D2 Review | If John Carpenter's The Thing Was A Soap Opera

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  • @catherinemunsey3544
    @catherinemunsey3544 Рік тому +149

    This is such a weird core game for me, as my mom played this back when I was in grade school (I think it was 2001 but I don't remember). She had borrowed a friend's dreamcast to play the game, and I would watch her during the summer it took her to beat it. I still distinctly remember how she screamed, scaring me shitless, cause she had scoped in and thought a tree was a monster. It's a funny core memory I have.

    • @musicobsessive123
      @musicobsessive123 11 місяців тому

      ur mom fuckin rules

    • @olivercharles2930
      @olivercharles2930 8 місяців тому +1

      what game??

    • @huntclanhunt9697
      @huntclanhunt9697 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@olivercharles2930 The game from the video. D2.

    • @SeriouslyWhoDidThis
      @SeriouslyWhoDidThis 7 місяців тому +3

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who has core childhood memories of their mother playing video games.

    • @wes788411
      @wes788411 3 місяці тому +4

      @@olivercharles2930what a dumb question.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots Рік тому +470

    john carpenter is a huge gamer nowadays so he'd probably like this game, actually

    • @titlasagna2172
      @titlasagna2172 Рік тому +12

      Really!!? Wow

    • @hanchiman
      @hanchiman Рік тому +60

      @@titlasagna2172 F.E.A.R 3 storyline was written by John Carpenter, think he also provided the music for the game too. Although the game kinda flopped but it a hidden gem and conclusion of the FEAR series.

    • @blockeontheleafeon
      @blockeontheleafeon Рік тому +21

      Does he play Among Us, then? It's heavily inspired by his movie so I'm sure it's right up his alley.

    • @ShyKubo
      @ShyKubo Рік тому +21

      Nah, I don’t think he ever expressed playing Among Us. But he did say that he admired the game due to its similarities to his movie “The Thing.”

    • @blockeontheleafeon
      @blockeontheleafeon Рік тому +9

      @@ShyKubo Nice to know he appreciates it at least. I'm glad that's the case.

  • @patanu
    @patanu Рік тому +303

    This might just be my perspective, but I think the reason Laura doesn't talk in the game could be seen as her having trouble communicating. How at the beginning of the game you see her get anxious over spilling her drink, normally someone would just get a little annoyed or shocked by it, but the way she folds up her hands and quickly tries to clean it up before anyone can see shows her as a bit more nervous and embarrassed by it, and despite most of the game has simply or groan when talking, the moment where she finally speaks up has more impact because in one case she has to say her name to get into the room and at the end she shows emotional over seeing David alive, she felt the need to say it out loud.
    I'll admit I'm likely reading more into it than what's there, but It's a unique take on a silent protagonist in a game I've never really seen done before and I like it.

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +91

      Yes, that’s a really interesting way of looking at it. I wish they would have tried to do a bit more to show her in that way throughout the story. I mean, I guess you could interpret her staying rooted to the ground during combat as being frightened. That might be way too meta though, but maybe not considering it’s Kenji Eno.
      Either way, I agree it’s a unique take on a silent protagonist, and I really like this game a lot.

    • @eCodex
      @eCodex 10 місяців тому +23

      @@dungeonchill i'm mute and totally agree with the interpretation that laura is on the nonverbal spectrum. i hate the term 'selectively mute' because i don't have native access to language either way even if i can somewhat fluidly communicate in certain contexts [with great effort & often a lot unsaid, lol], but outside of business meetings & medical appointments i could go days/weeks without speaking. lauras mannerisms to me are super relatable in that sense---the emphasis on gestural communication, her visible 'xp startup sound' before she speaks in both clips. i really wish this was explored more in the game; 'silent protagonist' is such a male coded/heavily masculinised trope & it was nice to see a female character riff on it

    • @A_Stereotypical_Heretic
      @A_Stereotypical_Heretic 9 місяців тому +2

      You like your own theory... What a shock

    • @A_Stereotypical_Heretic
      @A_Stereotypical_Heretic 9 місяців тому

      ​@@eCodexyou're not mute. Stop taking disabilities that don't belong to you. That's disrespectful

    • @thescatologistcopromancer3936
      @thescatologistcopromancer3936 8 місяців тому +8

      ​@@A_Stereotypical_HereticTake a nap buddy

  • @gpkai
    @gpkai Рік тому +28

    You saying that she's was actually a silent protagonist this whole time actually left me speechless lol I never imagined she was actually silent watching the video but in hindsight as much as you've shown her she never seems to attempt to mouth words lmao. *Edit* Great video btw, you have a very relaxing and smooth way of speaking and the way you transition from point to point makes it easy to follow along.

  • @mizar1676
    @mizar1676 Рік тому +45

    Thank you for bringing more attention to this game. Kenji Eno was an Auteur before those were widely acknowledged in gaming. He deserves to be remembered.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Рік тому +13

      Oh geez I looked him up bc this was so cool, & was so sad to find out he passed away so young. Thanks for being the catalyst for me discovering his music + other art too.

  • @dudestep
    @dudestep Рік тому +160

    Gotta play more of this game. Me and my gf were really digging the vibes but then I went outside the cabin, got completely lost for 45 minutes and then gave up.

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +28

      Yeah, it gets confusing with its story triggers. Definitely worth giving it another shot though!

    • @striderreborn1467
      @striderreborn1467 Рік тому +14

      If you're using a VMU, it helps to use it as a compass. Also, there are now walkthroughs online in case you end up lost.

    • @Lucifronz
      @Lucifronz Рік тому +8

      Some games just aren't that good without a walkthrough, tbh. Some games aren't good without cheats.
      It's unfortunate. One one hand I almost want to say they're not bad games despite this, but I feel like that'd be disingenuous. They're interesting in spite of their flaws, I think would be the best way of putting it. Like you want to find a way to make it work even if it's not quite right because they've got you invested.

    • @aweirdwombat
      @aweirdwombat 8 місяців тому +1

      There's only ever two paths at a given time. Though if you go the wrong way you'll eat a lot of time.

  • @mikehawk8984
    @mikehawk8984 Рік тому +52

    I have distinct memories, some of my first memories, of my mom playing D2 on the Dreamcast and myself sneaking out to watch her play it. I'm glad to see that I was not, in fact, embellishing my own memories of how utterly strange and ethereal this game was.
    It's like being in an episode of Twin Peaks with sporadic, horrifying (at the time, I was a wee lil tot lol) departures into vegan, stretched polygon, rail shooter The Thing. 😅😂

  • @Svoorhout85
    @Svoorhout85 Рік тому +40

    The "digital actress" thing reminds me of Toriyama, the artist of the Dragon Ball franchise. He refers to his "actors" too as an excuse to draw the same faces all the time.

    • @tessfabled4115
      @tessfabled4115 Рік тому +7

      The same applies to Osamu Tezuka with his star system - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osamu_Tezuka%27s_Star_System

  • @potentiallyunfunnyguy9716
    @potentiallyunfunnyguy9716 Рік тому +24

    So eh, just had this video recommended to me after watching some other dreamcast game reviews. Wasn't till the end of the video that I noticed that this is one of those smaller channels youtube keeps recommending to me inbetween the larger 10k+ subs ones. Your narration is spot-on, good mixture of casual yet structured. I loved it. Gonna be checking out the rest of the content. Keep doing what you're doing, it's great! Up there in quality with the bigger names among game reviewers.

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much. I appreciate that. Hope you like the other videos!

  • @Dootslay4rX66
    @Dootslay4rX66 Рік тому +19

    The uneasiness that you feel when you first play D2 is fascinating because the atmosphere is compelling, heavy, but kinda "familiar" once you get used to it. I love it and hate it at the same time because of lack of story background on the characters in general, but the cherry on top for me is that a simple disease-like scenario turns out to be more and more mythological and supernatural in nature the more you explore. This is the type of game that the more you explore the less you understand, but the plot always thickens and makes you glued to it for some reason. Its hard to explain in just a few words, but to me its a underrated masterpiece

  • @TeapotCozy
    @TeapotCozy 10 місяців тому +5

    Oh wow you just solved a 20 year mystery for me. I remember watching someone play this game when I was a kid but all I could remember was the mother boss and the very end. I have searched for years for 'chicken woman with fiddle game' to no avail and then there she was in your video! Thank you!

    • @peppermillers8361
      @peppermillers8361 9 місяців тому +1

      It was probably SuperGreatFriend. His LP of D1+D2 is one of his earliest videos, and one of his all greats.

  • @hesiolite
    @hesiolite Рік тому +104

    I was impressed when you said this was a dreamcast game. I thought it was ps2.
    Definitely the most visually impressive dreamcast games I've seen so far.

    • @Dr.W.Krueger
      @Dr.W.Krueger Рік тому +6

      It's pretty uneven at times, from a technical standpoint.

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 Рік тому +19

      It looks great, but I can name a hundred dreamcast games that look a lot better. Dreamcast looks better than ps2 anyway

    • @Love-Sensibility
      @Love-Sensibility 11 місяців тому

      As if that's gonna change my mind about ps2. I still love the ps2, best system I got

    • @peppermillers8361
      @peppermillers8361 9 місяців тому

      ​@drunkensailor112 ehhh, depends on the game. I would say it's on par with some of the best the PS2 had to offer.

    • @Sonyboj
      @Sonyboj 8 місяців тому +1

      You think D2 on dreamcast looks as good technically as god of war,final fantasy XII and re4?

  • @RelativelyBest
    @RelativelyBest Рік тому +30

    Really, they should just have worked Dracula into all of this somehow while they were at it.

  • @doomerzan7824
    @doomerzan7824 Рік тому +23

    I think what really holds this game together is the character interactions, at least for me. For some reason this game is really special to me, it sort of makes me feel bad for latching onto something that is so extremely flawed so hard.

  • @bobbymacpherson3079
    @bobbymacpherson3079 8 місяців тому +22

    The idea of a creator having 'actors' play different roles in narratively distinct pieces of art goes back to Osamu Tezuka, of Astroboy fame, who had a roster of character designs that he would re-use, usually with the same name, in all his comics.

  • @btragicart
    @btragicart Рік тому +80

    I kinda just assumed Laura was selectively mute in this game. She shows a bit of hesitancy before speaking rather than speaking outright. But because most things in the story are made unclear, it's more of an assumption and makes it confusing as to why she doesn't speak throughout the game. Even if the devs didn't want her speaking during gameplay, she hardly talks during cutscenes. So who knows

  • @atothed84
    @atothed84 Рік тому +23

    It does appear quite interesting despite being at odds with itself, gameplay and story wise. Still, it's one of those games that I'd like to play someday. The Dreamcast is full of hidden gems.
    I was one of those early adopters of the Dreamcast, believing it was the next great console after loving the Saturn. Alas, what will never be.
    I look forward to seeing your review of Enemy Zero as well. Another one I wanted to get but never did.

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +5

      A friend of mine got a Dreamcast right after it came out, and I have a lot of great memories playing stuff like PSO and Cannon Spike. I picked one up a few years later after it was discontinued and got a bunch of games for dirt cheap. Can hardly afford anything nowadays, unfortunately.
      I'm finishing up my Enemy Zero playthrough now, so the video should be out in a few days!

    • @quademasters249
      @quademasters249 Рік тому

      @@dungeonchill You can emulate many of these old games. I had fond memories of my DC but, I have no real desire to play on one again. I'd rather emulate.

  • @PrinceAkaiVtuber
    @PrinceAkaiVtuber Рік тому +30

    Parasite Eve's even weirder cousin

  • @blockeontheleafeon
    @blockeontheleafeon Рік тому +43

    Wow. "The Thing" is a real life party game and now it's a Soap Opera. What can't John Carpender do?

  • @da_roachdogjr
    @da_roachdogjr Рік тому +8

    I've seen D2 mentioned in several channels that I like, but none of them actually showed it.
    Good video as always.

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +3

      Thanks, Pulse. Glad you could finally see some gameplay.

  • @EarthboundX
    @EarthboundX Рік тому +52

    Isn't it somewhat implied that Laura actually eats David's body after he dies during those eight days, and that might be why she doesn't speak, being traumatised by having to resort to cannibalize to stay alive? Been years since I watched a playthrough, or a review of this. But I seem to recall that's something people theorized. It's why she finally speaks at the end of the game, having been sent back in time, and see's David is alive again, which resolves her guilt so she can speak again. Her not talking at the start of then game before she might have had to resort to cannibalism definitely puts a knot in that theory though.
    I don't know, those are just the vague memories I have of my experience watching someone else play the game.

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +38

      That is an interesting theory, and there is a mention of cannibalism at one point. I can’t remember exactly what was said. It wasn’t directly related to her chowing down on David, but it could have been implying that and I just didn’t catch it. But then yeah, it doesn’t really explain why she doesn’t talk in the opening.
      There are so many moments in the story where some connections almost make sense, but then you remember something else that makes it fall apart. It’s fun to think about though.

    • @EarthboundX
      @EarthboundX Рік тому +32

      @@dungeonchill Isn't there a line from Kimberly to some effect of how it's strange she seems to be fine without having eaten for over a week or something? I think that's a line that heavily implies she ate David's body.

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +37

      Yeah, Kim does say that at one point.
      Wild theory here, but could it be that David’s wounds are related to him feeding parts of himself to her? He seems to be fine in the first flashback, and then starts talking about his wounds after that. He also mentions the color coming back to her face, and what else would they have been eating the whole time? That’s really sick and crazy and probably not it at all. He had a gun so he was probably hunting, but the idea popped into my head.

    • @RubykonCubes3668
      @RubykonCubes3668 Рік тому +20

      Tbf, cannibalism was a huge deal in the first D, so that theory sounds rather plausible.

    • @A_Stereotypical_Heretic
      @A_Stereotypical_Heretic 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@EarthboundXit implies that she is meant for something greater, kept alive and healthy by metaphysical forces. She is the flower child afterall 🤷

  • @Esoliken
    @Esoliken Рік тому +30

    Oh man. I remember when Square Enix wanted to do the whole digital actor thing and we got The Spirits Within. Well, we do have digital actors now, but they are called vtubers.

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +9

      Digital actors are alive and well.
      Also,The Spirits Within… Wow, I think I completely blocked that movie from my memory, haha.

    • @darkfalzx
      @darkfalzx Рік тому +2

      @@dungeonchill Doesn't Supermassive Games do the whole "Digital Actor" thing in all of their games? Although it very well just might be because they model their characters after the voice/mocap actors.

    • @Dizerfullpower
      @Dizerfullpower Рік тому

      vtubers are supposed to be inhabited by some meatsack though, making them more relatable with the herd

    • @Esoliken
      @Esoliken Рік тому

      @@Dizerfullpower that's essentially how these digital actors were suppose to work.

    • @Dizerfullpower
      @Dizerfullpower Рік тому

      @@Esoliken were they? from what I remember about FF Spirits Within actress and the like, the fact of an actual person "putting soul into the digital model" wasn't capitalized on by the marketing people, so I remember this more like virtual influencers of today

  • @TheViciousVendetta
    @TheViciousVendetta Рік тому +3

    I love your scripts!! Thanks for putting so much effort into this review, it really shows.

  • @TheSylvirr
    @TheSylvirr Рік тому +11

    i love this game, its the first game I EVER beat on my dreamcast, and I have spent over 20 years trying to tell people about it and people think I had a fever dream

  • @CallMeSugarMilk
    @CallMeSugarMilk 8 місяців тому +1

    I swear D2’s front cover art was always one of “those” DC games that stood out to me as a kid growing up. Never had the chance to play it but it always peaked my curiosity from what I was able to make of it from looking at it’s jewel case.
    All these years later, I can see what this game was all about and what I missed out on.
    Gotta say too that something about how game devs designed these gory, grotesque, body horror like creatures back in the day during the early Y2K era is something that I don’t think could ever be replicated in today’s gaming. It just screams “Yup, these were the Dreamcast/PS2 graphic days.”

  • @edvard-swift3645
    @edvard-swift3645 Рік тому +3

    Gosh I remember my Dad getting D for the playstation it was truly the last game system we played together so many memories with these games😊

  • @matman17
    @matman17 6 місяців тому

    00:21:34 - There's an audio error not sure if it can be fixed. Just thought I'd try to help.

  • @goatbone
    @goatbone Рік тому +7

    Nice. I skipped the spoiler section because I do want to play it for myself some time. Looking forward to Enemy Zero!

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, give it a go! I really enjoyed it.
      I’m playing Enemy Zero right now, so next video will be out soon!

  • @RWSCOTT
    @RWSCOTT Рік тому +5

    great content! this is/was my favorite DC game, because it caught me at the right time & I really *really* enjoyed it's haunting, quiet vibe (Dream remake: this game rebuilt w/the Long Dark's engine). re: it's lopsided narrative, I think you're close in the title suggesting 'soap opera', closer I think would be *Giallo* ... where mood & subtext is more important than a linear narrative & supernatural elements mix w/reality in random and often unexplained ways (like Jennifer Connely's character in Phenomena, w/her unexplained psychic control of insects). That's my theory; Eno was emulating Argento's style and wasn't worrying about a logical story.. or things were cut for brevity, tho that wouldnt' explain the inclusion of lengthy character moments, so maybe not. btw, I don't know if you knew this but didn't mention it but **spoiler** in most of the boss fights there's a moth (or butterfly) that appears onscreen that you can shoot for massive damage ->>>>this is what the pistol w/the laser sight is good for. peace! RW

  • @JazzyUte
    @JazzyUte 7 місяців тому +1

    Long before I ever got a Dreamcast (my parents would get it for me in Christmas '99), I remember this game being heavily linked to the previews of the machine. I kinda became obsessed over it, even tho it was just random clips, plot points and photos. Funny enough, though, despite how obsessed I was over it in the lead up to the release of the Dreamcast, I never actually owned or played the game.

  • @CodeNameX001
    @CodeNameX001 9 місяців тому +15

    Laura's reappearance in different games with slightly different names is clearly inspired by Osamu Tezuka's "Star System".
    Put simply, Tezuka would hold lnto some of his favorite design, and would reuse them for different works with the implication that they were actors being cast for different roles. He would go so far as to play out the ups and downs in their career.
    A good example would be the character "Rock Holmes"; originally a Sherlock Holmes inspired child-detective, he'd appear in over 50 titles as different characters. It goes so far that you can even look at his appearances over the years and see him age, and see when the meta-character takes a turn for more serious roles in his career.
    A LOT of Japanese creators try to recreate this element, but very few are successful.

    • @kwesmichalak9742
      @kwesmichalak9742 8 місяців тому +1

      What an interesting bit of art history 😙 !
      I knew that Go Nagai did that quite often with his favorite character designs and its totally possible that Tezuka inspired his style.
      Oh that reminded me, somebody should review DevilMan for the Playstation 😗!

  • @monkshoodable
    @monkshoodable Рік тому +7

    I think that most of your questions about the narrative are due to Kenji Eno being a total freak. RIP Kenji: you brilliant madman.

  • @GODhandCooper
    @GODhandCooper 6 місяців тому +1

    I played this game when it originally came out, it was pretty crazy especially the ending.
    The enemies w the human faces was pretty disturbing tho and you could sometimes hear the human faces making their own sad or pain noises separate from the monsters, crazy stuff

  • @sixarms
    @sixarms Рік тому +1

    Another great review. I enjoyed playing this game as well. I did think it was strange the main character Laura did not talk in the game, but, after your playing the game, I looked at Laura as almost a person playing the video game. Listening to everyone, and not speaking.

  • @garyisfat
    @garyisfat Рік тому +5

    whats the music you use for transitions sick stuff

  • @opinionpaladin6007
    @opinionpaladin6007 9 місяців тому +1

    "Assuming you dont suck" is a very funny prerequisite to seeing the end of a game

  • @maxmatson1578
    @maxmatson1578 Рік тому +3

    The game developers warp are one of my favorites of all time! I was finally able to track down an English version of D2 for the Dreamcast. plus, I was able to get a Japanese version for cheap to. I'm so glad to finally have it in my collection it's a game I wanted for so long!.. warp 4 Life!!!✋✌️

  • @eclipseslayer98
    @eclipseslayer98 8 місяців тому +1

    10:51 Sorry, but it has mags, not clips. Clips haven't been used since WWI.

  • @claudebanthus6511
    @claudebanthus6511 Рік тому +2

    it's been only 2 videos i've seen referencing it but i'm convinced that la blue girl is a staple running joke for this channel

  • @iamnoone3099
    @iamnoone3099 5 місяців тому

    For graphics and presentation, putting a kaico adapter and an Mclassic hook up for the dreamcast makes you realize the effort and detail in the game. The trees moving, brightness of snow, and the eerie metal in the facilties

  • @semeras
    @semeras 10 місяців тому +1

    dang I've played so many videogames just to be able to say that I played them and this is the third time I found out about a game I've never heard of at all from you. well done. you make some of my favorite videos on the entire internet 🏆

  • @zise9745
    @zise9745 Рік тому +7

    the weapon reloads look pretty decent for it's time

  • @ZekeAxel
    @ZekeAxel 2 місяці тому +1

    16:28 - the cassette player says Yokoi, probaby because it originally said Sony, but hearing how the dev disliked them, he changed it Yokoi as reference to Nintendo exec Gunpei Yokoi?

  • @julian0451
    @julian0451 Рік тому +7

    this game certainly goes places. good stuff, dc!

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому

      That’s an understatement! Thanks for the support!

  • @penguinreloaded7756
    @penguinreloaded7756 Рік тому +1

    Great video! D2 was a cool game that I remember finishing in 2 or 3 sittings. It was winter at the time & the Dreamcast was dead. I picked up it, and probably 10-12 other dreamcast games, for $9.99 each at a now defunct store called Comp USA. I later picked up D on my Saturn and enjoyed it, but not nearly as much as D2. I havent played Enemy Zero, but it is on my bucket list. - While extremely unlikely, it would be cool if someone rereleased the three games to be more easily accessible. I am not suggesting thay they are incredible games, but they are worth the time & experience. Kenji Eno had a fascinating creative mind. I do think the games would be appreciated if more people could easily access them.

  • @Nick_Lavigne
    @Nick_Lavigne 7 місяців тому

    I played this game in December of 2000 during a snow storm and it was excellent. I love the theme (menu) song.

  • @MarquisLeary34
    @MarquisLeary34 Рік тому +1

    D2, that one stuck with me. A game I picked up along with the Dreamcast (that and Project Justice) and damn, i STILL remember that scene near the the end that hurt...

  • @angelluna9599
    @angelluna9599 7 місяців тому

    Correct me if I'm wrong but Kimberly, Parker and David also appear in Enemy Zero, so they're digital actors as well, tho I think David got recasted for D2 'cause he looked different in E0 if I remember correctly.

  • @dfailsthemost
    @dfailsthemost 9 місяців тому +1

    Kind of wild how quickly you put videos out.

  • @shisnay
    @shisnay 9 місяців тому +1

    Whats the story behind the violin playing, showercap wearing, winged character/enemy?

  • @wizardwor511
    @wizardwor511 Рік тому

    Love this series of videos. Hope you do more deep dives on obscure and unusual games

  • @hatbros4463
    @hatbros4463 Рік тому +7

    The D in the first game stood for Dracula, so what does the D in D2 stand for?

  • @SegaCDUniverse
    @SegaCDUniverse Рік тому +1

    Oh boy, I remember those title cards at the end. I was like wtf does this have anything to do with this story..

  • @adamcope6890
    @adamcope6890 Рік тому

    Absolutely love your channel. You’ve really come into your own style.

  • @thequester8271
    @thequester8271 6 місяців тому +1

    I just think Laura being mute in this game is just her having some kind of social anxiety or something. The first time she talks, she's literally forced to in order to enter the lab (it takes her a few seconds to actually speak). The second time she talks, it's in a moment of joy when sees David alive again in the ending (maybe showing that she will start talking more often in the future). In every moment in between, she takes on more of an observational role (kinda like the player, I guess??). I personally find it quite relatable how she's mute except when it's crucial or when she's emotional and is otherwise just observing the situation so she can figure out how to help the characters. I also personally just like when a silent protagonist suddenly talks once or only a handful of times, as that makes what they say a lot more impactful.
    Also, I don't understand the whole "being quiet = creepy/weird" thing. Like I literally do not see the correlation between the two.

  • @frankboogaard88
    @frankboogaard88 Рік тому +2

    From a story perspective, I see it: Laura is actually her mother, while Jenny is the actual Laura. It is all in the mind of the mother, after the plane crash. That idea would explain most of the jank ;)

  • @HoopleBogart
    @HoopleBogart 10 місяців тому

    This is my new favorite youtube channel that isn't Ross's Game Dungeon. nice moves bro

  • @Marsiekuma
    @Marsiekuma Рік тому +2

    If I were David, that shout & cling from a stranger would be so weird.. Like wtf? 😂

    • @peppermillers8361
      @peppermillers8361 9 місяців тому

      He said that he felt a sense of deja vu around her, so it probably felt "right" to him in that moment, even if he was mega confused.

  • @LoneWolfAudio0524
    @LoneWolfAudio0524 Рік тому

    I didn't own a Dreamcast, and by the time this game came out I couldn't rent one. This is the ONLY game on the system I wish I could have played. It always held a special draw for me. I finally broke down and read the Game Script on Gamefaqs, and then watched a lets play back about 8 yearsgo. Tried to emulate it myself, and it worked, but I couldn't swap discs. All this to say I always wish I could have played this, and I'm glad I finally found someone doing so. I agree with nearly everything you said about the story. I still really liked it however, despite its many issues. It was something special, and I wish more could have come from it. It's forever doomed to obscurity on a console just as ill-fated.

  • @gonzobucket
    @gonzobucket Рік тому +2

    Really enjoying your videos. Stay chill.

  • @BioPhoenixReviews
    @BioPhoenixReviews Рік тому +1

    from what i played of this i did kinda like it but it felt really slow to get around the map but i hope i can play through it one day. i do like the whole RPG aspect to the combat, i found it to be a very interesting idea similair to parasite eve wish is a cool thing to compare to

    • @dungeonchill
      @dungeonchill  Рік тому +3

      It’s a slow burn of a game, both in gameplay and story. It’s worth playing through if you can get into the groove of it.
      Parasite Eve has a more fun and engaging combat system. Especially with the weapon and armor upgrades, but yeah, I can see that comparison.

    • @BioPhoenixReviews
      @BioPhoenixReviews Рік тому

      @@dungeonchill i definitely want to beat it for sure. and yes Parasite Eve is a classic for a reason

  • @DarlingMissDarling
    @DarlingMissDarling Рік тому +2

    I have a strong feeling the boss fight @ 19:20 has left some _significant_ impressions on more than a few developing minds lol goddamn

    • @Rebrn-bk5em
      @Rebrn-bk5em 9 місяців тому +2

      I saw that bit and immediately thought of the “that’s a p**is” meme just switched around

    • @DarlingMissDarling
      @DarlingMissDarling 9 місяців тому

      @@Rebrn-bk5em haha right! I was like "why are we shooting this chick in the chooch?!"

  • @friedspyder4571
    @friedspyder4571 3 місяці тому

    I remember fishing a copy of this game out of the bargain bin of a gamestop when the Dreamcast was still gripping onto life. Game was certainly not what i was expecting, (though Im not sure what i was expecting, res evil i think?) but with Dreamcast games that ended up being the norm, each game was its own trip.

  • @ParappatheRapper
    @ParappatheRapper Рік тому +2

    I think Laura's "mostly silent" in the beginning, and then talking more toward the end is supposed to be like a growth or development of the character. I didn't play the game myself but it seems to me it's supposed to be like a "She went through so much and it helped her come out of her shell and start talking to people because she had to in order to survive." kind of thing. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit but when it asks her to state her name, the scene's timing and setup just feels like a "Look at this, this is a big moment. She's going to speak." Also, when she does speak you can tell it's kind of strained, she's clearly not super comfortable with it and there's some pain in her voice like it's not easy for her to do.
    That's my interpretation. It looks like it kind of wanted to be MGS1 which was released a year earlier. Don't quote me on that, but what with the real life footage of events and trying to make it feel relevant to the real world really reminds me of MGS1.

    • @peppermillers8361
      @peppermillers8361 9 місяців тому +1

      It was either that or she was unable to speak due to the whole memory thing or the loss of David. With this plot, you can only guess.
      The MGS1 comparison isn't too far off, some people thought the ending that lists all human atrocities at the end is a parody of MGS1's nuke listing. If it was a parody, then frankly if the ending wasn't so obnoxious, the joke would've hit better.

  • @cuttleknight9454
    @cuttleknight9454 6 місяців тому

    here about Lara being a virtual actor just makes me think of Final Fantasy The Spirits Within, they wanted to do the same thing with the lead from that.

  • @JohnofGwinnett
    @JohnofGwinnett 11 місяців тому

    23:35 omg haha THANK YOU. This is why I have a really, _really_ hard time feeling satisfied with the ending of Petscop. I totally get that the entire story was left ambiguous intentionally so that interpretation can be more subjective, but *my gosh* is it impossible for me to derive _any_ meaning from the story like at all because of the lack of strings tying things together makes it so that I can’t even begin to _subjectively_ interpret the story, because _objectively_ I have NO IDEA what is going on in that story 😂 obv I kind of get it, but tbh I feel like at this point I have more of a grasp of the plot of Kingdom Hearts than I do Petscop, and let me tell you, considering how many explanation videos I have watched comparatively between the two games, Petscop should 100% be my most understood piece of fiction ever, but somehow I am still left entirely confused, because _no one_ seems to be capable to gleaning any kind of solid plot from the dang thing 😭

  • @Lucifronz
    @Lucifronz Рік тому

    Quite the unexpected visit from your grandmother. I'll button up, grandma, chill!

  • @bullno1
    @bullno1 Рік тому +1

    Is this in anyway related to D4: Dark Dream Don't Die?

    • @peppermillers8361
      @peppermillers8361 9 місяців тому

      Absolutely not, that's SWERY. D4, Deadly Premonition, and Spy Fiction have better writing than Kenji Eno's Laura trilogy.

  • @zillzultraboy
    @zillzultraboy Рік тому

    Between this game, Maken X, Shemue, & Code Veronica, the Dreamcast was awesome! Still my favorite console!

  • @ZyxthePest
    @ZyxthePest Рік тому

    I love when Laura learns the knucklepuck.

  • @jeepowner2675
    @jeepowner2675 7 місяців тому

    I think there was a part in that game where you got a flame thrower and that's about as far as I got. Dreamcast was an interesting system to own for sure.

  • @bschrdr07
    @bschrdr07 10 місяців тому

    This feels like such a weird direction to take the Mighty Ducks franchise, but I'm here for it.

  • @a.m.pietroschek1972
    @a.m.pietroschek1972 11 місяців тому

    Your nonchalance about warlocks & wizards wrecking mankind or the entire universe (Lovecraftian) really impressed me. I even apologies for having forgotten the `please´ in my Enemy Zero Hot Blonde comment. 🤗 `Ban alien-cockblock!´

  • @SwagaTron-qq4lq
    @SwagaTron-qq4lq 5 місяців тому

    Kind of interesting how the main character walks in the snow....IN HEELS

  • @louisvictor3473
    @louisvictor3473 10 місяців тому

    10:50 its magazine, not clip.

  • @hawkbirdtree3660
    @hawkbirdtree3660 10 місяців тому

    This is a pretty chill dungeon, bro 😀

  • @hxllywoo
    @hxllywoo 6 місяців тому

    Love this! It was one of my favorite games growing up. Would you ever review parasite Eve?

  • @Brucedoos
    @Brucedoos Рік тому

    Looking forward to trying this one.
    Great videos! New sub 👍

  • @SegaCDUniverse
    @SegaCDUniverse Рік тому +1

    My disc was scratched so I had to skip one of the cut scenes and use a cheat for more health by the end. lol. Cool game though!

  • @Pai3000
    @Pai3000 9 місяців тому

    Maybe I'm wrong but I'd swear that it's "Regret of the Wind" and not the other way around. Anyway. Just discovered your channel, watched some videos and subscribed : )

  • @ChronoTriggerHappy
    @ChronoTriggerHappy Рік тому +1

    all i got from this game was "damn, the shadow is one fucked up evil the way he just inverted that little girl into a puddle"

  • @erikreber3695
    @erikreber3695 5 місяців тому

    A warlock and space magic AND Dracula??? Hot dog someone is hijacking my fever dreams with a time machine and I think it's my cellphone's fault...

  • @AN7HON7
    @AN7HON7 Рік тому +1

    R.I.P. Kenji Eno

  • @Donna230
    @Donna230 9 місяців тому

    I loved this game. I hope they make another one.

  • @ninjacat230
    @ninjacat230 9 місяців тому

    I never knew about freelook, and seeing those items without seemingly being able to pick them up frustrated me to no end.

  • @Lucifronz
    @Lucifronz Рік тому +1

    Experimenting with an idea in a game and then leaving it in even if it didn't work is pretty typical of developers, tbh. After all, they put in a lot of effort to make that section, so scrapping it altogether would be costly.
    I personally don't mind when scrapped ideas are left in unless it absolutely *sucks.* When you recognize a flaw in your game and leave it in to make the game worse, that's pretty unforgiveable. Maybe they knew the section was fun, but was the wrong direction for the game and decided it would just be an interesting break from the standard gameplay.

  • @VillaVivace
    @VillaVivace Рік тому +2

    Wow, what an intense, messy, experimental game. Its flaws stick out pretty badly, but for some strange reason, they make the game more iconic...?
    I could definitely see myself playing through/watching Eno's games soon enough. I am fascinated by these incoherent, yet engaging plots. Oh and the fact they mixed so many styles of gameplay into one game.... It's a decision all right, but damn if it isn't entertaining to see and experience for yourself.

  • @SantaFishes101
    @SantaFishes101 Рік тому +1

    oh my god, it's so clear to me suddenly lol...all these games are based on movies because she is an actress. and the director is probably both a fan of these movies and this type of girl (or actually, there are a lot of pretty ladies who reappear, and some others, so maybe it's not so specific?). so strange but they all seem pretty good!

  • @wolfywonder8480
    @wolfywonder8480 7 місяців тому

    Honestly, it sounds like the two paralleled sides of the story were initially meant to be one larger narrative. Like, David’s dad was supposed to be Laura’s mom’s husband. The monsters were supposed to be created by the energy of the Shadow seeping out and corrupting things. Kim was possibly initially taken by a monster and cloned in the lab before being found later, implying that someone’s controlling the monsters (either the warlocks or David’s dad). If they weren’t going to tie the two halves of the story together, they could’ve heavily benefited from two protagonists - Laura who deals with the warlocks and Shadow, and someone else, who deal with all the monsters and lichen drugs. But maybe there just wasn’t enough space for something like that

  • @aperezdeal
    @aperezdeal Рік тому +1

    I remember renting this from blockbuster for my dreamcast

  • @TJF588
    @TJF588 9 місяців тому

    The subtitles using three different spellings for the little kid's name, excellence~

  • @BryceCzirr-jz7ju
    @BryceCzirr-jz7ju 4 місяці тому

    10:51 - Magazine.
    11:11 - Correct.

  • @DaveVoyles
    @DaveVoyles 9 місяців тому

    I remember reading about this in Dreamcast magazine in my social studies class in 2000 and thinking “how is this connected to D?”

  • @SirWilliamKidney
    @SirWilliamKidney 7 місяців тому

    Since the D stood for Dracula... I guess this is Dracula 2: Oops All Mutants? Eno had some weird name choices lol

  • @napoleonfeanor
    @napoleonfeanor Рік тому +1

    Digital actors was an idea floating around in the late 90s and early 00s. Mostly a thing for brand recognition. Never became a thing.

    • @RubykonCubes3668
      @RubykonCubes3668 10 місяців тому

      it kind of did become a thing though, just look at the Dark Pictures Anthology of games

    • @peppermillers8361
      @peppermillers8361 9 місяців тому

      It's a thing in some circles. Tezuka did it, SWERY does it too. Those are the ones that come to mind so far.

  • @ValisX
    @ValisX Рік тому

    18:40 so the story is basically Sephiroth from FF7...
    And 19:25 queue the memelords

  • @PinchyTheKittyGirl
    @PinchyTheKittyGirl 7 місяців тому

    HE DID NOT JUST BRING UP LA BLUE GIRL. I haven't thought about that since I was a kid!

  • @Cheezmonka
    @Cheezmonka 8 місяців тому +1

    Some things about this game make me think of Deadly Premonition....

  • @SalusFuturistics
    @SalusFuturistics 3 місяці тому

    I highly recommend the Movie "Blood Glacier" if People want more "The Thing" - Themed Movies.

  • @shan9usfc
    @shan9usfc Рік тому +2

    Wow, it even has a PSG-1, a sniper variant of the G3 rifle.
    I am in-loved already.