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Yujiro: *punch* Kuroki: *foresight* Kuroki: *thrust* Yujiro: *foresight* Kuroki: "!?" Yujiro: "I knew this technique all along. I just thought it was reserved for pregnant women to protect their babies with and senior citizens to protect their fragile bones with"
Yujiro would win because Lore reasons, but it would be nice that Kuroki gets treated with respect and he gets the Ogre recognition without being a absolute one side stomp. Make the match even until Yujiro activates the demon back AND gets the upper hand would be a nice conclusion
@@Dizzwizz thats the point of the crossover, pure fanservice and a balance. Its better to think that Kengan characters gets a Buff just for being on the baki universe, the same that baki characters Will get a downgrade to Fit on kengan universe
In the perspective of a crossover, i like the basis of scaling of Baki = ohma And everyone else should be scaled in relation to how they relate to those two in their own verse. Though from what i understand of kuroki, yujiro scales higher to baki than he does to ohma.
I think the thing that makes Kuroki cool is the *lack of hype* he generally got. Like, this martial arts master appeared out of effectively nowhere, defeated everyone he came across and left. He didn't indudge any of the impurity or baggage that most of these maniacs picked up along the way, he is basically Ryu from street fighter taken to his logical extreme as a peerless fighter who knows who he is, but that he can always become better. I think Yujiro would absolutely respect that. Kuroki is absolutely true to himself and is a true warrior. We literally seen what happened to Doppo, Yujiro took the time to experience everything that very human martial artist had to offer then *ate him* figuratively in front of an entire audience. I imagine the same would happen here, because of who Yujiro is he would never be defeated on screen but also because he is quite literally a monster who exists above all laws. Given the crossover logic it would be entertaining and I feel that Kuroki would be able to actually wound him just because it would be on brand for him to defy expectations at this point.
Compairing feats is one thing. Yujiro also has a bunch of broken passives like his Aura making people instinctually afraid of him and Yujiro being able to appraise your health and see your weak points just by looking at you.
Im fairly certain Yujiro would convincingly beat Kuroki but that doesnt take away anything from him. He's still one if the best in the kenghan universe currently, probably number 2 after shenlong. Also I feel baki is not far from him either. The film is fan service so its more about the fun of it all but Baki is defintely comparable to kuroki, feats and skills wise.
Yujiro wins Kuroki is above Baki. Baki and Ohma are around the same level so they’ll both put up a good fight against kuroki but would ultimately lose.
Dude Kengan characters literally have punches that can Destroy mountains. And catch bullets with their hair. You are thinking of only Baki and His dad. The other characters are on a much lower level compared to the top 2 in Baki. With this perspective. Kengan is actually on a higher level with you take out Baki and his dad.
Max feat that Omega showed Was Destroying building In Baki Dorian pucnhed a hole in Mountain Without Food and etc. Yujiro one shot Kengan Omega Baki onw shot Kengan Verse (not omega)
@@reflexboxer2ndlt807that’s actually not true about the other characters, Pickle spent his entire life fighting and killing not just T. rex but also giant herbivorous dinosaurs. Oliva uses helicopters pulling against him as weight reps( the kind that can lift 10 tons). Hanayama took literally 20 9mm shots uninjured etc I could keep going
I mean Kengan fans should already consider themselves lucky that the movie made them more stronger than they are meant to be. Yujiro is built like the Superman of Baki verse, in réality he wouldve put Kuroki in his place in a matter of seconds with a burst of laugh
Why would they be lucky that they made their strength equal in a freaking crossover??? You want them to make a whole one sided fight during the entire movie???
The one true measurable speed I can think of that the ogre performed was the arrow catching. He visited an old friend who had a crazy strong bow, 200lb pull strength iirc, and ogre convinced him to shoot him with the bow. The ogre was able to close the distance and even stop the arrow from ever leaving the string right after the string was released. That shows not only raw speed, but impossible accuracy and control.
Heres the difference between these 2 yujiro knows every martial art but prefers to brawl vs kurogi is a master of 1 martial art hes studied that for so long not even doppo would match this but it comes down to jack of all trades vs master of one
Kuroki has the greatest power you can have in a fighting manga: Anti-plot armor. That's what the Devil Lance actually does. He literally fights every single character who should have been able to beat him for the sake of the story and still won. Pretty easily, too. He beats the established main rival, he beats the power of love, he beats the guy who was set up to be the final boss, AND he beats the main character. All in one run. Dude is Him.
Would be a mid diff for yujiro. Shen is probably the only kengan character around yujiros level. Kuroki isn’t stopping earthquakes with punches nor has shown anything near yujiro’s sheer might and speed. Shen on the other hand is closer. We don’t know shens full power yet either so it could possibly be close depending on what he shows.
The earthquake feat doesn't make any sense. nothing happened like earthquake when he goes all out against a opponent. And got take down by some bullets and a net
You mean like when he shook a building just by getting angry? And the next thing was early on before junior truly became inhumanly powerful. I’m talking about how he is now.
So many typos on phone sorry.. I meant to say the net thing was ealry on before he became ridiculously op. Now he’s shaking building when he gets angry.
in omega it already stated shen is around ohma's level when it comes to muscularity and strength they aint that different, it was shen's technique that made him ridiculously strong. We havent seen shen full power yet, but no where close to yujiro thats 100% sure
Yujiro can break through bullet proof glass by walking into it which is insane when you understand that the glass is built to disperse forces across its surface. Yujiro's face is several times larger than traditional bullet sizes yet he was still able to generate enough force from his walk cycle to overcome the the glass's ability to disperse the force of impact. His walk is stronger than gunfire.
What I'm getying from this comment section is just how power scaling is just dumb. What does it matter if they scaled Kengen characters up or Baki characters down? It's just a cross over. If a fight just ends up as a stomp without it'll just be like watching one of those fan made videos in youtube. We all know Yujiro is going to win. But how would they make it fun and entertaining, is the question. Not who will win and how easy. That's how Baki or the Kengen series works. Baki is wacky dinosour stance and sword arms, while Kengen tries to incorporate actual real life techniques and takes some liberties to make them fun. Being pissed about this being close to that in power is just... ok dude
baki does showcase many real life techniques, they're just EXTREMELY exaggerated to the point of being unrealistic from all directions. kaku kaioh's shaori is a good example
It'd be interesting if Yujiro deflects the demon lance with a finger similar to how he trained to deflect a harpoon gun point blank range with a finger.
@@CHASEMEJ Baki fan base gets butt hurt almost about every single thing u said about their favourite anime even u gonna debate goku vs yujiro they gonna say yujiro wins with his girly demon back activated lol
I really don't get how baki fans are pissed. it's a promotion for both franchises, it does not matter that much. Maybe a small bit of humble pie in the form of reading kengan will do?
@@matthewa7503 that's because you can't compare it now. Baki anime is near the manga. Soo in anime his power level is really hight in the other hand kengan is based on ashura. If it's based on kengan omega then ohma will slap Baki left and right. But people wants kengan to stick to anime feats no the manga fears
@@matthewa7503I’m being Genuine my personal preference is manga or watch the kengan anime it give you a new POV of fight choreography and character depth
Kuroki doesn't mis-estimate fighters. He wasn't once wrong (so far) in predicting how a fight will/should/can go. Either in the fight or just observing it, he is pretty much the narrator. Everyone's taking this movie too critically and personally. It's Jimmy Timmy Power Hour, but absurd knowledge and bias or 'realism' put into the Bakiverse & Kenganverse when I'm pretty sure the whole point of the cross over was to make people knowledgeable about the 2 different franchises and support them 🤣 ain't no way Netflix is trying to make a war between the fandom If they wanted to, they could've easily had Yujiro support Kuroki's comment, saying both Bako & Ohma can't beat Kuroki (or himself) and have Yujiro showing more respect to Kuroki with some random boast before leaving with him for an off screen fight
What I imagine their fight would be is Yujiro fighting his usual way of brute strength, but to no avail against Kuroki's fortress-like stance, forcing Yujiro to actually use martial arts, with Kuroki's defense and attack still going strong but slowly falling against an ever stronger Yujiro with Demon Back included, essentially making them equal with Yujiro on top once he gives his all and uses his back. A battle to be remembered between the Devil and the Ogre who found in each other the challenge they've always seeked for, and a partner to respect for the few times they collide again in the future.
i gotta completely disagree with that last statement. It wouldn't be closer than people think. Yujiro would laugh at kuroki and grape him for thinking he's something important or strong. Do you think Kuroki could defeat a dinosaur? not at all. Shen wulong would lose to Yujiro but it would be a lot closer. Problem is Yujiros written as unbeatable. Baki (and likely Jack soon) being the only ones able to make him experience any kind of real joy out of a fight. (Baki and him "Flirting" with each other, etc.) If he fought Kuroki he would laugh, if he fought Wulong he would probably recognize him as one of the people to give him a real fight. Much like Wulong to the rest of Kengan.
@@mysteriousweeb yes but they aren't close to yujiro. A very casual , much weaker yujiro casually stopping earthquake is alone a feat, nobody in kengan ashura can match.
I believe that Shen wulong vs Yuichiro hanma would be more appropriate. Still it would be nice to see if Yujiro could replicate the Devil Lance technique, like he did with Kaku Kaioh, before shifting back to his "strength only" style
@@mysteriousweeb Not to mention that the anime still hasn't gotten to the real meat of what Kuroki's about, so only people who read the Kengan manga really know his feats. So there's a lot to go over.
Nah it would not be close bc jack vs kure they were same strenght but jack compared to manga is atleast 5 times weaker soo i dont think he will do much to pickle he would be a snack for him but katsumi or retsu would be good for him
Perhaps the statement of them being close in the crossover manga may have been true considering it takes place in the past when yujiro was still green but the crossover special takes place several years later. Kuroki is stronger than before but yujiro is leagues stronger. The best way to see how the fight will go down between them is to compare their latest fights in the timeline. Kuroki fought ohma in the tournament and yujiro fought baki in the father son fight. While kuroki did win against ohma (who is slower, has less techniques, has a worse transformation than baki), it wasnt a clean victory and kuroki believed he still has a long way to go to be where he wants to be as a fighter. While yujiro beat baki some what smoothly and considered their fight a good one because he was able to use so many moves that would kill normal fighters easily against baki.
Baki = Yujiro Kuroki: _somehow blitzes Baki and proceeds to yap about_ "you can never land a punch on me" If it weren't already obvious that crossovers aren't consistent, that should've clued you in.
I've watched BOTH amines and love them both to death, as for the match up its not even close, and dont you toxic kegan fans start an argument without even watching baki. Yujiro would Kill Him in 0.2 seconds.
btw I don't need proof. Just watch b,aki. But just as an example of yujiro's strength, he killed a 102ft tall gigantic elephant in under 10 minutes by using strength alone. As for his skill with martial arts, he learnt shaori (a skill that needs at least 50 years or so to learn) DURING A 20 MINUTE MATCH yujiro slams NEGATIVE DIFF.
Brother, I love your channel, i always am eager to click and see all of your vids. But this is an L take. Me being the crazy Kengan weeb that i am , i understand that this crossover was made with overall popularity and hype in mind, not with strict and physics accurate power scaling in mind. End of the day, it was made With and For fun. And it was. I personally had no complaints with the movie. If you really wanted to compare the most powerful and closest competition, then be actually accurate. This ‘Kuroki & Yujiro’ dynamic only exists because other broken mfs like Katsuya or Wulong weren't or aren't revealed in the anime yet, and wont be soon. It only exists because the creators pushed this narrative. By all measures and lore hype, the best rival/equal to Kuroki would be Kaku Kaioh. One is THE ultimate Japanese warrior while the other is THE greatest Chinese martial artists. Both have reached pinnacle of martial arts, not actual physical stats. Both are considered the 2nd most powerful warriors of their respective verses. Yujiro is someone who has the most possible skill, talent, genius and drive to be the best he can be. Yujiro is the ultimate combination of genius and hard work. He's supposed to be THE all-superior human being, who outclasses every other living being in every aspect of society, biology, emotions, mentality,martial arts, Everything. It seems nice that ‘Yujiro vs Kuroki’ is a thing now, but we both know that eventually Wulong and Katsuya WILL appear in the future. Then what should be said then ? This is what the best matchups should be/would be imo - - Yujiro VS Shen Wulong - Doppo VS Katsuya - Pickle VS Wakatsuki - Musashi VS Fei Wangfang - Kehaya VS Edward
@@lebruhjames9007 Before Shen showed up, Katsuya was arguably one of the top of the modern Kengan verse. This was in the Fist of the Seeker webcomic that Joji is also from. He is like Wakatsuki + Kuroki put together
Short answer, is no The only reason why Kegan’s fighters even have a chance against Baki’s fighters, is because the show runners have to somewhat even them out, so they can do the crossover. Otherwise all the Baki characters would run right through the Kengan characters. It’s really that simple
@@deadend1783 No, You just haven't read Kengan. While I definitely think Kuroki would lose this fight, Shenlong actually has feats that scale him _higher_ than Yujiro in several aspects.
May be because kengan is new manga where a lot of characters are not even introduce in anime if you read the manga and second the characters who are introduce have not got the chance to show all their powers. It's like you comparing first baki managa and all the feets included in it. I will not be surprised if kengan character comes out in future who can easily surpass Yujiro
They actually buffed them up know baki characters have 0 defensive skills its like turn based game where fighter wait to get punched and they show story about evolution then its the second guy turn so the first guy get punched them story about the food he ate last season 😂😅
@@zointisarenazi the fuck are you talking about? Their mere flesh would be enough to block most of the attacks from the kengan verse, that’s how durable they are specially the top tiers, and no defensive capabilities?! Nga you need to watch the damn show 🤦♂️
@@lebruhjames9007bro stfu you gotta realize as I read both mangas Kengan niggas are different 💀they have super hero strength and use blood techniques 💀when the second fight started I just knew jack was going to lose! they nerfed both. but gotta realize and watch both anime’s before you talk! Kengan shows more destruction to the body in their anime which they didn’t show in this fight !
Someday soon in the future, I hope there will be Baki Hanma vs Kengan Ashura part 2 and I hope Yujiro Hanma is going to win this fight against Kuroki Gensai.
guess we could say that shen wulong is the yuichiro hanma of the kenganverse? both look chill and seem to be super OP that made the Original OP buy go all out?
@mysteriousweeb Now i LOVE Shen, he's so far above the reat but could NOT be more different from Yujiro which i think it's great. Cant wait to see what happens in the manga after the tournament
Baki broke the scale of being overly ridiculous, tried watching the first episode cuz of the hype, but couldn't continue due to it's outrageous characters. World's strongest man being stronger than a 6 ton Mammoth and stoppped Earthquake without any super powers. Yeah, I cannot watch shit like that lol
@@kevOneTooTree The First few seasons were corny af I honestly began watching Baki later on when it's animation (and logic) turns not just tolerable but enjoyable at many times.
@kevOneTooTree then you can't watch or read Kengan either lmao. People move faster than bullets, fight effectively with pulverized bones, do things like have bones harder than titanium... Etc etc
Pretty sure Kuroki would definitely wound Yujiro. Likely even severely but only due to Yujiro's personality (Kaiou Kaku situation... hello now I think seeing Kaku vs Kuroki is VERY close). But he would very quickly adapt, start being more serious and almost certainly win shortly after. Kuroki is in that weird category of someone way stronger than Yujiro assumes a 'puny mortals' might be, but still that one league below Yujiro himself. Good vid btw :D PS: Kaku vs Kuroki :D?
To everyone I see in these comments acting like Baki doesn't stand a chance, friendly reminder that characters in the Baki verse can reach speeds much faster than anyone in Kengan Ashura. I've been watching some of the show in Kengan and nobody has yet to reach speeds of Mach 1 where as Baki himself can. Nobody is taking on an elephant as big as Godzilla (Yujiro has and Baki in this arc is scaled close to Yujiro because the arc that comes in this one is actually the one before where Baki fights yujiro to a draw) Baki himself has fought and beat an armed samurai who can cut through anything. And who could forget the time he got Oxygen poisoning (which would kill anyone in Kengan outright because "Void Palm" is instant death) he survived for at least a week, fought in a tournament and beat his first match while poisoned, recovered and got into a fight with Yujiro which he lost but was able to survive and wasnt at least Hospitalized. The point being is Baki Characters are ridiculous and its like a Goku Vs Superman Argument. I will continue watching both. But from what I've seen from these anime Baki Characters can move and perceive things at mach 1 speed minimum. And Kengan not so much. Not to mention on top of this Baki himself is shorter Than Ohma, but he weighs more. Ohma weighs 185 lbs and Baki is 220+. That weight class alone puts Baki at a complete advantage not to mention he can move so fast the naked eye can't track his speed. (Literally season 1) And now we are at what? Season 4? Season 5? Yeah Baki has only got stronger and faster and the only people who can actually beat Baki are his Father and Pickle the Caveman. I mean come on guys, Baki scales way too high for Kengan.
Ok now do Hayato Furinji (History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi) vs Yujiro Hanma. Now that would be an even more interesting topic. Keep in mind that there are a decent amount of Master class characters that can compete with Yujiro.
I agree with this i read the Manga the Masters are all Yujiro level on this one here and have crazy feats. Kengan however i don't even think can touch Yujiro and i read Omega. I need more feats from Kengan thats early in before i can say this. Its like OP man needed more time and now clearly shows he multiversal. History Strongest Disciple actually have Yujiro level Masters which i think can give baki verse a run for their money. Ppl slept on this one and im surprised you mentioned it. To be honest this one might actually give Yujiro more then just a fight its a survival test even if he beat one it will be High difficulty fight. The head master though might be Yujiro limit and for those who aint read this manga please rad it they have crazy feats unlike Kengan debatable ones. So i agree i think the Masters can actually Give Yujiro a fight in this anime but everyone under the Master Class in this Anime Yujiro stomps. Masters from this one could solo 98% of Baki's verse but Yujiro and Musashi, Would be extremely difficult even if they come out on top. I think Yujiro and Baki would be the hardest to beat especially the Baki that fought Yujiro to a close edge. I am actually someone knows about this because its not usually mentioned. Toast you you sir. However Kengan needs more time to actually even think about a cross over because ill be honest i don't think no one from Kengan is fighting Yujiro. I also think Kuroki is a bit under Baki. I think baki beats Kuroki mid difficulty which is still impressive but the better fight for Yujiro is Shen Wulong. Until i see feats though i rather they wait for this cross over to make it at its best where characters have reached more feats otherwise Yujiro is basically top dog even in the cross over. But baki and Yujiro would be top dog in that cross Over until then. History's strongest disciple Kenichi actually is Op especially Hayato he is busted and can run on water take a missle attacks with minimum damage and basically uses 0000.1% of his power for extreme feats. I believe he shuts down Yujiro if Yujiro beats the others which are difficult because this anime is different. You brung up the most interesting scenario for Yujiro i love Yujiro but this one i think wrecks Yujiro even if Yujiro goes all out i think for the 1st time he would Lose and you picked the headmaster which is the worse case. Wow of all the comments i did not expect ppl to mention a fighting anime that actually have the power to beat the Hanma's. Take this like espada.
I feel like they should've waited on this until the anime caught up to kengan omega. Then it could've been the connector instead since he's looking for a worthy opponent
In universe the likes of Emperor Kaku and Baki himself have held their own against the Ogre. So far in the Kengan anime Kuroki has hardly shown any weaknesses besides the typical mortal kind. He bleeds but, he never falls. I'd say it would be pretty damn close.
Really wouldn’t be close.. yujiro mid diffs and that’s being generous. Is kuroko stopping earthquakes with punches? Don’t think so. Shen is the only character so far in Kenyan that is on the same frequency as yujiro. And personally I don’t think he’s winning. I like Kenyan more than the Bali manga. But yuhuro is just too much.
@@dukenukem2480 I've never seen Yajiro run his whole hand through someone's chest before. Who doesn't break the ground with their fist in the Bakiverse? A feat like that doesn't make you a great fighter. If that were the case Retsu would've never lost to some of the guys that beat him. I don't know much about the manga but, from what I've seen in anime no one comes close to beating Kuroki. He even caught Baki's fist who just recently finished a very close fight against Yajiro.
@@rebal180 yujiro doesn't fight everyday, so you're not going to see him punch a whole through some weakling, and saying he can't is very disingenuous? Knowing well he could piece up a giant elephant bigger than a dinosaur weighing tons, that not even military might could get rid of. So yes, he could very well run his hands through someone's chest. The baki verse is LEAGUES above the kengan verse, there's no "it's close" it's a one sided stomp.
@@sekai2982 You brought up feats. If you want to go on that Pickle grew up fighting Dinosaurs and several Baki characters put up a good fight against him. Including Katsumi who was thought to be an absolute joke before that. Jack Hammer and Baki did as well. You can't start the who did what conversation and then get mad when some uses a feat to counter it.
Baki fan are mad bc they didnt tell a whole story that one hit would take down a character explaining the whole episode but when a fast pace fight starts they all like its a nerf 😂
Even if they didn’t put that long narrator explanation, Baki characters should still be able to low diff kengan characters 😂 in fact the fight would be much shorter because there’s no explanation to every technique and will just be a quick win for the Baki crew
@epicblue00 doesn't matter how hard baki hits ohma has a Technique called indestructible he doesn't really take much damage when he used that technique
I love how people are complaining about what’s happening, but from the manga and from this crossover, this is more canon than anything. Anyone wants to say because this is how the creators are showing it.
In terms of AP, Baki and Kengan are relative, falling into the Multi City Block to Town Level ranges. Speed wise Baki beats Kengan due to the Hitless blow and Yujiro being able to dodge lightning, though if you’re able to really highball the scaling with Rei then Pre Initiative users might be able to deal with Baki characters’ speed Skill wise I’d say Kengan characters are generally more skilled than Baki characters due to them having more emphasis on the styles and techniques in a more logical way
Fun fact: theirs a special reason as to why kuroki beat agito quite interesting it was rarely mentioned in the Ashura manga but most ppl probably skipped Kuroki then confirms it in omega which has me surprised and I didn’t even know then I realised ohhhh now that makes sense
Lorewise, in the KAvB universe, Kuroki is on Yujiro's level. But Baki's universe makes absolutely no sense, so if we powerscale, no one is beating Yujiro. It's like comparing Muhammad Ali to Popeye. Yujiro is a borderline gag character
Not only Yujiro is strong as hell, he can also see the weakness in everyone's body. There is a scene explaining that Yujiro can sense or see if someone has Cancer and any illnesses they don't even know they have by looking at them.
Many have pointed this out already but I'll say this regardless. Baki and Kengan are on different levels, they have to be evened out in a crossover so it wouldn't seem too lopsided. The only Kengan character that could compete with the Baki top tiers is Shen, and he stands out in his own series to the point where he might as well be Superman. But to give credit to Kuroki, he'd still be among the "masters" within Baki, like Doppo. Him having only one simplistic meme technique and the rest just being fundamentals yet still stomping the rest of the Ashura cast was very satisfying.
Baki fans have never read Kengan Ashura to completions nor have they read Kengan Omega. Literally the Kengan characters for the most part are on par with Baki characters and have similar feats outsides of Yujiro stoping an earthquake. Pretty sure the creator of Baki would also agree considering the crossover, also being in the Baki art style and universe.
Yujiro wins, but it'd be a fucking awesome fight, and Kuroki would be one of those opponents that Yujiro actually shows respect to, especially cause Kuroki got to where he is through sheer determination and drive to perfect his art. Yujiro's well-aware that he's a genetic freak and that it's a huge part of the reason he's unbeatable, hence the reason he wants Baki to grow to his level, being the only person sharing his genetics and having a chance to reach his level.
I understand why they had to put Yujiro against Kuroki for now (since they had to work with whatever both franchises' anime had by then), but Yujiro vs Shen and Kuroki vs Musashi would make a lot more sense. It's ok if the casts are equalized somewhat (despite the salt of Baki powerscaling zealots), but Kuroki being hinted to be far above Baki while Yujiro (Father vs Son fight arc) being far above Ohma is very questionable in conditions where Baki ≈ Ohma and Yujiro ≈ Kuroki. It seems that they're very heavily banking on Part 2 with the same cast, so we'd have to wait a long time to actually hope for a crossover with more appropriate top-of-the-verse matchups
kuroki is strong, but cmon he took hella damage against that one creepy guy, yujiro has fallen from like 20 story buildings without a drop of blood leaving his body.
This is a very, very interesting match because Yujiro Hanma is more of a chaotic but unpredictable fighter as we have seen with emperor Kaku pulling the hair remember? Now that said his strength is undeniable but? We haven’t seen enough skills to really make a complete assortment here of his capabilities. Now kuroki gensai has shown his wisdom in battle multiple occasions if you watch the anime, but? it has also been shown that he is a master at inner techniques but he is also very capable at unpredictable movements as he showed with the fang, but it’s also important to remember that perhaps the best strategy against this opponent here is possibly prediction in my own opinion I think that could be what separates the two opposing opponents here, and perhaps what might decide the winner. because both of them have their own unique fighting abilities styles and also have a testament of wisdom and both have incredible power so with all of that in mind side-by-side on this assessment it’s really gonna come down to predicting the opponent and the movements whoever can strike the fastest with the most precision possibly to vital points to with the most impact that may decide the entire match right there based on very small, deciding factors speed, precision, prediction, and impact so if I really truthfully have to pick? I will say Yujiro Hanma because now that i think about it?🤔🤔🤔 he knew about these poison scrolls yen and yang so he does know some stuff so he may may have the edge hmmmm it’s tough keeping everything in mind hmm. But we have a good idea of gensai more or less right? However! Yujiro? We haven’t seen the full scope of his skills other than power and impressive knowledge and experience but? There’s still a bit more to him and that’s why i wanna go by him rn because I do believe Yujiro still has a bit more to show us and I’m curious I do feel like he does still have a trick or 2 up his sleeves cause we definitely haven’t seen everything he has to offer not quite yet. And that’s why I’m saying yuhiro rn.
Just finished watching it. Was pretty good. Kind of don't like this collab as I'm sure it will all be about power level or whatever but I loved how the fights were all in a way perfect matches.
Thanks for watching mad lads :)
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We want fang vs yujiro thats the ultimate fight
@@RedSon_7 not really. Watch the video
Where do you see Shobun Ron in the kengan verse ?
Nobody is talking about prisoners tease at the end please make video about possible story
Did you get hacked??
Yujiro: *punch*
Kuroki: *foresight*
Kuroki: *thrust*
Yujiro: *foresight*
Kuroki: "!?"
Yujiro: "I knew this technique all along. I just thought it was reserved for pregnant women to protect their babies with and senior citizens to protect their fragile bones with"
Yujiro gonna show Kuroki his inner woman
@@jacksborns3414Kuroki gonna learn Okama Kenpo from this one.
@@jacksborns3414 AYO
Noooooooooo @@jacksborns3414
Ohma better
That time when Gensai said to Baki “You can never land a punch on me” pissed me off cause we all know damn well Baki would beat his ass.
Aww🥺🥺🥺
@@drdoomgoat38 ?
Okay and
like baki is almost yujiro level makes no sense
@@OneShotMan2 fr
Yujiro would win because Lore reasons, but it would be nice that Kuroki gets treated with respect and he gets the Ogre recognition without being a absolute one side stomp. Make the match even until Yujiro activates the demon back AND gets the upper hand would be a nice conclusion
agreed
not just lore reasons, hes just stronger anyways. Kuroki isnt nearly the same level as yujiro, its only like this because of the crossover
@@Dizzwizz thats the point of the crossover, pure fanservice and a balance. Its better to think that Kengan characters gets a Buff just for being on the baki universe, the same that baki characters Will get a downgrade to Fit on kengan universe
In the perspective of a crossover, i like the basis of scaling of
Baki = ohma
And everyone else should be scaled in relation to how they relate to those two in their own verse.
Though from what i understand of kuroki, yujiro scales higher to baki than he does to ohma.
I think the thing that makes Kuroki cool is the *lack of hype* he generally got. Like, this martial arts master appeared out of effectively nowhere, defeated everyone he came across and left. He didn't indudge any of the impurity or baggage that most of these maniacs picked up along the way, he is basically Ryu from street fighter taken to his logical extreme as a peerless fighter who knows who he is, but that he can always become better.
I think Yujiro would absolutely respect that. Kuroki is absolutely true to himself and is a true warrior. We literally seen what happened to Doppo, Yujiro took the time to experience everything that very human martial artist had to offer then *ate him* figuratively in front of an entire audience. I imagine the same would happen here, because of who Yujiro is he would never be defeated on screen but also because he is quite literally a monster who exists above all laws. Given the crossover logic it would be entertaining and I feel that Kuroki would be able to actually wound him just because it would be on brand for him to defy expectations at this point.
Yujiro vs Kurogi will be like Yujiro vs Doppo
vs Doppo 3.0
@@nikidrage229still would lose its impossible
The only difference Doppo put up a better fight and would chop Kurogi in half.
Kurogi is actually far more experienced and has been studying all his life so doppo would lose hard
@@Dragconictron no he would not
Someone said this "i dont watch crossovers to see who slams this character, but i watch to enjoy the content no mattet how accurate it is."
Chad way
Only way to enjoy it
Good opinion
Yeah
Too bad this crossover was garbage
@@VeeDubR32 how
if the gay dude that was obsessed with Ohma from Kengan was able to land hits on Kurogi then Baki can land even more lol
Noice, Someone with a brain
Baki is on the same level as Ogre so he would f*cking obliterate Kurogi
Baki with demon brain activated would beat kuroki with that fast punch he did against yujoro
@@hyoh7328demon isn’t a fcking mode it’s his passive
@@Forsakenruler haha
Creators: Let's combine the series and make fans come together and enojy.
Baki fans: Salty 🧂
Kengan fans: Coping 🤧
I really wished they used kengen CGI instead of baki😢
@@nevergoingtogiveyouup161 i love your profile pic
@@nevergoingtogiveyouup161 i hate your profile pic
Compairing feats is one thing. Yujiro also has a bunch of broken passives like his Aura making people instinctually afraid of him and Yujiro being able to appraise your health and see your weak points just by looking at you.
Like niggas a ohma verse can’t do the same thing bc they have 😂
Go ahead, name off some more memes that Yujiro has.
@@oneautumnleaff2119 Yujiro stop an eartquake with one punch 😂
@@oneautumnleaff2119 he forcefully maw out the womb and started drink mothers milk
@@jimmykudo11 He also got caught by a net, Baki is wildly inconsistent.
Im fairly certain Yujiro would convincingly beat Kuroki but that doesnt take away anything from him. He's still one if the best in the kenghan universe currently, probably number 2 after shenlong. Also I feel baki is not far from him either. The film is fan service so its more about the fun of it all but Baki is defintely comparable to kuroki, feats and skills wise.
yep
Yujiro wins Kuroki is above Baki. Baki and Ohma are around the same level so they’ll both put up a good fight against kuroki but would ultimately lose.
@@BlessedOrriin the cross over yes because Baki is nerfed heavily, but in reality Baki is waaayyy above ohma and definitely above kuroki
@@lebruhjames9007 Either Baki is nerfed or Ohma is buffed
@@thomasthecoolkid7228bothhhh
Yujiro yawned at a lightning bolt strike. No one is defeating The Ogre.
If the baki kengan crossover was cannon that would either raise the scale of kengan or lower the baki verse
Dude Kengan characters literally have punches that can Destroy mountains. And catch bullets with their hair. You are thinking of only Baki and His dad. The other characters are on a much lower level compared to the top 2 in Baki. With this perspective. Kengan is actually on a higher level with you take out Baki and his dad.
Max feat that Omega showed
Was Destroying building
In Baki Dorian pucnhed a hole in Mountain
Without Food and etc.
Yujiro one shot Kengan Omega
Baki onw shot Kengan Verse (not omega)
@@reflexboxer2ndlt807that’s actually not true about the other characters, Pickle spent his entire life fighting and killing not just T. rex but also giant herbivorous dinosaurs. Oliva uses helicopters pulling against him as weight reps( the kind that can lift 10 tons). Hanayama took literally 20 9mm shots uninjured etc I could keep going
@@reflexboxer2ndlt807 Looks like someone is a Kenga meat rider💀
@@Cat-beyondfictionthey been destroying buildings since the first show
I mean Kengan fans should already consider themselves lucky that the movie made them more stronger than they are meant to be.
Yujiro is built like the Superman of Baki verse, in réality he wouldve put Kuroki in his place in a matter of seconds with a burst of laugh
Shen could probably win against baki
Why would they be lucky that they made their strength equal in a freaking crossover???
You want them to make a whole one sided fight during the entire movie???
@@Forsakenrulerbut shen can't shen on yujiro
Movie???? I thought the manga crossover came in first??? Done by both creators??
@@Forsakenruler Nah baki is way too strong for shen. Baki would tie with him in base or maybe get sligtly outmatched
Musashi versus kuroki would go crazy
True that, swordless miyamoto throwing hands with the devil lance
@@mysteriousweebShen wulong vs Yuichiro hanma
@@mysteriousweebpre-initiative vs brain activity reading, sword hands vs devil lance. Who’s prediction is superior and who’s weapons are sharper.
Musashi would see all his moves and beat his ass 😂
@@Metalkit404bro these people are delusional lol
The one true measurable speed I can think of that the ogre performed was the arrow catching. He visited an old friend who had a crazy strong bow, 200lb pull strength iirc, and ogre convinced him to shoot him with the bow. The ogre was able to close the distance and even stop the arrow from ever leaving the string right after the string was released. That shows not only raw speed, but impossible accuracy and control.
You forgot to mention that yujiro hanma can see all of your injuries in your whole entire body from the inside
that part is really poor writing, same as stopping an earthquake with a punch
@@airwatching2shut up
@@airwatching2 doesn’t matter it’s a feat
That won’t help that much.
@@airwatching2 sounds like Kuroki is just written weaker tbh
Kuroki would put up a good fight but Yujiro still takes the W.
I think the same. Shen Wulong vs Yujiro would be close af
@@Bochnia1000 Agree
Are we reading the same two mangas? There is a humongous physical gap between kengan and baki it’s not even fair
@daikiaomine.4822 No there isn't.
@@User-es3em they’re absolutely is
I would love to see a video of Akoya potentially fighting the escaped Deathrow Inmates. The ending of the movie left me wondering.
Discussion on that should be the next video
Same
It is teasing something big for the Prisoners
@@mysteriousweebSweet.
@@mysteriousweeb what if akoya bando and 3 more vs prisoners
Heres the difference between these 2 yujiro knows every martial art but prefers to brawl vs kurogi is a master of 1 martial art hes studied that for so long not even doppo would match this but it comes down to jack of all trades vs master of one
Kuroki has the greatest power you can have in a fighting manga: Anti-plot armor. That's what the Devil Lance actually does.
He literally fights every single character who should have been able to beat him for the sake of the story and still won. Pretty easily, too. He beats the established main rival, he beats the power of love, he beats the guy who was set up to be the final boss, AND he beats the main character. All in one run. Dude is Him.
Best comment
Anti plot armor 😂
But yujiro dosent have plot armor, he lost to baki
@@masluisgaming9582 wasn't it hinted yuijrio wasn't going all out
@@masluisgaming9582 dawg Youjiro gave Baki the win, he literally whooped Baki’s ass
Would be a mid diff for yujiro. Shen is probably the only kengan character around yujiros level. Kuroki isn’t stopping earthquakes with punches nor has shown anything near yujiro’s sheer might and speed. Shen on the other hand is closer. We don’t know shens full power yet either so it could possibly be close depending on what he shows.
The earthquake feat doesn't make any sense. nothing happened like earthquake when he goes all out against a opponent.
And got take down by some bullets and a net
You mean like when he shook a building just by getting angry? And the next thing was early on before junior truly became inhumanly powerful. I’m talking about how he is now.
So many typos on phone sorry.. I meant to say the net thing was ealry on before he became ridiculously op. Now he’s shaking building when he gets angry.
@@dukenukem2480 before the net think he solos US Army . You think someone destroying US Army is can be can we take down by a net and some bullets
in omega it already stated shen is around ohma's level when it comes to muscularity and strength they aint that different, it was shen's technique that made him ridiculously strong. We havent seen shen full power yet, but no where close to yujiro thats 100% sure
Yujiro can break through bullet proof glass by walking into it which is insane when you understand that the glass is built to disperse forces across its surface. Yujiro's face is several times larger than traditional bullet sizes yet he was still able to generate enough force from his walk cycle to overcome the the glass's ability to disperse the force of impact. His walk is stronger than gunfire.
What I'm getying from this comment section is just how power scaling is just dumb. What does it matter if they scaled Kengen characters up or Baki characters down? It's just a cross over. If a fight just ends up as a stomp without it'll just be like watching one of those fan made videos in youtube. We all know Yujiro is going to win. But how would they make it fun and entertaining, is the question. Not who will win and how easy. That's how Baki or the Kengen series works. Baki is wacky dinosour stance and sword arms, while Kengen tries to incorporate actual real life techniques and takes some liberties to make them fun. Being pissed about this being close to that in power is just... ok dude
baki does showcase many real life techniques, they're just EXTREMELY exaggerated to the point of being unrealistic from all directions. kaku kaioh's shaori is a good example
They're discussing without authorial buffs for fun cause it's fun to pit other battle manga characters built for mind games against each other.
The interesting thing is going to be Will the devil lance going to be able to go through Yujiro's skin.
It'd be interesting if Yujiro deflects the demon lance with a finger similar to how he trained to deflect a harpoon gun point blank range with a finger.
When Kuroki stops an earthquake by punching the ground let me know.
Yujiro: Pat Back
Kuroki: 🫱
Yujiro:
Yujiro would slaughter this man
It’s fiction. Whatever the writer wants to happen will happen. We shouldn’t take it that seriously. It’s entertainment at the end of the day
@@jonathanmcculley3728just Baki fan boys! they don’t read other mangas just leave them alone and their hopes and dreams to their daddy yujiro lol
@@CHASEMEJ Baki fan base gets butt hurt almost about every single thing u said about their favourite anime even u gonna debate goku vs yujiro they gonna say yujiro wins with his girly demon back activated lol
@@JH-ck1ui
Girly back? Are you okay man? 😭 Who are you talking to?
No, he's not that much stronger.
The greatest gift that this crossover could give us is baki and kengan fans raging at each other now more than ever.
I really don't get how baki fans are pissed. it's a promotion for both franchises, it does not matter that much. Maybe a small bit of humble pie in the form of reading kengan will do?
I know right. Some Baki fans lose their minds when you say someone might beat Yujiro
Because they want the characters strength to be accurate? Not sure why people don’t understand that.
@@matthewa7503 that's because you can't compare it now. Baki anime is near the manga. Soo in anime his power level is really hight in the other hand kengan is based on ashura. If it's based on kengan omega then ohma will slap Baki left and right. But people wants kengan to stick to anime feats no the manga fears
@@rainierterucha8907THANK YOU! people say “well yujiro got the USA to submit to him” brother Shen WuLong quite literally has the world on defcon 1😭
@@matthewa7503I’m being Genuine my personal preference is manga or watch the kengan anime it give you a new POV of fight choreography and character depth
I'm not a big anime fan anymore but i did watch the movie ane damn did the baki characters get nerfed, not really even a debate
great video and analysis
Thanks man
Kuroki doesnt stand a chance...Unless Netflix nerf Yujiro...
@@materson3000 yea i hope they dont do something stupid, because it would ruin Yujiro's character if Kuroki can even damage him
The writers and creators determines everything. It's their project both Baki and Kengan Ashura so. Don't be surprised when the unthinkable happens.
@@materson3000 fr
Right
Kuroki: Devil lance technique
Yujiro: Roshambo scissors technique
Kuroki doesn't mis-estimate fighters. He wasn't once wrong (so far) in predicting how a fight will/should/can go.
Either in the fight or just observing it, he is pretty much the narrator.
Everyone's taking this movie too critically and personally. It's Jimmy Timmy Power Hour, but absurd knowledge and bias or 'realism' put into the Bakiverse & Kenganverse when I'm pretty sure the whole point of the cross over was to make people knowledgeable about the 2 different franchises and support them 🤣 ain't no way Netflix is trying to make a war between the fandom
If they wanted to, they could've easily had Yujiro support Kuroki's comment, saying both Bako & Ohma can't beat Kuroki (or himself) and have Yujiro showing more respect to Kuroki with some random boast before leaving with him for an off screen fight
What I imagine their fight would be is Yujiro fighting his usual way of brute strength, but to no avail against Kuroki's fortress-like stance, forcing Yujiro to actually use martial arts, with Kuroki's defense and attack still going strong but slowly falling against an ever stronger Yujiro with Demon Back included, essentially making them equal with Yujiro on top once he gives his all and uses his back. A battle to be remembered between the Devil and the Ogre who found in each other the challenge they've always seeked for, and a partner to respect for the few times they collide again in the future.
i gotta completely disagree with that last statement. It wouldn't be closer than people think. Yujiro would laugh at kuroki and grape him for thinking he's something important or strong. Do you think Kuroki could defeat a dinosaur? not at all. Shen wulong would lose to Yujiro but it would be a lot closer.
Problem is Yujiros written as unbeatable. Baki (and likely Jack soon) being the only ones able to make him experience any kind of real joy out of a fight. (Baki and him "Flirting" with each other, etc.)
If he fought Kuroki he would laugh, if he fought Wulong he would probably recognize him as one of the people to give him a real fight. Much like Wulong to the rest of Kengan.
did you watch the kuroki part of the video
@@mysteriousweeb bro yeah, I watch almost all of your videos. His feats are not on Yujiros level. Not even close.
@@mysteriousweeb yes but they aren't close to yujiro.
A very casual , much weaker yujiro casually stopping earthquake is alone a feat, nobody in kengan ashura can match.
@@-Verycardhock Even a fodder Kengan character manhandled a whale. Dinosaurs are not off the table.
@@pango4425but not as everyday for dinner
I believe that Shen wulong vs Yuichiro hanma would be more appropriate. Still it would be nice to see if Yujiro could replicate the Devil Lance technique, like he did with Kaku Kaioh, before shifting back to his "strength only" style
this video was 99% about kuroki, love it
Required. I have many yujiro videos
@@mysteriousweeb Not to mention that the anime still hasn't gotten to the real meat of what Kuroki's about, so only people who read the Kengan manga really know his feats. So there's a lot to go over.
Not a huge fan of Kenyan, but the way your video explained was super informative. Pretty cool 👍
welcome, I have over 700 videos on kengan and baki
Rayan kure vs pickle would probaply a interesting fight
Indeed
Nah it would not be close bc jack vs kure they were same strenght but jack compared to manga is atleast 5 times weaker soo i dont think he will do much to pickle he would be a snack for him but katsumi or retsu would be good for him
Perhaps the statement of them being close in the crossover manga may have been true considering it takes place in the past when yujiro was still green but the crossover special takes place several years later. Kuroki is stronger than before but yujiro is leagues stronger.
The best way to see how the fight will go down between them is to compare their latest fights in the timeline. Kuroki fought ohma in the tournament and yujiro fought baki in the father son fight.
While kuroki did win against ohma (who is slower, has less techniques, has a worse transformation than baki), it wasnt a clean victory and kuroki believed he still has a long way to go to be where he wants to be as a fighter. While yujiro beat baki some what smoothly and considered their fight a good one because he was able to use so many moves that would kill normal fighters easily against baki.
Baki = Yujiro
Kuroki: _somehow blitzes Baki and proceeds to yap about_ "you can never land a punch on me"
If it weren't already obvious that crossovers aren't consistent, that should've clued you in.
Baki doesn't equal yujiro tho rn yujiro is still way stronger than Baki he just gave Baki the W cuz of his heart or whatever
Yujiro's aura alone would break all of Kuroki's bones
I've watched BOTH amines and love them both to death, as for the match up its not even close, and dont you toxic kegan fans start an argument without even watching baki. Yujiro would Kill Him in 0.2 seconds.
btw I don't need proof. Just watch b,aki. But just as an example of yujiro's strength, he killed a 102ft tall gigantic elephant in under 10 minutes by using strength alone. As for his skill with martial arts, he learnt shaori (a skill that needs at least 50 years or so to learn) DURING A 20 MINUTE MATCH
yujiro slams NEGATIVE DIFF.
What Kuroki said to Baki didn't Cell from dragon ball z said the same thing to Gohan? before Gohan went level 2 and demolished him??
I think shen wulong is the perfect match to yujiro, giving all of there might
Awesome vid 👍👍
Brother, I love your channel, i always am eager to click and see all of your vids.
But this is an L take.
Me being the crazy Kengan weeb that i am , i understand that this crossover was made with overall popularity and hype in mind, not with strict and physics accurate power scaling in mind. End of the day, it was made With and For fun.
And it was. I personally had no complaints with the movie.
If you really wanted to compare the most powerful and closest competition, then be actually accurate. This ‘Kuroki & Yujiro’ dynamic only exists because other broken mfs like Katsuya or Wulong weren't or aren't revealed in the anime yet, and wont be soon. It only exists because the creators pushed this narrative.
By all measures and lore hype, the best rival/equal to Kuroki would be Kaku Kaioh. One is THE ultimate Japanese warrior while the other is THE greatest Chinese martial artists. Both have reached pinnacle of martial arts, not actual physical stats. Both are considered the 2nd most powerful warriors of their respective verses.
Yujiro is someone who has the most possible skill, talent, genius and drive to be the best he can be. Yujiro is the ultimate combination of genius and hard work. He's supposed to be THE all-superior human being, who outclasses every other living being in every aspect of society, biology, emotions, mentality,martial arts, Everything.
It seems nice that ‘Yujiro vs Kuroki’ is a thing now, but we both know that eventually Wulong and Katsuya WILL appear in the future. Then what should be said then ?
This is what the best matchups should be/would be imo -
- Yujiro VS Shen Wulong
- Doppo VS Katsuya
- Pickle VS Wakatsuki
- Musashi VS Fei Wangfang
- Kehaya VS Edward
confused, what was my L take?
WHO the fuck is Katsuya, ain’t no way he’s on shen wulong level 😂
@@mysteriousweeb Do you believe Yujiro and Wulong is a close matchup?
@@mysteriousweeb well Yujiro is stronger than millitary
@@lebruhjames9007 Before Shen showed up, Katsuya was arguably one of the top of the modern Kengan verse.
This was in the Fist of the Seeker webcomic that Joji is also from.
He is like Wakatsuki + Kuroki put together
Thank you for the spoiler alert for kengan omega. Very professional and kind notice.
Short answer, is no
The only reason why Kegan’s fighters even have a chance against Baki’s fighters, is because the show runners have to somewhat even them out, so they can do the crossover. Otherwise all the Baki characters would run right through the Kengan characters.
It’s really that simple
You haven't read kengan, watch the video
@@mysteriousweeb Or maybe you didn't read baki
@@deadend1783 No, You just haven't read Kengan. While I definitely think Kuroki would lose this fight, Shenlong actually has feats that scale him _higher_ than Yujiro in several aspects.
@@Satsaru Here's the thing, Yujiro would copy Shen's technique once he reveals it and it's game over from on
@@CommanderShepard-wq3wo I think it literally just a matter of look at the logic the series uses Baki operates on a very looney tunes like set rules
I got flashbacks to your old intro here. 7:04. Love your longer, more detailed vids like this.
Thanks man, I'll definitely do more
they nerfed baki characters ASHDWAUGHIGRSHDGKHTHr
[insert explanation that this comment is a joke here]
watch the video
May be because kengan is new manga where a lot of characters are not even introduce in anime if you read the manga and second the characters who are introduce have not got the chance to show all their powers. It's like you comparing first baki managa and all the feets included in it. I will not be surprised if kengan character comes out in future who can easily surpass Yujiro
They actually buffed them up know baki characters have 0 defensive skills its like turn based game where fighter wait to get punched and they show story about evolution then its the second guy turn so the first guy get punched them story about the food he ate last season 😂😅
@@zointisarenazi the fuck are you talking about? Their mere flesh would be enough to block most of the attacks from the kengan verse, that’s how durable they are specially the top tiers, and no defensive capabilities?! Nga you need to watch the damn show 🤦♂️
@@lebruhjames9007bro stfu you gotta realize as I read both mangas Kengan niggas are different 💀they have super hero strength and use blood techniques 💀when the second fight started I just knew jack was going to lose! they nerfed both. but gotta realize and watch both anime’s before you talk! Kengan shows more destruction to the body in their anime which they didn’t show in this fight !
Someday soon in the future, I hope there will be Baki Hanma vs Kengan Ashura part 2 and I hope Yujiro Hanma is going to win this fight against Kuroki Gensai.
Kuroki:You could never land a punch on me.
Baki:Why catch my punch then.
Kengan logic lol
That's why Baki wouldn't be able to land a hit on Kuroki, because he can just grab Baki's punch if Baki's trying to land a hit on him.
guess we could say that shen wulong is the yuichiro hanma of the kenganverse? both look chill and seem to be super OP that made the Original OP buy go all out?
I LOVE Kengan, but it's VERY difficult to imagine anyone being an Equal to Yujiro
indeed, perhaps thats why they made shen wulong
@mysteriousweeb Now i LOVE Shen, he's so far above the reat but could NOT be more different from Yujiro which i think it's great.
Cant wait to see what happens in the manga after the tournament
Baki broke the scale of being overly ridiculous, tried watching the first episode cuz of the hype, but couldn't continue due to it's outrageous characters. World's strongest man being stronger than a 6 ton Mammoth and stoppped Earthquake without any super powers. Yeah, I cannot watch shit like that lol
@@kevOneTooTree The First few seasons were corny af
I honestly began watching Baki later on when it's animation (and logic) turns not just tolerable but enjoyable at many times.
@kevOneTooTree then you can't watch or read Kengan either lmao. People move faster than bullets, fight effectively with pulverized bones, do things like have bones harder than titanium... Etc etc
Pretty sure Kuroki would definitely wound Yujiro. Likely even severely but only due to Yujiro's personality (Kaiou Kaku situation... hello now I think seeing Kaku vs Kuroki is VERY close).
But he would very quickly adapt, start being more serious and almost certainly win shortly after.
Kuroki is in that weird category of someone way stronger than Yujiro assumes a 'puny mortals' might be, but still that one league below Yujiro himself.
Good vid btw :D
PS: Kaku vs Kuroki :D?
To everyone I see in these comments acting like Baki doesn't stand a chance, friendly reminder that characters in the Baki verse can reach speeds much faster than anyone in Kengan Ashura. I've been watching some of the show in Kengan and nobody has yet to reach speeds of Mach 1 where as Baki himself can. Nobody is taking on an elephant as big as Godzilla (Yujiro has and Baki in this arc is scaled close to Yujiro because the arc that comes in this one is actually the one before where Baki fights yujiro to a draw) Baki himself has fought and beat an armed samurai who can cut through anything. And who could forget the time he got Oxygen poisoning (which would kill anyone in Kengan outright because "Void Palm" is instant death) he survived for at least a week, fought in a tournament and beat his first match while poisoned, recovered and got into a fight with Yujiro which he lost but was able to survive and wasnt at least Hospitalized. The point being is Baki Characters are ridiculous and its like a Goku Vs Superman Argument. I will continue watching both. But from what I've seen from these anime Baki Characters can move and perceive things at mach 1 speed minimum. And Kengan not so much. Not to mention on top of this Baki himself is shorter Than Ohma, but he weighs more. Ohma weighs 185 lbs and Baki is 220+. That weight class alone puts Baki at a complete advantage not to mention he can move so fast the naked eye can't track his speed. (Literally season 1) And now we are at what? Season 4? Season 5? Yeah Baki has only got stronger and faster and the only people who can actually beat Baki are his Father and Pickle the Caveman. I mean come on guys, Baki scales way too high for Kengan.
I'm gonna be honest, the end pissed me off. I knew it was going to end on a tie (cuz ego), but Jesus I never expected it to be that bad
Dude the kengan guys are nothing at all think of it this way biscuit alone could walk in an destroy everyone same time
you do not read kengan. Everything you need to know about kuroki explained in the video
Stop the capping Kengan has good feats some comparable to the Baki verse
Shen could prob solo baki verse
The fact that you didn’t read Kengan speak volumes
As a Baki fan, Kuroki and many other fighters would be able to beat Oliva.
So many characters, so many potential fights.
Kuroki stronger then people think
Yeah just not stronger the yujiro 😂 he’d stomp kuroki honestly but I get it it wouldn’t be fun if the fight last 3 minutes that’s not fair
Ok now do Hayato Furinji (History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi) vs Yujiro Hanma. Now that would be an even more interesting topic. Keep in mind that there are a decent amount of Master class characters that can compete with Yujiro.
I agree with this i read the Manga the Masters are all Yujiro level on this one here and have crazy feats. Kengan however i don't even think can touch Yujiro and i read Omega. I need more feats from Kengan thats early in before i can say this. Its like OP man needed more time and now clearly shows he multiversal.
History Strongest Disciple actually have Yujiro level Masters which i think can give baki verse a run for their money. Ppl slept on this one and im surprised you mentioned it. To be honest this one might actually give Yujiro more then just a fight its a survival test even if he beat one it will be High difficulty fight. The head master though might be Yujiro limit and for those who aint read this manga please rad it they have crazy feats unlike Kengan debatable ones.
So i agree i think the Masters can actually Give Yujiro a fight in this anime but everyone under the Master Class in this Anime Yujiro stomps. Masters from this one could solo 98% of Baki's verse but Yujiro and Musashi, Would be extremely difficult even if they come out on top. I think Yujiro and Baki would be the hardest to beat especially the Baki that fought Yujiro to a close edge.
I am actually someone knows about this because its not usually mentioned. Toast you you sir. However Kengan needs more time to actually even think about a cross over because ill be honest i don't think no one from Kengan is fighting Yujiro. I also think Kuroki is a bit under Baki. I think baki beats Kuroki mid difficulty which is still impressive but the better fight for Yujiro is Shen Wulong.
Until i see feats though i rather they wait for this cross over to make it at its best where characters have reached more feats otherwise Yujiro is basically top dog even in the cross over. But baki and Yujiro would be top dog in that cross Over until then.
History's strongest disciple Kenichi actually is Op especially Hayato he is busted and can run on water take a missle attacks with minimum damage and basically uses 0000.1% of his power for extreme feats. I believe he shuts down Yujiro if Yujiro beats the others which are difficult because this anime is different.
You brung up the most interesting scenario for Yujiro i love Yujiro but this one i think wrecks Yujiro even if Yujiro goes all out i think for the 1st time he would Lose and you picked the headmaster which is the worse case. Wow of all the comments i did not expect ppl to mention a fighting anime that actually have the power to beat the Hanma's. Take this like espada.
Kuroki that kind of guy that gonna fight with yujiro, say "you are strong yujiro" and beat him)
Lmao I can definetly see that being an actual scenario. Where kuroki wins due to having better conviction than yujiro
you seriously believe Kuroki can beat Yujiro?😂😂 seriously? you know we can debate about it
@@St.aymar29 i wrote it satirically 🤨, but yeah, kuroki can beat anyone
I feel like they should've waited on this until the anime caught up to kengan omega. Then it could've been the connector instead since he's looking for a worthy opponent
Lots of Triggered baki fanbois in this comment section
Yess 😂😂😂
Yes by delusional kengan animators
Its animated by the animators of baki
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In universe the likes of Emperor Kaku and Baki himself have held their own against the Ogre. So far in the Kengan anime Kuroki has hardly shown any weaknesses besides the typical mortal kind. He bleeds but, he never falls. I'd say it would be pretty damn close.
Really wouldn’t be close.. yujiro mid diffs and that’s being generous. Is kuroko stopping earthquakes with punches? Don’t think so. Shen is the only character so far in Kenyan that is on the same frequency as yujiro. And personally I don’t think he’s winning. I like Kenyan more than the Bali manga. But yuhuro is just too much.
@@dukenukem2480 I've never seen Yajiro run his whole hand through someone's chest before. Who doesn't break the ground with their fist in the Bakiverse? A feat like that doesn't make you a great fighter. If that were the case Retsu would've never lost to some of the guys that beat him. I don't know much about the manga but, from what I've seen in anime no one comes close to beating Kuroki. He even caught Baki's fist who just recently finished a very close fight against Yajiro.
@@rebal180 yujiro doesn't fight everyday, so you're not going to see him punch a whole through some weakling, and saying he can't is very disingenuous? Knowing well he could piece up a giant elephant bigger than a dinosaur weighing tons, that not even military might could get rid of. So yes, he could very well run his hands through someone's chest.
The baki verse is LEAGUES above the kengan verse, there's no "it's close" it's a one sided stomp.
@@sekai2982 You brought up feats. If you want to go on that Pickle grew up fighting Dinosaurs and several Baki characters put up a good fight against him. Including Katsumi who was thought to be an absolute joke before that. Jack Hammer and Baki did as well. You can't start the who did what conversation and then get mad when some uses a feat to counter it.
@@rebal180What should he use if not feats?😂
No one was nerfed. Baki even stated he’s hitting ohma with some pretty dangerous moves. Moves he’d only care to use on his father.
Baki fan are mad bc they didnt tell a whole story that one hit would take down a character explaining the whole episode but when a fast pace fight starts they all like its a nerf 😂
Even if they didn’t put that long narrator explanation, Baki characters should still be able to low diff kengan characters 😂 in fact the fight would be much shorter because there’s no explanation to every technique and will just be a quick win for the Baki crew
@@lebruhjames9007 bro ohma tokita muscles are harder then Baki tf u on
@@lebruhjames9007 baki never fought some like ohmaaaaa
@@CarlosDiaz-fg5hxhe literally beat pickle someone who is stronger,faster,and has more endurance than ohma
@epicblue00 doesn't matter how hard baki hits ohma has a Technique called indestructible he doesn't really take much damage when he used that technique
I love how people are complaining about what’s happening, but from the manga and from this crossover, this is more canon than anything. Anyone wants to say because this is how the creators are showing it.
"nah I'd win " - Me
In terms of AP, Baki and Kengan are relative, falling into the Multi City Block to Town Level ranges. Speed wise Baki beats Kengan due to the Hitless blow and Yujiro being able to dodge lightning, though if you’re able to really highball the scaling with Rei then Pre Initiative users might be able to deal with Baki characters’ speed
Skill wise I’d say Kengan characters are generally more skilled than Baki characters due to them having more emphasis on the styles and techniques in a more logical way
Kuroki wouldn't even beat Pickle 😂
Fun fact: theirs a special reason as to why kuroki beat agito quite interesting it was rarely mentioned in the Ashura manga but most ppl probably skipped
Kuroki then confirms it in omega which has me surprised and I didn’t even know then I realised ohhhh now that makes sense
Lorewise, in the KAvB universe, Kuroki is on Yujiro's level.
But Baki's universe makes absolutely no sense, so if we powerscale, no one is beating Yujiro. It's like comparing Muhammad Ali to Popeye. Yujiro is a borderline gag character
Not only Yujiro is strong as hell, he can also see the weakness in everyone's body. There is a scene explaining that Yujiro can sense or see if someone has Cancer and any illnesses they don't even know they have by looking at them.
If kengan characters get baki logic in my opinion its close but yujiro has more in his arsenal
Many have pointed this out already but I'll say this regardless. Baki and Kengan are on different levels, they have to be evened out in a crossover so it wouldn't seem too lopsided. The only Kengan character that could compete with the Baki top tiers is Shen, and he stands out in his own series to the point where he might as well be Superman.
But to give credit to Kuroki, he'd still be among the "masters" within Baki, like Doppo. Him having only one simplistic meme technique and the rest just being fundamentals yet still stomping the rest of the Ashura cast was very satisfying.
Baki fans have never read Kengan Ashura to completions nor have they read Kengan Omega. Literally the Kengan characters for the most part are on par with Baki characters and have similar feats outsides of Yujiro stoping an earthquake. Pretty sure the creator of Baki would also agree considering the crossover, also being in the Baki art style and universe.
Yujiro wins, but it'd be a fucking awesome fight, and Kuroki would be one of those opponents that Yujiro actually shows respect to, especially cause Kuroki got to where he is through sheer determination and drive to perfect his art. Yujiro's well-aware that he's a genetic freak and that it's a huge part of the reason he's unbeatable, hence the reason he wants Baki to grow to his level, being the only person sharing his genetics and having a chance to reach his level.
this man yujiro hanma just punches the ground to stop a earthquake...
Btw what is Rolon Donaire nationality?
Philippines
theres one way he gonna worthy to fight yujiro ,if future keng series can buff keng characters, then they can have a cross over in future again.
Kuroki doesn't stand a chance and he even admitted it and said yujiro is a perfect fit for him to test his strength
Would there be 2nd episode?
Well getting a part 2 of this crossover I watched it and I seems like it
I understand why they had to put Yujiro against Kuroki for now (since they had to work with whatever both franchises' anime had by then), but Yujiro vs Shen and Kuroki vs Musashi would make a lot more sense. It's ok if the casts are equalized somewhat (despite the salt of Baki powerscaling zealots), but Kuroki being hinted to be far above Baki while Yujiro (Father vs Son fight arc) being far above Ohma is very questionable in conditions where Baki ≈ Ohma and Yujiro ≈ Kuroki. It seems that they're very heavily banking on Part 2 with the same cast, so we'd have to wait a long time to actually hope for a crossover with more appropriate top-of-the-verse matchups
Who else hates that at the end of the crossovers the dudes from baki great prison battle arc show there faces when that arc ain't even gonna happen.
kuroki is strong, but cmon he took hella damage against that one creepy guy, yujiro has fallen from like 20 story buildings without a drop of blood leaving his body.
It only make sense to compare them before Baki went super saiyan after it's not about fist fight or fight at all it's about magic casting
Kuroki: exists
Yujiro: I am. A warrior….now we can do this the easy way, or the hard way…
Yujiro definitely would have tracked Kuroki down before that exhibition to throw hands
That devil lance ain't stopping earthquakes.
Remember when they said Gaia was on Yujiros level?
That’s how I feel about it
If young lo long had a draw with the young devil lance and the young devil lance was considered equal with young yujiro…
This is a very, very interesting match because Yujiro Hanma is more of a chaotic but unpredictable fighter as we have seen with emperor Kaku pulling the hair remember? Now that said his strength is undeniable but? We haven’t seen enough skills to really make a complete assortment here of his capabilities.
Now kuroki gensai has shown his wisdom in battle multiple occasions if you watch the anime, but? it has also been shown that he is a master at inner techniques but he is also very capable at unpredictable movements as he showed with the fang, but it’s also important to remember that perhaps the best strategy against this opponent here is possibly prediction in my own opinion I think that could be what separates the two opposing opponents here, and perhaps what might decide the winner. because both of them have their own unique fighting abilities styles and also have a testament of wisdom and both have incredible power so with all of that in mind side-by-side on this assessment it’s really gonna come down to predicting the opponent and the movements whoever can strike the fastest with the most precision possibly to vital points to with the most impact that may decide the entire match right there based on very small, deciding factors speed, precision, prediction, and impact so if I really truthfully have to pick? I will say Yujiro Hanma because now that i think about it?🤔🤔🤔 he knew about these poison scrolls yen and yang so he does know some stuff so he may may have the edge hmmmm it’s tough keeping everything in mind hmm. But we have a good idea of gensai more or less right? However! Yujiro? We haven’t seen the full scope of his skills other than power and impressive knowledge and experience but? There’s still a bit more to him and that’s why i wanna go by him rn because I do believe Yujiro still has a bit more to show us and I’m curious I do feel like he does still have a trick or 2 up his sleeves cause we definitely haven’t seen everything he has to offer not quite yet. And that’s why I’m saying yuhiro rn.
Just finished watching it. Was pretty good. Kind of don't like this collab as I'm sure it will all be about power level or whatever but I loved how the fights were all in a way perfect matches.
how strong is shen wulong in your opinion?