Awesome, I’ve been playing with a similar deck. Resolving ocean feels very good. I like threatening roar as an option to protect ocean and reversal with skyscraper. It also serves a similar purpose of baiting out heavy storm like legacy of yata. Return from the different dimension is also a fun way to get an ocean and stratos back during the standby phase as a late game bomb, but it’s very bricky early on.
The main deck looks solid, but I would find a place for Gemini Lancer to make sure the spark and miracle are live. No Heavy Storm nor Future Fusion anywhere seems wild. I doubt Wildheart is that strong or useful. I would side NoC against all the HRC decks, outside of spark, they give you a lot of troubles. For the sake of optimization, put Cyber Twin Dragon in the extra deck.
thanks for the list mate. I played Hero beat for quite some time now and changed to Vayu because it was to struggley against many decks. That list gives me some hope for heroes in Edison! But I have few questions: Why no FF? How to Side? Why Grand Neos? Why no Mole in your list when you play Grand Neos and no Mind control/ Brain? thanks in advance, great Vid!
No BC/MC because I don't play Cyber Valley or any tuners. Taking an earth/water to fuse away with miracle is far too niche. I tend to side out 1 alius if I put in fossil dyna, to not open too many normal summons. Other cards you can side out are Legacy of yata garasu, hero blast, starlight road/solemn judgment (depending on the matchup). For the other questions you will find the answer amongst the comments.
do you not like call of the haunted because it's weak to oppression? it feels strong in this build to get fast value out of stratos and ocean. love the build and really like your mindset for the deck
Call loses to oppression and heavy, as I would need to set it next to my defensive card if I want to have any point of interation. Without tuners or tribute summons it also loses value, hence why I opted not to run it.
I'm surprised there is no skill drain in main or side. Do you find it not impactful enough ? Also I was thinking about second Captain Gold in the main, but the fear to brick on too many normal summon is real ^^
I don’t really want to draw Captain Gold and he's recyclable with Ocean. As for Skill Drain I prefer SIM against the dark combo decks like Vayu. Also Skill Drain shuts off Prisma, Stratos and Ocean so it makes my deck worse too. Coupled with the fact that Edison format is slow and comprised more of the battle phase and beatsticks than other formats, so flipping Skill Drain isn’t a guaranteed victory as it is in some later formats.
@@FrozenCardGaming Ah ok perfectly understable. I like how structured your answers are, like your videos. Keep up the good work ! My friend played against you at Lille. He was playing Amaryllis and learnt a lot, didn't enjoy Banisher of radiance tho lmao
I've been playtesting this and really like it, this list allows me to feel very safe to play a slower game while everyone else is speeding up. I did main an mst and a second karma cut for some extra removal instead of 1 upstart and 1 legacy, but i will bring this to locals next week and see how it fares in paper. Thanks for sharing! How do you feel about siding two copies of black horn of heaven against blackwing/machina/quickdraw shenanigans? i've tested it a bit and had it be very good a couple of times (i played it over oppression).
You could play Black Horn of Heaven, issue is when they don't commit to a synchro summon you're stuck with a Black Horn. And it's not something you want to use on say Bora SS, either. I'd be more inclined to have it vs QD/Machina, but then oppression is generally better as it stops lonefire>tytannial or flip hamster as well as being continous.
@@FrozenCardGaming yes that makes sense! my playtesting might also not have been against the cream of the crop either, as they never baited out by not going into the synchro in m2 haha. anyway, thanks for the reply and again for the list!
I tried it but the issue is it doesn't work with miracle fusion outside of being an E-Hero and whilst you can honest to easily trigger the effect you already need to be playing for it to work
Yes! One issue I noticed with this deck, as opposed to Vayu or Blackwing is the more draw traps you play the worse they become. Seeing one is great but two can be very detrimental, as Hero cannot deal with established boards in the same way BW can.
@@simonsapinoso3661 I’m assuming it’s left over from a time mole was included in the list. Hero beat generally has open space in the extra deck anyway.
Correct! I didn't want to play into oppression more than necessary coupled with the fact that foolishing 2 heroes doesn't do as much in this deck as in diva hero. It also plays into heavy/black rose
@@FrozenCardGaming If you said that in the vid i missed it. can you just add them to the vid? Dont even bother with music. The duel sounds are enough by themselves. At the very least, make it more obvious that you have replays. Use a flag at the beginning of the vid or something
I considered Lancer! However it not being searchable and only 1800 led me to exclude him. 2 Ocean comes up because you want to make sure he's always available to search. Say you needed to dump him earlier to make Miracle live. Or if they banish Ab0, you want to have the option of searching another water for Miracle
This guy sold us all on cyber valley so that he can maindeck cyber dragon
The true purpose of the Valley theory
I love Hero Beat and how much it can atapt to own personal Playstyle. Great Deck!
Beautiful deck bro !
Great idea and gorgeous cards 😵💫 Gotta get to testing this
Decent build I like it I play it slightly differently from mine but good explanation. Heros is fun and my favorite cheers !!
Awesome, I’ve been playing with a similar deck. Resolving ocean feels very good. I like threatening roar as an option to protect ocean and reversal with skyscraper. It also serves a similar purpose of baiting out heavy storm like legacy of yata.
Return from the different dimension is also a fun way to get an ocean and stratos back during the standby phase as a late game bomb, but it’s very bricky early on.
Awesome vid! Would love to see your take on hero frog next
The main deck looks solid, but I would find a place for Gemini Lancer to make sure the spark and miracle are live.
No Heavy Storm nor Future Fusion anywhere seems wild.
I doubt Wildheart is that strong or useful.
I would side NoC against all the HRC decks, outside of spark, they give you a lot of troubles.
For the sake of optimization, put Cyber Twin Dragon in the extra deck.
How is this deck taking the meta by storm? I’m confused
Lmao
thought the same, no gameplay nor results shown 😂
He's talking in future tense.
You are the GOAT brother !!!! Please make a better vayu deck. I was thinking 1 shura with 1 Icarus
thanks for the list mate. I played Hero beat for quite some time now and changed to Vayu because it was to struggley against many decks. That list gives me some hope for heroes in Edison!
But I have few questions:
Why no FF?
How to Side?
Why Grand Neos?
Why no Mole in your list when you play Grand Neos and no Mind control/ Brain?
thanks in advance, great Vid!
No BC/MC because I don't play Cyber Valley or any tuners. Taking an earth/water to fuse away with miracle is far too niche.
I tend to side out 1 alius if I put in fossil dyna, to not open too many normal summons. Other cards you can side out are Legacy of yata garasu, hero blast, starlight road/solemn judgment (depending on the matchup).
For the other questions you will find the answer amongst the comments.
@@FrozenCardGamingif you side out an alius, do you also side out a spark?
This is what i was going to take to locals this week but the hurricane 🌀 changed my plans 😅
Love the wildheart in side.
I main one and side 2 lol it snaps with skyscraper
Earth hero go brrr
do you not like call of the haunted because it's weak to oppression? it feels strong in this build to get fast value out of stratos and ocean. love the build and really like your mindset for the deck
Call loses to oppression and heavy, as I would need to set it next to my defensive card if I want to have any point of interation. Without tuners or tribute summons it also loses value, hence why I opted not to run it.
Would love a vayu turbo deck list next!
I would add 5 headed in the extra, could come up. Nice list!!
Great idea!
I'm surprised there is no skill drain in main or side. Do you find it not impactful enough ?
Also I was thinking about second Captain Gold in the main, but the fear to brick on too many normal summon is real ^^
I don’t really want to draw Captain Gold and he's recyclable with Ocean. As for Skill Drain I prefer SIM against the dark combo decks like Vayu. Also Skill Drain shuts off Prisma, Stratos and Ocean so it makes my deck worse too. Coupled with the fact that Edison format is slow and comprised more of the battle phase and beatsticks than other formats, so flipping Skill Drain isn’t a guaranteed victory as it is in some later formats.
@@FrozenCardGaming Ah ok perfectly understable. I like how structured your answers are, like your videos. Keep up the good work !
My friend played against you at Lille. He was playing Amaryllis and learnt a lot, didn't enjoy Banisher of radiance tho lmao
I've been playtesting this and really like it, this list allows me to feel very safe to play a slower game while everyone else is speeding up. I did main an mst and a second karma cut for some extra removal instead of 1 upstart and 1 legacy, but i will bring this to locals next week and see how it fares in paper. Thanks for sharing!
How do you feel about siding two copies of black horn of heaven against blackwing/machina/quickdraw shenanigans? i've tested it a bit and had it be very good a couple of times (i played it over oppression).
You could play Black Horn of Heaven, issue is when they don't commit to a synchro summon you're stuck with a Black Horn. And it's not something you want to use on say Bora SS, either. I'd be more inclined to have it vs QD/Machina, but then oppression is generally better as it stops lonefire>tytannial or flip hamster as well as being continous.
@@FrozenCardGaming yes that makes sense! my playtesting might also not have been against the cream of the crop either, as they never baited out by not going into the synchro in m2 haha. anyway, thanks for the reply and again for the list!
How do you feel about Elemental Hero Voltic?
I tried it but the issue is it doesn't work with miracle fusion outside of being an E-Hero and whilst you can honest to easily trigger the effect you already need to be playing for it to work
I know its a Garnet but since you are on Prisma what if you main 1x Neos and adjust Hero blast?
Table 500
Underrated. Neos puts in work.
I did this with oversouls
I considered it, but grabbing back the Neos would only be discard fodder and there aren't enough worthwhile discard outlets in this deck.
Do you think Upstart Goblins are better than Jar of Greeds?
Yes! One issue I noticed with this deck, as opposed to Vayu or Blackwing is the more draw traps you play the worse they become. Seeing one is great but two can be very detrimental, as Hero cannot deal with established boards in the same way BW can.
Question, what is the purpose of Grand Neos in the extra? Is it just for the odd case we would need to super poly an opponent's grand mole?
you cannot superpoly into neos fusions
It’s for prisma reveal to dump grand mole
im confused by this too, because there is no mole in this list
That's gonna be tough @@Edisonclub2010
@@simonsapinoso3661 I’m assuming it’s left over from a time mole was included in the list. Hero beat generally has open space in the extra deck anyway.
Capt gold is Slept on.
I have 3 different variations of this deck. 🎉
Water , Light and Earth
Did I miss why there si no future fusion in this list?
Correct! I didn't want to play into oppression more than necessary coupled with the fact that foolishing 2 heroes doesn't do as much in this deck as in diva hero. It also plays into heavy/black rose
Is the trap lineup missing a few card or did i miss something
its literally got a tag on the video 15:35
There is a DB download link in the description of all of my deck profiles! You can double check there if there's anything you missed.
Do a little city list ❤️
Thpughts on Gemini Lancer?
I considered it! However it not being searchable and only 1800 led me to exclude him.
Can u play some games on db?
There are DB replays in the description!
@@FrozenCardGaming If you said that in the vid i missed it. can you just add them to the vid? Dont even bother with music. The duel sounds are enough by themselves. At the very least, make it more obvious that you have replays. Use a flag at the beginning of the vid or something
Would Gemini Lancer be good to play instead of the second ocean?
I considered Lancer! However it not being searchable and only 1800 led me to exclude him. 2 Ocean comes up because you want to make sure he's always available to search. Say you needed to dump him earlier to make Miracle live. Or if they banish Ab0, you want to have the option of searching another water for Miracle
whats the purpose of Divine Neos?
If you play Future Fusion and grand mole you can dump 5 and make 2 miracle immediately live.
Hero beat has fallen off?
No brain control?
Brain Control is not very good when you don’t play any tuners or tribute summons to remove the monster once you've taken it
@@FrozenCardGaming what about swords of revealing light?
To buy time to get ocean to resolve?
Or calling the haunted?