Blade Runner 2049 | "Cells Interlinked" and Pale Fire (LITERALLY ME! INCELS INTERLINKED)
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from this point of view, the "literally me" feeling becomes cruelly ironic
The creators of the matrix sometimes have a sense of humor
It literally isn't about me (I am infact not Ryan Gosling) 😔
@@marlarki5280I am perhaps, only artistic and quite possibly regarded. (I wasn't a replicant)
this can't be...
What's interesting about K is how he is special. Not because of who he was born as, or made as, but the choices he makes. There is a point in the film where he realizes that he is not the chosen one. But, he makes the choice to stay involved in the story. To be a hero. Through his choices an everyman becomes a special man.
Special K
I love that moment when everything is done and he is happy with his choices. He didn't care that he was leaving, he was happy with the hero's mission and his free choices. Conscious.
@Han Solo He was human at last, he didnt let both parties dictate his decision, he didnt kill Deckard, nor did he let Wallace go near Ana, he just wants to finally reunite a father and a daughter.
@@starwarsroo2448
K is more special than most people know. But that's a whole separate topic.
@@ianashmore9910 the point of the film is in a way, he isn't, in terms of plot and being the child, but it Is still his story and he proves his worth as a real man by acting selflessly toward Deckard a man he never knew
It's interesting that Joi, that person who convinces K that he is the main character, the chosen one, the messiah, is then shown to be marketed as "everything you want to see; everything you want to hear"
It implies that the evidence he takes to show himself as the chosen one comes from his lens determined by what he *wanted from the start* - we are shown this nearly from the beginning and it's another link to pale fire
Yes, and it proves he is a conscious being, to wish for such a thing.
From the opening few lines of Nabokov's books you're sucked in. His writing is beautiful. Nabokov certainly was a genius--made even more apparent when you realize he was writing--not his first language (Russian) or even his second (French)--in his third language (English).
Much like Joseph Conrad…
He could speak English before he could Russian however. His English is not that of a native anyway, you can tell. But his exotic diction is what makes him good imo.
No
@@architchaudhary1285I'm not sure that ge speak English better than Russian, he speaks Russian fluently, but has an accent in English
Lolita was the only true love story written in the XX century.
Finished this then expected a crazy view count, this deserves so much more love, hell of an analysis
Thank you
Your pieces are just miles ahead of any other video essay on this platform. Bravo, as always!
as are the people who watch and comment
100% agree. very strong work Fallopium Films
Ahahaha, the same:
"I now have seen this one YT video. And let me tell you, it is THE best YT video ever."
😂
Your followers seem like a perfect match
While I'm not the movie's biggest fan, I love the overall concept/arc of this compliant dude who feels empty, and without realizing it, is trying to inject importance/meaning into his life by mistaking himself as a kind of chosen one, then after the veil is lifted, he decides to just make his own choice of what he thinks should be done, even if it kills him
this scene was added late in filming. pale fire was recommended by gosling because he had used it for acting excercises
Intriguing, what’s your source for this?
I find this very hard to believe since the themes of the novel and the film are structurally, ahem, ‘interlinked’ to such a degree that an ad-hoc addition of a Nabokov passage seems unlikely. I read elsewhere that the screenwriter Hampton Fancher introduced it early on in the screenplay. Willing to be disproven.
when the fact that the white fountain was revealed to be a mountain and that what the man read was a typo feels somehow relates to K and the child, a simple mistake, same as when he was reading the dna lists and when finding two people with the same dna... only difference, one is male and the other is female, a M-ountain, and a F-ountain.
Bro went down a rabbit hole😭😭
What I love about the pale fire reference is how accessible it is to convey meaning without context. The test is checking his emotional reactions to words dealing with individuality, love, and death. The questions are asked with an accusatory tone, like he's being interrogated about his ability to experience love and individuality. The brilliance of both movies, but especially 2049 is that there are constant layers, threads, and levels of meaning with multiple valid interpretations of each, which demand to be constantly repermutated in viewers' minds. Much of it is accessible even without going to.outside resources, but by bringing blade runner to those works and bringing the works back to blade runner creates a very rich dialogue.
I searched within cells interlinked and found this amazing video essay. Identity. Something I struggle with and I now believe is why I was gravitated towards this great movie. I’ll definitely be reading Pale Fire now, fantastic work.
Watch Fight Club & Matrix
This comes so close but never "brings it home".
The question of reality here is similar to that of the spinning top at the end of Inception in that it doesn't matter if the top stops spinning. It doesn't matter that the memories are not K's. What matters is that he takes them to be and acts as though they are. This reifies him greater than any external confirmation.
It doesn't matter if it was a tall white fountain or a tall white mountain. What matters is that you take the experience of reading the poetry to be significant and put forth the effort to make the words mean something.
It's in the act of belief and the will to act on that belief the magic of consciousness 𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘨𝘦𝘴.
Why does this matter?
Remember the moment when his greatest love appears to him again post death, but as a commercial apparition, and calls him "Joe". All of what is built into the relationship is laid barren and any hope of "real" humanity is gone. In that moment, suicide makes sense to him. It's in this same moment that he decides to save Decker. He remembers that death for a good cause would make him human. This is where it matters, and where what could be a string of nonsense words at the potential end of a man's life by heart attack are granted their power.
Bravo
A beautiful comment after an amazing movie essay. Somehow you reminded me of "Der Himmel uber Berlin" (Wings of Desire) :
I don't know if there is destiny, but there is decision! Decide! We are the present now. Not just the whole town, the whole world is taking part in our decision.
Nailed it. The thing I would add is that the film itself makes a symbol out of it's own existence in relation to the source art of Blade Runner. Blade Runner/Deckard is the poem 'Pale Fire,' and 2049/K is the Kinbote commentary on the poem. In talkinga about what Blade Runner means to us, we reveal our own desires for what it means - i.e. what art reveals within those that witness it IS the art itself. It's a commentary on our relationship to art - taking something 'real' and using it as an identity - something the film does, and something we do as fans. THIS is how you make a meta movie :)
I also like that mystery of the first movie (sort of) is whether the main character, who thinks he is real, is actually fake. Then in the sequel the mystery is whether a man who thinks he is fake is actually real.
@@FallopiumFilms Yes! Beautifully put! Thanks for a terrific channel btw; one of my favorites in quite a while.
Although Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep had a rather clear meaning that Ridley Scott decimated and turned into a silly question about whether or not Deckard is a replicant, when the real question was “is Deckard, the man, truly alive?” Thats the metatext
@@FallopiumFilms and the comment I made above is about how frustrating that question is when thats not at all what the movie about, just what the increasingly muddled and confused director cuts were about
2049 is in many ways a social commentary on modern day loneliness
Blade runner 2049 is one of my favorite movies. Coincidentally, I bought a copy of pale fire a while ago, and have been meaning to read it - completely unaware of this connection to blade runner. I’m stopping your video 2 and a half minutes in, and forcing myself to finally read this book. Thanks for the inspiration!
Take my like, how insignificant it is, but moreso, take my eternal gratitude for taking the time to create this video to explain what many of us ponder, but are too afraid to ask or search for in depth. This film is beautiful (and the first one, too). The artistry is absolutely rich in these films.
Dude awesome video, thank you for making this. I watched it twice so far. I randomly get this scene stuck in my head every few months and have to rewatch it, which is how I found your video. I'm loving the analysis of how it relates to the story at large.
This makes all the "literally me" memes even funnier not gonna lie.
Wow - thank you so much for doing such a deep dive into this and producing such a brilliant explanation. You have really opened my eyes to how well-written Blade Runner 2049 is and how much thought went into it. You have given me a whole new appreciation of the movie. Thank you for using your (obviously very impressive) intellect to uncover the reason why this poem was chosen to test K/Joe. I never would have understood the profound nature of this film without your explanation. I am very impressed at your insights and very grateful to you for sharing them with us.
Definitely one of the more intriguing commentaries I've watching on BladeRunner 2049 to date. Thank you for your work on this!
Thank you for the comment
Yes I can see the book's relevance now. Wow. Profound.
Just want to say I used this video’s knowledge for my oral final exams on the topic of „why do authors reference other media in their own creations?”.
I passed with 97%, thanks for making it!!! Main reason I passed!!!
Omg you made a video about one of my favourite movies of all time! And you gave me so much insight into the movie that I didn't have before! Like I knew that the first bladerunner had a whole theme about eyes because they are "the window to the soul" and the movie basically asks if Replicants have souls.
But I never realized that BR2049 continued the theme and took it even further. Questioning what is real and what is replicated so to say. Just amazing. Thank you for this video, this is the exact type of passion project that youtube is missing and the type of video that makes me happy to be a subscriber!
Blade Runner 2049 is an absolute masterpiece. I am blown away every time I watch it. Thank you for a great video, the way you researched and constructed the video was fantastic. Subbed 👏
Thank you
HOOOOOoooooooly SHIT! Mind absolutely blown. I just watched BR2049 3 times in a row over the weekend; I've _never_ done that before with any movie. It's just that there's so much to take in with BR2049. It's a genuine feast for the senses, and I keep coming back for more, like an all-you-can-eat buffet.
Yet you, my friend, have _totally_ given me an insight to one of possibly several secret recipes this masterpiece employed to make it as immersive as it is. Thanks so much for this trip down a truly remarkable rabbit hole. Incredible.
It's amazing in theaters, you missed out on how massive everything is
@@teampyro911 haha believe me, I was first in line when it opened in the theaters lol
@@leftylimbo lol I stand corrected 👍
Thanks!, enjoyed the review , spot on, excellent, brilliant, thanks again
No no thank you!
Six-and-one-half years later, and I'm still discovering new things about this amazing film. Thank you for blowing my mind! 🤯
This absolutely blew my mind. Thanks for your work on this.
Glad you enjoyed it
I love this break down I wish you would make more! You cadence tone and reasoning was great and it didn’t just feel like I was watching some egotistical film student. Love this video helped me clear some speculations and unanswered reasoning thank you❤
Such an amazing analysis, you made me love this film even more !
This was crucial to me *actually appreciating* a film I already greatly enjoyed. Thank you.
Absolutely AWESOME video to accompany this absolutely AWESOME film! Thanks so much!!!
Most appreciative for this gem - thank you.
That was amazing. Thank you so much for putting this together
So do I get this right??? The film Blade Runner 2049 is a film that adapts the poem "Pale Fire" from a book with the title "Pale Fire" with that poem "Pale Fire" in it that adapts its name from a Shakespearean quote about the "Pale Fire" of the moon that adapts its light from the sun even? So it's a reflection about an adaption from a meta-reflection about a condition (life/death) reflected in an adaption from a reflection about a metaphor? 🤯
I think it is in part about the development of ego and how this leads us astray. K wants meaning and gravitates to the myth that he is chosen. Joi is his soundboard and inner voice talking to himself. It is interesting when K is scanning the DNA files, Joi moves between K's shoulders whispering in his ear that he is the first born of woman and special -- K's own ego talking to himself -- very much like the perennial saint and devil on shoulders whispering temptations in someone's ear. When K's ego and his will are crushed, he starts making very human decisions. While Blade Runner 2049 has Western philosophy and religion in it, watching it from a Buddhist lense is very interesting. Thoughts/memories are not real, not you, Buddhism says. K learns his memories are not his, and he starts tasting freedom from his illusion of grandeur.
Now here is a comment!
Such an excellent review and analysis with so much thought and effort put into it. I was shocked to see your subscribers number to be honest. I hope your channel gets the attention it deserves very soon :)
What a video man…props to you bro, seriously!!
I think I gained consciousness watching this video
Amazing, illuminating, fascinating.Thank you 🙏
I'm apparently in the minority here, but I've seen the film 4 times and I still don't see the version most people see in 2049 where most people see K as not being the protagonist that matters (aka the child born of a replicant). I still, to this day, am convinced that K is indeed one of the twins and those memories are real. The movie never explicitly says he isn't, it implies it through characters who cannot necessarily be trusted, and the key moments where it appears to confirm it, don't. For example, we never hear what Deckard's daughter says to K. I believe that K is truly one of the twins, and that the cover-up worked well enough that it has just about everyone else convinced. Meanwhile, those who know are still going with the cover to protect K. I'm also in the boat of not believing that K died at the end; as, once again, it is only implied. I think 2049 did a great job of following BR1's lead of being vague enough that both storylines are possible, and so does 2049 - seeds of doubt are planted with every potential confirmation, including that Deckard is a replicant "that is, IF you were designed". They're both brilliant, but I still am capable of only seeing MY version of the events and I still don't see the confirmation everyone else sees in 2049.
BR1 suggests Deckard may or may not be a replicant and clearly Rachael is a special replicant that Tyrel made more human than human. BR2049 never says K is human and neither am I... Based on that, I see K as either a human-hybrid (assuming Deckard is human) or a special replicant by birth (assuming Deckard is a replicant). However, in either case, to me, he is the twin brother and his sister is also a special replicant and neither were aware of it because of the cover-up. He also doesn't die at the end because he IS special and a replicant. You can look at Deckard surviving an irradiated land two ways: He's a replicant, or he's old and doesn't care because radiation takes a long time to show effect depending on the potency. That's all beyond the point; my point is that K really is a by-birth twin and doesn't die.
Seen this film like 7-8 times now and never thought of this. There really is no evidence that he is truly a replicant. Gotta rewatch
Omg i love blade runner 2049
K dies at the end of the film, that is undisputable. he is likely a replicant because he enters a highly eradicated area when meeting Deckard without consequence.
@@ZuckerbergsAi Radiation doesn't have an immediate effect. Show me where they show K dying at the end? I see a completely exhausted man taking a rest.
@@perioax6506 The way I see it, there are people TELLING him he isn't - like the underground rebel team - but I feel like how I watch the plot, they are on a mission to make him and everyone else believe he's a manufactured replicant to protect him. I see a coverup. Just like the daughter. Thing is that Deckard has never seen his daughter, which is why he makes the trip to see her. Both were separated and told lies their whole lives to keep them from finding out what they really were. As far as I can remember, they never expose to Deckard who his son was, so he just never knew...only K knew.
Well u have convinced me to read pail fire and rewatch the blade runner films great video glad I found it.
This is both a brilliant and entertaining analysis. I love Blade Runner and I love your take on 2049. Pale Fire is new to me but soon will be not. Thank you for that!
Truly, one of the greatest gifts one can bestow, is lending even more insight and appreciation to a much loved film
Loved the video! I’ve seen many video essays and such after watching this movie as it really leaves a lot of questions to answer
For my part it is this.
2049 is so good as I sat mesmerized I failed to even see Pale Fire in the movie. I was within myself with so many other thoughts.
It was only after I purchased it and watched again did I see it. Then, as now a flood of recognition did enter my mind. My large collection of Sci Fi did I seek. There a volume awaited. Amongst Rand, Donaldson and Asimov and Gibson.
Thank you for this connection.
2049 replaced Aliens as the best sequel ever and by far one of my all time favorites. Those who know...know.
😂😂😂 you absolute twonk
I think "K" realized that even though he isn't "the one", he still have the chance to be something bigger than himself: to be part of "it".
1. Yeah this isn't the original Blade Runner, but they hope Blade Runner 2049 to be a worthy sequel of it.
2. Yeah this isn't the original Blade Runner 2049, but you hope this UA-cam video to be a worthy commentary of it.
3. Yeah this isn't the original commentary of Blade Runner 2049, but I hope this comment to be a worthy conversation.
“Every man has two lives, and the second starts when he realizes he has just one” - Confucius
Memories are central to tradition and continuity. Memories build up everything that transcends the individual. Like the family. In essence we are all 'replicants' of our parents and we all desperately try to walk their footsteps.
Incredible analysis. Thank you.
You're a fantastic analysis, you find meanings that I just dont have the awareness to grab. Love your thoughts!
Nice. A reason to rewatch 2049 with a closer eye. Thanks.
I appreciate this breakdown a lot. Thing is I can’t get into poems, not really my thing, or my language, never been my creative language at all. but movies are my life, so its really fantastic for someone who’s so into poems to be able to sort of translate and draw those links with the movie and poem for those who haven’t read it.
This video deserves more views. Great work, man
Appreciate it
I remember watching a music video on UA-cam and one of the top comments went something like:
"When I was struggling with substance abuse I thought this song was about abusing drugs. After my attempt I thought this song was about thoughts. But after I started going to church I realized this song was actually about redemption."
a UA-cam comment about the UA-cam commentiness of other UA-cam comments that is also a UA-cam commenty UA-cam comment
Brilliant. I truly hope this is part 1 of 5 for Bladerunner 2049
Love the way you explained this book.
Fantastic video, instant sub ^^ Might have to read that book now; I’m super intrigued!
I saw the film for the first time a few days ago (as it came to Netflix recently), and was blown away by how immaculate it is. Stands far above all else, even Arrival astonishingly enough.
Thanks for this profound, insightful analysis. Remarkable work exploring these themes.
I am just learning what a “super chat” is. Im a fan lol. But hey, this is my first one and I thank you very much sir!! It means a lot that many are enjoying this. Now forgive me as I beg you to check out my other videos
My lover's eyes are nothing like the sun. Great video Eric! I guess I'll actually have to read Pale Fire. I opened the book after seeing 2049, but couldn't make much sense of it. Though it's been a while since the film came out, I'm glad you produced this commentary.
Happy New year man! What a way to kick off 2022!
I was wondering if you ever studied Franz Kafka, especially the novel "The Trial". The main character in this novel is Joseph K. In Blade Runner 2049, K's virtual girlfriend gives him a first name after saying to him that he is special. The first name is Joe. Joe K? Joseph K? There has to be a connection to that novel or Kafka himself.
Interesting connection. Thanks for pointing it out. I wouldn't say that I've studied Kafka, but I think I know enough to know this film, and many like it, are very Kafkaesque.
@@FallopiumFilms The Trial, German Der Prozess, novel by visionary German-language writer Franz Kafka, originally published posthumously in 1925. One of Kafka’s major works, and perhaps his most pessimistic, this surreal story of a young man who finds himself caught up in the mindless bureaucracy of the law has become synonymous with the anxieties and sense of alienation of the modern age and with an ordinary person’s struggle against an unreasoning and unreasonable authority. It is often considered to be an imaginative anticipation of totalitarianism.
I had wondered this too.
One detail I noticed was that Luv calls K a dog in some moments, and Kafka's The Trial ends with Joseph K being stabbed and saying: ''Like a dog!'' it was as if the shame of it should outlive him.
“There has to be a connection”
UM, DID WE WATCH THE SAME VIDEO? YOU ARE INSERTING & FORCING YOUR CONCLUSIONS ON THIS ART, CEASE.
Madmen attempting to steal meaning from stories... an interesting field of psychological study. It makes me wonder how much of myself is intrinsic, and how much is modeled from passages that inspired me. How much of ourselves is stolen? How much of _being_ is defined by theft in general? In a way we are all Pale Fire; Moon-people. But the Moon is no thief. Theft requires intent. The Moon merely reflects. A consequence of its composition. Perhaps, also, it is in the nature of _being_ to function as an imperfect mirror. Whose light is it, really, that we all reflect back and forth to each other? What do the qualities and characteristics that we individually favor say about us?
Im gonna plagiarize this entire comment
@@FallopiumFilms - You flatter me. Feel free, fellow dude.
Wonderfully thought-provoking comment
@@brentwilbur my friend did you write this? Its excellent.
@@wronghandright4795 - I did. Your compliment is generous. Thank you.
Excellent video, I'll be sure to read Pale Fire. The notion of how we hijack stories to reflect ourselves is fascinating
Blade Runner 2049 is a Masterpiece! Great Job on this video!
Totally did not get what the white fontain was about when watching the movie but still felt moved, and now that I have context I'm on the edge of tears... nice analysis !
this is beautiful you and another youtuber called "Moon" Blade Runner Tried To Warn You video are on the same point. Theres so much beauty and concept to this movie. Its something movie connisuars in the future would be looking at in classrooms when it becomes reality.
An excellent continuation of PKD's 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep'. I just recently purchased Dick's complete 'Exegesis' a while ago (written while he was incarcerated at a mental institution and referenced explicitly in 'Valis'), and these two books delve into what is human identity both generally in the minds of most and specifically Phillip K Dick himself.
Virtually all of Dick’s work explores that theme.
Wow! What an awesome insight into this film, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts, this was quite thought provoking and a great take on a lot of different aspects of the film!
This is mindblowing, thanks so much for this video
Thanks for the comment
Loved this. Thank you.
The most enjoyable analysis of this movie I've seen to date, very informative👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Gold! Revisiting a sweet movie + unexpected book-tip. Feels so rare with movies that inspire reading
Great analysis!!! Thank you!!!
Thank you for sharing. My love for this movie feels like it was so shallow after what you revealed.
What I like about your take, and the layers of memory/"reality" one on top of the other, is that this very video is an interpretation that you laid on top of the film. And you present it with some degree of certainly. I don't know if that was on purpose or not, and that's yet another layer.
Wow a video essay that isn’t hackneyed! Ty for this
This was fantastic!
Best analysis I've seen of this film. Wow.
I'm sure Novokov would be really happy that someone finally actually analyzed his work correctly instead of just soying and misunderstanding the point of Lolita
So much I never knew. I'd always figured that K's name was a reference to Kafka, particularly K from "The Castle" and Josef K from "The Trial".
It still could be. Also Josef K? Super interesting with K taking the name “Joe” later in the film
@@FallopiumFilms Wow, I didn't catch that. Like the solar panels stealing light from the sun, I'm not sure if "Joe" is intentional or a happy little coincidence.
Regardless, the film did seem Kafkaesque to me, K going through so much trouble and angst all for naught.
There are also bits that may arguably be stretches but could still be references:
>Josef K is 30 when the novel begins, 2049 takes place 30 years after the original.
>Josef K dies on his birthday, Ana is designing a birthday memory when K first meets her before forebodingly blowing out the candles.
>Both K and Josef K are stabbed and killed.
very clever video and keen insights. Glad you love this film as much as me. I never dove into that book though.
I AM reading this book now, thanks to you!
Enjoyed your analysis of both Nabokov, H. Fancher and M. Green’s works of Art.
That was awesome! Thank you
Brilliantly broken down and explained.
This film should be in the cinema permanently.
This is great, thanks!
My Tears in the Rain is all of the lost blade runner and movies from the 90s!
thank you so much. it was such a pretty analysis.
You're very welcome
Great analysis.
Great video. And I dont think the solar panel is necesseily a coincidence. Its all part of the art, whether intentional or not. Fantastic analysis.
I felt myself an idiot after your comment on the movie. I didn't pay much attention when I watched it, perhaps because I love the original so much I filled myself with certain doubt that no one could ever do anything to continue the story.
And, indeed, Denis didn't try to do that. He continued the discussion instead.
Thanks for sharing your reflections and research in such a good tasted manner. I'll see the movie again, and it'll be the first time.
I'm somehow glad that things sensible, intelligent and human still make their way through the massive entertainment industry, despite all odds, even if requiring such fine subtleties and evasive references. And I'm also glad that somehow the algorythm decided to show me your video. Despite all odds.
Kind words, friend
Great work.
amazing video. I really values your take on this topic. But you got me clearing MY throat every 5 seconds
brilliant! thank you!
Amazing analysis thank you for breaking this dowm
the great thing about this video is everything in this video applies to itself
Glass, they say , is actually neither a liquid-supercooled or otherwise-nor a solid. It is an amorphous solid-a state somewhere between those two states of matter.
It's actually just a crystalline solid and does not flow whatsoever.
@@RhodokTribesman it’s not crystalline, it’s amorphous, and it does flow, but much slower than was previously thought, so you’re half right.
I enjoyed your interpretation. The meaning of this phrase is open to interpretation in other ways because the author is skilful at writing in layers, but one possible interpretation is that it represents a complex network of relationships, ideas, or systems that are all connected and dependent on each other.
This idea of interconnectivity can be seen as a metaphor for the way that different elements of a system, such as cells in a body or ideas in a thought process, are all connected and work together to form a larger, more intricate system. The repetition of "within cells interlinked" emphasizes this interconnectivity, suggesting that it is a fundamental aspect of the system being described.
In the context of "Pale Fire," the phrase might be seen as a commentary on the interconnected nature of reality, the relationships between different elements of the natural world, or even the interrelatedness of different aspects of human experience, such as memory, imagination, and reality.
Really well done!