Rand Paul Has Testy Exchange With Postmaster General About Hiring More Despite Plummeting Revenues
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- At yesterday's Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) grilled Postmaster General Louis DeJoy about hiring.
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Why is DeJoy still in that position? Even ultra right wing Rand Paul is upset with him at this point. Get rid of him already.
I'm not defending him but just wonder who you think we should replace him with. Some lifetime appointed bureaucrat who has NEVER run a business and has little interest in efficiency. I think we have been doing that since the beginning of time and the post office has been hemorrhaging for decades and decades. 10 billion here... 8 billion there... another 10 billion a little while back. I kind of like the thought of a guy with EXTENSIVE experience in logistics and shipping. Congress should keep tabs on him and keep him straight but flat out get rid of him and replace him with a DC insider. Without a truly viable replacement that is a ridiculous idea. If you replace him with another savvy businessperson all this conspiracy stuff will just roll on and on. So we are probably stuck with 10 billion here... 8 billion there... another 10 billion a little while back. Fantastic idea. P.S. Rand Paul has the capacity to be upset with anyone. That's not a bad thing, it's how you keep things in line...
@@JeffLeasure -- Certain things are a necessary public service, and shouldn't be required to turn a profit, or be ultra efficient. Certain things need to have redundancy built into the system so that the system does not break down if a handful of employees had one location get sick or need surgery in an overlapping window of time, etc. Same reason that we have redundancy in staffing in hospitals.
And for people in certain parts of the country, the USPS is the only way they would get things delivered to them, because the big carriers don't go that last mile out into the sticks.
We don't need a bureaucrat for life, but we also don't need a businessman who stands to benefit in his own private business if he guts a public service like USPS. He has a clear conflict of interest.
@@TakenTook With all due respect. I think that's a load of crap. I'm sorry but I don't know what else to say. Let's take a guy with the strongest credentials for the job at hand, label those skills as a conflict of interest and replace him with who? Maybe we could pull someone out of Hollywood to handle the logistics. Who? First it was the (fully politically motivated) theory that "He was hired to subvert mail in voting in the 2020 election". If that's why he was actually hired I have to admit that he failed miserably at that task. But he did get rung through the wringer forwards and backwards over that BS propaganda. What's going on in this video is EXACTLY what should be happening. I used to get performance reviews on a yearly basis through most of my career. Completely normal. That's my opinion and I am not here to debate further. I vote for responsible, efficient government and won't be changing.
@@JeffLeasureDeJoy has his history in business. His personal investments give him an interest in seeing the postal service fail. The system ran better under a bureaucrat than it did under a corporate shill. DeJoy literally decommissioned and had destroyed, the machines that correlated mail. Machine worth a couple of million dollars. I’d take a career public servant, over DeJoy any day.
@@deviouskris3012 Apparently you though I said I wanted to debate when I said I'm not here to debate. I'll repeat... I think it's a load of crap and I AM NOT HERE TO DEBATE IT. End of story! Please understand that!
DeJoy is driving the USPS into debt, with less (too few) employees. Sounds like a Trump business expert.
He's using his own trucking company for Ground Advantage. Apparently no one thinks it's a conflict of interest.😅
Is he really?
Can't stand Rand Paul but even he sees that DeJoy is trying to destroy the Postal Service
The postal service has been a giant turd forever and ever and probably always will be! Dejoy didn't destroy anything!
He has no idea what he is doing. He is failing miserably. Replace him.
Management still treats employes like dirt.. that hasnt changed 1 bit
Yup
This
Gotten worst under Dejoy. Lying and ignoring is how they roll. There are no standards. Follow the equipment he rips out.
Too many chiefs, aka management that haven’t a clue what they’re doing OTHER then meeting those magic WORK number hours! Even if that means running the workforce ragged
Eliminating sorting machines was a big mistake. Appoint someone else.
I am 68 years old ...the Postal Service NEVER lost a piece of my mail EVER until de Stroy was appointed ...since he took over, 5 pieces of my mail
went missing.
DeStroy is the perfect nickname for him.
You are lying! How many letters have been found YEARS later! I worked for the postal service and had an invitation to a child’s birthday party come to me to be delivered WEEKS after the party! The cancellation stamp was over a month old. What about the long lost love letter that was found YEARS later
I just turned 69 and the post office has been screwing up my mail for freaking decades. From Colorado, to Washington State to California, Las Vegas and back to Colorado. Acting like Dejoy is responsible for this is ridiculous! I'm calling BS sir! Your full of it!
Louis DeJoy is a political appointment that bought his job. He has companies that make huge amounts of money on Postal Service contracts. He should have been fired a long time ago. He destroyed sorting machines that made the operation more efficient, changed delivery policies and hamstrung the USPS every chance he has had. Notice he is the Postmaster General and yet he sat there quietly and let someone else do his talking.
Trump appointte appointed to destroy the postal system on purpose and make it harder to vote by mail .
Ever heard the phrase, 'He threw a wrench in it?' DeJoy is the wrench. You can guess who the 'He' is. Clearly, they had their sights on destroying an American institution.
How did he "BUY" his job? More conspiracy theory from the 2020 election he was supposedly hired to subvert. GIVE ME A BREAK!
50 million hours less is probably why people aren’t getting their mail
Yes, but they are so inefficient with the funds they are already getting they might not need any to begin with according to what someone said several years ago. They are wasting billions of dollars.
"disposable people" says the blinking demon
turnover at postal service is very high
Hours and pay lol take away carreer and it will only get worse.
The USPS has been going down the toilet for at least 10 yrs. The last 3 have been atrocious! I can only trust overnight guaranteed delivery to arrive. I have several express packages that have never been delivered, from years ago. Fire the bosses & start over.
What makes it worse is when the time changes from 12 to 6 which is a disservice to the Customer that paid for it.
He's a Donald Appointee and he did not come highly recomended either. In fact he was not a very prominent consideration at all by most. Appointment was purely political
he is not appointed by the president. the pmg is appointed by a board of governors and can only be fired by a majority vote of the board of governors
He's not fit for the job as postmaster general
Blink if you're lying
Wow, your mailman is lucky, my mailman works 60 hours a week all year long.
60?! I work 70+.
Probably for less money now too.
If he's lucky he would be one that for the time being hasn't had hours cut but expected to do same job.
It was working fine before this guy took over. I used to sell on eBay and all packages started being delivered late! They removed any shipping discount for sellers of online products when this guy took over! They no longer guarantee the 2 day shipping on priority mail and it takes longer for my priority mail to get delivered than if I send it with a stamp. The price of renting a PO box is absolutely ridiculous! BIG huge fail!!!
How many millions is spent deliberateky impeding service!
This guy has got to go!
If the post office treated their carrier workers with respect, they wouldn't need to be hiring so many people. They also need to get rid of a lot of management. In our office they sat around playing on their phones, talking on their phones and doing absolutely nothing! what a waste of money.
I retired in 2022. And droves of people left because of the way they were treated
This guy talks like a mob boss, not a PMG. And this pension problem was NOT thrust upon them. Their union agreed to be represented by a staff agency. That agency agreed to the pension arrangements in place. And even after all the yelling and screaming, about how they are being forced to pay pensions ahead of time, they are still 100's of millions short of what it spent each year.
100%
The Postal Service Reform Act repealed the 75 year Retirement Plan so they received $5B money from that.
Your doing such a great job dejoy, thats why the post office is losing so much money
This man is a union buster. He never addressed over management .
Fire these corrupt state run facilities with corruption
Fire the government corrupt people get new ones in there that's going to run our country the right way
mail theft is a huge problem in Houston, postal inspectors have been cut back, and this crime is spreading
It's happening Nationwide because the USPS is still short staffed.
The Post Office is a disgrace! You mail bills depending on them.getting delivered and they never make it to their destination and I get charged a late fee! Also what about hiring veterns, seems like y'all don't do that anymore!
The whole system needs overhauled.
some of the worst postal employees I met were on college campuses
They do hire Veterans.
It has been designed to fail....for political profit.. and yes vets still working there and getting hired.
Once upon a time it was next to impossible to get on with the USPS unless you were a veteran. I took the Post Office exam in the late 70s and a few weeks later I got a letter the gist of which was "we had so many veterans take the test that we didn't even bother to grade yours". Today we have "we're hiring" signs on the back of every mail truck.
I would love to see his earnings and bonuses!!
When the younger Millennials & GenZ new hires realize that they are working for low pay & the pensions don't keep up with inflation, the'll be gone too.
Get 'em Rand. Been choosing to ship Fedex or UPS because of the lack of service and the higher costs, as well as the attitude of postal employees at USPS.
You get what you put in charge. Pathetic postmaster General. Then they raise the price of postage. What happened to next day delivery of Mail. Now it's a week, instead of next day.
Not only did he purchase expensive vehicles those vehicles have broken down. The machines at the new plant have broken down. He is focused on the packages, forget the mail. I know that for a fact. They need to show up with a subpoena at the plants he is building. They will be shocked at what they find.
Things (everything) breaks and wears out and everything needs maintenance and repair. It's been that way since the beginning of time and will be that way till the end. I get about three pieces of mail a year that might be important. Other than that, I am 100% electronic. The chore I hate the most in life is going to my mailbox to empty all the junk and trash mail. P.S. What will they find? You seem to be in the know.
And he had perfectly good existing mail sorting machines removed from buildings and destroyed. It's like he was trying to sabotage USPS on purpose, which is not that much of a conspiracy theory given that he would profit in his own private business of shipping without competition from USPS. He never should've been hired, and he needs to be removed.
@@TakenTook That was a conspiracy theory floating around before the 2020 election. The post office has been bleeding for decades. That was a complete scam conspiracy theory that he was placed there to sabotage the election. I'm not defending the guy but believe that is complete garbage based on politics. Good day!
I'm still waiting to know what it is I will be shocked about them finding when they show up with subpoenas at the plants he is building. It's amazing how you can make ridiculous claims but you won't back them up. I seriously want to know what you THINK they will find. Come on now....
What a joke the USPS is. Unprofessional attitude.
He appears as if he's a character from " The Sapranos". All that blinking makes it look like he's about to blow but can't in front of everyone.
Rand, UPS and FedEx don’t deliver to every mailbox 6 days a week. If you understand logistics there is your 20% more for labor.
Also, the entire business is about transportation. Most of the mail trucks are unsafe and we’re new in 1989 🤷♂️
Like all government jobs they have the best benefits package and no way to pay for it. The PO was once the only government department that was self supporting
Usps from a cca position. In the office if you let it the hostile environment settle it will exist, carriers millking routes for more money, management not competent to deligate or favoritism is greater. No proper training or guidance. Need to get rid of management positions that are not necessary or reduce number. Remove carriers that are not being productive, reliable or not dependable not sure of other crafts but management knows the carriers, the clerks, custodians, drivers, etc so I'm sure similar work environments exist. Usps should be an honorable Job to work for. Need to clean out house
I dont understand rand pauls argument
I don't either. There seems to be a lot of knee jerk emotional reactions in this comment section, but no real analysis. I don't know much about Dejoy, he may suck, but if he is saying he is hiring more people to stop having to pay the current people 1.5 times as much to do the same job (overtime), besides those employees being overworked, how does that not save the Post Office money? Rand Paul keeps bringing up pensions, but new hires aren't drawing from the pension yet, they're actually contributing to it, so how would that be hurting their current bottom line? At one point, Rand Paul brings up getting rid of unions and using contractors because that's what the private sector would do to solve this problem. Yet UPS has a massive union and they seem to be doing just fine. Again, I can't figure out where Rand Paul is going with this. I'm assuming lobbyists groups that have contracts with the Post Office are influencing Rand Paul's narrative, but I have no idea. I usually follow the money to find the answers to why politicians say and do what they do and the verdict is still out on Dejoy for me. I want make clear that I am not a supporter of Dejoy, but Dejoy and that other guy didn't do a good job and pushing back.
I don't approve of Dejoy or "Delivering for America" but yeah most of the new labor force for the USPS isn't contributing or drawing from the pension fund. In fact turnover is still the really big issue, with most new employees leaving within 60 days. Not only that but they are paying below market rate for labor in most places because they don't use prevailing wage.
He wants to pretend USPS is supported by taxation, not postage, so that he can help eliminate USPS and allow the business to be privatized, satisfying corporate donors. His entire argument is in bad faith. As a letter carrier I can tell you that he has no idea about our operations.
This rant is all about Rand Paul and all of his colleagues who have for a long time wanting to see the post office privatized. Big corporations will bid and the post office will be split up between them. They'll be split up between regions and the workers will get paid lower wages, eliminate pensions and unions, all while the corporate Executives make big money, and Rand Paul and his colleagues receive payouts. He's going on about high paying pensions? Doesn't he and his fellow career politicians have big pensions? Why do they always not want the people to have something the very thing that they feel so entitled to have? The post office has a large amount of minorities as employees. Not to mention the countless number of veterans who retire and go to work there. Yes it could use improvements. But do those and let the hard-working middle-class Americans who work for the Post Office be able to continue to work and when it's time for them to retire, collect their hard-earned pensions!!!
It's okay. Rand probably doesn't understand his argument either. He's never put in an honest day's work in his life. The last thing he would be able to comprehend is the taxing physical job that carriers, clerks and dock workers do every day for the postal service. He talks about numbers and doesn't care about people. Rand and people like him in power want to see the post office fail so it gives them a reason to privatize it. You think mail and package delivery is slow now? Wait until FedEx or UPS owns parts of the postal service. You'll be lucky to get mail three or four days a week. If you mail a mortgage payment (because the stamp is cheaper than the online charge they add if you pay it online) it could take weeks to get there. And don't expect to get mail delivered for free anymore. They'll charge you for home delivery or to rent out a box at a place of their choosing. If you live in a rural area, just forget about ever getting mail again because you're too far away for them to deliver it. You'll just have to figure out a way to do it yourself. Does the post office have problems? Yes. Are they fixable? Yes. Is what DeJoy doing going to fix them? No. He knows he's lying the entire time, that's why he's blinking and unable to look at the person he's speaking to the entire time. He just wants to kill the post office faster so the companies he has stocks in can start cannibalizing it.
The USPS by their own numbers, 60% of new hires quit in the first 30 days.
USPS SUCKS! I seldom get the mail I'm supposed to - according to informed delivery and it comes anywhere between 9am and 10:30pm. I avoid using it as much as possible because it's not trustworthy. I'm not the only one!
It's like an adult trying to explain a very simple plus/minus math problem to children. Their own self interest gets in the way.
..and I haven't gotten mail on time since you were hired!!!
Start holding these people financially responsible and they will change their approach when it comes to their own money.
You need more workers to handle the influx of packages.
How come NO ONE asked how much 3rd class letter mail was increases????
That is where the money is.
1st class stamps go up but never 3rd class .
Someone needs to find out where the USPS postal workers’ Pension Fund disappeared to years ago. It was moved, raided or something by someone(s) who could do such a thing & get away with it. I seem to remember it was in the 1980s.
Open up and scrutinize the books. Look at the numbers the numbers never lie.
My mail gets lost every day. Just this week, 3 customers who sent me checks in the mail had to cancel the checks and resubmit thanks to the post office. The banks love to charge cancellation fees. Just think about the millions if not billions this is costing Americans. Privatize the post office. Everything govt touches becomes unprofitable and goes into debt.
I sent a Birthday Card by US Postal Priority mail from Los Angeles, CA to Atlanta, GA. It took 6 days to get there. I'd rather pay UPS a little more but seems more efficient. I had only 1 mishap with a printer I ordered through E-Bay. UPS mixed my tracking # with another person in my town. I never got the pkg. so I cancelled payment at the bank and ordered it from Walmart. Only requirement for free shipping is $50 min. I got it in a couple of days. Love Walmart.
He need to be removed from Service. He's destroying the Postal service and Congress know it.
But yet they refuse to do there job .....
Get rid of this failure.
"FEWER". Not LESS, Thank you.
If the postal service want to save money, stop delivering mail on Saturday. I don't know why they are doing that.
Because We need 6 day delivery the Postal Service Reform Act guarantees that We have that to maintain a 40 hour work week.
@@arienfox Thank you for your answer. But didn't I hear that the postal service is hiring more people? everyone can work Mon-Fri for 8 hours and you will maintain the 40 hour.
@@user-tz1jr6kz9e That won't work because each craft has a different days off; Carriers are on a rotation off day schedule during the week besides I don't want to deliver three days worth of mail if I don't have to.
@@user-tz1jr6kz9e I'd keep the 6 day work week because I don't want to deliver three days worth of mail instead of two.
100% Mondays are horrible enough. Carriers get the brunt end of all the hate by everybody
They call these new hiring position(s). " Career positions" but never tell you these are PART TIME jobs that only guarantees "20 hours" a week until the day you show up for work. It took me 5 months from initially completing the application to my first day of orientation and not once did anyone specify this was a PART TIME job. I had never worked for the government neither an agency of the government, but, I have worked for many years in the private sectors. I can't think of one of these companies in my over 40 years of working that informed me I was a PART TIME employee on the day I came in to work. Had I known these were PART TIME jobs, I would have never gone on the website to even look at a job let alone file an application- I guess this could have saved the USPS a few pennies.
Ps.
I understand why He thinks he's deserving of a pat on the back. Because if anyone else was this incompetent or ran a business the way this is being run, they would probably lose not 2 billion but 20 billion.
This is what happens when you put power in the wrong hands.
Explain please? Otherwise your comment is useless. Not trying to be rude but please explain what you mean and your credentials to make that comment. Bet you can't do it.
Why don't any of these Senators question the conflict of interest with his companies?
If you ran your company like this moronic gov, you wouldn't have one.
remember though, the USPS is not government. It is supposed to be completely self funding.
@@mikeschumacher9715 hasn't balanced a budget in 30 plus years. And the gov keeps throwing money at it. Kicking dead horses is a common gov policy.
@@wydoesntexist The USPS is not supposed to be a profit center -- it is a basic function of government.
We need appoint a new Postal
Imagine this. Someone have to teach this person ( the one whose running the pension program) how a pension plan works.
You should blink more while you "tell the truth"
I got my mail reading civic why have my bill being lost each week
What exactly is Rand Pauls argument here? Maybe the 50 million reduced hours could be accounting for mail taking ungodly amounts of time to make it where it needs to be
The postal service is non profit.
Stutters when trying to use numbers.
More people but service is getting worse
He can't stop blinking holyshit
These people sure stutter a lot for being the best at their positions.
That accent explains everything!!
I can't hear you! 😂😂😂😂
Rand paul he is just rambling hahaha
Cut his pay to zero. Fix it then you get paid.
NWAs have infested the Postal Service and it's Union and many quality workers have quit and gone to work elsewhere.
Start opening Starbucks inside busy postal stations and that might help turn the organization around.
Dejoy will save money for the company. Rural carriers are taking a cut in pay twice a year when they have mail counts. How do they expect to retain carriers with a pay system such as this ?
Yeah, taking a cut but trying to do the same job. Less money 6 days a week instead of 5 .
I think they're trying to see who they can get rid of by exhausting them.
That's a lot of blinking
@@StevenJAckerman 🤣
Postal service has been losing money for decades, must be part of the federal government. Don't need a public hearing, provide a balanced budget or profit or be fired. If I were President I would give him one week for the plan or letter of resignation.
Well, then what is the solution? Criticism without a viable alternate solution is just that, criticism. If the Postal System has to have fair employment for its workers and the private industy does not then that is NOT a level playing field. The solution then is to make the private industry SUPPORT their employees with living wages not critize the one that is supporting the American workers instead of exploiting them.
Occupational vessels no bs about our and your lots smh
usps has the automation and ahould not require payouts to do a simple job
You n the private sector, all these clowns would have been fired day two.
What’s up with the blinking
More money with less service. Corrupt government manifest.
Our postal service has never come close to creating a profit since Benjamin Franklin. Or better yet...coming in even to the expenses. The government SHOULD NOT be in business with anything.
Can we all just agree that trump has the objectively worst history in appointing people?
We just sent ' another ' TRILLION dollars out of the country. ADD that to the cost of Illegals in the country and we just put the post in the black. Or we could take that money and subsidize Social security, pay off student loan debt. Our govt is a waste !
The postal service is still important to Americans. It's not as profitable as straight package delivery like UPS or FedEx but we still need it. If it requires some annual investment from the federal govt then there's nothing inherently wrong with that. The idea that it must be profitable on its own is just arbitrary. Look at all the crap the federal govt is currently spending billions on per year, e.g. wars that the American people don't want and that ultimately don't improve anything for anyone.
Sounds like Dejoy wants a parcel business only. Mail should only be 4 days a week if volume is that bad
he is a ceo with no out just do your thing an the hell with it.if you can't produce the hell with it an get paid blame the union (non union) 4 sure
Both of these guys are real jerks and don't treat people like they're real. They could care less they wanna run the post office out of business so private enterprise can take over and beat people into the ground with no overtime no pensions No benefitsPeriods
More packages and more people is his plan. Why not focus on mail with fewer employees and let package carriers handle package delivery?
good ole usps got 25million for was it 2016 or 2020 election year. why..... usps been bad and eirse ehen webt nonunion
A da ba da ba bbbbbaa ba da, ba ba ba!!! Jesus, come on!!!! Fire this joker!!
Stamps are going up again to 37 cents a stamp 😡😡
It's scheduled for $.73 for First Class delivery; The Forever Stamps you can always use no matter what the denomination is.
@@arienfox thank you I put the price down wrong by mistake I wish I wasn’t lol
I believe it's like 57 cents
@@SherryMooneyhan-md2gq You're welcome.
@@SherryMooneyhan-md2gq I don’t mail out much, if anything now, but some said to me the other day, “here, can you take this letter with a $0.73 stamp on it and take from Vermont to Alaska in 5 or less days?” Pretty sure you’d use up that $0.73 before you got to the end of your driveway. Just a little perspective.
how can a monopoly like the Post Office lose money every year?
at least this seemed like a legitimate argument instead of just typical bureaucratic bullshit deny deny i do no recalls
how is it no government speakers cant add the real cost of what they demand ?
I do not see how any of DeJoy's math adds up. Start with hiring/converting employees. Let's say, for sake of argument, that the average total pay package per new hire is per year to start. That includes hourly wages, AL, SL, TSP matching contributions, healthcare, etc. He states he has cut work hours by . Let's say the average hourly wage is .
So here's the math: (that'sfor new hires). He states he has cut work hours by (that's a savings of Now here is what I need explained...That's a loss in my book.
He cut overtime...woohoo. Overtime is fluid, it changes day-to-day, week-to-week, month-to-month, and year-to-year based on mail volume etc. There's also NO added cost(benefits) to overtime. Let's say the average hourly rate for OT is math again) assuming the 50 million hours cut were all at overtime rate and see if those numbers add up... (that's savings in OT). That's another loss in my book. That does not factor in that the only guarantee is that the pay package for each new hire is going to go up year by year (contract increases, step increases, COLA's, etc). Don't get me started on the mathematical genius of SDC's.
These guys smell corrupt
Rand Paul = no pensions. Drive your own vehicle by sitting in the middle of your personal car, straddling the pedals for 25 years, while delivering hundreds of packages. The Rural Carrier. Take care of those folks.
DeJoy + Paul = Small Change and no Coupons.
Do not pass go, do not collect $200 $$$$
Dejoy 30k less Career employees and 20k more full time??? Doesn’t make sense!
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I work at the post office and he’s intentionally dismantling the post office. Ships mail from one state or city to another. Mail is delayed because these post offices are overwhelmed because they have to work the mail they already have on top of mail from other states or cities. Overtime is cut out for a lot of these post offices to get the mail out on time and they’re letting people go.