Amazon's THE WHEEL OF TIME Season 2 Is BROKEN! | RANT REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2024
- All episodes of Amazon's The Wheel of Time season 2 are out now, and despite my goodwill towards the first three episodes, the rest of the season was so bad that it broke an already broken the show.
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"The Wheel of Time is a series of high fantasy novels by American author Robert Jordan, with Brandon Sanderson as a co-author for the final three novels. Originally planned as a six-book series, The Wheel of Time spans 14 volumes, in addition to a prequel novel and two companion books. Jordan began writing the first volume, The Eye of the World, in 1984, and it was published in January 1990.
Jordan died in 2007 while working on what was planned to be the final volume in the series. He prepared extensive notes so another author could complete the book according to his wishes. Fellow fantasy author Brandon Sanderson was brought in to complete the final book, but during the writing process it was decided that the book would be far too large to be published in one volume and would instead be published as three volumes: The Gathering Storm (2009), Towers of Midnight (2010), and A Memory of Light (2013).
The series draws on numerous elements of both European and Asian mythology, most notably the cyclical nature of time found in Buddhism and Hinduism, the metaphysical concepts of balance and duality, and a respect for nature found in Taoism. Additionally, its creation story has similarities to the Abrahamic religions' "Creator" (Light) and Shai'tan, "The Dark One" (Shaitan is an Arabic word that, in Islamic contexts, is used as a name for the Devil or Satan). It was also partly inspired by Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace (1869).
The Wheel of Time is notable for its length, detailed imaginary world and magic system, and large cast of characters. The eighth through fourteenth books each reached number one on the New York Times Best Seller list. After its completion, the series was nominated for a Hugo Award. As of 2021, the series has sold over 90 million copies worldwide, making it one of the best-selling epic fantasy series since The Lord of the Rings. Its popularity has spawned a collectible card game, a video game, a roleplaying game, and soundtrack album. A TV series adaptation produced by Sony Pictures and Amazon Studios premiered in 2021."
"The Wheel of Time is an American epic fantasy television series released through Amazon Prime Video. The series is based on Robert Jordan's novel series of the same name and is produced by Sony Pictures Television and Amazon Studios, with Rafe Judkins serving as showrunner. The first season, consisting of eight episodes, premiered on Prime Video on November 19, 2021, with the first three episodes released immediately and the remaining five on a weekly basis after that, culminating in the season finale on December 24, 2021. A second season was announced in May 2021.
The Wheel of Time follows Moiraine, a member of the Aes Sedai, a powerful organization of women who can channel the One Power. With her Warder, Lan, she seeks a group of five young villagers from the secluded Two Rivers, believing one of them is the reincarnation of the Dragon, an extremely powerful channeller who broke the world. The Dragon Reborn is prophesied to either save the world from a primordial evil known as the Dark One, or break it once more."
"The Wheel of Time follows Moiraine, a member of the Aes Sedai, a powerful organization of women who can channel the One Power. With her Warder, Lan, she seeks a group of five young villagers from the secluded Two Rivers region of Andor following an attack on their village, believing one of them is the reincarnation of the Dragon, an extremely powerful channeller who broke the world. The Dragon Reborn is prophesied to either save the world from a primordial evil known as the Dark One, or break it once more."
Its amazing how they managed to completely make a mockery of every single true to book scenes or lines. Aside from being few and far between they were tossed into the show in an absurdly haphazard way as if only to throw a dog a bone, which rendered them nonsensical as you pointed out. Lans iconic line was meaningless after his previous behavior, Rand getting the letters and tossing them into the fire was completely unearned and unwarranted, and perhaps worst of all Ingtar's iconic line "one man can hold 50 here" only to instantly abandon the defensive position he just lauded to yeet himself into the middle of a group of soldiers and getting himself killed INSTANTLY while they all were still standing there watching him!! What 50 men did he hold?? He literally got killed by half a dozen men or less accomplishing nothing. Just shocking level of bad and incompetent writing.
1. Mat blows the Horn of Valere - epic. A few scenes later, he inadvertently injures Rand. So in this version, it is Mat who gives Rand one of the wounds in his side, not Ishamael. Awful.
2. Lan finally gets to say the "face it on your feet" line. Great. Rand spends most of the rest of the episode on his knees, shielded. Great way to make that advice sound useless.
3. The stage is literally set for a duel between Rand and Ishamael. Even if they didn't have the budget for a fight in the skies, they could have at least fought on the top of that tower. Would have made for great television. But no, the most powerful moment is given to Egwene, and Rand just stabs Ishamael with Ishamael doing nothing. Talk about an anti-climatic ending.
No Thom Merrillin. No Gawyn, Galad, Gaul or Gareth Bryne. No flicker flicker, just some tea. Don't think we'll get the Stone of Tear or Callandor either, as the next season is supposed to be based on The Shadow Rising. I hope Mat's 'weapon' isn't going to replace the Ashandarei. That would give them an excuse to cut out the Tower of Ghenjei and the Finns.
All this when the show had enough time to introduce Liandrin's son and Moiraine's extended family and give us info about Alanna's sex life that we absolutely did not need.
I don't think the writers of this show like epic fantasy or even understand the genre. They are good at creating a lot of soap-opera level melodrama and conflict between characters.
The best thing about this show is that it has introduced the world of Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time to new audiences and more people are reading the books and listening to the audiobooks.
I hope to see a faithful adaptation someday - it can be as good as the Lord of The Rings movies.
Sanderson indicated that likely is the Ashendarai, and he has his memories since horn. So no tower storyline.(plus you can’t pull Moraine for that long since she’s the main character).
Imagine if Egwene had a sword and shield. No other character is even needed to end the season. No Matt means no injury to Rand -> no Elayne->no Nyn carrying Elayne.
I didn't watch season 2, but are you telling me they gave Liandrin a child? The woman who famously despises men more than anything in the world had a child?
The scene wit Siuan and Rand says all about what Rafe Judkins Problem is, he would have preferred the Dragon Reborn to be a woman.
Rafe hates Jordan. After the show is canceled before s4 I hope it can be rebooted in the future by people like who did Arcane, One Piece, or the Expanse. Actual fans of the source material!
This show never fails to disappoint.
Almost admirable it's so consistent.
I think this season was "better" than season 1, mostly because season 1 was soo bad. It did have better costumes, cinematography and the acting was a little better. It also did have some scenes that worked in isolation, such as when Eqwaine was collared while in jail and the fight with the Aes Sedia and the Seanchen. Lanfear was a pretty fun character. But yes, it still seems to resent that main character is a guy and downplays him at every opportunity. He is beat by literally every women in the show and his sword has been a big nothingburger. And Egwaine breaking free from her collar made no sense. They spent a whole episode showing she could not even think of using anything as a weapon against her captor, even a jug. But she somehow grabs a collar and shoves it on her captor then just girlbosses her way through the pain to kill her. That is not only NOT the books, but is just completely inconsistent with the TV version too.
Even the big "dragon" moment was done by Morraine, almost making it seem like Rand is some kind of fraud. If Rand is the dragon, how can normal channelers even silence him at all? (They use the "inexperienced" thing as a crutch, but after like six times it becomes eye rolling) This is a show that just seems bent on it being all about the female characters. If they did not like the story and premise of the WOT books, they needed to do something else.
The scene where he blew the horn was funny. There he was alone and a whole company of Seanchan run at him. 😂
This show is such a disaster of an adaptation it is remarkable.
I remember thinking the Percy Jackson films weren't good adaptations. Wheel Of Time makes them look like the most faithful book to film adaptations in comparison.
Great review, you summed up many book readers frustrations. This is the state that fantasy adaptations are now. It was never great, except for a tiny moment in Hollywood around 2000s when we get movies like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Chronicles of Narnia and later Game of Thrones. But now it seems every time studio announces they are making adaptation of beloved property there is no excitement for it anymore. And when adaptation is suddenly successful everybody is surprised and shocked how good and faithful it is. Look at One Piece live action. Nobody believed in their right mind it would be as good as it was. Especially from Netflix who brought us Death Note and Cowboy Bebop. But this shoud not be exception it shoud be a standart in Hollwood to adapt it right. If you can adapt something like One Piece why they cannot adapt Wheel of Time? Simple answer is love, pasion and respect for the source material.
As a side note how can Rand spend entire season doing nothing? When this was so action packed fast paced book in the series? All the male characters do nothing, they have no agency. How funny it is when Nynaeve had better sword trainers (two wardens were teaching her) and spend more time training (six month to be precise) than the main hero Rand who was shown some moves by crazy old man in sanatorium. At this point Nynaeve could have took up Turak and would be more believable.
The desecration of Rand is the knife wound that hurts me the most... They massacred my boy massively. I feel so bad for Josha Stradowski, he's literally picture perfect casting and they don't use him at all.
Amazon should have made this the flagship and not made The Rings of Power.
1. No proper mention of Saidir and Saidin.
2. Not a high enough budget.
3. No prologue of Lews from the book.
4. Not enough episodes.
5. Loial is a bad joke.
6. Everything else.
7. See 1 to 6
This show is one of Rands flicker lives and at the end we will hear from Balzamon/Rafe "I win again Lew's Therin"
@@ryanoconnor7508 Ahahaha!! That's a great take!
The show actually set up that Mat would likely ignore Min's vision and go with Rand because when he first meets Min and she tells him about her visions, he dismisses it completely because he doesn't believe in it.
The other thing that doesn't work with Mat drinking the tea and see his lives is Ishamael says the tea will let him see his _past_ lives. Yet he sees future and/or parallel lives. Also, he just grabs a metal tea pot that's been steeping for 15 minutes. Sure, the tea water might have cooled a little, but that heat would've transferred into the metal of the pot. I laughed.
I had to also laugh when Rand faces Turak. It's the only scene in the _entire_ series where the Heron is on the hilt of the sword, it's gone again when he's on the tower and has never been there before. So they did it just so Turak could see the Heron and remark on it, making us think we'd get the sword fight.....................for nothing.
Rafe was so proud in an interview that he so cleverly paralleled Rand and Moiraine's storylines in that they both pushed the ones they love away from them only to find they need them. Pats on the back for everyone, Yay!
Brandon Sanderson, in his live watch party with The Dusty Wheel and Daniel Greene, said the writers of this show do _scenes_ well, but are terrible with plot and character arcs.
See I never noticed the disappearing heron, but then again, the show barely focuses on the weapon apart from when they do specific close-ups of it in season 1.
And regarding the stuff you wrote about Mat- I'm 100% with you on it. The way they characterize him in season 2 is so much more book accurate, so him acting more cowardly contradicts the show's own writing for the character, it's so annoying.
I'm also glad that Sanderson is being more outspoken with his disagreements with the writers, it's really refreshing to hear, considering how generous he was being with season 1.
This show is a day-time Soap Opera in a cheap Action/Fantasy mask. I'm not sure if there is even a story, here. Two seasons in, and I don't know who the main character is, and I don't know any goal they may be working up to. Just scenes that may or may not have some connection to previous scenes. Worse, some scenes are entirely contradictory to previous scenes.
There is no way to pin the blame on any single aspect of production when every single aspect is deeply inept. If I has anything positive to say, is that SOME of the acting is excellent (not YOU, Rand... Perrin), and costuming is generally very good (The White Cloaks weird outfits are exempt).
The production off One Piece live action should have been a funeral bell for WoT. The One Piece production managed to squeeze almost 12 volumes of story into an 8 episode season, and had clear goals, instantly lovable characters, entertaining action with stellar choreography. A bombastic and memorable musical score. Interesting camerawork. It is EVERYTHING the Wheel of Time show is NOT.
The major difference is that One Piece is a work of love, and Wheel of Time obviously isn't. One Piece creator Eiichiro Oda had final say in the production there, while listening to Brandon Sanderson, he leaves huge clues that Wheel of Time is simply a product thrown together by a faceless corporate board.
It seems to me that a huge problem is in the fact that Rosamund Pike is a producer on the show. Rand cannot be interesting and fleshed out because he is not the star and the focus of it all, Moraine is. But at the same time story does dictate Rand to be at the center, so instead we get that awkward and mediocre writing
I am 99% sure that Rosamund Pike being a producer was just something in the contract to get her to sign on. Producers range from people being heavily involved to just a title to allow shows and movies to use their names to promote the show. I doubt that Rosamund Pike has any real input about anyone else’s character development
Thanks for this review. Most of your comments I totally share your frustrations. I am so sad this is the show we got. They had the budget and it could have been great, but unfortunately we only got Rafe's own story. Terrible.
In Ingtar's defense he got SLIGHTLY more out of his second death than he did from his first death. He now has the dubious honor of having died twice in the show, both times in the season finally.
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Thank you for this. I love the Wheel of Time books. The first season of the series felt like a big dump on the books- taking something wonderful and tainting it. I was considering giving this show another shot for the second season, but after hearing some of the details from you and reading more from others, I think I'll just move on with my life. I can always read back through the books again to get my wheel of time kicks.
It's REALLY funny to me how criticism for the show ALWAYS has to be apologised for.
Literally every channel does this, often addressing show fans directly.
But I personally find the praise more annoying. Not because it isn't warranted (the show does some things great, some of the adaptation choices make sense which is satisfying to discuss, and some of the character development is "an improvement" so praising the portrayal of the forsaken and Liandrin's development is all totally reasonable and it's GOOD to be positive)
It's that the criticism must ALWAYS be couched in apologetics. As if it's a BAD thing to want a closer adaptation. Or to point out inconsistencies and flaws.
And I giggle when the show fans complain about how unreasonable "book cloaks" are.
WE aren't the ones that creators LITERALLY have to apologise to and directly ask to please not dismiss or get angry about criticism :P (and it MUST be based on metrics and comments sections, bc literally everyone discussing WoPrime does it)
The apologeticness from me mainly comes from taking away from taking people's enjoyment of something. I don't want the entertainment I consume to be bad because honestly it's not a pleasant feeling constantly being negative, it gets tiring after a while.
Criticism should always be constructive and always address the pros and the cons because people did put in work into the show. Whether you think their work is talented or not is a different matter.
On Siuan being shitty.
They have done this consistently to female characters.
They have to be strong by first being arseholes, and THEN hating or demeaning men.
How often do greens objectify men? I'm FINE with this as a character trait, but it SAYS something about a character.
It could say they love men, and that's great.
It could be a commentary on objectification of women in real life, which is also fine though I dislike it as a generalise theory.
Instead, the show very much treats it as the latter... but as a good thing. Much like the misandry SEEMS to be treated as a moral position to take in the show, whereas in the books it is most certainly not. Characters are ALLOWED to do and say bad things... but they have to BE bad within the context of the books.
I see this from "woke" readers fairly often. They will judge the morality of the book on the actions of certain characters... but ALSO explicitly support actions and opinions that are explicitly understood to be morally wrong within the book... It's frustrating.
And unnecessary.
Philosophically, I'm pretty nihilist. I'm an atheist. I don't think existence has a point and I think nothingness awaits (fairly depressing, I know) and that puts me VERY MUCH on Ishy's side of the philosophical debate.
But I still appreciate that he is an antagonist and that RJ (well, mostly Sanderson) is VERY MUCH critiquing such philosophy. And that's okay. Because plenty of REALLY shitty people use a nihilistic viewpoint to justify their own selfishness. (whereas I love a particular quote that outlines my beliefs rather well. "when nothing you do matters, all that matters is what you do")
Indeed. It really is important to be constructive.
But I honestly find that even the harshest critics desperately look for silver linings. Likely for the reasons you give.
(I know I'm sorta weird. I end to think about thinks in negatives... but it's not as bad as it sounds. My default is that things/people are good, so I "paint" in shadows to describe them. I don't need to remind myself of the good stuff, bc the good is inherent. I don't think other people do this? I know I have to be careful how I translate my internal thoughts to other people)
@@HamzaBoujelouah
Agreed! I've made that point several times on other channels where I found the YTer was laying on way too many disclaimers and prefaces to their criticism. It felt like they're trying to calm a wild animal 😏 .
Whereas I just like a good debate. Or argument.
Agreeing about everything all the time is kinda boring :P@@bidossessi
Thanks for doing this, Hamza. It saves me both the time and pain that watching Season 2 would have caused me. After watching Season 1, I was done with WOT and was adamant that I would not watch Season 2. Broke that decision by watching Episode 1 and wished I hadn't as things still hadn't improved. This whole show is just a collection of scenes randomly put together without thought to how best tell a story. Every male character is a SIMP, and every female character is a BITCH. After Season 1, I predicted this would not survive past Season 3. From your analysis, I still believe this will be the case! Stay safe 🤘 ✌️
Great summary of everything wrong with the show. It really is a tragedy. Thanks for making this video. If they'd done the same to Lord Of the Rings I think there would have been public outcry and demonstrations in the streets. I don't think people would have accepted Gandalf the Gay and Frodo as a side character.
I disagree about the relationship with Selene. The important thing in the books is that Rand resists her charms, like he senses underneath it all that she is bad news. I was always rooting for him in the books when he manages to resist. It shows his inner strength and instincts. It also diminishes the loss of his virginity later in the books which is tastefully done and has plot significance. It's also regrettable that they got her casting wrong. Even Loial is captivated by her, she is described as being the embodiment of perfect human female beauty. No offense intended to the actress, but she is not that stunning and she is 15 years too old for the part. When Rand meets her, she appears to be his own age, maybe a bit younger. Rand shagging a Forsaken is just a terrible story decision, it makes him look like a cuck.
Huh? Selene wasn’t wearing an I am a forsaken t-shirt. Rand didn’t know that Selene was really Lanfear
@@christianrapper No, he didn't know she was Lanfear, but he resisted all of her advances as if he sensed there was something off about her. Being a young boy with no experience with women, it's impressive that he didn't take the bait like most guys would have.
@@guichogf5636 no Rand didn’t. You’re projected your knowledge of Selene as a viewer and a book reader onto Rand. Rand didn’t sleep with Lanfear earlier in the show because he was still getting over Egwene. He didn’t do it in the books because he was innocent and didn’t know what to do. Lanfear was close to seducing him one time in the books but someone interrupted them. Book Selene also kept disappearing mysteriously and really didn’t press Rand that hard. In the show Rand was literally staying with her so show Selene had ample time to seduce Rand and it still took about 6 months.
It’s because of the show that I’ve recently purchased the book series after finishing S2, I’m loving it. HOWVER, I’m halfway through Book 1 and can understand why people be hating the show. So much left out just outta Two Rivers ALONE! I’m loving the show, I figure if I do the show first, I’ll only be pleasantly surprised by how amazing I anticipate the books to be. I’ll just consider the books a director’s cut. 😂
That's understandable to a point. The thing that just rubs me the wrong way in regards to the show is how the showrunner keeps talking about cutting book material because they don't have time, yet they spend so much screen time on nothing-burger scenes. Again, the scenes with Moiraine's family was nice for one episode but they massively outstayed their welcome.
You may have to do that. It will likely keep you from enjoying the show if you read first and watch with a critical eye. If you can shut it off you can still enjoy.
I’m just curious if you’ll feel the attachment to the world that the other readers do who read first.
Best wishes and enjoy.
Maybe they would have had the budget for the Sky Battle or the Book Horn Scene if they had done a number of the following:
1. Focused on Rand's Story and cut out the redundant scenes of moiraine and family. This isn't her story. She'll have moments to shine later in Books 3, 4, and 5.
2. Made the Seanchan Costumes 30% less...goofy. They were shooting for exotic but they overshot the mark. (how much did the High Lord's Armor and Nails cost? In the Books if memory serves he fights rand in minimal armor because he's just that deadly.)
3. Done a book accurate meeting between Siuan and Rand. No Channeling VFX required.
4. Cut out the scenes with Alanna and lan which really make her look cringey and a little handsy. I guess objectification and molestation is only bad when men do it? Great Message for all Audience there Rafe.
5. Cut Moiraine's Battle Scene on the beach again no vfx budget needed. Have her be apart of the final battle where the horn is blown if you must. Keep her Shielded but have her use those daggers she carries in season 1. Then have rand cut the shield weave by defeating Ishamael. (She can even keep him from bleeding to death from his new wound and remark how it refuses to heal all the way which is extremely important in the books)
Then again even if the writing team had thought to do any of these things. They wouldn't have gone through with it because that would mean prioritizing being faithful to the original story over their personal vision for the story. Y'know like they told was their intent in the very earliest interviews for the series.
The Heron mark on the handle of his father's sword is only there in the Turak scene. No other. It's only there so he will see Rand has a Heron marked blade and challenge him... they made Rand a honorless dog on purpose
What are you talking about? How is Rand honorless?
@@christianrapper He was challenged to a duel because he had a Heron mark blade for that scene. He doesn't deny the challenge then attack nor does accept then duel. Either would have been honorable. Instead he murders Turak and his people in cold blood. This makes him honorless.
He does not know if they are dark friend or not. He doesn't know if they have been tricked into helping the Forsaken. Making no effort to find out. This makes him honorless as well.
@@krissaunders6418 that’s just silly. Rand can channel. That would be like if Rand had a gun and was challenged to a duel with a sword. Rand would have been a freaking moron to fight Turak even if he was as good as Lan at sword fighting. He came there to free Egwene, who by the was actually given to Turak as a slave. If you think that Rand not wasting time fighting a pointless duel with a slaver is honorless than I am questioning you.
@@christianrapper Rand doesn't know Egwene is Turak's slave. All he knows is that Ishy has her where he wants her. So yes his actions are dishonorable. For them to be ok or good he would need to know that Turak was her slaver. For all Rand knows Turak could have her prisoner because he was told she had broken a law. You don't get to murder someone then say it is ok later because you find out that he is a slaver...
You are conveniently ignoring the part where I said he could have denied Turak's challenge then attacked being honorable. All he would have to had said was something along the lines of, "I will not duel with a dark friend" or "I'm only here for Egwene. Move aside or die." Then killed them when they didn't get out of the way and everything would have been ok.
If you brought a gun to a sword fight and used it when the other person has a reasonable belief that you will fight fairly, which Turak did have because Rand had an Heron marked blade, then yes you would be dishonorable. Having a character follow through with his morals is never pointless.
@@krissaunders6418 what are you talking about? Rand knows that Egwene is on top of that tower and he needs to get to her as quickly as possible. It’s completely idiotic to give up your advantage in a life or death situation. You would be one of those movie characters in fiction that died stupidly by putting down the gun and stupidly fist fighting. No channeler in the books including Rand would sword fight someone when they didn’t have to. RJ and the show made a point in showing that in Nynaeve’s lesson. Did you even read the books? The only reason that Rand dueled Turak was because he didn’t want anyone to know that he could channel.
When you said Moraine should have asked Logain to help Rand to give his life meaning and to support a cause, I groaned at the missed opportunity. That would have been SO much better than offering him the knife. Ugh, that scene is so much worse now for me.
This show is a complete artistic vandalism of the original books and i refuse to watch anymore
Really fair criticism and I think I agree with it all. Got my subscription based on this video alone.
The writers clumsily inserting the line "whatever comes, face it on your feet" because they knew it was a fan-favorite and expected to be there feels like a deliberate, spiteful slap in the audience's face when they then *immediately* force Rand onto his knees and leave him like that for the rest of the episode. There's no way it was an accident. It's like an extremely childish way for them to go "oh? You like that line, huh? Well have it then, but how do you like THIS?" Even when they are begrudgingly forced to include something from the books they find a way to undermine it and it's just so disrespectful.
Amazon should have made this the flagship and not made The Rings of Power.
1. No proper mention of Saidir and Saidin.
2. Not a high enough budget.
3. No prologue of Lews from the book.
4. Not enough episodes per season or long enough. 10x1hr.
5. Loial is a bad joke.
6. Everything else.
7. See 1 to 6.
Why? It’s not like they did Rings of Power well.
You actually forgot some of what happened in the books. They combined Perin’s powers with Hurin who was a sniffer. I agree with some of what you said though.
I cannot watch it anymore. I am a bookfan. And its wot in name only. It has nothing to do with the book. I got bad to reading.
Book Mat doesn’t cheat fate. He literally married the last woman that he would want to because of a foretelling.
He does sort of try to, especially early on, it just never works out for him.
35:10 there actually *isn't* a heron on the sword's handle in the show, they literally added one just for the scene where it's showing above his shoulder and Turak recognizes it, because otherwise he would've had no way to tell that the sword was a blademaster's sword. However, apart from that scene the sword doesn't have a heron on its handle in the show and people were pointing this out as weird ever since they released the first promo pictures for the sword. It just shows how lazy and unprepared this show is.
Nice review man!
Glad you enjoyed it
Avienda goes with Perrin because he set her free. Same reason Gaul went with Perrin in the books.
But that was after Tear
Awesome review
I confess: I stopped watching after episode 4.
In spite of your statement that you're ready to let the books go, you kept coming back to the books as reference 😛I'm not hating on you. I find it very incoherent that people asserted that we needed to turn off our book brains to enjoy the show, when pro-show people systematically use the books to explain away or fill in show plot holes, and anti-show people use the book to highlight them. So apparently no-one can put the books aside after all, in both camps 😂.
I think the problem is that I was willing to forgive the writers from deviating from the book so long as the material they supplemented it with was good/interesting. It wasn't, which then made me frustrated because why waste all of this time on nothing scenes when they could have spent time adapting scenes from the book they said were cut for time?!
@@HamzaBoujelouah fair point.
Hi, hamza, can i get you on a wheel of time critique podcast?
Send me an email (on my about page) discussing the details and we'll see if we can make it happen.
@@HamzaBoujelouahI emailed you, I sent some of the details. It'll be a live stream on youtube. I just need times you are available and see if there's a platform I can talk to you to coordinate this
@@j-rambles I just responded to your email but it didn't go through :/
I know nothing about the books and watched season one but skipped ahead a lot because the story seemed boring and confusing. I tried to look into this series and found a lot of reviews of people angry over Amazon's adaptation. Seems this is happening with a lot of studios in the last few years and it's almost like they are doing it on purpose or they are so full of themselves they think they can do better than the original source material. I decided to watch season two and it seemed more interesting but the impression I kept getting is they were making Rand look weak and not only him but others as well and making the Aes Sedai more powerful even over Rand. I take it they probably are very powerful but it just sat wrong with me how weak they made Rand look. I need to read the books though.
Unfortunately The Director ( Rosamund Pike ) and Writers are making " Game of Thrones " ,., with the Wheel of Time Characters and half of the story line . The desire to ' kill off ' characters ( GoT ) as a Hollywood recipe for success , has ruined this adaptation . Plenty of people and characters die in this story as it was written , the need to add MORE Characters deaths to the adaptation is foolish .
'''''''''' SPOILER ALERT FOR NON BOOK READERS ''''''''''' Unfortunately Rand Al' Thor is also a polygamist with THREE wives , which makes the story very difficult to " sell " to mainstream Hollywood production which of course is one of the BEST parts of being the dragon reborn .... You get " it " like that 😂
I have been waiting 10 - 15 years for something visual . I'm not completely disappointed , but I can see the story is not the one I read , which is pretty unfortunate.
Am i the only one who felt nothing about egwene being leashed and tortured?
No. You're not. With all the fake out deaths nothing matters anymore. In fact i couldnt help but blame her they were untied and unguarded. Why was she waiting on Nyneave to do something. But she does take time to make a sheild against a blast so great for her but the she's separated from the others coz she's not running fast enough or being stealthy. Coz how can they track her if they can even feel liandrin weaving a few feet from them. I dont know.🤷🏽♀️ I just dont care. It's hard to care about anything in this show
Its the same with elayne getting shot. I mean you're in the middle of a fcuking battle. The other lafy just got crossbowed in the face. Run for cover!!!! I wish she died also honestly. Stupidity like that shouldn't be rewarded. Maybe it can be enough that a whole wisdom and healer pushed a whole arrow complete with fletchings through her leg. And told her to just get up no bandages included.
Merlin is a masterpiece compared to this
The episodes have different authors. They’ve never met (one presumes).
Why would Rand fight with a sword when he can channel? Book Rand didn’t go around sword fighting unless he couldn’t channel.
Except for all the times he fought blademasters with swords.
@@Mahalleinir Rand did not fight any blade masters except Turak when he could channel. He only sparred with people. Everyone in the book points out how dumb it is for a channeler to sword fight.
Are you sure you read the books. Coz he created sword from saidin is how much he preferred it. Rand channels at other channelers and its usually defensive because it takes him time to accept his channeling and then time to learn his channeling. He also learns the mma style from the aiel because well ot doesn't help to be prepared and more importantly he does understand the advantage channeling has and how that can become a crutch.
The show is just a vehicle for feminism. Yall need to wake up...
Excellent season, but it's a pity the bookcloaks haven't improved
There was a distinct lack of girlbossing and 3somes, if this show is going to make it in the long run they are going to need to pump those aspects up