The amount of toxic people, sellouts, and sweats in rec has turned me into strictly a theater player. Its no fun going into random rec because its like 2k gives you the worst teammates and if you dont have a full 5 dont even bother going into squads 😂
Loading up rec with my friends on new builds between 70-80 ovr and playing 5 purple 92 ovrs with pro am lineups and playing zone gotta be the saddest shit of all time. Those people gotta be the biggest losers I’ve ever seen on a video game.
One of the biggest problems with 2K is literally the people that play it. Not enough people even talk about it. It's crazy. They'll do literally anything in order to win. Whether abusing certain glitches within the game or just outright cheating themselves smh.
I have 92 ad under and 93 and above players. I've played more reject pro am teams in 92 and under. They realistically should add a casual rec with lower rep, for people who just want to chill and have fun; but whatever 2k does, the community will find a way to ruin it.
@@ImChrisJones92 lol an I'm talking about straight 2-3, with 2 locks at the top of the zone and the point guard hiding corner. You can usually hang around for a few but a few missed shots and a few turnovers and you're down 15. Shit..I've even played against a zen user in low level rec.
The real issue is squads and ransoms are separate. I always clamored for the random rec to be separate but not like this. You can’t even get one if you walk In with 4 it shouldn’t have been like that ever. Walking in with 3 most definitely will get you one ai still because nobody wants to run 2 mans anymore in the full squads. I use to run 2-3 mans all the time in the randoms and go crazyyyyyyyy. Now it’s Legit not physically possible because as soon as it’s you and one homie your playing 80% wins who shoot 70% with a random rec squad 😂
@@Ghostkilla773 wouldn’t both teams need to have a full squad of under 93 to be matched up with another team of all under 93? How many times have you actually gone into squad rec and every one on your team just made a new build?
@gsherman44 no you don't. It can happen though. But there are people who just takes the character online after just making them (with no badges, or guys who been grinding Mycareer and go to rec with their build. Plus a full team of 92 versus a bunch of Randoms happens way more if you have multiple creators making vids about it.
We need a way stricter IQ grade out system that match makes off IQ not off rep or overall. Maybe then we can populate a community of some people that choose to play the game RIGHT!
Grand Turismo and Forza motorsport have systems in place. Like a personal grade or whatever. The cleaner your races are you match up with other people that have similar grades. Then you actually have races instead of crashing simulators. 2k can do something like that. You foul a lot. Take bad shots. Hold the ball to long etc. your community grade goes down. Then you only play with people that are like you. Then the people who roleplay and have some actual pride in their game, get matched with similar people
Yeah, the game with be able to grade "IQ". Nah, you have a level rank that goes up or down with wins and losses, not tied to each built character but for each user account across all builds. Easy as that. Eventually the bums will fall to the bottom of the barrel.
I used to play my career a lot in the older games but now it is just boring and a waste of time. Playing online is annoying as hell. players missing open assists, shooting bad shots, dribbling way too long, and god forbid the game would randomly make your jumpshot not work you need 5 things just to be able to shot in park god forbid if the game lags.
Rec is more of a 5v5 1v1 like a pickup basketball game where proam u need actual team type of builds nd people who can play together. Biggest problem in the rec tho is a ton of bums who have egos and will throw games if it’s not an online mycareer game for them
I just played with some guy who only passed the ball between the 3 of them, one guy shot 2-11 another shot 1-13 and the other was 2-7 in the paint. Me and my boy was both 2-2 with A- grades only time we touched the ball is if we stole it, they would even call timeputs when we got it until we were out of timeouts. We lost that game like 140-30, andcone of them messaged me to delete the game🧐
2k community is soo weird. They hate competition, but want to dominate everyone in their way, and will do whatever it takes, as long as theres no competition. Those losers love to call better players no lives or sweats, yet theyre trying everything in their power to look like a sweat by controlling their wins
I just can't bring myself to primarily play down there. I understand the concept, but I'd rather play with my full build and match up against everyone, than have a 92 and beat up on 70 overalls. It's not fun to me.
for most part a build at 92 is mostly complete, depending on the build there's usually attributes that are worthless, like close shot on a pg that gets to a 61 or rebound that gets to a 45 you dont really need and dont need to spend the vc on. But that's the bad part is that you can have a complete build going against 75 overalls. They need to make the gap smaller at like around a 85
@@ImChrisJones92 lol you clearly just got here. Bro rec used to be 85 OVR min with a season solo on all star minimum difficulty. It was a quest like gym rat. You had to actually earn it. Rec used to be way way way different.
The fact that 2k has two different doors for random and squad rec but will still queue you up against full team in random rec. match making needs a new system
I feel like 93 and over rec has a worse pool of players. Like if I load into a game and my teammate is a 99 ovr who can’t shoot or play defense and he’s getting cooked by a 99 ovr, id rather have the 85 ovr who can shoot. I would max out my build if the game had better match making because im tired of getting 99 ovr bums on my team
92 and under is worse. 92 is picking on new created players who probably wont even be 80 overall or just dont have most badges maxed out. Theyre basically boosting their stats and records. Its like a high school varsity team going into a Freshmen gym class, and the Freshmen picking a random 5 to make a team and dont know what their skills are.
@@Ghostkilla773honestly idc if I’m 87 ovr going up against a 92 ovr. They gonna get cooked by ppl like me because I’m good enough to get a bucket and know how to win. 92 and up is sometimes confusing and demoralizing cause I see a bit of sorry ppl doing too much and still suck while being at their rating.
I have a 99 overall build that I avg 32 on 71 72 splits and a 92 overall 2 way build with no finishing that I avg 36 ppg on 75 75 splits and let me tell u there is absolutely no difference there’s bums in 92 n under n bums in 93 n over me personally I didn’t know 92 and under was a thing the only reason I ain’t upgrade my build fully is because it’s a waste of vc because the things left to upgrade are insignificant but I will say the players are slightly better in 93 n up but not by much tbh😭
If u play Solo rec It’s almost dumb to go past 92. Plenty of times I went above and get the worst teammates u could imagine. Meanwhile the natural nature of this toxic community stays at 92 for the competitive advantage. Meaning I’ll have better teammates and the other team will be competitive aswell. Because everyone’s doing it except the extreme casuals who shouldn’t even play online if ur not at least a 90. (Go grind ur build before u play with other people). Or play 1v1 theatre.
I feel the opposite. I'm not goin solo in 92 and under. Too many times I've loaded in wit 60s and 70s unable to back out. That's a complete waste of time. I bring my best builds to solos
See the thing is i play both high rec(93 plus) and low rec (92-low) but i feel like playing high rec i have to deal with even worse players then low rec😭
Tbh. I’m a casual player and I purposely stay in low rec, (less than 92), because I have so much going on in my life and I just wanna get on the game every now and then for an hour or two to relax and enjoy my time. Honestly I see nothing wrong with that, and it’s not like I’m out here averaging 50 on low rec either. I think that’s probably a lot of that demographic too
Once again , you playing in low rec isn’t my issue . It’s when people like you , get a team of other like you , and then implement high rec or pro am tactics to your game .
I only play 92 and under on new builds that I’m testing. I got a Paul George and a Kobe Build I made to fit my playstyle and I use them for fun and to warm up. When I actually want to hop on Rec with a squad and dominate I get on my 99 Bol Bol build, my 95 D-Wade or my 95 Tracy McGrady. The concept of having under 92 lobbies is great for casuals, but like you said in terms of actual functionality of it, it’s ass because of all the sweats that just want weak competition because they can’t handles getting their asses busted in good lobbies
I’m more of a realistic dribbler. But I get why ppl use the same Sigs. They make dribbling worse and worse every year. That wall cross over, murry btb, etc. all exploited because they the ones that work the most consistently. Simple stuff like simple hezi speed boost same side doesn’t work
Great Video Chris! Me and my friends talk about this every time we’re on 2k. It’s just 2-3 of us and we run into squads of 5 in the rec all the time running zone. It’s so annoying! Not to mention they all have a 91 steal rating or higher so they sit zone and just spam the square or x button all game. They need to get rid of squad rec asap!
I feel the zone should be penalized if ran for an extended period of time. I hate zone out takes the fun out of the game. Go learn to play defense you know?
@@demonNthesn0w oh hell yeah small courts make everyone look like deion Sanders. 2k has flawed mechanics, and Court size. We’re supposed to be nba players and I can’t make a proper pass to someone standing 3 feet from me. Zone isn’t hard to beat, but not everybody knows how to play basketball.
Lol…Defend the blk plates!! I’m sure your case is different from the rest of the community. Don’t forget they had to dumb the game down because of all the complaining about how hard shooting was at launch.
On the other side of the argument the matchmaking in ProAm is god awful. I play it when I have 5 of course but as a bronze team we have played the 2nd ranked team in the world, 26th ranked team in the world, and the 63rd ranked team in the world all in the same week. We have a positive record but that shit is annoying because they dance behind screens more than any thing I’ve ever seen.
Only fix is to reduce the amount of game modes. Make them lobby matchmaking with 0-100 ranking. Rank goes up or down with wins and losses. Eventually, the cream will rise to the top and the bums will fall to the bottom. Easy as that. Also, 92 and under random is fine, but 92 and under squads is ridiculous, as you noted. Misses the whole point.
It’s so refreshing to come across people like yourself , that understand the whole concept of what I’m saying . The crowd of “ It’s more competition in low rec than it is in high rec “… are exactly what’s wrong with the community.
The guys who had the game since september and are sitting in 92 and under rec are truly buns bc they scared are real comp😂😂😂 they are jus pathetic Literally they are purple plates off of playing bums bc they wanna take the easy way out
Being a person that plays 92 and under and 93 and above rec and i play pro am in my experience the randoms in both bad at times but in 92 under while i you claim we are scum its more about just hopping on and playing with a 3 stack or 2 stack just getting runs in i mainly go above when i have a full 5. 92 rec for me is just to get runs in i get better randoms in 92 rec than above cause for the most part its a big and a guard thats just trying to 2 man the entire game im not trying to sit there and watch a million screens be set and watch the pg go 5/25 from the field randoms in above 92 play like theyre the only ones on the court while in my experience randoms in 92 and under are more willing passing the ball and 9/10 outta in when you play above its always a 5 stack thats runs a zone and P&R and im not trying to sweat in rec if i dont have a full 5 thats what i play pro am for
You see how your point is about playing with randoms is 92 and under ? My point is pointing to the fact there are full teams of five that sit in that mode to feed off of other players that are in YOUR predicament.
Microtransactions Ruined the game for me. After they Nerfed Microtransastions in 2k17, it took too long to upgrade a player for me. I was patched. Cost too much time / money for me.
Bro I just scored 60 only missing 5 because my SG AND SF went 0 / 5 and C wasn't shooting... they kept getting in the way and it wasn't until I creeped up to 6 points that they tried but it was too late
I’m subscribing!!! Because you ain’t lying my real life friends got mad because I brought my 96 overall and they was tryna play 92 and under rec and I asked them aint we at the end of the year wtf yall create the player for if you not gonna see it at its fullest potential. And just the other day my boy said he ain’t played 2k since 2k19 and I str8 up told him if you trash just say that lmao because he talkin bout “it’s the best decision I ever made” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Technically it is the best decision he’s ever made for himself . He no longer has to deal with being called trash by people better/smarter than him also, he get to leave the worst community to ever exist.
Nah we don’t need that moving attribute bull anymore, they just need a skill based matchmaking. I stay in 92 u til my player can go 97 and it’s all good
I Dont think 92 and under is the problem. The problem is that 4/5 man squads have a HUGE advantage over 2/3 man squads. I never run a full 5, usually 2/3 of us. Whether we in 99 or 92 rec you most likeley playing a full squad, and it turns into 2v3v5. They just need to separate full squads from incomplete squads.
@EliteRolePlayer also, I can't speak for all but as a casual the main draw for 92under is that 92 builds cost like $40 less than 99 builds. My favorite thing to do in the game is create and test new and different builds so that $40/build adds up quick when I'm making 10+ builds throughout the year.
@@ImChrisJones92 I was more on the fence of, maybe it would help with latency cuz I don't think the city is going nowhere so one less game mode would contribute to the betterment of the game but I see whatcha saying also 😂😂
Shit I refuse to play park for how terrible the mode is so what would you put instead of rec for people who are only fans of 5v5 but not have a full squad for pro am or even want to play sweaty people in pro an
@@smb_dirtydan8573 That's where I was conflicted at. I was talking to someone about it and honestly I don't have an answer, I just brought it up because he mentioned it in the video but I feel where youre coming from fasho.
Crazy cuz i nvr even knew this was a thing, i did kinda realize the moment i got to 90 i aint see no players above 92 even tho i see 99 all over the city. Seeing this video actually made me aware of this 92 and under servers. Me personally i just upgraded my player as i want to use my player to the max potential and have rating thresholds i want to experience using. I wish others would just upgrade as well but can see why ppl keep a 92 under build. The quality in the higher rec games are good because now i dnt have to worry of getting a 60 overall teammate but seems to take much longer to get into games. In 92 and under id wait max 5 min to get into game due to the lobby hoppers but at 93 and up the lobby hopping is even worse. Sometimes i get in game early but ive waited 10-20 minutes for a game now. If playing late ive falled asleep to wake up with the game starting few possessions into the game lol
They dont need to remove rec..they just need to add a rec mode where casuals just go against ais(not nba teams or the street courts) same rec concept just vs all ais…
My friends and I personally stay at 92 cause we play casual and don’t like to sweat on the game all the time which we would in 93 & up. We just play for fun but God damn do I hate going against pro am wannabe teams in the rec when I’m just trying to have fun and chill😭
The real finesse is making your 92 build a “92.9” (technically a 93), and still being in 92 and under rec. Not gonna lie…I have a couple of 92.9 just to take advantage of that. 😂
@@ImChrisJones92 just to see if I could get an advantage😂. Bro you gotta realize, you run with a squad that all have very very high basketball IG. A lot of us gotta deal with randoms who don’t understand basketball or much of anything in life. We need help. 😂
You see the problem? How is 92 and under more sweaty than 93 and up ? That would mean , there are sweatier players , staying below 93 in hopes to run into weaker competition to get easier wins . But if more and more teams begin to do that then what do you think is going to happen? Stay woke …
I agree however I do keep my guy 92 under till I reach like 95-96 ovr so I can upgrade pretty much everything I need on the build because you can’t always upgrade everything you need at 93
Me and my boy play 92 and under rec with 90-92 usually newer builds, but those builds can all play up in above 92 rec. the problem with 92 and rec is the HOF players with 92 builds that are built for pro am 5v5. It’s honestly not fun. And imagine getting a AI on your team and having to play against a 5 stack team in 92u rec. if 92u rec was what everyone wants to make it seem like, ppl would be running around with .75w+ in rec all the time but the amount of teams of 5 is really killing it
To be fair I play both lil rec and big rec, I even take a 92 under player into big rec sometimes…. But to be honest it’s more comp games in lil rec than big rec
I’m competitive on 2k I have a 90+ win percentage in every game mode and I play pro am with a 84. I play my 92 build in all modes.. but when I play rec I go SOLO. So therefore I play 92 under just because I can control the game more. I rather score 40 to win by 3 than score 25 and lose by 36 because of old heads thinking they know what they doing in 92+
Y’all understand with squads and no squads the only way someone could play in 92 is if all 8-10 players were doing the same thing. If you go in at 92 and your friends go in at 93 then you’ll go to regular rec….but if you go in at 92 u you are playing against like minded players and playing against others doing the same. Small fraction of the population they go in with 5 and all are brand new builds….but that’s not a high % lol
But the other team is also under 93 and all 5 players have to be under 93….so if they are squads they doing the same thing bro. How many squads going in all under 93?? More likely 3-4 of them would actually be new builds… 2k23 w no squads door I’d agree
anytime I make a new build and I'm stuck at an 89-90 and im in 92 and under I feel dirty I never play with a squad but still the games are almost always the blowout you might get the odd close game but 8/10 the other team just ends up backing out I can't have fun in 92 and under
What they should do is make a Rec where you can't play Zone. If you do it's illegal defense - 1 Free Throw...there are so many issues with what could be a great game, but, it starts with the community not being as Toxic as it currently is
@@ImChrisJones92 the majority of the community don’t even know how to play zone so probably not but you can’t make zone illegal that’s literally basketball
I have made more than 20 builds this year so I end up in 92 under a lot but some people that I play with only wanna play “bum rec aka 92 and under” I’m not the best 2k player but I like some competition and not just easy blow out ws. Honestly tho it’s more sweats in 92 and under than it is in regular rec.. kinda sucks for somebody who has a low overall and go against these type people who live in there. It is fun to hop on solo on a build that’s 92 and run with the random cuz I feel like that’s fair cuz we are on the same team but we know how random teammates can be
Unironically this is me lol. I play with a few groups. But the group I usually play with wants to play 92s. And yes there's usually better teams in 92s. Well...relative to the squad I'm on
@@ImChrisJones92 yeah I agree , I’m just be trying to enjoy the game and have fun with my friends and here come the Walmart comp pro-am teams playing zone and everyone got a 91 steal and above 🤦🏾♂️ it’s sad just go to pro-am with all that
Honestly you made sum good points but 2k has to do btter match making maybe you cant come in rec until your a 75-82. Also people quit out lobby till they find the best squad possible would u stay nd play wit a trash team? upgraded my 92 to 97 this season after 2 seasons of working on my playstyle and its good players in 93 nd up but had more competition in under 92 cause thats where the veteran players are tryna spam wins
Ultimately it always comes down to 2k. But what I’m trying to get folks to see , is that if 2k has to intervene you won’t like it because they’re going to bring the hammer down .
lol it’s not though. You break a zone feeding inside to your big.😂 it’s called an inside out offense. But then again these guys think basketball strategies and fundamentals don’t work in 2k. It’s fine I’ll just be down here eating kick outs and drop stepping kids into my eighties. 😂😂😂
@@phouleSk8sfor you it’s not. I wholeheartedly agree with you about it’s supposed to be easy, but there are soooooooo many people who “watch” basketball and don’t know how to “play” basketball. I’m glad you have IQ because there are so many undisciplined kids and adults that’s on the game.
I be running into 99s at 90 also the matchmaking system is stupid gota have multiple builds and random rec errytime i use my center im put with nothin but big men when i use my small notgin but smalls
Thrn theather usually is all left righters or usin the steezo cheese. 2k yet to take away the cheesy spams for dribbling technically the yet to take away rim running
And I’m talking about dribbling and 92 under /up. I have 3 pgs one is a 99 for example The two 92s I play big rec with my pg has a 74 lay (60) 62 vertical (37) and a 79 middy (72) and a 60 close shot (35) and a 30 out or 71 perimeter d I don’t think there’s a need to upgrade for close shot, vertical is only attached to speed when making a build, so 92 speed brings vertical up… thinks like this when making a build just hurt the entire community 🥲🥲 I’m not paying 120k for 7 overalls of strictly not my play style on a 6’3 point guard
This year they made 92 and under not even matter anymore. All of my builds are above 93 except 1. There is no difference in skill between the tiers because once you hit a 92 and max out your badges, your player can no longer get better. The rest of the attributes are are in skills that aren't even worth upgrading at least in my builds they are. If my attributes max out at 50 or lower because 2k made me raise things idc about
@@ImChrisJones92 why would I waste that vc upgrading my attributes IDC about? Didnt I also just say all of my builds except 1 are above the threshold? Anything over 92/93 range is a waste. You waste like 90k VC going from 92 to 99 and if you think your player is better at 99 you're lying to yourself. Upgrading those attributes to 40-50 range is to stroke your ego, not make your player better
@@EddiePReacts isn't staying at 92 and under to beat worse and new players than yourself also stroking your ego? I agree your player isn't getting significantly better from 92-99 but im not sure why you'd stay in 92 and under unless you're in EU and queue times are long or you haven't got VC
@@DRandR1productionz no. I play random rec. It don't matter your overall most people simply suck at this game. Idk how youre leaping over the fact that most of my builds are over the threshold. You cannot skip over that point and argue a stance as if I'm staying below 92 beating on bums. If you think there's a huge diff between your build at 92 and 99 you're lying to yourself. 92/93 is the sweet spot depending on your build and you can stop wasting VC on that build. Answer why would I upgrade the attributes that aren't going to be good anyways? Let me upgrade my rebound to 30, my close shot to 50, and my blocking to 45 so I can get a 99.
@@DRandR1productionz and even on my builds above 92, they're all sitting right at 93. I go against 99s and demolish them. Tht last stretch of your build is useless. My big has had more 20 point 30 rebound games than I've ever had since 2k introduced rec centers. 92-99 is a finesse and 2k getting over. Theres barely any reason to go over 92 and there's probably NO reason to go over 93.
I already ranted about pgs who post up the entire of the game with a PG. But he can be countered by asking someone bigger and stronger to guard him. A team of 92s playing against a team of 70s and 80s are the scummiest teams ever
Dealing with a 99 3pt shot hunter in rec is ridiculously easy. Maybe 2 out of 10 in the rec are hard to stop. They won’t L2 cancel or anything fancy, they’ll do the Jamal Murray behind the back till they run out of stamina. Staying at 92 and under rec on purpose, in June, is just nasty work.
Now if you were talking and a high slashing and a high shooting 90 rating then yeah I’d understand cause it’s a player that requires 100% of the attention lol
@@jakimmixon1461 well i was just talking about the dribble spam with a glitch UA-cam jumper…I can play ups it’s just not fun if the pg on ether team is playing like a nerd
This video is spot on. I just said the other day that 2k has surpassed COD as the most toxic community. And if you play SOLO REC....OMG it is by far the most Toxic shit you'll experience short of going to a Trump rally.
If that was the case , then this video wouldn’t have been made . Given the fact that there is a PROVEN difference between 92 and under and 92 and over shows that individuals take ADVANTAGE of DISADVANTAGED players .
If you’re not playing up to par why should you keep it ? If I paid for producing 100 albums , you think you deserve the same amount of pay, while only producing 50?
@@ImChrisJones92 I think it’s just a turn off for bad players, and if course us good ones are annoyed that we went down from a lose, especially if it ain’t our fault we lost. Most times in 2k it’s never a team sport to everyone. So many reasons more but overall I’d say it’s just a turn off for a player who isn’t good and wants to achieve 97 or 99 to be like Lebron or Jordan or Kobe Shaq etc.
I feel what you're saying but I disagree. 2K allows anyone to create a 60 OVR and walk into to rec, the park and community events to completely SELL EVERYONE THEY PLAY WITH. I get it, it's pay to play but even if you have a full 99 squad you'll still get 93 OVR players who can't beat a zone which is elementary basketball. Trash players exist everywhere and making every build you create 99 is a waste of money and time to still keep playing against bums bro. There are 99 OVR bums and you probably know a few personally.
@@ImChrisJones92 no bro I’m saying why waste ur vc at all? Keep it at 92 the 99 aren’t even 99 they’re like an 82 fuck that I’m not supporting 2k plus my favorite thing to do is to play on my 92 offensive heavy in 93 and up rec with my full squad.
@@ImChrisJones92 92 and under rec more realistic everyone has a hole in their game. Bottom line players like u need to relax. Welcome to the internet ur always gonna find someone better than u: just relax enjoy the game and keep losing. I dropped from a 80 win to a 60 win and I’m still enjoying the game it’s okay to be mediocre at something. It’s not okay to be delusional
youtube recommended me your video. But let me tell u why u wasted your time Making this. Why do you care so much about if someone plays 92 and under ? People get on the game to play how they like and its more less skilled people playing high rec because they think if they are 99 its make them individuallly better when for some people it does but for most it doesn't Ive beaten so many 99s at a 90 or below overall In rec, park, 1s court, and in stage. The scum players are the ones who run zone in rec instead of going to pro am. Rec is more for casual players anyway but whether u 92 and up u will face terribe ppl at the game and u will face as u called them the pro am Rejects. This game is bad as a whole and your angle is cool but also just know 2k may never upgrade your build automatic or go back to the earning 99 threshold it's better for them to charge u to upgrade your build. The worst 2k players are the ones who are dependent on exploits or advantages or the ones who sell on purpose or the ballhogs lol 92 and under doesn't affect 2k enough for them to care but they need to fix the rec and grading system and maybe even put an overall system to balance things but no matter what overall its always someone who is more skilled playing with lesser attributes than the next hence why in the boot camp event some Ppl shine and some don't but I wish u success man
@@ImChrisJones92 respect for taking criticism and tbh u missed something you couldve said in this video. The other biggest scums are the one who use zens and the ones who use the record glitch where they close app or unplug ethernet cord before game is over and don't get a loss on their record
Only bad points in this video is saying if you have 5 you’re not allowed to play rec. Doesn’t make much sense to be forced to play a game mode because I have 4 other friends that want to play. 92 and under has been a thing in 2K since 2K20 and I don’t see it being removed anytime soon. You can max badges at an 85 let alone a 99 so that point isn’t even relevant. I don’t have a single build at 99 but there’s some builds that don’t get a benefit going past 90. If they add something you don’t care to adapt to it doesn’t make you bad I just don’t care lol.
@@SmittyCity15I wish everyone could agree on that. Idk how the squads rec works, but if you can play as a whole 5 and run a zone against a random team, that’s bullshit
@@AiirxGeordan that’s the thing, squads rec is squad vs squad and no decent team even runs zone anymore this isn’t 2020. If you’re losing to zone in this era of 2K I think you guys are just bad at beating a zone. Only way it’s getting difficult is if you only go in to rec with 2 or 3 and the other guys don’t know how to beat it.
Y’all complain about the game year in and year out just play it every year still does no good to complain so much , grown ass men, I tell my son what is the point of complaining about shit you can’t control worry about what you can control , what’s the point of worrying about shit you can’t control you’ll drive yourself crazy. You gotta let shit be what it is plain and simple
2k match making is ass. That’s why. 92 and under isn’t a problem because it costs money to upgrade these builds. If 2k fixed match making it wouldn’t matter but they haven’t
With all the games you play at 92 and under , you have the vc to upgrade your player , but yall spend it on clothes that you ain’t go see or boosts that you ain’t go use .
@@ImChrisJones92 nah the clothes are OD. Plus we’re talking about rec. Every season if there’s an animation you want but can’t get because of the bs thresholds you’re forced to make a new build just to get that. No point in upgrading all the way to 99 especially if you don’t spend money on vc just to make a new build because you’re bored and want to try new animations. I understand your take tho. Playing full purple 92 and under pro am comp teams is a horrible experience even when you’re partied up
@@ImChrisJones92 nah the clothes are OD. Plus we’re talking about rec. Every season if there’s an animation you want but can’t get because of the bs thresholds you’re forced to make a new build just to get that. No point in upgrading all the way to 99 especially if you don’t spend money on vc just to make a new build because you’re bored and want to try new animations. I understand your take tho. Playing full purple 92 and under pro am comp teams is a horrible experience even when you’re partied up
The amount of toxic people, sellouts, and sweats in rec has turned me into strictly a theater player. Its no fun going into random rec because its like 2k gives you the worst teammates and if you dont have a full 5 dont even bother going into squads 😂
The trick to squads is having 4 and using the A.I
Feel the same way. I primarily play in starting 5 if my squad isn't playing.
Playin theater hella then goin to random rec is crazy it’s chaos in the paint 24/7
Loading up rec with my friends on new builds between 70-80 ovr and playing 5 purple 92 ovrs with pro am lineups and playing zone gotta be the saddest shit of all time. Those people gotta be the biggest losers I’ve ever seen on a video game.
I agree 110%
And they talk so much shit so times it throws you off your game because they start talking shit and they already ass
One of the biggest problems with 2K is literally the people that play it. Not enough people even talk about it. It's crazy. They'll do literally anything in order to win. Whether abusing certain glitches within the game or just outright cheating themselves smh.
I have talked about this , check out other videos
@@ImChrisJones92 oh yea. I was giving you your props. You got a sub from me bro 💯
I have 92 ad under and 93 and above players. I've played more reject pro am teams in 92 and under. They realistically should add a casual rec with lower rep, for people who just want to chill and have fun; but whatever 2k does, the community will find a way to ruin it.
This is the one of the worst communities to ever exist
@@ImChrisJones92 lol an I'm talking about straight 2-3, with 2 locks at the top of the zone and the point guard hiding corner. You can usually hang around for a few but a few missed shots and a few turnovers and you're down 15. Shit..I've even played against a zen user in low level rec.
The real issue is squads and ransoms are separate.
I always clamored for the random rec to be separate but not like this.
You can’t even get one if you walk In with 4 it shouldn’t have been like that ever.
Walking in with 3 most definitely will get you one ai still because nobody wants to run 2 mans anymore in the full squads.
I use to run 2-3 mans all the time in the randoms and go crazyyyyyyyy.
Now it’s Legit not physically possible because as soon as it’s you and one homie your playing 80% wins who shoot 70% with a random rec squad 😂
@@UhhAhzulFACTS!
@@mckethannottage8852sheesh thats why it was offense heavy point guarding me at the corner.. didnt know they were a sort of a squad.
A full team of 92 is like a high school varsity team going into a freshman gym class where none of the freshmen played with each other ever.
I always enjoy when another smart human comments on my video .
Thank you 🙏🏾
@@ImChrisJones92 it's crazy people tryna justify why they do it too.
@@Ghostkilla773 wouldn’t both teams need to have a full squad of under 93 to be matched up with another team of all under 93? How many times have you actually gone into squad rec and every one on your team just made a new build?
@@Ghostkilla773Ik I’m toxic when I do it. Usually do troll lineups, like all bigs or sum. Very fun
@gsherman44 no you don't. It can happen though. But there are people who just takes the character online after just making them (with no badges, or guys who been grinding Mycareer and go to rec with their build.
Plus a full team of 92 versus a bunch of Randoms happens way more if you have multiple creators making vids about it.
We need a way stricter IQ grade out system that match makes off IQ not off rep or overall. Maybe then we can populate a community of some people that choose to play the game RIGHT!
Cod got sbmm and no one likes that
Sbmm in 2k would dig its grave even deeper
Based on shooting % is easier
@@LiamVolb no, you’d have new builds With high shooting stats bc they haven’t shot many shots and they’ll match up with similar playets
Grand Turismo and Forza motorsport have systems in place. Like a personal grade or whatever. The cleaner your races are you match up with other people that have similar grades. Then you actually have races instead of crashing simulators. 2k can do something like that. You foul a lot. Take bad shots. Hold the ball to long etc. your community grade goes down. Then you only play with people that are like you. Then the people who roleplay and have some actual pride in their game, get matched with similar people
Yeah, the game with be able to grade "IQ". Nah, you have a level rank that goes up or down with wins and losses, not tied to each built character but for each user account across all builds. Easy as that. Eventually the bums will fall to the bottom of the barrel.
I used to play my career a lot in the older games but now it is just boring and a waste of time. Playing online is annoying as hell. players missing open assists, shooting bad shots, dribbling way too long, and god forbid the game would randomly make your jumpshot not work you need 5 things just to be able to shot in park god forbid if the game lags.
Rec is more of a 5v5 1v1 like a pickup basketball game where proam u need actual team type of builds nd people who can play together. Biggest problem in the rec tho is a ton of bums who have egos and will throw games if it’s not an online mycareer game for them
When they could literally go play starting 5 mode and keep the toxicity to themselves
I just played with some guy who only passed the ball between the 3 of them, one guy shot 2-11 another shot 1-13 and the other was 2-7 in the paint. Me and my boy was both 2-2 with A- grades only time we touched the ball is if we stole it, they would even call timeputs when we got it until we were out of timeouts. We lost that game like 140-30, andcone of them messaged me to delete the game🧐
2k community is soo weird. They hate competition, but want to dominate everyone in their way, and will do whatever it takes, as long as theres no competition. Those losers love to call better players no lives or sweats, yet theyre trying everything in their power to look like a sweat by controlling their wins
I just can't bring myself to primarily play down there. I understand the concept, but I'd rather play with my full build and match up against everyone, than have a 92 and beat up on 70 overalls. It's not fun to me.
The whole goal of gaming is test your skills against all types of competition.
Imagine if 2k implemented real SBMM , the community would be in uproar
@@ImChrisJones92the matchmaking is already dog shit, we do not need that.
@@ImChrisJones92Sbmm is garbage in every video game the ppl in here suck but let’s not nuke the whole game like over 1 mode
Iron sharpens iron
2k need to remove that banner completely scum bags create superteams based off this bs
I definitely feel like 2k should remove the feature entirely
Rec is broken. I get players who shoot 1/12 then the other side got 3 shooters 5/5
There’s a lot of punk ass behavior in 2K lately. It’s like everybody’s afraid of a challenge and worried only about their damn win percentage smh.
I average 12 boards 9 assists on 4 points bc they never pass big man the ball
for most part a build at 92 is mostly complete, depending on the build there's usually attributes that are worthless, like close shot on a pg that gets to a 61 or rebound that gets to a 45 you dont really need and dont need to spend the vc on. But that's the bad part is that you can have a complete build going against 75 overalls. They need to make the gap smaller at like around a 85
Even if they did , there would be people who stay at 85 just to get a win
If that’s the case you wouldn’t be able to get to 99 the highest overall would just be 92 lmao
@@Cap_One__ Obviously didn’t read the whole message
@@ImChrisJones92 lol you clearly just got here. Bro rec used to be 85 OVR min with a season solo on all star minimum difficulty. It was a quest like gym rat. You had to actually earn it. Rec used to be way way way different.
Fr people who make group post for 92 and under are ass. Be the first ones to bring up win percent against no comp smh
I didn’t even want to start exposing that. I have screenshots of groups
@@ImChrisJones92yup always says looking for -- for bum rec
The fact that 2k has two different doors for random and squad rec but will still queue you up against full team in random rec. match making needs a new system
That’s because bozos will line up at the no squad door and hit the button at the same time to get into the same lobby…
@@ImChrisJones92 they put the game out on game pass months ago. It’s been so bad since
I feel like 93 and over rec has a worse pool of players. Like if I load into a game and my teammate is a 99 ovr who can’t shoot or play defense and he’s getting cooked by a 99 ovr, id rather have the 85 ovr who can shoot. I would max out my build if the game had better match making because im tired of getting 99 ovr bums on my team
It don’t matter what your ovr is because the is game is full of bums . But we both know the type of competition that is sitting in 92 and under .
92 and under is worse. 92 is picking on new created players who probably wont even be 80 overall or just dont have most badges maxed out. Theyre basically boosting their stats and records.
Its like a high school varsity team going into a Freshmen gym class, and the Freshmen picking a random 5 to make a team and dont know what their skills are.
@@Ghostkilla773honestly idc if I’m 87 ovr going up against a 92 ovr. They gonna get cooked by ppl like me because I’m good enough to get a bucket and know how to win. 92 and up is sometimes confusing and demoralizing cause I see a bit of sorry ppl doing too much and still suck while being at their rating.
I have a 99 overall build that I avg 32 on 71 72 splits and a 92 overall 2 way build with no finishing that I avg 36 ppg on 75 75 splits and let me tell u there is absolutely no difference there’s bums in 92 n under n bums in 93 n over me personally I didn’t know 92 and under was a thing the only reason I ain’t upgrade my build fully is because it’s a waste of vc because the things left to upgrade are insignificant but I will say the players are slightly better in 93 n up but not by much tbh😭
I go into 92 and under dont get passed to while people miss and when im in 93 and over i dont get passed to and they hit so gameplay never changes
Which shows you the bigger problem……
The community itself
@@ImChrisJones92 mhm everyone has an ego and almost no one is able to hear they can't shoot and not get toxic
If u play Solo rec It’s almost dumb to go past 92. Plenty of times I went above and get the worst teammates u could imagine. Meanwhile the natural nature of this toxic community stays at 92 for the competitive advantage. Meaning I’ll have better teammates and the other team will be competitive aswell. Because everyone’s doing it except the extreme casuals who shouldn’t even play online if ur not at least a 90. (Go grind ur build before u play with other people). Or play 1v1 theatre.
I feel the opposite. I'm not goin solo in 92 and under. Too many times I've loaded in wit 60s and 70s unable to back out. That's a complete waste of time. I bring my best builds to solos
See the thing is i play both high rec(93 plus) and low rec (92-low) but i feel like playing high rec i have to deal with even worse players then low rec😭
Probably because all the “good” players are roaming in the lower tiers to feast on the weak .
@@ImChrisJones92 like there should be no excuse to have a 99 overall build with a 90 plus three pointer shooting 2/13😭😭😭
@@fatheranti616I swear it’s retarded at times. But it’s inevitable at this point tbh
Tbh. I’m a casual player and I purposely stay in low rec, (less than 92), because I have so much going on in my life and I just wanna get on the game every now and then for an hour or two to relax and enjoy my time. Honestly I see nothing wrong with that, and it’s not like I’m out here averaging 50 on low rec either. I think that’s probably a lot of that demographic too
Once again , you playing in low rec isn’t my issue . It’s when people like you , get a team of other like you , and then implement high rec or pro am tactics to your game .
Na g I’m super casual you can have fun in all rec my highest build is 96 lowest 92 can be competitive in both as long as team has basic Iq
@@ericmcmurren6296 yea but I play random rec, and teams be tripping bruh🤣
You got me sooo weakkkkk. 😅 love this bro. I feel you.
I only play 92 and under on new builds that I’m testing. I got a Paul George and a Kobe Build I made to fit my playstyle and I use them for fun and to warm up. When I actually want to hop on Rec with a squad and dominate I get on my 99 Bol Bol build, my 95 D-Wade or my 95 Tracy McGrady. The concept of having under 92 lobbies is great for casuals, but like you said in terms of actual functionality of it, it’s ass because of all the sweats that just want weak competition because they can’t handles getting their asses busted in good lobbies
See? You understand what I’m saying
I’m more of a realistic dribbler. But I get why ppl use the same Sigs. They make dribbling worse and worse every year. That wall cross over, murry btb, etc. all exploited because they the ones that work the most consistently. Simple stuff like simple hezi speed boost same side doesn’t work
and half the time you do a hesi speed boost you get ripped anyway
Hesi speedboost to the same side doesn’t work no more? lmao what are you saying
Yall sleep the hesi is how i score every time u have to time the hesi n speed boost
Great Video Chris! Me and my friends talk about this every time we’re on 2k. It’s just 2-3 of us and we run into squads of 5 in the rec all the time running zone. It’s so annoying! Not to mention they all have a 91 steal rating or higher so they sit zone and just spam the square or x button all game. They need to get rid of squad rec asap!
That may happen just because of the abuse of it
I feel the zone should be penalized if ran for an extended period of time. I hate zone out takes the fun out of the game. Go learn to play defense you know?
@@Skedoosh99you do know zone is a defense in the nba and other sports. We need bigger courts
Lol y’all wanted squad and solo rec to be separated and y’all still complaining when we got it. I’m not a fan of folks who stay in zone all day tho
@@demonNthesn0w oh hell yeah small courts make everyone look like deion Sanders. 2k has flawed mechanics, and Court size. We’re supposed to be nba players and I can’t make a proper pass to someone standing 3 feet from me. Zone isn’t hard to beat, but not everybody knows how to play basketball.
I’ve been saying’24 is about IQ and those without it bail out…
This is the worst 2k lmaoo it takes no IQ to play this
All the black plates say different…lol
@@copasetiqcee7945 bro I have an 90 wp in park and pro am but got a black plate cause I lagged out so that Dosent mean anything majority of the time
Lol…Defend the blk plates!!
I’m sure your case is different from the rest of the community.
Don’t forget they had to dumb the game down because of all the complaining about how hard shooting was at launch.
@@copasetiqcee7945 not defending the black plates just saying that every black plate ain't the same lol
I noticed this trend happen in like 2K20, went back to Play Now Online and haven’t looked back.
On the other side of the argument the matchmaking in ProAm is god awful. I play it when I have 5 of course but as a bronze team we have played the 2nd ranked team in the world, 26th ranked team in the world, and the 63rd ranked team in the world all in the same week. We have a positive record but that shit is annoying because they dance behind screens more than any thing I’ve ever seen.
Only fix is to reduce the amount of game modes. Make them lobby matchmaking with 0-100 ranking. Rank goes up or down with wins and losses. Eventually, the cream will rise to the top and the bums will fall to the bottom. Easy as that. Also, 92 and under random is fine, but 92 and under squads is ridiculous, as you noted. Misses the whole point.
It’s so refreshing to come across people like yourself , that understand the whole concept of what I’m saying .
The crowd of “ It’s more competition in low rec than it is in high rec “… are exactly what’s wrong with the community.
92 and under squad is crazy, I play w my girlfriend and every 2/3 games is a full team of purple running zone
The guys who had the game since september and are sitting in 92 and under rec are truly buns bc they scared are real comp😂😂😂 they are jus pathetic Literally they are purple plates off of playing bums bc they wanna take the easy way out
See? You get it .
Agree, i can’t stand paying with lower overalls
Being a person that plays 92 and under and 93 and above rec and i play pro am in my experience the randoms in both bad at times but in 92 under while i you claim we are scum its more about just hopping on and playing with a 3 stack or 2 stack just getting runs in i mainly go above when i have a full 5. 92 rec for me is just to get runs in i get better randoms in 92 rec than above cause for the most part its a big and a guard thats just trying to 2 man the entire game im not trying to sit there and watch a million screens be set and watch the pg go 5/25 from the field randoms in above 92 play like theyre the only ones on the court while in my experience randoms in 92 and under are more willing passing the ball and 9/10 outta in when you play above its always a 5 stack thats runs a zone and P&R and im not trying to sweat in rec if i dont have a full 5 thats what i play pro am for
You see how your point is about playing with randoms is 92 and under ?
My point is pointing to the fact there are full teams of five that sit in that mode to feed off of other players that are in YOUR predicament.
Microtransactions Ruined the game for me. After they Nerfed Microtransastions in 2k17, it took too long to upgrade a player for me. I was patched. Cost too much time / money for me.
Bro l been playing as 92 this whole year no reason to be 99 anymore
Miss me with that Bs . Go to 93 .
Bro I just scored 60 only missing 5 because my SG AND SF went 0 / 5 and C wasn't shooting... they kept getting in the way and it wasn't until I creeped up to 6 points that they tried but it was too late
I’m sorry
I’m subscribing!!! Because you ain’t lying my real life friends got mad because I brought my 96 overall and they was tryna play 92 and under rec and I asked them aint we at the end of the year wtf yall create the player for if you not gonna see it at its fullest potential. And just the other day my boy said he ain’t played 2k since 2k19 and I str8 up told him if you trash just say that lmao because he talkin bout “it’s the best decision I ever made” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Technically it is the best decision he’s ever made for himself .
He no longer has to deal with being called trash by people better/smarter than him also, he get to leave the worst community to ever exist.
Ur friend isn’t wrong. Sometimes I wished I never touched this game or myteam imo
word bro. 2-3 zone in 92 and under Rec is Insaneeeee 😂
Nah we don’t need that moving attribute bull anymore, they just need a skill based matchmaking. I stay in 92 u til my player can go 97 and it’s all good
my 92 and under games are alot of times harder than 93 and above.
It really makes no difference which "mode" i play.
So why stay at 92 if it doesn’t make a difference?
@@ImChrisJones92 i don't, i am not 93 yet my guy
I Dont think 92 and under is the problem. The problem is that 4/5 man squads have a HUGE advantage over 2/3 man squads. I never run a full 5, usually 2/3 of us. Whether we in 99 or 92 rec you most likeley playing a full squad, and it turns into 2v3v5. They just need to separate full squads from incomplete squads.
I agree
@EliteRolePlayer also, I can't speak for all but as a casual the main draw for 92under is that 92 builds cost like $40 less than 99 builds. My favorite thing to do in the game is create and test new and different builds so that $40/build adds up quick when I'm making 10+ builds throughout the year.
Yooo I was JUST TALKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF THE REC! Its funny you brought that up! Great video chris! 🔥💯💪
With the way this scumbag community operates, they don’t deserve rec
@@ImChrisJones92 I was more on the fence of, maybe it would help with latency cuz I don't think the city is going nowhere so one less game mode would contribute to the betterment of the game but I see whatcha saying also 😂😂
Shit I refuse to play park for how terrible the mode is so what would you put instead of rec for people who are only fans of 5v5 but not have a full squad for pro am or even want to play sweaty people in pro an
@@smb_dirtydan8573 That's where I was conflicted at. I was talking to someone about it and honestly I don't have an answer, I just brought it up because he mentioned it in the video but I feel where youre coming from fasho.
Crazy cuz i nvr even knew this was a thing, i did kinda realize the moment i got to 90 i aint see no players above 92 even tho i see 99 all over the city. Seeing this video actually made me aware of this 92 and under servers. Me personally i just upgraded my player as i want to use my player to the max potential and have rating thresholds i want to experience using. I wish others would just upgrade as well but can see why ppl keep a 92 under build. The quality in the higher rec games are good because now i dnt have to worry of getting a 60 overall teammate but seems to take much longer to get into games. In 92 and under id wait max 5 min to get into game due to the lobby hoppers but at 93 and up the lobby hopping is even worse. Sometimes i get in game early but ive waited 10-20 minutes for a game now. If playing late ive falled asleep to wake up with the game starting few possessions into the game lol
The reason why , it’s take longer to find games at 93 and higher is because everyone is running to 92 and under to feast on weak opponents.
They dont need to remove rec..they just need to add a rec mode where casuals just go against ais(not nba teams or the street courts) same rec concept just vs all ais…
This is interesting
My friends and I personally stay at 92 cause we play casual and don’t like to sweat on the game all the time which we would in 93 & up. We just play for fun but God damn do I hate going against pro am wannabe teams in the rec when I’m just trying to have fun and chill😭
They all posses your mentality and don’t even realize they are their own worst anymore .
The very thing some of these people create , destroys them.
When they control your overall it was really a grind to get to a 99 overall they should bring that back fr
It was better when athletic attributes were attached to overall
The real finesse is making your 92 build a “92.9” (technically a 93), and still being in 92 and under rec. Not gonna lie…I have a couple of 92.9 just to take advantage of that. 😂
Why ?
@@ImChrisJones92 just to see if I could get an advantage😂. Bro you gotta realize, you run with a squad that all have very very high basketball IG.
A lot of us gotta deal with randoms who don’t understand basketball or much of anything in life. We need help. 😂
Ngl 93 up players suck its just bots with a higher ovr i played 92 and below and honestly there's more sweaty
You see the problem?
How is 92 and under more sweaty than 93 and up ?
That would mean , there are sweatier players , staying below 93 in hopes to run into weaker competition to get easier wins .
But if more and more teams begin to do that then what do you think is going to happen?
Stay woke …
I agree however I do keep my guy 92 under till I reach like 95-96 ovr so I can upgrade pretty much everything I need on the build because you can’t always upgrade everything you need at 93
At least you upgrade
I agree with you tho
That 92 under mindset is lame
Those who do it will justify their actions until it’s taken away
Me and my boy play 92 and under rec with 90-92 usually newer builds, but those builds can all play up in above 92 rec. the problem with 92 and rec is the HOF players with 92 builds that are built for pro am 5v5. It’s honestly not fun. And imagine getting a AI on your team and having to play against a 5 stack team in 92u rec. if 92u rec was what everyone wants to make it seem like, ppl would be running around with .75w+ in rec all the time but the amount of teams of 5 is really killing it
You see , you get it .
How about the guys who sleep behind screens and try to walk to the rim
Nobody talk about how u can try n squad up wit 1 friend and they put you against a full 5 with 3 people on your team playing against you too
That is the random experience, that I experience when I play 2k .. sometimes have to play 3 vs 7 .
To be fair I play both lil rec and big rec, I even take a 92 under player into big rec sometimes…. But to be honest it’s more comp games in lil rec than big rec
That’s the entire issue I have and the point of the video . Do you see the problem?
I’m competitive on 2k I have a 90+ win percentage in every game mode and I play pro am with a 84. I play my 92 build in all modes.. but when I play rec I go SOLO. So therefore I play 92 under just because I can control the game more. I rather score 40 to win by 3 than score 25 and lose by 36 because of old heads thinking they know what they doing in 92+
Did you just hear yourself ? “ When I go to rec I play solo” .
This video doesn’t apply to you.
I was rushing to upgrade my builds to avoid 92 and under rec its so toxic in there 😂
See ? And very few people realize that’s an issue
@@ImChrisJones92 yeah I agree bro it's a big issue with 2k
2K needs to add SBMM i never understand why games don’t implement this in their games
Because this community would cause such an uproar, they’ll probably lose money and content creators abuse the game the way that I’m discussing
Y’all understand with squads and no squads the only way someone could play in 92 is if all 8-10 players were doing the same thing. If you go in at 92 and your friends go in at 93 then you’ll go to regular rec….but if you go in at 92 u you are playing against like minded players and playing against others doing the same. Small fraction of the population they go in with 5 and all are brand new builds….but that’s not a high % lol
I know that. This is for those , who don’t have new players , and who purposely keep their players at 92 to play against weaker opponents.
But the other team is also under 93 and all 5 players have to be under 93….so if they are squads they doing the same thing bro. How many squads going in all under 93?? More likely 3-4 of them would actually be new builds… 2k23 w no squads door I’d agree
anytime I make a new build and I'm stuck at an 89-90 and im in 92 and under I feel dirty I never play with a squad but still the games are almost always the blowout you might get the odd close game but 8/10 the other team just ends up backing out I can't have fun in 92 and under
Meanwhile , there’s a group of individuals who purposely play that mode every time they load up the game .
@@ImChrisJones92 only issue I have is that in EU servers unless you're playing at peak times I find it hard to find games at 92+ in random rec
What they should do is make a Rec where you can't play Zone. If you do it's illegal defense - 1 Free Throw...there are so many issues with what could be a great game, but, it starts with the community not being as Toxic as it currently is
lol bro what how you gon make it illegal to play zone
I would like to know if the majority of the community know why the zone was created and what it was created to stop.
@@ImChrisJones92 the majority of the community don’t even know how to play zone so probably not but you can’t make zone illegal that’s literally basketball
I was with you 100000% until the 13 minute mark when you start talking about getting rid of the REC
It’s something that 2k might do because of the toxicity surrounding it .
I’m just prepping myself now
I have made more than 20 builds this year so I end up in 92 under a lot but some people that I play with only wanna play “bum rec aka 92 and under” I’m not the best 2k player but I like some competition and not just easy blow out ws. Honestly tho it’s more sweats in 92 and under than it is in regular rec.. kinda sucks for somebody who has a low overall and go against these type people who live in there. It is fun to hop on solo on a build that’s 92 and run with the random cuz I feel like that’s fair cuz we are on the same team but we know how random teammates can be
The fact that you just stated there is more sweats in 92 and under , is the problem.
Unironically this is me lol. I play with a few groups. But the group I usually play with wants to play 92s. And yes there's usually better teams in 92s. Well...relative to the squad I'm on
Playing zone in the rec be crazy to me 💯
It shouldn’t even be a thing, players should immediately get leave assignment and grade should go down quickly.
@@ImChrisJones92 yeah I agree , I’m just be trying to enjoy the game and have fun with my friends and here come the Walmart comp pro-am teams playing zone and everyone got a 91 steal and above 🤦🏾♂️ it’s sad just go to pro-am with all that
Honestly you made sum good points but 2k has to do btter match making maybe you cant come in rec until your a 75-82. Also people quit out lobby till they find the best squad possible would u stay nd play wit a trash team? upgraded my 92 to 97 this season after 2 seasons of working on my playstyle and its good players in 93 nd up but had more competition in under 92 cause thats where the veteran players are tryna spam wins
Ultimately it always comes down to 2k.
But what I’m trying to get folks to see , is that if 2k has to intervene you won’t like it because they’re going to bring the hammer down .
Played all that shit growing up, became an elden ring player fym.
I wonder why you became an Elden ring player .
The zone is deadly against bums sheesh
lol it’s not though. You break a zone feeding inside to your big.😂 it’s called an inside out offense. But then again these guys think basketball strategies and fundamentals don’t work in 2k. It’s fine I’ll just be down here eating kick outs and drop stepping kids into my eighties. 😂😂😂
@@phouleSk8sfor you it’s not. I wholeheartedly agree with you about it’s supposed to be easy, but there are soooooooo many people who “watch” basketball and don’t know how to “play” basketball. I’m glad you have IQ because there are so many undisciplined kids and adults that’s on the game.
@@Skedoosh99 they don't even watch games, just highlights 😭😭😭
@@fadeuhway3843 😭😭😆🤣 nothing but highlights!
I be running into 99s at 90 also the matchmaking system is stupid gota have multiple builds and random rec errytime i use my center im put with nothin but big men when i use my small notgin but smalls
Thrn theather usually is all left righters or usin the steezo cheese. 2k yet to take away the cheesy spams for dribbling technically the yet to take away rim running
They never will too many people use and abuse it .
I’m on both sides lol. Been iso for half. Decade and used screens in 16 19 and 21
And I’m talking about dribbling and 92 under /up.
I have 3 pgs one is a 99 for example
The two 92s I play big rec with my pg has a 74 lay (60) 62 vertical (37) and a 79 middy (72) and a 60 close shot (35) and a 30 out or 71 perimeter d
I don’t think there’s a need to upgrade for close shot, vertical is only attached to speed when making a build, so 92 speed brings vertical up… thinks like this when making a build just hurt the entire community 🥲🥲
I’m not paying 120k for 7 overalls of strictly not my play style on a 6’3 point guard
Facts! Great and also true statements. Respect ✊🏾🤛🏾
At least the call of duty community was always toxic trash, that's what i was there to rage at CoD and be civil else where
This year they made 92 and under not even matter anymore. All of my builds are above 93 except 1. There is no difference in skill between the tiers because once you hit a 92 and max out your badges, your player can no longer get better. The rest of the attributes are are in skills that aren't even worth upgrading at least in my builds they are. If my attributes max out at 50 or lower because 2k made me raise things idc about
So if there is no difference in skill , then max your player out and play the game .
@@ImChrisJones92 why would I waste that vc upgrading my attributes IDC about? Didnt I also just say all of my builds except 1 are above the threshold? Anything over 92/93 range is a waste. You waste like 90k VC going from 92 to 99 and if you think your player is better at 99 you're lying to yourself. Upgrading those attributes to 40-50 range is to stroke your ego, not make your player better
@@EddiePReacts isn't staying at 92 and under to beat worse and new players than yourself also stroking your ego? I agree your player isn't getting significantly better from 92-99 but im not sure why you'd stay in 92 and under unless you're in EU and queue times are long or you haven't got VC
@@DRandR1productionz no. I play random rec. It don't matter your overall most people simply suck at this game. Idk how youre leaping over the fact that most of my builds are over the threshold. You cannot skip over that point and argue a stance as if I'm staying below 92 beating on bums. If you think there's a huge diff between your build at 92 and 99 you're lying to yourself. 92/93 is the sweet spot depending on your build and you can stop wasting VC on that build. Answer why would I upgrade the attributes that aren't going to be good anyways? Let me upgrade my rebound to 30, my close shot to 50, and my blocking to 45 so I can get a 99.
@@DRandR1productionz and even on my builds above 92, they're all sitting right at 93. I go against 99s and demolish them. Tht last stretch of your build is useless. My big has had more 20 point 30 rebound games than I've ever had since 2k introduced rec centers. 92-99 is a finesse and 2k getting over. Theres barely any reason to go over 92 and there's probably NO reason to go over 93.
I have a 92 inside the arc Mastero. I went up against a level 40 HoF player man. Mind you i consider myself casual so i dont play the game often
Level 40 HOF 92 ovr player ?
If so , that’s what I’m talking about .
@@ImChrisJones92 averaging a smooth 17 and 10 too
Nothing more scummier than a post scorer placed at the 1 and a spot up lock in any 2s game mode
I already ranted about pgs who post up the entire of the game with a PG.
But he can be countered by asking someone bigger and stronger to guard him.
A team of 92s playing against a team of 70s and 80s are the scummiest teams ever
Hey bro if you ever want to run let’s hoop I like your realism and playstyle
For the sim heads under 92 is best because a dealing with a 99 3pt shot hunter is crazy
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the 2k community will literally say anything except admitting they’re not good at the game…
Dealing with a 99 3pt shot hunter in rec is ridiculously easy. Maybe 2 out of 10 in the rec are hard to stop. They won’t L2 cancel or anything fancy, they’ll do the Jamal Murray behind the back till they run out of stamina.
Staying at 92 and under rec on purpose, in June, is just nasty work.
Now if you were talking and a high slashing and a high shooting 90 rating then yeah I’d understand cause it’s a player that requires 100% of the attention lol
@@jakimmixon1461 well i was just talking about the dribble spam with a glitch UA-cam jumper…I can play ups it’s just not fun if the pg on ether team is playing like a nerd
This video is spot on. I just said the other day that 2k has surpassed COD as the most toxic community. And if you play SOLO REC....OMG it is by far the most Toxic shit you'll experience short of going to a Trump rally.
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bro is yappin on none
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So you’re one of them .
@@ImChrisJones92 he gotta be 😂
I keep my build at 92 until I’m able to upgrade him fully
Then this video doesn’t apply to you
I’m still goat high rep I feel like it do apply to me I just play random rec though I don’t have a squad
if everyone is 92 and under whats the problem its no advantage for anyone
If that was the case , then this video wouldn’t have been made . Given the fact that there is a PROVEN difference between 92 and under and 92 and over shows that individuals take ADVANTAGE of DISADVANTAGED players .
@@ImChrisJones92 i feel where you coming from gang but that applies to high rec to alot of bums in there i feel like its more comp in 92&under
I pride myself in defence on 2k😊
I miss 2k11 crew good times 🥲😊
I like my 99 build lol it's a big diff from 92 to 99 lol
They tell me it’s too expensive to be 99 yet they forget 92 can go to 93 and they still get the same rec as 99 .
sg been missing a lil too many wide open shots for me. and that ai was a fucking killer😂
no squads really ruined the game.
The community ruined the gaming experience. All it does is spew and promote toxicity . Very few creators in this space do the opposite.
You got a subscriber here buddy
Appreciate you
It was 2k19 where you had to earn your last 5 overalls. Shouldn’t have been able to lose them though.
If you’re not playing up to par why should you keep it ?
If I paid for producing 100 albums , you think you deserve the same amount of pay, while only producing 50?
@@ImChrisJones92 I think it’s just a turn off for bad players, and if course us good ones are annoyed that we went down from a lose, especially if it ain’t our fault we lost. Most times in 2k it’s never a team sport to everyone.
So many reasons more but overall I’d say it’s just a turn off for a player who isn’t good and wants to achieve 97 or 99 to be like Lebron or Jordan or Kobe Shaq etc.
I feel what you're saying but I disagree. 2K allows anyone to create a 60 OVR and walk into to rec, the park and community events to completely SELL EVERYONE THEY PLAY WITH. I get it, it's pay to play but even if you have a full 99 squad you'll still get 93 OVR players who can't beat a zone which is elementary basketball. Trash players exist everywhere and making every build you create 99 is a waste of money and time to still keep playing against bums bro. There are 99 OVR bums and you probably know a few personally.
2k is not completely unscathed .
But having a full team in the lowest form of rec , while using “comp” tactics is the whole point of this video.
@@ImChrisJones92 I agree but the problem is the skill gap, not 92 OVR campers.
Nahh ur wildin 92 under for me was always to save money why pay 150 for 1 build when I can get 2 more
So you don’t have vc to get to 93 , is that what’s you’re saying?
@@ImChrisJones92 no bro I’m saying why waste ur vc at all? Keep it at 92 the 99 aren’t even 99 they’re like an 82 fuck that I’m not supporting 2k plus my favorite thing to do is to play on my 92 offensive heavy in 93 and up rec with my full squad.
@@ImChrisJones92 92 and under rec more realistic everyone has a hole in their game. Bottom line players like u need to relax. Welcome to the internet ur always gonna find someone better than u: just relax enjoy the game and keep losing. I dropped from a 80 win to a 60 win and I’m still enjoying the game it’s okay to be mediocre at something. It’s not okay to be delusional
Bro it just less stressful playing at 92 overall
If you say so
Lol most 92 plays solo u said this suppose to be in the game this be in 2k for years
My 92 overall be killing dudes that’s 99, high perimeter and all that
You missed the context of this whole video . Please don’t leave comments unless you understand the context
@@ImChrisJones92 do it look like I specifically replied to you or others in the comments. Use your brain before replying
2k, GTA, COD = worst communities
YES
I don’t care bout ur overall give me the competition 😈
Apparently all the “competition “ is in low rec . So as long as your anywhere between a 60 and 92 , you’ll play all the “competition “
I play 92 and under because I find it more realistic but I have played 93 and over but the you face do it all type players
And I wish they just remove squad occasionally
Spamming 92 and under rec with a squad is a varsity team playing against JV team.
@@ImChrisJones92 I mean I also only play solo cause my friends don’t play 2k I agree with you though
😂 someone really made buddy mad.
You tell me where I lied
youtube recommended me your video. But let me tell u why u wasted your time Making this. Why do you care so much about if someone plays 92 and under ? People get on the game to play how they like and its more less skilled people playing high rec because they think if they are 99 its make them individuallly better when for some people it does but for most it doesn't Ive beaten so many 99s at a 90 or below overall In rec, park, 1s court, and in stage. The scum players are the ones who run zone in rec instead of going to pro am. Rec is more for casual players anyway but whether u 92 and up u will face terribe ppl at the game and u will face as u called them the pro am
Rejects. This game is bad as a whole and your angle is cool but also just know 2k may never upgrade your build automatic or go back to the earning 99 threshold it's better for them to charge u to upgrade your build. The worst 2k players are the ones who are dependent on exploits or advantages or the ones who sell on purpose or the ballhogs lol 92 and under doesn't affect 2k enough for them to care but they need to fix the rec and grading system and maybe even put an overall system to balance things but no matter what overall its always someone who is more skilled playing with lesser attributes than the next hence why in the boot camp event some Ppl shine and some don't but I wish u success man
If you’re not part of a 92 and under team , who plays zone , then this video doesn’t apply to you.
@@ImChrisJones92 respect for taking criticism and tbh u missed something you couldve said in this video. The other biggest scums are the one who use zens and the ones who use the record glitch where they close app or unplug ethernet cord before game is over and don't get a loss on their record
Only bad points in this video is saying if you have 5 you’re not allowed to play rec. Doesn’t make much sense to be forced to play a game mode because I have 4 other friends that want to play.
92 and under has been a thing in 2K since 2K20 and I don’t see it being removed anytime soon.
You can max badges at an 85 let alone a 99 so that point isn’t even relevant. I don’t have a single build at 99 but there’s some builds that don’t get a benefit going past 90.
If they add something you don’t care to adapt to it doesn’t make you bad I just don’t care lol.
Bud if you are playing zone in the rec, it’s time to play pro am 😂😂
@@SmittyCity15I wish everyone could agree on that. Idk how the squads rec works, but if you can play as a whole 5 and run a zone against a random team, that’s bullshit
@@SmittyCity15 I didn’t say anything about playing zone gang. Out of all I said that was the only thing that mattered to you lol
@@AiirxGeordan that’s the thing, squads rec is squad vs squad and no decent team even runs zone anymore this isn’t 2020. If you’re losing to zone in this era of 2K I think you guys are just bad at beating a zone. Only way it’s getting difficult is if you only go in to rec with 2 or 3 and the other guys don’t know how to beat it.
If you have 5 players why don’t you play pro am then ?
Y’all complain about the game year in and year out just play it every year still does no good to complain so much , grown ass men, I tell my son what is the point of complaining about shit you can’t control worry about what you can control , what’s the point of worrying about shit you can’t control you’ll drive yourself crazy. You gotta let shit be what it is plain and simple
What’s the point of responding to a video you don’t agree with ?
Remove me from your recommendations and continue to live your life .
@@ImChrisJones92 same reason dislike button is here 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️. What I said is facts
2k match making is ass. That’s why. 92 and under isn’t a problem because it costs money to upgrade these builds. If 2k fixed match making it wouldn’t matter but they haven’t
With all the games you play at 92 and under , you have the vc to upgrade your player , but yall spend it on clothes that you ain’t go see or boosts that you ain’t go use .
@@ImChrisJones92 nah the clothes are OD. Plus we’re talking about rec. Every season if there’s an animation you want but can’t get because of the bs thresholds you’re forced to make a new build just to get that. No point in upgrading all the way to 99 especially if you don’t spend money on vc just to make a new build because you’re bored and want to try new animations. I understand your take tho. Playing full purple 92 and under pro am comp teams is a horrible experience even when you’re partied up
@@ImChrisJones92 nah the clothes are OD. Plus we’re talking about rec. Every season if there’s an animation you want but can’t get because of the bs thresholds you’re forced to make a new build just to get that. No point in upgrading all the way to 99 especially if you don’t spend money on vc just to make a new build because you’re bored and want to try new animations. I understand your take tho. Playing full purple 92 and under pro am comp teams is a horrible experience even when you’re partied up
Complaining as a grown ass man is crazy , I leave that for the women in my family
Yet you took the time to watch and respond to the video .
Thanks for the watch time and the paycheck .
@@ImChrisJones92hahahahaha
I’m soo weak off youu 😭😭😭