Nobody knew after why he had it. Many coincidental occasions, one effect. A pot of smoke, far from home. To serve the travellers in the end, as it would even if they stayed home. Not the beliefs create the ways. The ways unchange generations.
One of Jackson's unforgivable changes was removing The Scourging of The Shire which ended with Saruman's death. Imagine Revenge of The Sith without Anakin killing the count...
@@marbellaotaiza801 actually, rumors said it actually should have been the secretly dark lord Darth Jar Jar in that dual. Also Darth Jar Jar seems now also be semi canon due to the trailer of the Lego SW series "Rebuild the Galaxy" ^^
@@marbellaotaiza801The Scourging of The Shire of of added at least an extra hour of run time to the film, so they didn't add it because the third film is already a long film
Not only was he jealous that Gandalf was given the ring by Cirdan the Shipwright, but he was so jealous and admired Sauron so much that he made his own ring of power and named himself "Ring Maker."
The fact that Saruman might have forged himself a ring of power is super cool and never really talked about. Unfortunately Tolkien never mentions this ring aside from two sentences spoken By Gandalf and Saruman.
@ramondejesus65 Tolkien didn't talk much about this ring Saruman made because he failed at a making a magical ring. And even in his failure, Saruman tried making himself look good by naming himself Ring Maker.
@@sameehkins5957 Tolkien doesn't really talk about this ring because that's just how Tolkien writes, he likes to keep some things mysterious. But I'm curious, where do you get the idea that Saruman failed to create this ring?
Hmmm, I thought that was communicated by the fact that he sent his own guys who could march in the light, with the white hand on their helmets. Eomir says they aren't Sauron's guys, but Sarumon's. Maybe not strongly communicated, but I got the point. Eventually, that is😁
I gotta say, Galadrial is kinda one of the underrated greats imo. She's primordial af and has the wisdom and power that goes with being around as long as she has, but she's also kind and sees the good in others.
Another factor to consider is is what Gandalf and Saruman did when they arrived at Middle Earth. While Saruman decided to stay put in Isengard and play hosts to high ranking groups like Kings and Queens, Gandalf took a more humbler role. He travelled and mingled with common folks - Humans, Elves, Dwarves and finally Hobbits. He came to know them and therefore, could see the good in them all the way to the end. That is where the famous qoute (from the Hobbits) - "Saruman believe it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found. It is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folks that keeps the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love." Saruman could only see deceit, politics and cunningness of these races (through their leaders) which is why he was easily believe that they could fall and Sauron will rule over them.
Two points for clarification: 1. Saruman likely did not know that’s Narya was in Gandalf’s possession. This was likely a secret kept by Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond. 2. Saruman and Sauron had some history. They were both Maia in service to the Vala Aule. They were brethren from the dawn of time until Sauron turned aside and began following Morgoth. Sauron was Aule’s most powerful and talented Maia, and Saruman probably looked up to him and/or was jealous and aspired to be like him for millennia.
Meanwhile, the blue wizards in the East held the darkness of Morgoth and Sauron for thousands of years before likely falling under Sauron's temptations.
I would think that if they had fallen under Sauron's control we would have heard more about them. They would certainly beem more powerful than the Nazgul. Sauron would absolutely have pulled them to the war in Gondor.
@@chaosh7040he did not say Morgoth. He said Morgoth's darkness and Sauron. Morgoth spread his darkness into the world to crear the evil in it. When he was gone. That darkness remained.
Saruman overall was second rate in pretty much everything. Even his own human guards and Uruk Hai called him "old man", he thought they were calling him "wise one".
Gandalf is my favorite character in all fiction of this type. He is the perfect example of what I would call a humble God and the greatest humanitarian anywhere. People with that kind of power are never modest that I've met. Well. I've never met people with that kind of power, but you know what I mean😊
Jelousy is a symptom (as are all "the deadly sins"). A symptom of nonacknowledgement and nonalignment with the Eternal depth of being and cosmic laws...
One of the seven sins…. Sauron was envious, not jealous. They are different things. Envy is “the painful feeling of wanting what someone else has, like attributes or possessions. If you're jealous, you feel “threatened, protective, or fearful of losing one's position or situation to someone else. These two words are commonly misused.
True, but I’d add that jealousy also means you don’t want that other person to have what they have and that you’re not happy for them. You can still envy someone but still be happy for them.
Saruman never served Sauron nor bent to him at all in the books. The Gandalf locked in the Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript-C) The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in fear & despair, & perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, & to beg for his pardon & help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, & said that he would go & try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - & found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras. See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy & even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund in the duel of visions, (Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was the most important in the Legendarium & is the main reason the third age even exists) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down, but Saruman(Curumo) was the mostly already becoming weary due to what was called The Long Defeat, magic bleeding out from the lands of middle earth and subsequently certain things become less and less possible and the elves begin to go west. Even the ones who never wished to leave middle earth and many of which were born here by the thousands. So him also being a student and helper of Aulë of the Valar he was going to fight fire with fire and make a bid for the ring just so Sauron could never regain full power and if Saruman found a way to release himself from his power restrictions even by any small margin or worked with Eru in some way it might have worked out in the end if things went differently enough to where such action from him would be needed. Ontop of that he was growing ever jealous of Gandalf for he received the Varya from Círdan and prior to that was chosen by the other Valar, Nienna’s chosen champion to go to middle earth. But Gandalf(Olórin back then) refused over and over and exclaimed his fear of Sauron(Mairon), varya I feel would have kindle the heart of Saruman to stay strong as he had been fighting the evils of the world for a very long time since he had been sent to Middle Earth. And for the is reason Saruman wished to hold the ring at hostage. Keep Sauron from taking back his full strength and basically use it to stave off The Long Defeat. Saruman is very complex. The Hobbit movies actually shows how he was even 60 years ago during Bilbo’s story. He was one of the main forces thwarting Sauron for over 2000 years. The Númenoreans: the high men of the west; gifted Saruman with Orthanc which was of their making. Now known as Isengard. - saruman is actually trying to doublecross sauron. He wants the ring for himself. He thinks he can control it. The little orcs around saruman are from mordor - sauron's orcs sent to help saruman but also to spy on him. The big fighting orcs - the uruk hai - are loyal only to saruman. Orcs are like that. But its why saruman's orders are a bit vague - to avoid sauron's orcs knowing what saruman is doing. The movies dont make this bit of the story very clear. But notice that, while saruman knows where the fellowship is he never lets Sauron Know.
The numenoreans didn't give Isengard to Saruman, after Helm Hammerhand died, Saruman returned from his journeys in the far east, and sort of "occupied it by friendly force", Fréaláf (the new King of Rohan) told Saruman to contact Beren (Gondor's Steward), which gladly gave Orthanc's key to the wizard (grave mistake).
I kinda assumed the ring would change size to fit those who held it, like how it shrinks from saurons finger to (I'm sorry I forgot his name) fit the human who cut it off
@@Ronbonbon7 Exodus 20:17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” Covetousness is proscribed across the board.
‘Well it’s like, yeah sure, stay in your shire and get fat. Smoke your pipe weed, and pour over old maps but when the Orcs come running in (and they will) you’ll be in Mordor and that’s scary man. So go out there and bear your ring, it’s sure as hell better than who you are now.’ - Also probably Jordan Peterson
In my country we have a saying " The people in power have too much trust in their wisdom while the wise people who should have jad the power have too many second thoughts about it ". Gandalf was always afraid of the power he could wield because he feared himself and the hunger for power that could spark in him. He actually humbled himself in order to learn more and be prepared. Saruman always wanted to prove to others his greatness no matter the price. He became the leader of the White Council in hopes of wielding more power to his own means, feeding his ego.
No he's not. If you do some research into it you'll find that saruman begged to be sent with Gandolf and the others. He was not chosen to go because he was weaker. While Gandolf did hold him in high regard that's because he existed long before middle earth was populated. Hell, Gandolf, giladrial and saruman predate everything about middle earth. They are "celestial beings" for lack of a better term and not mortal men, their not even human. Ever wonder why Gandolf fights a balrog but didn't fight smaug? Because even smaug wasn't a great enough threat in the larger scene of things. But the balrog was a creature of pure darkness created in the long forgotten past to be a soldier in Melkar's war
He also attempted to make his own rings of power because he calls himself ring maker, and it is conceivable, although not confirmed in any of the novels that he had a ring and worm tongue also had a ring and that’s why worm tongue was so easily manipulated by Saruman
Cristopher Lee was an amazing man and actor. He played Saruman perfectly. Even though both of them ultimately deserved it because of all the evil they did, I still feel bad for how Sauron, Saruman and other Ainur (Valar and Maiar alike) ended up. Even though the Valar and Maiar can never truly perish, if they use up all their power they’ll no longer be able to interact with the world. In other words, they’re reduced to powerless, formless, invisible and untouchable ghosts that can do nothing but wonder until the end of time. This happened to a handful of Ainur, most notably Sauron and Saruman who were both Maiar and Morgoth (Melkor) who was a Valar and the first Dark Lord.
That doesn’t really explain the “How” tho. Only the “Why”. HOW was his mind twisted with such dark thoughts and feelings of hatred? We know from the Silmarillion that evil steamed from Morgoth and those he corrupted with his machinations of destruction and chaos. So did Morgoth somehow weave his way into Sarumans’ mind before he was tasked with leaving for Middle Earth?
It actually goes back farther than this.....sauroman and Sauron were both servants of Aule. They were servants of the smith of the valar. They worked together and were close when they were maiar. Gandalf was the servant of Manwe the king of the valar. Sauroman was always second to Sauron during their time under Aule and he was close with him. And on top of that Aule defied eru illuvetar by attempting to create life on his own. (The dwarves).
I feel like this video, in a way, perfectly explains what Gandalf meant when he came back as the white wizard when he says "Or more like, I'm Sauroman as he should have been". Gandalf never craved power, knowing the burdens that come with it. Gandalf also understood the ways, lives, and wills of men, elves, and hobbits (and was respected by all of them for it). Had Sauroman pursued knowledge and understanding the way Gandalf did, he wouldn't have had to be envious of Gandalf, because he would have been great in his own right. Instead, he chose to emulate the Dark Lord, gain power like the Dark Lord did and thought nothing of those who would be destroyed by it.
One thing that always bothered me...why did the Valar not recognize the character flaw, or you could say predisposition, to pride in Curumo before sending him as one of the Istari? Seems that Galadriel either did so, or saw the greater and more suited character in Gandalf. And Cirdan saw some combination of the same (altho maybe it was pure foresight on his part).
Saruman: "The Halfling's leaf has clearly slowed your mind."
Also Saruman: _Has a barrel of the stuff in his house._
Lmao😂😅😊U killed me🤣 I Wouldn't put it past Saruman doing that . He's too sketchy 😊
Maybe he use it occasionally, while Gandalf is addicted.
Like i can drink and still tell my friends they are drunk as fuck
😂😂😂😂😂
Nobody knew after why he had it. Many coincidental occasions, one effect. A pot of smoke, far from home. To serve the travellers in the end, as it would even if they stayed home. Not the beliefs create the ways. The ways unchange generations.
Who doesn’t love the halfling leaf?
Just like his cousin Count Dooku.
😂😂😂
One of Jackson's unforgivable changes was removing The Scourging of The Shire which ended with Saruman's death. Imagine Revenge of The Sith without Anakin killing the count...
@@marbellaotaiza801 absolutely. Just awful. But, Return of the King was so long as is. But, I do agree. Of all the things to cut?
@@marbellaotaiza801 actually, rumors said it actually should have been the secretly dark lord Darth Jar Jar in that dual. Also Darth Jar Jar seems now also be semi canon due to the trailer of the Lego SW series "Rebuild the Galaxy" ^^
@@marbellaotaiza801The Scourging of The Shire of of added at least an extra hour of run time to the film, so they didn't add it because the third film is already a long film
Not only was he jealous that Gandalf was given the ring by Cirdan the Shipwright, but he was so jealous and admired Sauron so much that he made his own ring of power and named himself "Ring Maker."
The fact that Saruman might have forged himself a ring of power is super cool and never really talked about. Unfortunately Tolkien never mentions this ring aside from two sentences spoken By Gandalf and Saruman.
@ramondejesus65 Yes, but Saruman referring to himself as "Ring Maker" is more than enough for me to jump up and down in excitement. 😂
@ramondejesus65 Tolkien didn't talk much about this ring Saruman made because he failed at a making a magical ring. And even in his failure, Saruman tried making himself look good by naming himself Ring Maker.
@@sameehkins5957 Tolkien doesn't really talk about this ring because that's just how Tolkien writes, he likes to keep some things mysterious. But I'm curious, where do you get the idea that Saruman failed to create this ring?
I don’t think he was jealous of Gandalf the Grey… he was just hungry for power.
One thing that neither the animated film or the live action trilogy do is show that he betrayed Sauron and the attack on Rohan was his own decision
Hmmm, I thought that was communicated by the fact that he sent his own guys who could march in the light, with the white hand on their helmets. Eomir says they aren't Sauron's guys, but Sarumon's. Maybe not strongly communicated, but I got the point. Eventually, that is😁
That Galadriel pic is stunning.
All of them are out of this world
I actually tapped on this just so I could try to find the artist of that picture
@@lizard3755 who is it? There's nothing in the description.
Anybody knows?
I gotta say, Galadrial is kinda one of the underrated greats imo. She's primordial af and has the wisdom and power that goes with being around as long as she has, but she's also kind and sees the good in others.
It’s all Gandalf’s fault. He’s jealous. He’s holding me back!
*throws staff*
Merks hobbit children
From my point of view the Istari are evil!
Jealousy is but the child of pride and greed
Another factor to consider is is what Gandalf and Saruman did when they arrived at Middle Earth.
While Saruman decided to stay put in Isengard and play hosts to high ranking groups like Kings and Queens, Gandalf took a more humbler role. He travelled and mingled with common folks - Humans, Elves, Dwarves and finally Hobbits. He came to know them and therefore, could see the good in them all the way to the end.
That is where the famous qoute (from the Hobbits) - "Saruman believe it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found. It is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folks that keeps the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love."
Saruman could only see deceit, politics and cunningness of these races (through their leaders) which is why he was easily believe that they could fall and Sauron will rule over them.
Saruman originally did travel. He went throughout the East and back again.
@@thomassaxon8254I've often wondered, given that the two Blue Wizards traveled to the East as well, if Saruman killed them while he was out there.
Sooo, Saruman is the equivalent to Lucifer?
No, that would be Melkor/ Morgoth, the big bad in the First Age. Sauron was one of his minions. @@El_Gungas
@@jonesnori OH, I always forget about him... thank you so much!
Interesting, especially considering that, if my memory doesn't fail me, Gandalf held Saruman in really high regard.
Of course he did
I think saruman was stronger generally but the valar and elves saw gandalf's better spirit
Yes. Saruman was stronger, but Gandalf was wiser.
Gandalf was kinder more than wiser. He learnt pity and patience from Nienna, something Saruman lacked.
@@giennder then he should have got he is better but someelse got it that screws with your head its like no matter what you do you will not get it
Envy is the beginning of the fall of everyone. The Evil start trapping you once you develop this feeling in you.
Yes, envy is like an insidious poison in the veins of the soul.
I want a visual book of this lore with these kinds of pictures. Not a movie. Just the amazing pictures
Same!
Rip Christopher lee
Im so off i didnt know he was dead..and i love lotr and star wars .. RIP
@@user-ys7eh9kx9p sorry for breaking it in to you 💔 it's just sad news, he was the most badass actor in the lotr cast. Considering background.
@@mohammadbahari1204 and also metal singer with 4 albums.
This is why he bred his own type of Ork aka the Uruk hai and ordered them to take the ring and bring it back to Eisengard and NOT Mordor.
To be fair, it would be wise for Saruman to deliver the Ring to Sauron and not some random Orcs. Not that he would deliver it.
@@wasdwasd609saruman wanted the ring for himself. He didn't want to give it to sauron
I wonder what would he have accomplished? No? He couldn’t ever surpass Sauron
I think the Uruks were actually created before Saruman started producing them?
Afaik he just worked on them and perfected them? I may be wrong.
@@pascalschulz5894No. You have right. He perfected the Uruk kai.
Saruman maybe allied with sauron but he's not loyal with him. He also want to rule middle earth and would betray sauron if necessary
What many fans don’t realise is that once Saruman made contact with Sauron, he could sense the merchandising opportunities
He saw how Osgiliath could be turned into the largest casino the Middle Earth has ever seen, along with other business opportunities.
Merchandising: where the REAL money from the war is made!
Two points for clarification:
1. Saruman likely did not know that’s Narya was in Gandalf’s possession. This was likely a secret kept by Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond.
2. Saruman and Sauron had some history. They were both Maia in service to the Vala Aule. They were brethren from the dawn of time until Sauron turned aside and began following Morgoth. Sauron was Aule’s most powerful and talented Maia, and Saruman probably looked up to him and/or was jealous and aspired to be like him for millennia.
In which book can I read about this, please?
Meanwhile, the blue wizards in the East held the darkness of Morgoth and Sauron for thousands of years before likely falling under Sauron's temptations.
I would think that if they had fallen under Sauron's control we would have heard more about them. They would certainly beem more powerful than the Nazgul. Sauron would absolutely have pulled them to the war in Gondor.
I'm pretty sure Morgoth was already imprisoned before the Istari were sent to Middle Earth.
@@chaosh7040he did not say Morgoth. He said Morgoth's darkness and Sauron. Morgoth spread his darkness into the world to crear the evil in it. When he was gone. That darkness remained.
“How can you lead the white council and not be a white wizard? It’s not fair!”
“Havo dad, Saruman.”
Saruman overall was second rate in pretty much everything. Even his own human guards and Uruk Hai called him "old man", he thought they were calling him "wise one".
If Sarumon asked Gandalf about the ring, Gandalf could have said it's "Nenya" business.
Ba-dum tsss
Get out...
Gandalf is my favorite character in all fiction of this type. He is the perfect example of what I would call a humble God and the greatest humanitarian anywhere. People with that kind of power are never modest that I've met. Well. I've never met people with that kind of power, but you know what I mean😊
He's more of a minor angel
Jelousy is a symptom (as are all "the deadly sins"). A symptom of nonacknowledgement and nonalignment with the Eternal depth of being and cosmic laws...
One of the seven sins…. Sauron was envious, not jealous. They are different things. Envy is “the painful feeling of wanting what someone else has, like attributes or possessions. If you're jealous, you feel “threatened, protective, or fearful of losing one's position or situation to someone else. These two words are commonly misused.
True, but I’d add that jealousy also means you don’t want that other person to have what they have and that you’re not happy for them. You can still envy someone but still be happy for them.
That's what happens when you neglect in the workplace.
Saruman never served Sauron nor bent to him at all in the books. The Gandalf locked in the Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript-C) The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in fear & despair, & perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, & to beg for his pardon & help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, & said that he would go & try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - & found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras.
See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy & even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund in the duel of visions, (Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was the most important in the Legendarium & is the main reason the third age even exists) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down, but Saruman(Curumo) was the mostly already becoming weary due to what was called The Long Defeat, magic bleeding out from the lands of middle earth and subsequently certain things become less and less possible and the elves begin to go west.
Even the ones who never wished to leave middle earth and many of which were born here by the thousands.
So him also being a student and helper of Aulë of the Valar he was going to fight fire with fire and make a bid for the ring just so Sauron could never regain full power and if Saruman found a way to release himself from his power restrictions even by any small margin or worked with Eru in some way it might have worked out in the end if things went differently enough to where such action from him would be needed.
Ontop of that he was growing ever jealous of Gandalf for he received the Varya from Círdan and prior to that was chosen by the other Valar, Nienna’s chosen champion to go to middle earth. But Gandalf(Olórin back then) refused over and over and exclaimed his fear of Sauron(Mairon), varya I feel would have kindle the heart of Saruman to stay strong as he had been fighting the evils of the world for a very long time since he had been sent to Middle Earth.
And for the is reason Saruman wished to hold the ring at hostage. Keep Sauron from taking back his full strength and basically use it to stave off The Long Defeat.
Saruman is very complex. The Hobbit movies actually shows how he was even 60 years ago during Bilbo’s story. He was one of the main forces thwarting Sauron for over 2000 years. The Númenoreans: the high men of the west; gifted Saruman with Orthanc which was of their making. Now known as Isengard.
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saruman is actually trying to doublecross sauron. He wants the ring for himself. He thinks he can control it. The little orcs around saruman are from mordor - sauron's orcs sent to help saruman but also to spy on him. The big fighting orcs - the uruk hai - are loyal only to saruman.
Orcs are like that. But its why saruman's orders are a bit vague - to avoid sauron's orcs knowing what saruman is doing. The movies dont make this bit of the story very clear. But notice that, while saruman knows where the fellowship is he never lets Sauron Know.
The numenoreans didn't give Isengard to Saruman, after Helm Hammerhand died, Saruman returned from his journeys in the far east, and sort of "occupied it by friendly force", Fréaláf (the new King of Rohan) told Saruman to contact Beren (Gondor's Steward), which gladly gave Orthanc's key to the wizard (grave mistake).
Where did you find this art work, they look fantastic.
These are images generated from an Artificial Intelligence program. Still, they are intriguing!
God how I love middle earth lore
I love how everyone in Middle Earth has the same ring size
I kinda assumed the ring would change size to fit those who held it, like how it shrinks from saurons finger to (I'm sorry I forgot his name) fit the human who cut it off
@@alexischavez3238correct
@@alexischavez3238good catch.
He was probably still jealous of Sauron from their days as apprentices to Aulë the Smith
He secretly smoked pipe weed but scorned Gandalf about it saying it clouded his judgement. Sauron was using him anyways to conquer the people of Rohan
"Thou shalt not covet" is a commandment for a reason.
You mean neighbor’s wife, not in general
@@Ronbonbon7 Exodus 20:17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” Covetousness is proscribed across the board.
yes indeed - along with its close cousins pride, greed, lust, etc., the great (and ubiquitous) roots of all evil
I always thought there was a healthy dose of despair at the power of sauron that made saruman turn in addition to the lust for power
What beautiful illustrations 🤩👍
I concur
If you were Saruman, you’d descend into darkness as well.
-Jordan Peterson, probably.
‘Well it’s like, yeah sure, stay in your shire and get fat. Smoke your pipe weed, and pour over old maps but when the Orcs come running in (and they will) you’ll be in Mordor and that’s scary man. So go out there and bear your ring, it’s sure as hell better than who you are now.’
- Also probably Jordan Peterson
@@Goblin_deez.Why can I hear his voice saying this haha
@@Goblin_deez.‘There’s a fell voice on the wind!’
*Jordan Petersons cries echo around Caradhraz (or however u spell it)*
No I won’t… Gandalf didn’t, he denounced the ring. So did Galadriel…
Jordan: "Think Cain and Abel"
In my country we have a saying " The people in power have too much trust in their wisdom while the wise people who should have jad the power have too many second thoughts about it ".
Gandalf was always afraid of the power he could wield because he feared himself and the hunger for power that could spark in him. He actually humbled himself in order to learn more and be prepared. Saruman always wanted to prove to others his greatness no matter the price. He became the leader of the White Council in hopes of wielding more power to his own means, feeding his ego.
Saruman was more powerful than Gandalf in many ways but not in spirit and wisdom and this hurt him
No he's not. If you do some research into it you'll find that saruman begged to be sent with Gandolf and the others. He was not chosen to go because he was weaker. While Gandolf did hold him in high regard that's because he existed long before middle earth was populated. Hell, Gandolf, giladrial and saruman predate everything about middle earth. They are "celestial beings" for lack of a better term and not mortal men, their not even human. Ever wonder why Gandolf fights a balrog but didn't fight smaug? Because even smaug wasn't a great enough threat in the larger scene of things. But the balrog was a creature of pure darkness created in the long forgotten past to be a soldier in Melkar's war
Bro played count dooku twice and thought we wouldn’t notice it
And that greed and jealousy was part of his entire vibe, everyone sensed him being off
Literally my work place
He also attempted to make his own rings of power because he calls himself ring maker, and it is conceivable, although not confirmed in any of the novels that he had a ring and worm tongue also had a ring and that’s why worm tongue was so easily manipulated by Saruman
Thanks for this
Cristopher Lee was an amazing man and actor. He played Saruman perfectly. Even though both of them ultimately deserved it because of all the evil they did, I still feel bad for how Sauron, Saruman and other Ainur (Valar and Maiar alike) ended up. Even though the Valar and Maiar can never truly perish, if they use up all their power they’ll no longer be able to interact with the world. In other words, they’re reduced to powerless, formless, invisible and untouchable ghosts that can do nothing but wonder until the end of time. This happened to a handful of Ainur, most notably Sauron and Saruman who were both Maiar and Morgoth (Melkor) who was a Valar and the first Dark Lord.
Love the artwork
If you look at him, it all started with a Bad Hair Day...
Damn thats crazy
Excellent 👍
It always seems that the best leaders are those who don’t seek it out
Its always Gandalf this and Gandalf that sauruman more like suru none
Backup always goes first into engaged realm (battle).
Watching the absolute awesomeness of this short angers me greatly, WHY AMAZON WHY!?
what a great picture of galadriel!
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That doesn’t really explain the “How” tho. Only the “Why”.
HOW was his mind twisted with such dark thoughts and feelings of hatred? We know from the Silmarillion that evil steamed from Morgoth and those he corrupted with his machinations of destruction and chaos.
So did Morgoth somehow weave his way into Sarumans’ mind before he was tasked with leaving for Middle Earth?
Because he was weak. Thats why he wasnt one of the ones actually chosen to go, he begged to be sent too.
Because ... stone cold said so
Educational
What was that famous Caribbean song?
Hey Mr. Saruman, tally me a hobbit?
And i hope the Lesson that ultimate power can be a real drag and not so wanted and fullfilling as it seems. Without Love and wisdom it is just a drag
I also think he thought Sauron was too powerful so it was a “If you can’t beat him, join him.
I think courage was a trait gandalf had... sauroman was scared.
The fact that Mithradir (Kicked not just Saurons ass, but Saruman's ass too and a fricken Balrog of Morgoth is incredible. Mithradir is legendary!!!
I need a LOTR young wizard movie so bad
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Pride and ambition.
It actually goes back farther than this.....sauroman and Sauron were both servants of Aule. They were servants of the smith of the valar. They worked together and were close when they were maiar.
Gandalf was the servant of Manwe the king of the valar.
Sauroman was always second to Sauron during their time under Aule and he was close with him. And on top of that Aule defied eru illuvetar by attempting to create life on his own. (The dwarves).
It's also the fact saruman was a student to aule as well as sauron was so it's a bit ironic both miars would turn to evil for power
This is how evil is made even in people
Also, the Golden Gun.
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Nobody new that Cirdan gave Naria to Gandalf though
That's why the 2nd movie was called the Two Tower because even though they are working together, unbeknownst to Sauron, Saruman have his own agenda.
Saruman also allied with sauron to basically get the ring for himself and destroy Sauron that way
He probably watched „the rings of power“
Nice, elves and aliens once again corrupted good willed person. 😂
Fear of becoming powerless
Envy, one of the 7 Deadly Sins.
coz everyone was smart enough knowing saruman not the trusted one
Not to mention both Saruman and Sauron used to be the Maiar of Aule
Moral of the story, don't be an asshole. Chill out & do your own peace. Be cool baby.
Humanity is against success.
This ignores the fact that Olorin had been to Middle Earth on missions before.
Well more than jealousy, this would be more like envy
No it was pride. Saromon thought he could use the ring for order and good as he saw it.
Because Galadriel rejected him yo!
Funny how Saruman was sent to help destroy Sauron. But in the end, he actually joined forces with Sauron.
I feel like this video, in a way, perfectly explains what Gandalf meant when he came back as the white wizard when he says "Or more like, I'm Sauroman as he should have been".
Gandalf never craved power, knowing the burdens that come with it. Gandalf also understood the ways, lives, and wills of men, elves, and hobbits (and was respected by all of them for it). Had Sauroman pursued knowledge and understanding the way Gandalf did, he wouldn't have had to be envious of Gandalf, because he would have been great in his own right. Instead, he chose to emulate the Dark Lord, gain power like the Dark Lord did and thought nothing of those who would be destroyed by it.
Rising to the top is a fixation and shouldn’t be awarded if motivated by anything but noble intentions.
Hes so petty 💀💀
Who's doing the art for these videos?
Where do you get this voice reader?
Movie on the five wizards please
One thing that always bothered me...why did the Valar not recognize the character flaw, or you could say predisposition, to pride in Curumo before sending him as one of the Istari? Seems that Galadriel either did so, or saw the greater and more suited character in Gandalf. And Cirdan saw some combination of the same (altho maybe it was pure foresight on his part).
.... they are taking the hobbits to isenguard!!
Why did Saruman become evil ?
To corner the kid’s birthday party racket in Middle Earth.
Nah it was because he wanted all the weed and salted pork for himself
@@badwolf3618 He considered pork haram, so no.
shows a failure of leadership in the first instance - clearly Gandalf should have been put in charge in the first place. The Valar flubbed that...
Valar can't teach jealousy and envy, can't prep them for the aftermath of morgoths work
@@nate7LP_my_dog_found_the_knife Iluvetar is omniscient. Can't know all and still be ignorant of those things.
I dont think Saruman knew Cirdan gave Gandalf one of the three elven rings
Wait I thought Sauron told him to build it so you saying he took it upon himself to build that crazy hybrid army?
Of course no talk of Saruman going from White to he of Many Colours.