[1487] Unusual Feature in UltraLoq Smart Lock

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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  • @rtr5301
    @rtr5301 Рік тому +4432

    This man can take a whole lock apart faster than I can open my front door

    • @rincx329
      @rincx329 Рік тому +174

      Imagine if he didn't take the time to explain what he is doing.

    • @guerzoniansus7163
      @guerzoniansus7163 Рік тому +5

      And your girlfriend's backdoor too

    • @myrlyn1250
      @myrlyn1250 Рік тому +82

      And picks the lock almost as fast as using a key...

    • @leow.2162
      @leow.2162 Рік тому +18

      Maybe get a different lock

    • @BanjoZZZ
      @BanjoZZZ Рік тому +27

      Why do you presume he's human?

  • @quokka_11
    @quokka_11 Рік тому +801

    Inviting LPL over for dinner: "We'll leave the door locked for you."

    • @petergrunendahl2074
      @petergrunendahl2074 Рік тому +44

      ...and you can hear him coming. Nothing at one... :-)

    • @dravendarkplays9607
      @dravendarkplays9607 Рік тому +26

      @@petergrunendahl2074 false set on two

    • @gallium-gonzollium
      @gallium-gonzollium Рік тому +36

      “and we got this open… oh wait… WRONG HOUSE WRONG HOUSE”

    • @exorcize
      @exorcize Рік тому +38

      *unlocks door* "Let me do that again so you can see that it was not a fluke"

    • @IronCrown
      @IronCrown Рік тому +17

      "Door's locked, come in!"

  • @SteveBarna
    @SteveBarna Рік тому +6171

    Lockpicking Lawyer: Wow what an unusual anti bump countermeasure! Very rare on NA locks!
    Machinist who screwed up the drilling on pin #3: Oh yeah.... definitely

    • @lordfly88
      @lordfly88 Рік тому +295

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @TheDasHatti
      @TheDasHatti Рік тому +136

      I’m dying!😂

    • @JohnWatkinsUK
      @JohnWatkinsUK Рік тому +413

      It's odd to think that something that would probably save a tiny amount of money during manufacture (drilling shallower) AND improve security isn't more widely implemented.

    • @Kragh50
      @Kragh50 Рік тому +336

      @@JohnWatkinsUK Easier to set the machine to drill them all at the same length than to bother making them different. Not much easier, but still. (Not an excuse, just what probably happens)

    • @abitofabitofabit4404
      @abitofabitofabit4404 Рік тому +306

      @@Kragh50 I imagine five drill heads along a line, and one of them had a broken bit. LPL will have to gut another copy of this lock to show that this was Not A Fluke.

  • @allandnothing5338
    @allandnothing5338 Рік тому +128

    That moment when you realize that an anti-bump feature requires zero extra component but only 1 hole to be slightly less deep than the others.
    To put it otherwise: a cheap and simple manufacturing tweak could be applied to any lock (at least any mid-range & up), yet it's nowhere to be seen seen in the US and rarely seen in Europe. Good job lock manufacturers!

    • @keithlevkoff8579
      @keithlevkoff8579 Рік тому +13

      That was my thought.... if it's THAT easy to defeat bump keys then why doesn't every lock have that feature?
      The obvious answer is that manufacturers don't keep up on the latest technology and features.

    • @user-ut9ln4vd5m
      @user-ut9ln4vd5m Рік тому +13

      @@keithlevkoff8579 If everyone did it the same, then bump keys would just be made with the one spot a little higher. Or they might need 5 or 6 different bump keys... the randomness and secrecy is probably most of the security

    • @manuela.guilamo4939
      @manuela.guilamo4939 Рік тому +5

      @@user-ut9ln4vd5m LPL did said it doesn't get any better I'm going to assume it's not that easy to defeat.

    • @cjboyo
      @cjboyo 9 місяців тому +1

      From a mass production standpoint that tiny tweak likely represents a whole separate machine

  • @TT3Dxyz
    @TT3Dxyz Рік тому +640

    I'm a locksmith and I see this fairly often. Kwiksets that look like schlage, schlages that look like arrow, and the fact that Mailbox branded keys require one layer of paper under an NA14 key blanks to raise it up so it can be duplicated properly.

    • @WhereWhatHuh
      @WhereWhatHuh Рік тому +58

      A bank once gave me a night depository key that was a six-pin blank with five cuts. Their instruction was, "insert it and then pull back one click." I just duplicated it on a five-pin blank.

    • @TT3Dxyz
      @TT3Dxyz Рік тому +27

      @@WhereWhatHuh I see weird things like that all the time. I sometimes make two keys for cases like that. One as a direct copy and one as my attempt to fix it. I tell them if the fix works, make future copies from that one instead.

    • @WhereWhatHuh
      @WhereWhatHuh Рік тому +50

      @@TT3Dxyz I never told the bank about it. I figured it was between them and their preferred locksmith.
      I also saw a building once that had all 6-pin cylinders with 5-pin keys. I figure that certain rooms had a sixth pin, and that let them have a six-pin master on a five pin system.

    •  Рік тому +23

      @@WhereWhatHuh Maybe it was a security feature that only the bank and the clients know, but not the adversary.

    • @marvindebot3264
      @marvindebot3264 Рік тому +6

      @ Yes, i consider that a feature, not a fault.

  • @JdeBP
    @JdeBP Рік тому +483

    It is good to see that disassembly videos are still being made from time to time.

    • @ConstantlyDamaged
      @ConstantlyDamaged Рік тому +9

      Also nice is that it shows this lock cylinder can be reworked/replaced with something much better. Primus high security core, anyone? Hell, looking at those pins with the standard Kwikset side chambers in the core, you could turn this into an unpickable (*) lock very quickly with trap pins.
      * Yes, I know. Someone will likely figure out a way to bypass these kinds of traps, or may have already, but they're still damn effective at stopping even advanced pickers from getting in.

    • @JustSayN2O
      @JustSayN2O Рік тому +5

      Yeah we though LPL forgot how to gut a lock.

    • @lawlore
      @lawlore Рік тому +13

      It does feel like it's been a long time since we had one- these were the types of vids that got me hooked to this channel.

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 Рік тому +1

      @@lawlore What, you mean this channel does anything else than quick no-effort videos serving as vector for peddling check chinese junk picks? I wish that was sarcasm, but LP stopped doing any sort of work when he noticed 95% of his "audience" was brainless morons copy pasting the same click on 1 meme to farm likes without even watching...

    • @RicoElectrico
      @RicoElectrico Рік тому

      Bosnianbill did more gutting videos. So that's why we are missing them.

  • @radcyrus
    @radcyrus Рік тому +43

    I like how the question of whether or not it can be picked is never even asked anymore on this channel 😵‍💫, "it's a lock so let me just pick it first", 5 sec later "ok now let me show you inside" 😁

  • @TekedixXx
    @TekedixXx Рік тому +120

    Honestly, an Anti-bump feature is probably pretty useful. I knew kids in high school who had filed keys down to bump locks, and it wasn't difficult for them to learn this skill. Likewise, a bump attack on a door is a very low skill attack that anyone can attempt, so safeguarding against it makes sense. In contrast, most people breaking into a door probably aren't spending the time to defeat security pins, they will probably shim the door, or bypass the lock in some way before pulling lock picks out.

    • @bramweinreder2346
      @bramweinreder2346 Рік тому +12

      Door? What door. All I saw was an open 2nd floor window above a garage with a garbage container next to it...

    • @johnwang9914
      @johnwang9914 Рік тому +7

      @@bramweinreder2346 Or the patio door in the rear of the house away from public view.

    • @michaelpettersson4919
      @michaelpettersson4919 Рік тому +3

      @@johnwang9914 With the whole door consisting of a huge window...

    • @bramweinreder2346
      @bramweinreder2346 Рік тому +1

      @@johnwang9914 hey, whatever works. Fewer disturbances during a regular week morning. Especially if you act like you have business there.
      It's all a matter of opportunity. Time and noise are typically not in favour of this opportunity, and while locks and cameras are a good deterrent, they're not a solution. There is yet to be a lock that can substitute a watchful neighbor. So it doesn't hurt to be on close terms with people living in your community.

    • @JBF-GST-Tanda
      @JBF-GST-Tanda 6 місяців тому

      Until one day someone is taking lishies to school

  • @Skankhunter420
    @Skankhunter420 Рік тому +255

    Anytime a lpl video is more than a minute long you can guarantee something interesting is going to happen.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 Рік тому +7

      or he's going to open multiple locks.

    • @hobbes5043
      @hobbes5043 Рік тому

      Guess this was the exception

  • @janhanebeck4203
    @janhanebeck4203 Рік тому +1488

    I find it odd that so many people think of smart locks as much safer than ordinary locks. I like to think the opposite is the case.

    • @declan2775
      @declan2775 Рік тому +171

      Goes for lots of other "smart" devices and appliances too

    • @theunaimedarrow4903
      @theunaimedarrow4903 Рік тому +201

      Well as long as you have manual backup it has all the same problems and just adds to them. The one advantage is monitoring who's using it, and the ability to give temporary privileges.

    • @susanyoung6579
      @susanyoung6579 Рік тому +89

      When you are ignorant of the details and their importance then "more complicated" looks a lot like "more secure".

    • @rutgerhoutdijk3547
      @rutgerhoutdijk3547 Рік тому +210

      I think most people buy smart locks for convenience and not security.

    • @babilon6097
      @babilon6097 Рік тому +72

      When you have a choice of multiple methods for opening, the weakest one defines the security. Smartlocks are meant to be convenient hence the multitude of options. And if you screw up just one, the lock is garbage.

  • @Nitrousbird
    @Nitrousbird Рік тому +60

    I have one of these locks. It is a pretty decent smart lock in terms of features and price (cheaper than the big-boy names for locks with less features), battery life is good on mine, and all the features you would want. I've had a few smart locks and this one is my favorite. I don't think any of them are super secure, but one thing a smart lock can do is lock your door - manual doors can't do that. The easiest lock to get into is one that isn't locked.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Рік тому

      I can lock my door with my thumb and finger. No batteries to become landfill and leak toxic metals into the earth.

    • @johnwang9914
      @johnwang9914 Рік тому +18

      The other thing a smart lock can do is that you can determine if indeed it has been locked remotely and you can be notified when it is unlocked. Over all, a smart lock adds more ways to unlock hence lowers the overall security but the ability to better monitor the entry yourself adds to the security.

    • @shrektheogre4118
      @shrektheogre4118 Рік тому +5

      @John Wang Because if they want to get in, they are going to get in. I would rather know when they did as opposed to not knowing

  • @kameljoe21
    @kameljoe21 Рік тому +132

    The makers of the locks are super happy right now. The flaw in the drilling of hole 3 was really a feature.

    • @WhereWhatHuh
      @WhereWhatHuh Рік тому +14

      The difference between a bug and a feature is documentation.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Рік тому +3

      Why do you think it was a flaw? This is clearly something they did on purpose as just drilling a hole with less depth is going to result in a lock that can't be assembled.

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 Рік тому +3

      @@SmallSpoonBrigade OMG 66 people got it. Its a joke. The context was very clear.

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 Рік тому +2

      @@WhereWhatHuh OMG 66 people got it. Its a joke. The context was very clear.

    • @SmallSpoonBrigade
      @SmallSpoonBrigade Рік тому +3

      @@kameljoe21 If you have to explain that something was a joke, it wasn't clear or funny.

  • @hippiemcfake6364
    @hippiemcfake6364 Рік тому +195

    It wouldn't be your usual style of video, but it'd be super cool if you could do a video on how much different design choices of locks cost the manufacturer. How much does a spool or an anti drill pin or an anti-bump bin cost over standard pins, etc.?

    • @Eoraph
      @Eoraph Рік тому +7

      I'd say every feature costs a couple of hundred thousand dollars upfront to buy and set up the machine that then producec it for realistically free.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 Рік тому +15

      @@Eoraph Spools and such are off the shelf parts though, you don't need extra tooling if you're the lock manufacturer

    • @edlocks5112
      @edlocks5112 Рік тому +7

      A change in 1 lock doesn't cost hardly anything....but a change in 100k locks makes a huge difference to their profit. Locks are only to keep out honest people and children lol... if someone wants what you have they will get your stuff no matter what type of lock you use.

    • @ells5656
      @ells5656 Рік тому +3

      @@edlocks5112 i mean for you to do a re pin yourself it would cost. It costs a few cents extra for each pin. The lock manufactures just know that the everyday consumer doesn't even know and are oblivious to the fact that a lock doesn't use security pins.

    • @edlocks5112
      @edlocks5112 Рік тому +3

      @@ells5656 I understand that point also... but security pins are there to prevent picking and bumping....doesn't prevent against hammer and crowbar attacks which is how most theives get to your possessions. Like I said locks are made to make you feel secure.

  • @outseeker
    @outseeker Рік тому +826

    it's funny that such a tiny thing makes for far better security, yet not everyone just does it by default

    • @dovos8572
      @dovos8572 Рік тому +47

      well sadly it is almost impossible to buy a good secure lock with all anti pick and drill features because it is always one of the features missing, that makes the lock pickable within seconds to 1 min. the only way to get a good lock is where only the security pins are missing and then changing them out to security ones that like to reset each other if you single pick the lock.

    • @outseeker
      @outseeker Рік тому +25

      @@dovos8572 yeah but even the crappiest lock is improved by spending an extra $0 to not let people just bump it open XD why not just always do it?

    • @outseeker
      @outseeker Рік тому +10

      @@Totttty55 i can understand making a product as cheap as possible just to make the sale, but this is surely a near zero cost literally, and makes the product technically better at its job, thus more valuable.
      idk about the drilling theory, given LPL has shown us how to open just about everything, unless all locksmiths you're aware of are basically operating as more of a handyman "repairing" a door that won't open rather than an actual locksmith.

    • @MrRedstoner
      @MrRedstoner Рік тому +9

      @@outseeker It is cheaper without this feature, because it's simpler. Now the difference will be relatively small, but we know very well that they do not care

    • @alexfierro
      @alexfierro Рік тому +25

      It makes it considerably harder to consistently produce. The more security pins/features you add, the tighter your tolerances need to be which means your production costs go way up. If you have too much slop, your security pins will either get caught or not extend past the shear line properly. That just means it will be difficult to open the lock at all… even when you use the actual key. You’ll need to jiggle the key around like crazy to get the cylinder to turn. So it’s not that they’re stupid or even lazy, everything comes down to trade-off. Does it make financial sense to have one of the modern high-tech Chinese factories produce your internals even you are forced to offset the added costs by raising the price point so high your product doesn’t sell well and you go out of business? Do you get the cheap factory to add security pins even though they will hinder both lockpickers AND your customer every time they try and open it?

  • @joshuajenner2509
    @joshuajenner2509 Рік тому +28

    A pick and gut video. Been a while and I'm happy to see it. More please!

  • @D-Z321
    @D-Z321 Рік тому +26

    I have an anti-lock pick feature on my front door. It’s all natural too. Basically my lock has frozen (winter ice) so many times it’s started to corrode the metal bits on the inside which makes it bind. It’s pretty incredible, in fact, so much so that i can barely unlock it with one of the original keys 😅

  • @MorellioBenoir
    @MorellioBenoir Рік тому +20

    Yay, we got to see the core and pins! Love disassembly videos.

  • @Atomsk2
    @Atomsk2 Рік тому +8

    What’s terrible is that I watch him open these locks so damn fast that every video brings me closer and closer to thinking I should just leave the door unlocked and pray the person entering appreciates the 12 seconds I saved them

    • @LoveOverwhelming
      @LoveOverwhelming Рік тому

      Most people cannot pick locks this fast, and your door is not ideal conditions

  • @paradiselost1914
    @paradiselost1914 Рік тому +6

    I have loved these videos for years now. I especially like that the videos are short and to the point. Other UA-camrs would take a half hour showing the same thing just to get view time up.

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 Рік тому +9

    He's right about the keys being from different companies. Until my store decided to get rid of its key-cutting machine I used to cut a lot of housekeys for Walmart and after a while I could tell you what number blank you were going to need just by looking. The three most common housekey blanks according to our numbering system area a 66, 68, and 97. A 66 is that example he showed of what it should look like, the 68 is the keys that came with lock at least where the bow is concerned, and a 97 is a 66 with a slightly longer blade (you can in fact cut a 97 for a 66 if you have to).
    If I had seen those keys come in. I would have been sure it'd be a number 68 and would have been absolutely confused and would have thought my machine was broken when the scanner returned a 66. That is so weird.

  • @dust6242
    @dust6242 Рік тому +20

    I heard a wise men say locks keep honest people honest.

    • @chemistrykrang8065
      @chemistrykrang8065 Рік тому +3

      I really hate this saying - it is used to imply that there's no point investing in good quality locks and that absolutely isn't good advice.
      Good locks, as part of a good security system overall (good doors, thought about windows etc) aren't impervious... but they can and do act to convince thieves that they'll have an easier time going elsewhere. Think about it - if two motorbikes are locked up next to each other, one with a 15 mm hardened steel chain and a really good shielded shackle padlock with a Mul-T-loc core or something, and the other has a hardware store chain and a cheapo Masterlock - if you're a thief you want to be done and gone as quickly as possible with the minimum of noise and fuss... so which bike are you going to steal? The good lock has done it's job - not to be totally impregnable, but to be more risk and effort than the next guy's.

    • @dust6242
      @dust6242 Рік тому +1

      @@chemistrykrang8065 sounds good but according to content of channels like this one locks for security are obsolete, Maybe with the knowledge of someone that is skilled in opening locks as this man is they could design a real lock for security....

  • @whatshappenedhere1784
    @whatshappenedhere1784 Рік тому +10

    LPL is like a well-trained soldier disassembling a rifle with any lock he touches

  • @MadcapMachinations
    @MadcapMachinations Рік тому +17

    You know what I cut keys where I work and you are right. I've never seen that before.

  • @Mural
    @Mural Рік тому +10

    Certainly in the UK criminals are not commonly picking locks (even raking) but bumping is ubiquitous, honestly it makes sense to me to defend against bump attacks before anything else

  • @Harald.
    @Harald. Рік тому +2

    You only picked the lock once, so I had to watch the video twice, to see that it was not a fluke!

  • @tonyfletcher2541
    @tonyfletcher2541 Рік тому +47

    Add a serrated and spool or two and you have a much better lock. Great anti bump feature.

  • @alockpro
    @alockpro Рік тому +7

    I ordered this lock off Amazon in June. It came with a custom key with the Ultraloq logo on the bow. It's an odd shape, as the bow looks like its cut in half and follows the top of the blade of the key. The key is an SC1 style. I believe popularity has risen faster than they can produce, or source parts. Maybe they have been putting in what ever they have access to at the time. LPL may have gotten a "just ship it" quality version. I bought it because of the hidden backup. I don't trust the batteries, but I trust the neighbors less. Out of sight, out of mind.

  • @notfeedynotlazy
    @notfeedynotlazy Рік тому +6

    That kind of anti bumping features are actually standard in most European locks (as in, _every_ lock for sale features them, because the ones _without_ them didn't sell). Chalk it to the high publicity that bumping-using burglary received around a decade ago.

  • @mincooper
    @mincooper Рік тому +25

    Great video. I really liked my biometric Ultraloq but like many others experienced the fingerprint sensor has longevity issues. Mine started to get less sensitive to input about 1/2 year later and completely stopped working before a year was up. Prompt contact was made for warranty and an initial response was given to replace the sensor. After delays on Ultraloq's end they followed up with an apology that I was out of warranty and suggested I just buy a new one. As much as I like the functionality of this lock, the fingerprint sensor just isn't reliable and neither is the post sales service.

    • @SpyderZT
      @SpyderZT Рік тому

      I guess it's a roll of the dice. I've had mine for almost two years and it's still working great. O.o

    • @mincooper
      @mincooper Рік тому +1

      @@SpyderZT totally agree about the roll of the dice. I am sure there are many lucky owners like you who don't have any issues. The real test of a company is what happens when there is a problem. For me that's where the biggest fail lies with Ultraloq. Promising me a replacement sensor, then saying replacement sensors are not available, and ending the conversation with I am beyond warranty (even though I reported it within the warranty) because they dragged the issue out due to their slow responses is terrible customer service. Unfortunately I have read others who experienced similar service stories.

    • @SpyderZT
      @SpyderZT Рік тому +2

      Yeah, Good CS goes a LONG Way towards making up for quality issues, I agree. I'll buy a cheaper "Potentially Delicate" device with awesome customer service over a "Probaby Fine" device with BS CS. ;P Sad to hear they're on the bad side. ;?

    • @Nitrousbird
      @Nitrousbird Рік тому

      Had mine for 9 months on our main door. The figerprint sensor is about the only way we ever use it and still works perfectly. If I have an issue, it is usually due to a wet finger or pressing too hard.

    • @mincooper
      @mincooper Рік тому

      @@Nitrousbird hopefully yours continues to work.

  • @Robert-nz2qw
    @Robert-nz2qw Рік тому

    “Follower”. The most sought for word on LPL’s channel

  • @JamesShumate-gf3wb
    @JamesShumate-gf3wb Рік тому +5

    As an owner of this lock all I can say is the weird key is the part that gives me the most grief. No hardware store ever gets the key right despite me telling them its a kwik style key. The last time I tried to get a duplicate key made I had to argue with the person for 5 minutes about how the key was actually a kwikset key. I was making copies of several keys so I only noticed they sneakily swapped the kwikset key for a schlage when I was locked out of my house. Fortunately I carry some lock-picks in my car.

  • @buddyotter
    @buddyotter Рік тому +2

    Thanks for this! I have these locks, and the first thing I did was to repin them to make them bump proof and pick resistant. Learned a lot from your videos on how to do this!

  • @Kaynos
    @Kaynos Рік тому +9

    Wait, he only cracked the lock once, so it was definitively a fluke !

  • @AaronSteinPittsburgh
    @AaronSteinPittsburgh Рік тому +85

    I have to say, while I have watched many many of your videos where you pull apart locks which are expensive and supposed to be offering more security in exchange for that expense, I truly wish that when you reviewed these locks you would tell us how to make them better. Replace pins, or add an additional security feature. In my mind, a lock this technologically advanced should have some sort of built in alarm the moment you pop open the mechanical lock and it should immediately record a timestamp and alert some security company or hell just send the owner an email the moment the keypad was bypassed. Like, yes you can pop this open and pick it or a locksmith could bypass it but I want an immediate record of the event sent to me.

    • @barryomahony4983
      @barryomahony4983 Рік тому +6

      I have one. I get a text every time the lock is locked or unlocked.

    • @AaronSteinPittsburgh
      @AaronSteinPittsburgh Рік тому +7

      @@barryomahony4983 what about if the lock is bypassed? And which model is it?

    • @barryomahony4983
      @barryomahony4983 Рік тому +13

      It doesn’t matter how the lock is opened- fingerprint, code, key, internal knob, or the app on my phone- I get a text. There’s a big 4’x4’ window right next to the door anyway, so I don’t get too carried away with security. I just like the fingerprint reader; very fast and accurate

    • @AaronSteinPittsburgh
      @AaronSteinPittsburgh Рік тому +1

      @@barryomahony4983 what model lock is it you have? The one in the video?

    • @AlvinKazu
      @AlvinKazu Рік тому +3

      LPL did mention you can connect this to your phone and to home automation programs such as Home Assistant, so I would assume there would be features to detect when the door was opened, regardless of what was used.

  • @rspade827
    @rspade827 Рік тому +3

    I love the disassembly videos!

  • @sdafkjwkop
    @sdafkjwkop Рік тому +1

    I just paid $300 for a lock and this man just showed the world how to open it

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Рік тому +1

      LOL 😭 LPL makes money on your tears

  • @godnessy
    @godnessy Рік тому +4

    This was a fun video! Liked it a lot. Please make more of these curiosities :)

  • @donfolstar
    @donfolstar Рік тому +1

    Two mildly complimentary videos in one month? Must be an early Xmas gift to lockmakers everywhere.

  • @davidcovington901
    @davidcovington901 Рік тому +11

    Whatever lock keeps LPL on-air for nearly 6 minutes for us viewers, is a good lock.

    • @dlevi67
      @dlevi67 Рік тому +4

      But this one doesn't. It keeps him busy picking for 27 seconds 1:54 - 2:22 (admittedly with a Lishi tool, which makes things easier and de-skills things, but he could have single-pin picked it with a normal pick in the same amount of time). The rest of the time is discussing the features and taking the lock apart to show the anti-bump drilling.

    • @chemistrykrang8065
      @chemistrykrang8065 Рік тому +1

      I'm willing to bet this could be raked by a relative novice in a few seconds. There's no excuse for a lock with no security pins.

    • @davidcovington901
      @davidcovington901 Рік тому

      @@dlevi67 5:55 is right there on the screen. Read definition of "whatever."

    • @dlevi67
      @dlevi67 Рік тому

      @@davidcovington901 Whatever.

  • @CrisTc86
    @CrisTc86 Рік тому +1

    Damn you are being very generous with your compliments on this lock

  • @Cobb
    @Cobb Рік тому +3

    It looks like you can either just replace the core or at minimum repin it with spools, serrated pins and what not to something much harder to pick. However, given it's Bluetooth, wifi and smart home integration, there's probably an easy way of tricking the lock to open itself.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 Рік тому

      No bet on that!

    • @444mopar
      @444mopar Рік тому +2

      You're not using this on a bank vault. On your house if someone can't get in quick and easy they will just smash their way in. No thief is wasting time fighting with a WiFi or Bluetooth connection.

  • @boydtimmerman228
    @boydtimmerman228 Рік тому +1

    Not only can he take a lock apart fast but he has a very steady hand and all the right tools , he amazes me with the speed he has with his slow movements

  • @EndlessMoneyPits
    @EndlessMoneyPits Рік тому +7

    I got excited when you said you were having steep discounts on Lishi tools this week but it looks like your prices have actually gone up about 30% from last week! What the heck??

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Рік тому +1

      LPL has a for-profit business. Price shop you'll find better prices but why not help him out a little.

    • @jeeporegon9817
      @jeeporegon9817 Рік тому +2

      @@rmsg7504 That's not the point. He said the prices have been discounted for this sale, but when I checked I found that his prices have actually increased significantly since last week. I'm hoping it's a mistake but he has not responded.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Рік тому +1

      @@jeeporegon9817 You can shop online too, lots of knock-offs exist. I have about 50 of these for auto, motorcycles and commercial and I paid full price but if you just want one or two and your doing it for fun just get the knock-offs. Original Lishi and Genuine Lishi are legitimate businesses but there are knock-offs all over the place. Some of the knock offs have keyways the legit companies don't too. I like giving LPL business when I can but if someone else has it cheaper I'll go there.

  • @itunesben119
    @itunesben119 Рік тому

    thanks for sharing this bump feature with us. I like to be an informed buyer when lock shopping. happy holidays LPL & Mrs. LPL

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun Рік тому +3

    In the context this "anti-bump-feature" might just be bad machining tolerances.

  • @tomg6284
    @tomg6284 Рік тому

    My black Friday covert kit came very quickly.
    Thank you for the awesome price.

  • @PaulyDownUnder
    @PaulyDownUnder Рік тому +5

    Is there another similar lock system around the same price mark that is better that you would recommend? Do you have a chart of best locks to worst for standard (key only), keypad (digital) and combination for both key and digital like this one you're reviewing?? Love the videos, keep them coming! :)

  • @ethelryan257
    @ethelryan257 Рік тому

    I truly enjoy this man's videos. He can praise a lock while picking it in seconds.

  • @d-meth
    @d-meth Рік тому +1

    I've had my ultraloq frontdoor lock (not deadbolt) for at least 6 years, the actual key is even weirder shape than this but it goes under the door knob lever.
    They have great customer service, if anything breaks they'll send a replacement part for free.

  • @JonathanChase
    @JonathanChase Рік тому +1

    There's clearly a lot of prep work that goes into a video like this, since he already knows what's inside to show us. It would be fascinating to see the real time experimenting (bumping, raking, etc.) as he explores a new lock to find it's vulnerabilities and features for the first time.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Рік тому

      Exactly, with enough prep time anyone can look like a genius. I don't see LPL picking locks in the wild, there's a reason for that....

  • @nelsonsa
    @nelsonsa Рік тому +40

    I wonder if you could replace the core or at least the pins with something more pick resistant

    • @bmitch3020
      @bmitch3020 Рік тому +21

      The core is fairly standard, other than the key pin depth on 3, so repining is easy. If you like the key, you only need to change the driver pins to significantly increase pick resistance.

    • @ConstantlyDamaged
      @ConstantlyDamaged Рік тому +13

      @@bmitch3020 Toss in a lighter-flint spring or two, add some serrated pins, a spool, and file two driver pins to act as traps in the Kwikset core holes-and you would have a core that would definitely no longer be the weak part of this thing.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Рік тому +1

      A drill and a 1/8" bit will defeat any top pins and spring combinations. So will a rock through a window.

    • @ConstantlyDamaged
      @ConstantlyDamaged Рік тому +3

      @@rmsg7504 Anti-drill features are not hard to implement. Also, both those entry methods are noisy.
      The target here, and indeed the OP of this thread, was only focused on the pick-resistance of the lock.
      "Well, the house is susceptible to having a tank driven through the wall" is another option you hadn't considered, and also significantly faster at gaining entry to the house.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Рік тому

      @@ConstantlyDamaged When has noisy ever stopped a burglar LOL? They just kick the door in usually. But some use tools and power tools. Having a legit burglar alarm and cameras is necessary if you really want to slow down, stop or catch them. Honestly even that won't stop them but at least you'll be notified and have video. If its a AirBNB or rental, there might not be anyone around to LISTEN for a break in.

  • @LandonClimbs
    @LandonClimbs Рік тому

    Man your a wizard of your craft. I love learning about locks from you. Lol thanks dude

  • @Sumppen
    @Sumppen Рік тому +2

    I’m always amazed on how bad locks there are, especially in the US. All houses here have Abloy locks, which at least seem to give even LPL a slight challenge

  • @davidwpinkston4226
    @davidwpinkston4226 Рік тому

    good to see that you've still got it

  • @chrisaudi1593
    @chrisaudi1593 Рік тому

    when I see a dissemble of a lock like this I always think about bosian bill miss this dude
    good job on the video LPL

  • @squelchtone
    @squelchtone Рік тому +1

    LPL: as far as bump resistance, it doesn't get much better
    UltraLoq stocks: brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • @thomasfa18
    @thomasfa18 Рік тому

    I have experience with one of these locks and overall find it pretty good once you drop in a couple of security pins.
    The biggest drawback is that the lock has what the manufacturer terms a "feature" that significantly reduces the overall physical security of the device.
    Since the manufacture refuses to fix it I'm not going to disclose it publicly, but it's enough to prevent the use of their decive for any purpose where you want an above average level.of security.

  • @Bambi_Sapphic
    @Bambi_Sapphic Рік тому +12

    In this case "unusual features" mean
    Cost saving measure (bow shape)
    Retail price raising measure (random obscure bump protection feature).

  • @vanerek
    @vanerek Рік тому

    LPL taking a lock apart... This is something to thankful for... Like the good old days

  • @glasslinger
    @glasslinger Рік тому +12

    But can you open the lock by prying the pushbutton housing off the door and stripping the wires back to connect certain wires together?

    • @Tony-pq3xv
      @Tony-pq3xv Рік тому +6

      If you can some how manage to pry the housing of the door it wouldn't matter if you can get to the wires as at that point you have access to the bar and can just turn it

    • @dlevi67
      @dlevi67 Рік тому +3

      A decent smartlock sends only key-scan signals, nothing that will cause the door to open unless the right sequence of codes is entered.

    • @PanduPoluan
      @PanduPoluan Рік тому +4

      As dlevi67 said, the wires are there just to send key codes to the main mechanism / processor, which lives on the other side.
      At most what you can do is send a strong current and burn the circuits, rendering the door unopenable by electronic means. But even that's not guaranteed: If they use opto-isolation inside, such overcurrent will only destroy the opto-isolator LEDs, but the main circuitry will still be safe.

  • @ralaneu
    @ralaneu Рік тому +2

    I am always freeked out but how he makes a quick work of all those locks.
    "Our lock has: fingerprints, retina scanners, sharks with laser and T-rex protection..."
    LPL "...click out of five and we are in...."

  • @cogspace
    @cogspace Рік тому

    Neat. Throw a few security pins in this thing, and you'd have a really solid smart lock, assuming you can't open it by just bridging a couple contacts or slapping it with a magnet or something.

  • @emendoza378
    @emendoza378 Рік тому +3

    I don't know if this can be exploited on the lock or not but the cable is exposed when you open it at @0:50

  • @freshgino
    @freshgino Рік тому

    It’s about time you open up a lock!! Been a while.

  • @jamescossey6372
    @jamescossey6372 Рік тому +6

    I've always wondered. What is the cost difference between a standard and security pin?

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen Рік тому +1

      Probably 1 cent vs 3 cents per pin and you need 5 pins for a lock like this.

  • @JadeLockpicker
    @JadeLockpicker Рік тому +1

    What I see: a decent enough smart lock that one could easily upgrade the core on by adding a few pick resistant pins to it. And if that's all it really takes to make bumping near impossible, then lock makers should be ashamed that bumping happens at all.

  • @ErnieTessein
    @ErnieTessein Рік тому

    I've been waiting for this video. I have this exact lock. I emailed the company about putting in a better keyway. haha

  • @colinkeenan5674
    @colinkeenan5674 Рік тому

    I love the recent focus on smart locks, keep up the good work!

  • @wuggie88
    @wuggie88 Рік тому +6

    I never understood why they put in these "normal" locks, in so high tech locks, couldn't they just keep using the old lock, since it's no way more secure than the weakest link anyways?

    • @Icspiders247
      @Icspiders247 Рік тому +7

      So you don't get locked out of your house if the so-called high tech part of your lock breaks down.

    • @raycapetillo5569
      @raycapetillo5569 Рік тому +5

      People fall for marketing gimmicks.. Same lock..add gimmick.. charge more.. Wait that sounds like Master Lock.

    • @wuggie88
      @wuggie88 Рік тому +1

      @@Icspiders247 Okay, but then there's no need for the high-tech part I guess? Where I live our key has a chip in it and it needs to register the chip when you put it in the keyhole, to let you in the building.. but one doesn't work without the other and that makes more sense to me

    • @Icspiders247
      @Icspiders247 Рік тому +3

      @@wuggie88 With a keypad you don't have to take a key out of your pocket. Just enter the code and go on in. The regular lock is unlocked by the keypad part. The key acts as a backup if the smart lock stops working for some reason.

    • @Pattoe
      @Pattoe Рік тому +1

      @@Icspiders247 Also allows you to have only 1 key (or 1 key and a backup) but let multiple people inside your home when you're not there, such as family, friends etc.
      My friend used to have a keysafe on the outside of his property and his friends knew the combination so we could go in and out of his house as we pleased. Luckily we had a very trustworthy friend group and nothing was ever stolen from his house.

  • @TheAleG
    @TheAleG Рік тому +2

    what impress me most is the fact he has more trouble opening packages and unscrewing screws that lockpicking.

  • @justinsiebel9705
    @justinsiebel9705 Рік тому

    Nice to see the tray again

  • @toolmakerbest1584
    @toolmakerbest1584 Рік тому +2

    After this big sale, I guess we will just nail the door shut for the evening! 😂😂

  • @ItrioAZ
    @ItrioAZ Рік тому +5

    With that bump resistance, would you be able to bluster security of the lock by replacing some other pin types in the mix? understandably you would need to make a new key, but just a curiosity.

    • @ml9867
      @ml9867 Рік тому +3

      You could change the standard pins to security pins of the same length & keep the same key if you wanted. This would make it harder to pick or rake. You could also use a stronger metal as a pin or two for drill resistance.

  • @rherman9085
    @rherman9085 Рік тому

    Happy Thanksgiving LPL and All....

  • @ericstearns170
    @ericstearns170 Рік тому

    That was like hearing 'Well, he can't hit very well, but he can bunt like no one else.' 🤷‍♂️

  • @matthewbertrand4139
    @matthewbertrand4139 Рік тому

    eventually what i'm going to do is just compile all the lock feedback from these videos and create a lock with the highest possible level of security

  • @956675
    @956675 Рік тому +1

    Most recognisable hands on the internet.

  • @johnbod
    @johnbod Рік тому +12

    Could you try the Eufy smartlock? I’m a big fan of it but I’m curious what you as a lock expert would see as any flaws within it outside of the usual picking.

    • @adrian4mani
      @adrian4mani Рік тому +1

      EUFY IS SENDING PICTURES TO THEIR SERVER WITHOUT YOUR CONCENT. DO NOT TOUCH WITH A 100 METER POLE

    • @nietmijnechtenaam2477
      @nietmijnechtenaam2477 Рік тому +2

      with the recent eufy debacle... its probally safe to stay away as far as possible from them!

  • @obiwanfisher537
    @obiwanfisher537 Рік тому +1

    The guy who drilled the holes and made a mistake:

  • @Jynxx_13
    @Jynxx_13 Рік тому +7

    I noticed this lock used counter clockwise tension/rotation. How do you know which way to tension on an unknown lock?

    • @bmitch3020
      @bmitch3020 Рік тому +3

      You can tension either way. Which direction is unlock can vary, which is why they make plug spinners.

    • @SticklsOfDoom
      @SticklsOfDoom Рік тому +1

      You don't always. There are generally-standard practices, like which direction you turn the key to lock vs unlock (many deadbolts, for example, you always turn the key the same direction to unlock), but that's not necessarily universal.

    • @blarfroer8066
      @blarfroer8066 Рік тому +1

      this lock isn't attached to anything and just spins freely. On doors, it's usually determined by its position. If it's mounted on the left side, you turn it clockwise to open; if it's mounted on the right side, you turn it counter-clockwise to open it.

  • @speedypanda454
    @speedypanda454 Рік тому +1

    Besides Your skills I admire Your well done pedicure/nails. Rare to see on a man.

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi 6 днів тому +1

    Great video.

  • @mlast6049
    @mlast6049 Рік тому +3

    i can't visualize how that anti bump feature works. do you have a cross section view diagram or something?

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 Рік тому

      The pin doesn't reach down far enough for the bump key to bump it.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 Рік тому

      To massively oversimplify how bump keys work. In a vulnerable lock, the pins rest on the bump key. hitting the key makes them bounce. The third pin in this lock is stopped before it can rest on the bump key, so hitting the key won't make it bounce.

    • @mlast6049
      @mlast6049 Рік тому

      so if the pin doesn't reach down to the bump key, how does the regular key reach up to the pin to make it move to unlock the lock?

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 Рік тому

      @@mlast6049 a bump key has all the regular thickness of a key cut off. the actual key would have more thickness at that pin position so it would reach high enough to push the pin into the proper position.
      you can describe the cuts of a key by a number value. I think it is 0-5, so a 5 pin lock might have the key cuts, 0, 4, 2, 3, 5. a bump key is cut to all 0 positions, and then is extra long so when it is hit, the little bumps between the positions hit the pins and bounce them. if you did the bump resistant drilling on the third pin, the third pin wouldn't drop down to position 0. it would stop at position 1. so the proper key could push it up to position 2, but the bump key wouldn't bounce it.

    • @mlast6049
      @mlast6049 Рік тому

      ok. thanks.

  • @bms9144
    @bms9144 Рік тому +1

    The KIK cylinder is a five pin style, but it looks like it may have the overall length of a six pin cylinder. If so, that would open up high security KIK cylinder options; assuming the $299 already spent on it didn't dissuade the buyer.

  • @goodvibes4891
    @goodvibes4891 Рік тому +1

    I think I speak for all of us when I say, the title led me to believe the 'unusual feature' was surely going to be a laughable bypass.

  • @williamwinder3466
    @williamwinder3466 Рік тому +2

    You can open it using wifi. That is a huge security risk.

  • @Shanerr
    @Shanerr Рік тому +1

    I love how he starts talking about the awesome features it has then is like “Let me open it in 10 seconds to show you how good of a lock it is” 😂😂

  • @Forcelord50
    @Forcelord50 Рік тому

    I have 3 of these, and they've changed the style of the key every time.

  • @Swimmer218
    @Swimmer218 Рік тому +3

    You would think that a lock which costs as much as this, it would come with at least one security spool. My question is, if someone has the same diameter/length of security spool, could they change it out?

    • @jceggbert5
      @jceggbert5 Рік тому +1

      Yes

    • @jonny5alive123
      @jonny5alive123 Рік тому +3

      Why would you bother with spools when picking isn't the attack vector anyone would use?
      The chances that anyone is ever going to attempt to pick your door lock are minuscule.

    • @Swimmer218
      @Swimmer218 Рік тому +1

      That's a good point.
      For me, it would be peace of mind.

    • @skygh
      @skygh Рік тому +2

      Yes easily replaced. I sometimes upgrade customers cylinders and don't even tell them

    • @chemistrykrang8065
      @chemistrykrang8065 Рік тому +1

      @@jonny5alive123 I've heard that said many times, but I struggle to believe it. Raking these cheap locks without security pins is often so easy that it really is the fastest and most efficient way in. The door lock I removed from my house when I bought it was like this and I was able to rake it in a few seconds.

  • @FranciscoTChavez
    @FranciscoTChavez Рік тому +1

    As I was watching this, I thought to myself, "Does he even bother carrying a set of house keys? I bet he just keeps a spare lock-pick inside a fake rock; it would be a lot more secure than a spare key."

  • @MoneyMiner9
    @MoneyMiner9 Рік тому +3

    Your wifi breaks and you forget the password, you last hope? The lock picker. Most local lock pickers first choice pick? Bump keying. If that don’t work? Well we are drilling it out, but you LOVED your product so much you went ahead and buy another one. I feel that’s the only subtle reason to do this, it probably increases sales 1-3% for repeat customers while costing fractions of a penny

    • @BummySheep
      @BummySheep Рік тому +3

      These lock come with wifi, bluetooth, finger print, keypad, and backup key. The only way you're getting locked out is if the battery dies nullifying all the electronic components and you forgot your key. The wifi portion only affects the app everything else does no require internet to unlock.

    • @isawadelapradera6490
      @isawadelapradera6490 Рік тому +1

      I wouldn't blame the problem for not adapting to my solution. But that's just me.

  • @burtony3
    @burtony3 Рік тому

    He decided to pick it open to gut, when he had the key already in hand...

  • @treeguyable
    @treeguyable Рік тому

    Had a 2001 f150, new back then. Put a huge Chevrolet emblem on the windshield. People were flabbergasted. The only one on the planet, to do such a thing.

  • @DrHarryT
    @DrHarryT Рік тому

    I have found that putting a little hair around the keyhole helps immensely when attempting to insert the pick into the keyhole.

    • @rmsg7504
      @rmsg7504 Рік тому

      So does super glue, bond-o, and JB Weld

  • @collectingonthecheap56353
    @collectingonthecheap56353 Рік тому

    Had a nightmare once. LPL went rogue and joined The Legion of Doom and helped them gain access to anywhere and anything.

  • @jpendowski7503
    @jpendowski7503 Рік тому

    Very interesting, thanks for the tear down and demonstration. 💜

  • @TheG4merTV
    @TheG4merTV Рік тому +1

    Imagine paying 300 bucks for the lock and this guy unlocks it in less than 20 seconds 😂

  • @StevenBanks123
    @StevenBanks123 Рік тому

    He casually picks it open to show us a security feature he has just rendered irrelevant.

  • @caseydarrah
    @caseydarrah Рік тому

    What I'd love to know is how they even had blanks made with a KW1 blade and an SC1 bow. That's so utterly nonstandard I can't imagine anyone would have them handy.

  • @redbyrd64
    @redbyrd64 Рік тому

    When we moved into our house the door from the garage had a Schlage hardware with a qwikset cylinder.