The Chevalier d'Eon: the Trans 18th Century Spy

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  • @MsSjofn
    @MsSjofn Рік тому +654

    I kind of love that their mom was like "Yep, definitely born a girl." That just feels ... supportive to me.

  • @coop7506
    @coop7506 Рік тому +2779

    “A historical figure doesn’t have to be a good person to be queer”. Good reminder that we don’t have to idolize every queer historical figure - but we should still respect their queerness. It’s okay to find comfort/validity in their queerness without hailing them a saint. Thanks for another awesome video and congrats on the new cat!

    • @theloverlyladylo9158
      @theloverlyladylo9158 Рік тому +4

      I support queer rights and queer wrongs!

    • @yomi8063
      @yomi8063 Рік тому +41

      beautifully said

    • @willowmoon7
      @willowmoon7 Рік тому +100

      This still holds true, certain trans figures today are objectively terrible but still deserve to have their gender respected.

    • @Fwootgummi
      @Fwootgummi Рік тому +27

      Even saints aren’t perfect, no one is. Beyond their comments about Jewish people, which was wrong but typical for the time, I don’t really see what they did wrong. You have to understand people for the context they lived in. That’s true of people alive today and those who have long passed. Take what lessons you can from them but always understand that they’re flawed human beings all the same.

    • @elsakristina2689
      @elsakristina2689 Рік тому +13

      True that. I’ve definitely learned that while researching Queen Kristina of Sweden.

  • @kindofcl
    @kindofcl Рік тому +731

    d'Eon straight up lying about their agab is kind of iconic tbh

    • @ArtThingies
      @ArtThingies Рік тому

      All Gender Are Bastards
      🏳️‍⚧️🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵🏳️‍⚧️

    • @KdinIsHere
      @KdinIsHere Рік тому +20

      In my eyes, d'Eon didn't lie about their AGAB, they just had the opportunity and a vast toolbox of vocabulary and understanding characters in novels, I believe they started to see themselves as a character in a novel.

  • @decepticonne
    @decepticonne Рік тому +1005

    the moment d'Éon was treated as a woman she was labelled as too masculine - some things never change :/

    • @user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man
      @user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man Рік тому +23

      *they. We don’t know their gender, or their sex

    • @beepboopbeep4801
      @beepboopbeep4801 Рік тому +27

      ​@user-i-like-Doctor-Who we do know their sex. They were still biologically male. Their gender is a different story.

    • @olive981
      @olive981 Рік тому

      ​@@user-hanging-at-the-hanged-man9lll po0p😊😅😅😅😅😊⁰

  • @khrunchee9867
    @khrunchee9867 Рік тому +693

    I'm a simple man. I see Kaz Rowe uploaded, I click.

  • @bricksloth6920
    @bricksloth6920 Рік тому +787

    Ah yes, when the fates present you with a cat. They are rarely a cat you would have chosen if you were choosing a cat, but they're usually more interesting.
    Plus karma points for accepting the fates cat.

    • @meganrae2508
      @meganrae2508 Рік тому +21

      Yup, I was trying to get a different cat but the fates chose differently and gave me my purrfect kitten!

    • @bricksloth6920
      @bricksloth6920 Рік тому +24

      We have a thirty pound orange behemoth who was a present from the fates. We hadn't intended to get another cat, but we don't turn down the fates.

    • @andiroodzant2384
      @andiroodzant2384 Рік тому +8

      Truer words were never spoken.

    • @elle_rose_xx
      @elle_rose_xx Рік тому +7

      My first cat I adopted and just fell in love with him after seeing pics and when I got to meet him he just flopped over like ‘you may pet me now’ and I knew he was for me😂my younger kitty I wasn’t even meant to get but we had to buy her there and then or lose out completely so we bought her and got all the kitten supplies on the way home 😂

    • @genera1013
      @genera1013 Рік тому +6

      My two cats just showed up one night as kittens. Would I have chosen them myself? Probably not. That said, I wouldn't give my babies up for anything. I love them more than I can express and have literal nightmares about them being hurt or lost.
      They chose me, and I'm eternally grateful for it.

  • @Fwootgummi
    @Fwootgummi Рік тому +427

    Personally I don’t see what is so complicated about d’Éon’s gender identity. She didn’t want to wear women’s clothing and had good reason to want to continue wearing her uniform that she earned by serving her country, but she was pretty clear that she saw herself as a woman. Women’s clothing at the time was restricting, particularly for noble women, and it probably just didn’t suit her. We see other cis noble women who wear men’s clothing but still identify as women, as rare as it was. We see people like this today who just feel more comfortable presenting as they always have, but internally their sense of identity is different. They deserve respect all the same, not everyone has to transition or present like the societal ideal of their preferred gender identity. If I’m a downright fool, please feel free to tell me about it, but from where I stand it seems pretty clear cut.

    • @imperfectundertakervods
      @imperfectundertakervods Рік тому +20

      love this take

    • @ChiiroRavenheart
      @ChiiroRavenheart Рік тому +33

      She would probably been considered a tomboy if she was alive today

    • @henriiiii_1001
      @henriiiii_1001 Рік тому +54

      my guess is that it’s only complicated in terms of 18th century standards; its most likely due to them not having ambiguity in clothing and only assigned certain clothing accessories to men and women, unlike today where we recognize clothing as just neutral that anyone can wear. i definitely see ur point tho bc that is exactly what i was thinking listening to that part xddd

    • @TheTaiylorWallace
      @TheTaiylorWallace 11 місяців тому +19

      Absolutely agree. As an NB person raised female, I can add an angle. I wear almost exclusively classically masculine clothes, but I tend to lean classically "feminine" in the way I speak, act, and interact with people. I still consider women "my people" as well as genderqueer folks. Despite my dress style and some very classically masculine habits of carrying myself, and despite identifying much more with women, I am neither. Your clothes are an accessory to your identity as a person, but may not have anything to do with your sexuality or gender. Clothes don't have a gender, because you don't have to have a certain body part to use them. Men can wear bras and skirts. Women can wear suits and pants. Clothes are accessories, nothing more.

    • @booklet4003
      @booklet4003 11 місяців тому +9

      true but the idea of heaven being a genderless sexless place does seem to tie into her views and perceptions of gender as well even tho she just wanted to exist out of the strict french gender norms of the era

  • @Morbos1000
    @Morbos1000 Рік тому +180

    I like the decree at 11:15 being called "The Transaction" because it can easily be read as "The Trans Action", ie the royal action that officially made d'Eon trans!

    • @GaleForceKaif
      @GaleForceKaif Рік тому +4

      Yes! I literally came here to say that

  • @marionleblanc8580
    @marionleblanc8580 Рік тому +642

    I visited d'Eon's house a couple of years ago. In the little pamphlet I was given, the owners of the house (who I believe are the chevalier's indirect descendents), firmly denied the possibility of their transness, referring to d'Eon's apparent regret at donning women's clothes. I'm not surprised, as the chevalier complex identity defies the general population's understanding of transness, but it's really interesting to have the longer story from you, Kaz. Keep up the good work!

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real Рік тому +33

      Yeah, all forms of deviancy, crossdressing or just any forms of gender expression or identity that were outside of the norms of the time will be judged by a modern lens that might not be solely accurate to the time
      Pretty much anything before the concept of transness was codified is a bit of a gamble with a lot of guess work

    • @jungtothehuimang
      @jungtothehuimang Рік тому +60

      ​@@airplanes_aren.t_real I get what you're saying, but I think it's really unfortunate that stories like this one are so easily dismissed as being a misunderstanding of the time period. So much of our history has been erased, forgotten, or is just outright dismissed so I think considering stories like this as a potential part of our collective history is a good thing. Even if it's a complex story and we have no hard answers. There are many cishets historical figures we have to infer much about as well. This isn't a dig at you btw, just wanted to throw my opinion in the hat too.

    • @carlosbracho876
      @carlosbracho876 Рік тому +5

      Like the Rose of Versailles, but backwards.

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real Рік тому +12

      @@jungtothehuimang oh yeah I agree with that, I wasn't trying to dismiss these trans stories and histories, they are intrinsic to understanding our experiences, I was mostly trying to be cautious about this, it's very easy for people to box themselves into a singular perspective and see the rest of the world through those lenses with little nuances
      I'm often reminded of a preserved mummy they found atop a mountain that was killed by an arrow to the back (Don't remember the name they gave him) because in a video talking about it someone commented "imagine if this guy burned down an entire village, someone ran after him for revenge, killed him with an arrow and now people are sympathizing with his corpse"
      Since we can't know for sure weather or not these people were trans(although we can make reasonable assumptions based on what they left behind) it's best to see this with an open mind

    • @jungtothehuimang
      @jungtothehuimang Рік тому +12

      @@airplanes_aren.t_real you know, you brought up a good point that I never really thought of, about the man on the mountain. That's a perspective I never even considered before. Thanks for sharing it with me.
      With any history it is a bit of a guessing game and in truth there are things we simply won't ever know, and that's kind of what makes the past so fascinating to research.
      I think even if we can't ever know if a figure in history would have considered themself queer or not, it's still uplifting to know that centuries ago there were people out there who felt similar feelings and lived similar lives to us.
      Thanks for responding. Sorry if I came across in a rude way at all, it wasn't intentional.

  • @iridescentdemon
    @iridescentdemon Рік тому +276

    it's so fascinating to see an 18th century religious framing of nonbinary gender feelings
    ALSO love the kitty!!!

    • @IceFireofVoid
      @IceFireofVoid Рік тому +35

      It's really an interesting philosophy but tragic that it's so entangled with antisemitism and misandry.

  • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
    @LadyTylerBioRodriguez Рік тому +84

    Not going to lie, hearing that D'Eon felt trapped by womens clothing after living for so many decades as a male but deep in there heart felt female was touching and sad in equal measure. Born in the right era to understand what they were, but too early to experience better rights for women.
    Seeing how everyone wrote about this individual to this day, trying to lock them in a nice little box and the horrible disrespect upon passing, it kinda made me tear up.
    (Also I've learned to not even check what historical figures thoughts are on Jews. Its like almost always bad. Looking at you William Lloyd Garrison)

  • @jennyloop7949
    @jennyloop7949 Рік тому +323

    transness and queerness is so complex no matter what time period and that’s so interesting to me. lovely video as always!

  • @jaysea802
    @jaysea802 Рік тому +188

    A video with a kitty?!?! It’s like the cat distribution system has blessed us all, too 🥰

  • @basementdwellercosplay
    @basementdwellercosplay Рік тому +228

    I'm working on an essay proposal for my history methods class. It's on how people keep denying people like James Barry, Charley Parkhurst, and Billy Tipton as transmen and how disrespectfulit is to past and current transpeople. And how these transmen aren't cross dressers like Hannah Snell or Deborah Sampson who dressed as men to go fight in war. I came across d'eon but no offense to d'eon but they'd deserve more time and space than I had. Still seem like a dope subject to research. Also love the little meows in the back, it's so serotonin filling

    • @milesamillionandone
      @milesamillionandone Рік тому +11

      I wish I could read your work when it's done! Good luck. That's a really important subject.

    • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
      @LadyTylerBioRodriguez Рік тому +12

      Question is this essay going to also include Albert Cashier the trans man who fought the Confederacy under Grant and kicked ass? Cashier is interesting because at first glance it appears like a war cross dressing story, but then he just... stayed as a man after the war until he was near dying.

    • @yusinu6642
      @yusinu6642 11 місяців тому +2

      But Deborah Sampson's situation is interesting because we don't know that if she hadn't been found out whether she would have remained a man. I haven't read any thing she may have wrote on her feelings about the whole topic, but I've always found it a bit possible that she may have been more than just a crossdresser.

  • @KdinIsHere
    @KdinIsHere Рік тому +31

    on a side note they fenced against Joseph Bologne twice once as a 'man' and once as a 'woman' which is quite remarkable and they even have a picture of them both fencing which is sort of a surprise for it's time. A Black Chevalier fencing with a Trans Chevalier is sort of something that seems very progressive and feels sort of fictional compared to this era, the sense that it is radical.

  • @Chronoplague
    @Chronoplague Рік тому +156

    d'Eon reminds me of many transfem eggs. "Women are just so cool, right!? Like they're sooo much better than men!" Also reminds me of trans women from conservative backgrounds (and have typically come out layer in life) who are shocked to discover that misogyny still exists and now affects them.

  • @seraphinasullivan4849
    @seraphinasullivan4849 Рік тому +96

    One of my favorite trans historical figures is Princess Seraphina (and not just because we share a name ^-^) because as far as history and social class go, she was kind of a nobody. The only records we really have of her are a court case where she (presenting as a man) sued a guy for stealing her masc clothes and a mention of her in a last confession. She lived with friends, a married couple she nursed through an illness, and among them she was herself and didn't have to wear this man persona society expected of her.

    • @cannibalisticrequiem
      @cannibalisticrequiem Рік тому

      @ville__ Is this fulfilling? Is your life so nonexistent that you derive pleasure wasting your own time by copy+pasting this comment repeatedly thinking that you're dunking on trans and nonbinary people for showing us you're just like every other pathetic edgelord who's miserable? You're never getting your wasted time back.

    • @Jay_Bird123
      @Jay_Bird123 Рік тому

      @ville_ what the fuck

    • @thisisvoided
      @thisisvoided Рік тому +1

      wtf@ville__

  • @IceFireofVoid
    @IceFireofVoid Рік тому +218

    I want to say, as someone whose first language is french, that the topic of gender is even more confusing in situations like this than it seems for someone who comes from a gender neutral language like english. French is a HEAVILY gendered language. All inanimate objects even have genders and the gender of something alters the spelling of nearly every word referring to it in a sentence. There is no gender neutral pronoun in french and the idea of something being neither male nor female would be a concept particularly hard to grasp in the 1700s in France where even a chair is female. It is possible that the reason they wanted to be a woman despite not entirely feeling comfortable as one is because they knew they were not a man, and culturally, there was nothing else but those two options.

    • @IceFireofVoid
      @IceFireofVoid Рік тому +2

      @Villealt So true, bestie 🔥🔥

    • @quillencre8719
      @quillencre8719 Рік тому +9

      That's an amazing point

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln Рік тому +1

      Isn't _on_ gender-neutral? When I studied French, we were taught that it's equivalent to "one," as in "One would think."

    • @IceFireofVoid
      @IceFireofVoid Рік тому +5

      @emilyrln "on" is "us" or "we". Idk who taught you it was equivalent to one but they are wrong. It is synonymous with "nous", though used in different contexts, which is the first person plural.

    • @IceFireofVoid
      @IceFireofVoid Рік тому +10

      @emilyrln The proper equivalent to "one" in the sense you are looking for would be "quelqu'un", which is masculine. In French, masculine is used when referring to someone of unknown gender or a crowd of people which comprises men and women. There isn't a separate gender neutral term or conjugations.

  • @darkseid1975
    @darkseid1975 Рік тому +81

    Okay, the phrase 'Mila your womb is going to be so barren" is beyond amazing. You win.

  • @103Isa
    @103Isa Рік тому +152

    your channel is literally my favorite rn, it means so much to learn about LGBTQ+ history and you tell it so well!!!! also not only queer but history as a whole, you always bring topics that enlighten so much about ages past that we don’t understand and/ or are full of misconceptions (looking at you victorians making shit up about the middle ages)
    keep it up ily please marry me

    • @SewardWriter
      @SewardWriter Рік тому +20

      This! It's especially nice for me to have a queer Jewish perspective on history. It's common for Jew-hate to be brushed aside, and for historians to say, "That's just how it was!" even when they denounce other forms of racism. (Antisemitism is the last acceptable form of racism. I will die on this mountain.) For Kaz to not only focus on queer history, but to call hatred what it is, makes me very happy.

  • @LikeTheProphet
    @LikeTheProphet Рік тому +27

    “I have been chosen by the cat distribution system” bless

  • @asstrid_
    @asstrid_ Рік тому +59

    I first heard of the Chevalier from the videogame Assassin's Creed Unity. They're a quest giver and I always thought that it was cool the developers included their character but never dug more into it, so thanks for the video!! Great as always :))

    • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
      @LadyTylerBioRodriguez Рік тому +9

      My introduction as well. Which is why I was semi confused when Syndicate said they had the first trans character. I was like wait a minute doesn't Chevalier D'Eon count? Yes, yes they do.

    • @asstrid_
      @asstrid_ Рік тому +3

      @@LadyTylerBioRodriguez omg you're right!! I've never thought about it, that's weird

    • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
      @LadyTylerBioRodriguez Рік тому +2

      @@asstrid_ All in all it was a reasonably fair portrait of D'Eon going by Assassins Creed standards.

  • @kagitsune
    @kagitsune Рік тому +24

    It sounds to me like Lady Oscar from the manga/anime Rose of Versailles might have actually been more inspired by this person (and their retconned fictional autobiography) than the usually-speculated Julie Daubigny. Thank you for this overview, Kaz!

  • @dmikewilcox
    @dmikewilcox Рік тому +26

    That was a very balanced and well researched presentation. I am am old fart, but I am not to proud to admit that there are a lot of young folk UA-cam educators, who really open my mind.
    My big gray boy cat is name Hercules Mulligan. I used to tease him about him being sans sacks, but now I realize he is valid and wonderful as he is. He is my big gray enforcer, pushing us around like a Pinkerton detective, who likes to cuddle a lot.

  • @wolfcrisp
    @wolfcrisp Рік тому +12

    I'm glad this is a community of people who like history and aren't weird about it like the guys obsessed with world wars and civil wars
    I found Kaz on the western video and since then I have been loving this channel
    Great work Kaz!

  • @mythcat1273
    @mythcat1273 Рік тому +25

    Finally a chevalier d'eon video. I feel like I've been asking for so long

  • @robsyers8647
    @robsyers8647 Рік тому +41

    An incredibly interesting topic, packed with questions and a historical figure I have never heard of, AND a cute cat? This show has it all! Thanks so much.

  • @cRazYhYPerPenGuin
    @cRazYhYPerPenGuin Рік тому +12

    THE LITTLE MEWING IN THE BACKGROUND😭😭😭

    • @abyssosque
      @abyssosque 10 місяців тому

      🤫🧏‍♀️

  • @ellaeadig263
    @ellaeadig263 Рік тому +16

    I love that their mother accepted their gender, even if it meant lying about their assigned gender at birth. She was probably trying to be the best parent she could by accepting her child unconditionally.

  • @meganrae2508
    @meganrae2508 Рік тому +34

    Congratulations on being chosen by the CDS! I love that your new baby just wants to be held. Or just wants to be on camera because she knows she’s a star? 😻

    • @Bildgesmythe
      @Bildgesmythe Рік тому +4

      She wants her own channel, she's a cat.

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln Рік тому +1

      "Parental unit speak, so I speaks!" 😂

  • @CleoHarperReturns
    @CleoHarperReturns Рік тому +34

    So glad to see you pop up Kaz! Congratulations on your new kitty. As I've just lost the Dog of My Life it feels good to see someone at the beginning of their journey together. Can't wait to dig into this video. Your in-depths have the best way of completely distracting me, and I need that now more than ever. Please don't ever doubt that what you do matters. It matters so much.

    • @ashleyboots3386
      @ashleyboots3386 Рік тому +3

      Hey, just wanted to say I'm sorry for your loss. Our fur babies are really special, and I hope you feel some comfort knowing you had the time together that you did. 💙

    • @CleoHarperReturns
      @CleoHarperReturns Рік тому +6

      @@ashleyboots3386 Thank you Ashley. Grief being nonlinear, I've been shuffling through the emotions like a deck of cards. However because his ashes came home today it's made me feel a bit better, knowing he's back where he belongs -- with me. Thank you for being so sweetly supportive of a total stranger. It helps to remember that there are good people in this world. I really appreciate your kindness.💜

    • @SewardWriter
      @SewardWriter Рік тому +4

      I'm sorry about your pupper. (HUG) May his memory be a blessing. 💖

    • @CleoHarperReturns
      @CleoHarperReturns Рік тому +4

      @@SewardWriter Aww, thank you so much. He was and will always be my greatest blessing.

    • @ashleyboots3386
      @ashleyboots3386 Рік тому +4

      @@CleoHarperReturns I'm happy to have helped in any small way.
      My own pupper has canine epilepsy and myoclonus, and while she's thankfully 20+ months seizure-free and a very spoiled and happy being, I'm keenly aware she won't live as long as average. If possible, I plan to incorporate some of her ashes after she passes into tattoo ink, then get a tattoo of her over my heart. That way, when I too pass from this mortal plane and am cremated, we'll be together forever.
      I hope today grants you ease and happiness. 💙

  • @Starwildchild1
    @Starwildchild1 Рік тому +10

    I’m having such a crappy day today. I’m physically, mentally, and emotionally spent. Thank you for posting your always entertaining and informative content. I needed these 33 mins today.

  • @ellasinquiries
    @ellasinquiries Рік тому +98

    I absolutely adore the chevalier, thank you for highlighting this amazing piece of trans history! And congratulations on the cat distribution system choosing you! My 18-year-old distribution system cat sends his love

  • @AmandaNievi
    @AmandaNievi Рік тому +8

    New Kaz video uploaded 20min ago AND i get rewarded with a new kitty in the first seconds?!?! The universe smiled upon me!

  • @clurbur1711
    @clurbur1711 Рік тому +5

    The Chevalier d’Eon anime makes so much more sense to me now!

  • @RavenMelonai
    @RavenMelonai Рік тому +16

    So glad the cat distribution system has brought you an adorable housemate! Thanks for the video, what a wild ride!

  • @Tsotha
    @Tsotha Рік тому +41

    Yet another interesting historical personality whom I would never have heard of were it not for you Kaz!

  • @CatbaronAle
    @CatbaronAle Рік тому +6

    Idea: supurrviser in a cat bed by or near your shoulder during your lecture segments. The bed (and maybe eventually the kitty too?) can sport thematic elements to your topic.
    Wonderful video as always. I adore and appreciate your dedication to describing not only the sources but the context in which the sources were made. As well as their treatment and context over time. For historical figures especially it’s so important to not only know what they did but how we interpreted what they did over time. Thank you for all your hard work! ❤

  • @naurrr
    @naurrr Рік тому +11

    I watched the anime very loosely inspired by d'Éon's life and it was not very historically accurate but definitely an incredible show!! highly recommend it.
    it made me look up the actual details and history of d'Éon and it was so interesting. thanks for covering this!

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Рік тому

      At least it wasn't weird like Alexander anime

    • @stella-vu8vh
      @stella-vu8vh Місяць тому

      what's the shit called

  • @inr63
    @inr63 Рік тому +13

    Congratulations on your new baby!! 😻

  • @SniffanyBlues
    @SniffanyBlues Рік тому +4

    Hearing the baby in the background healed something in me. Thank you

  • @courtgodley7789
    @courtgodley7789 Рік тому +1

    hearing a cat meowing in the background of the video as a cat parent kept me giggle so much, adds to the video 100%. awesome vid as always!

  • @adroy4169
    @adroy4169 Рік тому +23

    Loving the fact that you make better work about french history than some french videasts (youtubers ?) thank Kaz and welcome to your feral pet !

  • @Prizzlesticks
    @Prizzlesticks Рік тому +7

    Oh my goodness, Mila (Meela? Mewla???) is so heckin cute. I love how chatty she is, like she hears her person make mouth noises and has to join in. Precious. Please consider matching costumes, I would die.

  • @mint_marigold1229
    @mint_marigold1229 Рік тому +3

    Mila's commentary on this topic was insightful, poetic, and much appreciated. You should consider having her as a co-writer/researcher on a future video!

  • @lyledal
    @lyledal Рік тому +3

    "Don't chew on that."
    I live with 3 cats, and I can tell you that you'll be saying "don't chew on that" a *lot.* Enjoy your new housemate! Also, the video was amazing as always!

  • @AshLG
    @AshLG Рік тому +4

    I’m working on a game set in the 1820s with a friend and he keeps finding that people just have random portraits of the Chevalier d’Eon in their homes. Like, for no reason, they just thought they were neat. I knew about them but didn’t anticipate they were such a celebrity

  • @Prettykittychimi
    @Prettykittychimi Рік тому +29

    Aww congrats what a gorgeous kitten!! I was actually denied adopting a cat just today! I’ve been a cat lady for 41 years and have worked in the vet field for 13 of those and have rescued 6 cats. I probably gave birth to that cat in a past life, they’re insane to deny me. Anyway, I’m glad a kitty showed up in your life and sorry for using your UA-cam comment section to vent. I love your videos, I feel smarter after watching them!😊

    • @Romanticoutlaw
      @Romanticoutlaw Рік тому +1

      on the upside, it's generally not too terribly hard to find and trap a feral kitten in most places, just so long as you get the mama too to spay her, which I'm sure I don't need to tell you 🤭

    • @Cat_Woods
      @Cat_Woods Рік тому +4

      What reason did they give for denying you?

    • @Bildgesmythe
      @Bildgesmythe Рік тому

      I tried to adopt a dog, was refused, don't know why. I did find a puppy. She was my best friend and best dog ever. I had her for 13 of the best years ever. Maybe fate has a cat waiting for you.

    • @Cat_Woods
      @Cat_Woods Рік тому

      @@Bildgesmythe I didn't think one could be refused without being given a reason, and I thought the reason would have to be an established policy, rather than the whim of whoever was working. Otherwise, people could be denied based on hair color or any number of personal biases. I'm really surprised to find out people can be denied without knowing why.

  • @charlenegodard564
    @charlenegodard564 Рік тому +5

    Kaz's cat! Congratulations, and welcome to your new life, Mila!
    I read about the Chevalier some time ago, fascinating story. I was wondering when you would cover it, so glad you did. History has so many surprises, doesn't it? Keep the stories coming, Kaz, you're doing a great job!

  • @tiredoftrolls2629
    @tiredoftrolls2629 Рік тому +2

    I saw this AND you on the PBS Origins. Clicked both to watch back to back!

  • @natalietipsword9677
    @natalietipsword9677 Рік тому +4

    Yoooo new Kaz video just dropped!!!

  • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
    @LadyTylerBioRodriguez Рік тому +2

    Yeeeeey. Ever since you did the Julia episode I've been hoping for a Chevalier D'Eon video. I mention this fascinating human so often when someone asks me about historical trans people. Hurrah Hurrah!

  • @jeremysmith4620
    @jeremysmith4620 Рік тому +29

    Even with the cat consuming your time, the fit is still immaculate, as always. I hope the cat also gets matching era appropriate outfits for every video.
    I demand vintage fancy cat!!!
    I will settle for pretty much anything else to be honest, like the occasional off screen meow. Demand is a strong word, but a vintage fancy cat is a strong concept.

  • @naorivas
    @naorivas Рік тому +2

    So happy I get a new Kaz video to watch to calm down my nervous system after an overwhelming day. 😊

  • @aidanfarnan4683
    @aidanfarnan4683 Рік тому +7

    Kaz's Kat: "Meow meow meow meow meow!"
    Me "ah, yes good point."

  • @christiana1218
    @christiana1218 Рік тому +11

    I also came into caring for a loud brown tabby girly and she hates being held but she's the best thing that has ever happened to me. Cats are the real heart of the home ngl. also love the video :)

  • @AshMonster2D
    @AshMonster2D Рік тому +2

    Just when I thought I couldn't love your channel more, you pull my kitty-loving heart-strings! Congrats on being chosen, Kaz!

  • @gwenndolyncampbell1560
    @gwenndolyncampbell1560 Рік тому +3

    Sweet baby kitty! Congratulations! Also good video, I've been binging your videos while knitting this month and it's been great. Thank you for uploading. :)

  • @kyonkochan
    @kyonkochan Рік тому +31

    Chevalier D'eon is one of my "go tos" when people ask why to bother to learn history. So much stuff echoes through time and the modern "debate" about trans rights shows how it's not so much about people actually wanting to constructively understand gender identity. They just want to force through what they think is proper gendered behaviors without consideration for their own hypocrisy and "queer" behaviors. A great example to me is the "Ship of Theseus" that is domestic cooking and how it's gone from something a man should shun to being unthinkable a man can't cook at least some food for his family.

  • @charlottewalling6059
    @charlottewalling6059 Рік тому +6

    I literally named myself after d'Eon what an icon ty for this Kaz

  • @tinkergnomad
    @tinkergnomad Рік тому +2

    I just watched the PBS Origins video, then saw this. Honestly makes me wonder about YT logic, because I'm pretty consistent in my behaviors. Congrats on the kitty! Happy Birthday!

  • @lillysora
    @lillysora Рік тому +1

    Great video as always, side note, your new cat is almost identical to my sisters cat whom recently passed, her name was Beatrix and answered to Trixie, she was in her 20’s when she passed and may yours live longer than that giving you many happy years together.

  • @cybers1utx
    @cybers1utx Рік тому +11

    currently eating mc donald’s in a elementary school watching kaz rowe

  • @justafallperson2108
    @justafallperson2108 Рік тому +4

    New cat mom! You get used to the gremlin energy. Great video!

  • @EgburtEgg
    @EgburtEgg Рік тому +2

    Oh my god!!! New Kaz Rowe video and it's about the Chevalier d'Eon!!!!!!

  • @pbkathleen
    @pbkathleen Рік тому +2

    YESS i've been waiting for someone to talk about chevalier d'eon !!

  • @Geospasmic
    @Geospasmic Рік тому +1

    I enjoyed Mila's contributions to the discussion of this very interesting figure of history.

  • @alessandrapaganinileal5291
    @alessandrapaganinileal5291 Рік тому +3

    This is literally the BEST birthday gift ever!!❤❤❤🎉🎉

  • @herpsderps9205
    @herpsderps9205 Рік тому +2

    I may be stoned but "two can play that game, Gary" is now a meme in my headcanon

  • @JeraWizard
    @JeraWizard Рік тому +4

    Your vest is rad, I always love your outfits!! And welcome to the Young One, the cat distribution system does what it do best
    Ty for the video! :D

  • @sonicclip21
    @sonicclip21 Рік тому

    KAZ!!! a video on the crystal skulls would be so cool, i’ve always been fascinated by them

  • @notoriousgucci1
    @notoriousgucci1 Рік тому +2

    I appreciate your credits kitty time! Though I do love the old film clips you usually incorporate ❤

  • @leicean
    @leicean Рік тому +3

    Mila meowing periodically is so cute

  • @jabbermocky4520
    @jabbermocky4520 Рік тому +14

    Welcome, Mila! My, what a lovely meow you have. 🐱

    • @Valfara770
      @Valfara770 Рік тому +2

      Yes! Those little "meow"s in the background are sooooo adorable. :)

  • @mscrabson
    @mscrabson Рік тому +4

    Oh! When I was a little kid I read a fiction boom about them and completely forgot about it. Memory is restored!

  • @saulemaroussault6343
    @saulemaroussault6343 Рік тому +2

    THANK YOU for this 💚
    Also : Hi Mila ! Welcome here 💚 my cats were very intrigued by the meows.
    A friend of mine also has a tabby cat named Mila. They’re a very fierce cat, except when it’s Cuddle Time. Then they are a Big Purring Baby for like 30 minutes.

  • @beverlycox6044
    @beverlycox6044 Рік тому +1

    Congrats on being chosen by the cat distribution system. Mila is gorgeous. Look in to something called Feliway. They have collars, wall plug in diffusers, sprays etc. It mimics a hormone their mothers produce. It helps keep them calm.

  • @jenniferlevine5406
    @jenniferlevine5406 Рік тому +1

    Wow - that story was way more complex than I thought it would be. But it's good because it is so important to keep conversation going. Human nature is complex. Maybe it is time to stop trying to simplify us. Thanks for presenting this story so clearly. I really enjoyed this video! Your new cat is adorable!

  • @darkmatterburger
    @darkmatterburger Рік тому +2

    I love that you can hear the cat over the soundtrack!

  • @DinoDectective19
    @DinoDectective19 Рік тому

    hearing the little precious meows in the background !! ugh my heart 🥹🥹

  • @shellyhill6804
    @shellyhill6804 Рік тому +5

    Incredible episode and the last two minutes made me lol. Congrats on your new daughter from me and my own furbabies. Love your channel.

  • @the.armstrongs
    @the.armstrongs Рік тому +7

    Lol the cat cries are on point. Mine does the same thing.

  • @creepycutiecrafty
    @creepycutiecrafty Рік тому +4

    Very interesting. I think it’s very much of note that in spite of the difficulties and limitations that d’Eon complained about in their experience of presenting as feminine, they still wanted to be recognised as female. I think that that definitely underlines the fact that living in a Transgender identity is neither easy nor a choice.
    I also like the discussions about “being Trans” and how people have for so long attempted to fit cases into clearly separated pigeonholes. Whatever d’Eon was, maybe it doesn’t need definition. They were what they were - and I’m fairly sure they knew themselves a darn sight better that any set of academics arguing over centuries old remnants and clues.
    Also, love the new trash baby! The cat distribution system has made the right choice!

    • @uarestrong76
      @uarestrong76 Рік тому +2

      Inversely I found their whole thing hella relatable cuz like I adore the feminine arts, feminine politics and feminine dress and yet I am a male. Like in my head. My brain tells me that my body is male should be male should have a penis etc. But I'm AFAB. 😶 it's a wild thing bc the day I accepted this part of myself was the day that the howling black hole in the back of my soul went quiet.

    • @creepycutiecrafty
      @creepycutiecrafty Рік тому +1

      @@uarestrong76 that makes sense. Like all of these things, trying to live up to the expectations outlined by “disinterested observers” (those people that create the labels and definitions) can be incredibly harmful, while being allowed the time to look at one’s self and recognise what is actually there can bring great calm.

  • @sarahwatts7152
    @sarahwatts7152 Рік тому +2

    Also someone with an outsized personality: Kaz' adorable bundle of chaos

  • @tamarkeane2073
    @tamarkeane2073 Рік тому

    I was at IMMA today, the Irish Museum of Modern Art in Dublin, Ireland and saw your book in the gift shop. Congrats! So happy to see your work as far as Ireland. ❤

  • @Mavisdundundunnnmanston
    @Mavisdundundunnnmanston Рік тому +1

    Hi, Mila! Kaz of course comes out with a video to make me stop stressing over ww3.

  • @GEInman
    @GEInman Рік тому +2

    I Wondered when you would deal with d'Eon! Here it is; I'm so glad.

  • @buttercupjude135
    @buttercupjude135 Рік тому +2

    your cat is adorable aaaah (also excellent video as always!)

  • @itheone9450
    @itheone9450 Рік тому +1

    Kaz, would you ever consider doing a more simplified type of video? I love to listen to these when the ol' chronic illness takes hold but some of the language can go a bit over my head when unwell. I think a "dumbed down" discussion of historical events would be really fun with your video style!

    • @lulucool45
      @lulucool45 Рік тому +1

      have you tried watching with subtitles/in parts/slowed down?

  • @pivoine3176
    @pivoine3176 Рік тому +1

    Two videos with Kaz in one day AND a cat? We are truely blessed.

  • @gettacorn
    @gettacorn Рік тому +2

    Omg cat parent Kaz is what I didn't know I needed, love this interesting video and the cat moments

  • @brandymabry3995
    @brandymabry3995 Рік тому +1

    Congrats on the new kitty! They really do improve life and are so adorable!

  • @johnhudson9011
    @johnhudson9011 Рік тому +1

    I just discovered your channel 4 days ago. I have literally watched all of your content…
    I know you’re tired but I’m gonna need you to pick up the pace… 😂
    Love your content!

  • @hilarymoonmurphy
    @hilarymoonmurphy 8 місяців тому

    This is one of my favorite historical figures. Thank you for this in-depth coverage. ❤

  • @polinaignatenkova3634
    @polinaignatenkova3634 10 місяців тому

    12:34 some real Oratrice Mechanique d'Analyse Cardinale energy there

  • @Spineless-Lobster
    @Spineless-Lobster Рік тому +1

    I remember reading up about them during history class because we were learning about ancient egypt and I was bored lmao
    I really loved this deeper dive into their life! I’d also like to note that I share a birthday with them lol

  • @evanames5940
    @evanames5940 Рік тому +1

    Thank you as always. I have come across they in reading but never had the inclination to research further. Again, thanks for making me a tad bit smarted.

  • @ZandrousVT
    @ZandrousVT Рік тому +2

    Ahh, I wondered when we'd get to The Chevalier d'Eon. It's an interesting topic. Glad you got around to it.
    Also, I see you my fellow March baby. 😁

  • @writt8870
    @writt8870 Рік тому

    I was just a few weeks ago researching d'Eon for my AP2D inquiries for this year so this was greatly needed :) another great video!

  • @TheDumdei
    @TheDumdei Рік тому

    Welcome to the channel, Mila! I love your adorable face and fingerless glove style paws.