The High Renaissance - Palestrina Versus Lassus

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @TalesGomesG
    @TalesGomesG 2 роки тому +13

    I named my first daughter Giovanna after Palestrina. To me, the greatest of his time.
    Great video!

  • @Tatlone
    @Tatlone 3 роки тому +14

    I LOVE that you give so much time to the music. Not only are we able to hear it in excerpt but the visuals add to the appreciation. Also, if you had been my professor in college perhaps the knowledge I did gain would not have left me as quickly.

    • @KeepitClassical
      @KeepitClassical  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks! I know when I was first getting into classical music that having a visual aid really helped me understand it better (even if I was still learning to read music). I wish I could take more time with each of the pieces!

  • @farahmohammed1963
    @farahmohammed1963 Рік тому +4

    Wowwowow!! Fabulous video!! Thank you!!🌺

  • @zoilam.b.8287
    @zoilam.b.8287 2 роки тому +5

    So useful for our music students, I'll use it in my courses ! Thanks a million!

  • @odradekdp8453
    @odradekdp8453 4 місяці тому +1

    9:50 Petrarch is NOT the author of Le Lagrime di San Pietro. The poems were written by Luigi Tansillo (1510-1568). Lassus set to music 20 Madrigali spirituali, not 21; the last one being a motet

  • @michellelambert8749
    @michellelambert8749 Рік тому +4

    Love Palestrina.

  • @danawinsor1380
    @danawinsor1380 2 роки тому +3

    If any two composers are equals in greatness, it would be Lassus and Palestrina. For me, Palestrina's music is among the most transcendent ever written. How much of does one attribute to talent and how much to inspiration? On one hand, music is a form of "design," in that one must learn the techniques of composition, which during the 16th century were incredibly strict and exacting. On the other hand, some music has a quality of the sublime that can't be analyzed. My list of the greatest composers of ecclesiastical music of this era would include Tallis, Victoria, and Clemens non Papa in addition to Palestrina and Lassus.

  • @lloydbowers8997
    @lloydbowers8997 6 місяців тому +1

    When we sang Palestrina's Aeterna Christi munera, I knew I was hooked. When we sang Lassus's In monte Oliveti, I got hooked a second time. Reverent, worshipful music works on me like a drug, like endorphins.

  • @joaquinpercusses
    @joaquinpercusses 3 місяці тому +1

    John Peter Lewis LOLOLOL I can't wait to use it in the wild.

  • @jhummelgaard9310
    @jhummelgaard9310 Рік тому +2

    Great video! Learnt a lot!!

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 Рік тому +2

    I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think I know why Renaissance music died out.
    It needed more cowbell.

  • @crow-kl9dm
    @crow-kl9dm 2 роки тому +2

    could you do a video on just intonation and how playing classical works in their historic tunings changes the sound of the music? I once met someone who had a historically tuned piano, and when they played a piece by Palestrina it completely changed my perception of his works, and I'd love to learn more about it!

  • @robertomonroy694
    @robertomonroy694 Рік тому +2

    Awesome work.

  • @maniak1768
    @maniak1768 Рік тому +2

    God, you can't imagine the sigh of relief when you denounced that silly myth of Palestrina saving counterpunctal music. It's still so widely believed, unfortunately. Palestrina's music is amazing enough without lazy pseudo-historical sensationalism. Well-done video overall!

    • @herrickinman9303
      @herrickinman9303 11 місяців тому

      _Contrapuntal_ music. Not "contrapunctal music."

    • @maniak1768
      @maniak1768 11 місяців тому

      @herrickinman9303 Oh look, the orthography police sees everything. My own mother tongue uses a k-sound in this adjective, as the Latin ethymology indicates. Please forgive a non-native speaker his ignorance of the fact that your language has made its very own creative twist on the Latin word, being translated into French, made into an adjective and then being translated once more into English.

    • @herrickinman9303
      @herrickinman9303 11 місяців тому +1

      @@maniak1768 Now that you know the correct spelling is _contrapuntal,_ you're little less ignorant.

  • @Benjamin-bq7tc
    @Benjamin-bq7tc 3 місяці тому

    You are mispronouncing "epochs." If you're going to make videos, make sure you are literate.

  • @toretenore
    @toretenore 2 місяці тому

    cool video, thank you! One thought: Homophonic I would call Polyhonic but homorhythmical...

  • @bifeldman
    @bifeldman 8 місяців тому

    Lots of good insights. The gratuitous attempts at cutesy wit generally miss and undermine your presentation.

  • @polyglot8
    @polyglot8 2 роки тому +4

    8:30 One pronounces the "s" in the word (town) "Mons" (but not in the word - racing city - "Le Mans"). Confusing, I know - don't blame me, I'm just the messenger. BTW, De Lassus also likely spoke Flemish.

  • @NehemiahMatara
    @NehemiahMatara Місяць тому

    Thanks
    What about Henry purcell

  • @RoyJNg
    @RoyJNg Рік тому +1

    Thanks for posting, I've always used Palestrina and Lassus in our church music because it adds the depth of the prayers and the liturgy itself.

    • @lloydbowers8997
      @lloydbowers8997 6 місяців тому

      Please tell me where your church is.

  • @herrickinman9303
    @herrickinman9303 11 місяців тому

    _Missae_ is the plural of _missa._
    "Missae papae marcelli" means "masses of Pope Marcellus." Surely, you meant "MIssa Papae Marcelli."

  • @medievalmusiclover
    @medievalmusiclover 11 місяців тому

    Palestrina is the best.

  • @WallisGoodman
    @WallisGoodman 2 роки тому

    I love this video/these videos! I am a teacher of the history of art, and I'm wondering if you could help me with a simple exercise. In the world of art history, the art of the late 1500's and then 1600s, during the Counter-Reformation Baroque, we note that Catholic art changed in ways that made it more dramatic, in order to make the Catholic faith a more "energizing" thing. I thought that the Church had also sought to make the music of that time "more energizing" and dramatic. Might you be able to point me to two "quick" excerpts that might clearly show the "before and after" of these changes?

  • @sueco_r
    @sueco_r Рік тому

    Sadly, I can't enjoy Renaissance music as much as I enjoy Baroque music, it's just too much for me, it's like a really fancy glass of wine that I can't enjoy because it's way more fancy to what I'm used to. I hope that the more I listen to it, the more I open myself to it, it's quality is undenyalbe, God Bless you.

    • @riverstun
      @riverstun 4 місяці тому

      I love Bach, but he loved Palestrina. Suggest if you havent, that you listen to Missa Papae Marcelli. This work, Drains all stress from me from the very first notes. There are some other gems out there, Spem in Alium, Miserere, Parci Mihi.that are immediately accessible also.

  • @jefflokanata
    @jefflokanata 2 роки тому

    the subtitle cc are amusing . in 4:13 , "anus day" 😅

  • @nahim2261
    @nahim2261 2 роки тому +1

    5:37

    • @TalesGomesG
      @TalesGomesG 2 роки тому +1

      Papae Marcelli is a masterpiece

  • @isaiasramosgarcia3457
    @isaiasramosgarcia3457 11 місяців тому +1

    i prefer Victoria, supose because i am spanish, but the abulensis has always moved me more

  • @hamletsmill258
    @hamletsmill258 2 роки тому

    De Kerle wasn't Dutch, and what's with all the cut edits?

    • @KeepitClassical
      @KeepitClassical  2 роки тому +2

      Allen Atlas describes him as a "Netherlander" on page 581 🤷🏼‍♂️ Probably could have been more careful with my description of him.

    • @mmneander1316
      @mmneander1316 Рік тому

      He's not Dutch in the modern sense of the term "Dutch". He is from the Low Countries (in the historical sense of the term "Low Countries").