Yeah I agree. I loved that thick snare he used to use a lot in his earlier productions. But I love how he chops. And his drum programming is dope too. People hate for no reason
@@bennyfairfax1 : Yes. This is it. Quantizes and some old school FL Channel Rack swing. I mean it's an aesthetic, but just not something I dug 100% of the time
@@lighterwaves5659 : The FL Channel rack has a swing setting. He was probably adjusting it somewhere between 1% and 15% until the drums sounded how he wanted them.
I've studied a bit of boom bap records in search of the perfect explanation of what makes a good boom bap drum programing. What I noticed about the early 90's records was that every other kick plays like a ghost note being a shadow of it's former self. The main kick is always a constant but the secondary kick may have a softer Attack and a shorter release and tail amongst other things to ensure that it's presence is still their but not felt as much as the initial primary kick. Shortening the delay of a kick means you can fit that kick into smaller empty spaces in a drum pattern, you can also consider differentiating the secondary kick's volume from the primary kick's decibels. This gives the beat more variation.
9th Wonder changed the game..not many were chopping up samples in the way 9th did. And he was using some basic stuff to make music and it sounded dope, inspiring a new generation of beatmakers…when peeps found out he was using things like Fruity Loops software etc, peeps ran out and started using it hoping to produce the same dopeness 9th did, not realising that it ain’t all about what equipment you have, it’s whether you have the ear to create dope soundscapes. 9th changed the game. 😎💯
Yeah he was kind of a trailblazer in using music software to make beats. It really was kind of a new thing because producers were accustomed to using hardware in the 90's. But he has to die on that hill of saying hey, would you even really care what I made my beats on if I never told you? Your mind matters more than the machine. Ironically, he uses hardware now too but it just goes to show, you can be on a Jay-Z even if you made your beat on FL Studio lol.
pete rock, rza, premier….yea this comment need revision and reflection…. nothing is ever new under the sun….9th simply did what he thought he heard…. 9th didn’t reinvent the wheel …excellent producer one of my favs but he isn’t top 10 in the context of skill and mastery…his earlier stuff was quite basic but it sounded great because hes a great sample picker…
if anything 9th only made the jedi masters accept software producers into their ranks because software producers were seen as corny and keyboard producers too…..but in all honesty fl studio is the best daw for beginners and very easy to use its what i started on at 14 when i got a demo version of fruity loops 4 in 02
I'm thankful not only for the new ground and avenues 9th opened up for producers like myself, but also for all the great music he's released. However, and I'm being honest, I always wanted more from 9ths drums and drum programming. I like the formula, for sure, but sometimes I just wanted more variations from him. That's not a knock on him a producer, just something I wanted as a selfish listener. For instance ,9th's peer and collective-mate Khrysis definitely gives me exactly that. Dope videos! Peace!
I think that the drums is an element of the creative process that doesn't need to be "on 10", like others. I think applying the idea that every part of a song needs to be at its height of productive possibility rises drowning the song in mediocrity, as if every instrument/voice is trying to drown out the others. A frame, sometimes a simple one, is needed to allow the other parts to stand out.
@@rockbwoyindabuilding5397 they changed the game of sampling as far as the style of sampling. Listen to Pete Rock large professor, premier, q tip, kanye beats. But they didn't change the game just perfected the sample game.
@@rockbwoyindabuilding5397 : I agree with you. It might be a hot take (or not), but I'd go as far as to say that Khrysis is probably better at flipping samples and programming drums than 9th is. Yeah he might not have the bigger name but he's obviously much more technical about how his beats get put together while still preserving the aesthetic that 9th and the Justus League is known for.
A lot of people that say that “he uses the same type of drum sounds all the time” are mostly correct. He’s an okay beat maker. He’s a bit stagnant when it comes to his music production…
I appreciate you saying that because I like for people to have different opinions. If someone asks you who are the great beatmakers, who comes to your mind?
Well, I actually respect more producers who actually can play live instruments especially, while being in the studio. I respect producers like: J Dilla Hi-Tek Jerry Wonda Ski Beatz Dr. Dre Timbaland Devante’ Swing Teddy Riley The Neptunes Thundercat Madlib James Poyser Questlove Larry Smith Rick Rubin Raphael Saddiq DJ Quik DJ Battlecat DJ Pooh QD3 Ant Banks Sir Jinx
Yeah I agree. I loved that thick snare he used to use a lot in his earlier productions. But I love how he chops. And his drum programming is dope too. People hate for no reason
the soul is in the human quantizing of him playing the drums
9th Wonder usually quantizes his drums.
@@bennyfairfax1 probably after he plays em live tho..so it still has a human feel but slightly corrected. i think...idk.
@@bennyfairfax1 : Yes. This is it. Quantizes and some old school FL Channel Rack swing. I mean it's an aesthetic, but just not something I dug 100% of the time
@@lighterwaves5659 : The FL Channel rack has a swing setting. He was probably adjusting it somewhere between 1% and 15% until the drums sounded how he wanted them.
@@ascendedmasta he uses fl? idk
He went from making beats in FL to making them on MPC, so his sound changed a bit.
I never got tired of his early drums..I was pissed when he left those drums behind for a bit.
I've studied a bit of boom bap records in search of the perfect explanation of what makes a good boom bap drum programing. What I noticed about the early 90's records was that every other kick plays like a ghost note being a shadow of it's former self. The main kick is always a constant but the secondary kick may have a softer Attack and a shorter release and tail amongst other things to ensure that it's presence is still their but not felt as much as the initial primary kick. Shortening the delay of a kick means you can fit that kick into smaller empty spaces in a drum pattern, you can also consider differentiating the secondary kick's volume from the primary kick's decibels. This gives the beat more variation.
Decay?
@@irishmossdubwise 🤔🙄decay 😳🤣💯 thank you
@@lturner7159 lol
@@lturner7159 good advice if not delay
This is what I like to see. Detailed discussions in the comments. That's gonna help a lot of producers. Myself included.
people hated on his drums?! he's the reason i use THAT snare in most of my boom bap.
9th Wonder changed the game..not many were chopping up samples in the way 9th did. And he was using some basic stuff to make music and it sounded dope, inspiring a new generation of beatmakers…when peeps found out he was using things like Fruity Loops software etc, peeps ran out and started using it hoping to produce the same dopeness 9th did, not realising that it ain’t all about what equipment you have, it’s whether you have the ear to create dope soundscapes. 9th changed the game. 😎💯
Yeah he was kind of a trailblazer in using music software to make beats. It really was kind of a new thing because producers were accustomed to using hardware in the 90's. But he has to die on that hill of saying hey, would you even really care what I made my beats on if I never told you? Your mind matters more than the machine. Ironically, he uses hardware now too but it just goes to show, you can be on a Jay-Z even if you made your beat on FL Studio lol.
Dilla
pete rock, rza, premier….yea this comment need revision and reflection…. nothing is ever new under the sun….9th simply did what he thought he heard…. 9th didn’t reinvent the wheel …excellent producer one of my favs but he isn’t top 10 in the context of skill and mastery…his earlier stuff was quite basic but it sounded great because hes a great sample picker…
if anything 9th only made the jedi masters accept software producers into their ranks because software producers were seen as corny and keyboard producers too…..but in all honesty fl studio is the best daw for beginners and very easy to use its what i started on at 14 when i got a demo version of fruity loops 4 in 02
@@rockbwoyindabuilding5397 I'm curious, if FL is for beginners, what's the best DAW for advanced beatmaking?
I'm thankful not only for the new ground and avenues 9th opened up for producers like myself, but also for all the great music he's released. However, and I'm being honest, I always wanted more from 9ths drums and drum programming. I like the formula, for sure, but sometimes I just wanted more variations from him. That's not a knock on him a producer, just something I wanted as a selfish listener. For instance ,9th's peer and collective-mate Khrysis definitely gives me exactly that. Dope videos! Peace!
Thanks for watching and also for your honesty. I'm also a big fan of Khrysis.
Alright is one of my favorite 9th joints. There are so many over the years, but it’s definitely up there. You definitely picked some great ones. 💪🏾.
thanks!
That’s his signature. 🔥💪🏾💙💯 I love it! He does it his way.
He has that Raw ASR drum sounds
9th wonder beats are straight 🔥
Snare a cross between a video game punch and old time beat boxin.
One of my biggest inspirations
The snare just hit different on church Omg 😮🔥
That Church Track is crazy....one of my favs on that album
Simplicity at it’s finest. Ninth’s drums
The drums from Speed off of The Listening were always tough to me.
I think that the drums is an element of the creative process that doesn't need to be "on 10", like others. I think applying the idea that every part of a song needs to be at its height of productive possibility rises drowning the song in mediocrity, as if every instrument/voice is trying to drown out the others. A frame, sometimes a simple one, is needed to allow the other parts to stand out.
what is the beat that plays in the beginning of the video?
The Nite Riders remix. It's a Boot Camp song. I think it's by Smif N Wessun.
@@BackToTheBoomBap Thank you so much!
@@press8912 you're welcome!
Didn’t 9th wonder do Blowout Comb?
He got his name from one of the songs on Blowout Comb.
J dilla and 9th wonder changed the game respectively
what did they change?
@@rockbwoyindabuilding5397 they changed the game of sampling as far as the style of sampling. Listen to Pete Rock large professor, premier, q tip, kanye beats. But they didn't change the game just perfected the sample game.
@@Marvilloso dilla i can agree with but 9th i can’t go that far
@@rockbwoyindabuilding5397 : I agree with you. It might be a hot take (or not), but I'd go as far as to say that Khrysis is probably better at flipping samples and programming drums than 9th is. Yeah he might not have the bigger name but he's obviously much more technical about how his beats get put together while still preserving the aesthetic that 9th and the Justus League is known for.
Let talk about 9th baselines next
That's a good idea. I might do that.
@@BackToTheBoomBap all day
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Review some of my remixes🔥🙏🏾
They were always the same lol.Dope tho
A lot of people that say that “he uses the same type of drum sounds all the time” are mostly correct. He’s an okay beat maker. He’s a bit stagnant when it comes to his music production…
I appreciate you saying that because I like for people to have different opinions. If someone asks you who are the great beatmakers, who comes to your mind?
Well, I actually respect more producers who actually can play live instruments especially, while being in the studio. I respect producers like:
J Dilla
Hi-Tek
Jerry Wonda
Ski Beatz
Dr. Dre
Timbaland
Devante’ Swing
Teddy Riley
The Neptunes
Thundercat
Madlib
James Poyser
Questlove
Larry Smith
Rick Rubin
Raphael Saddiq
DJ Quik
DJ Battlecat
DJ Pooh
QD3
Ant Banks
Sir Jinx