MWAFREEKA AGREES WITH ANDREW KIBE ON WHY GENZs NEED A LEADER

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  • @MohamedEdin-v3q
    @MohamedEdin-v3q 2 місяці тому +15

    We need a leader but kibe can never be the right choice

    • @rawb6456
      @rawb6456 2 місяці тому

      mko na ujinga what leader kasmuel

  • @BenardMokua
    @BenardMokua 2 місяці тому +11

    The moment we have a leader the following will happen
    1. The leader can be bought/silenced or killed-we dont want that
    2. The movement will have to flow according to leader's vision. Ikifika mahali achoke, the movement loses momentum
    3. The moment we choose a leader, there will be sharp divisions in the movement. There will be divisions and different camps can emerge
    4. What we may have probably is a think tank that is amorphous which communicates one message to the movement

    • @abc007
      @abc007 2 місяці тому

      Exactly. Please tell mwaf this . Ama he should step up aache kuharakisha watu

  • @andrewomuom8751
    @andrewomuom8751 2 місяці тому +5

    Yes Gen Z need a leader but not now yet...time will come for that.

  • @edgararony6023
    @edgararony6023 2 місяці тому +11

    The leaderless nature of the protest is the best thing that ever happened.The government has no clue on whom to deal with ,yet the point reaches home.later on if the things cools off the leader will spraut like mushrooms in every part of this nation.

    • @Firestarter001
      @Firestarter001 2 місяці тому

      Theres no movement that has ever been successful without proper leadership. It has never happened in human history!

    • @abc007
      @abc007 2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly Edgar mwaf is so afraid of non-structure talk. Ati Kasmuel as a leader? That's such an emotional move . Kasmuel will be turned faster than Hamilton with the wheel . Let's take our time guys

    • @peterchege7380
      @peterchege7380 2 місяці тому

      @@edgararony6023 the big lie is been leaderless or lack of leadership. One it gives room for easy control from any peculiar motive

  • @zachariahchege6821
    @zachariahchege6821 2 місяці тому +3

    Leader to do what ..what does calling for war on graft and good governance has to do with anything of wanting a leader how is removing exorbitant prices and skewed policies in issuing IDs has to do anything with having or wanting a leader ...leader waah nini exactly wee didn't not commence the movement so that we can get position in government

  • @Hunter_385
    @Hunter_385 2 місяці тому +4

    I know it's hard for us to accept that we need a leader but the fact is we need one though not now because all those we thought were up to the task have already failed.

  • @kelvinmuthomi6694
    @kelvinmuthomi6694 2 місяці тому +1

    We are underestimating the new awakening.

  • @tomatosoup6440
    @tomatosoup6440 2 місяці тому +2

    Leaderless Korean protestors got rid of President Park Geun Hye in 2017. Again, leaderless Tunisians & Egyptian protestors ousted Ben Ali and Hosni Mubarak respectively in 2011. *_I'm not calling for Ruto's ousting -- that's your decision to make -- but those insisting that Kenyan protestors MUST have a leader lacks global awareness_* . Read the world, don't be too local in your usual "Kajitombe" place 😆

    • @IkoNini
      @IkoNini  2 місяці тому

      😬😬😁😁

  • @Leengunjiri
    @Leengunjiri 2 місяці тому +1

    I will support Kibe, he has no fake filters

  • @mikemogoi2
    @mikemogoi2 2 місяці тому +2

    I agree with you Mwafreeka. We need a leader and structure. With that even if Ruto combines with Raila we will win coz we have the numbers

  • @kevsitati128
    @kevsitati128 2 місяці тому +7

    Bro you keep talking about wins, I have heard you say that over and over, lakini can you elaborate on the wins Kwa families that have lost their loved ones. You need to stop saying wins and use words like progress. Nimezika bro Wangu a week ago after being shot and you keep talking of wins, sema progress but now a win bana.

  • @vlgx00x
    @vlgx00x 2 місяці тому +5

    We can still have structure without a leader. The moment the movement becomes political is the moment we loose.

    • @abc007
      @abc007 2 місяці тому +2

      Plus the timing is not right. Mwaf is in such a hurry to apply Agile methodology , he has forgotten we r in the jungle

  • @eleven5167
    @eleven5167 2 місяці тому +4

    For us gen Zs everyone is a leader at their own capacity ...but our main leader is the constitution ...okiya omtatah said that anyone can lead this country as long as they follow the rule of law ... I'm paraphrasing ...

    • @el_gringo9211
      @el_gringo9211 2 місяці тому

      At first the revolution ilikua sawa but now the demonstration imekuwa taken over by the government the reason nobody wants to be a leader ni kushikwa but huwezi sema constitution is our leader...its just guidelines we definitely need a leader right now juu the revolution ita dissappear just like that

    • @piuswanyaga8361
      @piuswanyaga8361 2 місяці тому

      We need a leader hii kukuwa leaderless so we can satisfy our ego will never work in the long term.

    • @eleven5167
      @eleven5167 2 місяці тому

      @@el_gringo9211 what do we need a leader for yet we want that dude out of office ... they are still going to arrest that leader anyway

    • @el_gringo9211
      @el_gringo9211 2 місяці тому

      @eleven5167 if we remove him then who will lead the country

    • @eleven5167
      @eleven5167 2 місяці тому

      @@el_gringo9211 my problem is if we present a leader ... the movement will be compromised, either that person will turn or be coerced who knows .. politics is nasty. My wish would be every civilian to view this current regime as a threat to their sovereignty and take back power to themselves so that it's no longer painted as "kids" against the government but all concerned citizens against corruption, opulence, injustice etc... so my best bet would be the speaker takes over and we vote after 2 months ... 2 months is enough kujipanga trust me ... hatuna obsession na power nor are we looking for a messiah

  • @cashcoder
    @cashcoder 2 місяці тому

    kibe is the guy,💯💯💯

  • @wilbas4304
    @wilbas4304 2 місяці тому +3

    The movement is still in its beginnings, and when everything settles down leaders will emerge. The old 'follow the leader' model ya kina Railas and the like should not be imposed on this movement taking into account where it has led us to.

    • @alvinmbaabu1729
      @alvinmbaabu1729 2 місяці тому

      true

    • @abc007
      @abc007 2 місяці тому

      @@alvinmbaabu1729 Thank you thank you thank you. Mwaf anaharakisha process ud think he is Gaitho

  • @mawaristic
    @mawaristic 2 місяці тому +2

    Mwaf, having a leader in this situation might be an advantage and also a disadvantage just the way we're leaderless which is also an advantage and a disadvantage in this case. We can say we need a strategy and if we need a leader, we have to be certain about them representing our interest eg Okiya Omtata, Boniface Mwangi

  • @kangwanadavid
    @kangwanadavid 2 місяці тому +1

    the movement needs a leader and doesn't need a leader at the same time. A leader will sell the mvt out. See how the opposition is behaving. tells you it is difficult to trust a leadership. they will be abducted and killed or threatened or bribed. one thing i agree with ni taking breaks. The demos pia sahi haziko objective. but having a leader is both good and bad.

  • @beinformed_1
    @beinformed_1 2 місяці тому +1

    I think Okiyo na martha karue can be our leaders...Purely because they have political experience...and at least, they have some morals and limits.

  • @alexmuli
    @alexmuli 2 місяці тому +5

    I think the leaderless model is still the best at the moment…there is no one to compromise because no one speaks for the Gen z as the voice of the movement. Look at what has happened to the opposition with Rao… one guy and he has totally compromised what we knew as the opposition. Fatigue is normal in anything…in daily life…so rest might be a remedy but no doubt the protests are working…nothing comes easy you loose and gain ground sometimes unexpectedly.

  • @EastAfricaGenes
    @EastAfricaGenes 2 місяці тому +2

    Iko msee alisema that a majority of listeners on X space reside in Nairobi. That’s why protest zinaisha nguvu
    We need to form a political party that can do rallies and carry civic education countrywide

    • @thekikombe
      @thekikombe 2 місяці тому

      Okiya Omtata vied in Nairobi where apparently civic education imeiva. He lost.
      He vied in Busia and won big time.
      Tell me more about Civic Education

    • @EastAfricaGenes
      @EastAfricaGenes 2 місяці тому

      @@thekikombe You seem to be unable to differentiate civil education from political campaigns.
      Civic education is the process of teaching citizens about their rights and obligations under the Kenyan constitution

    • @thekikombe
      @thekikombe 2 місяці тому

      @@EastAfricaGenes I think you mean ‘Civic’ and not ‘Civil’ education. The fact that you think that it is the responsibility of a political party to carry out civic education is itself reason to not negotiate a right that is in Section 6 of our constitution. Our political parties are driven by individual objectives. Unless you know any that actually has a realistic philosophy

  • @TomsMedia
    @TomsMedia 2 місяці тому +2

    Mwaf I think you want us to play politics but I think the movement is about policies. and yes I think the protests were too much.

  • @victorosong
    @victorosong 2 місяці тому +2

    Ruto na the word resign is a no no.

  • @joeonkeo9663
    @joeonkeo9663 2 місяці тому

    Chief, that double Jeopardy bit, you may need to dig a bit deeper on what it is as a legal concept. But you make lots of sense in summation of your argument.

  • @jamesotieno7272
    @jamesotieno7272 2 місяці тому

    Weliye Mohamed said exact same thing the change is long term not short term

  • @ODIMZJR
    @ODIMZJR 2 місяці тому +1

    I expected this from you,bahasha hapa ishatembea

  • @rahabnyambura5487
    @rahabnyambura5487 2 місяці тому

    I totally agree with you with all the mack a eli story ya allow the win..buh it,s true..dopamine rush only pple who know pyschology..know what u r saying raia..tunakuskiza from Seattle..Nyambura kamiti

    • @abc007
      @abc007 2 місяці тому

      U guys keep pushing for a leader and u can see how opposition were absorbed chap chap. Let's take our time n choose wisely this is not checkers

  • @nelick4326
    @nelick4326 2 місяці тому

    The only way ni kufinya the mps kuwasalimia everywhere you find them until they impeach zakoyo coz ruto is untouchable so let's deal with the once we can get

  • @trishtrish2349
    @trishtrish2349 2 місяці тому +1

    I agree with you. Leta Kasmuel na Eric Omondi ujaribu kuwapa haya mawaidha 😊

    • @abc007
      @abc007 2 місяці тому

      Hahaha , this is even more reactionary than the protests . Guys lets not be in such a hurry to install a leader . We r already thinking in one channel .The leader will come .Let us be patient

    • @trishtrish2349
      @trishtrish2349 2 місяці тому

      @@abc007 Ruto has effectively killed the most formidable opposition party. So Millenial /Gen Z need structure ,so that come 2027 we have in place an opponent that can seriously challenge him.

    • @IkoNini
      @IkoNini  2 місяці тому

      Thank you Trish

    • @abc007
      @abc007 2 місяці тому

      Simple question to u geniuses, what is stopping u from announcing urself as Gen z leader ? Think about it b4 u answer . There is a very deliberate reason for not having a leader . No rush for a leader guy. Think!!!

  • @alvinmbaabu1729
    @alvinmbaabu1729 2 місяці тому +1

    Not having a leader is the power of this movement and it should stay that way for sometime.Ruto has won nothing by bringing ODM on board.

  • @Emgee101
    @Emgee101 2 місяці тому

    In my opinion they don't need a leader now. When time comes they themselves will know when and will select one.

  • @PabloM254
    @PabloM254 2 місяці тому

    there was a time KOT were demonstrating against KPLC. the movement was solid until 2 people a lawyer and Jerotich Seii fronted themselves as leaders. what happened? the lawyer was paid well by the government and the Shutdown KPLC movement died a natural death.

  • @kalaini
    @kalaini 2 місяці тому

    Kibe? Leader? Absolutely not! I don't think he has a clue.

  • @marthawainaina2309
    @marthawainaina2309 2 місяці тому +1

    IMO having a leader might kill the movement. Like when Osama hosted the president on X he said he was representing the people.

  • @Kobe_254
    @Kobe_254 2 місяці тому

    WHEN GEN Z' WENT FOR "RUTO MUST GO" SLOGAN--- THAT WHEN THE HAILSTONES STARTED FALLING ON THE REVOLUTION!!! #LEADERLESS IS THE REASON WHERE THE MOVEMENT WILL CRUSH... #KhalifKairo and #Kibe is a NO!!

  • @karanja.kanari
    @karanja.kanari 2 місяці тому +1

    Sure, Genz needs leaders

  • @drwasikeokile7299
    @drwasikeokile7299 2 місяці тому

    5:49 PEOPLE CELEBRATING HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO DO SO . WHAT THEY SHOULD KNOW IS THAT PEOPLE ARE POLITICAL CONSCIOUS AND THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON

  • @thekikombe
    @thekikombe 2 місяці тому

    The Idea that a Face or personality ought to be at the table to discuss the obvious is in itself nice. However, values and principles driving the discussion should come first.
    Gen-Zs are saying ‘We want accountability’.
    You are saying you want a leader. Who is your chef?
    Mali yetu illibwa. Irudishwe. What is this leader bonging about?
    The Gen Z ‘leader’ is supposed to miraculously solve EuroBond and Goldenberg and Fertlizer and NSSF and NHIF scandals?

  • @HenryWere-uk6qo
    @HenryWere-uk6qo 2 місяці тому +2

    Huyu ashapewa kakitu auzie gen Z uoga na story mob.

    • @abc007
      @abc007 2 місяці тому

      Turn coat

  • @wycliffepoet5201
    @wycliffepoet5201 2 місяці тому +2

    Makarios not rudderless.
    Don't be stupid na roho chafu kama mama wa kambo..
    Ni: leaderless
    Party less
    Tribe less

  • @phyb656
    @phyb656 2 місяці тому

    Mwaf the moment genz gets a leader its only a matter of time before the government chops that head off using different tactics and compromise sets in on the part of the leader... being leaderless makes the government not really know which head to cut off... people are just asking for accountability nini ngumu hapo. The recent abductions and still ongoing shows you who you're dealing with...They will use abductions, threats, dialogue and bribery to get what they want.

  • @drwasikeokile7299
    @drwasikeokile7299 2 місяці тому

    3:33 KAMA TUNATAKA CHANGE WE NEED STRUCTURE . UNAFIKIRIA GIOVERNMENT HAINA STRUCTURE . NO MAKARIOS , WE DONT NEED STRUCTURE ITS ALREADY THERE . WE NEEDED CHANGE OF MINDSET AND IT HAPPENED ON 25TH

  • @trvkim9435
    @trvkim9435 2 місяці тому +1

    Personally I would vote for Khalif Kairo

  • @magunguru6998
    @magunguru6998 2 місяці тому

    i agree but people misunderstand the word leader both the leader and the ones who are led... i suggest an official spokeperson and make it a team of at least 30 people who speak on specific issues and interchange on a roaster.... a spokeperson speaks on the behalf.... its what is happening in central so far when central was against uhuru over bad governance the spokepersons were karua kuria and rigathi when they got into leadership and karua joined raila against centrals interests and they started thinking they were leaders and people will follow them no one listened to them Genz by cancelling others are creating principles.... create the ideology. then people stick to the ideology.. spokemen then propagate the idealogy

  • @marshallskogallo
    @marshallskogallo 2 місяці тому +1

    please invite gaitho aeleze why he is misleading the youth. when they got to stop the bill, they should have changed strategy and retreated to figure out the next move. kipping on with maandamano wasn't the best move for gen z movement and the country. did he really believe that it was a good idea ama ni yeye amenunuliwa

  • @mercymwanika2727
    @mercymwanika2727 2 місяці тому +1

    Ruto knew what's he's doing I think walikaa chini wakaelewana to pretend eti wamefutwa kazi but there's nothing like that coz why ufute mtu kazi tena umrudishe alikuwa msa kurudisha akina jumwa I'm sure next ataenda western kurudisha akina ababu namwamba now akina murkomen are laughing in our faces

    • @drwasikeokile7299
      @drwasikeokile7299 2 місяці тому

      YES AND KINA MWAFREEKA AND KIBE ARE RUNNING INTERFERENCE FOR GOVERNMENT . OPEN UP YOUR EYES . I LIKE MWAFREEKA BUT HE IS A GIVERNMENT LACKEY . MOST GEN XER ARE GIOVERNMENT LACKEY . THEY ARE SO REGIMENTED TO BELIEVE IN ORDER . THEY CANT FATHOM LEADERLESSNESS .

  • @jerryO.
    @jerryO. 2 місяці тому +1

    Acha kutuita gen z sasa. Ata kama we ni mzee

  • @sketchbabu
    @sketchbabu 2 місяці тому

    Kibe would be a place holder. The current vacuum is not advisable. Mwaf you could also make a good leader. I agree I would also ban national prayers 100% absolutely. That none-sense has done nothing for us except cement and legitimize the corruption of the participants. (Mkoloni alitu trap hapo kwenye dini for sure).

  • @agnesmaina1657
    @agnesmaina1657 2 місяці тому

    👍🏼

  • @sskamaro3902
    @sskamaro3902 2 місяці тому

    Leta Kibe studio

  • @trvkim9435
    @trvkim9435 2 місяці тому +1

    The problem I have with Kasmwuel is that he is not realistic, he is delusional

  • @drwasikeokile7299
    @drwasikeokile7299 2 місяці тому

    4:27 KASMUEL IS AN ASSET TO THE MOVEMENT . BONIFACE IS A LIABILITY

  • @wycliffepoet5201
    @wycliffepoet5201 2 місяці тому

    Leta Kasmuel MacOure

  • @ftclips-qu8sh
    @ftclips-qu8sh 2 місяці тому

    You got it fundamentally wrong. You need two things: Many Leaders and a political party. Ruto must go can only be done by a team. In Kenya, power is acquired through a party with several figureheads or charismatic people not one. Anything else will be a Wajakoyah failed experiment.

  • @ismailowino2866
    @ismailowino2866 2 місяці тому

    Political philosophy opines that the average voter is fundamentally ignorant.

  • @danielnginyo7399
    @danielnginyo7399 2 місяці тому

    You make valid points, Mwaf, but these kids disdain divergent opinions. As soon as they turned it into a generational spat, they lost. Everybody pandered to their lost nature, which goes to show what shitty parenting begets.

  • @luhyarockgeek
    @luhyarockgeek 2 місяці тому

    Wait. Reason yako ya kutojioffer kama leader ni utaban national "prayers"?
    Buda try reason ingine. Zeitgeist saa hii iko idhaa ya kuona results sio kuona maombi because The current powers that be habe already sullied that institution

  • @drwasikeokile7299
    @drwasikeokile7299 2 місяці тому +2

    4:45 THERE IT IS , THE COMMON GEN-XER ARGUMENT . SELF PRESERVATION OVER EVERYTHING . ALWAYS CHOOSING SAFETY OVER FREEDOM . NDIPO MAANA NMLIKUWA MNAIMBA "KANU YAJENGA NCHI" MAUMBWA

  • @abc007
    @abc007 2 місяці тому

    Lol, Mwaf alilipwa. Why r u in such a hurry for a leader?The leader will come at their time .Uoga mingi na kulipwa 527😂😂😂

    • @drwasikeokile7299
      @drwasikeokile7299 2 місяці тому

      MWAF AND YAFREEKA WERE PAID TO RUN INTERFERENCE FOR GOVERNMENT

  • @drwasikeokile7299
    @drwasikeokile7299 2 місяці тому

    1:55 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY OVERPROTESTING . PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF PROTESTING . YOU DIMWIT . WHENEVER THERE IS INJUSTICE THERE WILL BE PROTESTS . WHAT DO YOU MEAN OVERPROTESTING . MWAFREEKA DONT INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE

  • @Am_YT90
    @Am_YT90 2 місяці тому +2

    Not a leader per se they need REPRESENTATIVES

    • @kangwanadavid
      @kangwanadavid 2 місяці тому

      this will actually work, kwanza the reps keep changing.

    • @elonmonayo8958
      @elonmonayo8958 2 місяці тому +1

      Haha you guys are allergic to the word leader. Whether you like it or not, some in the movement will rise to the top, whether you call them representative or whatever

  • @rophusmsinga6749
    @rophusmsinga6749 2 місяці тому

    This guy Kasmuel i have a deep feeling is here to scam us ,its like he was being prepared for this moment,look at his public speaking prowess he has been coached

  • @wycliffepoet5201
    @wycliffepoet5201 2 місяці тому

    Mwaf i already told you you are a toddler in politics.
    Stop analyzing politics please. You may be 49.6 years but are a toddler in politics. It's the truty

  • @drwasikeokile7299
    @drwasikeokile7299 2 місяці тому

    3:48 DOES RAILA REPORT TO ODM OR ODM REPORTS TO RAILA . YOU ARE SO NAIVE . ANYBODY CAN BE CO-OPTED

  • @bryomuch
    @bryomuch 2 місяці тому

    leader ni wewe na watu wenyu

  • @jacklinemurunga8109
    @jacklinemurunga8109 2 місяці тому

    Kibe with his dirty language cannot be a good leader. Also he does not live in Kenya to understand why Genzs are fighting. No nj no to ANDREW KIBE.

  • @yusufferuz7129
    @yusufferuz7129 2 місяці тому

    Kibe ni mavi mwaf uo msee aende kajitombe huyo ni loser

  • @tombulimo2976
    @tombulimo2976 2 місяці тому

    You are wrong

  • @drwasikeokile7299
    @drwasikeokile7299 2 місяці тому

    0:52 MAKARIOUS YOU SPEAK ALOT OF NONSENSE . THE ENEMY IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT. IT IS THE POLITICAL CLASS .

  • @wycliffepoet5201
    @wycliffepoet5201 2 місяці тому

    Mwaf stop politics. You are a novice in politics

  • @KENYANSINDUBAI
    @KENYANSINDUBAI 2 місяці тому

    Stop saying we went out and protested. You did nothing mwaff just sitting talking shit about the movement

    • @amosodhiambo5605
      @amosodhiambo5605 2 місяці тому

      wewe ni rasa,, follow iko nini uwache umang'aa,,in the meantime, enda kajitombe,, hukumwona kwa protest,,ama wewe ni nis

    • @KENYANSINDUBAI
      @KENYANSINDUBAI 2 місяці тому

      @@amosodhiambo5605 ass kisser innit

  • @grayhandlimited353
    @grayhandlimited353 2 місяці тому

    Mwaf politics is not your cup of tea , wachana tu nayo it shows alot of ignorance om your part 😅

  • @acholadaniel
    @acholadaniel 2 місяці тому

    Who are the Gen Z? I dont believe kama kuna Movement inaitwa Gen Z... I believe Gen Z was a political tool socially designed by a politician to attain a certain objective or interest... One of features of that tool is that it can be able to shoot down anyone who wants to own it or guide it including the designer or creator...So naturally hakuna kitu kama Gen Z Movement ... Gen Z is just a Generation than knows how to Zoom the Internet and that is where the designer designed the movement... Politics ni mambo na Ground work... Sahi mambo imerudi Ground work kama kawaida... Lets open our BRAINS well...

  • @lolbella4171
    @lolbella4171 2 місяці тому

    Forget your nonsense of asking Gen Zs to have. Gen Zs leader is their common vision of a better Kenya for all.

  • @TIKTOK_CHANNEL101
    @TIKTOK_CHANNEL101 2 місяці тому

    i do agree with a structure .i love kasmuel and also involve women.
    Mwaf wewe ungekuwa leader ulisema ukipewa lambo unaswitch haraka sana 😂😂😂hell no

  • @wycliffepoet5201
    @wycliffepoet5201 2 місяці тому

    Makarios not rudderless.
    Don't be stupid na roho chafu kama mama wa kambo..
    Ni: leaderless
    Party less
    Tribe less

    • @abc007
      @abc007 2 місяці тому

      Tell these people again and again. N do not forget it urself