Lucky and Meyer put this forward and they formed the commission. Brilliant. Those two were my favorite. Thank you 💛 so much, I really enjoy listening about the great ones and how what they put together.
According to Paul Sann in his classic book, "Kill the Dutchman," another reason Luciano had to bump off Dutch was that Lucky had been in contact with Dutch's No. 2, Bo Weinberg, about taking over the numbers rackets in partnership with Weinberg. Sann described Bo as interested. Bruce Willis plays the doomed Bo in the famous cement overshoes scene in "Billy Bathgate." Just another reason Lucky was pissed off at Dutch. Luciano did get the numbers racket (minus Abbadaba Berman, alas) when the smoke cleared at the Palace Chop House; Lepke got everything else. Business is business. Sann's story of how Dutch got control of the numbers rackets in Harlem and East Harlem is precious. His tale of Dutch's last ramblings is also excellent.
At least one guy gets it. Interesting side note… Jewish gangsters lasted only one generation. It never passed down to their kids. They weren’t gangsters in the old country. It was out of sheer immigrant desperation. Then it stopped.
At 57 I recently learned my grandmothers cousin was Harry (Happy) Maione (mayone). This I learned while in NY attending my mothers funeral. My paternal grandmother Olga Del Buono's family came from Fume Freddo near Calabria. Harry was not a point of pride in the family. My grandfather Joseph Mascaro was a doctor his brothers worked to pay for his degree. He later took care of them. The subject matter of your conversation is off point - cocaine? Vs alcohol? Harry was from what I hear, very conscious of the danger he brought to family with simple visits. Sounds like you did a google search on the subject. So much more to it all.
I know that place to Palace Chophouse it's not there but the street it's on is around the corner from a place I hang out at I can imagine all that going on that night
Maione is pronounced May-Own, according mobsters: murder Inc. a show from the biography channel they made about these guys a few years ago. Great episode! If you ever do a tour of gangsters in NY, let us know!
Harry Maione had an African American girlfriend. I bet there wasn’t many people heckling them. Harry was a notorious practical joker during jobs. He once dressed like a female on a hit. Fascinating character indeed.
I could never understand why a great country like america let this happen in thier country ,and all these movies that make great heroes of these poeple....
@@מיכאלזיידמן Because America is infatuated with violence. When these gangs and the subsequent movies were released was during one of the worst recessions ever and the outlaws were glorified and admired by the public.
I had family in murder inc and the purple gang. I’m Jewish obviously and I have no pride in these guys they were a scourge. But I hear the way you’re putting it I get it. 914
apparently dutch shultz had money stashed away in gold coins or something, crazy amounts of money. can't remember where exactly i heard but he was definately this same character
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My mom did the printing for a Youngstown mob club in Columbus called the Agura back in the early 70's. She saw Queen live there before they were big. They had a lot of big acts.
I grew up in Brownsville in the 70's and 80's. We were a Black and Puerto-Rican neighborhood by then. I'm Black, and as I listen to you ( the American ) speak, you sound like a White guy to me. And you sound much younger than me. You claimed to have hung out in Brownsville, I'm assuming for research purposes. But I wonder how were you able to do so. It's a pretty scary place, then and now. ( I love your telling of Murder Inc. history by the way ) So how'd you do it? You couldn't pay me to go near that place by now. I'd be scared to death.
It's really not that scary now compared to how it was when you grew up. New York in general isn't close to what it was. When you look at the murder rate in a city like st louis, or hang out in north st louis at night, it's a lot worse than nyc. Now, NYC in the 70's, 80's, 90's? Different story. But yeah, I worked a crime reporter in NYC 13-14 years ago so was in Brownsville often, and I used to kick it with some west indians that had parties there in the summer every so often.
@@masonmiller9907 lol you just said you weren't subscribing, no one cares what you think. we've got 20k others who seem to enjoy it enough without us even putting up video.
Please do a episode on the demise of Kinahan crime group! Their leader had been managing fighters on espn like Tyson fury! Dubai just seized their assets
Mary, I can't express to you how little anyone cares. Go make your own podcast. We have 25,000 weekly listeners and separate respected journalism careers. Go elsewhere and stop whining.
Too much idle chitchat by Sean ruining the rhythm of the story. You may not like this criticism but it is what it is and I’m not the only one to recognize this.
No...he only went as a troubled youngsters under Cus de Mato's boxing school, whose training camp was in the Catskills...he was born and raised in Brownsville....NY
Maybe I’m late to this conversation but I can’t help but agree that Sean is adding just idle talk out of boredom just interrupting way more than contributing anything relevant to the video. I guess I’m not alone.
Yea it was a bit of a dumb Qn! "Where are the Jewish coming from, From Nazi Germany"? Right after the other guy had said it was 1920! Lol.. Scratching head. WWII was in the 40's champ
Broadwalk empire covered this well, very interesting time, good episode lads
HOODLUM Film was long before that, tim roth plays Dutch
@Eli Lis no way. It was formed in the 1930s.
@@darrentinonzii340Billy Bathgate was good too, I actually liked Dustin Hoffman as Dutch a lot better than I did Tim Roth
I’m puertorican and the Albanians in the Bronx made the gambinos disperse like RAID your absolutely correct
Lucky and Meyer put this forward and they formed the commission. Brilliant. Those two were my favorite. Thank you 💛 so much, I really enjoy listening about the great ones and how what they put together.
Just found your podcasts! Love from Northern Ireland
Proddy
@@rrymo4079 🤧🤧🤧
Some of us in Brooklyn say that Ocean Hill and Brownsville are the same thing.
Give Christopher Walken his credit: "If a nickle bag is sold in the park, I want in!"
Yo facts !! lol
According to Paul Sann in his classic book, "Kill the Dutchman," another reason Luciano had to bump off Dutch was that Lucky had been in contact with Dutch's No. 2, Bo Weinberg, about taking over the numbers rackets in partnership with Weinberg. Sann described Bo as interested. Bruce Willis plays the doomed Bo in the famous cement overshoes scene in "Billy Bathgate." Just another reason Lucky was pissed off at Dutch.
Luciano did get the numbers racket (minus Abbadaba Berman, alas) when the smoke cleared at the Palace Chop House; Lepke got everything else. Business is business.
Sann's story of how Dutch got control of the numbers rackets in Harlem and East Harlem is precious. His tale of Dutch's last ramblings is also excellent.
Yes, good book!
At least one guy gets it.
Interesting side note…
Jewish gangsters lasted only one generation.
It never passed down to their kids.
They weren’t gangsters in the old country.
It was out of sheer immigrant desperation.
Then it stopped.
At 57 I recently learned my grandmothers cousin was Harry (Happy) Maione (mayone). This I learned while in NY attending my mothers funeral. My paternal grandmother Olga Del Buono's family came from Fume Freddo near Calabria. Harry was not a point of pride in the family. My grandfather Joseph Mascaro was a doctor his brothers worked to pay for his degree. He later took care of them. The subject matter of your conversation is off point - cocaine? Vs alcohol? Harry was from what I hear, very conscious of the danger he brought to family with simple visits. Sounds like you did a google search on the subject. So much more to it all.
Even though Charlie Workman was Jewish he worked exclusively for Luciano he represented Luciano on that hit Mandy Weiss represented lepke
I grew up in Miami and couldn't help but to be around mafia. They were everywhere. Wild times.
Tyson was from Brownsville
Cus DaMato trained him up in Catskill
I know that place to Palace Chophouse it's not there but the street it's on is around the corner from a place I hang out at I can imagine all that going on that night
Maione is pronounced May-Own, according mobsters: murder Inc. a show from the biography channel they made about these guys a few years ago. Great episode! If you ever do a tour of gangsters in NY, let us know!
Well duh.
Harry Maione had an African American girlfriend. I bet there wasn’t many people heckling them. Harry was a notorious practical joker during jobs. He once dressed like a female on a hit. Fascinating character indeed.
I could never understand why a great country like america let this happen in thier country ,and all these movies that make great heroes of these poeple....
@@מיכאלזיידמן Because America is infatuated with violence. When these gangs and the subsequent movies were released was during one of the worst recessions ever and the outlaws were glorified and admired by the public.
Me too, do the tour. The dash-cam Italian dude. He goes to the church that used to be the Gemini Louge, where the Gemini murder method was perfected.
Rich Cohen's book was a real eye opener and educated the reader Murder inc . Lepke the leopard was the only mob boss to get the electric chair .
I had family in murder inc and the purple gang. I’m Jewish obviously and I have no pride in these guys they were a scourge. But I hear the way you’re putting it I get it.
914
Tony Curtis made a movie called Lepke
Where he played the title character
i would like for you to list the 30 to 40 mob guys killed within 2 days of Maranzano getting whacked.
Right I was thinking hard about that 😂😂
Great episode, fellas
Where can I find the main photo being used during the narration for purchase or download?
Anyone interested in any of this material should check out a book called
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Nash it's an encyclopedia of true crime
My 6th great uncle is in book 2 of that series. Google William Preston Longley
Guys when is the next podcast please? Something to look forward to also are you going to cover Ecuador Please. Kind Regards.
Please do Bumpy Johnson!
apparently dutch shultz had money stashed away in gold coins or something, crazy amounts of money. can't remember where exactly i heard but he was definately this same character
You heard it on every documentary about him lol
How is doing O.C. podcasts your things but you don't know about Murder inc or Cosa Nostra?
Who wrote that intro ? That was the best part of this
We did.
@@TheUnderworldPodcast well done
Murder inc is the edgiest name I’ve ever heard
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By Mike Mazursky
Recklessness was a different kind of freedom...
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Lepke was never the leader of murder inc, he was just the guy who called on them regularly
To do a hit
Who was the leader? Anastasia?
background music is way too loud.
Turn the volume down then, or pay for it.
Please do a video on Ohio organized crime! Appreciation from Youngstown
My mom did the printing for a Youngstown mob club in Columbus called the Agura back in the early 70's. She saw Queen live there before they were big. They had a lot of big acts.
5:18 i totally agree
I had only heard about murder inc from an episode of the west wing. Communications director Toby Ziegler’s father was in murder inc.
Are they sure it ended
Can you do a Video on daniel kinahan?
bro we did in our 3rd episode
@@TheUnderworldPodcast awesome thanks I will watch it
Murder Inc is a movie they badly need to re-make when Hollywood get done with all this Mavel shit. Tom Hanks as Dewey for me!
I grew up in Brownsville in the 70's and 80's. We were a Black and Puerto-Rican neighborhood by then. I'm Black, and as I listen to you ( the American ) speak, you sound like a White guy to me. And you sound much younger than me. You claimed to have hung out in Brownsville, I'm assuming for research purposes. But I wonder how were you able to do so. It's a pretty scary place, then and now. ( I love your telling of Murder Inc. history by the way ) So how'd you do it? You couldn't pay me to go near that place by now. I'd be scared to death.
It's really not that scary now compared to how it was when you grew up. New York in general isn't close to what it was. When you look at the murder rate in a city like st louis, or hang out in north st louis at night, it's a lot worse than nyc. Now, NYC in the 70's, 80's, 90's? Different story. But yeah, I worked a crime reporter in NYC 13-14 years ago so was in Brownsville often, and I used to kick it with some west indians that had parties there in the summer every so often.
Narrator forgot Louis Buchalter when mentioning the Syndicate hierarchy.
my guy, Louis "Lepke" Buchalter is literally in the title of the video
Didn't Hoover once say there was no organized crime in America?
I was raised in newark deep ties to the under world in nj ppl just don’t know 🥸
@fantomas maybe back befor the 80s now it’s mostly run by gangs and drity
@fantomas I’n this order blacks 65% Spanish white other
anastasia came in on a work freighter and just stayed in the states
Watched a few episodes. Why do the Co host just be just blurting out weird stuff that has nothing to do with the stories you tell?🤦🏾♂️
Because it’s our podcast and we do what it want. Don’t like it? Don’t listen. We’re here to amuse yourselves and fans, not you.
Would have liked to give you a chance but got so little story telling in the first 10-15 min I lost interest. Good luck
oh no how will we ever survive without you
Lmao instead of take the criticism and use it to be better, you troll your own would be subscribers for your shortcomings?? Not a great plan 😂
@@masonmiller9907 lol you just said you weren't subscribing, no one cares what you think. we've got 20k others who seem to enjoy it enough without us even putting up video.
Please do a episode on the demise of Kinahan crime group! Their leader had been managing fighters on espn like Tyson fury! Dubai just seized their assets
Yes there was one in Boston and they were there own Italian gang but still obeyed NY
Europeans was the first gangsters in America
Murder Inc v DeMeo crew.
Murder inc not even close 1000 cross country bodies and richer
It's LEP- KEE...
Chicago does mob tours.
New boss same as the old boss.... you can't judge crummy jokes next pod lol
30-40 bosses in 2-3 days. Come on now
they weren't called "Murder inc" cause they were bad at murder
Too much "buddy chit-chat;" which is rather tiresome, and awkward.... Looking for a more professionally-presented channel, with smooth delivery....
Mary, I can't express to you how little anyone cares. Go make your own podcast. We have 25,000 weekly listeners and separate respected journalism careers. Go elsewhere and stop whining.
Too much idle chitchat by Sean ruining the rhythm of the story. You may not like this criticism but it is what it is and I’m not the only one to recognize this.
I thought Mike Tyson came from Catskills.
No...he only went as a troubled youngsters under Cus de Mato's boxing school, whose training camp was in the Catskills...he was born and raised in Brownsville....NY
No,...Stupid Background NOISE!
Mug off? That ain't American English....
It’s English English it means make a fool out of someone
The candy store, hey
As good as the podcast was, it would have been much better minus the British guy & those really lame jokes.
ALL about Business family s
This is not correct information
I’m sorry Sean ruins the show.
I said the same thing .. seems like he just listens til he hears a keyword that triggers a random thought that has nothing to do with the actual story
You know Sean leads like half the episodes too?
Maybe I’m late to this conversation but I can’t help but agree that Sean is adding just idle talk out of boredom just interrupting way more than contributing anything relevant to the video. I guess I’m not alone.
The banter makes the show in my opinion
Yeah, I’d be better if he just didn’t talk
The brownsville boy's
Kid twist
Music ruins presentation. Very poor
Yea it was a bit of a dumb Qn! "Where are the Jewish coming from, From Nazi Germany"?
Right after the other guy had said it was 1920! Lol..
Scratching head.
WWII was in the 40's champ
And people look up to the godfather movies POS. Extorting mom and pop shops aroun the world. Terrible
Read 👇👇👇👇👇👇
Kid Twist was a snitch
This horrible 😂
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Does anyone think the English guy is funny? Anybody?
Being Jew isn't a nationality it's a, religion
It's an Ethnicity. You can be an Agnostic or Atheist and still be a Jew. It's an Ancient Tribe, and membership passes through the Mother's Bloodline.
@@mattkarres3321if it’s an ethnicity why are are people allowed to convert to Judaism? You can’t convert into any other ethnicity