It’s not curious at all. First humans can define ‘human’, for example genetically. Secondly none of the large religions claim to be able to define god, in fact that man cannot define god. And finally is it really curious that some people maintain unrealistic opinions and ideas. Or is it in fact all our everyday experience that this is the case. So no, it’s not curious because it’s not accurate and even if it was it would not be surprising.
anders lindgren - a ha, you’ve changed the goalposts, in your first post you talk about ‘definitely defining’ human, now because I have pointed out what a ridiculous statement that was because we can definitely define ‘human’ using genetics you have changed to ‘fully defining’. I’m not playing stupid anti-intellectual games with you. It’s entirely obvious that we can define ‘human’ using genetics, everybody knows this, and it’s also obvious that to ‘fully define’ anything, i.e. to describe all aspects of something with nothing left over, is a ridiculous thing to ask. Plus, if you’d ever bothered to study religion, you would know that there are no ‘full definitions’ of God, and that in fact all religions claim that such a definition would, by the transcendent nature of god, be impossible. So you are changing your argument mid way and you are setting up a straw man to knock down in the same breath. Very, very low quality thinking and argumentation on your part. Not worth engaging with anymore.
The interviews are textbook. Rather than playing 'gotcha' and interrupting, he asks genuinely searching and challenging questions, and then gives the interviewee space to give a proper answer.
He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart. Yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish. (Ecc.3:11)
I love these interviews.. understanding what or who God might be will take us to the next level of understanding who we are and why we exist in this huge Universe.
I love the premise of the question. How can God know all infinite possibilities? Since God can't answer that question some guy at a University will know. This is the best show in God's infinite possibilities. Perhaps Robert Lawrence Kuhn is God and he's seeing how smart we are.
If God is All Knowing, then He could never have thought up anything. To think up things and decide whether to create them or not means that God was NOT All Knowing prior to thinking something up. God could never have any new thoughts because new thoughts would be providing Him with new knowledge which he did not previously have.
Honestly, this man asks the silliest questions. How can we, as mere humans, hope to understand God or eternity? Much of our acceptance of God is simple belief without facts. We do that every day when we believe what total strangers tell us things but we don't know them personally or professionally. Weatherman, politicians, other people on the street. Is God all knowing? Yes, but not because He necessarily puts ideas in our head. We have free will of action and he knows the outcome without forcing the outcome. He doesn't need to as that would spoil the experiment. He needs us to act a as we would and He notes the outcome.
There is a reason other than sexism. Calling God "IT" sounds disrespectful and "She" couldn't be the furthest from the truth of the matter. In occult teachings the male and female principles don't refer to genitalia but active and passive principles. It is more accurate to refer to God as a He but personally when I am working or anything doing with advanced spiritualism I always refer to the highest as the "One".
For most of us thinking itself is a mistake. We may not be able to comprehend awesomeness in its totality. But we can appreciate clues. I suppose you are one of the chosen few who comprehend it totally.
Kuhn is a remarkable person/scientist, though this video isn't one of his good ones. It falls within the genre of, "could god make a rock so large he couldn't lift it?"
God knows everything that exists, he has created, its potential and every possible scenario or eventuality. Yet, God uses his ability to foreknow the future selectively, not automatically. He does not choose to know all details if the future choices his intelligent creatures, angels and humans, will make. He leaves that up to them. Although, he does provide laws and reveals rewards and consequences for actions taken.
GOD is consciousness and is omnipresent , it is like if electricity was conscious it would know who is using what electrical equipment all the time. so we are all are conscious hence GOD knows everything.
God is an eternal spirit that created the material world!! Hes separate from it..but does intervene...as the book of psalms quotes his understanding is INFINITE!!
Maybe it's possible for God to know everything about a certain sphere of his influence. But I can't imagine enjoying life without more things to learn. So I hope that God is still learning things that are above him, but maybe he knows everything about the kingdom over which he rules. Hopefully someday we can become like him.
...and being omniscient means what he knows the future of the universe at the moment he creates which means he has created everything that will necessarily happen. When your life is determined and known before you are born, you have no agency. You have no free-will and only god bears responsibility for all of it. That is the logic of it but of course, it's all nonsense since there is no evidence that the supernatural exists.
@@lrvogt1257: Predestination is a fact as far as God is concerned, not as far as we are concerned. Our life is pre-recorded on something like a video tape. God fully knows what kind of decision each of us is destined to make even before we were born into this world. As far as God's omniscience is concerned, we can imagine a stamp on everyone's forehead that says "Heaven" or "Hell." PS: 18:68. “How can you stand that which you do not comprehend?" ( سورة الكهف )
@@wahnano : If you create something with full knowledge of the consequences you created those consequences. Humans not knowing the future does not mean it isn't pre-determined In any case it's all rubbish. There is no evidence of the supernatural and free-will is an illusion. Particles are deterministic and we are made of particles. See Sabine Hossenfelder and / or Cosmic Skeptic on free will. Interesting stuff.
Let's see. He created humans so poorly he drowned ALL OF THEM, including innocent children, out of frustration and anger. Brilliant. A real success story.
As I see it, because there's no past or future to God and because for Him, everything is present, God's omniscience does not contradict human free will. He get to know our future as if it were happening now and He see's it as we can see something that is happening at the present moment. But we should not be too atached to concepts in our knowledge about God. They are useful, but limited.
"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways And my thoughts than your thoughts."(Isa.55:9) For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So great is his loyal love those who fear him.(Ps.103:11) if you want to search God‘s thoughts, you must search his words!!!
In my philosophy Dr. Kuhn, God knows all but uses us to experience what He knows. We are one with Him. There are many things I know and many I dont know about what I know. Ex. I once hit a line drive 450' 20' off the ground. Best hit I have ever made. I did it in practice so I know I can do it. I dont know what it is like in front of a crowd to do that to end The World Series. Knowing is not the same as experience. And I beleive that is our relationship to God. To experience what He know so He can experience what He knows through us. It may sound a little nutty but what we dont know is vastly more than what we do know, very little. Not a religious beleif but yet my beleif.
In the Christian belief Father , the Word and Holy Spirit are God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. He was tempted in all ways yet without sin. Jesus who was outside of time as the Word became one of us subject to time . Thus when He said before Abraham was I AM . Without past or future God simply is. It can be said as evidenced in John before the crucifiction Jesus prayed that as the Father is in Him and He in the Father that they be in His followers through the Holy Spirit so that we can be one with God in a spiritual sense. I know its been 2 years and its 2:38 AM here and I had to much coffee .... HAHA
It strikes me that the problem of free will is exactly the same in religion as in scientific philosophy. An omniscient God is identical to Everett's many-worlds model. In both cases free will exists as an illusion, but feels real. Both are technically deterministic, yet unpredictable by humans. Free-will is another word for the measurement problem in QM.
@@goldentwilight1944 Super-determinism is one possible loophole to Bell's theorem, that Bell himself pointed out. God is just another word for super-determinism.
I would love to hear an expert of QM on this idea. I feel one must be careful to relate quantum systems to macro systems, in all cases, but specifically something like humans making decisions. The two worlds are very different.
@@Antediluvian137 Freeman Dyson agrees with you: ua-cam.com/video/pcicI_GJGcM/v-deo.html But, nobody knows, yet, where the border between macro and micro is, or what to make of the Wheeler-DeWitt equation.
Years ago Alan Watts said in one of is talks. We will sit around the throne of God and someone will ask God how did you make everything and he will say; I do not know I just did it like opening and closing your hand. One must remember that God cannot bite his own teeth or see his face except for reflections like a mirror. Like God we cannot bite our teeth or see our face except for a reflection. The mystery is what keeps it interesting. Knowing in advance that Caption Ahab was towed under by Moby Dick ruins the story
I have so much love and respect for Watt's point of view. But aren't there movies we love rewatching? Aren't there narratives that are exciting because we know the end, but dont know how it will get there? More so, I struggle reconciling Watt's view with ethics. He seems to take the world as fundamentally a comedy or theater, when it seems more like a tragedy. (But then again have you seen his lecture on Jung?)
Yes that is why we watch Yankee Doddle Dandy every 4th of July. That is why I listen to Alan over and over for Forty years. Yes life is theater and sometimes a comedy or tragedy or drama but never serious; I always remember what the great dinner I just finished turns into.
@@edwardhayes6113 There's so much truth and beauty in Watt's views, but I feel like there are limits. That's why I object to pantheism: some things that happen I just cant associate with the divine--forgive the cheap stock example, but children dying of cancer. I think theres something brave and beautiful about looking the world in the eye, but perhaps I'm too weak too do so?
As God is everything He must know everything. The definition of God in higher ages, before the material age we are in now.; was Consciousness; Existence; Bliss. We share in the first two but in place of the last we have five senses. We experience duality through them; good and bad; pain and pleasure. We learn to align ourselves with reality as constantly being stupid and banging our heads against the same stone wall does not work.
How does an fallible human know the mind of god well enough to explain it in great detail? Yeah this theist is full of it. How would god know what he doesn't know? To just define a god as all knowing is just saying god is this way because that's how he's defined. A god's omniscience can't be shown. It's pure speculation and wishful thinking.
It is more than speculation. It is utter nonsense. God could not communicate to us a single thought! That thought would have to enter our brain. The only that our brain receives information is through our senses. Then thoughts are created by our consciousness. God's thoughts have to be stored somewhere. That somewhere can only be within the universe. In quantum energy or waves. But waves have no consciousness. So the universe has no consciousness. If God has consciousness, He cannot communicate it to the universe. Have a read of my blog: jpcorriveau.com/blog/ .
We can ask the question. So we must be special somehow. We can't be just smart apes living on a speck of dust. Being swept along by the winds of the galaxy. Sorry, it seems that way. We have chased the gods from nature to the edge of reality and found only self delusion.
Thomas Ridley LOL! Actually, that is what’s happening to us. Smart apes, though I wouldn’t say smart, living on a speck of dust and being swept along by the winds of the galaxy. That’s exactly what’s happening, until one awakens and becomes aware of life as it really is and their willful alignment with it. So being swept along is for the unmindful who knows nothing about the life system. Which stands to reason, why chasing the gods only leads to self delusion, bcuz self delusion is all people have driving them.
Just theoretically speaking.... if one had access to all of time, would that be just as good as knowing everything? One could “know everything” without having been the creator.
Isaiah 46:9-10 KJV - ...I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning (ie. He tells the future before it happens), and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
If a god knows the future then you have no free will, therefore, any reward or punishment based on such an illusion of free will would be wholly unjustified. For a god to know every detail coming from what he creates is to create every detail. He casts the die long before you're born so choice would be an illusion.
@@viorelagocs to me it does. To god it doesn't seem to be. He knows everything experiences everything causes everything and he knows exactly what is coming so he is totally done. Utterly boring that is.
@@viorelagocs There are concepts outside of experience, and I'm specifically thinking of mathematical truths - for example, let's take the number pi - we can ask whether pi could have been anything different from what it is, but when we explore its relations to geometry and consider the countless known and unknown fundamental connections in number theory, we can rationalise that pi could not have been any different to what it is. So the idea of considering a universe where our fundamental mathematical constants could be any different, would be absurd. So that tells me that there is naturally truth outside of what we experience. I'm talking about truth that can be expressed mathematically, and there are naturally infinite mathematical propositions. So I can appreciate the notion that God exists in the sense that those fundamental truths exist, and that God is equivalent to nature / truth, but I cannot conceptualise of the Abrahamic God that He is a mind with experience making decisions and actually knows all fundamental truths as if on a list - that is anthropomorphism. But I can appreciate the depth of knowledge that we have uncovered, and the infinite depth that we as humans cannot be privy to - natural laws and fundamental truths. It's when we start talking about human experience with spiritual/metaphysical freedom that we tend to confuse ourselves about the nature of God.
@Stefano Portoghesi Hey, to be honest that was not the argument I was expecting. However, you raised an interesting point. Well, discussing metaphysical issues have never been an easy task. The God question is by far the most important question we can encounter while being alive! Now, in a nutshell, the central point of your writing is why does not God show himself to humanity once and for all to avoid all of these "useless" discussions? Mi response: If God exist, He must have sufficient reasons of why he doesn't do what you want him to do. Another thing is that, the concept of "faith" in religious context is useless if God reveals everything there is to know about himself. In fact, Saint Paul wrote that if that even takes place, it will be in heaven. But, in fact, a Christian can safetly say that even if we do not know everything about God, the New Testament is about God's revelation! That is the whole point! God reveled himself in the person of Christ and let us know how good and benevolent he is. Whithout "that divine reveletion", there is not a way of knowing that God loves us-I suspect you do not like this answer. I don't know your main philosophical position about the matter, but you don't have to agree with me to notice that the silence of God is not an obstacle that can stop us from arguing about divine attributes. Let's say, one friend of you is in the other side of the country and he is talking about you at this moment; so, just because you are not present or are aware of this talk, it doesn't mean you don't exist, quite the contrary! *Please, this is not my first language. I hope you understood what I intended to say. Have a good day, friend!
@Stefano Portoghesi Hello, what you've just said can be found in the Bible (Luke: 23:37) and it is an important part for theologians. I do not have time to write about. Again, why would God argue about himself, and whith whom, with athists, with you, maybe? I said that God most have sufficient reasons of why he does not appear to us. After all, He doesn't have to fullfil all your desires! Buy, friend.
@Stefano Portoghesi if Christ let himself down from the cross, you and I would have to pay for our sins instead of allowing him to pay the penalty for us. He allows us to receive eternal life (in) Christ by simply having faith in the one who died for us. 2 Corinthians 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God I use to wonder if God was real until he showed me over and over again, now I’m incapable of not believing. It’s a special feeling to have the creator of all things attend to your needs as a father does his infant child. For him to show us the path of life as promised. I’ve watched him open doors that I’m incapable to even touch. Ask and you my friend, will receive.
God is everything yes there's nothing he don't know all powerful see all knows all high of all highs Love God this is all that matters ask Jesus for forgiveness God Bless
After he drowned all his poorly-designed creations and repopulated the world through generations of incest he tells his followers go slaughter all the Canaanites and has bears rip 42 children to pieces for teasing a mans baldness. Ah love.
@@mohammedhanif6780 Which came first consciousness or life? In our experience matter and consciousness are related. It seems that our experience insists that matter must exist before consciousness followed by eons of forming all the elements before life can begin.
@@rubiks6 First point. It doesn't fail to account for the creation, for the god we have anthropomrophised could still exist. Second point: Why do we need to account for the creation?
It doesn't matter for two reasons. (1) God may not be a single person the way humans normally think of personhood. (2) The universe has laws of cause and effect. Nothing happens in complete isolation. Eventually there is a reaction to every little thing that happens. Therefore you can postulate a "personal " god who knows everything and then takes appropriate action. Or you can simply let everything take care of itself. The result will be the same either way. Deism, theism, or atheism . . . the universe is the same no matter our choice of beliefs.
Suppose I ask God questions in order to test his knowledge. What would I ask ? Will he answer ? And how could I check his answers ? I would need to have access to the correct answers. Then compare his answers with the correct answers in order to give him a grade. I would need to know at least as much as God in order to test him, which is impossible.
@@SabiazothPsyche Bible is fiction It has hidden message The God in the bible is pertaining to the energy In the beginning there was a word/energy and the word was God
Does God Know Everything? Yes - God is the all-experiencer. Yes, that means you and me and everything else is a perspective God is taking in this - God's dream. You just intentionally forget what you are.
Honestly Stop searching God in an intellectual manner. Saint Francis, Buddha, Rumi saw God when they were free of concepts and they left aside any intellectual desire.
I've been told that God is timeless (how could anyone know ?). How could God know what he is going to do tomorrow ? For him, there is no tomorrow. He has no future.
God can choose to not know something at a certain moment in time. He can though choose to get to know something if he wills it that way. He is not an insecure micromanager that needs to know every single thing at any given moment. I remember reading in the Bible how God didn't know how bad Sodom and Gamorrah was at a particular time when it came to their ungodly practices there. He sent angels there to see if it was so. Once he found out through his angels what was going on he decided to act. Prior to that he didn't know because he apparently didn't choose to keep watching every single thing that was happening on earth in real time. Just wanted to throw that in there.
@@GetRekTUWiLL God sent angels to see Lot, not to see if Sodom & Gomorrah was so, he already knew how it was. The message to lot was to get out, the city would be destroyed.
The God Paradox... If God knows everything that could possibly happen, the infinity of truths, then he knows nothing definite. But if he knows nothing definite, then he does not know everything...
@@bazstrutt8247 Not really but I don't discount the possibility that Bigfoot did exist at one time. I never really followed all the reports about Bigfoot's sightings. But imagination can fuel some weird stories.
Bigfoot and gods are the best hide n seek players in our universe. Many people have claimed to see them, still there is no tangible evidence either exist
It is possible for god to know the limits of everything.. that is to say the extremes at the edge of everything.. by knowing the extremes you can infer the infinite volume of knowledge.. you also would know the beginning and end without everything of substance in the middle.
It's sort of a play on words based upon the idea that there are two different types of "knowing". You can know something in the sense that you understand it to be true and you can also "know" something in the sense that you have experienced it. If there is something that you don't understand and then you come to understand it, two things have happened. You have learned something, increasing your understanding of the Universe; also, you have experienced the act of having learned a new thing. The argument basically boils down to a statement that if an omniscient god already knows all there is to know then can't know what it feels like to learn something new.
We don't even know if God exists ! We certainly don't know the state of his knowledge ! But if we are talking about a hypothetical God, then I suppose we can make up anything. The only thing we have to be careful about is saying something that is unacceptable to the donaters.
Yoga says: Your true SELF is God. You just have to drop your chronic thinking 😃 Consciousness is God. Every living being is a reflection of God in an imperfect mirror. If something exists that cannot affect consciousness, it does not exist. So, true consciousness knows everything. It's our mind that blocks us from knowing. Our thoughts are like clouds. Read "be as you are" by David Goodman
What if I approach 2 doors. One door is marked "God Knows Everything" and the other says "God's Knowledge Is Limited." So I knock on a door. I hear God say "you are knocking on the wrong door." So I knock on the other door. Which door will God open?
15:46 ... "Because even if God didn’t exist, possibilities, infinities of infinities of possibilities would still exist." No they wouldn't, not if God is the source of everything.
Jack Shadow if god is the source of everything that would be a limit. Infinite possibilities could not exist because the necessity of a god is needed to create the possible. Free will doesn’t exist with a god.
Dear Mr. Kuhn, There is no meaning in all these concepts I analyse, viz. "Free will, consciousness, Truth, ... ", so long as I haven't defined "I" as a particular sequence of particles and specify a definite criterion of proof related to satisfaction of my needs to verify the accuracy of the theory I assume as to the origin of those particles.
@@Antediluvian137 It means a being who embodies infinity. Finite beings know a finite set of propositions. An infinite set of propositions can only be known by an infinite being. That's the question in the video. "How can god know infinite things." The only answer would be if he himself was infinite. I'm not saying there is an all knowing god, but if there was, that would be the only answer.
@@Ndo01 The problem is, what would it mean for such an infinite being to exist? What does it mean for an infinite being to know infinite things? I can get what you're saying, naturally, but it's just not consistent. _We_ are "beings", and _we_ "know" things. Extrapolating those humans concepts with the word "infinity" makes the idea meaningless to me. God would have to be beyond that, in which case talking about him "knowing" anything is totally abstract. But I'm not really disagreeing - if we allow to express this idea that we do not know as an infinite being, then sure we may as well say he knows infinite things. But I'm just expressing that I can't see that as a meaningful statement.
@@Antediluvian137 Well I agree. It doesn't make sense, but there is an impression of sense, like an impressionist painting from afar. Objective reality is beyond representation. We can't 'not' talk about it from a human-centric frame. That's why 'god' is anthropomorphized. We can't talk directly about god, only around it, with human words. 'All-knowing' itself arbitrarily presupposes the nature of a god's knowing to be the same as human knowing. It is a representation of a concept that we have no words to adequately represent, so we ascribe other inadequate words like 'infinite' and even 'being' to try to wrap our heads around it. But if theists are going to run with the arbitrary axiom that there is a god and he is all knowing (whatever that means), then being an infinite being (whatever that means) is the only answer. We can only accept and reason within the arbitrary system of rules.
@@Ndo01 Well said - I understand what you mean. My initial hold-up was that it's like a mathematical proof that concludes with "infinity = infinity". But it shows our limitations of human language, and particularly in trying to describe the unknowable.
It comes down to perspective. And God has full perspective therefore full knowledge. I was watching exploration on what is 4th dimension. And to explain it guy illustrated how 3rd people us see 2D world. On a piece of paper he drew a stick figure and next to it a box and a dot inside of that box. 2d stick figure can only see edges of the box and is not aware of what is inside. Where you watching from above have the full perspective not only of the paper and its dimensions, the stick figure but also the box and what's on the inside of that box. All because of perspective. I would be consider having full knowledge relating to this piece of paper and the options this stick figure has. So if God has perspective above all dimensions. Not only God has full perspective of seeing everything at any time but also sees all the options. So from his perspective he knows everything.
with respect, that is simply an analogy, a metaphor. It is nothing to do with knowledge. Knowledge is a concept that consists, for 'thinking' beings only, of one or more verifiable observations being known, and known that they are known. That is all. There is no other as far as i know, lol.
"There is nothing in the universe that God is not aware of." “God knows what humanity needs even though humanity remains confused. God knows what is coming for the human family even though the human family is obsessed with its past. God knows that humanity must unite in the face of great danger even though people continue their conflicts and continue their admonitions against one another. What God knows and what people believe are not the same.” "God is like the air. Everyone breathes the air, but few pay any attention to it. Everyone is sustained every moment with every breath. Their bodies depend upon each breath in order to live in the next moment. Cut off this supply of air and the person dies quickly and everything comes to an end. God is like that-so pervasive, so present, so supportive and so nourishing." A few quotes about God from The New Message from God - *NewMessage ORG*
Everything happening in the entire universe is sort of being replayed! God gave Freewill to all beings, they did what they wanted to do, and God is there from the beginning of the play until The End! So basically God being everywhere has been at The End and has seen everything that happened (by Freewill of all beings) and therefore He knows everything. God was there at The Beginning and he is there at The End. So He knows everything because He has seen it happened. So anyone doing 'good' or 'bad' does it by its own Freewill, and God being at The End has seen it, so He Knows!
Even their gods can't seem to get around chaos theory. Their current god thought he had created perfection. Only to see it fail and have to start again. So their god knowing everything is not possible. And that's the only option that makes free will possible.
Wouldn’t a god that knows everything know when and what prayers he will answer and knows his actions in the “end times” which might mean that he is powerless to change any decision since it is already known and a change of a known decision would mean he doesn’t know everything and if he can’t change a known decision, wouldn’t that mean he is limited?
No. Your construct is flawed. Why would He be powerless if He knows all things ? He can't. It is like saying God can't be perfect because He can't be imperfect. How can that which is limited fully understand that which is limitless? You can know parts or observe particulars but to fully understand God you would need to be God. Even Paul states that He looks through the glass dimly and prophesies in part- why? Because if He could prophesy in full He would be God .
@@bigben9379 First, which god? Bible god? Allah, Vishnu? Second, you are missing the point. If he knows that for example, in Year 2300 he will destroy the “devil” then this cannot be changed because that would mean that his word is not perfect. If he said for example, in 2 hours, I will raise my left hand instead of my right, that timeline is known by him because he is “allegedly” all knowing so if something other than that timeline happens, he is not all knowing. So with that said, it is said in the Bible that the names to go to heaven are written in the Book of Life. That absolutely means that If my name is there then there is nothing at all I can do to change what god wrote there unless I have mire power than to erase a name on what he wrote as what is his known timeline. What now?
@@TomAnderson_81 God of the Bible. If He said something will happen as a final decree then thats it it will happen. If He says He will relent His wrath if His people do this or that in the Old Testament upon their activity then He will act accordingly. If He relents because they chose correctly did he know the outcome beforehand? Yes. So we have a perspective and He has one as well. We experience things as theyb happen. He being independent of time knows all things. for example , Jesus was referred to as the Lamb slain since before the foundations of the world. Could Jesus have done other than He did at the moment of ,Father let this cup pass but never-the-less your will be done.No. Did that mean He didn't experience the reality of suffering and all that He experienced as a man?Again, no. So it really boils done to does God know all things .Yes. Unless he chooses to forget something. Like when He chooses not not remeber someone's individual sins any longer.Did He choose to do that from eternity? I would say probably.
If anyone ever provides evidence that the supernatural exists I'd think about it. So far it's just empty claims and old stories. Really grim, petty, and cruel stories.
God all knowing because god has a device which can see any moment of time at god request and god can also interact with that moment of time. My opinion. The device god has is a crystal clear ball where god can see eveytink.
Hello Mr. Robert - You are really fantastic in bringing out the new angles to truth while trying to entertain your curious mind. I would like to just give you a suggestion as why don't you meet several ardent Hindu believers of God in India such as Sadhguru(worldwide famous nowadays...) and others ....there are also quite a few of intellectual spirituals in India to speak to ...I would suggest to give it a try , may be you might find some answers for your truth or might be some different or new angle to look at truth or might end up with quenching your thirst for reality & truth
Several issues with the contributors: 🔹God heing unable to know the future. Not a truly perfect Being. It's actually the case that God could choose to not see certain possibilities in detail, in order to (1) not interfere iwth an individual's free will, and (2) to make His relationship with us more interesting. (2) God only knows all true propositions. No, perfect knowledge includes all false propositions. He must know the true and false side of every situation to make the correct choices.
@@douglasparise3986 no problem with that. Robert Lawrence Kuhn is also a "freestyling realist and sometimes skeptic." So am I. But, at some point, skepticism, like philosophical investigation, must end, we must acknowledge we've found something useful, and maybe even true. That, as Robert says is, getting "Closer to Truth."
@@johnsmith1474 I hope my motivations are not obtuse. I also wonder why god bothers to play the movie? Hey wait a minute... if God plays the movie, do we know what the movie is about?
I think Robert's difficulty in understanding God's omniscience stems from his notion that of future truth. To God the future is the same as the present. God is not limited by time like we are limited. There is therefore no problems whatsoever that God knows future truth because that future is unfolding right in front of God. The other thing Robert doesn't get it is that God knowing the future does not mean God is undermining human freewill. God knows what we are going to do but He didn't make us to it. It is still our decision when we do something. God doesn't force us or determine for us what we actually do although He gives us the intuition of what we ought or ought not to do. The omniscient God is the Judeo-Christian God, so if Robert wants to understand God's omniscience, he is better off reading the Bible and the writings of St. Augustine and Aquinas on this topic rather than listen to baseless speculations from theologians.
If God knew everything, he would have known exactly what human beings would do when he gave them "free will". If God could do anything, he would have either given humans better character, or else would have declined to give them free will. If God did not know everything, and could not do anything, he would have an Achilles heel, and would cease to be "God". Religious believers depend on that kind of mythology in order to get what they desire from religion, and to ensure obedience.
The image most people have of God is a symbol for the God principle. The image of a powerful man is more approachable than an all knowing, all seeing, invisible Star Trek like entity from another dimension. God is real alright but nothing like most people have been taught to believe God to be. Just like mother nature isn't a woman with saggy boobs in a gauze dress and flowers in her hair. It is a principle but the imagine of a caring mother is approachable to humans and easy to teach children.
First, thank you, good stuff Peter’s rebuttal against counter possible world, counter factual doesn’t seem to be consistent Let’s assume I’m a convinced, saved Christian and I ask…”if I later disavow jesus as my savior will I not get into heaven” According to his theory there is no “true” answer to that question. If in the actual world I will remain a Christian and be received into heaven the counter factual, possible world is unknown to God If it were known, that imploded his thesis that counter factual are not truth bearers
It's curious that humans can't definitly define a human but some seem to be so sure of the definition of God
They also like to use human analogies to try to explain god, but god is beyond human and our understanding.
It’s not curious at all. First humans can define ‘human’, for example genetically. Secondly none of the large religions claim to be able to define god, in fact that man cannot define god. And finally is it really curious that some people maintain unrealistic opinions and ideas. Or is it in fact all our everyday experience that this is the case. So no, it’s not curious because it’s not accurate and even if it was it would not be surprising.
You correctly said it..
@@bdjshwbwhdhh1991 So can you please fully define yourself. I'm really curious.
anders lindgren - a ha, you’ve changed the goalposts, in your first post you talk about ‘definitely defining’ human, now because I have pointed out what a ridiculous statement that was because we can definitely define ‘human’ using genetics you have changed to ‘fully defining’. I’m not playing stupid anti-intellectual games with you. It’s entirely obvious that we can define ‘human’ using genetics, everybody knows this, and it’s also obvious that to ‘fully define’ anything, i.e. to describe all aspects of something with nothing left over, is a ridiculous thing to ask. Plus, if you’d ever bothered to study religion, you would know that there are no ‘full definitions’ of God, and that in fact all religions claim that such a definition would, by the transcendent nature of god, be impossible. So you are changing your argument mid way and you are setting up a straw man to knock down in the same breath. Very, very low quality thinking and argumentation on your part. Not worth engaging with anymore.
The interviews are textbook. Rather than playing 'gotcha' and interrupting, he asks genuinely searching and challenging questions, and then gives the interviewee space to give a proper answer.
He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart. Yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish. (Ecc.3:11)
I love these interviews.. understanding what or who God might be will take us to the next level of understanding who we are and why we exist in this huge Universe.
Read the Bible
Even if God does not know everything, Is it that enough to distrust him? Who am I that my expectations should always be true.
I love the premise of the question. How can God know all infinite possibilities? Since God can't answer that question some guy at a University will know. This is the best show in God's infinite possibilities. Perhaps Robert Lawrence Kuhn is God and he's seeing how smart we are.
If God is All Knowing, then He could never have thought up anything.
To think up things and decide whether to create them or not means that God was NOT All Knowing prior to thinking something up. God could never have any new thoughts because new thoughts would be providing Him with new knowledge which he did not previously have.
God isn't human though.
Honestly, this man asks the silliest questions. How can we, as mere humans, hope to understand God or eternity? Much of our acceptance of God is simple belief without facts. We do that every day when we believe what total strangers tell us things but we don't know them personally or professionally. Weatherman, politicians, other people on the street. Is God all knowing? Yes, but not because He necessarily puts ideas in our head. We have free will of action and he knows the outcome without forcing the outcome. He doesn't need to as that would spoil the experiment. He needs us to act a as we would and He notes the outcome.
I love how they keep saying "He"
There is a reason other than sexism. Calling God "IT" sounds disrespectful and "She" couldn't be the furthest from the truth of the matter.
In occult teachings the male and female principles don't refer to genitalia but active and passive principles. It is more accurate to refer to God as a He but personally when I am working or anything doing with advanced spiritualism I always refer to the highest as the "One".
@@guidedmeditation2396 god would be a mixture of both masculine and feminine energy.
Albizu Nonya gender He
Respect god's pronouns!
I caught that also.
People can not comprehend God's awesomeness we are not capable. For you to question God is a mistake.
For most of us thinking itself is a mistake. We may not be able to comprehend awesomeness in its totality. But we can appreciate clues. I suppose you are one of the chosen few who comprehend it totally.
I don't have enough words to say thank you to Robert and his team .
Kuhn is a remarkable person/scientist, though this video isn't
one of his good ones. It falls within the genre of, "could god make
a rock so large he couldn't lift it?"
I have enough words. But i hesitate to use them all. Sometimes less is more.
The Vedic scriptures reveal that God expands himself into every atom and is cognizant every neno second .
God knows everything that exists, he has created, its potential and every possible scenario or eventuality. Yet, God uses his ability to foreknow the future selectively, not automatically. He does not choose to know all details if the future choices his intelligent creatures, angels and humans, will make. He leaves that up to them. Although, he does provide laws and reveals rewards and consequences for actions taken.
Hmn. Ya ..k. ill get on board with that
GOD is consciousness and is omnipresent , it is like if electricity was conscious it would know who is using what electrical equipment all the time. so we are all are conscious hence GOD knows everything.
God is an eternal spirit that created the material world!! Hes separate from it..but does intervene...as the book of psalms quotes his understanding is INFINITE!!
God=energy
We are children who, having discovered a book on trigonometry, are trying to understand it using an abacus.
I know who make a mess. You also Do a mess, but it's a important part of understanding. Love whatching the processs of elevation. Philippe Martin
Maybe it's possible for God to know everything about a certain sphere of his influence. But I can't imagine enjoying life without more things to learn. So I hope that God is still learning things that are above him, but maybe he knows everything about the kingdom over which he rules. Hopefully someday we can become like him.
So you hope to be imaginary. Believe me... That is easy to accomplish
silly question. Of course God knows everything. He ORDAINED whatever is to happen to happen. That is what Scripture says.
Not a leaf falls without His knowledge.
...and being omniscient means what he knows the future of the universe at the moment he creates which means he has created everything that will necessarily happen. When your life is determined and known before you are born, you have no agency. You have no free-will and only god bears responsibility for all of it. That is the logic of it but of course, it's all nonsense since there is no evidence that the supernatural exists.
@@lrvogt1257: Predestination is a fact as far as God is concerned, not as far as we are concerned.
Our life is pre-recorded on something like a video tape. God fully knows what kind of decision each of us is destined to make even before we were born into this world. As far as God's omniscience is concerned, we can imagine a stamp on everyone's forehead that says "Heaven" or "Hell."
PS: 18:68. “How can you stand that which you do not comprehend?" ( سورة الكهف )
@@wahnano : If you create something with full knowledge of the consequences you created those consequences. Humans not knowing the future does not mean it isn't pre-determined
In any case it's all rubbish. There is no evidence of the supernatural and free-will is an illusion. Particles are deterministic and we are made of particles. See Sabine Hossenfelder and / or Cosmic Skeptic on free will. Interesting stuff.
This is the first UA-cam video that made me dizzy within 1 minute. Congratulations
Try not to spin around as you're watching it. Maybe just sit down.
I advise u pay more attention.
One thing I know for sure is that God is a whole lot smarter than any of US.
Let's see. He created humans so poorly he drowned ALL OF THEM, including innocent children, out of frustration and anger. Brilliant. A real success story.
To know anything, one has to exist.
As I see it, because there's no past or future to God and because for Him, everything is present, God's omniscience does not contradict human free will. He get to know our future as if it were happening now and He see's it as we can see something that is happening at the present moment. But we should not be too atached to concepts in our knowledge about God. They are useful, but limited.
But can God exceed the speed of light?
I think therefore l am....Moses asked god.."who should l say that commands these commandments" and god said " TELL THEM I AM"food for thought😇
"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So my ways are higher than your ways And my thoughts than your thoughts."(Isa.55:9) For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So great is his loyal love those who fear him.(Ps.103:11) if you want to search God‘s thoughts, you must search his words!!!
And most of all, have faith, justification by Faith
In my philosophy Dr. Kuhn, God knows all but uses us to experience what He knows. We are one with Him. There are many things I know and many I dont know about what I know. Ex. I once hit a line drive 450' 20' off the ground. Best hit I have ever made. I did it in practice so I know I can do it. I dont know what it is like in front of a crowd to do that to end The World Series.
Knowing is not the same as experience. And I beleive that is our relationship to God. To experience what He know so He can experience what He knows through us.
It may sound a little nutty but what we dont know is vastly more than what we do know, very little. Not a religious beleif but yet my beleif.
In the Christian belief Father , the Word and Holy Spirit are God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. He was tempted in all ways yet without sin. Jesus who was outside of time as the Word became one of us subject to time .
Thus when He said before Abraham was I AM . Without past or future God simply is.
It can be said as evidenced in John before the crucifiction Jesus prayed that as the Father is in Him and He in the Father that they be in His followers through the Holy Spirit so that we can be one with God in a spiritual sense.
I know its been 2 years and its 2:38 AM here and I had to much coffee .... HAHA
I would like to know why I wasn’t asked to be on this world and why I’m not going to be asked to leave.
It strikes me that the problem of free will is exactly the same in religion as in scientific philosophy. An omniscient God is identical to Everett's many-worlds model. In both cases free will exists as an illusion, but feels real. Both are technically deterministic, yet unpredictable by humans. Free-will is another word for the measurement problem in QM.
God has not predetermined our choices, but he does know what we will choose ....big differnce.
@@goldentwilight1944 Super-determinism is one possible loophole to Bell's theorem, that Bell himself pointed out. God is just another word for super-determinism.
I would love to hear an expert of QM on this idea. I feel one must be careful to relate quantum systems to macro systems, in all cases, but specifically something like humans making decisions. The two worlds are very different.
@@Antediluvian137 Freeman Dyson agrees with you: ua-cam.com/video/pcicI_GJGcM/v-deo.html
But, nobody knows, yet, where the border between macro and micro is, or what to make of the Wheeler-DeWitt equation.
God is aware of the weight of every single atom in the universe
Years ago Alan Watts said in one of is talks. We will sit around the throne of God and someone will ask God how did you make everything and he will say; I do not know I just did it like opening and closing your hand. One must remember that God cannot bite his own teeth or see his face except for reflections like a mirror. Like God we cannot bite our teeth or see our face except for a reflection. The mystery is what keeps it interesting. Knowing in advance that Caption Ahab was towed under by Moby Dick ruins the story
I have so much love and respect for Watt's point of view. But aren't there movies we love rewatching? Aren't there narratives that are exciting because we know the end, but dont know how it will get there?
More so, I struggle reconciling Watt's view with ethics. He seems to take the world as fundamentally a comedy or theater, when it seems more like a tragedy. (But then again have you seen his lecture on Jung?)
Yes that is why we watch Yankee Doddle Dandy every 4th of July. That is why I listen to Alan over and over for Forty years. Yes life is theater and sometimes a comedy or tragedy or drama but never serious; I always remember what the great dinner I just finished turns into.
@@edwardhayes6113 There's so much truth and beauty in Watt's views, but I feel like there are limits. That's why I object to pantheism: some things that happen I just cant associate with the divine--forgive the cheap stock example, but children dying of cancer.
I think theres something brave and beautiful about looking the world in the eye, but perhaps I'm too weak too do so?
Still can't control humanity's unquenching intellectual curiosity. MeenaC:-)
As God is everything He must know everything. The definition of God in higher ages, before the material age we are in now.; was Consciousness; Existence; Bliss. We share in the first two but in place of the last we have five senses. We experience duality through them; good and bad; pain and pleasure. We learn to align ourselves with reality as constantly being stupid and banging our heads against the same stone wall does not work.
How come god doesnt know that his angel will revolt against him?
GOD knew, still let it happen for a reason, maybe?. MeenaC:-)
God=energy
How does an fallible human know the mind of god well enough to explain it in great detail? Yeah this theist is full of it. How would god know what he doesn't know? To just define a god as all knowing is just saying god is this way because that's how he's defined. A god's omniscience can't be shown. It's pure speculation and wishful thinking.
It is more than speculation. It is utter nonsense. God could not communicate to us a single thought! That thought would have to enter our brain. The only that our brain receives information is through our senses. Then thoughts are created by our consciousness. God's thoughts have to be stored somewhere. That somewhere can only be within the universe. In quantum energy or waves. But waves have no consciousness. So the universe has no consciousness. If God has consciousness, He cannot communicate it to the universe. Have a read of my blog: jpcorriveau.com/blog/ .
We can ask the question. So we must be special somehow.
We can't be just smart apes living on a speck of dust. Being swept along by the winds of the galaxy.
Sorry, it seems that way.
We have chased the gods from nature to the edge of reality and found only self delusion.
Raymond Johnson You gotta point.
Thomas Ridley LOL! Actually, that is what’s happening to us. Smart apes, though I wouldn’t say smart, living on a speck of dust and being swept along by the winds of the galaxy. That’s exactly what’s happening, until one awakens and becomes aware of life as it really is and their willful alignment with it. So being swept along is for the unmindful who knows nothing about the life system. Which stands to reason, why chasing the gods only leads to self delusion, bcuz self delusion is all people have driving them.
Bummer
I find this series such great entertainment, I’ve realised it PBS, always loved PBS
Just theoretically speaking.... if one had access to all of time, would that be just as good as knowing everything? One could “know everything” without having been the creator.
rubiks6 Interesting. I had never heard of such a thing. Thanks for pointing that out!
rubiks6 I like that. I’m inclined to believe it. But I contend that not only god enjoys this perspective. Many thanks for an informative comment.
rubiks6 It has to be enough for me to know it is at least theoretically possible. My brain hurts. Many many thanks.
rubiks6 I look forward to seeing more of your comments. Blessings all around.
rubiks6 “ah, Bach”
Answer- Yes
In the scriptures where is it were given to Moses by God, said to not make God in man's image😊 I love your show!👍🏼💓
God knows everything, what does it pick?
What really would everything mean or encompass?is everything countable or infinite?how would one know or judge about knowing everything??
Isaiah 46:9-10 KJV - ...I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning (ie. He tells the future before it happens), and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
If a god knows the future then you have no free will, therefore, any reward or punishment based on such an illusion of free will would be wholly unjustified. For a god to know every detail coming from what he creates is to create every detail. He casts the die long before you're born so choice would be an illusion.
@@lrvogt1257 Hello are you a calvinist?
@@opindras.bangerh129 No. I don’t know what’s true but determinism seems most logical to me. The supernatural seems silly like fairy tales.
Can someone please explain to me the argument about making a mess, I didn't understand it
Thank you in advance
If God is who people of faith believe God is, why would we think that we could possibly understand God's mind?
Instead of saying "God knows everything there is" would be more accurate to say "what God knows is everything there is"...
That suggest that God is out of business. It's boring to know all that is going on and not to have nothing to explore anymore.
@@Carlos-fl6ch Does anything outside actual experience exist? If it does, can you tell anything about it?
@@viorelagocs to me it does. To god it doesn't seem to be. He knows everything experiences everything causes everything and he knows exactly what is coming so he is totally done. Utterly boring that is.
@@viorelagocs There are concepts outside of experience, and I'm specifically thinking of mathematical truths - for example, let's take the number pi - we can ask whether pi could have been anything different from what it is, but when we explore its relations to geometry and consider the countless known and unknown fundamental connections in number theory, we can rationalise that pi could not have been any different to what it is. So the idea of considering a universe where our fundamental mathematical constants could be any different, would be absurd. So that tells me that there is naturally truth outside of what we experience. I'm talking about truth that can be expressed mathematically, and there are naturally infinite mathematical propositions. So I can appreciate the notion that God exists in the sense that those fundamental truths exist, and that God is equivalent to nature / truth, but I cannot conceptualise of the Abrahamic God that He is a mind with experience making decisions and actually knows all fundamental truths as if on a list - that is anthropomorphism. But I can appreciate the depth of knowledge that we have uncovered, and the infinite depth that we as humans cannot be privy to - natural laws and fundamental truths. It's when we start talking about human experience with spiritual/metaphysical freedom that we tend to confuse ourselves about the nature of God.
@@Carlos-fl6ch I challenge you to tell me something... anything about what exists beyond the boundaries of your experience...
‘God’ raises so many more questions; isn’t the universe complicated enough?
The idea of omniscient god and us having free will is a logical contradiction
Well, it would be much better to see an argument instead of that assertion.
@Stefano Portoghesi Hey, to be honest that was not the argument I was expecting. However, you raised an interesting point.
Well, discussing metaphysical issues have never been an easy task. The God question is by far the most important question we can encounter while being alive!
Now, in a nutshell, the central point of your writing is why does not God show himself to humanity once and for all to avoid all of these "useless" discussions?
Mi response:
If God exist, He must have sufficient reasons of why he doesn't do what you want him to do. Another thing is that, the concept of "faith" in religious context is useless if God reveals everything there is to know about himself. In fact, Saint Paul wrote that if that even takes place, it will be in heaven.
But, in fact, a Christian can safetly say that even if we do not know everything about God, the New Testament is about God's revelation! That is the whole point! God reveled himself in the person of Christ and let us know how good and benevolent he is. Whithout "that divine reveletion", there is not a way of knowing that God loves us-I suspect you do not like this answer.
I don't know your main philosophical position about the matter, but you don't have to agree with me to notice that the silence of God is not an obstacle that can stop us from arguing about divine attributes.
Let's say, one friend of you is in the other side of the country and he is talking about you at this moment; so, just because you are not present or are aware of this talk, it doesn't mean you don't exist, quite the contrary!
*Please, this is not my first language. I hope you understood what I intended to say.
Have a good day, friend!
@Stefano Portoghesi Hello, what you've just said can be found in the Bible (Luke: 23:37) and it is an important part for theologians. I do not have time to write about.
Again, why would God argue about himself, and whith whom, with athists, with you, maybe?
I said that God most have sufficient reasons of why he does not appear to us. After all, He doesn't have to fullfil all your desires!
Buy, friend.
Well put!
@Stefano Portoghesi if Christ let himself down from the cross, you and I would have to pay for our sins instead of allowing him to pay the penalty for us. He allows us to receive eternal life (in) Christ by simply having faith in the one who died for us.
2 Corinthians 5:21
God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God
I use to wonder if God was real until he showed me over and over again, now I’m incapable of not believing. It’s a special feeling to have the creator of all things attend to your needs as a father does his infant child. For him to show us the path of life as promised. I’ve watched him open doors that I’m incapable to even touch.
Ask and you my friend, will receive.
God is everything yes there's nothing he don't know all powerful see all knows all high of all highs Love God this is all that matters ask Jesus for forgiveness God Bless
After he drowned all his poorly-designed creations and repopulated the world through generations of incest he tells his followers go slaughter all the Canaanites and has bears rip 42 children to pieces for teasing a mans baldness.
Ah love.
Is the state of 'being' equivalent to 'knowing'?
If we could be everywhere in the Universe at the same instance of time we would 'be' the Universe.
well that cant be true. you right now are in a specific time and place. that doesn't entail that you are that time and space.
@Stefano Portoghesi
They convolute THIS GOD into everything under sun...but REFUSE TO ASK AND GET GOD TO SPEAK FOR GOD!
@@mohammedhanif6780
On a fundamental level would that not violate the space-time continuum as a fusion of space and time?
@@mohammedhanif6780
Which came first consciousness or life?
In our experience matter and consciousness are related.
It seems that our experience insists that matter must exist before consciousness followed by eons of forming all the elements before life can begin.
@Stefano Portoghesi well you could always read what He has said. He has revealed the Quran.
"Am I anthropomorphising God too much" - I think that's been one of humanities problems for thousands of years.
@@rubiks6 Maybe. Maybe God was created in our image.
@@rubiks6 First point. It doesn't fail to account for the creation, for the god we have anthropomrophised could still exist. Second point: Why do we need to account for the creation?
DLee1100s : Darkmatter2525 God's God ua-cam.com/video/ODetOE6cbbc/v-deo.html
rubiks6
Creation? That almost implies finished yet just about everything changes so where is the creation? Where is this “creator”?
@@fredriksundberg4624 Even a cursory examination of the history books will reveal manipulation of people was a result of religion, not the cause.
It doesn't matter for two reasons. (1) God may not be a single person the way humans normally think of personhood. (2) The universe has laws of cause and effect. Nothing happens in complete isolation. Eventually there is a reaction to every little thing that happens. Therefore you can postulate a "personal " god who knows everything and then takes appropriate action. Or you can simply let everything take care of itself. The result will be the same either way. Deism, theism, or atheism . . . the universe is the same no matter our choice of beliefs.
Suppose I ask God questions in order to test his knowledge. What would I ask ? Will he answer ?
And how could I check his answers ? I would need to have access to the correct answers.
Then compare his answers with the correct answers in order to give him a grade.
I would need to know at least as much as God in order to test him, which is impossible.
The biblical God knows even the things yet unknown.
God=energy
@@johnyoutube6746 God also = eternal. So you better explain how that energy is without beginning, without ending, and without recycling. ;-)
@@SabiazothPsyche
Bible is fiction
It has hidden message
The God in the bible is pertaining to the energy
In the beginning there was a word/energy and the word was God
@@johnyoutube6746 Okay, so your God has a beginning (non-eternal.) That then would explain its energy accurately.
@@SabiazothPsyche
There are no true God
God=energy
Simple logic
Energy cannot be created nor destroyed
Energy is eternal
Does God Know Everything? Yes - God is the all-experiencer. Yes, that means you and me and everything else is a perspective God is taking in this - God's dream. You just intentionally forget what you are.
Creepy beard guy chimes in with vacuous blather.
Honestly Stop searching God in an intellectual manner. Saint Francis, Buddha, Rumi saw God when they were free of concepts and they left aside any intellectual desire.
Incredibly interesting n essential listening as well as watching this channel.
They forgot the time where God pressed the reset button and flooded the whole world.
All the Gods are different and some know more than others and other Gods know less than others. Likewise to humanity.
God doesn't know everything. He knows you and you know some things. And He knows others as well.
I've been told that God is timeless (how could anyone know ?).
How could God know what he is going to do tomorrow ?
For him, there is no tomorrow.
He has no future.
Does God knows everything? Yes, Perfection is such that it covers all not just morality and Knowledge(Science), but Love also.
God can choose to not know something at a certain moment in time. He can though choose to get to know something if he wills it that way. He is not an insecure micromanager that needs to know every single thing at any given moment.
I remember reading in the Bible how God didn't know how bad Sodom and Gamorrah was at a particular time when it came to their ungodly practices there. He sent angels there to see if it was so. Once he found out through his angels what was going on he decided to act. Prior to that he didn't know because he apparently didn't choose to keep watching every single thing that was happening on earth in real time. Just wanted to throw that in there.
@@GetRekTUWiLL God sent angels to see Lot, not to see if Sodom & Gomorrah was so, he already knew how it was. The message to lot was to get out, the city would be destroyed.
@@GetRekTUWiLL God has to know everything, because the way in which some people lie, at times is only he alone can save ya.
God=energy
@@johnyoutube6746 True!
Of course God knows literally everything, since God has instant access to the entire timelines of all Universes.
So god know everything he will do? Does god has free will then?
@@michaellejean-baptiste2631 He doesn't do anything, he just is. All he is doing , he already did, he is outside time.
@@cristianm7097 so he didn't do anything when he killed all of Egypt first born in the bible?
The God Paradox... If God knows everything that could possibly happen, the infinity of truths, then he knows nothing definite. But if he knows nothing definite, then he does not know everything...
Does RObert Lawrence Kuhn ever ask Dharmic Priests same question?
You are right about the checklist.
Does Bigfoot exist ?
I’m travelling to Oxford to speak with an expert on Bigfoot’s traits....
I wonder... maybe the One on the cross died for Bigfoot too.
John Brzykcy
Do you believe Bigfoot exists??
@@bazstrutt8247 Not really but I don't discount the possibility that Bigfoot did exist at one time. I never really followed all the reports about Bigfoot's sightings. But imagination can fuel some weird stories.
Bigfoot and gods are the best hide n seek players in our universe. Many people have claimed to see them, still there is no tangible evidence either exist
It is possible for god to know the limits of everything.. that is to say the extremes at the edge of everything.. by knowing the extremes you can infer the infinite volume of knowledge.. you also would know the beginning and end without everything of substance in the middle.
20:50 can someone explain his conclusion?
It's sort of a play on words based upon the idea that there are two different types of "knowing". You can know something in the sense that you understand it to be true and you can also "know" something in the sense that you have experienced it.
If there is something that you don't understand and then you come to understand it, two things have happened. You have learned something, increasing your understanding of the Universe; also, you have experienced the act of having learned a new thing.
The argument basically boils down to a statement that if an omniscient god already knows all there is to know then can't know what it feels like to learn something new.
It's always amazing that humans have to speak for God. It's almost like he doesn't exist. The premise of the question is flawed.
We don't even know if God exists !
We certainly don't know the state of his knowledge !
But if we are talking about a hypothetical God, then I suppose we can make up anything.
The only thing we have to be careful about is saying something that is unacceptable to the donaters.
Yoga says:
Your true SELF is God. You just have to drop your chronic thinking 😃
Consciousness is God. Every living being is a reflection of God in an imperfect mirror. If something exists that cannot affect consciousness, it does not exist. So, true consciousness knows everything. It's our mind that blocks us from knowing. Our thoughts are like clouds.
Read "be as you are" by David Goodman
I know one thing God doesn't. I know how it feels not to know everything.
Hey anders... I agree with your statements. I just wish I knew .001 of .001 of.... everything.
But couldn’t God know vicariously what it feels like to not know everything since he would know the passcode to your consciousness?
What if I approach 2 doors. One door is marked "God Knows Everything" and the other says "God's Knowledge Is Limited." So I knock on a door. I hear God say "you are knocking on the wrong door." So I knock on the other door. Which door will God open?
15:46 ... "Because even if God didn’t exist, possibilities, infinities of infinities of possibilities would still exist." No they wouldn't, not if God is the source of everything.
Jack Shadow if god is the source of everything that would be a limit. Infinite possibilities could not exist because the necessity of a god is needed to create the possible. Free will doesn’t exist with a god.
Dear Mr. Kuhn,
There is no meaning in all these concepts I analyse, viz. "Free will, consciousness, Truth, ... ", so long as I haven't defined "I" as a particular sequence of particles and specify a definite criterion of proof related to satisfaction of my needs to verify the accuracy of the theory I assume as to the origin of those particles.
God=energy
lol why would knowing infinite things be a problem for an infinite being
Because what does that mean? That's a logically useless statement or idea.
@@Antediluvian137 It means a being who embodies infinity. Finite beings know a finite set of propositions. An infinite set of propositions can only be known by an infinite being. That's the question in the video. "How can god know infinite things." The only answer would be if he himself was infinite. I'm not saying there is an all knowing god, but if there was, that would be the only answer.
@@Ndo01 The problem is, what would it mean for such an infinite being to exist? What does it mean for an infinite being to know infinite things? I can get what you're saying, naturally, but it's just not consistent. _We_ are "beings", and _we_ "know" things. Extrapolating those humans concepts with the word "infinity" makes the idea meaningless to me. God would have to be beyond that, in which case talking about him "knowing" anything is totally abstract. But I'm not really disagreeing - if we allow to express this idea that we do not know as an infinite being, then sure we may as well say he knows infinite things. But I'm just expressing that I can't see that as a meaningful statement.
@@Antediluvian137 Well I agree. It doesn't make sense, but there is an impression of sense, like an impressionist painting from afar. Objective reality is beyond representation. We can't 'not' talk about it from a human-centric frame. That's why 'god' is anthropomorphized. We can't talk directly about god, only around it, with human words. 'All-knowing' itself arbitrarily presupposes the nature of a god's knowing to be the same as human knowing. It is a representation of a concept that we have no words to adequately represent, so we ascribe other inadequate words like 'infinite' and even 'being' to try to wrap our heads around it. But if theists are going to run with the arbitrary axiom that there is a god and he is all knowing (whatever that means), then being an infinite being (whatever that means) is the only answer. We can only accept and reason within the arbitrary system of rules.
@@Ndo01 Well said - I understand what you mean. My initial hold-up was that it's like a mathematical proof that concludes with "infinity = infinity". But it shows our limitations of human language, and particularly in trying to describe the unknowable.
It comes down to perspective.
And God has full perspective therefore full knowledge.
I was watching exploration on what is 4th dimension.
And to explain it guy illustrated how 3rd people us see 2D world.
On a piece of paper he drew a stick figure and next to it a box and a dot inside of that box.
2d stick figure can only see edges of the box and is not aware of what is inside.
Where you watching from above have the full perspective not only of the paper and its dimensions, the stick figure but also the box and what's on the inside of that box. All because of perspective.
I would be consider having full knowledge relating to this piece of paper and the options this stick figure has.
So if God has perspective above all dimensions.
Not only God has full perspective of seeing everything at any time but also sees all the options.
So from his perspective he knows everything.
with respect, that is simply an analogy, a metaphor. It is nothing to do with knowledge. Knowledge is a concept that consists, for 'thinking' beings only, of one or more verifiable observations being known, and known that they are known. That is all. There is no other as far as i know, lol.
"There is nothing in the universe that God is not aware of."
“God knows what humanity needs even though humanity remains confused. God knows what is coming for the human family even though the human family is obsessed with its past. God knows that humanity must unite in the face of great danger even though people continue their conflicts and continue their admonitions against one another. What God knows and what people believe are not the same.”
"God is like the air. Everyone breathes the air, but few pay any attention to it. Everyone is sustained every moment with every breath. Their bodies depend upon each breath in order to live in the next moment. Cut off this supply of air and the person dies quickly and everything comes to an end. God is like that-so pervasive, so present, so supportive and so nourishing."
A few quotes about God from The New Message from God - *NewMessage ORG*
Just how the hell do YOU know the mind of your god??????
Ivan
You delusional freak....
Stefano Portoghesi
Agreed
@Stefano Portoghesi That's a very good question.
Agreed. Thanks
God only know what we have learn
Lol then thats one dumb God!
Everything happening in the entire universe is sort of being replayed!
God gave Freewill to all beings, they did what they wanted to do, and God is there from the beginning of the play until The End! So basically God being everywhere has been at The End and has seen everything that happened (by Freewill of all beings) and therefore He knows everything. God was there at The Beginning and he is there at The End. So He knows everything because He has seen it happened. So anyone doing 'good' or 'bad' does it by its own Freewill, and God being at The End has seen it, so He Knows!
Even their gods can't seem to get around chaos theory.
Their current god thought he had created perfection. Only to see it fail and have to start again. So their god knowing everything is not possible. And that's the only option that makes free will possible.
If you asked God he would say “ I Am that I Am”.
Wouldn’t a god that knows everything know when and what prayers he will answer and knows his actions in the “end times” which might mean that he is powerless to change any decision since it is already known and a change of a known decision would mean he doesn’t know everything and if he can’t change a known decision, wouldn’t that mean he is limited?
Maybe God doesn't change the decisions. Maybe he leaves set up to us. Maybe God just tells us what to do and we have our choice to follow or not.
Dan Kuchar
First, that assumes his existence. Second, if he cannot choose then wouldn’t that mean he has no freewill?
No. Your construct is flawed. Why would He be powerless if He knows all things ? He can't. It is like saying God can't be perfect because He can't be imperfect.
How can that which is limited fully understand that which is limitless? You can know parts or observe particulars but to fully understand God you would need to be God. Even Paul states that He looks through the glass dimly and prophesies in part- why? Because if He could prophesy in full He would be God .
@@bigben9379
First, which god? Bible god? Allah, Vishnu?
Second, you are missing the point. If he knows that for example, in Year 2300 he will destroy the “devil” then this cannot be changed because that would mean that his word is not perfect. If he said for example, in 2 hours, I will raise my left hand instead of my right, that timeline is known by him because he is “allegedly” all knowing so if something other than that timeline happens, he is not all knowing. So with that said, it is said in the Bible that the names to go to heaven are written in the Book of Life. That absolutely means that If my name is there then there is nothing at all I can do to change what god wrote there unless I have mire power than to erase a name on what he wrote as what is his known timeline. What now?
@@TomAnderson_81 God of the Bible.
If He said something will happen as a final decree then thats it it will happen.
If He says He will relent His wrath if His people do this or that in the Old Testament upon their activity then He will act accordingly.
If He relents because they chose correctly did he know the outcome beforehand?
Yes. So we have a perspective and He has one as well. We experience things as theyb happen. He being independent of time knows all things. for example , Jesus was referred to as the Lamb slain since before the foundations of the world.
Could Jesus have done other than He did at the moment of ,Father let this cup pass but never-the-less your will be done.No. Did that mean He didn't experience the reality of suffering and all that He experienced as a man?Again, no.
So it really boils done to does God know all things .Yes. Unless he chooses to forget something. Like when He chooses not not remeber someone's individual sins any longer.Did He choose to do that from eternity? I would say probably.
Ofcourse He does. If you doubt, you can ask Him yourself.
If anyone ever provides evidence that the supernatural exists I'd think about it. So far it's just empty claims and old stories. Really grim, petty, and cruel stories.
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God all knowing because god has a device which can see any moment of time at god request and god can also interact with that moment of time. My opinion. The device god has is a crystal clear ball where god can see eveytink.
If you look through human history , are we really that special.
I'm in unknown paradise....now...and now philosophers are trying to teach me ....GOD. ....😣
Hello Mr. Robert - You are really fantastic in bringing out the new angles to truth while trying to entertain your curious mind. I would like to just give you a suggestion as why don't you meet several ardent Hindu believers of God in India such as Sadhguru(worldwide famous nowadays...) and others ....there are also quite a few of intellectual spirituals in India to speak to ...I would suggest to give it a try , may be you might find some answers for your truth or might be some different or new angle to look at truth or might end up with quenching your thirst for reality & truth
Agree with you totally. He should meet SadhGuru & a few more authentic Hindu Gurus & perhaps he may get better clarity. Thx. MeenaC
Several issues with the contributors:
🔹God heing unable to know the future. Not a truly perfect Being. It's actually the case that God could choose to not see certain possibilities in detail, in order to (1) not interfere iwth an individual's free will, and (2) to make His relationship with us more interesting.
(2) God only knows all true propositions. No, perfect knowledge includes all false propositions. He must know the true and false side of every situation to make the correct choices.
Anyone or anything that demand thanks and praise every waking hour i want no traffic with.
God doesn't expect anything of you
human cant stand unknown, some kind of god / imaginary friend is very useful and comforting
God said "let there be light" - so he don't know everything, there will not be light just said so.
We are no closer to the truth than we are to finding bigfoot
You're a defeatist, Doug. Unfortunate.
A freethinking realist and sometime skeptic
@@douglasparise3986 no problem with that. Robert Lawrence Kuhn is also a "freestyling realist and sometimes skeptic." So am I. But, at some point, skepticism, like philosophical investigation, must end, we must acknowledge we've found something useful, and maybe even true. That, as Robert says is, getting "Closer to Truth."
@@NaturalFuture the search will never end. The incredible mystery of existence....
Why would an omniscient god even bother to play the movie?
Tyrants have obtuse motivations.
@@johnsmith1474 I hope my motivations are not obtuse. I also wonder why god bothers to play the movie? Hey wait a minute... if God plays the movie, do we know what the movie is about?
@@johnbrzykcy3076 - You are muted.
@@johnsmith1474 Anthropomorphising God by calling it a tyrant with obtuse motivations, is a very weird theistic position to take.
@@Antediluvian137 - The ability to recognize sarcasm is associated with intelligence, a clumsy pedantic facade with the opposite.
I think Robert's difficulty in understanding God's omniscience stems from his notion that of future truth. To God the future is the same as the present. God is not limited by time like we are limited. There is therefore no problems whatsoever that God knows future truth because that future is unfolding right in front of God. The other thing Robert doesn't get it is that God knowing the future does not mean God is undermining human freewill. God knows what we are going to do but He didn't make us to it. It is still our decision when we do something. God doesn't force us or determine for us what we actually do although He gives us the intuition of what we ought or ought not to do. The omniscient God is the Judeo-Christian God, so if Robert wants to understand God's omniscience, he is better off reading the Bible and the writings of St. Augustine and Aquinas on this topic rather than listen to baseless speculations from theologians.
That last guy sure had a lot of assumptions built into his propositions...
Neo, you did not come here to make the choice. The choice had already been made. You came here to understand why..
If God knew everything, he would have known exactly what human beings would do when he gave them "free will". If God could do anything, he would have either given humans better character, or else would have declined to give them free will.
If God did not know everything, and could not do anything, he would have an Achilles heel, and would cease to be "God". Religious believers depend on that kind of mythology in order to get what they desire from religion, and to ensure obedience.
And i think we are too inteligent , so inteligent that we even create a god.
The image most people have of God is a symbol for the God principle. The image of a powerful man is more approachable than an all knowing, all seeing, invisible Star Trek like entity from another dimension.
God is real alright but nothing like most people have been taught to believe God to be. Just like mother nature isn't a woman with saggy boobs in a gauze dress and flowers in her hair. It is a principle but the imagine of a caring mother is approachable to humans and easy to teach children.
First, thank you, good stuff
Peter’s rebuttal against counter possible world, counter factual doesn’t seem to be consistent
Let’s assume I’m a convinced, saved Christian and I ask…”if I later disavow jesus as my savior will I not get into heaven”
According to his theory there is no “true” answer to that question.
If in the actual world I will remain a Christian and be received into heaven the counter factual, possible world is unknown to God
If it were known, that imploded his thesis that counter factual are not truth bearers
I have seen all of this episodes..my only clnclusion is that we are not closer to thruth.
This is just a lot of speculation that not leads to anything