The fix you presented works well, and disguises the error, however isn't the door now out of square on the back side and not the correct height? Did you then need to plans down the sides to obtain a flush fit to the cabinet?
Good thought Tom. The way the miter lock joint works, is that only one side is out of alignment. The top is slightly higher at that one corner. When I attached the doors (next video), that corner is the top outside, not the hinged side. When I close the doors, the two don't line up on the inside, but because the top of the cabinet surface isn't visible, nobody can see it. I could have spent time planing it down, but the thinner material might be obvious once the cabinet is open. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for posting your comment - very observant of you. Scott
I work with a professional refinisher with decades of experience, and he tells me sometimes old shellac finishes go soft. I don't have experience with that but as he's my mentor for finishes, I trust him.
Interesting - I use shellac for everything and have never seen it, but perhaps over timespans longer than an average person’s career it might happen (e.g. hundreds of years).
I don't like making negative comments Scott, but that mess puts you at the bottom of your own 'so-so' woodworkers list I'm afraid. How could you look at that every day hereafter and be happy with it? I'd rather start again. The door is now way out of square. At worst I'd have run a hand saw through it at 45 degrees and formed a mitre, and clamped it shut maybe with a filler piece in it to ensure squareness. Then maybe a couple of dowels to strengthen it. Personally I couldn't have lived with that either. What a shame. It's all a learning curve mate. I'm retired after 40+ years and still make whoopsies.
Hi Graham. Thanks for your feedback. 20 years ago, before I started my woodworking business, I used to think perfection was the goal. I've since learned what I balance between acceptable and unacceptable craftsmanship. The door sides are still parallel. The front of the door looks good. It's in the inside, top that is out of alignment, which isn't noticeable when the doors are open or closed. This really came down to a decision of cosmetics... how would this look when it's finished. I show that in the next video and you may be surprised. I won't try to convince you to like it, but at least you will see what it looks like. Interesting suggestion on the potential fix, Unfortunately, the panel is glued into the dados for additional strength of the door. That means that cutting a 45 degree angle across the joint could open a parallel gap, but it couldn't be clamped together to join the sides because everything is glued in place. I appreciate you posting your comment. No offence taken. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the next video where you see the repair with the finish applied... even if you don't like it. Cheers. Scott
I like how you use mistakes as learning tools instead of just editing stuff out. I love this channel, and your fixing furniture channel also.
Thank you very much!
perfect work
Thank you. I do my best. Scott
Great job, Scott. I especially liked how you pretended to screw up just so you can show us how to fix gaps in joins. ;)
Lol, thanks for the credit. Cheers. Scott
Scott your voice is sooooo relaxing 😀😉 you should do an asmr video series!
Lol. Maybe it's all the woodworking I do that makes me calm :) Scott
The fix you presented works well, and disguises the error, however isn't the door now out of square on the back side and not the correct height? Did you then need to plans down the sides to obtain a flush fit to the cabinet?
Good thought Tom. The way the miter lock joint works, is that only one side is out of alignment. The top is slightly higher at that one corner. When I attached the doors (next video), that corner is the top outside, not the hinged side. When I close the doors, the two don't line up on the inside, but because the top of the cabinet surface isn't visible, nobody can see it. I could have spent time planing it down, but the thinner material might be obvious once the cabinet is open. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for posting your comment - very observant of you. Scott
Did you consider injecting glue into the gaps and reclamping to see if you could pull it into square and close the gap?
You'd need proper clamps for that. No chance with pump clamps, but it would have worked.
Unfortunately, with the glue set at one end of the joint, there's no way the gap will close. Good troubleshooting thought though. Scott
Shellac won’t get soft when applied on furniture, only when sitting in a can.
I work with a professional refinisher with decades of experience, and he tells me sometimes old shellac finishes go soft. I don't have experience with that but as he's my mentor for finishes, I trust him.
Interesting - I use shellac for everything and have never seen it, but perhaps over timespans longer than an average person’s career it might happen (e.g. hundreds of years).
Did he just say “not gunna show you how it’s done” about setting up the depth and all that???
I don't like making negative comments Scott, but that mess puts you at the bottom of your own 'so-so' woodworkers list I'm afraid. How could you look at that every day hereafter and be happy with it? I'd rather start again. The door is now way out of square. At worst I'd have run a hand saw through it at 45 degrees and formed a mitre, and clamped it shut maybe with a filler piece in it to ensure squareness. Then maybe a couple of dowels to strengthen it. Personally I couldn't have lived with that either. What a shame.
It's all a learning curve mate. I'm retired after 40+ years and still make whoopsies.
Hi Graham. Thanks for your feedback. 20 years ago, before I started my woodworking business, I used to think perfection was the goal. I've since learned what I balance between acceptable and unacceptable craftsmanship. The door sides are still parallel. The front of the door looks good. It's in the inside, top that is out of alignment, which isn't noticeable when the doors are open or closed. This really came down to a decision of cosmetics... how would this look when it's finished. I show that in the next video and you may be surprised. I won't try to convince you to like it, but at least you will see what it looks like.
Interesting suggestion on the potential fix, Unfortunately, the panel is glued into the dados for additional strength of the door. That means that cutting a 45 degree angle across the joint could open a parallel gap, but it couldn't be clamped together to join the sides because everything is glued in place.
I appreciate you posting your comment. No offence taken. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the next video where you see the repair with the finish applied... even if you don't like it. Cheers. Scott
@@HomeImprovementWoodworking Hi Scott, Iook forward to seeing the finished item. What i didn't say is that I like the look of the rest of it so far.