They must keep one thing the same.... The PvPvE option, as well as the PvE only option... This is a must, and such a solid choice on their end. Keeps both type of player happy.
Yes and if they make fractions vendors for example have different mods on PvPvE it would give you purpose to kill other fractions players and on PvE it would promote trading.
I had this exact idea! I was thinking sure this map has enemies that control territory, and most of the map is… empty. Maybe add AI that are in the fields and driving around. During war people keep living when they stay there. Also it could open the opportunity to do AI like Ready or Not where some AI might have guns but appear friendly at first. If you shoot them without a reason or without getting shot first you lose some rep or something idk
Its almost like people dont realize its still in the alpha stage 😅. If people cant handle bugs perhaps they shouldnt buy an Early Access title and opt to wait for full release.
Constant bugs are fine… unplayability and zero progression from endless crashing is a little different and has been somewhat discouraging. Hoping they can sort it out sooner than later as I have been really enjoying the game even after 60+ hours logged.
@@EIohymn again this loops back to the devs never claiming this EA launch would be a stable, bug-free experience. This is what I truly do not understand from so many of the "critics". They will complain on end that the unfinished, buggy, performance-issue riddled Early Access game is an unfinished, buggy, performance-issue riddled Early Access game. Which was never claimed otherwise by the devs.
It's been great so far. Few things to change...inconsistent/complete lack of hit reg on enemies but they can turn and 1 bang me with a shot from the hip at 500m through a forest of cover. Second, even supressed and at range the enemies know exactly where I am after the first shot and come straight at me. Third, servers stuttering all over the place, I get it's early days but I have not seen this kind of rubber banding in a looooong time. Forth, helicopters, it's like waiting for a bus only to be constantly greeted with "request denied" often waiting over 10 minutes to go anywhere or get back to base. Either give us more helicopters, our own dedicated helicopters, make flights a hell of a lot faster or a combo of all the above. I would love stuff just out there in the jungle like old war remains/relics, add a bit more depth. I appreciate the devs are constantly delivering updates, it's really positive to see and the game has soooo much potential!
Yesterday i got killed by flying npc, not floating above ground but FLYING, dude was at the height of trees tried to shoot him but apparently his hitbox was still somewhere on the ground ;/ Still lets give them more time to polish the game!
@@Creationeer I wish ;/ I forgot to enable recording on geforce now and didn't get to clip that... I was fumming for 15 minutes after that tbh since it happened like 100 meters before i could get new landing spot..
I love the pve version, i met people from other factions and made friends, when the ability to kill eachother is no option people Get to be friendly, i also meet friendly enemies from other factions in pvp and we run around and did quests together, but its more rare in pvp
I enjoy it even playing 90% solo but can’t wait for the AI to get adjusted so we aren’t taking on the Terminator at just about every gun fight. And early access stage for “a few years” is like being in purgatory but at least we can play it while it develops.
I mean look at baldurs gate 3, it was in early access for 3 years and look at how great it turned out. obviously different genre, devs etc. but I'm fine with a game being in early access for a longer time. as long as it is playable and the devs actually do dev things, I wont complain
I might be the minority here. I dont mind them being cracked as shit and some being brainless. Having them all mixed together makes you not know which youre gonna get. A little more fun for me
Let them give us early access so we can give them money to finish this game! Im already really enjoying this game with my friend and i really want them to be able to finish it! Feel bored? Quit this game and come back after idk 1 to 3 months? I bet there will be a lot more content! And even though im really against p2w [this game has p2w] im fine with it since its not like in some other games where you can just buy crazy items and boost your character, yeah sure people get more weapons at start and money but they are not crazy modded or anything like that. To be clear i have basic version of the game.
I think the sole focus should be optimization fixes just to allow people to get into the game, even if they add features if its still unplayable for most cards and that will stop a bigger playerbase from existing.
I like the look of the game & the pvevp. I hope they put binoculars in it soon, I like tactical shooters but scouting and recon should be a big part of that IMHO and not having binos seems like a bit of a miss.
I like the idea of the skill system. People aren’t static and all equal, it makes sense that someone who shoots a lot long distance would be able to hold steadier than others, or someone may be a long distance runner while others can carry more but move slower. Neat idea instead of just level grinding.
A unique skill system based on the players' achievments and not a grind means, for example, the sniping skill level by tasks triggered by you hitting long shots. The next time you visit a vendor, he will say, " i see you hit a long shot, i have a job for you," and after you complete that task, you get points in that skill. It's pretty unique and cool. Not having to reload a bolty 1000x or run 10k km to max a skill.
The PVP tasks is something I don’t agree with, something that makes this game fun and likeable for everyone is the fact that you can do everything on PVE if you want to, I think adding variety to the tasks is good but I would like them not to force everyone into PVP, I personally play in both game modes and think it’s very fun to play.
One easy thing to make PVP more attractive would be adding Tarkov-style dogtags that can then be sold (Artisan seems like a possible buyer with her dislike for mercs). Balances the much higher chances to lose gear with a way to earn a lot more cash than PVE.
Id love a "vault" system similar to sea of theaves. Join a server, find the access keys, then raid the bunker. Have it maybe trigger an alarm when the doors open and give a time limit before ai arrive, so you can pick between getting the best loot or getting in and out quick without a fight.
I would like to see them add a stats feature as well, not necessarily because I wanna compare KD, but if I am playing with friends, I'd like to know my accuracy rating, how many enemies I killed or assisted with, this way I can make adjustments to gear or loadout if needed.
All this is great but nothing compares to LZ campers. It’s the most frustrating part of Gray Zone. They need to fix this now. Another thing is the Ai hipfires headshots me 8 times out of 10. I literally have to sprint the second the Asian guy goes like “Hey, who you”. Another thing is they need to nerf the Ai because sometimes they’re bullet sponges and they’re wearing nothing but a Tshirt and a back pack and somehow one shots me after dumping 1 and a half mags on his torso.
So far digging the game and how the dev is approaching development of the game as well as involved with the community. It needs work but has potential. Hope they can get the game stable network-wised and optimized game-wised so then to build off a good foundation.
I'd love to see AI improvements. Currently, bots can tank 20 AP bullets and will often dome you through bushes. On the matter of objectives, I'd say they should prioritize quality quantity. I'd love to see more quests that aren't just "grab x" or "kill x". Also, some of them are way too vague; If you tell me to toss a package into the sea, my first instinct is to do just that (not press f on a specific part of the water).
I'm having a blast with the game. My only quibbles so far are both the usual "to be fixed" with Early Access. One is performance (a RTX 3070 having so much stuttering and frame drops is not exactly what I'd call "average", but it's UE5 and not a fully released game so that's something that can be fixed), and the other is the amount of rubber banding and server-related performance with South American servers (out of every 10 servers I join, probably 8 run like ass, the other 2 run well)
I must say.. I am madly in love with this game. For an Early Access title, the speed and attentiveness of the Devs just has me in 7th Heaven. I've had some of most intense PvP escapes, the most intense PvE ambushes while you're playing field medic on a downed ally while you're other 2 friends are laying down fire to protect, all in a lush, GORGEOUS environment. The medicine system really is a game changer. The length of engagements can greatly expand all things considered. It's really hard to catch lightning in a bottle, but maybe, just maybe, Madfinger can pull it off. They have me and my friends support, and I am so hopeful and excited for what the future brings to this game. Bra-fucking-vo.
They should add more enemies close to the paths of the Helis so you can use them as target practice so a ride can at least feel engaging and not just a cinematic.
i think that the longer a player keeps their pmc alive, without dying and spawning back at base, their skills should increase, stamina, arm strength drain, hydration and energy levels dissipate slower, increased accuracy, etc. but once you die, reset back to base skills, that would be FIRE, kind of like specialist bonus..but for mil sim..
Day night cycle sounds great. Fixing the AI so they have a cone of vision and a sound sensor around them will make steath and suppressors viable. Rotating PVP locations is an idea, and during the rotate they can add extra landing zones to the area. adding animals in the woods would fit as well. Vehicles to traverse the map and pay for helicopter transport (in game cash). So everyone isn't spamming them. Enemy faction strongholds. That we can have weekly or monthly raids on. There are alot of issues, but damn the game has great potential. And a personal, I know this game isn't about horror. But adding creatures(like monsters) to the middle zone would feel terrifying with how the gunplay works. Maybe a dlc or separate game mode.
They definitely need to look at the moa they have. Cuz m700 has moa of 1.1 yet somehow when ur aiming at the head from distance it misses by 5 inches yet Mosin has 1.4 and tends to hit it's target
I've got something like 65 hours so far, and I'm genuinely enjoying it. I think it's a good game to begin with, and for a game that's only like 2 weeks old, it's actually really good. The PvE mode is all I care about, because that's exactly what I wanted this game to be. Admittedly, I have not had the serious issues that I've heard about (hours-long queues, sub-30 fps performance, constant crashes, or character/inventory deletions), but I only have a few high priority things I want changed. 1. Mantling needs improvement. A rock or log that rises 1 foot off the ground is not enough to bring you to a dead stop; you should be able to step over it with ease, without needing jump stamina. Same thing with the big flat boulders that slope into the river. Getting onto those is a bitch, and shouldn't be. 2. Pistols and shotguns need buffing, in that order. I'm not saying they need to become superweapons, but they're literally useless right now. I shot an un-helmeted enemy in the head literally 5 times with a pistol before he died. 3. AI enemies need their hearing and vision turned down just a bit. It seems like there's no way to truly sneak up on an enemy, and I had one literally hear me take out my knife (I was crouched and totally stationary; he didn't react to me being there until I pulled out my knife). They also routinely shoot you through foliage that they have no business seeing you through. Simply put, if I can't see you, you can't see me. Stuff like increased mission type variety and achievement-based skills also sound really good, but those 3 are my top picks for the "Devs Plz Fix" list.
You know I had some pretty high hopes for this game. it was the best money i've ever spent. this game currently does what no other game is doing. being able to sit in a fob in a live server with helicopters coming in and out with dudes on mission is absolutely amazing. Playing credence clear water while landing back at the FOB surrounded by a bunch of PMC's everyone's partying having a good time. of course the performance issues with some people systems is an issue I understand that personally I have not felt any performance issues with my 40 series card. maybe the helicopter ride jumping down from 120fps to 90. in some spots. This game is amazing the visuals the sound I've never played anything like it I am so excited for the future of this game. I bought the standard edition then I bought the tactical then the elite now today I'm buying the big boy version
@@mtbSTL don’t tell me what I’m getting. What kind of an idiot does that? You’re talking out the side of your neck. 4070 5600 X max settings DLSS on with frame GEN 122 FPS. I’m currently on right now US west servers come in the fob so I can punch you in the face.
How are you "not having performance issues" when you're dropping to 20 fps in the helicopter. Dropping to 20 fps in the helicopter tells me you have a low end 40 series card. The other thing that tells me you have a low end 40 series card is you not mentioning which 40 series card you have
I love this game so much even if I crashed a lot on my old pc, but after the upgrade it runs like a charm. They really need to optimize for older gen card before adding this much stuff. I used to crash when fighting on my 2070 super, haven’t crashed once with 4070 super ti, but still rubber banding
I just hope they get rid of key quests. Keys should be for good loot, not blocking your progression. I haven't found a single needed key and have only been able to progress those tasks when I get lucky and someone had already opened the door when I got there. Progression should not be based on RNG.
The skill based on achievements is going to be more like this . Example , u want to be able to hold ur breath longer when scoped in , u go to the fob u take a physical test maybe theres 30 targets hit them all as quickly as u can while holding ur breath and depending on how well u do u get a score and that will give determine the level of that skill , this eliminates the "grinders" for example u want to sprint longer so typically in games if u run around a lot ur sprint stamina will increase however people grind these by putting on an auto run plug-in etc to cheat it ... greyzone doesnt like that so a physical test where u cant cheat and have to actually use skill is what the system will be like
Yeah I got 2 tapped in the chest from 200+M by an AI with an AK74M and a red dot, while I was sitting in a tree line and some bushes firing a suppressed mosin. The AI definitely need some tweeking as well as the helo issue so players aren't spending 15+ minutes not in the game. First though they need better server stability. I would like to see a skill progression that lasts through wipes for thinks like stamina, thirst, and hunger drain, weight limit, and all other nice passives that don't have a direct impact on combat.
Yeah I've got to level 13, I've sort of lost interest but I definitely want to go back when it's more developed. I got the supporter pack as I want to support the developers. It's by no means a finished product. If anyone does, you don't know what early access means haha.
I LOVE the actual gameplay of GZW. I hate wating 7 minutes for a chopper or not even getting one... Ofc i also hate the performance issues and server lagginess...
Add a gun slot to your back, add more immersive quests. Add faction based stuff where maybe, Lamang is fixing radio towers all over the map, Crimson needs to sabotage the towers, and Mithras needs to get kills and extract dog tags from the players within range of the towers. That would push PvP play and also combat extract camping since people arent rewarded for those kills. Increase chopper speed? And decrease the audio of the pilot. He needs to have his audio EQ’d better as the S sounds are coming through way to sharp
We already have additional gun slot in our bag, just give us hotkey to switch without going into invetory! To make up for switching weapons from bag to hand maybe just make animation bit longer? BUT LET ME DO IT WITH HOTHEY!!!
@@AkameHatake yeah I don’t disagree, but if I may compare this to a game like Tarkov, I can have 1 gun on my back that I can switch to, and others in my bag. I guess the bag size is maybe a little small imo? I don’t see the point of PvP either because gear is so cheap, and there’s just no point to going back to fight over your original gear… then if you win, you have your original gun, and the enemies gun, if it was just 1 other guy you’re fighting. It can be a bit difficult to fit the recovered weapon and the enemies weapon along with needing to take yours back too. I get doing it for the fun… I guess? I went full circle though and am back playing Tarkov cause it just has a more enjoyable gameplay loop. Loading screen isn’t a helicopter lagging around half the time.
@@thepunisher9928 Yeah backpack could be a bit bigger i agree still, im able to carry 3-5 additional weapons back to base with my backpack but i need to forfeit all of the different loot, sometimes i would just take just few mods from the weapons. Yeah i bet Tarkov has more to game, its been on the market for quite some time, i would say it will take half a year before this game has more enjoyable loop. Try playing again in the future!
I just logged off. I had wiped my character and was doing the recon mission again. By the gas station I saw a large group of maybe 8 AI running west. I was like "wtf, never seen that before". Then I fired at two guys in the gas station and was leaving when that large group came back. They cornered me in a small house and I had an epic firefight. The AI cannot open doors yet thank god. And they seem to have trouble navigating walls. But I have never seen such a large group before.
deserts and urban landscapes? no we have too many of that. also, a desert near a tropic biome doesnt make sense either. the map being a tropical jungle is such a breathe of fresh air from every fps out there. some urban landscapes isn't too bad either.
I'm already playing on low settings because my 3060 can't take the FPS drops. Even then am I playing with quite low FPS. Soon I will have a 4090 built in my newly built desktop but still, lots of people have 3060's, 3070ti, etc still . I can't imagine how the FPS will be when time and weather are added to the game.
One problem i have with the gane is long range shooting. I finally unlocked banshee lvl 2 so i could put a supressor on my m700. I went up next fort narith and found that there were no ai rendered in from 500m. I had 3 friendlies at the base and they werent rendered either. Total buzzkill. Why have 25x scopes in the game and zeroing up to a kilometer and not render ai at 500m? Totally killed my excitement
AI patrols would be cool, they need to rework the key system.. the grind isn’t fun the way the open world is set up with spawn rates, shared targets for 3, 16 -player factions ..
I"m loving this game I think about this game at work I'm excited to play when I get home that's how I judge my games. After 30 hrs played my personal suggestions for gameplay are 4 things. More Loot.. enemies, POI's and the traders all have the same loot I really hope this changes soon. We need rare items to extract with or more items for level 3 traders everyone looks the same right now. Better optimization Nerf the AI gang mentality. Even a suppressed kill on a solo AI (from far away) alerts them all within seconds to your position.. the stealth gameplay is lacking here More Helicopters. Having to wait 5 mins for an available Helicopter just wait another 5 for it to arrive becomes a burnout.
I’d love to see some jeeps and ATVs to maneuver around instead of taking the helicopter. No mounted machine guns or anything wild like that tho could make pvp kinda annoying.
AI needs to be the top priority. They can be absolute bullet sponges and never go down unless you get a headshot. Also need to fix line of sight and accuracy of the AI.
Personally. Having a little bonus to playing pvp over pve would be awesome. But I don't think it should be pvp get the BEST stuff. I enjoy pve most. But I do think pvp should get some extra benefits since in general it is harder
Que for Helicopters, Helping players in a squad quest eg killing 20 people squad can complete this as a task rather than individually doing this. More OCE servers 🇦🇺
You won't ever see PvP focused objectives or tasks. The developers made it very clear since day one before the release of their game that PvP is second to the story of the game, that they will never release a task or mission that requires you to kill another player.
Some kind of perks connected with achievements would be great, like snipe an enemy from 500m and be able to get perk that would improve your sniper weapon handling by 10%. I think this would be great, after playing for 20h i felt like im lacking some kind of perks in this game. And im all for some kind of player private hideout, let me spend cash to get more space for items! IM A LOOT GOBLIN! Fractions really should get different benefits, be it different weapons/mods it would already change it a bit and worth killing players from different fractions. Crafting? Yes please, but don't make vendors sell everything to you, by that i mean to not give all the atachments to npc just a part or make it so different fractions get different mods like i said above. I really would like to see more customization. I feel like im gonna quit this game soon, but i for sure will come back when more content is added! Im really satisfied with game already but it for sure can be made into something bigger and greater!
I've decided to keep the game but wait for updates/improvements. Got like 8hrs of game time, not much happened in those. Mostly fetch quests with not very smart AI, and no PvP encounters due to the starting location, which is fine. Rubberbanding was terrible though, and the hit reg felt very off even on AI. Performance is also a big issue for me. Not being able to hit 120+ frames at 1440p even on low settings suck. Image quality also sucks, even at native res. Shader comp stutter is a mess, but hey, that's Unreal 5 for you, I guess. Overall the game is very much a PvE game first and foremost, and that doesn't impress me too much. It could be very fun to have a 3 faction war, taking land and POIs and getting dynamic rewards on those, triggering events to attack bases and FOBs of the other factions and so on. But I don't feel like that's the vision here, and I feel like for it to be fun and dynamic it has to have a lot more players per server, and somewhat of a cross server progression so you feel attached to the objectives you helped conquer.
Several years for full release is kinda a turnoff to be honest, would love to see a bit more chaos on the map like groundsupport, airsupport on the PvE servers for both PMCs and Local military
@@jonathanoriley8260 Maybe that's only with some setups. I've not experienced any noticeable input lag and I've used frame generation the entire time. I've even turned off any potentially conflicting settings which included anti lag. You could try messing with your GPU settings outside of game. Win10 + 5800X3D + 5700 XT
@@iDeagles That's because you have an AMD card. I have a RTX 3070Ti, so FSR doesn't work entirely correctly. With that said, it's honestly absurd that FSR works better and gives me more frames (without frame gen) than DLSS. How the NVIDIA software doesn't work better on NVIDIA hardware than the AMD software speaks to how poorly GZW is optimized for NVIDIA cards that aren't a 40XX series...
If the Devs optimised better, I would bet so many more people would purchase the highest tier early access payment. Oh and hit reg and damage. I shouldnt be seeing a dude in a doo rag have blood explode out of his head 8 times before going down.
Well yea ur a eft bot who just runs the same exact path every time and second someone says no take a difference route u act like they asked u to the impossible
Yea toggle lean not being in the game day one is just insane. Like for console I would have understood but it's a pc only right now and yall dont have something every other realistic shooter does is crazy
@@45atanner absolutely. even on console you could use m&k so even there it makes no sense not to have it. i used to play cod on ps5 with m&k. tried to solve it in grayzone with macros but its so janky.
They must keep one thing the same....
The PvPvE option, as well as the PvE only option...
This is a must, and such a solid choice on their end. Keeps both type of player happy.
Yes and if they make fractions vendors for example have different mods on PvPvE it would give you purpose to kill other fractions players and on PvE it would promote trading.
Big facts!
The devs actually prefer calling it PvEvP because PvE comes before PvP in their design philosophy. Which I think is a good solid choice.
why would there be a desert in the jungle? brain deficient
They should close down the PVE only mode, as this is just a burden on the server. They should focus on the PVP aspect
id love to see ai patrolling the streets in vehicules and what not
I had this exact idea! I was thinking sure this map has enemies that control territory, and most of the map is… empty. Maybe add AI that are in the fields and driving around. During war people keep living when they stay there. Also it could open the opportunity to do AI like Ready or Not where some AI might have guns but appear friendly at first. If you shoot them without a reason or without getting shot first you lose some rep or something idk
I was chatting with a friendly yesterday about this. I also like the ideas moose listed as well
Like Division, Ghost recon, every other game...
that would be awesome. In a way that Ghost Recon: Wildlands did it
Like real life narco patrols good idea
Philippines version can have beat up Toyota with 50 cal😅
Its almost like people dont realize its still in the alpha stage 😅. If people cant handle bugs perhaps they shouldnt buy an Early Access title and opt to wait for full release.
I like other people's complaints about not releasing games in early access blah blah blah. And then buy it anyway. 😂😂😂
Preach.
Constant bugs are fine… unplayability and zero progression from endless crashing is a little different and has been somewhat discouraging. Hoping they can sort it out sooner than later as I have been really enjoying the game even after 60+ hours logged.
@@EIohymn again this loops back to the devs never claiming this EA launch would be a stable, bug-free experience.
This is what I truly do not understand from so many of the "critics".
They will complain on end that the unfinished, buggy, performance-issue riddled Early Access game is an unfinished, buggy, performance-issue riddled Early Access game.
Which was never claimed otherwise by the devs.
I love the game but I thought it was beta is it seriously still in alpha??
It's been great so far. Few things to change...inconsistent/complete lack of hit reg on enemies but they can turn and 1 bang me with a shot from the hip at 500m through a forest of cover. Second, even supressed and at range the enemies know exactly where I am after the first shot and come straight at me. Third, servers stuttering all over the place, I get it's early days but I have not seen this kind of rubber banding in a looooong time. Forth, helicopters, it's like waiting for a bus only to be constantly greeted with "request denied" often waiting over 10 minutes to go anywhere or get back to base. Either give us more helicopters, our own dedicated helicopters, make flights a hell of a lot faster or a combo of all the above. I would love stuff just out there in the jungle like old war remains/relics, add a bit more depth. I appreciate the devs are constantly delivering updates, it's really positive to see and the game has soooo much potential!
Yesterday i got killed by flying npc, not floating above ground but FLYING, dude was at the height of trees tried to shoot him but apparently his hitbox was still somewhere on the ground ;/
Still lets give them more time to polish the game!
@@AkameHatake I've not seen that one yet, please tell me you got a vid? It sounds hilarious :D
@@Creationeer I wish ;/
I forgot to enable recording on geforce now and didn't get to clip that... I was fumming for 15 minutes after that tbh since it happened like 100 meters before i could get new landing spot..
@@AkameHatake Also need to fix the NPCs merging with the walls at YBL-1
@@AkameHatakeI got same situation with that too in Blue Lagoon and Midnight Sapphire
I love the pve version, i met people from other factions and made friends, when the ability to kill eachother is no option people Get to be friendly, i also meet friendly enemies from other factions in pvp and we run around and did quests together, but its more rare in pvp
I enjoy it even playing 90% solo but can’t wait for the AI to get adjusted so we aren’t taking on the Terminator at just about every gun fight.
And early access stage for “a few years” is like being in purgatory but at least we can play it while it develops.
I mean look at baldurs gate 3, it was in early access for 3 years and look at how great it turned out. obviously different genre, devs etc. but I'm fine with a game being in early access for a longer time. as long as it is playable and the devs actually do dev things, I wont complain
I might be the minority here. I dont mind them being cracked as shit and some being brainless. Having them all mixed together makes you not know which youre gonna get. A little more fun for me
Let them give us early access so we can give them money to finish this game! Im already really enjoying this game with my friend and i really want them to be able to finish it! Feel bored? Quit this game and come back after idk 1 to 3 months? I bet there will be a lot more content! And even though im really against p2w [this game has p2w] im fine with it since its not like in some other games where you can just buy crazy items and boost your character, yeah sure people get more weapons at start and money but they are not crazy modded or anything like that. To be clear i have basic version of the game.
The day night cycle sounds like its gonna be litttt.
I think the sole focus should be optimization fixes just to allow people to get into the game, even if they add features if its still unplayable for most cards and that will stop a bigger playerbase from existing.
Definitely looking forward to a lot of these. Just have to be patient but unlike some people out there.
I like the look of the game & the pvevp. I hope they put binoculars in it soon, I like tactical shooters but scouting and recon should be a big part of that IMHO and not having binos seems like a bit of a miss.
This would be perfect
really hope the performance somehow gets better
prayge
I like the idea of the skill system. People aren’t static and all equal, it makes sense that someone who shoots a lot long distance would be able to hold steadier than others, or someone may be a long distance runner while others can carry more but move slower. Neat idea instead of just level grinding.
Id really love some binoculars
A unique skill system based on the players' achievments and not a grind means, for example, the sniping skill level by tasks triggered by you hitting long shots. The next time you visit a vendor, he will say, " i see you hit a long shot, i have a job for you," and after you complete that task, you get points in that skill. It's pretty unique and cool. Not having to reload a bolty 1000x or run 10k km to max a skill.
The PVP tasks is something I don’t agree with, something that makes this game fun and likeable for everyone is the fact that you can do everything on PVE if you want to, I think adding variety to the tasks is good but I would like them not to force everyone into PVP, I personally play in both game modes and think it’s very fun to play.
Let people have choice sure! Im more PvE player so i agree with you, but still let me choose if i want to go hunting players or do PvE stuff.
Yeah if there’s specific tasks on PVP there should be an equivalent on PVE for sure
The devs have already said they don’t plan on having any PvP related quests so we should be good there.
One easy thing to make PVP more attractive would be adding Tarkov-style dogtags that can then be sold (Artisan seems like a possible buyer with her dislike for mercs). Balances the much higher chances to lose gear with a way to earn a lot more cash than PVE.
without pvp this game is not fun
Id love a "vault" system similar to sea of theaves. Join a server, find the access keys, then raid the bunker. Have it maybe trigger an alarm when the doors open and give a time limit before ai arrive, so you can pick between getting the best loot or getting in and out quick without a fight.
I would like to see them add a stats feature as well, not necessarily because I wanna compare KD, but if I am playing with friends, I'd like to know my accuracy rating, how many enemies I killed or assisted with, this way I can make adjustments to gear or loadout if needed.
All this is great but nothing compares to LZ campers. It’s the most frustrating part of Gray Zone. They need to fix this now. Another thing is the Ai hipfires headshots me 8 times out of 10. I literally have to sprint the second the Asian guy goes like “Hey, who you”. Another thing is they need to nerf the Ai because sometimes they’re bullet sponges and they’re wearing nothing but a Tshirt and a back pack and somehow one shots me after dumping 1 and a half mags on his torso.
Devs announced early on that there will never be PVP required quests
Looking forward to the NPC tuning, hit reg, LZ rework, and better keybind options (allowing toggle, remapping map key, etc.).
So far digging the game and how the dev is approaching development of the game as well as involved with the community. It needs work but has potential. Hope they can get the game stable network-wised and optimized game-wised so then to build off a good foundation.
I'd love to see AI improvements. Currently, bots can tank 20 AP bullets and will often dome you through bushes.
On the matter of objectives, I'd say they should prioritize quality quantity. I'd love to see more quests that aren't just "grab x" or "kill x". Also, some of them are way too vague; If you tell me to toss a package into the sea, my first instinct is to do just that (not press f on a specific part of the water).
They can tank 10 shotgun shells to face even if you stand face to face with them... this happened to me i sold all my shotguns after that...
I'm having a blast with the game. My only quibbles so far are both the usual "to be fixed" with Early Access. One is performance (a RTX 3070 having so much stuttering and frame drops is not exactly what I'd call "average", but it's UE5 and not a fully released game so that's something that can be fixed), and the other is the amount of rubber banding and server-related performance with South American servers (out of every 10 servers I join, probably 8 run like ass, the other 2 run well)
I must say.. I am madly in love with this game.
For an Early Access title, the speed and attentiveness of the Devs just has me in 7th Heaven.
I've had some of most intense PvP escapes, the most intense PvE ambushes while you're playing field medic on a downed ally while you're other 2 friends are laying down fire to protect, all in a lush, GORGEOUS environment.
The medicine system really is a game changer. The length of engagements can greatly expand all things considered.
It's really hard to catch lightning in a bottle, but maybe, just maybe, Madfinger can pull it off.
They have me and my friends support, and I am so hopeful and excited for what the future brings to this game.
Bra-fucking-vo.
The unique skills based on achievements sounds so cool
Freaking love the game, first game thats actually feeling different, almost the same feeling when i first played tarkov back in 2018.
They should add more enemies close to the paths of the Helis so you can use them as target practice so a ride can at least feel engaging and not just a cinematic.
Il love so much this game… and its just a pre alpha… thx for your video !
i think that the longer a player keeps their pmc alive, without dying and spawning back at base, their skills should increase, stamina, arm strength drain, hydration and energy levels dissipate slower, increased accuracy, etc. but once you die, reset back to base skills, that would be FIRE, kind of like specialist bonus..but for mil sim..
Day night cycle sounds great. Fixing the AI so they have a cone of vision and a sound sensor around them will make steath and suppressors viable. Rotating PVP locations is an idea, and during the rotate they can add extra landing zones to the area. adding animals in the woods would fit as well. Vehicles to traverse the map and pay for helicopter transport (in game cash). So everyone isn't spamming them. Enemy faction strongholds. That we can have weekly or monthly raids on. There are alot of issues, but damn the game has great potential. And a personal, I know this game isn't about horror. But adding creatures(like monsters) to the middle zone would feel terrifying with how the gunplay works. Maybe a dlc or separate game mode.
The only problem with vehicles is that there’s enemy factions and raiding is not really encouraged by the devs maybe npc apcs
Maybe the unique skills system based on player skills is going to be a MOS type deal for the PMC/PMSC OP?
They definitely need to look at the moa they have. Cuz m700 has moa of 1.1 yet somehow when ur aiming at the head from distance it misses by 5 inches yet Mosin has 1.4 and tends to hit it's target
I've got something like 65 hours so far, and I'm genuinely enjoying it. I think it's a good game to begin with, and for a game that's only like 2 weeks old, it's actually really good. The PvE mode is all I care about, because that's exactly what I wanted this game to be. Admittedly, I have not had the serious issues that I've heard about (hours-long queues, sub-30 fps performance, constant crashes, or character/inventory deletions), but I only have a few high priority things I want changed.
1. Mantling needs improvement. A rock or log that rises 1 foot off the ground is not enough to bring you to a dead stop; you should be able to step over it with ease, without needing jump stamina. Same thing with the big flat boulders that slope into the river. Getting onto those is a bitch, and shouldn't be.
2. Pistols and shotguns need buffing, in that order. I'm not saying they need to become superweapons, but they're literally useless right now. I shot an un-helmeted enemy in the head literally 5 times with a pistol before he died.
3. AI enemies need their hearing and vision turned down just a bit. It seems like there's no way to truly sneak up on an enemy, and I had one literally hear me take out my knife (I was crouched and totally stationary; he didn't react to me being there until I pulled out my knife). They also routinely shoot you through foliage that they have no business seeing you through. Simply put, if I can't see you, you can't see me.
Stuff like increased mission type variety and achievement-based skills also sound really good, but those 3 are my top picks for the "Devs Plz Fix" list.
You know I had some pretty high hopes for this game. it was the best money i've ever spent. this game currently does what no other game is doing. being able to sit in a fob in a live server with helicopters coming in and out with dudes on mission is absolutely amazing. Playing credence clear water while landing back at the FOB surrounded by a bunch of PMC's everyone's partying having a good time. of course the performance issues with some people systems is an issue I understand that personally I have not felt any performance issues with my 40 series card. maybe the helicopter ride jumping down from 120fps to 90. in some spots. This game is amazing the visuals the sound I've never played anything like it I am so excited for the future of this game. I bought the standard edition then I bought the tactical then the elite now today I'm buying the big boy version
if you have a 40 series card and are getting less than 60fps, you are having performance issues dude lol
@@mtbSTL don’t tell me what I’m getting. What kind of an idiot does that? You’re talking out the side of your neck. 4070 5600 X max settings DLSS on with frame GEN 122 FPS. I’m currently on right now US west servers come in the fob so I can punch you in the face.
How do you get the music loud enough for everyone to hear? Also listening to ccr rn heck yeah
How are you "not having performance issues" when you're dropping to 20 fps in the helicopter. Dropping to 20 fps in the helicopter tells me you have a low end 40 series card. The other thing that tells me you have a low end 40 series card is you not mentioning which 40 series card you have
@@P5YKOTIK1870 you need to understand how to read a comment. I said it drops down 20 FPS. Not it drops to 20 FPS. Good job, understanding text
I'd like to see the movement being worked on, right now in its current state it feels very stiff like were just floating around.
I love this game so much even if I crashed a lot on my old pc, but after the upgrade it runs like a charm. They really need to optimize for older gen card before adding this much stuff. I used to crash when fighting on my 2070 super, haven’t crashed once with 4070 super ti, but still rubber banding
Yea funny how that works huh 😂 people be bitching they pc can't handle it without looking at the old gen stuff in the pc
But rubber bands is just server side issue
Loving the game can see its got legs, lookingforward to future content.
I just hope they get rid of key quests. Keys should be for good loot, not blocking your progression. I haven't found a single needed key and have only been able to progress those tasks when I get lucky and someone had already opened the door when I got there. Progression should not be based on RNG.
The skill based on achievements is going to be more like this . Example , u want to be able to hold ur breath longer when scoped in , u go to the fob u take a physical test maybe theres 30 targets hit them all as quickly as u can while holding ur breath and depending on how well u do u get a score and that will give determine the level of that skill , this eliminates the "grinders" for example u want to sprint longer so typically in games if u run around a lot ur sprint stamina will increase however people grind these by putting on an auto run plug-in etc to cheat it ... greyzone doesnt like that so a physical test where u cant cheat and have to actually use skill is what the system will be like
I thought Gray zone was OK, until I played Arma reforger yesterday. Now im hooked on that instead
Arma is a lag fest i hate it.
I personally think their should be skills kinda like (and I hate to say this) tarkov. But I would like more info on the achievement based one.
Yeah I got 2 tapped in the chest from 200+M by an AI with an AK74M and a red dot, while I was sitting in a tree line and some bushes firing a suppressed mosin. The AI definitely need some tweeking as well as the helo issue so players aren't spending 15+ minutes not in the game. First though they need better server stability.
I would like to see a skill progression that lasts through wipes for thinks like stamina, thirst, and hunger drain, weight limit, and all other nice passives that don't have a direct impact on combat.
I have about 15 FPS in the game with my I9 4060 nvida. I hope this changes soon.
I see a lot of potential in the game. Kinda like ARMA.
Don’t forget NPC’s will also try attacking our bases and stuff too
I love this game so far, hope it only gets better
When do we get more road side picnic tier stuff or stalker esque stuff
I think that’s what’s in ground zero as you get further in the bigger and more obvious the anomalies get i think riloe already found one
Yeah I've got to level 13, I've sort of lost interest but I definitely want to go back when it's more developed. I got the supporter pack as I want to support the developers. It's by no means a finished product. If anyone does, you don't know what early access means haha.
I LOVE the actual gameplay of GZW. I hate wating 7 minutes for a chopper or not even getting one... Ofc i also hate the performance issues and server lagginess...
This game is more developed than some triple A titles! I love it❣
Add a gun slot to your back, add more immersive quests. Add faction based stuff where maybe, Lamang is fixing radio towers all over the map, Crimson needs to sabotage the towers, and Mithras needs to get kills and extract dog tags from the players within range of the towers.
That would push PvP play and also combat extract camping since people arent rewarded for those kills.
Increase chopper speed? And decrease the audio of the pilot. He needs to have his audio EQ’d better as the S sounds are coming through way to sharp
Also maybe some POI’s be under the control of certain factions with that factions AI guarding
We already have additional gun slot in our bag, just give us hotkey to switch without going into invetory! To make up for switching weapons from bag to hand maybe just make animation bit longer? BUT LET ME DO IT WITH HOTHEY!!!
@@AkameHatake yeah I don’t disagree, but if I may compare this to a game like Tarkov, I can have 1 gun on my back that I can switch to, and others in my bag. I guess the bag size is maybe a little small imo? I don’t see the point of PvP either because gear is so cheap, and there’s just no point to going back to fight over your original gear… then if you win, you have your original gun, and the enemies gun, if it was just 1 other guy you’re fighting. It can be a bit difficult to fit the recovered weapon and the enemies weapon along with needing to take yours back too. I get doing it for the fun… I guess? I went full circle though and am back playing Tarkov cause it just has a more enjoyable gameplay loop. Loading screen isn’t a helicopter lagging around half the time.
@@thepunisher9928 Yeah backpack could be a bit bigger i agree still, im able to carry 3-5 additional weapons back to base with my backpack but i need to forfeit all of the different loot, sometimes i would just take just few mods from the weapons.
Yeah i bet Tarkov has more to game, its been on the market for quite some time, i would say it will take half a year before this game has more enjoyable loop.
Try playing again in the future!
People need to optimise their machines, 3070 with 140 frames 110 lows. Game runs sweet, gray zone is awesome can’t wait to see its progression.
5:37 for the record, guns can be duped. Anything can be duped.
Had me at "hooch" player base quarters
I just logged off. I had wiped my character and was doing the recon mission again.
By the gas station I saw a large group of maybe 8 AI running west.
I was like "wtf, never seen that before".
Then I fired at two guys in the gas station and was leaving when that large group came back.
They cornered me in a small house and I had an epic firefight. The AI cannot open doors yet thank god. And they seem to have trouble navigating walls.
But I have never seen such a large group before.
ooooohhh trust me.. they can open doors xD
Luck was on your side lol. They've opened doors on me
deserts and urban landscapes? no we have too many of that. also, a desert near a tropic biome doesnt make sense either. the map being a tropical jungle is such a breathe of fresh air from every fps out there. some urban landscapes isn't too bad either.
lmk when time of day and weather are fully functional i like it when i’m blazed out of my mind
They’ve already stated they are not planning to make pvp related quests.
Only game that rubber bands pretty badly but I still enjoy it and play it like a maniac
they have to add vehicles to get around. nothing crazy just some ATVs or side-by-side
I just want to know when its optimized enough to run so i can buy it. I can accept some bugs
I'm already playing on low settings because my 3060 can't take the FPS drops. Even then am I playing with quite low FPS.
Soon I will have a 4090 built in my newly built desktop but still, lots of people have 3060's, 3070ti, etc still . I can't imagine how the FPS will be when time and weather are added to the game.
Have 3060, IMO game is unplayable
One problem i have with the gane is long range shooting. I finally unlocked banshee lvl 2 so i could put a supressor on my m700. I went up next fort narith and found that there were no ai rendered in from 500m. I had 3 friendlies at the base and they werent rendered either. Total buzzkill. Why have 25x scopes in the game and zeroing up to a kilometer and not render ai at 500m? Totally killed my excitement
Where do u see all this info? Strange, i cant seem to find em on their discord. I just wanna read em for myself 😊
What's their Discord
AI patrols would be cool, they need to rework the key system.. the grind isn’t fun the way the open world is set up with spawn rates, shared targets for 3, 16 -player factions ..
I would like for them to add more choppers, there are times when I had to wait 10 min just to call for a chopper
There needs to be an alternative way to earn xp besides missions.
I"m loving this game I think about this game at work I'm excited to play when I get home that's how I judge my games. After 30 hrs played my personal suggestions for gameplay are 4 things.
More Loot.. enemies, POI's and the traders all have the same loot I really hope this changes soon. We need rare items to extract with or more items for level 3 traders everyone looks the same right now.
Better optimization
Nerf the AI gang mentality. Even a suppressed kill on a solo AI (from far away) alerts them all within seconds to your position.. the stealth gameplay is lacking here
More Helicopters. Having to wait 5 mins for an available Helicopter just wait another 5 for it to arrive becomes a burnout.
hopefully they fix performance issue also
i doubt there will be pvp quests since some people may choose to only play the PvE gamemode
im just wondering if this game could be played with rtx 3050 in the next few months
Never played Tarkov and by the looks of it, and my experience with GZW, I never will. Great thing is, they can always expand the map.
I’m gonna be playing EFT PVE until this game gets a bit more polish. I don’t wana get burnt out on it because I believe in the devs and their vision.
No fix on the Helicopter disaster? I think i spend more time waiting for helicopters than I do playing the game!
I’d love to see some jeeps and ATVs to maneuver around instead of taking the helicopter. No mounted machine guns or anything wild like that tho could make pvp kinda annoying.
AI needs to be the top priority. They can be absolute bullet sponges and never go down unless you get a headshot. Also need to fix line of sight and accuracy of the AI.
Love this game
Personally. Having a little bonus to playing pvp over pve would be awesome. But I don't think it should be pvp get the BEST stuff. I enjoy pve most. But I do think pvp should get some extra benefits since in general it is harder
Loving grayzone despite everything wrong ...but .... it's definitely worth it
Bro just fix the crashes and ai with fucking tank rounds please 😭😭😭😭
I love PvE. Stress free 😂 playimg with friends or just meeting new people.
Can't wait for more patches with fixes and content. After 120 hours, I still love this game
If there would be pvp missions like „get a pmc dogtag“ then campers would get rewarded for camping
They should change the sprinting animation
its like start of tarkov. the bones are there now its just wait and see how good they can make it. thats what i see atleast
Que for Helicopters, Helping players in a squad quest eg killing 20 people squad can complete this as a task rather than individually doing this. More OCE servers 🇦🇺
You won't ever see PvP focused objectives or tasks. The developers made it very clear since day one before the release of their game that PvP is second to the story of the game, that they will never release a task or mission that requires you to kill another player.
Some kind of perks connected with achievements would be great, like snipe an enemy from 500m and be able to get perk that would improve your sniper weapon handling by 10%. I think this would be great, after playing for 20h i felt like im lacking some kind of perks in this game.
And im all for some kind of player private hideout, let me spend cash to get more space for items! IM A LOOT GOBLIN!
Fractions really should get different benefits, be it different weapons/mods it would already change it a bit and worth killing players from different fractions.
Crafting? Yes please, but don't make vendors sell everything to you, by that i mean to not give all the atachments to npc just a part or make it so different fractions get different mods like i said above. I really would like to see more customization.
I feel like im gonna quit this game soon, but i for sure will come back when more content is added! Im really satisfied with game already but it for sure can be made into something bigger and greater!
It's a pretty well balanced game at the moment.
Best Open World Michael J Fox Sim hands down 🤣😂😅
Put a freakin auto organize button!
I think transport helis should pop smokes on pick up and drop offs and maybe even a turrent to kill campers lol
I've decided to keep the game but wait for updates/improvements. Got like 8hrs of game time, not much happened in those. Mostly fetch quests with not very smart AI, and no PvP encounters due to the starting location, which is fine. Rubberbanding was terrible though, and the hit reg felt very off even on AI. Performance is also a big issue for me. Not being able to hit 120+ frames at 1440p even on low settings suck. Image quality also sucks, even at native res. Shader comp stutter is a mess, but hey, that's Unreal 5 for you, I guess.
Overall the game is very much a PvE game first and foremost, and that doesn't impress me too much. It could be very fun to have a 3 faction war, taking land and POIs and getting dynamic rewards on those, triggering events to attack bases and FOBs of the other factions and so on. But I don't feel like that's the vision here, and I feel like for it to be fun and dynamic it has to have a lot more players per server, and somewhat of a cross server progression so you feel attached to the objectives you helped conquer.
Several years for full release is kinda a turnoff to be honest, would love to see a bit more chaos on the map like groundsupport, airsupport on the PvE servers for both PMCs and Local military
It took 7 days to die almost 12 years to get out of early access
I like the be able to play on my 3060. To be more specific I would like to have stable 60 fps
Use tsr or fsr everything on medium or low
I feel you!
@@Zimmothy1 It's still not great unless you use frame generation, but using frame generation adds on an unacceptable amount of input lag.
@@jonathanoriley8260 Maybe that's only with some setups. I've not experienced any noticeable input lag and I've used frame generation the entire time. I've even turned off any potentially conflicting settings which included anti lag. You could try messing with your GPU settings outside of game. Win10 + 5800X3D + 5700 XT
@@iDeagles That's because you have an AMD card. I have a RTX 3070Ti, so FSR doesn't work entirely correctly. With that said, it's honestly absurd that FSR works better and gives me more frames (without frame gen) than DLSS. How the NVIDIA software doesn't work better on NVIDIA hardware than the AMD software speaks to how poorly GZW is optimized for NVIDIA cards that aren't a 40XX series...
If the Devs optimised better, I would bet so many more people would purchase the highest tier early access payment.
Oh and hit reg and damage.
I shouldnt be seeing a dude in a doo rag have blood explode out of his head 8 times before going down.
I played for about 40 hours and it fizzled out for me. Just doesn’t have the same feel as ole Tarky.
Well yea ur a eft bot who just runs the same exact path every time and second someone says no take a difference route u act like they asked u to the impossible
@@45atanner lol what? These bots are wild…
Where DEV put the notes?!
We cannot even go to tiger bay yet and going to ground zero lol
they have already stated multiple times that there will be no flee market or trading !!!! literally said we will not puy that in our game!!!!!
toggle for ads and leaning needs to be added in the game, it’s ridiculous not to have that as an option
Yea toggle lean not being in the game day one is just insane. Like for console I would have understood but it's a pc only right now and yall dont have something every other realistic shooter does is crazy
@@45atanner absolutely. even on console you could use m&k so even there it makes no sense not to have it. i used to play cod on ps5 with m&k. tried to solve it in grayzone with macros but its so janky.