YouTubers RUINED Battlefield?! | Level With Me Ep. 29
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- On this week's episode, @LevelCapGaming and @Matimi0 discuss Gray Zone Warfare, UA-camrs ruining Battlefield, and much more!
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00:00:00 Intro: What makes our podcast so different
00:01:19 Levelcap played Gray Zone Warfare...
00:06:33 Squad 44
00:16:45 Helldivers 2 update
00:25:52 Battlefield
00:34:11 UA-camrs ruin Battlefield games
00:46:17 Battlefield 4 Remastered?
00:49:17 Star Citizen did a MAJOR test
00:52:31 Weird Overwatch 2 Promotions...
00:57:25 The Finals Season 2
01:03:30 What we've been watching and reading
01:17:15 Dusting off the Nintendo Switch...
01:19:33 Mat's weekly life advice
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Every time Dice makes a new Battlefield game, it's like the first time they've ever made one. They somehow forget everything and start totally from scratch with no memory of what works and what doesn't.
Majority of the OG devs BF2 - BF1 left the studio and formed new studio EMBARK that developed THE FINALS. So theres that why starting BFV till 2042 theres no passion around it. A lot of new faces in current DICE 😢
@@PRoGAmeRs97well, quality of them aside, games like BC2, BF3, BF4 were also broken for a long time. For BF4’s case maybe technically in a worse state than 2042’s launch.
This is so true and started with BF4 - I couldn't believe how bad that game was at launch and also revived every bug they fixed in BF3.
@@raidengoodman8754 on par, I think it was less laggy overall but the netcode and tick rate were worse.
@@surjectnah, I been playing BF since 42s original release. It was always present, but the most evident starting at 2142 where it had all the bugs we were living with and eventually got fixed in BF2
You have done 29 episodes of this podcast. This is the first one to ever appear in my sub box....
same
same
Yup, also same
Same for me as well.
Same for me. I really enjoy it actually but I didn’t even know it existed until a couple weeks ago.
Battlefield 4 was and still is a TOP 3 SHOOTER for me
Dice ruined their own game , because of greed. Focused on micro transactions
I think the bastardization of WWII is what really killed dice along with how after that they did the one thing you’re never supposed to do… attack your fan base.
@@Badhero4 eh not really, the trailer for BF5 was dumb and ignorant of their fanbase, but the gameplay was and still is solid. Servers have stayed popping and full even today..... unlike 2042's 💀
actually makes me curious what their server costs are for BF5 and BF1 since those still have plenty of players but no skin monetization
@@Ah_Shit_Here_We_Go_Againfirst impressions can have a massive impact. I (sadly) bought bf5 when it came out, so I know that the gameplay (other than revive animations, vehicle exit animations, and attrition) the game was solid.
And then 2042 came out and I’d happily take black female German soldiers over that granny in 2042
@@Ah_Shit_Here_We_Go_Againyeah the trailer was shit, but don't forget the hideous ttk changes they did.
In the end it's definitely a good bf game but it did suffer on multiple occasions during its lifespan.
Well when dice is listening to the people who own them then battlefield got ruined
EA chasing Fortnite money killed Battlefield.
I would love a BF 4 remaster
BF3 remastered would be better imo
Loving these podcasts, good banter keep em' comin'!
Dice ruined battlefield when they took a bigol dump over all of their fans when they complained about the bastardization take on WW2.
“Don’t like it, don’t buy it”
What the hell is wrong with these people.
Lvl and Mat thanks for all the bf videos, you guys didn’t ruin Battlefield… unless you pushed for the 5v5 mode.
Don't like it don't buy it is literally the most you can do.
EA doesn't care about reputation. Backlash never worked except when Disney was involved.
@@pacificgull7374 The one cool thing modern Disney did was kill lootboxes... But now we got fomo battlepasses. Games sucks.
There is one important aspect you are missing and it’s a big one. EA owns Dice and investors own EA. Dice is a little tiny piece of the puzzle and has no say on the overall decision making process of a games life. They are there to make a game that they are told to make and that’s it. Yes, they can use their own creativity, but EA holds the check book and can cut what they deem unprofitable and time consuming out at any time and without any notice. Investors want to earn a profit from they shares they own and EA has to make sure that they’re investors are collecting they’re earnings.
@@ChiBr33zy We must always do as our overlords say so we can continue to make the bread.
Battlefield was ruined when they catered to the casuals in Battlefield 1.
Even in the current state I don't think anybody can argue that SM and OCS in StarCitizen are load-screens. For example: You have control of your character the entire time, even when jumping through the JumpGate. You can still walk around or even (at this point) fire the guns of your ship. You can also see other players doing the same thing.
Basically, the JumpGates are simply there because they need something to transition you from one system to the next but as the tech works right now, the moment you enter the jump-gate you are on the other server (so the moment you enter in Stanton, you are on the Pyro Server)
When it comes to load-screens, those are client-side and they are already "eliminated" through Object-Container Streaming (OCS) which basically means the whole game is a load-screen because it constantly loads in whatever is needed next in the background. But as already said, you can still play without any problems during that.
What I would consider a load-screen are those transitions from Planet to Planet in the Jedi-Games. Even there, you can go around in the ship while it travels BUT you also always have those cutscenes at start and end which are build to load in assets I am pretty sure since there are still pop-ins sometimes during those.
Also, the statement of 3.23 being another games worth of content: While I don't quite agree, on the other had it kind of is when you think about it. Lots of the features (especially quality of life) are basically Squadron 42 Features, so features from another game
I definitely think UA-cam influencers play a big part in swaying people opinions. Some people are easily influenced and will go with the flow instead of going across the grain.
Continuing to use someone up with story that include Battlefield and UA-cam? Another way to market portions of the[ ]system to deal with…
Think before UA-cam existed and all we had was our own opinions and ours friends opinions…we didn’t have all of the extra input into our own decision making process. Sometimes these extra inputs are beneficial and other times they aren’t. When a game doesn’t do something right, the UA-cam influencers can pick up on it on their own or hear about another influencer chatting about it so it kinda snowballs into the influencers knowledge. This can highlight the one thing that wasn’t right and make it into something much bigger than ever. With out the influencers input, must likely your standard gamers wouldn’t have picked up on it.
There is only one loading screen in Star Citizen and it appears when the game starts, at which point the level is instantiated and the main menu is rendered. After that everything is just streamed into this same level without re-instantiating a new one. CIG calls this Megamap. This is the reason why there were bugs where the character could get drunk in the persistent universe and continue to be drunk when switching to the menu and other game modes. They had simply forgotten to reset the player's status correctly.
I just want the cheating problem to be dealt with. Last night I moved through several servers of BFV, due to cheaters that would kill the whole lobby. Not with an ingame gun, just everyone dies in action suddenly.
2 new maps aged like fine shit.
Levelcap and Matimoo glad to see you guys
Levelcap and Mat, I know y’all secretly hate 2042. It’s okay, I do too 😊. I want a gritty battlefield again, 2042 is just silly fortnite meets cod.
In Brisbane, Queensland, Australia we get on average 282 days of sunshine a year. Brisbane averages 11 hours of sunshine a day over the year.
I remember BF4 being broken at launch to the point I didn't play for months. I feel like the community always has to hate the latest battlefield. Yeah some are worse than others but we do this cycle every single game.
BF4 became one of the best fps of the 2010s tho.. 2042 is still tweaking core mechanics like recoil.
BF4 problem was bugs
Not the game in itself
@@alicatdotcomyeah that’s the point I’m making. It was 10 years ago so we forget how broken it was and became a masterpiece
Out of curiosity, were you on ps3 or ps4? I skipped the ps3 version and just waited the couple extra weeks for the ps4 version. It would bluescreen occasionally after a match ended but it really didn't seem as bad, to me, as it was being made out to be online. But I only experienced one version of the game.
BF4 was completely broken the first 1-2 years and only became good after CTE. So many people left BF for Arma and Squad or just went back to BF3 like me.
I think starting from scratch each and every goddamn game is the reason why Battlefield has been on the decline. For every step forward the franchise takes, it takes one or two steps back.
It's just kinda exhausting. BF1 was fun enough, but it didn't really feel like a sequel to BF4 with the stripped back gunplay and gadgets. Obviously that had to happen to accomodate the WWI setting, but it was still odd feeling like there was a lot less to do in a sequel.
Then BFV comes around, with supposedly better gameplay more akin to BF4, but decided to take their dumbass alternate history approach to WWII that felt completely at odds with the atmosphere that BF1 did so well (yes I know neither game is particularly historically accurate).
And here we are now with 2042. Even after maybe 30 hours of play time, I still forget that I can't climb over walls like you could in BF1. I get annoyed that I can't really tell how damaged a tank is when I hit it with a rocket.
After 10 years, I still don't feel like we got a sequel to BF4. Or a sequel to BF1. Or BFV. Just different games each time.
I think youtubers helped in the fall of Battlefield for sure. Maybe the developers don't listen to them directly, but they can influence the opinion of the masses.
A big part of the problem is that a youtubers livelihood is tied to people watching their streams/videos. If you weren't any good at the game, people wouldn't be as interested and fewer people would watch. So youtubers cant have an objective opinion on how a game should play, as they are inclined to want what is best for them, want what best suits their play style. One major point is teamwork. In games that promote teamwork over solo play, it is hard to show you are good at a game when your success hinges on the skill of your teammates, instead its more important to top out the leader board and show fast paced exciting gameplay.
Battlefield 5 is a huge example. In the early Beta playtests, players had a much smaller combat load, no health packs, and the other players were harder to see. This promoted having a well rounded squad. A Medic for bandages, Support for ammo, Sniper to spot targets, and the rifleman for killing. I had SO MUCH FUN in those early betas as fewer people on my team would run out and try to rambo the whole enemy team. I specifically remember Levelcap suddenly not doing awesome in his BF5 videos, because the game was not suited to his play style. He then complained about each and every one of those aspects of BF5, and each one changed. BF5 fundamentally changed for the worse (IMO) based on Levelcaps suggestions. Sure maybe DICE didnt listen to him specifically, but they made the changes he wanted.
Many youtubers seem to value quick aiming and recoil control over tactical play, and its because they are monetarily motivated to do so. That stuff looks good in videos. How many youtubers get as big as levelcap while their primary game is Squad?
I remember that moment in bf4 with the flirs and smokes. I mowed down a lot of people with a flir attached to m249 while smoke was around. It was crazy fun
Dawn breaker had good amount of cover. Goldmud railway has the less cover due to large area
It took me about 40 - 50 hours to finish the season 1 battlepass of The Finals. I got done with it by the end of December, within a month.
The big EXP gains achievable through dailies and weeklies, and less through normal play. They doubled the EXP gains for everything (iirc) mid season, but I feel like that still wasn't quite enough.
And as stupid as it may sound, a common complaint on the subreddit was that the battlepass was way too easy to finish.
So while I agree that it had some issues, I'd say it was far from being unfair. Never before have I finished a battlepass so quickly.
Helldivers is the most fun I've had in a multiplayer game since mw2 cod days. I get off work and log in to see several friends online and I can join a squad. It's just nice to have connections like that again.
Nice to see both of ya, I actually went and watched Squad up again from the good old days....you should have Jack and Xfactor on for some stories.
You’re both awesome, been a fan since I was just a kid in high school during the bf3 days
No I don't want a BF4 remaster you guys are spot on about the maps being mostly shite ... BF3 however..... :)
Thankyou for mentioning it might not be the testers fault - they usually do flag everything but don't get to make an important call on stuff like that!
Ah man wish this were recorded just a day later. Want to know your guy’s thoughts on the cut stadium part of Hourglass being repackaged and marketed as a “new” map out of the 2 we’re getting lol
Now I sort of wish I'd been around for the live recording of this one. Lemme find my crowbar so I can thwak Mat upside the head. No, the Star Citizen jump gate was *NOT* a loading screen. If you were in a multi-crew ship, you could get out of your seat and move around in said ship. It was live, in-game the entire time. There was no "please wait..." or any such thing. The ship was on autopilot, but you weren't locked in your seat. Which means: not a loading screen.
Never mind me though, I'm not Evocati and didn't test it Friday and Sunday. Nah. ;-)
There is one game called Lake that you play as a postwoman. Also Death Stranding...
It's strange to think that most of the current DICE devs didn't even work on Bf1, and the one who did are the new "veteran" devs
We need Level, Mat, and Jack playing Helldivers 2! It would heal the world and stop all wars.
I've always said that devs can make a really good FPS coop game if they step away from the meta such as BR and the played out PVP multiplayer. Players want something different to play.
House Atreides is a Greek name. All descendants from Atreus, I think
Is matimio only active on this pod now?
Hmm didn’t realize LevelCap wasn’t a mil sim guy.
And what does he mean he’s “a dev” now? What studio is he working for?
100% Keep on keeping on !
Who's gonna tell them bf isn't releasing all of the content at once? Who's gonna tell them bf is releasing 1 new map and 1 "new" map. The "new map is the rework of hour glass stadium! The new season is 2 parts! There drip feeding the content after like 7 months of no content at all
Bf1 and bf5 are the only two batt fields I’ve liked. Ive tried all the others but those are the only two that stuck with me… they were a perfect mix of casual and serious gameplay.
I liked the suppression system in BF3 and was a great way to make MGs actually useful in the meta. MGs should be able to lock down a field of fire. too often people just use them like an assault rifle. if u are getting suppressed by an MG u should use tools and repositioning to deal with it. they should also use the old bf3 bipod system, yeah it was jank af but u knew when it worked vs bf2042 system
GameGuard is a kernel-level / administrator-priviledge anti-cheat. HELLDIVERS 2 is a co-op/PvE game, why do we even need Anti-Cheat?
That intro took me out, good job on the self-awareness :'D
Thanks guys
When done well Live Service is a live service, like Helldivers 2. But most Live Service in games is actually more like a live exploitation.
Helldivers 2 is incredible mid tho
Smoke and thermal optics is the worst meta across any game. Apex Legends had to remove the thermal optic from SMGS recently to get rid of that meta. Was not fun to watch at high level play
Games like squad. hell let loose, post are slow as hell , in Sims the action is low unless the whole other team keeps spawning/dieing at a objective. I also cannot see the enemies most of the time, need better gun scopes.
Those that defended Battlefield V destroyed the franchise, and those were the players.
i blame the hardline haters. game hasnt felt like battlefield since hardline. i would love another bf4 reskin lol
Bf5 actually had a lot of good things about it. Marketing and typical AAA dev hell was 5's issue. So blaming people who liked a game is kinda sus
@@Robert-rm9dg found the bf1 fan
Bullshit! The entire player base was against that game before it even came out.
BFV was actually a fun BF game if you take away the live service woes and the TTK fiasco. I loved it and I’ve been playing BF longer than every single one of you commenting in here.
bro i played delta force before battlefield was even a thing@@user-dj9iu2et3r
DICE definitely ruined their own game.
Battlefield was on the top around battlefield 1, it had completely surpassed cod for me and I was only playing battlefield. But then battlefield V just didn’t click with me. It felt like a step back graphically and gameplay wise. I hated the gun leveling system, and the maps felt less detailed than battlefield 1 and overall the game felt less cohesive and finished. Same with 2042 but I feel like they have fixed it a lot and the game isn’t as bad as it was on launch
If your gonna remaster a Battlefield game it could only be BF3 or BC2
I blame Squad Up and you two directly for explosives being nerfed to the point of throwing rocks! 😂😂
Levelcap said the smoke in helldivers 2 was dumb! 😡
It kinda crushes me to have so little faith that the next battlefield will be any good.. To me, it doesn't feel like YTers are to blame. They can say whatever they want, they aren't the ones who make the final decisions. Reading any comment section about any BF game, the community is kind of all over the place. It's up to those in charge to sort through the noise and find the happy middle ground.
If you enjoy 2042, good for you. The daily player count numbers indicate to me that majority of people would rather play the 6 year old BF or the 8 year old BF.
I just hope the next Battlefield is more generous with the vehicle respawn rate and single vehicle type limit. Spam clicking the vehicle select screen for 5 min sucks. Especially when some lame tornado can toss your vehicle off the map the moment you spawn in.
But then we have the almost instant vehicle spawns again. No point in taking out a tank that will just be there again 2 minutes later
29:00 little did they know it is a rework lol
43:30 somebody stop this man, he's a menace
I love the background art who's the artist?
don't know why this was such a grind for season 1 the finals.. i only did the weekly and dailys and got to 100 in one month and 1week... wwwaaay faster than apex bp
Ap? .45a[nother ]c[cases ]p[rojectile].
Now think of whats marketed as the 7.62 nato.
Think of whats marketed to slaves as, is a submachine gun now.
Dice and EA ruined Battlefield.
ep 29? first time Im seeing this
Dice ruined BF by turning it into call of battlefield the skin seller.
Console could use a BF4 Remaster
loot box's did it for me i started on pc and have played all of them game is great but opening box's push me away
I WANT MATIMIO LEVELCAP HELLDIVERS!!!!! NOW!!!!
BFV did visual recoil beautifully. But, when you make your game rely almost entirely on random bullet deviation, you cant add visual recoil 2.5 years later that's just stupid.
100% visual recoil is better than RBD, but should be implemented immediately.
I think that a lot of games get ruined by Publishers/Devs pandering to Pro gamers, not necessarily Content Creators.
You see it with COD and Apex a lot, they aren’t fixing the issues that have been in the game for years, they’re not fixing gameplay issues/improvement/QOL that 99% of the player base would want, but are instead pushing for Pro Players & Content Creator wants/needs.
I get it, I do, they want these people to keep playing the game as it’s essentially free advertising, but given the billions of dollars these companies make they should really now focus purely on fixing problems instead of chasing the next billion
LC has not tried Helldivers 2? Really testing my ability to not unsubscribe.
Would rather take a remaster at this point DICE are clueless now
I like how down you earth you both seem. Very “level” headed
Resume @23:00
Two pasty men enter, only one pasty man leaves.
Even if they just improve battlefield 2 and and add more content to it it will be popular atleast in my opinion
The only BF influencers I watch are either you, if you consider yourself one; and Gravity - but that's majorly for retrospectives/map coverage.
I don't know how do you win gamers back, but what I believe would be an immediate success and industry shifting move - Battlefield VR.
Don't make a new game, just port old one. Imagine BFBC or BF3, running on todays standalone VR. This is what VR needs! Big name, huge immersion, insane replayability.
That is absolutetly doable, and name like Battlefield would turns heads for every gamer who has ever played BF religiously. You can't ever get Next-Gen with whatever Nvidia puts out while being stuck to a flat screen. BF 2D is bound to be tons of misses cause you can't really innovate, we have hit a peak, just like with smartphones.
The finals needs to follow rocket league’s rocket pass system
I like to keep regular
BF3 maps were so much better than BF4 maps and had more/better destruction
The "it is what it is" mentality has ruined it. It is ok to not accept bad things.
100% agree with this 😂
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UA-camrs (mostly Enders) are the only reason Battlefield even has any relevance. All these "creators" on the EA creators club are bootlickers who really dont give a damn about the games.
Who tf watches BF content for “high skill gameplay” like Enders? That is NOT what the BF franchise represents, in my mind.
Jack’s casual live commentary videos are much more in the spirit of BF IMO
No, but Dice sure did
Streamers are the worst. Games companies think that just because they have big mouths and lots of sycophants, they know a damn thing about game design.
Optimising for people who play 8 hours a day is a sure-fire way to ruin your game for the majority of the player base.
i would still play the f..k out of bf3 if they would get the hackers out.
Go back to 64 players, go back to 3rd party rental servers, go back to premium (live service sucks), remove aim assist (go play console if you want soft aimbot) bring back customization like reticle, crosshair, hud, hitmarker colors/sizes/opacity
Yupp.. my only issue with going premium was how dead the maps became because people wouldn't buy the DLC
What is up with Matimi0? I used to religiously watch his channel before he changed to more of a Rainbow6 channel but what do you get up to now @Matimi0? I dropped by a few weeks ago just to see what he's been up to and there's been no vids for a year? But still clearly he's making content in the gaming sphere? Is he only streaming now?
Yeah, I think he's mostly a streamer now days. Like RivalXFactor (That's a name I haven't thought of in many years.)
Yes westie did
😂 DICE definitely ruined BF. Hopefully 2025 they'll be back on track.
Overmonitized. So many ads every 3 minutes I got my first cancer treatment scheduled.
UA-camrs were absolutely instrumental in the downfall of the battlefield franchise. Not directly but indirectly by not challenging any of the horrible ideas the devs came up with. I remember all the big BF UA-camrs shilling the GARABGE attrition system in BFV and none of them even made a peep about the hero shooter system in 2042. I understand that there's lots of incentives to be flown out to those big events so I don't fault them for wanting to stay in the devs good graces, but it clearly sacrifices their integrity and in the long run the integrity of the whole game
Nah, 5/2042 was shit before any UA-camr got their hands on it.
23:00 yep lol
A lot of people are going to probably disagree with me on this but I think game companies / devs need to stop listening to people and just make games. Make games they think are good. Make games they think are fun. If there are obvious issues with the game. Things that need to be balanced or changed for the sake of the game state, make them. No game is going to come out perfect. Bugs, balance issues, etc, will ALWAYS be found after launch.
cheaters, crosplay, and bad input from players with multiple accounts mostly on the PC side of gaming. UA-camrs are not responsible. its the groups with multiple accounts cheating using mostly PC computers
i agree speed runs rek games
I was sick of youtubers trying to convince their viewers to play BF2042. The game sucks, I want no part of it. EA ruined a great franchise.
I thought EA/DICE ruined BF.
Naja bei BF5 haben viele UA-camr das Game in den Himmel gelobt.
Hätte man wirklich Kritik äußern wollen hätten sie auch hingesehen.
Also kann man sagen das der Video Titel stimmt auch wenn das manche nicht wahr haben wollen.
enough the names PLEAS , other wise I may be click poopo kick sytew
I blame youtubers for pretending BF1 and V were good games. You're not refered to as influencers for no reason. Devs def don't shy away from putting streamers' skins in games....
To the UA-camr point, some creators just lose perspective of an average player. Destiny 2 for example, I personally feel the pricing is egregious and haven’t given them a dollar since first season of witch queen. UA-camrs I’ve seen will echo this point. The same people will then turn around and buy the $80 version of said dlc, and $40 in cosmetics. So that whole price rant you put on UA-cam was just to gain favor or seem relatable?