Yeah I remember when those Oneida Eagles (prob their first model) came out in Australia, it had the attention of everyone at the club. But you are so right about the "latest and greatest" model thing LOL when it comes to cam bows. Th bicycle can only be reinvented so much.
The great thing about the Oneida besides the draw cycle is that I can totally disassemble it without a press. I can make my own strings and replace it with nothing more than 2 pvc pipes.
Yea you could rebuild it in the bush in short order.....unlike a wheel bow where you have to limp to the pro shop stand in line for parts or the bow press !
Eggs ackly. I have watched the Korean teams do those sky draws in all the international competitions. I'm always amazed that they let 'em do that. @@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610
This comparison is not at all fair. you should be doing grains per pound and you also have to take into account that lever action compounds are built for heavy arrows, and that's where they shine most as they retain much greater efficiency around 10GPP. Redo the video with some 700gr arrows and see what the results are, thats what I want to see. None of my speed bows can shoot my 750gr arrows as fast and as flat as my Oneida Phoenix or RPM Nitro XX.
@DAVE the Phoenix is nicer but it's not faster or nearly $600 nicer than the Nitro XX. They're essentially the same thing ugh some improvements to the timing on the Nitro XX. If it matters, I sold my Phoenix and kept my Nitro XX Mag XL since I made this comment.
That is just myth that lever bows shoot heavy arrows faster... Basicly how would they be faster with heavy arrows? There are no magic to change the laws of physics. I tested my RPM Nitro XX against my Mathews Q2XL: in their current setup they are both in the same speed with light arrows (225 fps with 400 grains), when I switched to heavy arrows (570 grains, for the Nitro it's 10,36GPP, for the Mathews it's 9,5GPP) it dropped the same (200 fps).
As you go up in arrow weight lever bow’s lose less fps than typical compound bows and lever bows sound goes way down with heavier arrows, in other words they don’t like almost being dry fired
Question from a newbie currently shooting bow recurve and compound: When I shoot a lever bow (with finger tab), should I anchor like I shoot a recurve?
Your draw length seems a bit too long and when you draw back you want to roll your shoulder back with the bow straight infront of you and the reason I said about your draw length is you want your left arm slightly bent out instead of your arm fully straight with the D loop anchored in the corner of your mouth which it looked like you were pretty spot on with that , thankyou for posting the video mate
The biggest difference I see here.......no puns intended.......is the sound. As a hunting bow, particularly for deer, the Oneida is way too loud. I would really like to see this same match up on targets, being a hunter, and a target shooter. Not one or two arrows, though. Maybe 20 or 30 arrows at maybe 20 and 40 meters. My money might be on the Oneida. So smooth!
The big difference is you can let off an Oneida in any part of the draw. Your taking a fishing bow up against a hunting bow. My old Oneida still pushes a field tip through a 5" diameter tree at 200 feet. Huge difference in the Oneida between fiberglass, aluminum, and carbon arrows. The aluminum arrows I can track with eye like a muzzle loader bullet. The carbon are way faster. Even on half draw an Oneida does not disappoint. My arrow rest is notched for fletchings to pass through too.
You need to either turn your poundage down or work on your draw form. You shouldn’t be pointing in the trees and pulling down at an angle. That’s just poor mechanics and usually the result of someone pulling back way too much weight.
The biggest difference for me is that you can shoot the lever bow with your fingers and not need a release.
Yeah I remember when those Oneida Eagles (prob their first model) came out in Australia, it had the attention of everyone at the club. But you are so right about the "latest and greatest" model thing LOL when it comes to cam bows. Th bicycle can only be reinvented so much.
The great thing about the Oneida besides the draw cycle is that I can totally disassemble it without a press. I can make my own strings and replace it with nothing more than 2 pvc pipes.
I agrees, they are so sweet and unique. I admire there design and the fact that there bow has been basically the same since the mid 80's
Yea you could rebuild it in the bush in short order.....unlike a wheel bow where you have to limp to the pro shop stand in line for parts or the bow press !
Thank you your video was very informative. It was easy to comprehend.
sorry about the volume, not sure what happened. This is the only video i have gotten low volume comments.
Your draw is very scary. Almost asking for an long traveling missfire. 🏹🤠👍
my thoughts exactly
Eggs ackly. I have watched the Korean teams do those sky draws in all the international competitions. I'm always amazed that they let 'em do that. @@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610
And also asking for an injured shoulder. 😬
Great review, thanks
This comparison is not at all fair. you should be doing grains per pound and you also have to take into account that lever action compounds are built for heavy arrows, and that's where they shine most as they retain much greater efficiency around 10GPP. Redo the video with some 700gr arrows and see what the results are, thats what I want to see. None of my speed bows can shoot my 750gr arrows as fast and as flat as my Oneida Phoenix or RPM Nitro XX.
@DAVE the Phoenix is nicer but it's not faster or nearly $600 nicer than the Nitro XX. They're essentially the same thing ugh some improvements to the timing on the Nitro XX.
If it matters, I sold my Phoenix and kept my Nitro XX Mag XL since I made this comment.
That is just myth that lever bows shoot heavy arrows faster...
Basicly how would they be faster with heavy arrows? There are no magic to change the laws of physics.
I tested my RPM Nitro XX against my Mathews Q2XL: in their current setup they are both in the same speed with light arrows (225 fps with 400 grains), when I switched to heavy arrows (570 grains, for the Nitro it's 10,36GPP, for the Mathews it's 9,5GPP) it dropped the same (200 fps).
We need to get you a decibel measuring system.
As you go up in arrow weight lever bow’s lose less fps than typical compound bows and lever bows sound goes way down with heavier arrows, in other words they don’t like almost being dry fired
Why do lever bows lose less fps ?
@@paradox_1729 more efficient with heavy arrows
@@OneidaKestrel1 what difference would it make shooting a lighter less stiff arrow compared to a harder heavier one?
So theoretically you could build a lever "longbow" to launch warbow weight arrows(like 1200 grains or so") at higher speeds, maybe?
Question from a newbie currently shooting bow recurve and compound: When I shoot a lever bow (with finger tab), should I anchor like I shoot a recurve?
yes
Yes but compound bows have back wall, so not as strictly as a recurve bow
Oneida looks like the weapon of a Klingon warrior
It is the same bow that is used by the Green Arrow in the TV show which makes it cooler imo lol
I’m new at archery and trying to learn but aren’t you supposed to pull back rather than down?
Straight back parallel to the ground
volume
Easy to assemble.
Your draw length seems a bit too long and when you draw back you want to roll your shoulder back with the bow straight infront of you and the reason I said about your draw length is you want your left arm slightly bent out instead of your arm fully straight with the D loop anchored in the corner of your mouth which it looked like you were pretty spot on with that , thankyou for posting the video mate
Thank You
@@randomreviews7574 have you been out hunting with the bow mate ?
@@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063 yes, but limited. Its always fun to take an oneida out when everyone else has a traditional compound bow.
The biggest difference I see here.......no puns intended.......is the sound. As a hunting bow, particularly for deer, the Oneida is way too loud. I would really like to see this same match up on targets, being a hunter, and a target shooter. Not one or two arrows, though. Maybe 20 or 30 arrows at maybe 20 and 40 meters. My money might be on the Oneida. So smooth!
Great idea, thank you for the suggestion. Stay tuned
The big difference is you can let off an Oneida in any part of the draw. Your taking a fishing bow up against a hunting bow. My old Oneida still pushes a field tip through a 5" diameter tree at 200 feet. Huge difference in the Oneida between fiberglass, aluminum, and carbon arrows. The aluminum arrows I can track with eye like a muzzle loader bullet. The carbon are way faster. Even on half draw an Oneida does not disappoint. My arrow rest is notched for fletchings to pass through too.
Been deer hunting with Oneida bows since the mid 1980s. Don't tell my bow it is a "fishing bow"
Oneida Osprey is for fishing. The Phoenix for hunting...
Oneida👌
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Yes!!
You need to either turn your poundage down or work on your draw form. You shouldn’t be pointing in the trees and pulling down at an angle. That’s just poor mechanics and usually the result of someone pulling back way too much weight.
I agree. And the speed and force these new bows shoot at lower pound pull... Why wouldn't you shoot lower
I have you at full volume and I could not hear you well enough to watch the video. Maybe get a microphone for your videos.
Can't heard you very much
Youve got mail?
Thanks for watching!
Can’t hear you.
Not sure how that happened
Oops shoots👍👍👍👍