Unpacking The Treasures We Got From Germany!
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2023
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Tom like a kid on Christmas morning...
This is by far my favourite UA-cam channel , Tom is such a gentleman and they are even friendly enough to help me authenticate a few Luger bits when I live in London. Toms signed third reich Luger book is sitting proudly on my shelf next to Jan Stills collection
Just make sure you list them as import marked. Also for anyone who reads this the auction was Herman historica
where are the import marking he didnt show them
@@grayparatrooper kind of odd isn’t it, I asked the same question. I never got a response and I see he hasn’t posted one on this video
Some of the ATF members probably want those collectible firearms When it comes to ATF I don't trust them Thanks for the video always nice to look at some cool weapons
I hope your guns the ATF seized won’t come up lost !
And I thought it was bad when it took three months to import a harmonica from France (LOL). As usual, another fascinating video and what a history lesson you teach to all of us! Tom, you are the King of the Gun Collecting World and we all so appreciate the knowledge and honesty to bring to us. Cheers!
That must have been a red tape nightmare. I can tell you are a very patient person. You were the perfect person to import them
I worked for a firearms importer back in the 1980's and if I remember correctly getting guns OUT of the country they're being purchased from is relatively simple. As long as you've got an export license and a letter of credit to pay for them they don't care where they're going. Getting them IN to this country is where the red tape comes into play.
But, things may have changed since then, I'll admit it.
Within Europe it's fairly simple. I once imported a P210 (900€ only, loads of spare mags :D ) from the Netherlands to Germany. The local German firemarms licencing department sent me all paperworks pre-filled out, the Dutch agency did everythign via e-mail. In total maybe 3 e-mails back and forth, I did not even have to go to show it to any agency once I got. Super simple.
@@willywodka yeah exporting and importing to other countries in europe is usually quite easy
I think I just had a "gungasm". Great channel.
Would it be possible to do a video on purchasing firearms in Europe and importuning them?
I really thought I knew a lot about Lugers, Walthers and the like. Wow, this just taught me how much i have yet to learn.
Postwar PPs and PPKs are quite cheap here in Germany, because nobody wants them. Hunters need bigger calibers for self defense and sport shooters usually buy a 9mm Luger gun and a .357 Magnum revolver or a .22 pistol. You have to be careful with your two slots on your license. Of course, you can get more but you have to have reasons, for example competition but most buy something different than those pocket pistols. That's why they are like 200€ more or less.
Kinda sad that they are gone now but we import many classic muscle cars so I guess that makes it even :D
How are the laws in Germany?....is it getting harder to own
@@ahall1459 Yeah, the politicians always try to make it harder, the last time they regulated magazines for centerfire guns. Nowyou can't buy handgun magazines over 20 rounds and rifle magazines over 10 rounds.
If you want to own a gun you have to be a certified collector, hunter or sports shooter.
A sports shooter joins a club, shoots once every month for a year and has to have a book where he notes every training. After a year he has to take a theoretical test about laws and safety and buy a certified gun safe. Then you write your head shooting association, show your training book and say that you need a gun for a discipline, for example pistol 9mm Luger 25m bullseye. They check that and certify that you need that gun. With this certificate, your theoretical test, recipe of the gun safe and your training book you write your local authorities, they run you through every three letter agency, run background checks and then give your gun license(s) with the allowance for a handgun 9mm Luger pistol. Now go to a shop, buy a 9mm Luger pistol and let the authorities put a stamp on your license. For hand guns, semiauto rifles, semiauto shotguns and repeating shotguns you need a green license and have to go through the before mentioned process for every new gun. Everything else can be bought with the yellow license for sports shooters. With this you just go into a store and buy whatever you want (single shot rifles, bolt action rifles, break action shotguns, single shot handguns, cap and ball revolvers) and let your authorities put a stamp on it. In 2017 they put a limit on the yellow license, now you can only buy max 10 guns with it. With the green license you get a basic right to buy 2 handguns and 3 rifles. Everything over that has to be reasened for, for example with competing in championships. Yesterday I was at a competition and a guy next to me had 7 handguns, so that is also possible.
You have to train regularly because your authorities will check your book and if you don't train and have a good reason for it, they make you sell your guns.
Hunters just take a hunting course (three times a week for about a year) and can buy as many rifles as the want but they dont get more the 2/3 handguns.
Collectors have a topic of guns they collect and can buy everything in that topic. A friend of mines topic is German military weapons from 1871 to 1945 as well as captured weapons. He's got a very nice collection, even a STG44 although restricted to semiauto.
Another thing: You are checked regular for crimes by your authorities. Drunk driving and crimes like assault or kiddy touching are immediate reasons that you loose your "right" to keep your guns.
Dang Y so dang strict? People outta control?, like here in America? We hv mass shootings politicians cant touch our guns. Ok, plz pay attn; After the Brady Bill expired,5yr bill, the atf said ok, yall getting an”Instant Check” backround chk. We(the Reunlicans) said Great. Bad idea. The Monday morning after said check was law, we went to buy a shotgun(long gun), stay with me, and were told, lemme run your free bkrd chk. We got Duped! It was supposed to be for Handguns!, Brady bill was checks for handgun sales. The sorry demacrats snuck in Long Guns and will never be Trusted again! Ever! I know this cuz i had an ffl. How can we trust a party that is Sneaky and Minipulative?? Mental Health checks on gun buyers/owners would be disaterous for the USA. We cant afford it and also who’s to say your”fixed” now after a yr or two of therapy and meds?? BS to the highest. Peace man, i’m out✌️✌️🇺🇸🇺🇸
I love my Walther.
You said It's a lot of work, I say It's a lot of love.
How fun! Glad you scored these.
Great to see a man with a passion for his work .Love it.
I love these videos!
Its fun learning of these lugers, very educational.
Thanks for the efforts in putting your videos out.
Where is the import marking located on the Lugers?
i tried buying a replacement plastic housing for a mp40 from marstar out of Canada . the blk woman i was dealing with from atf said it was a receiver she said she even asked one of her co workers they both said it was a receiver and refused to let me to bring it in to the usa. sort of like our VP hasn't a clue what she is doing.
Lots of great guns. I look forward to your videos. Thanks, Tom! I have learned and will continue to learn very much from you.
~1916 all Brown was ordered to paint black .
Boot’s,belt’s Y- harnes, holster ’S 😂 glove’s etc Schwarz
When you deal with a government agency you always get to deal with someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.
Thanks for showing!
What's about this tiny "death heads"?
WHO made them?
Did You make a video about this?
Are they even any real?
Seems to be a ww1 pistol from 1918 ( 1918 Stamp ) ,the "Deathead" symbol was also used by the " Braunschweigisches Husaren Regiment Nr. 17 (17th Braunschweig "Death's Head" Hussar Cavalry Regiment ) " , Sturmtruppen , Flamethrower-troops & Panzer-troops during ww 1 ( prior the Freikorps after ww1 & Waffen SS & Panzer Division during ww2 ) . During ww1 Ace pilot Leutnant Georg von Hantelmann (9 October 1898 - 7 September 1924) credited with winning 25 victories during World War I was also a former member of the 17th Braunschweig "Death Head" Hussar Regiment & used the "Deaths Head" symbol on his Aircraft .
Anton Ludwig Friedrich August von Mackensen (born Mackensen; 6 December 1849 - 8 November 1945), ennobled as "von Mackensen" . Mackensen impressed Kaiser Wilhelm II, who ordered that Mackensen be given command from 17 June 1893 of the 1st Life Hussars Regiment (Leib-Husaren-Regiment Nr. 1) he often wore the distinctive death's head uniform thereafter. During World War I (1914-1918) he became one of the German Empire's most prominent and competent military leaders .
Have the weapons from Germany modern proof marks ?
It's common here in Europe
You can get a "Nichtbeschussbescheinigung" if the gun is collectable and rare. If this is the case, it don't get proofed with overpressure and stamped, but you aren't allowed to shoot it. I know that there was a big P08 collection at Hermann Historica, the proof house researched which P08 are rare and which were not to decide which of these guns had to be proofen.
Well done, Tom! Really like that plum finished PP!
Yeah, what a status symbol keeping that sweetheart in the hip pocket of my bibb overalls would be.
thank you for the teachings.
The Arabic letters on the Walther pistol for the Turkish Police, read from right to left, are the letters Y and Q. As for the Persian pistol, the year 1939 is minted. Specifically, the year 1317, to which we add 622 years, it comes out what you can see, but there is a nuance in which month, because the Persians still use the lunar calendar, so it could be 1939. As for the rest of the subtitles, you need a very clear picture to decipher.
Wonderful guns you lucky bugger Tom
Nice haul, cant wait to see if you win. of course you will.
Looking forward to see broomhandled guns, someday i will have a navy Luger North Sea!
US guncontrol act was also to protect US pocket pistol producers against , for example,cheaper european products.
and it got us lorcin FIE snub noses tecs and ravens guns not worth pissing on!!!
@@keithmoore5306 : I am german, Brittas boyfriend ( only using her Computer too) and born in 1965. For reason of german gunlaw, and the fact , that i don' t served in German Armed Forces ( Bundeswehr), for reason of my bad eyes, i have nearly no practical knowledge of firearms, only theoreticaly, because i read german language arms magazines for fourty years, and i have visited lots of museums and castles, showing historical weapons.
In those arms magazines sometimes the USA and their laws about weapons is the topic, so i know , whats on there, and what great nonsens is told by german politicans , newspapers and TV about weapons laws in USA.
Such cheap pistols made of casted non iron metal alloys ( Aluminium or Zink) are also produced in Germany, but today only for socalled Gas- and Scareshot blankguns, only ME ( Melcher) company produces for czech such castzink revolvers in 6mm Flobert rimfire, forerunner of .22 short. But in 1960s many of blankgun producers also made cheap revolvers for liferounds in .22/.32/.38.
With exeption of some traditional german gunsmiths/ gunmakers ( in german both are Büchsenmacher) who are tuning/ transforming mostly S&W revolvers into highend target revolvers, there are only three revolver companies: Korth and Janz for noble target revolvers, and Weihrauch - Arminius for average revolvers.
@@brittakriep2938 i wasn't referring to German guns there (i love HK's and would kill for a couple Korth's!!!) that idiotic law stopped Browning star llama beretta Sig along with Walther and another half dozen plus makers from selling very good quality reliable small pistols here they were replaced by poor quality junkie stick up pieces that were just as likely to either jam or blow up in your hand as fire like they should have! they weren't worth the metal it took to make them! they touted this pile of shit law as a crime reduction move it did the exact opposite in spades!! the small pistols they stopped from coming in were replaced by others that were a third to a fifth the cost of the stopped ones and those hit the streets in numbers that was a factor of five or ten higher of what would have if they'd just left it alone!! all they did is take street gangs from using knives to shooting it out! a word of advice if Berlin starts in to change guns to be tighter stop them at all costs all they'll do is make the problem they're trying to solve ten times worse!!
Beautiful collection of firearms.
Well done. Are any for your own collection ? Trouble is most of us would want to keep them all. It would great to see your own collection. Regards Glen
Pretty Cool, Tom!
Super duper LOVE that 1918 Luger at 2:45
If only I could afford one 😓
It's amazing that so many Lugers and broomhandle mausers here in England you could never collect such pistols makes me cry 😢
Very odd rules precluding you from importing PPK's, when smaller guns like the Ruger LCP and Seacamp are made and sold in the USA. Barrel length seems a strange determining factor.
Excellent point. Allow me to explain. There was some "angst" years ago about cheap "Saturday night specials" because they were commonly used by less than honorable types in the commission of crimes and they were subsequently banned from import. Barrel length was one of the features included in the ban and the PPK fell under the umbrella of this ridiculous legislation. Fine example of idiot bureaucracy at it's finest.
That's size limitation on import guns is the legacy of the "Saturday Night Special" hysteria of the late 1960's. You can make as many itty-bitty's here in the US as you want but no imports.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 Thanks. I'm aware of the "saturday night specials" but it does seem an odd rule, when the PPK isn't even that small.
@@robertl426 It seems odd to me as well but who knows how "they" come up with these rules and regulations?
By the way, there was another Walther pistol banned from import at the same time, the TPH model. It was a small, VERY elegant .22 pistol. Very few were imported before the ban so it's a scarce article here. I've seen one once, about 40 years ago, and it was a beauty!
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 I just looked it up, the TPH is a beauty, shame you didn't buy it. So are things like Baby Browning's etc also banned from import?
Can’t wait Tom and Randy!!!
The customs in the country i am in are about the same as yours even thought it was legal for me to ship a replica stg 44, they rejected it and confiscated the replica and on top of that i was some what fined. I find that was because of the insane curruption in the country.
Great treasure!!!! 😍😍😍😍
How often do guns go permanently missing during transit?
Dam ,,,,,, there awesome,,,, wonder what's in the other box's 🙂
They rejected the guns probably in an attempt to get them into their personal collections.
The two letters are YA and FA in arabic on the PP.
Oh damn… this will be fun to try out.
I’ll take the G Date Navy!
I love these sales pitches! I shouldn't watch them as I like the toys but the prices keep me out, that and the problem of getting items shipped here.
Very nice, those PP's 👌
Fun fact: Simson is mostly known for its Motor bikes and scooters. So you can legally open carry a Simson in Germany but usually it carries its owner.
Tom, how did the prices you paid in Germany compare to prices in the US?
Prices were lower but by the time I paid all of the fee and import taxes it didnt turn out as well as I would have liked. A few I actually will lose money on.
I’m curious to see if the 35A is one of the first 500 inspected by Mauser w/the E/655 or if it’s the later more common E/251?
It is eagle 251. 😢
@@thomaswhiteman4261 I’m regretting not buying a E/655 I came across at the recent SOS. It would have cost me my whole budget tho. Although I did bring home a beautiful complete 251 rig for one heck of a price!
A shame that you can not import the ppk or any shorter barrelled pistols. So much heritage lost because of it.
is the python in time? and when was it made?
I don’t remember 😂. Sure
Don't lose those rubber Python grips. I have not seen them for sale recently.
Must be nice to not even remember what you bought and I’m glad you have all these beautiful guns so I can look at them at least but having budget to buy three large boxes of guns is impressive 😂
Hello from Sweden 🇸🇪
For things like the PPK could you have the barrels swapped for longer dummy barrels or something like that and then send the original barrels along with them? I know it’d be a faff but I don’t know if that’s something possible if there’s a pistol you really want or something?
Love your channel. You have a lot more faith in our gov't than I do.
How does importing them work? are you the importer or you go through someone?
I am the importer but we also need a German exporter.
Great content
Love the videos!
The problem with imports is that they have to be "import marked". Kills half the value of the collectability of them. Literally for NO REASON other than "it's the 1968 law". It sucks.
That really depends on the purchasers point of view. Many may turn up their noses at import marks but there's a hell of a lot more in this day and age who won't.
O OstSee try Baltic sea❤
Oven mitts!
Very nice
WELLDONE ALL/
Good Lord, where were they hiding this stuff!!!??
Are there any import markings on them?
Yardsale
Are these import marked?
I have a 1977 Walther PPK/S 9MM K with the Bavarian State Police ( Bayerischer Landes Polizei) BYP, property stamp marking next to the serial number. There is only one.
I thought I saw a SACM 1935A in the group but I guess I was wrong.
Take a look when Turkey stopped using the Arabic script and moved over to using the Latin script.
It was 1928.
What’s the deaths head marking mean?
Unless I'm wrong that means it was SS issue.
Seems to be a ww1 pistol from 1918 ( 1918 Stamp ) ,the "Deathead" symbol was also used by the " Braunschweigisches Husaren Regiment Nr. 17 (17th Braunschweig "Death's Head" Hussar Cavalry Regiment ) " , Sturmtruppen , Flamethrower-troops & Panzer-troops during ww 1 ( prior the Freikorps after ww1 & Waffen SS & Panzer Division during ww2 ) . During ww1 Ace pilot Leutnant Georg von Hantelmann (9 October 1898 - 7 September 1924) credited with winning 25 victories during World War I was also a former member of the 17th Braunschweig "Death Head" Hussar Regiment & used the "Deaths Head" symbol on his Aircraft .
Anton Ludwig Friedrich August von Mackensen (born Mackensen; 6 December 1849 - 8 November 1945), ennobled as "von Mackensen" . Mackensen impressed Kaiser Wilhelm II, who ordered that Mackensen be given command from 17 June 1893 of the 1st Life Hussars Regiment (Leib-Husaren-Regiment Nr. 1) he often wore the distinctive death's head uniform thereafter. During World War I (1914-1918) he became one of the German Empire's most prominent and competent military leaders .
By "East Sea" you presumably mean the Baltic Sea
How do you become a VIP?
Time folks to get your high boots on. Getting deep from the start.
I like that Python best 😄
where do you buy them from in germany ?
Any golden eagle lugers or artillery long barrel
Try concrete work!
Can I buy one of those Lugers?
The faster you move the guns ,the better I can see them......!
I think the one you are calling turkish is actually Egyptian
12:00 Türkiye adopted Latin script in 1929 the same year Walther invented the PP, prior to this date the Ottoman Empire used Arabic script, Farsi is the language of Persia (Iran) so if this gun is WWII ( Türkiye was neutral ) it won’t be Turkish
What's Türkiye? Did you mean Turkey?
@@ArnoSchmidt70 The correct name for the country is Türkiye
Turkey is what Americans have for thanksgiving
How to have contact with you
Zig210 best gun in the World
The ATF can't have you importing Fully Semi Automatic pistols, sir.
That Walther Model 6 wasn't a full-auto pistol, it was a WW1 expedient semi-auto pistol made in 9mm Luger (Parabellum) when the German Army badly needed pistols and they couldn't make enough Lugers. A simple blow-back design it was less than perfect and was dropped from the Walther line post-war.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706
"Fully *Semi* Automatic"
@@Foche_T._Schitt I think both you and I know there's no such thing as a "fully semi-automatic pistol." It's either got a full-auto selector switch or it doesn't and the Walther Model 6 didn't, in 9mm Luger it would have been uncontrollable if it did. It's a semi-auto like a Luger or a P-38.
I edited my original comment after doing a little more research just to clarify things.
I suspect Customs is sitting on the thing because they don't know what it is, those pistols are a relatively scarce item.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706
(((Woosh)))
It's a joke. Some reporter trying to demonize guns used that line.
Aaaaa🤩 WW1 Beauties 😭
nothing to say abouth the python?? nice selection
What is name of one in thumbnail?
Looks like a p210
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The described German pistols. How were they purchaced? Were they illegal at a time og are they all legallly sold to you. Punishment for illegal guns in Denmark is at least two years in the link.
"We need more of you who are competent to do this."
I disagree. We need less bureaucracy. Especially when it comes to firearms and firearms importation. "Shall not be infringed" doesn't mean "Shall not be infringed EXCEPT for importing the pistols which don't reach the points requirement as set by the Gun Control Act of 1968".
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It was better when you were behind the box!!lol. You guys need a beautiful woman to do your videos lol.... Much better than Tom😅
Eh. Tom reminds me of the cool neighbor with fancy stuff. Simpler times.
Definitely not a Turkish contract gun.
Cherry pick for "VIP's?"
How much does one need to spend to gain that distinction? I have spent over $20K acquiring items for my collection from you over the past several years (10+ separate orders). I have never received a notification from you with regards to any new "cherry picked" items. I don't do "patreon" I figure my loyalty and purchase history with you ought to be enough.
Kind of lame if you ask me...
Maybe call or email and ask instead of leaving a comment
Those rejected firearms my have sat next to a empty box that once help a pistol brace or bumpstock and a time dilation affected the ATF agents ptsd …I’m sure it will be fine once the Bud-lite leaves the officers system….
I hate watching your channel....
for a good reason.
Every time I watch your channel I want to spend $100,000.00 dollars!!!!😄😄
so very dangerous for all inhabbitant copy,especially for human in indonesia who are stupid