**CORRECTION IN THE JETER CASE*** Kelsey was the girl who passed away. Kiersten tried to save her sister but.... 31:08- we will just ignore whatever word I made up...
I personally wont have children. And that's because I don't care for kids, I don't have any interest and definitely don't think I could give them the love they deserve. I wouldn't take care of a kid. I wish all people thought about it before they had kids
Chai'el Ma'etheius I don't think that's right. Mental illnesses are real and while pills and other meds don't always work, they're better than no treatment. Conspiracy theories like the one you decided to add to this conversation aren't helping anyone. Conspiracy theories, in fact, are making everything worse and adding to the stigma that comes with mental illness. I know you probably think that you're helping and that you know some secrets, but you're really not.
What I found so disturbing was her calmness and coldness, she should have got the death penalty for what she did to her two daughters in that abandoned house, that was pre meditated, she is not like Otty who was mentally ill
Awesome remix. I did see all of your previous work and it was good work, but the remix does give it more depth of perception. Carry on dude! Can not wait for more.
@@chellyw63 yes! My stomach turned every time she spoke to her surviving daughter "what baby?"... Like, you just killed her sister and stabbed her multiple times, now you're talking to her like nothing is wrong? Just so twisted. I agree, she just wanted to hurt people, death penalty is it for me.
My prayers go out to Audi. Who’s got the mental issues going on but what’s really disturbing is how her sister and mother were so quick to give that baby back knowing that his mother was trying to find help. I would say the fault would be theirs as well because they didn’t help her to find the help that she needed, and the thought of them releasing the baby back to her knowing she’s going through that puts them liable and responsible for these babies death. Knowing how unstable OTTY was they handed him back to her that’s definitely something they gotta live with and then as she finally calm down listen to it the sister says her as if nothing happened. I don’t know somethings fishy about that nonetheless rest in peace to the baby, and I hope that this experience will get many more mental patients to help that they need.
People don't care. Society is in decline as there are no morals left. No sense of duty or responsibility. Everybody things as long as they are oj . They don't care about anyone else
living with a family member who is deranged for all her life/years, you only get that cautious the first few years... Because if she survived all those years it means she's okay... right? We know it's only one push away and she can snap but we don't know whether it will be tonight or tomorrow... so it's okay to have her hold her baby right? as someone who experienced living in such a home I kinda understand the situation.
Exactly. She was bringing the baby to her sister knowing she's a danger to her own child, and the sister thought it's okay because she's calmed down? Poor baby :(
You got to keep in mind, she asked to be admitted into a mental hospital, they denied her, and she tried to give her sister the baby to protect him, yet he was returned. The people involved werent that helpful.
Exactly and some of these comments are so closed-minded. It shows that these people don’t have any mental Illnesses & criticize the people who suffer from them.
The sister had experienced her episodes before and saw them being non violent, in her mind her sister just needed to hand the baby off for a bit while she got a hold of herself, after handing the baby back to the mother the episode resumed and the voices told her the sister was dead there by convincing her that she couldn't give the baby back. It's unclear how aware the sister was of what these episodes consisted of, she likely underestimated the severity of the situation, believing that her sister(the mother) would never hurt the baby because in her mind she could never hurt anyone, the sister isn't to blame, sometimes it's just harder to see the full picture when you're that close to things.
@nexialist sometimes there is not enough room in the hospital and patients lie about the severity of their illness. She probably was referred to another facility and never went. Hospitals dont just turn people away on a whim they have a whole protocol. Yall are quick to attack the ones actually doing something while yall arent helping anyone at all ever.
Most definitely. Not all people should have children, which is why it annoys me when people try to push others to have them when informed that that person doesn't want to have children.
I knew Otty. We went to highschool together (Freshman/Sophomore year). She was the sweetest, nicest girl i knew. The medical system and her family failed her. She never received the help she so desperately needed. She knew she was ill. No one believed her. Rest in peace, Baby Scott. I hope Otty is getting the help she needs in whatever institution she is in.
I don't think she asked enough questions to get information. Move on to the next ask about the children..she just stopped after the name...could have done a bit better in my opinion.
@@hungrymothergoose well the mother wasn't giving much to work with, giving very vague directions and not a lot of info about herself or what was going on with the daughters, plus telling them to fucking get there like they were the ones who hurt her kids and not her.
the little twelve year old girl who jumped over her sister to save her life is the f**king bravest person ive ever heard of. That little girl deserves the world, rest in peace little angel, ive never met you but you have a special place in my heart, right next to your sister, love.
Everyone failed otty. Her sister for giving the child back,the mental health system for rejecting her cry for help and sending her home when she begged them to keep her,and most of all America for making people have to pay for vital medication. Everyone should feel ashamed and now a child is dead and the woman that was failed so many times has to live with what she's done.
I believe it, I went to a free clinic I told them I was having anxiety really bad they said I would have to wait months for an appointment and that they probably wouldn't give me any medication. Good thing I wasnt suicidal. I just can't imagine if a person who was asked for help at the same clinic and got that answer.
@@oliviawright8756 eh, just you. I'm diagnosed with severe depression and attempted suicide multiple times, the last time I did a couple years ago some healthcare workers showed up at the hospital to speak to me and they filled out paperwork so I can get free health insurance that I still have today. I don't have to pay for anything.
@@shyryTsr2k I think it is hit it miss in getting help. Sadly, I have found that people can be quite miserly when it comes to giving it information that can help you, especially if "it isn't their job". I suffer from depression and anxiety as well. I have other disabilities too, and fortunately over the years have found help. I'm glad you found help too. It is an ongoing thing isn't it. At least we are finding our way through. God Bless you.🤗
The lady requested help, told she was going to kill the kid and professionals sent her home with the baby anyway the day before. The system failed her and that baby.
@@monicabolden8663 I think you are referring to the first story, these comments are about the call with the mother of the two girls and when the surviving daughter says something in the background she asks "what baby?" In a nonchalant way like she was just going on about a normal day and the kid had asked her something or said something and she didn't hear her. It was eerily calm.
The mother in the second call doesn’t DESERVE to call her child “baby” Edit: everyone replying to me keeps thinking I’m talking about the first call, I’m talking about the second one. The one where the mother killed both her children in an abandoned house. Please reread before replying.
I've always had mental health issues. My mother and I made a pact early on in my first pregnancy. If I felt or thought I'd hurt my baby, call her immediately, and she would come get him until I could get help. I had postpartum depression with my first. She was 45 minutes away and made it there in 20. Thank you Mom.
I was also wondering the same. Are you and your children fine now? And God bless your amazing Mother! I myself have been struggling with anxiety as long as I can remember. I was diagnosed with anxiety and depressions in my early 20s. Later I was diagnosed with ADD. This is a major reason as to why I have no children. I didn't want to pass that on to innocent children.
I’m so glad your mom could help! My postpartum depression was pretty bad, I told my mom I needed help and wanted her to watch him while I went the docs to see if I could get some treatment options and she told me I was selfish and didn’t care about my kid, then she tried to put him up for adoption. I got on meds and left the house and I’ve been fine since. I had friends help me so I wasn’t alone with my kid during that time either just because I had heard so many horror stories of PPD moms hurting their kids.
You see, that is how a mom is supposed to act. If our kids are 60 and they call us in need, we are there to help them. Parenting isn’t for 18 years, it’s a lifelong endeavor, and I’m grateful for that. Trust me, if my boys stayed living with me until they were 21 or whatever, as long as they worked and saved or got educated, I would have loved it. But they wanted to be grown ups and that was that.
@@GBR-cj6fj it's okay, there's humor in everything, they simply laughed at that little exchange taken out of context, I'm sure they still respect what's actually going on in the vid
Actually he did a correction and the one who tried to save her sister was the one that lived. She was unable to save her sister. Poor girl. I was surprised to hear that she willing went to visit her mom after her sentencing.
@@bliviously5484 I’m sure she had some horrific survivors guilt. I have an older sister and I couldn’t imagine how I’d feel if we were in a situation where she died and I lived. I’m sure she had guilt for a very long time, but I hope that she has been able to overcome that guilt, because NONE of it was her fault.
The way Debra spoke about killing her children and then how she called her half-dead daughter “baby” and said “hold on they’re coming” like she didn’t just try to kill her confuses tf out of me
That is incredibly sad. She asked and begged everyone for help. Even handed her baby to her sister and TOLD her she was seeing things and the babies face was changing. Damn man.
@@UmatsuObossa the thing is when you’re like this you don’t really have a sense of what’s right or wrong, you’re not aware you’re doing anything bad until it’s over, so it’s not that she “listened” to the voices she just wasn’t aware *in the moment* that it was a bad thing bc it felt real and like it was what she was suppose to be doing. i hope this make sense :)
@@ginnybean838 Still...yes and no. I was on nitrous oxide for a dentist appt once, and I was definitely experiencing delusions, I felt like I had been in the dentist chair since the dawn of time and world be forever into the future as well, but even though I felt that way, I still also knew that wasn't actually right. Also in a fit of depression once I took a shitton of benedryl and was definitely getting weird delusions from that. I was talking to a friend and telling him I didn't know if I was even actually talking to him, or if what I was saying was gibberish or not. But when I sobered up, everything I'd thought I'd said, I'd actually said, and I'd never behaved irrationally the entire time. It could be something with my brain, maybe I'm extraordinarily grounded in reality or something. Everything I've ever done that has made others supposedly lose control of themselves, I never came close.
@@UmatsuObossa The thing is, when you’re being hounded by voices, when reality begins to change, your brain, especially when it is purely your brain that is doing this to you. When she was in her psychosis, she has no sense of anything but what her brain is doing to her- believing she has a demon/needs to get the demon out. It is clear that her psychosis took over and won, she was no longer herself and she’ll forever have to live with knowing she did it, even though it wasn’t entirely her fault.
@@UmatsuObossa Though we get where your coming from, but that was a one time thing for you. Otty was experiencing it constantly and she tried to get help for it but she couldn’t pay for it. Please be mindful and don’t compare your experiences to something so big when yours is so small. Your sane. She is not. Otty took drugs constantly, you took them for whatever reasons you needed them for.
@Madison Daily yes because she was very mentally ill and suffering, she needed very serious medical attention, and it just seemed like she did not get that. “poor otty” doesn’t mean forget the baby. the baby deserved to live and not get tortured and killed. it’s all more than f-ed up.
@Madison Daily because she was severely ill in a way that impacted her thinking and behaviour...acknowledging that she couldn’t help it doesn’t mean saying it was an ok thing to do.
that first one made me cry, especially considering that she told the doctors that she was hearing voices telling her to hurt her baby and that he babies face was shifting. Like she told them to admit her and they just sent her to live with her sister and the baby. If someone who has past problems with voices like that tells you their hearing voices and are scared they'll hurt their child, don't send them home with the child
@@nocturnaljoe9543 I mean the police get the body they have to clean the blood tho so if they imagine it’s paint hopefully it’s less painful and traumatising
My heart absolutely breaks for Otty. She did everything she could to get help and the doctors told her no, she didn’t need to be put on the unit, then her sister gave her back the baby even though she’d given Scotty to her several times and they all knew she was hearing voices and having hallucinations. Everyone who was supposed to help her failed, that just breaks my heart. You can only do so much to help yourself when you are so severely ill and your support system isn’t listening.
I agree with you 100%!! Just the fact alone that she ate the baby tells us, mental illness is at play here. Then you add all the people who failed her when she was trying to get her mind well again and it becomes something entirely different than other premeditated murders.
Exactly. Alot of ppl with mental illness never get the help they truly need. She wanted the help, she knew she was getting bad off but noone took her serious. I feel for her. Its so sad about her baby. If they would’ve listened to her then scotty may still be alive.
@@trickortrump3292 her saying she was gagging but the voices kept telling her to eat it breaks my heart. She was so sick and tried so hard to get help. I feel like guilt will eat her alive in her sane moments
The fact that the sister gave the baby back to her mentally disturbed sister who had already said she was afraid she would hurt the baby and was hearing voices "after she calmed down" is just mind boggling. Poor Otty and poor baby. Such a horrific tragedy that never should have happened.
@@jasoncaldwell0613nobody’s saying it is, but if someone’s telling you they’re gonna hurt their baby cause of the voices in their head and is practically begging u to take the baby from them why on earth would you give it back to them?? she knew that otty had struggled w mental health issues too?? like this could’ve been avoided
@@jasoncaldwell0613It quite literally was her job. otty was put in the care of her sister, it was absolutely her sisters job to make sure she was going to be okay.
@@mwag8403 Please stop abusing the word: literally. From the sound of her sister, she was likely not competent to assume this responsibility. Unless you know otherwise and I doubt you do, her sister did not become her legal guardian. Please except the reality, that some people are not curable, and NEVER will be. Both the mother and the sister were too stupid to make the correct choice: tell CPS about her history, decline involvement and insist that the baby be adopted, immediately. That would have been both intelligent and responsible.
@@brooklynsizemore2372 the one that tried to save her sister lived?? I couldn’t tell from the video I just assumed the one that passed was the one that jumped in top. God I feel like I am forever scarred for watching this video because I can’t stop thinking about this. Can’t imagine how the survivor and her relatives feel. Truly evil.
@how to respond It was so scary the fact that I'm so scared she might attack the other one if she got the so pissed about it.. the way she speaks like.. it wasn't her children at all
this is so sad. she really tried to tell EVERYONE that she was going to hurt herself or somebody else, and what was working for her was something she couldn’t afford. my heart breaks for everyone involved.
Sadly that was the real Deborah answering her daughter in distress, o grew up with a mom with multiple personality disorder, her other personality won, took over, my mother took off with my youngest sister leaving my family. I went to live with my mom around 16, well watching her go from personality from personality was devastating..
Right! That was so whicked! And calling the kid baby while she says she cant help her? Im assumming she came to her senses somehow before finishing off the second child. Im a bit surprised the surviving daughter was given time to chat w her mother who tried murdering her, but maybe it gave the girl closure. I know love is bigger than most things someone can do thats bad, but damn...
she did that for a reason she had to keep it cool because she doesn’t know what debra was capable of. Trying to make her seem “safe” but really it was so she could calm down and the police can get her
The woman who found the abandoned baby in the trash showed a billion times more concern and love for that baby that wasn’t even hers than that monster Debra showed for her children ...
Ghosts, Satans and demons are everywhere. They will take advantage on weak ppl if they had a chance. Depression ppl have weak souls so dont ignore them. Suiciders are also get disturbed by Satans. When they hear things means their condition are getting worse. Dont ignore them until they have to kill somebody and Then you panick. These kinds of ppl need to be treated. If they ignored, their condition can be worsen. Their body need to be 'cleanse'. I know this because im a Muslim. Alhamdulillah 😇
Asian Female Ghosts? Satans? Demons I understand but there’s only one Satan, and ghosts aren’t evil they can be but they’re people that haven’t passed on to the afterlife.
Yeah listening to that part was like a breathe of fresh air after hearing about Debra's horrible killing. It's like I almost lost touch of the good people in the world. Its scary how people go insane and do things like this to other innocent people. Just imagining myself being a physco makes me feel disgusting
The fact it took so long to locate the house is my worst fear come true. Our house is located on a small backstreet off of the main street. There are only 4 houses back here and despite having a sign up saying our addresses are around the back routinely every delivery driver cannot find it and it takes 10 minutes and often walking out onto the main street to get them to find us. We had an emergency last year (it was much milder than we thought and my family member was fine thankfully) and luckily a neighbour heard the commotion and went out to signal the ambulance. But im terrified of one day something worse happening and no one being there to help them find us. I always tried to comfort myself thinking that emergency services would pay more attention to street signs than a delivery driver but hearing this series has reminded me how human these people are and mistakes are still possible to make especially in the dark when that sign isnt as visible
That's what happened to me once. I had very high pulse, and feared i would faint and called emergency services. Our House was the only one in the street, somewhere between two villages. We got the number 21, and all the other houses with the same street name were actually on an road opposite to us. I saw the emergency drive up and down the road in the distance while trying to remain calm while trying to describe the location of our house to them.
Yes. This could've been completely avoided if the healthcare system was better. I'm so sorry for everyone involved, I hope they all get the help they need.
she spoke of them as objects.. " one is dead dead but the other one is alive and wants to be saved." THOSE ARE YOUR CHILDREN HOW COULD YOU!!!! omggg i'm so angryyyyyyyyy
Me too dude it makes me so sad and hate humans even more but yet I can't stop myself from listening. How does a mother/Friend/Lover even do this hanus crimes against their loved ones. Makes me sick to the stomach
I fall down these holes of listening to this stuff, worryingly often 😅 I guess it's the side of me drawn to morbid stuff like everyone else like ya know conspiracy theories a campfire tales. I think it is important to monitor your mental health through these though, that's absolutely vital-- people can be absolutely horrifying for sure.
The way these people are speaking so clearly on these 911 calls stating they just killed is so scary...its terrifying to know that human beings can do such evil even animals couldnt do this.
Julio Rodriguez/ She said it in the most MONOTONE voice ever. Her statement afterwards proves how cold it is when she says something like "Get here quick one of them wants to live". It just makes the "I killed my children", as her first statement macabre
@@karenwhinesmore9347 not excusing her actions but trying to stop bleeding right after a serious psychotic episode due to severe stress or illusions (we have no clue what she was undergoing) would be quite hard. Not only is it hard for people in the medical field to do it under stress, but for your every day person to do it seems highly unlikely. And like medical professionals advise, you should call 911 and let the professionals who actually know what their doing deal with it. if she or any of us tried without any clue, we could likely injure said person even more. Again though, not excusing her actions
I know Otty Sanchez as a friend and coworker. I do know she and her family repeatedly asked for help, made numerous trips to doctors and ERs. All in vain. To listen to people on a daily basis state that she should be killed, dragged in the streets, set on fire in the street and so on took a toll on all of us who knew her. She is in the state mental hospital and will not be released. Only her family can visit. She has to live with this. I know for a fact she loved Stephen with all her heart and would never under any normal circumstance EVER hurt him. She would have died to protect him. The health care system and doctors let her down at every turn. Thank you for realizing the truth.
@@Tsiri09 Yeah, she was telling them "I need to go to the mental hospital" But they didn't listen.. and when she couldn't afford the prescription, they should have tried to help her the best they could by paying for it or something.
@Florian shes giving them minimal info, wtf you mean incompetence? They saved the child's life. I'd like to see how you react to that sort of situation.
The sister failed her nephew the fact she gave the baby back to her mental sister shows a lot. The sister didn’t want to be bothered all of them are to blame
Actually, the elder daughter tried to save her little sister but wasn't able to. The one who survived was the one who tried to save the other one. The whole 911 call was unbearable :(
The woman who murdered her own children is a monster. She was so calm and talked to her daughter who was dying as if nothing happened. It makes me nauseous to think that she did that with seemingly no remorse
you can hear reality slowly set in and she gets desperate to have her helped. sucks that these crazy people end up regretting their actions so soon after but not soon enough to prevent it.
@Baby Nunu the first one was mentally ill and it really wasn't her fault. She had repeatedly asked for help from her family and from the doctors. The second one wasn't mentally ill. She was just a spiteful bitch who took her anger out on her poor daughters.
@@shreyamishra6310 no she had some psychiatric problems too... did you not see the part where she was suicidal? I mean yeah still, no excuse, and she prbly still wanted revenge. Just be aware tho
The first women should have never been allowed to take her baby home with her with that kind of severe mental illness. I can only imagine how regretful the sister is over sending the baby back to her bed that night. The second mother deserves the death penalty she planned this out to give her daughters a “surprise” just plan evil. Her being suicidal has nothing to do with her evil actions that day she said repeatedly she didn’t want to die please tell cops not to shot me...wow just wow!
Im pissed off at the sister, otty clearly didn't want her son next to her, yet they still forced her to look after him. They could of saved the baby yet they still gave him back to her
Just wanted to say I’m the 100th like completely agree that baby shouldn’t have gone back with otty at all the second one just makes me sick she doesn’t deserve a life the police shouldn’t have shown mercy they should have just shot
@@louisephillips5429 yea i get what ur saying but she probably didnt think she would kill her baby the baby was a newborn so thats probably why they tried to make her take the baby because a baby needs its mother especially a newborn
@@lewissabre um, what country do you live in? In America the police do not dispense justice nor ever plan to shoot anyone. It doesnt matter what was done. They are simply there to bring a suspect to custody. They arent even allowed to shoot you for running away if youre not armed. The only time they are supposed to shoot is *if you raise a gun*. So her request is as ignorant as your response. Justice is dispensed via the courts in the US.
Debra was very demanding considering what she just did to her daughters. It would be difficult for her to claim insanity considering how calm & collected she was.
How comes no one talking about how the older sister gave her life to the younger? I love my younger sister so much I couldn't bare losing her. It's so sad. How she must have felt losing her sister.
@@jusspost3229 Maybe to someone who dont care about anyone but themselves. ive heard alot of things in my life but never been told i was dumb for protecting my family n children 😂
@@dantebryian6104 it’s just weird cuz you sayin how you a father and shit but you would be so quick to jump in front of another...pretty stupid but whatever now go somewhere
That girl in the beginning is just so sad and sick. The woman was truly truly sick in her head and the hospital should have checked her in when she requested. She tried to save the baby and herself.
Yeah it was both of them the hospital majorly failed her. She requested to be checked in saying her babies face was changing. Why would you not check someone in if they say that?
Or "my chimpanzee ripped my girlfriend's face off and ripped her apart." I mean how do you not even REMOTELY question that or reply SHOCKED even for a millisecond! HOW DO YOU PREPARE FOR A CALL LIKE THAT?!
@@nevoodles8210 she gave her baby to her sister because she was seeing things and that her baby's face was changing, and her sister literally just handed the baby back to her saying her that everything was okay and then the family went to sleep like nothing happened. her family ABSOLUTELY failed her.
I thought the title was like not true because youtubers do that often and now I- jdnskabg I’m traumatized.. How could she eat part of her baby I can’t even imagine
@@sasakimirai4318 what if you were taking care of a mentally Unstable person and their baby. This was a thing she would always do, she would get the baby when otty wasn’t feeling right but when otty calmed down she would get the baby back. On top of that Otty killed her baby, it wasn’t the sister or anyone else. Yes, she was not doing well mentally but she did kill her baby. Blaming anyone else for her actions doesn’t do anything.
That dispatcher on the second scene needs a hero award. She was so amazing talking to a evil person the way she did to defuse the situation. How could you kill your children.
“Don’t shoot me because I don’t have a gun” she literally just stabbed both your daughters. What a narcissist all she cares about is herself. Disgusting how calm she is in the call
If that was my mom I would have wanted her to be sentenced to death~ but that’s my opinion- it’s cause she killed one her kids then tried to kill the second one horrible just HORRIBLE!🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬
I know that feeling. It destroys your self esteem in a way that is hard to fight back against. When your mom doesn't care if you die, you don't either. You kinda of give up and it takes a lot to get back
I can't even imagine the horrror bc the parent trying to kill them wasn't even the worst part. The worst part was that girl who survived, jumped on top of her sisters body to sheild her from the attack. But she still died. Meaning not only did she have to endure the attack, she had to watch her mother repeatedly stab them both and then watch her sister showly die right before her eyes. I would've just offed myself if I was the sister who survived. I would never be able to get over seeing that.
That poor lady on the phone trying to be quiet, hearing her ex unalive her was heartbreaking..I'll never understand how people do things like that verses moving on, and finding someone new..and the poor baby's, so heartbreaking..
23:57 it's sad to see that this still happens. My best friend was found in the trash, umbilical cord still attached and everything. Except his birth mother put him in a trash sack and set the trash sack on fire. He still has the scars, but he now has a good husband and now is actually trying to adopt a baby girl that they saved and found in a car. There are so many options for people, they can drop their baby off anonymously at a firehouse, hospital, QT, school, libraries, even just knocking on someone's house and running off! So many options but people still chose the worst ones. Edit: they got their daughter! Her name is Hope
Carli The Great that is so sweet! Its really sad people just throw away babies but I’m glad to hear they adopted that little girl and Hope is such a fitting name! ♥️
You can toggle the 'subtitles' button on a youtube video (one of the tiny buttons on the right lower corner of the vid) and it will let you watch all videos with subtitles
@@boredweegie553 sometimes the subtitles have a mind of their own and start saying words that sound similar to what's said. Its always cool having nicely edited subtitles to read along with like this dude incorportates.
There are quite a few videos that say, "Captions not available.", when you hit the captions button, actually. Even if they are available they are usually far from correct as they use some automated system that goes off of audio. A lot of the time they aren't even readable. I can hear fine, fortunately, but use them because of audio processing abilities. They would be laughably bad if I didn't know they were so essential for so many people.
That dispatcher talking to Debra deserves some damn recognition for not going there herself and ripping that thing to shreds. She did such a great job.
I can’t believe Debra was still talking to her children like normal calling them baby and just talking to them like she didn’t just attack them. Absolutely crazy
@@keahjahwalker696 yeah which is why we need more recourses, this girl literally was denied help and she killed her baby + eats it and couldve put more people in danger. i truly hope she got the help she needs and medications.
@@Ohwowokaythanks oh yeah I understand Otty, I’m talking about Debra. I just feel like mental health played apart in her case but I do believe she did it out of evilness(2nd caller)
I hate to say it but if there was no help I'd have not let her be alone with the baby ever, like doors would lock and I'd be constantly seeking anywhere she could go for long term care. It's just sad and why more people need educated on mental health and how it needs to have better access points for people who say I need help
Jill Seufert unfortunately where I live people who are in psychosis or are facing other psychological problems often get off their prescribed meds after getting out of a hospital/ward. They also can go in voluntarily which means they can sign themselves out and can get someone who doesn’t even know anything about why they’re in there to sign them out. There’s no follow up if the “crazy” person doesn’t want it which is so wrong because when they’re in a certain headspace they may not know what’s best for them. We need stricter rules to help people in need.
Honestly, this probably wasn't a lie. The mother in this case was highly delusional and extremely depressed with a mix of a few other issues I'm sure. In the moment she thought her kids were suffering from her divorce so in the heat of the moment she was acting on what she assumed was the solution to all of their problems. After she acted that out her head probably cleared and she did want what was best for her kids. This is why mental health shouldn't be taken as a joke. People with bi polar, depression, anxiety, psychotic and a lot of other issues can easily fall into a delusional state and do things they normally wouldn't do. The mother is to be blamed for what she did, however, the real culprits are the court and judge who deemed her okay to see her kids and the mental facility that deemed the same.
I have an ex partner with whom I have children and my partner has 5 children and I love them as much as my own and we, as adults, all get along brilliantly it makes life easier for the children but we do genuinely like each other.
I felt the same way. The first case was genuine psychosis. Debra knew exactly what she was doing. At any point between planning this, picking up her daughters, driving to the location, walking them inside, pulling a knife on them...she could have stopped at any time and actively chose not to. And her "I wanted to take away all our pain together" BS was such an obvious pity ploy. She wanted to hurt her husband for leaving her, and she had no problem taking innocent lives to do it. Awful human being.
Woman who has an extensive history of psychosis as well as suicidal and homicidal thoughts: Please admit me to the hospital. I am hearing voices telling me to kill my son, and he's not safe with me. Hospital: lol no you're fine Woman: Sister, please take my child. I am hearing voices telling me to kill him, and he's not safe with me. Sister: lol no you're fine Woman: *kills child* Everyone: OMG how could she?? No one saw this coming how did this happen? Why didn't she just reach out??? As someone who struggles with hallucinations and delusions as part of my mental health disorder this shit pisses me off so badly. Literally the first and last thing they teach you in any kind of mental health treatment is to reach out for help if you need it. How are people supposed to get help if it will fall on deaf ears? Of course the child is a victim and was severely wronged but in this situation the mother is just as much a victim. Not only does she have schizophrenia to deal with, but now she has to live with what she's done on top of a manslaughter charge when the situation could have been avoided so easily.
Ikr. Im kinda pissed to the sister, she should took the baby away and not let otty come back to the baby again. Otty said herself, and they clearly knows she is mentally unstable. I feel sorry to otty and the baby :(
As someone with psychosis, I agree. Sometimes illnesses like this are heavily influenced by our emotions. Turning that mother away constantly when she was begging for help, was a dick move. It's the same thing with suicidal people. Others ignore their cries for help, but once they take their life, then everyone makes a surprised pikachu face because they "didn't know what happened".
Frfr she was acting as if she was telling her children to hurry up when packing up or sum shit, like you just murdered one of your daughters, the one whom you gave birth to how tf can you talk so casually??
@@Cvollo yea but they didn't ask if her friend was ALIVE, they asked if her friend was "ok", like wtf do you mean of course she's not ok half of her face is being ripped off..
@@ashleyomweno2814 I think she was insane and couldn’t fully process what she had done whilst knowing what she’s done if you know what I mean but still it’s sick that this happens to people it’s so heartbreaking
@@ameliagundry6091 i think insane people and possessed people should be under surveillance not roaming in society because they are dangerous. It’s like living in a jungle of animals and there is no limits of cruelty and killing. Society is for sane people not insane
Right?? I can't imagine it happening often when a potential victim is calling 911, gets murdered during the call and then the murderer finishing the call.
That first woman begged for help and was denied, as sad as this is she was a victim too. Normally I wouldn't have sympathy for someone that hurt a child, but I can't help it in this case. 😢😢😢
The second dispatcher is so good. The way the woman talks to her, saying "bitch" and other things, and the dispatcher immediately understands the case, is surprising. I would have said something like "try not killing your children first" when she started telling them to hurry up
@@heathermcduffee7058 but, people who do it because they can, that can’t really by prevented. However people who kill with a mental illness, that CAN be prevented.
Tell me abt it. I've been struggling with 5 mental disorders ever since I was 6. Life has never been easy. Especially since I've lived in an dysfunctional childhood and had to raise myself.
Even when treated “properly” they’re still a ticking time bomb with some of these severe psychological pieces of trash. Medicine can only do so much. And no one can force your to even take it. And she’s a grown woman i don’t think they could force her into a facility unless she was arrested during an episode smh
Every time that warning pops up about the content being “inappropriate for some people” I don’t think twice about watching but this video really got to me! From the moms killing their kids to the ex husband shooting his ex girlfriend. This video left me speechless.
The worst about being a 911 operator is not always knowing what happened to the person they helped after that phone call ends and just having to take a another phone call after that
@rose We sound insensitive at times because we become numb to our feelings, people don't understand that sometimes. Calls 911 dispatchers take would make other people go absolutely insane!! I know a dispatcher that took a call from a Sr citizen that had someone knocking at her backdoor that she didn't know. Unfortunately, and sad to say, he ended up killing her. There was mass confusion on the address so the cops got there too late. The dispatcher that took the call had a major breakdown NINE YEARS after it happened. She took a call from another Sr citizen that sounded like the lady that was killed and she totally lost it and had to retire. She said after it happened she became numb and it took her 9 years to get past it and start feeling again.
@rose I didn't read your comment, I was just responding to Kiera Fernandez and just olaborated a little more, but yes you can take credit for saying it first.....lol!!!
You know it would probably be a lot easier to work at like customer service or tech support I mean sure they probably come home in a bad mood because people called them and scream at them all day cuz nobody is going to call when everything's running smoothly but a 911 operator they have to live with that horrible shit that they here and then never going to know I'm sure most of them do look it up or they would probably go insane. People that work that kind of job for several years probably I need some heavy counseling after that. I mean bad 911 operator you could tell in her voice that she was upset by what she heard... I am glad they didn't charge the mother in the first phone call though because that was absolutely the fault of whatever doctor released her and refused to keep her at the psychiatric unit.
I did not like that dispatcher. She seemed to be rather flippant, and she kept calling this killer "Honey, sweetie", etc...that's not a good way to get someone to cooperate. IDK, she just seemed very unprofessional.
@Hudson Furtado I understand all that, the problem I had was that she didn't seem to be actually being kind. It came across to me as condescending and flippant. Where I'm from, calling someone you don't know "honey", "sweetie", etc. is considred condescending and rude.
Hudson Furtado I think she just meant that using “honey” and “sweetie” wasn’t a good idea. Lots of people find that condescending if it’s a stranger calling them that, meaning they’d be less inclined to listen.
@@needtopoonow308 EXACTLY! Thank you! I work in customer service, where kindness is the number 1 priority and one of the first things they teach new people is to NOT use terms of endearment like that.
The first lady Otty lived 3 houses down from my uncles house here in s.a tx, and I remember the cops who arrived said it was so horrific. The cops requested to speak to a counselor or psychiatrist because out of the 20 something years, that they had served as police they never encountered what they had seen that day. It was a horrible scene and the fact that the hospital sent her home after she requested to stay there because she didn't trust herself with her baby. The system failed her and that newborn baby.
The system can only do so much. They just want the parents the chance to change. Sadly. Thats not always the case. Its people. We are the problem. Our actions
@@killawhale8319 we are not "people" when we are mentally ill. She knew that she was dangerous to the people around her and that she can't help herself. The system failed her, no one else.
I actually feel so sorry for the mother who ate her baby. When she comes to her senses and sanity... She has to live with what she did. Remember and visualize what she did. Oh my god. Horrific. Mental health is no joke and the mental health team at the hospital let her, her family and that baby down.
The system failed that baby she should have never been able to have a child when he was born he should have been given to a family member or a family that would've been mentally competent to take care of him.
@@angienagtalon9691 How so? You never gave an answer. She really isn’t wrong and I feel you may be a 8yr old on your moms account because what grown adult says “ur”.
@@angienagtalon9691 You can take your 8 year old self and try to act smart somewhere else because that line was so dumb lol. *"Ur wrong"*. Grow up lmfao
“I don’t wanna get shot.” And your daughters wanted to get stabbed? Also that was 100% revenge against her husband. Her actions had nothing to do with saving the girls from pain. She wanted to hurt her husband.
How can a mother strike her kids with a knife! That saving them from pain is utter BS! I can't imagine a scenario being more painful than knowing your own mother is killing you, unless you're saving them for a more painful imminent death.
It's so sad how many mothers are not taken seriously when it comes to their mental health. She was begging for help but was brushed off. My heart goes out to Otty and her son and all others who have had similar tragedies happen
While she should have access to her medicine, she didn't want medicine when pregnant and she allowed herself to continue her pregnancy and kept the child despite her previous psychotic episodes. Bad decisions by everyone but she is not free from blame because of her illness.
@Menace To Society absolutely not that isn't what I'm saying. I was just pointing out the fact that mental health is not taken seriously enough. Obviously if you commit a crime you are the one responsible.
@@cosmicatkags mental health isn't just not taken seriously it's barely even considered important by people, especially the medical insurance companies.
I thought the same thing. She tried to killed her kids and succeeded in killing one of them, but her concern is over not getting shot and maybe saving her surviving daughter to reduce her sentence or something. Then she wants to cop a fucking attitude over being asked normal questions like ‘what’s your name’ and ‘how old are your kids?’ I’d have said something rude, at the very least, like ‘bitch, you stabbed your daughters and you think you can tell me how to do MY job? Maybe don’t fucking stab your kids if you don’t want to answer dispatch calls.’ I know I’d lose my job for that but seriously, it takes a special level of tolerance, patience, and self control to tolerate her.
**CORRECTION IN THE JETER CASE***
Kelsey was the girl who passed away. Kiersten tried to save her sister but....
31:08- we will just ignore whatever word I made up...
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That part of the “remastering” LOL?
If someone tells you that they're afraid that they will hurt their baby, believe them.
Exactly.
Or themselves
@Jayce Ollie ‘far leftists’ what does this have to do with politics
@Jayce Ollie This has nothing to do with politics
I personally wont have children. And that's because I don't care for kids, I don't have any interest and definitely don't think I could give them the love they deserve. I wouldn't take care of a kid. I wish all people thought about it before they had kids
This is why mental health should be free and not cost $1,000’s of dollars. That poor baby
It’s all about population control, give pills to make sure that they feel nothing...
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I don't think that's right. Mental illnesses are real and while pills and other meds don't always work, they're better than no treatment. Conspiracy theories like the one you decided to add to this conversation aren't helping anyone. Conspiracy theories, in fact, are making everything worse and adding to the stigma that comes with mental illness. I know you probably think that you're helping and that you know some secrets, but you're really not.
"tell them not to shoot me because I don't have a gun".... Your kids didn't have knives either but that didn't stop you from stabbing them. Monster.
What I found so disturbing was her calmness and coldness, she should have got the death penalty for what she did to her two daughters in that abandoned house, that was pre meditated, she is not like Otty who was mentally ill
And they were so excited, too, poor things. I hope that "mother" burns in hell
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@@chellyw63 yes! My stomach turned every time she spoke to her surviving daughter "what baby?"... Like, you just killed her sister and stabbed her multiple times, now you're talking to her like nothing is wrong? Just so twisted.
I agree, she just wanted to hurt people, death penalty is it for me.
@@gremlininblue2601 agreed! There's no coming back from that kind of evil. Poor girls.
The sister who gave the baby back is going to have to live with that choice for the rest of her life. Absolutely heartbreaking.
My prayers go out to Audi. Who’s got the mental issues going on but what’s really disturbing is how her sister and mother were so quick to give that baby back knowing that his mother was trying to find help. I would say the fault would be theirs as well because they didn’t help her to find the help that she needed, and the thought of them releasing the baby back to her knowing she’s going through that puts them liable and responsible for these babies death. Knowing how unstable OTTY was they handed him back to her that’s definitely something they gotta live with and then as she finally calm down listen to it the sister says her as if nothing happened. I don’t know somethings fishy about that nonetheless rest in peace to the baby, and I hope that this experience will get many more mental patients to help that they need.
People don't care. Society is in decline as there are no morals left. No sense of duty or responsibility. Everybody things as long as they are oj . They don't care about anyone else
Because why did she give her back?!?!
Ha ha ha ha 🤣 unlucky
So why is that funny?@@SEIKOAE86
dude when your sister is telling you she’s hearing voices and hallucinating why would you give the baby back to her?? this story is so sad
Yeah they really failed that child
Yeah thats what I was wondering
I really blame the sister tbh. I mean yeah the mother was bad but it wasn't her fault. 100% her sister's fault.
living with a family member who is deranged for all her life/years, you only get that cautious the first few years... Because if she survived all those years it means she's okay... right? We know it's only one push away and she can snap but we don't know whether it will be tonight or tomorrow... so it's okay to have her hold her baby right?
as someone who experienced living in such a home I kinda understand the situation.
Exactly. She was bringing the baby to her sister knowing she's a danger to her own child, and the sister thought it's okay because she's calmed down? Poor baby :(
You got to keep in mind, she asked to be admitted into a mental hospital, they denied her, and she tried to give her sister the baby to protect him, yet he was returned. The people involved werent that helpful.
i put the most blame on the hospital that refused to admit her but the family also could’ve prevented it
Exactly and some of these comments are so closed-minded. It shows that these people don’t have any mental Illnesses & criticize the people who suffer from them.
@@misseselise3864 The family didn’t have the training to prevent that. Hence why she should have been admitted.,,
The sister had experienced her episodes before and saw them being non violent, in her mind her sister just needed to hand the baby off for a bit while she got a hold of herself, after handing the baby back to the mother the episode resumed and the voices told her the sister was dead there by convincing her that she couldn't give the baby back. It's unclear how aware the sister was of what these episodes consisted of, she likely underestimated the severity of the situation, believing that her sister(the mother) would never hurt the baby because in her mind she could never hurt anyone, the sister isn't to blame, sometimes it's just harder to see the full picture when you're that close to things.
@nexialist sometimes there is not enough room in the hospital and patients lie about the severity of their illness. She probably was referred to another facility and never went. Hospitals dont just turn people away on a whim they have a whole protocol. Yall are quick to attack the ones actually doing something while yall arent helping anyone at all ever.
All children deserve parents, not all parents deserve children. So sad.
Well said and yes, it's beyond tragic!
True
Most definitely. Not all people should have children, which is why it annoys me when people try to push others to have them when informed that that person doesn't want to have children.
I agree so damn much!
She had a mental illness and even tried all she could to get health officials to believe her. They failed thg at baby just as much as she did
I knew Otty. We went to highschool together (Freshman/Sophomore year). She was the sweetest, nicest girl i knew. The medical system and her family failed her. She never received the help she so desperately needed.
She knew she was ill. No one believed her.
Rest in peace, Baby Scott. I hope Otty is getting the help she needs in whatever institution she is in.
No you didn't
@@killer008ru don’t kno shit. she could be telling the truth mind ur business
@@HarmonyGreene-nr9lf nah she just pretending
@@killer008r you, apparently, don't know shit.
@@killer008r may i ask how do u know she is pretending
the operator in the second call is incredible for staying so calm while on the phone with a real life monster.
Omg ikr
That's part of their job, they can't be freaking out when someone calls with a life or death situation. It may come across as cold but it's not
I don't think she asked enough questions to get information. Move on to the next ask about the children..she just stopped after the name...could have done a bit better in my opinion.
@@hungrymothergoose well the mother wasn't giving much to work with, giving very vague directions and not a lot of info about herself or what was going on with the daughters, plus telling them to fucking get there like they were the ones who hurt her kids and not her.
@@caroldowning5964 some people are just mentally strong. But you can tell she was uneasy and nervous
the little twelve year old girl who jumped over her sister to save her life is the f**king bravest person ive ever heard of. That little girl deserves the world, rest in peace little angel, ive never met you but you have a special place in my heart, right next to your sister, love.
He actually had it backwards kierstan (the one who tried to save her sister) was the one who survived, sadly her sister passed.
@@alexxhobbs7575 that’s even more tragic, knowing you tried but couldn’t save her. Horrible mother.
That girl who jummed is still alive...d other1 is dead..wht ur msg mean by right nxt to ur sister?
@@advocatesmitataru3554 she says they have a place in her heart right next to each other. Don't think about it too hard.
What time of the video did he mention her?
That third story was heartbreaking. Hearing her last words before passing away is horrible. I can’t even imagine being a dispatcher
Everyone failed otty. Her sister for giving the child back,the mental health system for rejecting her cry for help and sending her home when she begged them to keep her,and most of all America for making people have to pay for vital medication. Everyone should feel ashamed and now a child is dead and the woman that was failed so many times has to live with what she's done.
The mental health system is so screwed up in America... needs way more attention :(
This is what made me cry
I believe it, I went to a free clinic I told them I was having anxiety really bad they said I would have to wait months for an appointment and that they probably wouldn't give me any medication. Good thing I wasnt suicidal. I just can't imagine if a person who was asked for help at the same clinic and got that answer.
@@oliviawright8756 eh, just you. I'm diagnosed with severe depression and attempted suicide multiple times, the last time I did a couple years ago some healthcare workers showed up at the hospital to speak to me and they filled out paperwork so I can get free health insurance that I still have today. I don't have to pay for anything.
@@shyryTsr2k I think it is hit it miss in getting help. Sadly, I have found that people can be quite miserly when it comes to giving it information that can help you, especially if "it isn't their job". I suffer from depression and anxiety as well. I have other disabilities too, and fortunately over the years have found help. I'm glad you found help too. It is an ongoing thing isn't it. At least we are finding our way through. God Bless you.🤗
The mom says “What baby?” To one of her daughters like she didn’t just try to kill her
I know... I thought the same thing.
I know, right!!? Like the Mom is asking what type of salad dressing her daughter Said she wanted on her salad!! 🙄
made me sick...how could she even think to call her daughter that after doing such a traumatic act.
The lady requested help, told she was going to kill the kid and professionals sent her home with the baby anyway the day before. The system failed her and that baby.
@@monicabolden8663 I think you are referring to the first story, these comments are about the call with the mother of the two girls and when the surviving daughter says something in the background she asks "what baby?" In a nonchalant way like she was just going on about a normal day and the kid had asked her something or said something and she didn't hear her. It was eerily calm.
The mother in the second call doesn’t DESERVE to call her child “baby”
Edit: everyone replying to me keeps thinking I’m talking about the first call, I’m talking about the second one. The one where the mother killed both her children in an abandoned house. Please reread before replying.
That’s not her child no more.
My goodness dude the child is dead and she's like "yeah get the fck over hear now to save my kid" das tuff
@@sevageza.delulu_ istg! My mouth was open the whole time listening to her.
@@Court-H2O I was in shock at how she was talking😔
Imagine what happened to her.
You are not being born like this.
People like this were MADE.
Most time it's the parents faul... Etc pp...
I've always had mental health issues. My mother and I made a pact early on in my first pregnancy. If I felt or thought I'd hurt my baby, call her immediately, and she would come get him until I could get help. I had postpartum depression with my first. She was 45 minutes away and made it there in 20. Thank you Mom.
Oh, are you and your kids okay now?
I was also wondering the same.
Are you and your children fine now?
And God bless your amazing Mother!
I myself have been struggling with anxiety as long as I can remember.
I was diagnosed with anxiety and depressions in my early 20s.
Later I was diagnosed with ADD.
This is a major reason as to why I have no children.
I didn't want to pass that on to innocent children.
I’m so glad your mom could help! My postpartum depression was pretty bad, I told my mom I needed help and wanted her to watch him while I went the docs to see if I could get some treatment options and she told me I was selfish and didn’t care about my kid, then she tried to put him up for adoption. I got on meds and left the house and I’ve been fine since. I had friends help me so I wasn’t alone with my kid during that time either just because I had heard so many horror stories of PPD moms hurting their kids.
You see, that is how a mom is supposed to act. If our kids are 60 and they call us in need, we are there to help them. Parenting isn’t for 18 years, it’s a lifelong endeavor, and I’m grateful for that. Trust me, if my boys stayed living with me until they were 21 or whatever, as long as they worked and saved or got educated, I would have loved it. But they wanted to be grown ups and that was that.
If you has PPD so bad after your first child then why on Earth would you choose to have a second baby? That is selfish and extremely dangerous 😢
“What’s your name sir?”
“Daniel”
“Pablo?”
“Yeah”
😂😂😂😂 and then kept calling him that and he answering 😩💀
Lmao 😂
ikr 😆
But we just heard Beatriz speak her last words and just got shot.
That’s horrible..
@@GBR-cj6fj it's okay, there's humor in everything, they simply laughed at that little exchange taken out of context, I'm sure they still respect what's actually going on in the vid
Debra admitting to killing her children like she's ordering pizza wtf
Ikr
Come on, hurry save the one that didn’t die :)
Eric Foreman I know lol
Unus?
@@annier9742 memento mori :)
Not enough people talking about how that girl saved her sister.
Hero
sorry i ruined ur 69 likes but i had no choice but to like this comment
Actually he did a correction and the one who tried to save her sister was the one that lived.
She was unable to save her sister. Poor girl. I was surprised to hear that she willing went to visit her mom after her sentencing.
@@trackydoo I hope she doesn’t blame herself for what happened :(
@@bliviously5484 I’m sure she had some horrific survivors guilt. I have an older sister and I couldn’t imagine how I’d feel if we were in a situation where she died and I lived. I’m sure she had guilt for a very long time, but I hope that she has been able to overcome that guilt, because NONE of it was her fault.
The lady in the abandoned house was very competent and deserves a full sentencing
Death sentence honestly, since she wants to live so bad. “I don’t have a gun, tell the cops to not shoot” is wicked
Yup. Classic mother killing her children to get back at the husband.
Not necessarily. Shock can cause you to act like that.
The way Debra spoke about killing her children and then how she called her half-dead daughter “baby” and said “hold on they’re coming” like she didn’t just try to kill her confuses tf out of me
n the fact that she's so fucking calm about killing her children-
You can't make sense of severe mental illness. It's tragic her daughter died and also that she didn't get help long before that happened
She has mental health.Probably didnt understand the situation
The operator on the last call.....I jist cant undestand. HIM!!!!.....i remember this case though...sad....
That was a very good video....sad sad circumstances ...but very good work Sir😊
That is incredibly sad. She asked and begged everyone for help. Even handed her baby to her sister and TOLD her she was seeing things and the babies face was changing. Damn man.
@@UmatsuObossa the thing is when you’re like this you don’t really have a sense of what’s right or wrong, you’re not aware you’re doing anything bad until it’s over, so it’s not that she “listened” to the voices she just wasn’t aware *in the moment* that it was a bad thing bc it felt real and like it was what she was suppose to be doing. i hope this make sense :)
@@ginnybean838 Still...yes and no. I was on nitrous oxide for a dentist appt once, and I was definitely experiencing delusions, I felt like I had been in the dentist chair since the dawn of time and world be forever into the future as well, but even though I felt that way, I still also knew that wasn't actually right. Also in a fit of depression once I took a shitton of benedryl and was definitely getting weird delusions from that. I was talking to a friend and telling him I didn't know if I was even actually talking to him, or if what I was saying was gibberish or not. But when I sobered up, everything I'd thought I'd said, I'd actually said, and I'd never behaved irrationally the entire time. It could be something with my brain, maybe I'm extraordinarily grounded in reality or something. Everything I've ever done that has made others supposedly lose control of themselves, I never came close.
@@UmatsuObossa her delusions aren’t from drugs it’s different
@@UmatsuObossa
The thing is, when you’re being hounded by voices, when reality begins to change, your brain, especially when it is purely your brain that is doing this to you. When she was in her psychosis, she has no sense of anything but what her brain is doing to her- believing she has a demon/needs to get the demon out. It is clear that her psychosis took over and won, she was no longer herself and she’ll forever have to live with knowing she did it, even though it wasn’t entirely her fault.
@@UmatsuObossa Though we get where your coming from, but that was a one time thing for you. Otty was experiencing it constantly and she tried to get help for it but she couldn’t pay for it. Please be mindful and don’t compare your experiences to something so big when yours is so small. Your sane. She is not. Otty took drugs constantly, you took them for whatever reasons you needed them for.
Otty shouldn’t have been discharged. The hospital is responsible for her baby’s death and everyone’s trauma. Poor Otty.
So is the.sister
@Madison Daily yes because she was very mentally ill and suffering, she needed very serious medical attention, and it just seemed like she did not get that. “poor otty” doesn’t mean forget the baby. the baby deserved to live and not get tortured and killed. it’s all more than f-ed up.
@Madison Daily i think that’s such a cruel thing to say...yes, poor baby
@Madison Daily well that’s your opinion, but if that was true there would be no such thing as mental health hospitals or therapists.
@Madison Daily because she was severely ill in a way that impacted her thinking and behaviour...acknowledging that she couldn’t help it doesn’t mean saying it was an ok thing to do.
that first one made me cry, especially considering that she told the doctors that she was hearing voices telling her to hurt her baby and that he babies face was shifting. Like she told them to admit her and they just sent her to live with her sister and the baby. If someone who has past problems with voices like that tells you their hearing voices and are scared they'll hurt their child, don't send them home with the child
Caller calmly: “I just killed my children”
Dispatcher hoping she heard wrong: “Excuse me?”
The people on the phone get traumatised, already. Now imagine being the guy who has to clean up the mess.
Thank god the stayed on the call, like wow
@@nocturnaljoe9543 I mean the police get the body they have to clean the blood tho so if they imagine it’s paint hopefully it’s less painful and traumatising
@@starlitsong8456 no a crime scene team that specializes in cleaning crimes scenes after the police are done
Idk man but that's a cute horse
My heart absolutely breaks for Otty. She did everything she could to get help and the doctors told her no, she didn’t need to be put on the unit, then her sister gave her back the baby even though she’d given Scotty to her several times and they all knew she was hearing voices and having hallucinations. Everyone who was supposed to help her failed, that just breaks my heart. You can only do so much to help yourself when you are so severely ill and your support system isn’t listening.
Idubidably!!!
I agree with you 100%!! Just the fact alone that she ate the baby tells us, mental illness is at play here. Then you add all the people who failed her when she was trying to get her mind well again and it becomes something entirely different than other premeditated murders.
Exactly. Alot of ppl with mental illness never get the help they truly need. She wanted the help, she knew she was getting bad off but noone took her serious. I feel for her. Its so sad about her baby. If they would’ve listened to her then scotty may still be alive.
@@trickortrump3292 her saying she was gagging but the voices kept telling her to eat it breaks my heart. She was so sick and tried so hard to get help. I feel like guilt will eat her alive in her sane moments
Right...she needed help and she tried to get it. The baby and her didnt need to be in the same home as each other
The fact that the sister gave the baby back to her mentally disturbed sister who had already said she was afraid she would hurt the baby and was hearing voices "after she calmed down" is just mind boggling. Poor Otty and poor baby. Such a horrific tragedy that never should have happened.
I 100% agree all that good of being avoided she could of kept the baby
It’s not her sisters job to take care of her baby.
@@jasoncaldwell0613nobody’s saying it is, but if someone’s telling you they’re gonna hurt their baby cause of the voices in their head and is practically begging u to take the baby from them why on earth would you give it back to them?? she knew that otty had struggled w mental health issues too?? like this could’ve been avoided
@@jasoncaldwell0613It quite literally was her job. otty was put in the care of her sister, it was absolutely her sisters job to make sure she was going to be okay.
@@mwag8403 Please stop abusing the word: literally. From the sound of her sister, she was likely not competent to assume this responsibility. Unless you know otherwise and I doubt you do, her sister did not become her legal guardian. Please except the reality, that some people are not curable, and NEVER will be. Both the mother and the sister were too stupid to make the correct choice: tell CPS about her history, decline involvement and insist that the baby be adopted, immediately. That would have been both intelligent and responsible.
My heart just broke for the lady with the chimp, hearing the desperation in her voice 💔
"The price of her medications caused her to stop taking them." Just another person failed by our heath system.
Heartbreaking
Yet people from out of their country get more than citizens
She also actually sought help 💔 😔
What you want them to be free and your taxes raised by 10 times more? I don’t think you know how that works.
@@puest-uo4lr i don't think you do either
The girl literally jumped in front of the knife for her sister 🥺
I know that really broke my heart like what a good sister :,(
And she is the one who lived
@@brooklynsizemore2372 the one that tried to save her sister lived?? I couldn’t tell from the video I just assumed the one that passed was the one that jumped in top. God I feel like I am forever scarred for watching this video because I can’t stop thinking about this. Can’t imagine how the survivor and her relatives feel. Truly evil.
@@ABeautyConnectionx yea she lived
Poor girls 😢
Hero
The way how she said “I just killed my children” so calmly- and was telling her “hurry up, hurry come on” I’m-
Ikr the way she said "hurry up" in an annoyed tone like she was getting someone to fetch her some water or some shit
@how to respond It was so scary the fact that I'm so scared she might attack the other one if she got the so pissed about it.. the way she speaks like.. it wasn't her children at all
And even cursed out the operator, like they wouldn't have to hurry if you didn't try to kill your children ma'am
it’s the fact she was talking to them asking “what baby?”
It annoyed me that the dispatcher kept calling her sweetie, darling and crap like that...
this is so sad. she really tried to tell EVERYONE that she was going to hurt herself or somebody else, and what was working for her was something she couldn’t afford. my heart breaks for everyone involved.
Right after she tried to kill her daughters “hold on a second, yeah sweetie what’s wrong”
I effin hate debra
Sadly that was the real Deborah answering her daughter in distress, o grew up with a mom with multiple personality disorder, her other personality won, took over, my mother took off with my youngest sister leaving my family. I went to live with my mom around 16, well watching her go from personality from personality was devastating..
Right! That was so whicked! And calling the kid baby while she says she cant help her? Im assumming she came to her senses somehow before finishing off the second child. Im a bit surprised the surviving daughter was given time to chat w her mother who tried murdering her, but maybe it gave the girl closure. I know love is bigger than most things someone can do thats bad, but damn...
when the mom said that i got pissed, you just tried to murder your kids only to be like "hold on a second, yeah sweetie what’s wrong" like why do that
she did that for a reason she had to keep it cool because she doesn’t know what debra was capable of. Trying to make her seem “safe” but really it was so she could calm down and the police can get her
How do you kill one of your kids, and try to kill your other then say "what baby?" You're a true monster!
That made me shiver!
I like to think she was cursing at her. The daughter I mean.
Mental illness can be a monster
She was mentally ill she tried to get help but the system failed her
Ohh man that what shooked me, how in the world!!!
The woman who found the abandoned baby in the trash showed a billion times more concern and love for that baby that wasn’t even hers than that monster Debra showed for her children ...
Exactly!! Very very sad 😢 how could someone harm a child? I just don't get it...smh 😩
I know I agree.. so sad and senseless uch
Ghosts, Satans and demons are everywhere. They will take advantage on weak ppl if they had a chance. Depression ppl have weak souls so dont ignore them. Suiciders are also get disturbed by Satans. When they hear things means their condition are getting worse. Dont ignore them until they have to kill somebody and Then you panick. These kinds of ppl need to be treated. If they ignored, their condition can be worsen. Their body need to be 'cleanse'. I know this because im a Muslim. Alhamdulillah 😇
Asian Female Ghosts? Satans? Demons I understand but there’s only one Satan, and ghosts aren’t evil they can be but they’re people that haven’t passed on to the afterlife.
Yeah listening to that part was like a breathe of fresh air after hearing about Debra's horrible killing. It's like I almost lost touch of the good people in the world. Its scary how people go insane and do things like this to other innocent people. Just imagining myself being a physco makes me feel disgusting
The fact it took so long to locate the house is my worst fear come true. Our house is located on a small backstreet off of the main street. There are only 4 houses back here and despite having a sign up saying our addresses are around the back routinely every delivery driver cannot find it and it takes 10 minutes and often walking out onto the main street to get them to find us. We had an emergency last year (it was much milder than we thought and my family member was fine thankfully) and luckily a neighbour heard the commotion and went out to signal the ambulance. But im terrified of one day something worse happening and no one being there to help them find us. I always tried to comfort myself thinking that emergency services would pay more attention to street signs than a delivery driver but hearing this series has reminded me how human these people are and mistakes are still possible to make especially in the dark when that sign isnt as visible
That's what happened to me once. I had very high pulse, and feared i would faint and called emergency services. Our House was the only one in the street, somewhere between two villages. We got the number 21, and all the other houses with the same street name were actually on an road opposite to us.
I saw the emergency drive up and down the road in the distance while trying to remain calm while trying to describe the location of our house to them.
Omg 🤯🤯🤯
The first baby would likely still be alive if america had a better healthcare system...
Yes. This could've been completely avoided if the healthcare system was better. I'm so sorry for everyone involved, I hope they all get the help they need.
Jörunn von Westernhagen you both are completely clueless lol
@@duckhunter17 then explain please.
@@duckhunter17 If you think so.
The baby would still be alive if the sister didnt give it back to the sick mother.
The lady who stabbed her daughters calling her daughter "baby" as she's lying there bleeding out is so cold. That lady is deranged.
Facts
she spoke of them as objects.. " one is dead dead but the other one is alive and wants to be saved." THOSE ARE YOUR CHILDREN HOW COULD YOU!!!! omggg i'm so angryyyyyyyyy
She stabs her kids out in the middle of friggin nowhere and then gets snippy when the ambulance takes too long.
They should’ve gave her the death penalty still
I guess you don't understand mental illness. It's not so simple as good abd evil.
I don't know why I'm listening to these calls but this is horribly terrifying.
Its demonic
Me too dude it makes me so sad and hate humans even more but yet I can't stop myself from listening. How does a mother/Friend/Lover even do this hanus crimes against their loved ones. Makes me sick to the stomach
I fall down these holes of listening to this stuff, worryingly often 😅 I guess it's the side of me drawn to morbid stuff like everyone else like ya know conspiracy theories a campfire tales. I think it is important to monitor your mental health through these though, that's absolutely vital-- people can be absolutely horrifying for sure.
It gives us a sick thrill... in our otherwise dull lives
I’m listening to this at 2:35am! I don’t wanna sleep anymore but I have class in the morning
The way these people are speaking so clearly on these 911 calls stating they just killed is so scary...its terrifying to know that human beings can do such evil even animals couldnt do this.
Guess u didn't listen to the last call where the chimpanzee rips the lady's fucking face off
Well the monkey did he mangled that lady over a tickle me Elmo toy
“I get to see my mom tomorrow! Yay!” So heartbreaking..
J Juice I don’t think that’s the right response
😢
@@gbands9699 wtf is wrong with you
@SJ JUS DUZIT The daughter posted in on social media (My stupid as cant remember what it was) The day before her mom stabbed her.
@SJ JUS DUZIT I'm pretty sure it was her Myspace
The way she said "I killed my children" was so cold, that sent shivers down my spine.
Yeah, even the 911 operator was like "excuse me". I bet even she was shocked at how cold she was.
so cold.
Wency HD she said it calmly too , god she’s sick
Julio Rodriguez/ She said it in the most MONOTONE voice ever. Her statement afterwards proves how cold it is when she says something like "Get here quick one of them wants to live". It just makes the "I killed my children", as her first statement macabre
Julio Rodriguez / OH. yeah 😂
"Hurry the fuck up! Why aren't you comin'?! I want to save my daughters whom I have brutally stabbed! C'mon!" ...*sigh*
That’s wild but who asked
@Natalie Malmgren you ain’t gotta tell me shorddy
Right! It's not like she was even trying to stop the bleeding or anything!
Karen Whinesmore nvm lol
@@karenwhinesmore9347 not excusing her actions but trying to stop bleeding right after a serious psychotic episode due to severe stress or illusions (we have no clue what she was undergoing) would be quite hard. Not only is it hard for people in the medical field to do it under stress, but for your every day person to do it seems highly unlikely. And like medical professionals advise, you should call 911 and let the professionals who actually know what their doing deal with it. if she or any of us tried without any clue, we could likely injure said person even more. Again though, not excusing her actions
i watched the second call a few years ago and her nonchalance still surprises me 😭 the dispatcher handled it so well though
The sister that jumped infront of the other sister was a hero, she died saving her sister. Poor girl
It was actually the younger sister that died, she unfortunatelly couldn't save her, the creator corrected himself in the comments
ok
She gave her life for another . This is the ultimate sacrifice. She is in paradise forever and ever.
@@bruceleehee9267
She survived, the sister she was trying to save died. Sad.
Otty tried to get help because she knew her baby was in danger. Everyone failed that baby. So sad.
Yeah yeah
I know Otty Sanchez as a friend and coworker. I do know she and her family repeatedly asked for help, made numerous trips to doctors and ERs. All in vain. To listen to people on a daily basis state that she should be killed, dragged in the streets, set on fire in the street and so on took a toll on all of us who knew her. She is in the state mental hospital and will not be released. Only her family can visit. She has to live with this. I know for a fact she loved Stephen with all her heart and would never under any normal circumstance EVER hurt him. She would have died to protect him. The health care system and doctors let her down at every turn. Thank you for realizing the truth.
The one person that failed that baby the most was otty. Idk why ppl keep trying to pass the blame off of the killer.
They should have listened to Otty when she told them to take her to the mental hospital place..
@@Tsiri09 Yeah, she was telling them "I need to go to the mental hospital" But they didn't listen.. and when she couldn't afford the prescription, they should have tried to help her the best they could by paying for it or something.
The fact that the officers in the first call actually required psychological help really says how horrific of a sight they must have found.
I'm sure that Otty's sister needed a lot of support too. And that dispatcher was a jackass.
all first responders are affected by children the most
I hope they got the help they needed.
@@aloysiusdevanderabercrombi470 how...
Aloysius Devander Abercrombie right! they were really rude and impatient while ottys sister was in a clear state of panic.
i can’t imagine how stressed the paramedics were while trying to find that damn house
I'm glad they were on time. Imagine if they couldn't find it and that girl bled out.
@Jane Doe did you watch the video or
They probably get used to being around crazy people in America
i’m stressed just listening to it
@Florian shes giving them minimal info, wtf you mean incompetence? They saved the child's life. I'd like to see how you react to that sort of situation.
The sister failed her nephew the fact she gave the baby back to her mental sister shows a lot. The sister didn’t want to be bothered all of them are to blame
he should’ve gone when OTTY said she was ready, not based on the sisters judgement
It makes me so nervous to have a baby i have mental issues and absolutely no support 😢
The girl was a hero, she died to save her sister.
absolutely right. i hope that she’s resting well.
Actually, the elder daughter tried to save her little sister but wasn't able to. The one who survived was the one who tried to save the other one. The whole 911 call was unbearable :(
@@fayleurefayleure1495 absolutely wrong. She lived and her sister died despite her best efforts.
God bless her
Fr it breaks my heart
The woman who murdered her own children is a monster. She was so calm and talked to her daughter who was dying as if nothing happened. It makes me nauseous to think that she did that with seemingly no remorse
you can hear reality slowly set in and she gets desperate to have her helped. sucks that these crazy people end up regretting their actions so soon after but not soon enough to prevent it.
@Baby Nunu the first one was mentally ill and it really wasn't her fault. She had repeatedly asked for help from her family and from the doctors. The second one wasn't mentally ill. She was just a spiteful bitch who took her anger out on her poor daughters.
@@shreyamishra6310 no she had some psychiatric problems too... did you not see the part where she was suicidal? I mean yeah still, no excuse, and she prbly still wanted revenge. Just be aware tho
exactly like it’s disgusting
Yeah and she wanted to be a nurse...
The first women should have never been allowed to take her baby home with her with that kind of severe mental illness. I can only imagine how regretful the sister is over sending the baby back to her bed that night. The second mother deserves the death penalty she planned this out to give her daughters a “surprise” just plan evil. Her being suicidal has nothing to do with her evil actions that day she said repeatedly she didn’t want to die please tell cops not to shot me...wow just wow!
Im pissed off at the sister, otty clearly didn't want her son next to her, yet they still forced her to look after him. They could of saved the baby yet they still gave him back to her
That's exactly what I'm thinking 🤔 please tell them not to shoot me but Yeah it's okay to kill your children 😭
Just wanted to say I’m the 100th like completely agree that baby shouldn’t have gone back with otty at all the second one just makes me sick she doesn’t deserve a life the police shouldn’t have shown mercy they should have just shot
@@louisephillips5429 yea i get what ur saying but she probably didnt think she would kill her baby the baby was a newborn so thats probably why they tried to make her take the baby because a baby needs its mother especially a newborn
@@lewissabre um, what country do you live in? In America the police do not dispense justice nor ever plan to shoot anyone. It doesnt matter what was done. They are simply there to bring a suspect to custody. They arent even allowed to shoot you for running away if youre not armed. The only time they are supposed to shoot is *if you raise a gun*. So her request is as ignorant as your response. Justice is dispensed via the courts in the US.
Debra was very demanding considering what she just did to her daughters. It would be difficult for her to claim insanity considering how calm & collected she was.
How comes no one talking about how the older sister gave her life to the younger?
I love my younger sister so much I couldn't bare losing her.
It's so sad.
How she must have felt losing her sister.
@@dantebryian6104 even tho your a father?
@@dantebryian6104 cause tht b dumb
@@jusspost3229 Maybe to someone who dont care about anyone but themselves. ive heard alot of things in my life but never been told i was dumb for protecting my family n children 😂
@@dantebryian6104 it’s just weird cuz you sayin how you a father and shit but you would be so quick to jump in front of another...pretty stupid but whatever now go somewhere
@@jusspost3229 not anyone. my family. and go somewhere? you replied to my comment. 😂
That girl in the beginning is just so sad and sick. The woman was truly truly sick in her head and the hospital should have checked her in when she requested. She tried to save the baby and herself.
The hospital didn't fail her, her own sister did.
Aurelius Marcus they BOTH failed her it’s not just all on the sister.
Yeah it was both of them the hospital majorly failed her. She requested to be checked in saying her babies face was changing. Why would you not check someone in if they say that?
@@untildawn262 yea and also the fact that she couldnt afford the medication that made her feel better and got rid of the voices
Kay Paranormal and yet her sister is being treated as a scapegoat!
Otty needed help.. And everyone failed her when she asked for help..
Absolutly. It's really sad
Yah they don't really care,,I'm so sad for the Baby ,,haist
I’m crying with her sister call, omg, this is so so sad and heartbreaking 💔
Wow thank you for covering this. I lived in the area and I remember when this happened. It was heart wrenching to see happen in your hometown.
Respect dispatchers for remaining totally calm when people say stuff like “hi I just killed my children”
real talk
For reallll. It's gotta be so hard to call that woman 'sweetie' and act like she didn't just slaughter her children.
Or "my chimpanzee ripped my girlfriend's face off and ripped her apart."
I mean how do you not even REMOTELY question that or reply SHOCKED even for a millisecond!
HOW DO YOU PREPARE FOR A CALL LIKE THAT?!
True.. because if i was the dispatcher, i would yelled and angry
straight up just said excuse me?
“tell them don’t shoot me I don’t want to be shot” well the kids ain’t want to get stabbed either now did they Debra?
Right?!
facts
Nahh fr tho 😂🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
That's weird, I heard her say she's got an SKS and coppers ain't taking her alive....bring it.
I said the same thing when I heard that... she has sum nerve
Otty used her last ounce of sanity to ask for help. They failed her big time. Her family too.
When you stab your 2 kids and then call the cops and say if they hurry they can save them you know your insane
Her family didn’t fail her. Her sister literally took care of her and her child.
@@nevoodles8210 she gave her baby to her sister because she was seeing things and that her baby's face was changing, and her sister literally just handed the baby back to her saying her that everything was okay and then the family went to sleep like nothing happened. her family ABSOLUTELY failed her.
I thought the title was like not true because youtubers do that often and now I- jdnskabg I’m traumatized.. How could she eat part of her baby I can’t even imagine
@@sasakimirai4318 what if you were taking care of a mentally Unstable person and their baby. This was a thing she would always do, she would get the baby when otty wasn’t feeling right but when otty calmed down she would get the baby back. On top of that Otty killed her baby, it wasn’t the sister or anyone else. Yes, she was not doing well mentally but she did kill her baby. Blaming anyone else for her actions doesn’t do anything.
My god the last lady 😩 I feel so sorry for her. She really was going through it 😩
That dispatcher on the second scene needs a hero award. She was so amazing talking to a evil person the way she did to defuse the situation. How could you kill your children.
Mental health issues!
@@ericasant84 exactly
@@ericasant84 fuck that , she knew what she was doing
@@jugz9130 she knew what she did but no mentally stable person would do that
@@jamieorkyle9108 oh well , she still knew and had the mental capacity to call 911 and speak clearly without stuttering
“Don’t shoot me because I don’t have a gun” she literally just stabbed both your daughters. What a narcissist all she cares about is herself. Disgusting how calm she is in the call
Yes she was just a terrible human being sent from hell. Not a mental problem or anything just pure demonic and crazy.
Kudos to the operator that kept her cool even while being verbally abused by this awful woman.
then should they stab you?
@@streamgirlsnight girl what
@@joanna9600 “because I don't have a gun” but you have a knife:)
I feel like the worst thing a child has to live with is knowing their parent tried to kill them
If that was my mom I would have wanted her to be sentenced to death~ but that’s my opinion- it’s cause she killed one her kids then tried to kill the second one horrible just HORRIBLE!🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬
From what I know of the story the daughter doesn't blame her mother and even has agreed to see her while she's in jail.
I know that feeling. It destroys your self esteem in a way that is hard to fight back against. When your mom doesn't care if you die, you don't either. You kinda of give up and it takes a lot to get back
I can't even imagine the horrror bc the parent trying to kill them wasn't even the worst part. The worst part was that girl who survived, jumped on top of her sisters body to sheild her from the attack. But she still died. Meaning not only did she have to endure the attack, she had to watch her mother repeatedly stab them both and then watch her sister showly die right before her eyes. I would've just offed myself if I was the sister who survived. I would never be able to get over seeing that.
That poor lady on the phone trying to be quiet, hearing her ex unalive her was heartbreaking..I'll never understand how people do things like that verses moving on, and finding someone new..and the poor baby's, so heartbreaking..
Unalive?! No.... I've heard that too much!
23:57 it's sad to see that this still happens. My best friend was found in the trash, umbilical cord still attached and everything. Except his birth mother put him in a trash sack and set the trash sack on fire. He still has the scars, but he now has a good husband and now is actually trying to adopt a baby girl that they saved and found in a car. There are so many options for people, they can drop their baby off anonymously at a firehouse, hospital, QT, school, libraries, even just knocking on someone's house and running off! So many options but people still chose the worst ones.
Edit: they got their daughter! Her name is Hope
@Jack Smith Yes, they were originally husband and wife, but later on he came out as Transgender.
Carli The Great that is so sweet! Its really sad people just throw away babies but I’m glad to hear they adopted that little girl and Hope is such a fitting name! ♥️
@Jack Smith yes, straight marriage isn't the only thing that exists.
Amazing how he used his pain to save another child from the same pain. If That isn't Fate; I don't know what it is.
im so happy for your friend and his husband !!
As a person with significant hearing loss I cannot thank you enough for the subtitles. So rare.
You can toggle the 'subtitles' button on a youtube video (one of the tiny buttons on the right lower corner of the vid) and it will let you watch all videos with subtitles
You can easily turn captions on or off on all vids on UA-cam..
@@boredweegie553 sometimes the subtitles have a mind of their own and start saying words that sound similar to what's said. Its always cool having nicely edited subtitles to read along with like this dude incorportates.
There are quite a few videos that say, "Captions not available.", when you hit the captions button, actually. Even if they are available they are usually far from correct as they use some automated system that goes off of audio. A lot of the time they aren't even readable. I can hear fine, fortunately, but use them because of audio processing abilities. They would be laughably bad if I didn't know they were so essential for so many people.
She's blind in one eye stupid!
That dispatcher talking to Debra deserves some damn recognition for not going there herself and ripping that thing to shreds. She did such a great job.
Well she cant do that...
Shorya Cione well duh 🙄
The last one was a roller coster of emotions...
"The chimp killed my friend"
"What is the problem?"
I can't
That whole incident has lived rent free in my head since the first time I heard about it as a kid 🦧
😢
I can’t believe Debra was still talking to her children like normal calling them baby and just talking to them like she didn’t just attack them. Absolutely crazy
No normal person would have the balls. Psychotic, is what it is..
do you not know what psychosis is?
@@Ohwowokaythanks No matter what it is it’s horrible for the people around it and who have it
@@keahjahwalker696 yeah which is why we need more recourses, this girl literally was denied help and she killed her baby + eats it and couldve put more people in danger. i truly hope she got the help she needs and medications.
@@Ohwowokaythanks oh yeah I understand Otty, I’m talking about Debra. I just feel like mental health played apart in her case but I do believe she did it out of evilness(2nd caller)
The woman who ate her baby is absolutely tragic. She sought help to save her and the baby and nobody bothered to help her
I hate to say it but if there was no help I'd have not let her be alone with the baby ever, like doors would lock and I'd be constantly seeking anywhere she could go for long term care. It's just sad and why more people need educated on mental health and how it needs to have better access points for people who say I need help
She did get help but her medication was too costly for her.
Jill Seufert unfortunately where I live people who are in psychosis or are facing other psychological problems often get off their prescribed meds after getting out of a hospital/ward. They also can go in voluntarily which means they can sign themselves out and can get someone who doesn’t even know anything about why they’re in there to sign them out. There’s no follow up if the “crazy” person doesn’t want it which is so wrong because when they’re in a certain headspace they may not know what’s best for them. We need stricter rules to help people in need.
Rakeem Foster poor people don’t exist now? 😂💀
Rakeem Foster explain, what doesn’t exist?
Hispanic dude calls in, says name is Daniel. Dispatcher: sounds like a Pablo.
LMFAOO ! 😭🤚🏾
he also said "i shot 3 people"
dispatcher"2 people?ok"
😭✋🗿
Exactly, like how do you even mistake that?
I don't think she made a mistake. I think she knew he because he has been in trouble alot
Wow this video kept me on the edge of my seat in just utter shock…and some tears. Good job 👍🏼. Thanks for the video. Amazing job ❤
The audacity. "What Baby?" As if she's concerned of what her daughter is saying.
Incredibly disgusting. Makes me want to puke that she even spoke to her poor daughter/victim like that. I feel so sorry for her child.
I seriously wanted to go ape shit when I heard that.. like she was a concerned mother.
Honestly, this probably wasn't a lie. The mother in this case was highly delusional and extremely depressed with a mix of a few other issues I'm sure. In the moment she thought her kids were suffering from her divorce so in the heat of the moment she was acting on what she assumed was the solution to all of their problems. After she acted that out her head probably cleared and she did want what was best for her kids.
This is why mental health shouldn't be taken as a joke. People with bi polar, depression, anxiety, psychotic and a lot of other issues can easily fall into a delusional state and do things they normally wouldn't do. The mother is to be blamed for what she did, however, the real culprits are the court and judge who deemed her okay to see her kids and the mental facility that deemed the same.
Austin Cook she was only worried they shoot her they should have put that rabid bit ??? Down
As a Mother and Grandmother. I have never felt so sick and angry towards another human. How dare she call her "baby"!
I sometimes wish I were to be a fish or something. Just, floating out there in the ocean, only eating algae and stuff. Not knowing of humans at all.
And then a bigger fish will come along and eat you.
Not all humans are bad, in fact, most of them are good.
I wish I was a cat getting my belly rubbed and sleep all day and being rude to humans.
Me too. Humans are the worst creation ever made
And then you get to know of'em..when they use bait to reel you in
I hope the fish don't ever wish to be human
Hating a spouse MORE than you love your own children is a kind of hate that is beyond diabolical.
I have an ex partner with whom I have children and my partner has 5 children and I love them as much as my own and we, as adults, all get along brilliantly it makes life easier for the children but we do genuinely like each other.
I felt the same way. The first case was genuine psychosis. Debra knew exactly what she was doing. At any point between planning this, picking up her daughters, driving to the location, walking them inside, pulling a knife on them...she could have stopped at any time and actively chose not to. And her "I wanted to take away all our pain together" BS was such an obvious pity ploy. She wanted to hurt her husband for leaving her, and she had no problem taking innocent lives to do it. Awful human being.
Something men are far more famous for
@@shureemunden4504weird most of these cases were women killing children
@@Lizzie-h3jGreat Mom and Stepmom. You are a GEM ❤. I’ve been loving seeing so many ppl love children for being children whether theirs or not.
The dispatcher with the chimp situation really frustrated me.
Same
huh?
Woman who has an extensive history of psychosis as well as suicidal and homicidal thoughts: Please admit me to the hospital. I am hearing voices telling me to kill my son, and he's not safe with me.
Hospital: lol no you're fine
Woman: Sister, please take my child. I am hearing voices telling me to kill him, and he's not safe with me.
Sister: lol no you're fine
Woman: *kills child*
Everyone: OMG how could she?? No one saw this coming how did this happen? Why didn't she just reach out???
As someone who struggles with hallucinations and delusions as part of my mental health disorder this shit pisses me off so badly. Literally the first and last thing they teach you in any kind of mental health treatment is to reach out for help if you need it. How are people supposed to get help if it will fall on deaf ears? Of course the child is a victim and was severely wronged but in this situation the mother is just as much a victim. Not only does she have schizophrenia to deal with, but now she has to live with what she's done on top of a manslaughter charge when the situation could have been avoided so easily.
bruh
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Ikr. Im kinda pissed to the sister, she should took the baby away and not let otty come back to the baby again. Otty said herself, and they clearly knows she is mentally unstable. I feel sorry to otty and the baby :(
This is why society is so f**ked up.
As someone with psychosis, I agree.
Sometimes illnesses like this are heavily influenced by our emotions. Turning that mother away constantly when she was begging for help, was a dick move.
It's the same thing with suicidal people. Others ignore their cries for help, but once they take their life, then everyone makes a surprised pikachu face because they "didn't know what happened".
How can debora talk to her daughter like she didn’t just try to kill her?? “What’s that baby?”
That was so sick....
The fact they shared a "tender moment" after and laughed together baffles me as well
@@j3ustine where tf did I miss that???
@@m0ntse00 it starts at 18:59 in the video, if I was the daughter i'd never meet with the mom again
@@j3ustine yoooo wtf. How do you even display anything but anger towards that person after that
“Get an ambulance out her to save the one that didn’t die. Come on. Hurry up”
Wtf!
😢😢
Here, she sounded like she's giving the dispatcher a challenge, not asking for help
@@ema5549 Exactly what I thought too!!
Frfr she was acting as if she was telling her children to hurry up when packing up or sum shit, like you just murdered one of your daughters, the one whom you gave birth to how tf can you talk so casually??
They took way too long to even get to them I was legit screaming into my phone like I can't believe how long they friggen took made me sooo mad!
This video was well done, sad, and informative. It made me want to cry for these poor people. Mental illness is very scary.
The chimp one made me annyoed, "he ripped her face off"
officer: is Ur friEND oK?
You can survive with your face off for a long time I’ve seen cartel videos people have survived hours
@@Cvollo yep I know
@@Cvollo true but its the fact the person asked if they're OK
And then he wants her to check on her like wtf. Why? So she can get attacked too. Dude needs a different job.
@@Cvollo yea but they didn't ask if her friend was ALIVE, they asked if her friend was "ok", like wtf do you mean of course she's not ok half of her face is being ripped off..
its so scary how calm she is just saying: “i killed my children.”
"what baby?" Really woman?! You just stabbed your damn kids!
@@ashleyomweno2814 I think she was insane and couldn’t fully process what she had done whilst knowing what she’s done if you know what I mean but still it’s sick that this happens to people it’s so heartbreaking
@@ameliagundry6091 i think insane people and possessed people should be under surveillance not roaming in society because they are dangerous. It’s like living in a jungle of animals and there is no limits of cruelty and killing. Society is for sane people not insane
@@desertmoonlee6631 I agree 100 percent I feel like society needs to take control on that
Theres nothing to do at that point and they are probably insane that's why.
Hearing that girl say “no no, please, no!” And then gun shots... that’s fucking chilling.
I didn't even notice
what time stamp?
@@nicholasballowe2106 21:08
Right?? I can't imagine it happening often when a potential victim is calling 911, gets murdered during the call and then the murderer finishing the call.
She got that for being ahoe
That first woman begged for help and was denied, as sad as this is she was a victim too. Normally I wouldn't have sympathy for someone that hurt a child, but I can't help it in this case. 😢😢😢
No one:
Not a soul:
My UA-cam recommended: *“Sooo, Wanna hear about a woman eating kids?”*
Factz
....I hate how accurate this is
@@queenrestauro7865 ?
Same like??? What
@@whatthefridge1o1 I think they ment it got recommend not that they ate a kid (I hope) 😂😂
The second dispatcher is so good. The way the woman talks to her, saying "bitch" and other things, and the dispatcher immediately understands the case, is surprising. I would have said something like "try not killing your children first" when she started telling them to hurry up
Lol. And that's why there's sensitivity training for jobs like that 😂
You would have got her other kid killed then
Imagine growing up with a mother like this...
That cold hearted beast...
i could never call a lady who just stab her children "sweetie" or "darling"
@@lizzy2211 she's being as nice as she can so the mother doesn't harm the living child.
This shows how scary mental illness can be when not treated properly or the person being taken care of.
push that stigma! plenty of sane people out there do fucked up things for a much scarier reason: because they can. fix that.
@@heathermcduffee7058 but, people who do it because they can, that can’t really by prevented. However people who kill with a mental illness, that CAN be prevented.
Tell me abt it. I've been struggling with 5 mental disorders ever since I was 6. Life has never been easy. Especially since I've lived in an dysfunctional childhood and had to raise myself.
Even when treated “properly” they’re still a ticking time bomb with some of these severe psychological pieces of trash. Medicine can only do so much. And no one can force your to even take it. And she’s a grown woman i don’t think they could force her into a facility unless she was arrested during an episode smh
@@scorpionattitude watch what kinda stupid shit you say to the wrong person.
Every time that warning pops up about the content being “inappropriate for some people” I don’t think twice about watching but this video really got to me! From the moms killing their kids to the ex husband shooting his ex girlfriend. This video left me speechless.
The one in the abandoned warehouse killed me..
The worst about being a 911 operator is not always knowing what happened to the person they helped after that phone call ends and just having to take a another phone call after that
@rose We sound insensitive at times because we become numb to our feelings, people don't understand that sometimes. Calls 911 dispatchers take would make other people go absolutely insane!! I know a dispatcher that took a call from a Sr citizen that had someone knocking at her backdoor that she didn't know. Unfortunately, and sad to say, he ended up killing her. There was mass confusion on the address so the cops got there too late. The dispatcher that took the call had a major breakdown NINE YEARS after it happened. She took a call from another Sr citizen that sounded like the lady that was killed and she totally lost it and had to retire. She said after it happened she became numb and it took her 9 years to get past it and start feeling again.
@rose I didn't read your comment, I was just responding to Kiera Fernandez and just olaborated a little more, but yes you can take credit for saying it first.....lol!!!
You know it would probably be a lot easier to work at like customer service or tech support I mean sure they probably come home in a bad mood because people called them and scream at them all day cuz nobody is going to call when everything's running smoothly but a 911 operator they have to live with that horrible shit that they here and then never going to know I'm sure most of them do look it up or they would probably go insane. People that work that kind of job for several years probably I need some heavy counseling after that. I mean bad 911 operator you could tell in her voice that she was upset by what she heard... I am glad they didn't charge the mother in the first phone call though because that was absolutely the fault of whatever doctor released her and refused to keep her at the psychiatric unit.
“I just killed my children.”
“... excuse me?”
I felt bad for laughing, but surely the operator didn’t expect that to be the first words.
I feel the same way when she said "Bitch. Call them!" I shouldn't have chuckled but just, the delivery of that phrase.
I did not like that dispatcher. She seemed to be rather flippant, and she kept calling this killer "Honey, sweetie", etc...that's not a good way to get someone to cooperate. IDK, she just seemed very unprofessional.
@Hudson Furtado I understand all that, the problem I had was that she didn't seem to be actually being kind. It came across to me as condescending and flippant. Where I'm from, calling someone you don't know "honey", "sweetie", etc. is considred condescending and rude.
Hudson Furtado I think she just meant that using “honey” and “sweetie” wasn’t a good idea. Lots of people find that condescending if it’s a stranger calling them that, meaning they’d be less inclined to listen.
@@needtopoonow308 EXACTLY! Thank you! I work in customer service, where kindness is the number 1 priority and one of the first things they teach new people is to NOT use terms of endearment like that.
The first one makes me sick. The fact that she knew she wasn’t ok and went for help yet the doctors didn’t do shit.
They probably did and the family is just trying to shift the blame since they couldn't be bothered
She refused to take medicine because it made her foggy. There is deep documentation of this case.
Im just happy shes in a psych facility and not jail to make it worse. So sad.
I just had a baby and the first one made me so sick especially when he finally said exactly what she did.
I can't believe I found this video.. this is across the street from my house
The audacity debra has to call her child 'baby' after she absolutely stabbed them, already killing one and had one injured critical condition.
The first lady Otty lived 3 houses down from my uncles house here in s.a tx, and I remember the cops who arrived said it was so horrific. The cops requested to speak to a counselor or psychiatrist because out of the 20 something years, that they had served as police they never encountered what they had seen that day. It was a horrible scene and the fact that the hospital sent her home after she requested to stay there because she didn't trust herself with her baby. The system failed her and that newborn baby.
Yeah and the worst part about this is she's mentally ill so she's not 100% in control. She needed help and no one helped her
The system can only do so much. They just want the parents the chance to change. Sadly. Thats not always the case. Its people. We are the problem. Our actions
@@killawhale8319 we are not "people" when we are mentally ill. She knew that she was dangerous to the people around her and that she can't help herself. The system failed her, no one else.
Omg that's so sad
@@killawhale8319 She was mentally ill, not lazy or something. She asked for help, it got denied. What should she had done? It is not her fault at all.
I actually feel so sorry for the mother who ate her baby. When she comes to her senses and sanity... She has to live with what she did. Remember and visualize what she did. Oh my god. Horrific. Mental health is no joke and the mental health team at the hospital let her, her family and that baby down.
The system failed that baby she should have never been able to have a child when he was born he should have been given to a family member or a family that would've been mentally competent to take care of him.
@@Simplyblondie ur wrong.
@@angienagtalon9691 How so? You never gave an answer. She really isn’t wrong and I feel you may be a 8yr old on your moms account because what grown adult says “ur”.
@@angienagtalon9691 You can take your 8 year old self and try to act smart somewhere else because that line was so dumb lol. *"Ur wrong"*. Grow up lmfao
@@nova_ent.official come cuacha :)
The nerve of that mother being impatient over EMS/police not getting there fast enough cos SHE murdered her daughters. Just wow.
Her smugness made me have 0 sympathy for her unlike the first woman who was clearly in a bad state of psychosis and had lost it
I think shes also under psychosis the way she talk wasnt right, also she wouldnt call the police if she think what she done is rigjt
@@apdroidgeek1737 I highly doubt its psychosis. But obviously something else wrong
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ikr gross
Wow 😯 the last one really got me. You have a very nice, soothing voice. First time listening to you definitely subscribed.
“I don’t wanna get shot.”
And your daughters wanted to get stabbed?
Also that was 100% revenge against her husband. Her actions had nothing to do with saving the girls from pain. She wanted to hurt her husband.
Exactly how I saw it
How can a mother strike her kids with a knife! That saving them from pain is utter BS! I can't imagine a scenario being more painful than knowing your own mother is killing you, unless you're saving them for a more painful imminent death.
It's just her tryna self-rationalise her crazy thoughts
It's so sad how many mothers are not taken seriously when it comes to their mental health. She was begging for help but was brushed off. My heart goes out to Otty and her son and all others who have had similar tragedies happen
While she should have access to her medicine, she didn't want medicine when pregnant and she allowed herself to continue her pregnancy and kept the child despite her previous psychotic episodes. Bad decisions by everyone but she is not free from blame because of her illness.
@Menace To Society absolutely not that isn't what I'm saying. I was just pointing out the fact that mental health is not taken seriously enough. Obviously if you commit a crime you are the one responsible.
@@cosmicatkags mental health isn't just not taken seriously it's barely even considered important by people, especially the medical insurance companies.
@Menace To Society exactly yeah thats what I was trying to convey I'm not the best with words lol
because for some reason the mental strength to be a mother. it takes so much out of you
The debra dispatcher is an amzing person. The absolute horror she felt must have been so traumatizing. But she sounds like she is very experienced.
she ever called her sweety, im like whaaaat. she is definitely awesome at her job
I thought the same thing. She tried to killed her kids and succeeded in killing one of them, but her concern is over not getting shot and maybe saving her surviving daughter to reduce her sentence or something. Then she wants to cop a fucking attitude over being asked normal questions like ‘what’s your name’ and ‘how old are your kids?’ I’d have said something rude, at the very least, like ‘bitch, you stabbed your daughters and you think you can tell me how to do MY job? Maybe don’t fucking stab your kids if you don’t want to answer dispatch calls.’ I know I’d lose my job for that but seriously, it takes a special level of tolerance, patience, and self control to tolerate her.
Also the one on the third case, she heard the gunshot that caused 2 people to die and their body tumbling on the ground.