It warms my heart so profoundly to see a petty tyrant being put in his place. How dare they assume that because they are bored they can order ordinary people around on public property.
@@tentaklaus9382 did you watch a Completely Different video ? he Had PUBLIC ACCESS under the criminal justice act … but that doesn’t mean he is on Public Land & therefore doesn’t have the Rights associated with Actual Public land … so he Had No Argument , I’m Glad he Never caved in & surrendered his identity though .
It denotes where MOD property starts and public property ends….not there as a deterrent….that’s what the armed police are for….you’re welcome! Also….it can’t be “entrapment” as there are plenty of signs informing the public….it’s just that this waste of space can’t read them!
That is why he used the word, "asking". There is a subtle difference and they know that the authority of the uniform will get many to submit even though they have no legal power to force people to supply that information. It was amusing that the Police themselves were not keen on supplying their own names.
@Brian Mooney , and what has to be happening for personal information to be demanded under S.50, anti-social behaviour is the answer. If no anti-social behaviour is happening then the Police have no legal right to demand that information. If your argument is that Police demand personal information knowing that that demand is in itself unlawful, then that should result in them either being dismissed or paying compensation personally. But we all know that the filth are protected by their superiors and the Courts. .... In any case you seen to be confusing what i wrote with what was written by Graham.
@Brian Mooney section 50 can only be used if someone is committing anti social behaviour. Anti social behaviour has the same definition of section 5 public order, using threatening or abusive words or behaviour. Nothing Matt did could come anywhere near the definition of section 5 public order.
The whole entrance the base was open to public, scores of cars, bikes, pedestrians - flipping roundabout FFS directly outside the gate. All of them are potential risks, god knows how many dash cams. Not very secures is it?
The red line means danger. Oops thought I was singing Billy ocean red lights and got the words mixed up. It's just a base line that makes it crown land. Unauthorised use would be loitering and sitting having a drink on the grass or kerb side. Unauthorised wouldn't mean a person walking along the area for a purpose of taking pictures, travelling to a shop inside the red zone and there is also pubs MOT centre which is public. The line is a buffer zone. Not one thing would happen to you if they arrest you. Actually they wouldn't arrest you even when he asked. Because they know what he did was not illegal.
Correct. It would appear that the sign indicates that the wooded area is off limits, not the footpath or roadway. And what on earth does a line on the ground mean. If they want to keep people out they should have a guardhouse there.
your - I Don't think it's that brave. They had no legal power to arrest and Matt would be in line for compensation if they arrested him. Matt knows that....so do the cops
Beautifully brutal introduction that one Mat and they thoroughly earned it too. You kept your guard up nicely -like your reply to 'we won't take it any further'-he wasn't expecting you to challenge it!
@Brian Mooney you could call it agrivated trespass, but only if you were being a softy, there is nothing to see at the gate and police were causing more of a fuss then he was, clever cops observe covertly gather evidence and make a determination on "evidence" others just like security guards act like these and assert their authority just to say I'm the boss, it's my ball. Official secrets? Really at the gate? With him on cctv? Just comply because we want you too. If those pictures or video comprimise security that's worrying
@Brian Mooney That's terrific I didn't know you were a smart ass, but I know far to many police who don't know the laws and are only too happy to break them to make members of the public, "do as they are told"
@@MarriedToTheKGB I’m absolutely top tip thank you for asking good to see you are ok 👌🏻 starblaster hasn’t said if they are ok though 🤷🏻♂️ I’m getting worried now 😟
Excellent stuff, Matt. Great to see these halfwits put in their place. I’m absolutely loving the way you no longer take their shit and stand your ground. You took the wind right out of their nasty authoritarian sails and allowed them to expose themselves for the dreadful fantasist creeps they clearly are. Carrying out photography? No, just taking pictures.
I was shown the boundary and agreed, he still got put in his place for being a aggressive prick. Get some good signage, maybe fences up if it is that big of a deal, you would just assume they are lying like most coppers do otherwise.
@@mat12128 You got your arse handed to you lad! You were on MOD property but because you’re so thick , you couldn’t read simple signs….you got it wrong on this occasion and rather embarrassed yourself….but all the other wasters on here won’t see that….get a real job and stop wasting people’s time.
Who is that sign aimed at, people walking from the middle of the road, over the barrier and into the trees?! Not surprised you missed it Mat, even the copper agreed it wasn't easy to see! 🤦
Since when has a public road been classified? If our national security is down to these guys then its a good job we have seen lately how incompetent Russia really is or we would be in trouble.
It isn't a public road though is it? It's a private road, MOD property, that gives people with a legitimate reason to use it. Its not a public right of way. He showed Matt the sign and line and Matt accepted it
@@yorkshirewanderer6176 It makes it "not" public though. And if you own the road you can do what you want with it. Gotta laugh when you say Russia are incompetent...😂🤣😂. They're doing rather better than "we" and the yanks did in A'stan.... Take with a pinch of salt what the telly news says.
@@leathleyg5995 If you think that a road whether private or public that is visible to all from what is definitely a public place can be classified then you are as thick as those officers.
According to gov . UK , that red line is a "stop line" for the vehicles or " police control" whatever that means. Highway code says the same. And it looks like that property sign is for the grassy area with the bushes.
Oh My God Matt, you crossed THE RED LINE!! THE OFFICIAL SECRETS ACT!! HELP!! With what is going on in the World right now, these guys need to get a grip!! A man taking a few pictures of a Naval base - Their first approach was all wrong the way it was handled so good you stood your ground! KEEP FILMING! Stay Safe! - PINAC!
What about all the vehicle's that are constantly driving in and out of their precious naval base with dashcams recording!? It's a shame they don't put this much effort into fighting real crime! They had every right to ask you what you was doing but that's where the conversation should of stopped! Keep up the great work auditing.
That's definitely a bit of an odd one. There appeared to be lots of "unauthorised" traffic. Something doesn't quite add up. It looked like a Public Highway & the sign wasn't obvious. Walking to the Perimeter helped to defuse the situation but their initial contact was hostile. You did well to turn it around. Cracking Audit there Matt 👊👍.
Its a huge site, hundreds of acres and thousands of people working there. Its a private road, not a public ROW. Its not really odd at all. Its pretty much the same as driving into Sainsburys car park, or your local shopping centre. There's lots of private roads about, its not always obvious.
Its the law.... And they're supposed to be kept up to date... But..... The DM should show if the entrance is a RoW...or not. But they don't usually show property boundaries in and detail. The LR is the place to go for that..
I'm a bit puzzled by the sign. It makes no reference to an unmarked line on the road. Why would a pedestrian know what a line meant? Why would anyone who doesn't work there? It's a fukkin line, that's all. Means bugger all, unless it's purpose is stated. As for the sign, it is totally disassociated from the line, and most importantly for me, such signs generally mean that it applies to the area behind it, not in front of it or to the side. It has no authoritative purpose whatsoever. To me, it simply states 'keep out of the trees'. Btw, you could have scored with the open goal that is dash cams. Would love to hear why they are an exception. "You're obviously no threat", but still want your details. Pricks. Sorry, Matt, gave up listening to their repetitive pish at this point.
Not really clearly marked, one tiny sign on the other side of the road from where he come from, if you knew where you were going prior that is easily missed because most people look ahead at the corner of the bend not over the road when not crossing
@@Zeus-kj7nn Not well enough though, just because theres a line painted across could be anything from roadworks to grafiti without being properly signed in as is the case here (one sign, not in a location hinting where the sign would mean the road, and being a non recognised no entry sign from any that is standardly used by the highways agency ie the red circle with red line through) I and probably many others would have assumed that sign meant don't try going on grass and jumping the fence with it being nowhere near the road and the angle it was at. all this points to either that place trying to effect a takeover of public land or they are incompetent at putting their no entry rules in a clear way.
Matt I've told you before IGNORANCE CAN BE EDUCATED, AND CRAZY CAN BE MEDICATED, BUT THERE'S NO CURE FOR STUPID. But you have my admiration and respect for persevering in what I think is a lost cause. Maybe you should give an award once a month for the most Fluent in BS 🍻
Well done Matt putting these bullies in there place! You can see how much they want the public not to know there rights! Id is like crack to these fools!
The courts must rule that asking for ID more than once by a cop is automatically considered a demand for ID. Or they'll stand there and say I'm asking 30 times. There must be a threshold ruled on how many times they can "ask".
How weird is that,....you can't cross their red line, but all those cars, push bikes & pedestrians can. Is it in their training to come out so hard and try to bully people, then if that doesn't work then start to act lawfully? Move the bloody gate to the red line if it's such a problem!
MOD property is behind the hedge to the right parallel with the sign not the red line, if it was the red line can they trespass all the motorists and pedestrians?
Matt have been watching your vids a couple o weeks now I'm just goin through the back catalogue , good vid's & I wish you well for your channel , keep em comin 👍
Quite a poor start - but credit where it’s due: they did adjust their approach , and it ended quite pleasantly. Personally; I can forgive the ‘welcome’ if they adjust after a conversation. They will have learned from the interaction too, so all good. Good audit, Matt! 👍
New law !!!! Police law. Everything in GB is private property Owned by police departments And photography is a crime That is what police officers taught us today
I'm at 4:08 and I can't understand why you told these cops to put up "No Photography" notices. If they did do that, the signs would have no legal effect, but such signs might deter other auditors and even impinge on the rights of the public. ,....Remember PINAC!, ffs
If its MOD property, is permissive access..-no legal right to even "BE" there....so no legal right to film. There's more than enough auditors in the UK trying to stand up for rights they don't actually have...
@@leathleyg5995 - Yep, I accept you're right - I posted before the end of vid. I'll try not to do that again. I had too much faith in the auditor, cos normally he's more careful than that!
The question I always ask myself after watching video's like these, is why do we have the security threat in the first place? Who is responsible for the state of the UK security?
If it’s that sensitive or secret……why not put a controlled gate at the demarcation point to avoid this situation happening. That might save some MoD Police time.
13:30 So security and police think that the use of a camera is a huge great security risk. Until they take Google to court for the photos available on Streetmap then I'll call his statements absolute bullshit and extreme gaslighting and just pure intimidation.
I absolutely hate this profession. They haven't got a clue A pub fight and they wouldn't turn up. A burglary, not to be seen. Post meme and 3 turn up - hated by the majority.
You are spot on, MOD plod definitely wouldn't be called on to attend a fight on a civilian site because they are employed to secure MILITARY sites. The clue is in the name ffs...................
@Brian Mooney I 100% wouldn't call them. I would call an ambulance for the idiot who broke into my house. The chances of the Police turning up are slim to none. You keep your faith in the plebs in blue. I'll keep the faith in my ability to deal with intruders myself.
@@simplymatty Whoo how brave you are! I am no Police fan boy matt but I am able to use discernment and good judgement. Talk to me like that again and we'll have to meet up you wanker
Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 19 "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." So showing the finger, even swearing, is a form of expression, and therefore police can do nothing, you know, seeing as these tyrants swear an oath to "uphold fundemental human rights". But not using threats, as that is actually against the law. And photogrphing/videoing in public is also laid out in the Met polices own website "Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel." Trying to use the terrorism crap is the biggest twist in their rules as they have to have evidence that you are involved in terrorism, not just because they "think" you are. And how many terrorists, who use covert measures to keep their identities hidden, are going to stand, in broad daylight, with face in full view of every CCTV, dashcam, cameraphone, and person who can give a description? Yeah, none. Bullying thugs abusing rights need to be disciplined, even sacked. At least he apologised, but he shouldn't need to if he hadn't gone in full on attitude problem
The Official Secrets Act 1989 applies to people (namely crown employees and government contractors), in certain circumstances. It does not apply to places. It might apply to people working in a certain place but not the place itself.
They parked on double yellow lines. Double yellow lines exist to stop people parking in certain places in public. There's no laws about how/where people park on private property, so there's not double yellow lines on private property. Even if that area is private property - the double yellow lines suggest it's public.
What a jumped up petty little man, thinks the uniform makes him a superhero. Well done Matt owned that insignificant little man. He could bore a glass eye to sleep. Them two are like Dad's army not a clue
Very unususal for MOD Plod,they are ususally far more professional, although he did apologise for being abrupt. However, well done for standing your ground with them. That sign, faces the wrong way and says nothing about restrictions on what you can or can't do. If they don;t want people going down that road, they should put a manned barrier there.
I would read that sign as i cant go on the grass (passed the sign thats sideways on to the path) they need to turn the sign 90 degrees so it follows the line.
It's open to the public as it has a public path so his argument doesn't add up as it doesn't say no entry and we fund that property so he is talking out his backside and they are trying to assert there so called authority.
@@leathleyg5995 he hasn't crossed any gate or barrier to get they so if it's open like that then he can what don't you get, why has it got a zebra crossing?
@@johnancill7397 John, you have been watching too many dumb auditors. There's no requirement in the UK for gates barriers fences, signs, or boundaries to be marked. A lot of auditors (not Matt...obviously) spout endless amounts of legal garbage. If they shout it often enough, then they start to think its true and so do their disciples...
@@leathleyg5995 what I'm referring to is written into law that's why auditors use it the police rely on the public's ignorance to use it but with the internet you can access these laws
@@johnancill7397 Are you serious.? Since when did auditors use law? Except to twist and make up their own. Sect 33 Public access Tax funded so we own it Needs barriers gates and signs Trespass is civil - nothing you can do I have an implied right. Its on street view so its public. And many many more nonsense rules that the auditing community have dreamed up
It warms my heart so profoundly to see a petty tyrant being put in his place. How dare they assume that because they are bored they can order ordinary people around on public property.
HE WASNT ON PUBLIC PROPERTY !!!
Jaysus !
@@DAZVADER74 Yes he was.
@@tentaklaus9382 did you watch a Completely Different video ?
he Had PUBLIC ACCESS under the criminal justice act … but that doesn’t mean he is on Public Land & therefore doesn’t have the Rights associated with Actual Public land … so he Had No Argument , I’m Glad he Never caved in & surrendered his identity though .
@@DAZVADER74 Yawn.
@@noelward8047 classic Reply from a FUK7ARD who Knows they’re in the Wrong ! 👏👏
Sticking a red line across the road wouldn’t discourage a terrorist. Why isn’t there security gates. It’s really entrapment.
It denotes where MOD property starts and public property ends….not there as a deterrent….that’s what the armed police are for….you’re welcome!
Also….it can’t be “entrapment” as there are plenty of signs informing the public….it’s just that this waste of space can’t read them!
"Carrying out photography"........He can't demand ID unless Mat is arrested. Even detained he can't.
That is why he used the word, "asking". There is a subtle difference and they know that the authority of the uniform will get many to submit even though they have no legal power to force people to supply that information. It was amusing that the Police themselves were not keen on supplying their own names.
@Brian Mooney , what anti-social behaviour was occurring that gave the Police the right to demand imformation under S.50 ?
@Brian Mooney , and what has to be happening for personal information to be demanded under S.50, anti-social behaviour is the answer. If no anti-social behaviour is happening then the Police have no legal right to demand that information. If your argument is that Police demand personal information knowing that that demand is in itself unlawful, then that should result in them either being dismissed or paying compensation personally. But we all know that the filth are protected by their superiors and the Courts. .... In any case you seen to be confusing what i wrote with what was written by Graham.
@Brian Mooney section 50 can only be used if someone is committing anti social behaviour. Anti social behaviour has the same definition of section 5 public order, using threatening or abusive words or behaviour. Nothing Matt did could come anywhere near the definition of section 5 public order.
The whole entrance the base was open to public, scores of cars, bikes, pedestrians - flipping roundabout FFS directly outside the gate. All of them are potential risks, god knows how many dash cams. Not very secures is it?
And a Google Streetview car too
The red line means danger. Oops thought I was singing Billy ocean red lights and got the words mixed up. It's just a base line that makes it crown land. Unauthorised use would be loitering and sitting having a drink on the grass or kerb side. Unauthorised wouldn't mean a person walking along the area for a purpose of taking pictures, travelling to a shop inside the red zone and there is also pubs MOT centre which is public. The line is a buffer zone. Not one thing would happen to you if they arrest you. Actually they wouldn't arrest you even when he asked. Because they know what he did was not illegal.
I seriously doubt that sign would stand up in court as "Adequate Warning".
Correct. It would appear that the sign indicates that the wooded area is off limits, not the footpath or roadway. And what on earth does a line on the ground mean. If they want to keep people out they should have a guardhouse there.
@@johnvienta7622 I usual find a Red line on my ar5e means I've been sat on the bog too long .
@@marklatimer7333 , I bet no-one crosses that line.
@@johnvienta7622 It's certainly enough to keep the Russians at bay .
@@marklatimer7333 , fair point. If the Germans had only thought about painting a red line on the Normandy beaches they would have won the war.
Love that your brave enough to ask them just to arrest you
your - I Don't think it's that brave. They had no legal power to arrest and Matt would be in line for compensation if they arrested him. Matt knows that....so do the cops
@@topcat1358 I'm also tempted to highlight YOUR as well. Annoys me to the max.
@@topcat1358 it’s just good to hear as you don’t hear many other auditors do it
@@aussiewatchman8112 - YOU'RE too touchy....It's only a small error. Try to keep a grip on YOUR temper and YOU'LL maybe enjoy YOUR life a bit more.
Has not stopped them in the past though TC....
Beautifully brutal introduction that one Mat and they thoroughly earned it too. You kept your guard up nicely -like your reply to 'we won't take it any further'-he wasn't expecting you to challenge it!
@Brian Mooney what Rubbish
@Brian Mooney I'm a professional Human Garbage Remover. You don't want me to do that. And I don't believe in Recycling Human Garbage.
I'm impressed, at no point did you call the bell-end FILTH, I certainly would have done.
And you would be within all right to do so because they acted exactly like that!
"I'm not being rude now" now you realise he knows his rights and can't be bullied by your badge
"I'm not being rude now" - So he admits he was being rude before.
Perfectly dealt with Matt.
I would have also liked you to ask them why they were parked on double yellows for a non emergency.
They were on MOD property….and how did they know it wasn’t an emergency?
Another great audit please keep up the great work reporting on police overstepping their authority and putting them right.
Graham is an asshole . I love it when the COPS put you in your place. I love cops who arrest scumbags like graham (the cop lover)
What bit did he put them right on ?
@Brian Mooney explain that statement please
@Brian Mooney you could call it agrivated trespass, but only if you were being a softy, there is nothing to see at the gate and police were causing more of a fuss then he was, clever cops observe covertly gather evidence and make a determination on "evidence" others just like security guards act like these and assert their authority just to say I'm the boss, it's my ball.
Official secrets? Really at the gate? With him on cctv? Just comply because we want you too.
If those pictures or video comprimise security that's worrying
@Brian Mooney That's terrific I didn't know you were a smart ass, but I know far to many police who don't know the laws and are only too happy to break them to make members of the public, "do as they are told"
His approach was absolutely disgusting
OK?
@@CommanderStarblaster ok? Weird af statement but ok!
@@CommanderStarblaster I'm ok, u ok?
@@iainburns4493 Just checking you're ok Mr Burns?
@@MarriedToTheKGB I’m absolutely top tip thank you for asking good to see you are ok 👌🏻 starblaster hasn’t said if they are ok though 🤷🏻♂️ I’m getting worried now 😟
" My brother went here in 1991." " And who was that? " " Ian". You won't get this level of logic when the Chinese take over!!!
Excellent stuff, Matt. Great to see these halfwits put in their place. I’m absolutely loving the way you no longer take their shit and stand your ground. You took the wind right out of their nasty authoritarian sails and allowed them to expose themselves for the dreadful fantasist creeps they clearly are. Carrying out photography? No, just taking pictures.
Did you watch ALL the video...?
Maybe you should...
I was shown the boundary and agreed, he still got put in his place for being a aggressive prick. Get some good signage, maybe fences up if it is that big of a deal, you would just assume they are lying like most coppers do otherwise.
@@mat12128 You got your arse handed to you lad! You were on MOD property but because you’re so thick , you couldn’t read simple signs….you got it wrong on this occasion and rather embarrassed yourself….but all the other wasters on here won’t see that….get a real job and stop wasting people’s time.
@@mat12128 i believe you got put in your place when you didn’t read the sign
Is this in Stasi Germany or the UK , another couple of love our uniform clowns 🤡
@Don't Shoot not much difference then with police murdering civilians , here's some history for you en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi
This is what auditing is all about, grat job Matt!
Great audit. Not taking their sh-t is sadly what must be done.
Matt in the wrong...yet again
carrying out photography...... wow, what a phrase !
Is it me or is that sign meaning on the land behind the sign. Yes they might have a property line but they have paths too.
I noticed a blue line, thugs!
Who is that sign aimed at, people walking from the middle of the road, over the barrier and into the trees?! Not surprised you missed it Mat, even the copper agreed it wasn't easy to see! 🤦
Mate it is ridiculous, have a look on google maps and see if you can notice it!
@@mat12128 I did, not a chance of seeing that unless you're 8' tall and have an extra pair of eyes in the side of your head!
the bald chap was out of his league and even the masked thing waffling on couldn't dig him out of the hole they had dug.
The police love saying 'this current climate' It means nothing.
Yes and my response to such nonsense would be : Are you making some sort of unfounded accusation ? ,.....Damned Tyrants !!
It's police speak for an imaginary threat. Arsholes
Since when has a public road been classified? If our national security is down to these guys then its a good job we have seen lately how incompetent Russia really is or we would be in trouble.
It isn't a public road though is it?
It's a private road, MOD property, that gives people with a legitimate reason to use it. Its not a public right of way.
He showed Matt the sign and line and Matt accepted it
@@leathleyg5995 That doesn't make it classified like the officer said at the start.
@@leathleyg5995 Step back a bit, your breath stinks of boot polish.
@@yorkshirewanderer6176 It makes it "not" public though. And if you own the road you can do what you want with it.
Gotta laugh when you say Russia are incompetent...😂🤣😂. They're doing rather better than "we" and the yanks did in A'stan....
Take with a pinch of salt what the telly news says.
@@leathleyg5995 If you think that a road whether private or public that is visible to all from what is definitely a public place can be classified then you are as thick as those officers.
Ive just looked on google maps you can clearly see more on the map
Yeah and the complete massive underground storage facility.
The Google car has been on a lot of private property. Its not proof of a public ROW.
The sign is too high and faced the wrong way for pedestrians to read.
@Brian Mooney lol speaking nonsense does not make you more credible.
According to gov . UK , that red line is a "stop line" for the vehicles or " police control" whatever that means. Highway code says the same. And it looks like that property sign is for the grassy area with the bushes.
Does it???
Well it certainly does apply to an arbitrary red line drawn across a PUBLIC thoroughfare.
@Brian Mooney Agreed. I usually enjoy Matts content but this was just silly and so are the vast majority of comments.
Doesn't apply. Typo.
im sure still public access up to the gate for visitors etc. So ask you to leave end of story. Keep it up Matt another great vid.
Oh My God Matt, you crossed THE RED LINE!! THE OFFICIAL SECRETS ACT!! HELP!! With what is going on in the World right now, these guys need to get a grip!! A man taking a few pictures of a Naval base - Their first approach was all wrong the way it was handled so good you stood your ground! KEEP FILMING! Stay Safe! - PINAC!
Can never be to safe in the CURRENT CLIMATE!
Great work, but they need clear signage
He changed his tune real fast when you showed him you know your right. He was far from polite initially and demanded ID.
This is BS, are you telling me that every person in every vehicle, on every motorcyle, every pushbike, have been authorised to be on that street!
The legal status of the entrance road is "permissive access" - no public ROW. So yes, technically, in legal terms, those using it have a permission.
Yes because you can only access via that road, there is no public through road
What about all the vehicle's that are constantly driving in and out of their precious naval base with dashcams recording!? It's a shame they don't put this much effort into fighting real crime! They had every right to ask you what you was doing but that's where the conversation should of stopped!
Keep up the great work auditing.
They aren't regular officers, as stated in the vid, they are MOD PLOD.
@Brian Mooney Your comment about them not getting involved in "real " crime?
Fucking hell, get back into hibernation you clod.
That's definitely a bit of an odd one. There appeared to be lots of "unauthorised" traffic. Something doesn't quite add up.
It looked like a Public Highway & the sign wasn't obvious.
Walking to the Perimeter helped to defuse the situation but their initial contact was hostile. You did well to turn it around.
Cracking Audit there Matt 👊👍.
Its a huge site, hundreds of acres and thousands of people working there. Its a private road, not a public ROW.
Its not really odd at all. Its pretty much the same as driving into Sainsburys car park, or your local shopping centre. There's lots of private roads about, its not always obvious.
All local authorities have to keep a definitive map
Its the law....
And they're supposed to be kept up to date...
But.....
The DM should show if the entrance is a RoW...or not. But they don't usually show property boundaries in and detail. The LR is the place to go for that..
I'm a bit puzzled by the sign. It makes no reference to an unmarked line on the road. Why would a pedestrian know what a line meant? Why would anyone who doesn't work there? It's a fukkin line, that's all. Means bugger all, unless it's purpose is stated. As for the sign, it is totally disassociated from the line, and most importantly for me, such signs generally mean that it applies to the area behind it, not in front of it or to the side. It has no authoritative purpose whatsoever. To me, it simply states 'keep out of the trees'.
Btw, you could have scored with the open goal that is dash cams. Would love to hear why they are an exception.
"You're obviously no threat", but still want your details. Pricks.
Sorry, Matt, gave up listening to their repetitive pish at this point.
@Brian Mooney It's not, but failure to correctly signpost creates the case.
“Thinks he’s high in the world with his 14 year old C2” 🤭😂
Tbh Matt u really got it wrong on this one, it was clearly marked 😳
Not really clearly marked, one tiny sign on the other side of the road from where he come from, if you knew where you were going prior that is easily missed because most people look ahead at the corner of the bend not over the road when not crossing
@@monkstandinglast it's still marked though.
@@Zeus-kj7nn Not well enough though, just because theres a line painted across could be anything from roadworks to grafiti without being properly signed in as is the case here (one sign, not in a location hinting where the sign would mean the road, and being a non recognised no entry sign from any that is standardly used by the highways agency ie the red circle with red line through) I and probably many others would have assumed that sign meant don't try going on grass and jumping the fence with it being nowhere near the road and the angle it was at. all this points to either that place trying to effect a takeover of public land or they are incompetent at putting their no entry rules in a clear way.
Good old MOD Plod.. nothing more than glorified security guards!
Matt I've told you before IGNORANCE CAN BE EDUCATED, AND CRAZY CAN BE MEDICATED, BUT THERE'S NO CURE FOR STUPID. But you have my admiration and respect for persevering in what I think is a lost cause. Maybe you should give an award once a month for the most Fluent in BS
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@Brian Mooney And? I'll ask him to spend time reflecting on the sin of making a mistake whilst he's in the Naughty Corner. Happy now Brian? 🥂
@Brian Mooney No you're pulling my Leg 😂 cum on Brian get it together Man
Respect Mat.
Respect John mate
@@mat12128 nah not respect.
I fucking hate the police but you are a melt mate.
Well done Matt putting these bullies in there place! You can see how much they want the public not to know there rights! Id is like crack to these fools!
He literally LOST this one idiot lmfao. I'VE DOUBLE CHECKED EVERYTHING. Yeaaa...apparently not. Absolute dipshit.
The courts must rule that asking for ID more than once by a cop is automatically considered a demand for ID.
Or they'll stand there and say I'm asking 30 times.
There must be a threshold ruled on how many times they can "ask".
What's all that traffic doing on MOD land....
Workers. It's the biggest employer in Plymouth. The largest naval base in Western Europe.
Its hundreds of acres with thousands of people working there.
How weird is that,....you can't cross their red line, but all those cars, push bikes & pedestrians can. Is it in their training to come out so hard and try to bully people, then if that doesn't work then start to act lawfully? Move the bloody gate to the red line if it's such a problem!
They were right but your point is my point exactly!
Because all those vehicles have business with the yard, it's not a public through road
PC PAIR PLUMS
That is how you step on them!! Really STEP on them, like you step on a cockroach!!
MOD property is behind the hedge to the right parallel with the sign not the red line, if it was the red line can they trespass all the motorists and pedestrians?
two old bullys,bullying a man,what are these bullys not like when working with younger ppl.
Loved your attitude to them. Even when you were in the wrong, you kept at them.
Matt have been watching your vids a couple o weeks now I'm just goin through the back catalogue , good vid's & I wish you well for your channel , keep em comin 👍
Im loving this you handled this brilliantly seen him back pedalling hahaha
The 1st security guy tried to pawn
himself off as Ronnie Pickering.
Ronnie Pickering!!
Cheers from Toronto.
Always obsessed with getting everyone’s private details. It’s an addiction!
Asking multiple times for ID when each time its refused becomes demanding. It's never polite.
Because of the current terrorist situation, tell the government to stop letting the current situation into the country then.
Well done keep arrogant police like that bloke in check what a jerk🙋♂️🇦🇺
Are you referring to the one that proved his point which Matt accepted?
@@leathleyg5995 Why are they not stopping all the vehicles driving through with dashcams ?
@@noelward8047 Because they don't want to....its their property, they can pick on a guy with a camera if they like.
@@leathleyg5995 'pick on a guy'
There it is, in a nutshell Haha
(You must try harder).
@@leathleyg5995 There it is ... 'pick on'.
Do you understand Law ?
Great video Matt good for standing your ground 👍👍👍👍
Quite a poor start - but credit where it’s due: they did adjust their approach , and it ended quite pleasantly. Personally; I can forgive the ‘welcome’ if they adjust after a conversation. They will have learned from the interaction too, so all good.
Good audit, Matt! 👍
New law !!!! Police law. Everything in GB is private property
Owned by police departments
And photography is a crime
That is what police officers taught us today
never knew you signed the official secrets act
What sign!!uh-huh that sign that shut you up 🤣🤣🤣
Still one of the best Auditors ever .Mat TKO. What a couple of Rotten Apples you deflated those tyrants with the skill of a grand master jedi.
Reminds me of a dads army episode , ‘don’t tell him your name Pike’ 😁
IDENTIFICATION!!!! IDENTIFICATION!! IDENTIFICATION!!! IDENTIFICATION!!! It's like a drug to these thugs! Hey! That rhymed!
you have more bottle than my bloody milkman keep it up
Surely that "MOD PROPERTY REFERS TO THE LAND BEHIND THE TREES??
Mat climbed down upon seeing the red line
I'm at 4:08 and I can't understand why you told these cops to put up "No Photography" notices. If they did do that, the signs would have no legal effect, but such signs might deter other auditors and even impinge on the rights of the public. ,....Remember PINAC!, ffs
If its MOD property, is permissive access..-no legal right to even "BE" there....so no legal right to film.
There's more than enough auditors in the UK trying to stand up for rights they don't actually have...
@@leathleyg5995 - Yep, I accept you're right - I posted before the end of vid. I'll try not to do that again. I had too much faith in the auditor, cos normally he's more careful than that!
The question I always ask myself after watching video's like these, is why do we have the security threat in the first place? Who is responsible for the state of the UK security?
Love the way you dealt with those two dum dums
If it’s that sensitive or secret……why not put a controlled gate at the demarcation point to avoid this situation happening. That might save some MoD Police time.
13:30 So security and police think that the use of a camera is a huge great security risk. Until they take Google to court for the photos available on Streetmap then I'll call his statements absolute bullshit and extreme gaslighting and just pure intimidation.
@Brian Mooney Judges work with the law, not people's security concerns.
you took the piggies for a walkie.
So photography is a major threat to uk security but not the unchecked dingy divers flooding our shores ??? 🤔
1.hands-pockets.
2.headgear.
3.unauthorised paraphenalia on issued uniform.
4.copsplaining.
5.failure to correctly identify.
6.parked on pavement.
7.wasting police time.
That sign surely applies to the land behind it?
I absolutely hate this profession. They haven't got a clue A pub fight and they wouldn't turn up. A burglary, not to be seen. Post meme and 3 turn up - hated by the majority.
You are spot on, MOD plod definitely wouldn't be called on to attend a fight on a civilian site because they are employed to secure MILITARY sites. The clue is in the name ffs...................
@Brian Mooney I 100% wouldn't call them.
I would call an ambulance for the idiot who broke into my house. The chances of the Police turning up are slim to none. You keep your faith in the plebs in blue. I'll keep the faith in my ability to deal with intruders myself.
@@thewomble1509 it's based on the police in general, all egotistical power hungry plebs. You keep going balls deep on the boys in blue. FFS 🤔
@@simplymatty Whoo how brave you are!
I am no Police fan boy matt but I am able to use discernment and good judgement. Talk to me like that again and we'll have to meet up you wanker
Protect our borders not your gates!
There is zero current terrorist threat at all.
Earning the hate,they love it ,they live and breath the hate and contempt for anyone not in a police uniform
Another absolutely fantastic video. More of these videos and stay safe PLEASE.
👋😂😂😂😂😂😂prune.
Dynamite altogether brother!
Keep your shoulder to the wheel ✨️
"Sorry carnt rememberrr 'ave oi mentioned the Official Secrets Act?" 😂
Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 19
"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."
So showing the finger, even swearing, is a form of expression, and therefore police can do nothing, you know, seeing as these tyrants swear an oath to "uphold fundemental human rights". But not using threats, as that is actually against the law. And photogrphing/videoing in public is also laid out in the Met polices own website
"Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel."
Trying to use the terrorism crap is the biggest twist in their rules as they have to have evidence that you are involved in terrorism, not just because they "think" you are. And how many terrorists, who use covert measures to keep their identities hidden, are going to stand, in broad daylight, with face in full view of every CCTV, dashcam, cameraphone, and person who can give a description? Yeah, none. Bullying thugs abusing rights need to be disciplined, even sacked. At least he apologised, but he shouldn't need to if he hadn't gone in full on attitude problem
They haven't stopped him they've just asked to not do it on mod land. Simple.
You’re still one of the best out there
Great content as usual
The Official Secrets Act 1989 applies to people (namely crown employees and government contractors), in certain circumstances. It does not apply to places. It might apply to people working in a certain place but not the place itself.
They parked on double yellow lines. Double yellow lines exist to stop people parking in certain places in public. There's no laws about how/where people park on private property, so there's not double yellow lines on private property. Even if that area is private property - the double yellow lines suggest it's public.
I'm not interested in Google,even though they have apparently,illegally,filmed a Naval Base?!?!?
It’s so fricken stupid.
Also, my house is blurred on Google street view. The entrance of this base isn’t. What difference does it make then ?
They love acting big and abusing the public 😤😤
Matt matey apparently the royal navy ain't called the senior service for nothing Lol
'You're carrying out photography,' do these clowns actually hear themselves?
What a jumped up petty little man, thinks the uniform makes him a superhero. Well done Matt owned that insignificant little man. He could bore a glass eye to sleep. Them two are like Dad's army not a clue
Very unususal for MOD Plod,they are ususally far more professional, although he did apologise for being abrupt. However, well done for standing your ground with them. That sign, faces the wrong way and says nothing about restrictions on what you can or can't do. If they don;t want people going down that road, they should put a manned barrier there.
That sign is illegal. It's also above the eye line of sight.
I would read that sign as i cant go on the grass (passed the sign thats sideways on to the path) they need to turn the sign 90 degrees so it follows the line.
Yup! I agree..... I expected it to say '' NO BALL GAMES '' actually!
Did you FUCKUP Matt lol
It's open to the public as it has a public path so his argument doesn't add up as it doesn't say no entry and we fund that property so he is talking out his backside and they are trying to assert there so called authority.
There's always one that wants to remain in denial of the facts cos it hurts their ego.!!!!
Matt was THERE...he accepted it...what don't you "get"?
@@leathleyg5995 he hasn't crossed any gate or barrier to get they so if it's open like that then he can what don't you get, why has it got a zebra crossing?
@@johnancill7397 John, you have been watching too many dumb auditors. There's no requirement in the UK for gates barriers fences, signs, or boundaries to be marked. A lot of auditors (not Matt...obviously) spout endless amounts of legal garbage. If they shout it often enough, then they start to think its true and so do their disciples...
@@leathleyg5995 what I'm referring to is written into law that's why auditors use it the police rely on the public's ignorance to use it but with the internet you can access these laws
@@johnancill7397 Are you serious.? Since when did auditors use law? Except to twist and make up their own.
Sect 33
Public access
Tax funded so we own it
Needs barriers gates and signs
Trespass is civil - nothing you can do
I have an implied right.
Its on street view so its public.
And many many more nonsense rules that the auditing community have dreamed up
Stanford prison experiment springs to mind.
I spent time there in 1979, we built a ramp up to the deck of The Ark Royal so it could be decommissioned.
@Brian Mooneywhy? Because you didn't see me there?