I bought a used EM5ii about 4 years ago and paid around € 450 for it. This little machine won me over to Olympus as I was a Canon shooter in the past. I still use it and in the meantime purchases used EM1ii, Pen F and Lumix gx9 and of course many small and light lenses. I you are not shooting fast action in dim light m4/3 should be more than enough for most of us amateurs.
Hi Peter I too have both these cameras and whilst the build quality of the EM5 Mkii is better and feels more solid generally, I actually prefer the EM10 Mkii in actual use on account of how it sits in my hands. The tilting screen is more useful for street photography and with the smaller M4/3 lenses it is a delight to use and carry around. I keep my Olympus F2.8 12-40 Pro on the EM5 Mkii for when very best image quality is needed, but if I had to keep only one, it would have to be the EM10 Mkii as it’s such a little jewel of a camera. Best wishes from the UK to you all in Finland.
Peter - I had both these cameras - the EM10 was and is my go to camera for everyday work travel and portability - now upgraded form a mark 2 to an EM10 mark4 which I find to be even better .The EM5 is perhaps better inasmuch as its weather proofed etc and thus gets used more in autumn / winter .Both are great however and to a degree interchangeable in usage and capability terms.
Flippant comment maybe but I love the on off switch on the EM10ii that is identical to the old OM1 from 1972. It has a 90 degree throw, so it's almost impossible to knock accidentally to the on position in the camera bag.
I still use my OMD-EM10mk2 with Olympus Grip and 12mm f2, 25mm f1.8, 45mm f1.8 and 75mm f1.8 for stills. I do not need anything above this quality in pictures. I never used more ISO than 1600 which still keeps a lot of detail. Usually I shoot between ISO 200 and 800, because of fantastic Olympus IS and high speed prime lenses. Overall Great build quality and customisation (mk3 and mk4 is declining in this department). Body cost me 200 pounds, grip 50 pounds, lenses in total 1000 pounds. For videos I use my Iphone 13 pro, but even 13 makes amazing hdr videos as well. You cannot beat them in this price range.
Good to see new content on some of the lower-cost Olympus cameras, the EM5 Mark II is the camera I use most. My favourite features are the truly small size, classic Olympus looks, high-quality magnesium alloy body, amazing IBIS and creative tools (high res, live comp etc).
Peter I think you’ve nailed it on this review/comparison. I had both these bodies at the same time a year back, using them for general photography and some video work. The EM10ii was for the B roll footage and good backup. I since upgraded to an EM1iii and kept the EM10ii for pocketability and just to throw in any bag when I go out with the 14-40 EZ kit lens. But if I were just moving up from eg camera phone I’d go with the 5 as having more potential to grow. Also look out for the extra grip and battery grip - I had both which gave great handling and longevity when filming.
Among all these Olympus cameras with this shared design the E5-II is IMO the best looking among all. Only that reason is reason enough for me to chose this camera among any Olympus cameras, but also by being an E5 is very capable and I think 16MP is the "sweet spot" in resolution (wish phones would come back to 16MP).
I like the EM10ii best but I haven't seen the EM5ii. They are at positions 1 and 2 definitely. I actually like the black finish on the EM10 ii more than all other OMD cameras.
I think the question boils down to : if you must have only one camera, the E-M5 mk II is the better choice. But if you can afford the luxury of having more than one body, then an E-M10 mk II paired with an OG E-M1 (to stay close to the E-M5 mk II spec sheet / price point, but of course an E-M1 mk II or up is a better choice) works better than a lone E-M5 mk II camera. The E-M5 mk II is much heavier (a 1/3rd !) than a 10 mk II, and doesn't have that many significant improvements : weather sealing - high resolution - optional battery grip with mike input (I may forget some). But the E-M10 mk II also has exclusives not found on the 5.2 : AF trackpad on the rear LCD, flip screen for street photography (many prefer it over the articulated screen of the E-M5.2), OLED viewfinder instead of LCD (moreover it doesn't burn itself to death in direct sunlight, unlike the 5.2 unit which is extremely fragile), integrated puny flash, better controls layout. For everything else, the E-M1 is better than both and not that much bigger than the E-M5.2 (to be fair, the OG E-M1 lacks high res and there's a time limit to the e-shutter). To me the 5.2 is too compromised. If I want to go light on a whim, I grab the 10.2 ; whenever I feel more serious, the 1.2 is my pick.
I'd like an EM1 Mk ii or iii but I'd be fine with it if someone sent me an EM5ii in the mail!🤣 I have an EM5ii just this month. Had a chrome and a black EM10ii for a while. The metal bodies feel nicer for sure but the controls on the top panel of the EM5iii are better. Except that I love the on off switch on the EM10ii that is identical to the old OM1 from 1972.
I purchased my copy of the E-M5ii in 2018, and I have shot with it extensively. I've done weddings, time-lapses, sports, concerts, birthday parties, travels and landscapes with it. It has had very good use, though sadly it has been showing frequent issues (which I regularly service every 6 months). That being said, I have pushed the shutter count to a good 600,000 (will need to check over it).
@@ForsgardPeter the first time I sent it to fix both the LCD screen and the On/off switch. The LCD screen would turn off when you rotate it to selfie mode, but it would take a photo and operate if you touched it. The on/off switch I've had to have fix twice because the camera continued to remain on after it was switched off.
you service it every 6 months! whoa. because something on it broke? I have to say I recently got a em5mk2 2ndhand and not too much later the lcd screen broke.
When I wanted a camera I could leave in the car (I have an EM1 Mk2) I looked at these and decided on the EM5 Mk II, so totally agree with your choice. 2nd hand the price difference isn't a lot and the EM5 had the edge. Paired with the pancake 14-42mm lens its a small package and always ready when you are out without your camera and see something that needs shooting. Great video, thanks.
My first Olympus was precisely the EM10 mark II. And while it met my photographic needs, switching to the EM5 markII was one of the best decisions I ever made. It has become my favorite camera. The quality and versatility it offers me is tremendous. I take it everywhere and it's almost the only one I use. My Nikon D500, sadly though, spends most of its time in storage. Although both can already be considered "old", I doubt that I will change them in the medium term because they give me more than I need.
The EM10ii was also my first Olympus camera and I also own the Nikon D500. Both are great cameras. Like you I also use the Olympus more than the Nikon because it's smaller and with the 25 mm f1.8 allways in my car.
Thanks Peter. I've E-M5ii and E-M1iii. E-M5 is a great compact camera. I use in street fotography and E-M1iii in landscape and nature fotography. The only problem is that you can't use all the functions of olympus workspace with the E-M5ii photos.
There's like a 100 EUR difference between them used. So it's your decision whether that's worth it for the weather sealed magnesium body, and which screen tilt you prefer. And what's available.
My first Olympus was the EM 10 mk ii with extra 40-150 kit lens. I bought it for a trip to Europe. It was and still is an excellent light weight walk about camera. It’s because of this camera that I bought the EM 1 mk ii. I use both regularly.
Thanks Peter. I've had the em5mk2 for several years now and have the battery grip as well. Even though I have an em1mk2 as my main camera i still love the feel of the em5. It just feels solid and never misses a shot. I usually keep the pano 100-400 on it. Love your videos Peter 😉👍📷📷📷📷📷 cheers, Mike
The em5 is probably the only camera 90% of you need especially when paired with pro lenses and then there's the weather sealing and ibis .This camera will do whatever you want provided of course you can locate it in the menu system
I have had the EM 10II for several years, but couldn't pass up a deal from the Olympus site for a refurbished EM 5II. In addition to weather seal, hi res, stacking, etc, I prefer the feel of the EM5II. Weight, size?
I think the EM5 has a better viewfinder (same as the EM1mk 2 and 3) and better IBIS then the EM10. The EM5mk2 also has a separate door for the SD card and a larger battery. Construction quality is also much better, probably the best after the EM1 series and certainly better then the EM5mk3
Peter, always enjoy your videos and always learn something from them. My EDC camera for the last year has been the EM10 Mii which I picked up used and it is a favorite of mine for sure. I also have an older EPL1 but don't use that quite as much. I like the customizable function buttons. I have other Lumix and Nikon cameras but the OM10 is just fun to use.
Thanks to the hi-res shot mode and due to the dimensions of the micro 4/3 sensor, the EM-5ii has become my go-to MF film scanner - 64mpx scans of 645 and 8x6. I have it tethered to a PC with OM Capture -> LR Classic watch NAS folder -> Negative Lab Pro conversion. Used, the 5ii costs far less than any flatbed option and provides superior results. The 5ii was my primary camera for ~3.5 years and it's crazy to see it go for as low as $250 used. Great comparison Peter!
Been shooting with the E-M10 Mark II for a year now and must say I am pretty happy with it. My main focus is portrait and I am considering upgrading to the OM-5, mainly because of build in ND + I love the small body. Would you say as a professional this would be a good upgrade? Ps. Thanks for your videos. Since I am working with Olympus I’ve watched many of them and they’ve been very helpful. Cheers.
It s not technically a built-in ND. It is a feature called LiveND. It gives same results but works differently. It is great for moving water etc. but not that much for portraits. OM-5 is other specs is a great upgrade for E-M10 MKII. To be honest for portraits the upgrade is not very big. What lenses you use? Lenses are more important than the body for portraits. If you do not have a good portrait lens I would look for that instead. OM SYSTEM has two good options, the 45mm F1.8 and the 45mm F1.2 Pro. Both are great lenses. 45mm F1.8 is a great lens for portraits for the smaller bodies. I hope this helps.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks for your reply, appreciate it. The information on the LiveND is helpful. I live in a very bright and sunny place and always have to use filters to make things work, for this reason this new feature stood out to me. It’s good to know that this works different and might not be as helpful as I thought for portraits. Was hoping for the same effect so I could get rid of the filters, since I am always doubting if they affect my overall quality. My main lenses are the 25 and 45 which are doing great!
I have both these bodies. The EM5 has the better features, but I don’t like the quick sleep mode as it sometimes causes me to miss shots. I don’t have this problem with the EM10, which I still really like for its great portability. However, the EM5 feels a bit more sturdy for bigger lenses such as the 12-100 PRO lens.
I got the em10 mark 3s as a back up camera and it surprised me how fun it was to use..I discovered 3 d tracking works very well ..even better than my E-M1 mark 2
I converted to micro 2/3 with an M10 mk 2 & have not looked back. My Canon DSLR is consigned to my store. I am slowly updating my lens collection by searching the used market.
I had e-m1 and e-m10m2 and just sold e-m10m2 last year. For me, electrical shutter speed is important but e-m1 gives just minimum speed of 1/8s, compared to 60s in e-m10m2. If e-m10m2 was weather-sealed and had more ibis stops, I would sold e-m1 instead of e-m10m2. I think e-m10m2 is still all-rounder budget camera for beginner. Anyway in korea olympus had gone and OMDS doesn't service any businesses anymore, I miss olympus mft cameras.
I still prefer the em10 Mkii for stills photography and I don’t shoot video . I edit all pictures on my phone and from my phone I send best images to be printed in photo books . Those who see my work praise it and acknowledge I have the gift to see an image and capture it. Retirement is not a liberating time as some might assume , as babysitting of three little ones and a dog has left me with no free time for writing or gardening , but I compensate by taking the little ones to National Trust properties and that under the cover of being nanny , I get to capture a wide range of images . Since I don’t suffer from shyness - a career of teaching graduates and postgrads , married to running a law department and having a science based background , I will take the shot before anybody notices and if they do , they are unsure what to say to a nanny with her charges , much to the horror of my daughters . Which ever camera you decide to go with , let be one that lets you capture what you are feeling without much thinking . Often my phone can excel where my camera is getting in the way. If being subjective as to which is better then I would have to say both have their place and create powerful and long lasting images . The future of photography will be as far removed from the old heavy cameras of the last century. I would not be surprised if the process came to emulate the human eye and the creative artistry of our own minds . Where that to happen I am sure that it would raise the question of what was genuine and what was not . Peter , you’re review of both these little gems highlights that Olympus should have done more to up grade it’s old cameras by firmware updates , since the drive to ever more pricy pro models coming to market . Where this to happen it would attract many to the brand and create a pool from which there would be growing number of individuals seeking the higher priced models . I think Olympus has a future , but it would achieve this more convincingly by keeping its old cameras relevant to the present by adding more updates . Unless there were a technical reason for why that is not possible , then using the argument that it would make some models redundant is folly . Using the two models you used for this review, one is chiefly weather sealed and aimed at video uses who like to shoot some stills. The other is squarely aimed at photographers and prefer the tilt screen . After all this time there is a place for both and a reason to update the firmware to be universal on both these cameras . To achieve better upgrades to those models would scream that Olympus had a commitment to making their cameras relevant for future users without weakening the latest models . I always thought that you needed only two types of camera . One that was aimed at the pro and the other for those wanting a tool that would do the business , but which could be set up to be truly easy to use by those not wanting to learn photography , but just want to capture stunning images without braking the bank . Camera manufactures are a business , but it is beholding on any business that wishes to have a future to be willing to entice and retain those looking in to the shop window to buy in to the dream and bring them to the pro line through developing their appetite for what else the stable has created . It would be interesting the take of others to the views I express here , which I aim at all manufactures , of which I have string passions for the Olympus stable .
Getting along in years I saw an EM10 Mark iii in a pawn shop and it has replaced my Fuji hsc 10 with the super zoom lens but getting heaver every year. I love the OM Ds and bought my wife a similar to replace her Fuji S9500 or S9600. For some reason here in Thailand on facebook Market there was a flood of Olympus OM D and Pen models and lens rather inexpensive so we now have several of them. The last camera I bought was the EM 10 Markii and with the added had grip is with the 12-50 Marco lens has become my basis set up but have the 75-300 as well. We have all kit lens. My wife grew up in her family photo shop which we finally closed when film died. We just enjoy using the cameras for fun and our gear is satisfactory for that.
Heavily debating buying a used EM5 II in the future for collection purposes. Love the III but that metal body on the II is nice, plus they sell used for like $300 USD. Plus the thing is built like a tank.
In your opinion, is there a great reason to upgrade from EM5 mii to an OM5 ? Is the image quality much better on the OM5 ? I am happy with the EM5ii and have been spending my money on (mostly PRO ) lenses rather than a body upgrade. I mostly take travel pictures, hiking shots and some street photography. Don't use it for video except on rare occasions (I have other cameras for video).
If you have good lenses already and you are happy with your E-M5MKII I do not see any reasons to update. The new features might be a reason if you find them useful.
Another great review Peter I still have a couple of older Olympus cameras and use them with great results. Have you tried the new Panasonic Leica 8mm f1.7 lens yet and how will it work on the Olympus camera body? Gerry
Hi Peter . Thanks for this retro review of both of these wonderful cameras . I chose the EM 10 Mkii because of the tilt screen . I have no interest in video and if I wanted video then I would use my phone . I would have liked to have seen more updates being given to the EM 10 . I concur that a used body from a reliable source and spending the additional cash on lenses - new or used . Thanks again Peter .
I have the original EM5 and like it a lot. One thing I don't like, though, is the EVF. It's pretty coarse and crappy. Makes focusing my adapted Nikkor lenses very hard. Are the EVF s on the EM5II and EM10II considerably better, sharper? That would make a big difference in my decision to upgrade. Thanks.
Hello Peter! I love your channel and have watch it for over a year now! I own a Pen E-PL8 and just used it for my first business photo shoot for a gaming company. Is there anyway to get the focus stacking feature on the Pen cameras? I really need it for their miniatures but didn’t want to purchase another Olympus unless I truly have too. Can you please give me your knowledge on this?
@@ForsgardPeter yes, unfortunately i bought om10m3 and everytime i want to do something more i feel pain inside me haha Some features are missing, some are just locked in specific modes. Friend of my bought mark 2 after i told him to not get mark 3 and he is rly happy. Sadly all the featurs are just software locked and they are not even trying to fix it. I am curious how next om10 and om5 series will look like. In my opinion they should focus on om10. its where new client comes from. If hes not happy from the start, will not stick to the system. Cheers.
@@puch7283 I would like to see the next 10 series camera to offer all the old mark ii had and a bit. I think it is important that photographers who do not desire , need or want video could have a weather sealed camera , without having a swing out screen . If we got a camera like I proposed above , then would it be too much to ask for a small weather sealed lens to match it …. Say , with a f2 aperture . Something like Fuji have done . In reality , I doubt that it will happen . This is because cameras are desired for those who produce videos . The next reason why the entry level model is not important to manufactures is because of the growing ability of cameras in mobile phones . This makes it very difficult to produce a entry model of note that is a photographer’s camera and is not over priced . Finally, manufactures need to sale lenses so, the cameras need to match the expectations of professionals who can afford new gear and features …. Which is a big assumption in this day and age . For now, there are some really good offerings on the second hand market . The bigger pro lenses are too big for the 10 series bodies , which is a pity . Having said all I have , I conclude that it should not stop us from dreaming and if enough of us express our views to the manufacturer , they will listen , but not are not having an easy time themselves and remaining relevant in a shirking market dictates the way cameras and lenses will be made .
Great video Peter, and very great timing on it. ive been wondering if i should take a deal on an em5 ii so i could finally upgrade from my em10 mark ii. i orderes one yesterday! i am now going to sell my em10 ii with 2 Sigma f2.8 lenses and hopefully get enough for a 14-42 f2.8 pro lens or 75mm f1.8 portrait lens.
Hi Peter, I think I know E-M5 Mk.II quite well: it’s MY camera! Quite good equipment, but when we come to FW upgrade, well, I am a bit disappointed: my Zuiko 12-45mm F4 PRO lens does NOT work in Focus Stacking with that camera! And… why? Simply because Olympus, ad a certain point, for some commercial strategies decided to stop upgrading E-M5 II anymore (might be to promote E-M5 Mk.III sales). Since the 12-45mm PRO lens was presented after this decision, it’s not supported by the internal focus Stacking feature, because the camera’s supported lenses list was never updated! I read there is an unofficial FW patch that “enables all lenses”: I also downloaded the code, but I never tried to burn it into the camera, at least not to spoil the warranty. But might be the case that, sooner or later, I’ll be too much curious to check it, anyway…
Im considering one of these two to pair with the lumix 14mm f2.5. Which one would you recommend me? WR dont gonna be useful because there is not WR on the lens. Shutter speed maybe an advantage for Em5ii (1/8000 vs 1/4000), but nothing special.. Em10 has flash. Im not planning to buy anymore lenses, just this one. Slightly cheaper the em10.
Hi Peter, I am interested in buying this OM-D E-M5 MK2 Titanium Edition or a OM-D E-M10 Limited edition, i both can get them around the same price (between €200 & €300. Which one do you recommend? I had a Canon EOS R before, but I am looking for a small camera that I will be travelling with around Europe to capture my travels. Best regards
I'm going to start with Olympus, which is the intermediate one that you can recommend and it doesn't matter if it's used, which model do you recommend.?? thanks
I depends on what you are photographing. But most likely the best one for you would be either OM-5 or E-M1 Mark III. Both of there are also a good choice. It depends on your budget and how much money you want to spend.
That being said, the M10 II actually does surprisingly good. I used it during a storm in the forest once... I was soaking wet, the camera bag was soaking wet, rain was flowing everywhere. The M10 II survived it without any issues. I was probably lucky but still, it's not bad at all...
Em 5 all the way. Built like a camera should be, em 5 mk3 is plastic fantastic, the route canon did back in the day when they switched the 40 d to plastic instead of magnesium. Maybe we will see a omd em 3 made of magnesium in the future to sit between the omd em 5 and em 1
The EM10 ii is a well built camera except the battery cover hinge can break. The metal build in general looks and feels gorgeous. Much better than the newer polycarbonate stuff. The paint finish is beautiful and tough on both black and chrome models. Though I also now have an EM5 mark iii and it seems pretty good because much more functional, especially for video and autofocus capability, focus stacking and high resolution shots.
I'm interested in the em10II as an add-on to my em5 III (and they have the same batteries) but is the C-AF as bad as many say because of contrast detection only? (Ps: in France the em5 II is more like twice as expensive second-hand...)
I’ve had a original 5 , a 10mk ii then. 5 mk ii then a 1 mk ii the only one I didn’t gel with was the 5 mk ii . I now have a 10 mk iii and it’s all I need , I loved the 1 mk 2 but for me the smaller body of the 10 suits me better for travel . If I was doing wildlife of sport it would be the 1 mk ii without a doubt. The little 14-42 ez is a little wonder and gives me a pocketable camera tho I do have the 12-40 …all in all I’m happy with Olympus and I’ve used a lot of different makes and full frame
I had the Em1 mark ii and sold it..and regret all the time...looking for another one now....I still have the the first em 5...and em 5 mark ii, and the em 10 mark iii is on the way...so I should be ok..but still miss the m1 mark ii
What about the audio quality when recording a video with an external mic? People say it’s absolutely terrible, a lot of hiss. Built-in mic is useless. I don’t know if it’s true or not but it’s a dealbreaker for me. If anyone who has EM5 mk ii can confirm that it would be great
It is ok. Just lower the level in camera to a minimum and use it in manual mode (the audio recording.) If you need to raise up the level do it from the external mic.
The video focusing on the EM10 ii is terrible. Better to use manual focus on video on that camera but for stills it's a great camera on my view and has killer looks and is so small and unobtrusive.
Please could you help me? I tried to do vidéo with omd5mk2. I am not able to record the sound. I see the level meter on the screen and i checked the menu i video micro IS on selected. Record pcm IS not selected. I don't known why i have any sound on the video record. Many thanks for your help. Regards.
Can anyone help I want to upgrade me olympus om-d e-m5 mark ii firmware. I can't find anything on the Olympus website. When I select update firmware with the camera plugged in My Sofware (Olympus Viewer version 2) say this function is not available?
Great video Peter, another point for the E-M5 Mk2 on video (hat tip to Rob Trek 😀) is that you can enable 'clean' HDMI by pressing the INFO button 3-5 seconds, I use the E-M5 Mk2 as meetings / streaming web cam via HDMI (cheap 3rd party version) capture stick . It does not have the phase-detect autofocus in the E-M5 Mk3 and E-M1 Mk2/3 but it works out ok matched with the 12 or 17mm lens ..
I'd like an EM1 Mk ii or iii but I'd be fine with it if someone sent me an EM5ii in the mail!🤣 I have an EM5ii just this month. Had a chrome and a black EM10ii for a while. The metal bodies feel nicer for sure but the controls on the top panel of the EM5iii are better. Except that I love the on off switch on the EM10ii that is identical to the old OM1 from 1972.
I bought an Em 10 Mark ii and I am disappointed with the quality of the autofocus work. In closed rooms, in poor lighting conditions, the autofocus often misses.
It's just a few features that the EM5 has which the EM10 doesn't have. Plus the weather sealing of course. In most scenarios both will do the exact same thing. So I don't think it's an odd comparison. It's much closer than anyone would think.
@@matthiasglanznig9733 yeah. The only differences are wheather sealing, faster shutter, faster burst, bigger buffer, better stabilisation, high res mode, focus stacking. Close call I would say. Cant make up my mind.
I made this video because this question is asked a lot from me. The results was quite obvious to me, but since it is something people think about I thought a video about would be good.
I have both and my 10 series has sat on the shelf more than the 5 series - hence my preference is the E-M5 Mk II but that is not to say that the 10 is not a viable option, but I am a big guy with big hands so the 10 series gets lost in my hands
When you hold them both in your hand, the E-M5 II has a noticeably stronger build, owing to the magnesium-alloy chassis, compared to the E-M10 II which is all plastic. The E-M5 II has a better EVF, not just due to the higher magnification listed in the specs, but it is also somehow smoother, less prone to flicker, and therefore more pleasing to the eye. Lastly, I see a lot of used E-M10 II cameras with broken battery doors, and LCD screens that either don't work at all, or only work at one specific angle. I think the E-M5 II is a more reliable camera.
@@mexitegel I'm sure there's some metal to the inner chassis, but the top, bottom, and back plates are very clearly plastic, and based on the way it flexes, the front plate beneath the leatherette feels like it's also plastic.
@@StephenStrangways I think you are confusing the E-M10 MkII with the more obviously plastic and lighter weight E-M10 MkIII. The MkII feels perfectly solid to me as a long term user of both the MkII and the E-M1 MkII among others.
@@hedydd2 I just sold my E-M10 II last week, so I'm definitely referring to that camera. If you own one, just touch and look at the top and bottom plates and tell me those aren't plastic.
@@StephenStrangways It is not more or less plastic at either top or bottom than the E-M1 Mk II as far as I can tell. Both very solid and high quality, having both within inches of me as I type this. I have no doubt that the E-M5 MkII is the ‘better’ camera overall, just as the E-M1 MkII is the better of all of them, certainly in terms of features. Having said that, he E-M10 MkII ‘looks’ the most attractive and solid, least plasticky compared to even the EM-1 camera.
I checked and on my screen it looks slightly warmer that usual. The forehead at least is ok if I look at the vectorscope. Red channel is slightly brighter than usual, but not much. The shadows are also slightly warmer and that propably gives the impression of warm colors. According to wavescopes green is about where is should compared to red and blue. Colors, especially, skin tones are important. However in my opnion the content itself is more important. Since my skin color is only slight off I personally am not worried about this. Thanks for your accurate eyes. I will pay more attention to this in the future.
The E-M5 MkII got me back into Olympus after 20yrs.
I love it. Especially being metal.
I bought a used EM5ii about 4 years ago and paid around € 450 for it. This little machine won me over to Olympus as I was a Canon shooter in the past. I still use it and in the meantime purchases used EM1ii, Pen F and Lumix gx9 and of course many small and light lenses. I you are not shooting fast action in dim light m4/3 should be more than enough for most of us amateurs.
Hi Peter
I too have both these cameras and whilst the build quality of the EM5 Mkii is better and feels more solid generally, I actually prefer the EM10 Mkii in actual use on account of how it sits in my hands. The tilting screen is more useful for street photography and with the smaller M4/3 lenses it is a delight to use and carry around. I keep my Olympus F2.8 12-40 Pro on the EM5 Mkii for when very best image quality is needed, but if I had to keep only one, it would have to be the EM10 Mkii as it’s such a little jewel of a camera.
Best wishes from the UK to you all in Finland.
Thanks!
I still think that the EM10 Mk2 is the best value camera I've ever owned.
Peter - I had both these cameras - the EM10 was and is my go to camera for everyday work travel and portability - now upgraded form a mark 2 to an EM10 mark4 which I find to be even better .The EM5 is perhaps better inasmuch as its weather proofed etc and thus gets used more in autumn / winter .Both are great however and to a degree interchangeable in usage and capability terms.
Flippant comment maybe but I love the on off switch on the EM10ii that is identical to the old OM1 from 1972. It has a 90 degree throw, so it's almost impossible to knock accidentally to the on position in the camera bag.
I bought a used silver E-M5 Mk2 last month - your review confirms I made a wise decision, really love the the classic retro vibe as well.
Good choice!
Love both cameras. The flip down screen on the EM-10 is great but the more solid feel of the EM-5 is good, too.
Thanks Peter. I have the EM5 mark II and The Em1 mark III for different uses. I love them for image quality and how easy they are to use,
I still use my OMD-EM10mk2 with Olympus Grip and 12mm f2, 25mm f1.8, 45mm f1.8 and 75mm f1.8 for stills. I do not need anything above this quality in pictures. I never used more ISO than 1600 which still keeps a lot of detail. Usually I shoot between ISO 200 and 800, because of fantastic Olympus IS and high speed prime lenses. Overall Great build quality and customisation (mk3 and mk4 is declining in this department).
Body cost me 200 pounds, grip 50 pounds, lenses in total 1000 pounds.
For videos I use my Iphone 13 pro, but even 13 makes amazing hdr videos as well.
You cannot beat them in this price range.
Good to see new content on some of the lower-cost Olympus cameras, the EM5 Mark II is the camera I use most. My favourite features are the truly small size, classic Olympus looks, high-quality magnesium alloy body, amazing IBIS and creative tools (high res, live comp etc).
Peter I think you’ve nailed it on this review/comparison. I had both these bodies at the same time a year back, using them for general photography and some video work. The EM10ii was for the B roll footage and good backup. I since upgraded to an EM1iii and kept the EM10ii for pocketability and just to throw in any bag when I go out with the 14-40 EZ kit lens. But if I were just moving up from eg camera phone I’d go with the 5 as having more potential to grow. Also look out for the extra grip and battery grip - I had both which gave great handling and longevity when filming.
Thanks.
Among all these Olympus cameras with this shared design the E5-II is IMO the best looking among all.
Only that reason is reason enough for me to chose this camera among any Olympus cameras, but also by being an E5 is very capable and I think 16MP is the "sweet spot" in resolution (wish phones would come back to 16MP).
I like the EM10ii best but I haven't seen the EM5ii. They are at positions 1 and 2 definitely. I actually like the black finish on the EM10 ii more than all other OMD cameras.
I might be tempted to an EM5 Mk ii body because I suspect it is probably the best made of the small OMD series.
I think the question boils down to : if you must have only one camera, the E-M5 mk II is the better choice. But if you can afford the luxury of having more than one body, then an E-M10 mk II paired with an OG E-M1 (to stay close to the E-M5 mk II spec sheet / price point, but of course an E-M1 mk II or up is a better choice) works better than a lone E-M5 mk II camera.
The E-M5 mk II is much heavier (a 1/3rd !) than a 10 mk II, and doesn't have that many significant improvements : weather sealing - high resolution - optional battery grip with mike input (I may forget some). But the E-M10 mk II also has exclusives not found on the 5.2 : AF trackpad on the rear LCD, flip screen for street photography (many prefer it over the articulated screen of the E-M5.2), OLED viewfinder instead of LCD (moreover it doesn't burn itself to death in direct sunlight, unlike the 5.2 unit which is extremely fragile), integrated puny flash, better controls layout. For everything else, the E-M1 is better than both and not that much bigger than the E-M5.2 (to be fair, the OG E-M1 lacks high res and there's a time limit to the e-shutter). To me the 5.2 is too compromised. If I want to go light on a whim, I grab the 10.2 ; whenever I feel more serious, the 1.2 is my pick.
I'd like an EM1 Mk ii or iii but I'd be fine with it if someone sent me an EM5ii in the mail!🤣
I have an EM5ii just this month. Had a chrome and a black EM10ii for a while. The metal bodies feel nicer for sure but the controls on the top panel of the EM5iii are better. Except that I love the on off switch on the EM10ii that is identical to the old OM1 from 1972.
I purchased my copy of the E-M5ii in 2018, and I have shot with it extensively.
I've done weddings, time-lapses, sports, concerts, birthday parties, travels and landscapes with it.
It has had very good use, though sadly it has been showing frequent issues (which I regularly service every 6 months). That being said, I have pushed the shutter count to a good 600,000 (will need to check over it).
That is a lot. I would send for check up just in case.
@@ForsgardPeter the first time I sent it to fix both the LCD screen and the On/off switch.
The LCD screen would turn off when you rotate it to selfie mode, but it would take a photo and operate if you touched it.
The on/off switch I've had to have fix twice because the camera continued to remain on after it was switched off.
you service it every 6 months! whoa. because something on it broke?
I have to say I recently got a em5mk2 2ndhand and not too much later the lcd screen broke.
When I wanted a camera I could leave in the car (I have an EM1 Mk2) I looked at these and decided on the EM5 Mk II, so totally agree with your choice. 2nd hand the price difference isn't a lot and the EM5 had the edge. Paired with the pancake 14-42mm lens its a small package and always ready when you are out without your camera and see something that needs shooting.
Great video, thanks.
My first Olympus was precisely the EM10 mark II. And while it met my photographic needs, switching to the EM5 markII was one of the best decisions I ever made. It has become my favorite camera. The quality and versatility it offers me is tremendous. I take it everywhere and it's almost the only one I use. My Nikon D500, sadly though, spends most of its time in storage. Although both can already be considered "old", I doubt that I will change them in the medium term because they give me more than I need.
The EM10ii was also my first Olympus camera and I also own the Nikon D500. Both are great cameras. Like you I also use the Olympus more than the Nikon because it's smaller and with the 25 mm f1.8 allways in my car.
Thanks Peter. I've E-M5ii and E-M1iii. E-M5 is a great compact camera. I use in street fotography and E-M1iii in landscape and nature fotography. The only problem is that you can't use all the functions of olympus workspace with the E-M5ii photos.
There's like a 100 EUR difference between them used. So it's your decision whether that's worth it for the weather sealed magnesium body, and which screen tilt you prefer. And what's available.
That is the way I think about this now, a "few" years later.
My first Olympus was the EM 10 mk ii with extra 40-150 kit lens. I bought it for a trip to Europe. It was and still is an excellent light weight walk about camera. It’s because of this camera that I bought the EM 1 mk ii. I use both regularly.
I had the e-m10-II and was very happy, skipped the 5-II and went to 1-II in Olympus recertified offer a while back. Really pleased with both.
Thanks Peter. I've had the em5mk2 for several years now and have the battery grip as well. Even though I have an em1mk2 as my main camera i still love the feel of the em5. It just feels solid and never misses a shot. I usually keep the pano 100-400 on it. Love your videos Peter 😉👍📷📷📷📷📷 cheers, Mike
The em5 is probably the only camera 90% of you need especially when paired with pro lenses and then there's the weather sealing and ibis .This camera will do whatever you want provided of course you can locate it in the menu system
Em5ii, such a solid feeling camera in the hand. If you only shoot stills this will have you covered, even in 2022
I have had the EM 10II for several years, but couldn't pass up a deal from the Olympus site for a refurbished EM 5II. In addition to weather seal, hi res, stacking, etc, I prefer the feel of the EM5II. Weight, size?
im still using E-M5 Mark 1 and still kicks
I'd decided on an em10ii but stumbled on an amazing deal for an em5ii
.. love all the buttons and the weather sealing
I think the EM5 has a better viewfinder (same as the EM1mk 2 and 3) and better IBIS then the EM10. The EM5mk2 also has a separate door for the SD card and a larger battery. Construction quality is also much better, probably the best after the EM1 series and certainly better then the EM5mk3
Peter, always enjoy your videos and always learn something from them. My EDC camera for the last year has been the EM10 Mii which I picked up used and it is a favorite of mine for sure. I also have an older EPL1 but don't use that quite as much. I like the customizable function buttons. I have other Lumix and Nikon cameras but the OM10 is just fun to use.
I just wish that camera manufactures would stop choosing the model names from a bowl of alpha-numeric soup ?
Thanks to the hi-res shot mode and due to the dimensions of the micro 4/3 sensor, the EM-5ii has become my go-to MF film scanner - 64mpx scans of 645 and 8x6. I have it tethered to a PC with OM Capture -> LR Classic watch NAS folder -> Negative Lab Pro conversion. Used, the 5ii costs far less than any flatbed option and provides superior results.
The 5ii was my primary camera for ~3.5 years and it's crazy to see it go for as low as $250 used. Great comparison Peter!
That is a good use for E-M5 Mark II.
Been shooting with the E-M10 Mark II for a year now and must say I am pretty happy with it. My main focus is portrait and I am considering upgrading to the OM-5, mainly because of build in ND + I love the small body. Would you say as a professional this would be a good upgrade? Ps. Thanks for your videos. Since I am working with Olympus I’ve watched many of them and they’ve been very helpful. Cheers.
It s not technically a built-in ND. It is a feature called LiveND. It gives same results but works differently. It is great for moving water etc. but not that much for portraits. OM-5 is other specs is a great upgrade for E-M10 MKII. To be honest for portraits the upgrade is not very big. What lenses you use? Lenses are more important than the body for portraits. If you do not have a good portrait lens I would look for that instead. OM SYSTEM has two good options, the 45mm F1.8 and the 45mm F1.2 Pro. Both are great lenses. 45mm F1.8 is a great lens for portraits for the smaller bodies. I hope this helps.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks for your reply, appreciate it. The information on the LiveND is helpful. I live in a very bright and sunny place and always have to use filters to make things work, for this reason this new feature stood out to me. It’s good to know that this works different and might not be as helpful as I thought for portraits. Was hoping for the same effect so I could get rid of the filters, since I am always doubting if they affect my overall quality. My main lenses are the 25 and 45 which are doing great!
@Maydayxo Glad I could help.
hey can I see some of your potrait by em10ii because I am really into it but still dont know wheter it is good for potrait
I got the Em10 II. I love it. Would opt for the Em5 II Just for the possibility to put an external mic for video's. That is a special feature too.
I have both these bodies. The EM5 has the better features, but I don’t like the quick sleep mode as it sometimes causes me to miss shots. I don’t have this problem with the EM10, which I still really like for its great portability. However, the EM5 feels a bit more sturdy for bigger lenses such as the 12-100 PRO lens.
You can turn the sleep off, you have greater battery burn if you don’t keep switching off, but for me it is worth it as I like to turn on and shoot
I got the em10 mark 3s as a back up camera and it surprised me how fun it was to use..I discovered 3 d tracking works very well ..even better than my E-M1 mark 2
I converted to micro 2/3 with an M10 mk 2 & have not looked back. My Canon DSLR is consigned to my store. I am slowly updating my lens collection by searching the used market.
My journey from canon to MFT was also this route. Never looked back
I'm still happy with my E-M5 mkI, but I will certainly replace it with another Oly at some point, so this video is very useful.
Great to hear!
I had e-m1 and e-m10m2 and just sold e-m10m2 last year. For me, electrical shutter speed is important but e-m1 gives just minimum speed of 1/8s, compared to 60s in e-m10m2. If e-m10m2 was weather-sealed and had more ibis stops, I would sold e-m1 instead of e-m10m2. I think e-m10m2 is still all-rounder budget camera for beginner.
Anyway in korea olympus had gone and OMDS doesn't service any businesses anymore, I miss olympus mft cameras.
I still prefer the em10 Mkii for stills photography and I don’t shoot video .
I edit all pictures on my phone and from my phone I send best images to be printed in photo books .
Those who see my work praise it and acknowledge I have the gift to see an image and capture it.
Retirement is not a liberating time as some might assume , as babysitting of three little ones and a dog has left me with no free time for writing or gardening , but I compensate by taking the little ones to National Trust properties and that under the cover of being nanny , I get to capture a wide range of images .
Since I don’t suffer from shyness - a career of teaching graduates and postgrads , married to running a law department and having a science based background , I will take the shot before anybody notices and if they do , they are unsure what to say to a nanny with her charges , much to the horror of my daughters .
Which ever camera you decide to go with , let be one that lets you capture what you are feeling without much thinking . Often my phone can excel where my camera is getting in the way.
If being subjective as to which is better then I would have to say both have their place and create powerful and long lasting images .
The future of photography will be as far removed from the old heavy cameras of the last century. I would not be surprised if the process came to emulate the human eye and the creative artistry of our own minds . Where that to happen I am sure that it would raise the question of what was genuine and what was not .
Peter , you’re review of both these little gems highlights that Olympus should have done more to up grade it’s old cameras by firmware updates , since the drive to ever more pricy pro models coming to market . Where this to happen it would attract many to the brand and create a pool from which there would be growing number of individuals seeking the higher priced models .
I think Olympus has a future , but it would achieve this more convincingly by keeping its old cameras relevant to the present by adding more updates . Unless there were a technical reason for why that is not possible , then using the argument that it would make some models redundant is folly .
Using the two models you used for this review, one is chiefly weather sealed and aimed at video uses who like to shoot some stills. The other is squarely aimed at photographers and prefer the tilt screen .
After all this time there is a place for both and a reason to update the firmware to be universal on both these cameras .
To achieve better upgrades to those models would scream that Olympus had a commitment to making their cameras relevant for future users without weakening the latest models .
I always thought that you needed only two types of camera . One that was aimed at the pro and the other for those wanting a tool that would do the business , but which could be set up to be truly easy to use by those not wanting to learn photography , but just want to capture stunning images without braking the bank .
Camera manufactures are a business , but it is beholding on any business that wishes to have a future to be willing to entice and retain those looking in to the shop window to buy in to the dream and bring them to the pro line through developing their appetite for what else the stable has created .
It would be interesting the take of others to the views I express here , which I aim at all manufactures , of which I have string passions for the Olympus stable .
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Getting along in years I saw an EM10 Mark iii in a pawn shop and it has replaced my Fuji hsc 10 with the super zoom lens but getting heaver every year. I love the OM Ds and bought my wife a similar to replace her Fuji S9500 or S9600. For some reason here in Thailand on facebook Market there was a flood of Olympus OM D and Pen models and lens rather inexpensive so we now have several of them. The last camera I bought was the EM 10 Markii and with the added had grip is with the 12-50 Marco lens has become my basis set up but have the 75-300 as well. We have all kit lens. My wife grew up in her family photo shop which we finally closed when film died. We just enjoy using the cameras for fun and our gear is satisfactory for that.
Heavily debating buying a used EM5 II in the future for collection purposes. Love the III but that metal body on the II is nice, plus they sell used for like $300 USD. Plus the thing is built like a tank.
In your opinion, is there a great reason to upgrade from EM5 mii to an OM5 ? Is the image quality much better on the OM5 ? I am happy with the EM5ii and have been spending my money on (mostly PRO ) lenses rather than a body upgrade. I mostly take travel pictures, hiking shots and some street photography. Don't use it for video except on rare occasions (I have other cameras for video).
If you have good lenses already and you are happy with your E-M5MKII I do not see any reasons to update. The new features might be a reason if you find them useful.
Thanks, I think in the same way....@@ForsgardPeter
Another great review Peter I still have a couple of older Olympus cameras and use them with great results. Have you tried the new Panasonic Leica 8mm f1.7 lens yet and how will it work on the Olympus camera body? Gerry
Hi Peter . Thanks for this retro review of both of these wonderful cameras . I chose the EM 10 Mkii because of the tilt screen . I have no interest in video and if I wanted video then I would use my phone .
I would have liked to have seen more updates being given to the EM 10 . I concur that a used body from a reliable source and spending the additional cash on lenses - new or used .
Thanks again Peter .
For general photography there is not much difference between these two.
Thank you for the video, there's quite a bit of very useful tips in there. Could you do another video comparing E-M5 II with E-M1 II?
I could. Lets see what I can do about that.
I used to have the em 10ii two times and two times the em5ii, and now I have the em5ii cos many great funtion and weather sealing.
I have the original EM5 and like it a lot. One thing I don't like, though, is the EVF. It's pretty coarse and crappy. Makes focusing my adapted Nikkor lenses very hard. Are the EVF s on the EM5II and EM10II considerably better, sharper? That would make a big difference in my decision to upgrade. Thanks.
It is better in the newer models.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear.
Hello Peter! I love your channel and have watch it for over a year now! I own a Pen E-PL8 and just used it for my first business photo shoot for a gaming company. Is there anyway to get the focus stacking feature on the Pen cameras? I really need it for their miniatures but didn’t want to purchase another Olympus unless I truly have too. Can you please give me your knowledge on this?
Em10 m2 is the best om10 series camera. om10 mark 3 and mark 4 are just bad, missing features from mark 2.
E-M10 Mark III was a mistake in my opinion. E-M10 mark IV is going to the right direction.
@@ForsgardPeter yes, unfortunately i bought om10m3 and everytime i want to do something more i feel pain inside me haha
Some features are missing, some are just locked in specific modes.
Friend of my bought mark 2 after i told him to not get mark 3 and he is rly happy.
Sadly all the featurs are just software locked and they are not even trying to fix it.
I am curious how next om10 and om5 series will look like. In my opinion they should focus on om10. its where new client comes from. If hes not happy from the start, will not stick to the system.
Cheers.
@@puch7283
I would like to see the next 10 series camera to offer all the old mark ii had and a bit.
I think it is important that photographers who do not desire , need or want video could have a weather sealed camera , without having a swing out screen .
If we got a camera like I proposed above , then would it be too much to ask for a small weather sealed lens to match it …. Say , with a f2 aperture . Something like Fuji have done .
In reality , I doubt that it will happen . This is because cameras are desired for those who produce videos .
The next reason why the entry level model is not important to manufactures is because of the growing ability of cameras in mobile phones . This makes it very difficult to produce a entry model of note that is a photographer’s camera and is not over priced .
Finally, manufactures need to sale lenses so, the cameras need to match the expectations of professionals who can afford new gear and features …. Which is a big assumption in this day and age .
For now, there are some really good offerings on the second hand market . The bigger pro lenses are too big for the 10 series bodies , which is a pity .
Having said all I have , I conclude that it should not stop us from dreaming and if enough of us express our views to the manufacturer , they will listen , but not are not having an easy time themselves and remaining relevant in a shirking market dictates the way cameras and lenses will be made .
Great video Peter, and very great timing on it. ive been wondering if i should take a deal on an em5 ii so i could finally upgrade from my em10 mark ii. i orderes one yesterday! i am now going to sell my em10 ii with 2 Sigma f2.8 lenses and hopefully get enough for a 14-42 f2.8 pro lens or 75mm f1.8 portrait lens.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Peter, I think I know E-M5 Mk.II quite well: it’s MY camera! Quite good equipment, but when we come to FW upgrade, well, I am a bit disappointed: my Zuiko 12-45mm F4 PRO lens does NOT work in Focus Stacking with that camera! And… why? Simply because Olympus, ad a certain point, for some commercial strategies decided to stop upgrading E-M5 II anymore (might be to promote E-M5 Mk.III sales). Since the 12-45mm PRO lens was presented after this decision, it’s not supported by the internal focus Stacking feature, because the camera’s supported lenses list was never updated!
I read there is an unofficial FW patch that “enables all lenses”: I also downloaded the code, but I never tried to burn it into the camera, at least not to spoil the warranty. But might be the case that, sooner or later, I’ll be too much curious to check it, anyway…
Good video Peter. I think you have the wrong camera name on the screen at 4.53. Didn’t realize the em5 Mkii had so many features. Thanks.
Yes I did. My mistake.
Im considering one of these two to pair with the lumix 14mm f2.5. Which one would you recommend me? WR dont gonna be useful because there is not WR on the lens. Shutter speed maybe an advantage for Em5ii (1/8000 vs 1/4000), but nothing special.. Em10 has flash. Im not planning to buy anymore lenses, just this one. Slightly cheaper the em10.
At the moment I would probably go with the cheaper one.
Hi Peter,
I am interested in buying this OM-D E-M5 MK2 Titanium Edition or a OM-D E-M10 Limited edition, i both can get them around the same price (between €200 & €300. Which one do you recommend? I had a Canon EOS R before, but I am looking for a small camera that I will be travelling with around Europe to capture my travels. Best regards
I would get the E-M5 MarkII.
m10 mk2 also has focus stacking. M10 mk2 is cheaper than m5 mk2 with the same image quality, and usually comes with significant less shot counter.
Hummm... Is it a coincidence that there is a video on the 5 series when there is also a rumour that the OM-5 is coming.... 😉
I'm going to start with Olympus, which is the intermediate one that you can recommend and it doesn't matter if it's used, which model do you recommend.?? thanks
I depends on what you are photographing. But most likely the best one for you would be either OM-5 or E-M1 Mark III. Both of there are also a good choice. It depends on your budget and how much money you want to spend.
@@ForsgardPeter thanks
@@ForsgardPeter merry Christmas
p.s. the section of the video with Sample EM5 ii pictures you had it labeled " EM1 mk ii"
Yes I noticed. My mistake.
M5 mk2 for 1 simple thing. Weather sealed 😊
That being said, the M10 II actually does surprisingly good. I used it during a storm in the forest once... I was soaking wet, the camera bag was soaking wet, rain was flowing everywhere. The M10 II survived it without any issues. I was probably lucky but still, it's not bad at all...
@@matthiasglanznig9733 there's luck and there's warranty 😅 I don't have the first, so I go for the warranty 😂
i didnt ask this question but i do have this question. i have the em5ii but am interested in the em10ii
Em 5 all the way. Built like a camera should be, em 5 mk3 is plastic fantastic, the route canon did back in the day when they switched the 40 d to plastic instead of magnesium. Maybe we will see a omd em 3 made of magnesium in the future to sit between the omd em 5 and em 1
Would it be a worth upgrade from an em10 MK2 to an em5 MK3? Is the image quality much better on an em5 MK3?
It is better. It has 20Mpix and a newer processor. It all comes down to the price. So if the price is ok then yes.
@@ForsgardPeter but would you see an huge difference? For example for birding where more MP are an advantage?
EM10 MKII I am using it for the past 4-5 years, it has a metal body and is good. I bought an EM10 MKIV last year...one of the bad worst purchases.
The EM10 ii is a well built camera except the battery cover hinge can break. The metal build in general looks and feels gorgeous. Much better than the newer polycarbonate stuff. The paint finish is beautiful and tough on both black and chrome models. Though I also now have an EM5 mark iii and it seems pretty good because much more functional, especially for video and autofocus capability, focus stacking and high resolution shots.
Why did you not like the version IV?
I just upgraded to OM-D E-M10 Mark IIIs from EPL 3
I'm interested in the em10II as an add-on to my em5 III (and they have the same batteries) but is the C-AF as bad as many say because of contrast detection only?
(Ps: in France the em5 II is more like twice as expensive second-hand...)
Prices are always a bit hard. There might be a big difference in different parts of the world.
Also I have firmware 4.0 on my em5II and focus stacking is grayed out in the menu
You need a compatible lens. They are in limited number and all from the Olympus pro range.
The macro lenses are not pro (plastic cases and not as expensive) but they also support focus stacking
@@robertmortimer4837 : you are right. I forgot those.
@@ordinosaurs they may not be pro but they are awesome sharp. I have the 60mm
@@robertmortimer4837 I should have known, I have the 30 myself.
I’ve had a original 5 , a 10mk ii then. 5 mk ii then a 1 mk ii the only one I didn’t gel with was the 5 mk ii . I now have a 10 mk iii and it’s all I need , I loved the 1 mk 2 but for me the smaller body of the 10 suits me better for travel . If I was doing wildlife of sport it would be the 1 mk ii without a doubt. The little 14-42 ez is a little wonder and gives me a pocketable camera tho I do have the 12-40 …all in all I’m happy with Olympus and I’ve used a lot of different makes and full frame
I had the Em1 mark ii and sold it..and regret all the time...looking for another one now....I still have the the first em 5...and em 5 mark ii, and the em 10 mark iii is on the way...so I should be ok..but still miss the m1 mark ii
Superb hint
Thanks.
What about the audio quality when recording a video with an external mic? People say it’s absolutely terrible, a lot of hiss. Built-in mic is useless. I don’t know if it’s true or not but it’s a dealbreaker for me. If anyone who has EM5 mk ii can confirm that it would be great
It is ok. Just lower the level in camera to a minimum and use it in manual mode (the audio recording.) If you need to raise up the level do it from the external mic.
The EM-5 Mark II is wayy more expensive here, around 1.75x the price of the E-M10 Mark II
Do you have a link to that short film that was make on the Olympus OMD E-M5ii?
Which short film you mean?
@@ForsgardPeter The one Olympus made for the Olympus OMD E-M5ii the promo film. You talked about it for a second in this video.
I see. That was shown during that launch event. I have not seen it online.
The video focusing on the EM10 ii is terrible. Better to use manual focus on video on that camera but for stills it's a great camera on my view and has killer looks and is so small and unobtrusive.
Manual focus in video is usually the way.
Please could you help me? I tried to do vidéo with omd5mk2. I am not able to record the sound. I see the level meter on the screen and i checked the menu i video micro IS on selected. Record pcm IS not selected. I don't known why i have any sound on the video record. Many thanks for your help. Regards.
I will look into this. I cannot say for sure yet.
@@ForsgardPeter many thanks
I have both and the LCD screen does not work as a targeting pad when using the viewfinder in the EM5 II. that's a pitty
Yes it does. I have an em5.2 and use this feature all the time.
Can anyone help I want to upgrade me olympus om-d e-m5 mark ii firmware. I can't find anything on the Olympus website. When I select update firmware with the camera plugged in My Sofware (Olympus Viewer version 2) say this function is not available?
You need to use OM Workspace for upgrading your firmware.
Great video Peter, another point for the E-M5 Mk2 on video (hat tip to Rob Trek 😀) is that you can enable 'clean' HDMI by pressing the INFO button 3-5 seconds, I use the E-M5 Mk2 as meetings / streaming web cam via HDMI (cheap 3rd party version) capture stick . It does not have the phase-detect autofocus in the E-M5 Mk3 and E-M1 Mk2/3 but it works out ok matched with the 12 or 17mm lens ..
That is true. Should have mentioned that!
I'd like an EM1 Mk ii or iii but I'd be fine with it if someone sent me an EM5ii in the mail!🤣
I have an EM5ii just this month. Had a chrome and a black EM10ii for a while. The metal bodies feel nicer for sure but the controls on the top panel of the EM5iii are better. Except that I love the on off switch on the EM10ii that is identical to the old OM1 from 1972.
I have got a 10 mk2, I like all in the 5 mk2, but, why don't have built in flash?
Bye.
Because the em10 is the high end consumer model and the em5 is the semi pro model, a professional isn't really going to use a built in flash
I bought an Em 10 Mark ii and I am disappointed with the quality of the autofocus work. In closed rooms, in poor lighting conditions, the autofocus often misses.
It is an old model and the AF has improved a lot.
Quite odd comparison of higher end and lower end gear. Of course that more expensive, semiprofessional camera will be better.
It's just a few features that the EM5 has which the EM10 doesn't have. Plus the weather sealing of course. In most scenarios both will do the exact same thing. So I don't think it's an odd comparison. It's much closer than anyone would think.
@@matthiasglanznig9733 yeah. The only differences are wheather sealing, faster shutter, faster burst, bigger buffer, better stabilisation, high res mode, focus stacking. Close call I would say. Cant make up my mind.
I made this video because this question is asked a lot from me. The results was quite obvious to me, but since it is something people think about I thought a video about would be good.
Thanks!
Thank you.
At what time and when are your live videos?
I do not have regular schedule for live videos. I am live occasionally.
I have both and my 10 series has sat on the shelf more than the 5 series - hence my preference is the E-M5 Mk II but that is not to say that the 10 is not a viable option, but I am a big guy with big hands so the 10 series gets lost in my hands
Em5m2 the wow camera in 2022 for 250€ lol
When you hold them both in your hand, the E-M5 II has a noticeably stronger build, owing to the magnesium-alloy chassis, compared to the E-M10 II which is all plastic.
The E-M5 II has a better EVF, not just due to the higher magnification listed in the specs, but it is also somehow smoother, less prone to flicker, and therefore more pleasing to the eye.
Lastly, I see a lot of used E-M10 II cameras with broken battery doors, and LCD screens that either don't work at all, or only work at one specific angle. I think the E-M5 II is a more reliable camera.
The E-M10 II is indeed metal. I do agree that the 5 does feel a bit more sturdy, though.
@@mexitegel I'm sure there's some metal to the inner chassis, but the top, bottom, and back plates are very clearly plastic, and based on the way it flexes, the front plate beneath the leatherette feels like it's also plastic.
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I think you are confusing the E-M10 MkII with the more obviously plastic and lighter weight E-M10 MkIII. The MkII feels perfectly solid to me as a long term user of both the MkII and the E-M1 MkII among others.
@@hedydd2 I just sold my E-M10 II last week, so I'm definitely referring to that camera. If you own one, just touch and look at the top and bottom plates and tell me those aren't plastic.
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It is not more or less plastic at either top or bottom than the E-M1 Mk II as far as I can tell. Both very solid and high quality, having both within inches of me as I type this.
I have no doubt that the E-M5 MkII is the ‘better’ camera overall, just as the E-M1 MkII is the better of all of them, certainly in terms of features. Having said that, he E-M10 MkII ‘looks’ the most attractive and solid, least plasticky compared to even the EM-1 camera.
Olympus E-M10 II has slow-motion video. E-M5 II dont.
Sure it does.
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The hi lights is not good and the skin tone is green. This is not professional.
What is, the video?
@@ForsgardPeter 0:08 this's video
I checked and on my screen it looks slightly warmer that usual. The forehead at least is ok if I look at the vectorscope. Red channel is slightly brighter than usual, but not much. The shadows are also slightly warmer and that propably gives the impression of warm colors. According to wavescopes green is about where is should compared to red and blue.
Colors, especially, skin tones are important. However in my opnion the content itself is more important. Since my skin color is only slight off I personally am not worried about this.
Thanks for your accurate eyes. I will pay more attention to this in the future.