Classical Composer Reacts to The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater) | The Daily Doug (Episode 57)

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  • Опубліковано 14 лют 2021
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    In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to The Dance of Eternity by Dream Theater. This performance was performed Live at the Boston Opera House. I have great respect for these incredible musicians!
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  • @MicheleThiella
    @MicheleThiella 3 роки тому +1584

    Once I've read this about John Petrucci: "John arpeggio's is so clean that kills 99,9% of bacteria" :D

    • @willasacco9898
      @willasacco9898 3 роки тому +19

      I read that also. It is one of the cleverest reaction comments I have ever come across.

    • @melast584
      @melast584 3 роки тому +3

      On the new LTE 3 teaser?

    • @MicheleThiella
      @MicheleThiella 3 роки тому +3

      Yes

    • @Aditya90sKZ
      @Aditya90sKZ 3 роки тому +2

      Spat water 😂

    • @MumbyHitsDrums
      @MumbyHitsDrums 3 роки тому +1

      Lol, now that's funny!

  • @HerbalistGuybrush
    @HerbalistGuybrush 3 роки тому +313

    Reactor: Cant the drummer do something more intersting?
    Meanwhile the drummer: playing nested tuplets and through 130 time signature changes

    • @RAAZR-
      @RAAZR- 2 роки тому

      Does he do 130 time signature changes when he does a stale double kick for 4 bars? No? Then stfu cause that's what he means.

    • @HerbalistGuybrush
      @HerbalistGuybrush 2 роки тому +1

      @@RAAZR- where u live

    • @RAAZR-
      @RAAZR- 2 роки тому +5

      @@HerbalistGuybrush Denmark. Totally irrelevant.

    • @HerbalistGuybrush
      @HerbalistGuybrush 2 роки тому +8

      @@RAAZR- Fitting self-discription

    • @SoscaSumihadi
      @SoscaSumihadi Рік тому +13

      Don't mind him. He mostly only cares about key progression, different scales played and sometimes what the lyric means.
      He had little to none care about the different things the drummer did. About the different time signature and all.
      Oh, he did mention the time measure at 14th minute. but strangely he did not mention the drummer that guards it.. 😜

  • @MycontentisgoldJerryGold
    @MycontentisgoldJerryGold 3 роки тому +1018

    The guitarist and bassist attended Berklee College of Music. And the keyboardist was accepted to Juilliard at age nine. Not surprising that they are so good.

    • @notmybadd
      @notmybadd 3 роки тому +226

      And Mangini taught at Berklee.

    • @reyhanvivaldi9597
      @reyhanvivaldi9597 3 роки тому +134

      And Mangini was the professor at Berklee

    • @Adixon5
      @Adixon5 3 роки тому +92

      What? Age NINE?! I had no idea Jordan Rudess was that proficient

    • @mariomorales9984
      @mariomorales9984 3 роки тому +170

      @@Adixon5 I would say Rudess is the most alien of the group. Insane talent.

    • @noahmijo
      @noahmijo 3 роки тому +154

      @@Adixon5 :::::Jordan in 2nd grade::::
      Jordan’s teacher-“Your son played the piano very well in class today”
      Jordan’s mom: “but my son doesn’t play the piano!”
      True story.

  • @orcasarebest
    @orcasarebest 3 роки тому +149

    this is maybe the first time in my life ive heard someone say "cant the drums do something more interesting?" when watching or listening to this song.

    • @sayanmandal2246
      @sayanmandal2246 2 роки тому +9

      Maybe he would like Mike Portnoy rather than Mike Mangini 😂

    • @Puhckaaaa
      @Puhckaaaa 2 місяці тому +3

      @@sayanmandal2246this song was wrote by portnoy??

    • @EthanTheGreat9000
      @EthanTheGreat9000 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Puhckaaaayes lol it came out in 1999, when portnoy was originally in the band. mangini didn’t come around until 2010, but now portnoy is back again THANK THE GODS

  • @stephanweinberger
    @stephanweinberger 3 роки тому +808

    "cant the drummer do something more interesting" ... in Dance of Eternity... bold comment :-D

    • @TheVuducha
      @TheVuducha 3 роки тому +7

      Finally, finally!!

    • @nicholastotoro7721
      @nicholastotoro7721 3 роки тому +112

      More like "ignorant comment" than bold.

    • @yanava
      @yanava 3 роки тому +52

      @@nicholastotoro7721 mangini has raped the song in terms of dynamics, so his technique only shows when displaying raw power

    • @nicholastotoro7721
      @nicholastotoro7721 3 роки тому +6

      @@yanava
      I'm speaking more to the drum parts themselves than Mangini's performance. I'm not particularly a Mangini fan.

    • @Naomi-animations
      @Naomi-animations 3 роки тому +19

      He was referring to bass drum line, which is not the most complex relative to the rest of the time signatures...

  • @Studebeezy
    @Studebeezy 3 роки тому +1453

    "Can't the drummer do something more interesting than 16th notes on the double kick?" - Ignores everything else the drummer does in the song.

    • @alistaircurrie9794
      @alistaircurrie9794 3 роки тому +203

      Changes time signature every few bars

    • @TheBleedout
      @TheBleedout 3 роки тому +246

      It's pretty obvious this guy doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to drums.

    • @surajitnaskar46
      @surajitnaskar46 3 роки тому +82

      Coz this is not portnoy. ।😂

    • @TheBleedout
      @TheBleedout 3 роки тому +51

      @@surajitnaskar46 lol Give it a rest buddy

    • @pedrophs2
      @pedrophs2 3 роки тому +127

      He just doesn't like the style of drumming, he said that...
      Clearly he is a keyboard player, he emphasizes a lot on that, but he doesn't need to like the drums
      It's just strange to hear someone who doesn't like DT drums, but these people are out there

  • @scottking7260
    @scottking7260 3 роки тому +542

    As a bass player that holds John Myung in such high esteem, I am so happy to finally see a reactor that recognizes Mr. Myung!! I know Petrucci is a beast, but everyone always goes full fanboi on the guitar. Bassists matter too!

    • @uncletom-e4461
      @uncletom-e4461 3 роки тому +11

      Scott King... I'm the bass player in Rush tribute band... I get goose bumps listening to John Myung playing. He has become my favorite bassist...(Sorry, Geddy)...!!!

    • @TogonzoMedia
      @TogonzoMedia 3 роки тому +7

      @@uncletom-e4461 Exactly. First time I heard John Myung's bass work on "Take The Time", I forgot all about Geddy Lee, John Deacon, Dave Hope, and Chris Squire. My current favorites are Myung and Tony Levin.

    • @jeffsirard8234
      @jeffsirard8234 3 роки тому +14

      As a huge admirer of Petrucci, I totally agree that Myung deserves a tremendous amount of praise.

    • @andystokes8702
      @andystokes8702 3 роки тому +10

      I think the reason the John Myung is so often underappreciated is because he's on stage with a guitarist, a keyboard player and a drummer who are some of the greatest out there. If he were in any other band he would be the outstanding performer by a mile.

    • @TogonzoMedia
      @TogonzoMedia 3 роки тому +5

      @@jeffsirard8234 Especially in light of the fact that he's nowhere near as animated as he was in early 1990s. I think all that head banging he used to do did a number on his neck and shoulders to the point where he literally must stand still to concentrate on his playing as the weight of the bass guitar and the responsibility to the music is excruciating. None of these guys are spring chickens anymore.

  • @Kreln1221
    @Kreln1221 3 роки тому +578

    *You do realize that Mike Mangini, the drummer, resigned his position as a Professor at Berklee College of Music in order to take the Dream Theater gig?*

    • @mixmixture7049
      @mixmixture7049 3 роки тому +47

      Still better Portnoy.

    • @hayuningtyas5684
      @hayuningtyas5684 3 роки тому +6

      @@mixmixture7049 but still good

    • @victorumanzor8984
      @victorumanzor8984 3 роки тому +29

      @@mixmixture7049 Portnoy wanted to come back to DT, but they stood up to Mangini, because he left his job

    • @lambangwidy
      @lambangwidy 3 роки тому +7

      @@victorumanzor8984 Who said that? are you just like the other MP fanboy who just made the story up?
      jeezzz, plz move on...

    • @darthslagle5979
      @darthslagle5979 2 роки тому +41

      @@lambangwidy first let me say I'm a Mangini fan. But it is true that after Pornoy got let go from A7X that he reached out to see if it were a possibility for him to come back. Mangini isn't stupid though. So when he accepted the DT job he has contract stipulations of his own. The things in this contract are meant to protect both parties and cover things like his minimum number of albums, a specific amount of time for things like clinics, equipment endorsement appearances(like NAMM)
      and his ability to partake in "side projects". So the guy you were replying to may be a Portnoy fanboy, but he's correct. Not to mention there are interviews with Portnoy himself discussing his attempt to come back.

  • @merqury5
    @merqury5 3 роки тому +539

    Cant mangini do anything but 16th notes .....
    Mangini: hold my calculator

  • @michaelberresford4291
    @michaelberresford4291 2 роки тому +66

    Former drummer Mike Portnoy has a video counting out this song a little, it changes time signature over 100 times. The songs a monster and I believe it is a staple on the concert roster.

  • @MR-ml2po
    @MR-ml2po 3 роки тому +265

    They are the most technically perfect band I've ever seen live. Like high level orchestra level of precision level. They are incredible.

    • @sabian5393
      @sabian5393 3 роки тому +2

      @Johnny Dong I'm inclined to agree.

    • @headkickko609
      @headkickko609 3 роки тому +4

      Guthrie and Marco would disagree....

    • @aramgaribyan6248
      @aramgaribyan6248 3 роки тому +5

      Go see Tommy Emannuel live. You'll shit where you sit. I've seen every great metal band imaginable live (my favorite being Maiden and Opeth, many times), and after seeing Tommy, I just couldn't believe what my ears were hearing. Absolutely fucking nuts.

    • @headkickko609
      @headkickko609 3 роки тому

      @@aramgaribyan6248 well I've seen Sting live and I've seen DT live and although I am a rock dude, if I am honest the Sting show was kinda better.

    • @Proghead88
      @Proghead88 3 роки тому +2

      To be honest, high-level Orchestra musicians aren't necessarily that rhythmically precise. That has started to change in recent years because of a younger generation that is more exposed to modern R&B styles, Rock/Fusion, or beat-based music (and modern jazz musicians who have become influenced by it). In some ways, the orchestra is really trying to keep up with the band.

  • @AstraVex
    @AstraVex 3 роки тому +32

    2:58 - "Clap along, guys! QUICK! It's the only part in 4/4 you're gonna hear for a while! 🤣"

    • @JerGol
      @JerGol 3 роки тому +1

      Always hilarious at a gig to see the difference between those who know the time change is coming up and all stop nodding or clapping, whereas those who don't are suddenly off the beat and quickly realise they're utterly lost! 😄

  • @RuloGonzo666
    @RuloGonzo666 3 роки тому +272

    "Double bass drums turns me off". He starts to head bang when double bass drums starts again in the middle of the song.

    • @domen6398
      @domen6398 3 роки тому +46

      @Rumble Jungle Why does everything have to be political?

    • @mr198221
      @mr198221 3 роки тому +4

      Lolz. I'm sure he likes some of it, just not all double bass parts.
      There's a part in 'Honor thy father' that is totally unnecessary to have the double bass. Wish I could specify the part.

    • @axemanfishing2703
      @axemanfishing2703 3 роки тому +17

      I noticed that as well, the headbanging. But as a classical musician, he cant turn his brain off long enough to realize that drums are the groove thing that makes you move and bob your head. He was doing it, but doesnt understand it.

    • @hannes1734
      @hannes1734 3 роки тому +10

      @Rumble Jungle You're making things that you don't like political, you can only be a Republican

    • @julianflores6708
      @julianflores6708 3 роки тому

      @@hannes1734 you think that everyone that disagrees with you is republican, you must be a democrat.

  • @HCXWinchester
    @HCXWinchester 3 роки тому +194

    108 time signature changes in one song! No one said so it came down to me i guess lmao. Liquid Tension Experiment - Acid Rain :)

    • @elBanananas
      @elBanananas 3 роки тому +16

      124* wikipedia has it wrong. I counted them in the official guitar tab

    • @metaloreo8423
      @metaloreo8423 3 роки тому

      @@elBanananas wow

    • @shramankeys228
      @shramankeys228 3 роки тому

      Yes actually it should be more than 108 because in the video where Portnoy shows the time signature changes, it had the last part of the song and it alone was more than 50.

    • @fabioriato
      @fabioriato 3 роки тому +2

      @@shramankeys228 a good portion of track (more especifically the middle sections) is in 4/4 with no changes, that's why its "only" 108 (or 124 as the other guy mentioned).

    • @shramankeys228
      @shramankeys228 3 роки тому +1

      @@fabioriato Yes you maybe right. Because I just went back and counted on the video I am referring to and so 70 changes in that only. Never the less, in the breakdown before the rag time solo + the rag time solo is on 4/4. So maybe it can exceed 108. But nevertheless, it definitely is the mother of all instrumentals.❤️

  • @almosthuman1398
    @almosthuman1398 3 роки тому +25

    There are 108 time signature changes in this song... or said another way, "it's all over the joint".
    What was it you said about how interesting the drummer is with his double-kicks?

  • @DieRumpelkammer
    @DieRumpelkammer 3 роки тому +33

    We called that "calculator metal" a few days ago. The breaks and changes in tempo and style are so complex, that you nearly need a calculator, to follow this awesome music! One of my favorite bands of all time

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Рік тому +2

      The term/genre math metal has been around for years.

  • @donkarnage6032
    @donkarnage6032 3 роки тому +449

    "Can't the drummer do more than just 16th notes on the double kick" A) He does. B) It's how they're keeping time amongst the 100+ meter changes in the song. They had to simplify something somewhere so their heads don't explode.

    • @Icaro83
      @Icaro83 3 роки тому +15

      +1000000000

    • @GrandHighGamer
      @GrandHighGamer 3 роки тому +8

      Worth acknowledging that they could easily have a metronome in their IEMs if needed. It's not like the drums are the only thing keeping the musicians time.

    • @ErnestRamos
      @ErnestRamos 3 роки тому +19

      @@GrandHighGamer they do run a click (when Mangini started playing for them).
      IMO if he wants to find more complex double kick patterns from DT, then he should look at the newer songs.

    • @sistematickamaleon7410
      @sistematickamaleon7410 3 роки тому +7

      may be because the tone of his kickdrum is really awfull

    • @estebanacosta3385
      @estebanacosta3385 3 роки тому

      that´s undestandable, they are not tool

  • @jonm4733
    @jonm4733 3 роки тому +73

    Myung is one of the most underrated bass players out there. He is absolutely amazing. A true inspiration.

    • @kardRatzinger
      @kardRatzinger 3 роки тому +13

      He's not underrated, his awesomeness is actually very well recognised and acknowledged.

    • @luisangelm.721
      @luisangelm.721 3 роки тому +4

      He is not underrated, actually he has been considered as the world's best bassist

    • @jwismar11
      @jwismar11 3 роки тому +7

      A lot of times I wish he were a bit louder in the mix.

    • @RenatoRock
      @RenatoRock 2 роки тому +3

      With a great hair

  • @augustalaurentbiehly3277
    @augustalaurentbiehly3277 3 роки тому +146

    The drummer is exceptional. To me he is one of the most inventive drummers ever. Ambidextrous to top it all. The double-kick is an acquired taste but it fits the music IMHO. What he does with his hands is stunning. Mangini rules ;-)

    • @scorpiusbalthazar4327
      @scorpiusbalthazar4327 2 роки тому +2

      He also practices Bruce Lee's 1 inch punch technique which is also how he's so powerful. He's highly gifted.

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Рік тому +13

      and he did not write these drum parts.

    • @marshaltito7369
      @marshaltito7369 Рік тому +2

      @@krusher74 For this song, no. However, he wrote just as musical and technically harder parts on the newer songs.

    • @demikianlah
      @demikianlah Рік тому +4

      @@krusher74 why do mp fans hate mangini? They are just a different person, style, and influences...

    • @mrdimitroff
      @mrdimitroff Рік тому +4

      @@demikianlah Who's hating Mangini? He didn't write this song, as simple as that.

  • @alexwerners
    @alexwerners 3 роки тому +36

    I would recommend you listen to the whole album "Scenes from a memory" so that you understand the context of Dance of Eternity. Probably a better experience!

    • @scorpiusbalthazar4327
      @scorpiusbalthazar4327 2 роки тому +2

      I'd recommend listening to Metropolis part 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper directly before the album

  • @drifter1993
    @drifter1993 3 роки тому +57

    "Can't the drummer do something more interesting than 16th notes on the double kick?"
    And this is why people hate the critics.

    • @greenbackz
      @greenbackz 2 роки тому

      ya. nevermind the stuff he's doing on top of the 16th notes. but i think he's realized by now after seeing some of his other DT reactions after this video lol

  • @RandyWillcox
    @RandyWillcox 3 роки тому +18

    I noticed the ragtime bit got quite a reaction. This song is from their album Scenes From A Memory. It's a concept album about a guy who goes to see a psychiatrist about recurring dreams he has in which he sees a woman who is murdered and he believes she is trying to reveal secrets about her death and they do past life regression. He discovers through the analysis that the woman in the dream was him in a past life and the psychiatrist...was the man who murdered her in his past life. So the themes bounce around, hence that very cool jangly piano part. And yes, they are outstanding live, as you can see...and hear!

    • @--CHARLIE--
      @--CHARLIE-- Рік тому

      Holy shit thats an awesome plot. I'm still new to dream theater so I don't know the storyline especially behind any of the albums, but that one is really cool.

  • @omega1231
    @omega1231 3 роки тому +34

    Metal musicians; we like half-steps almost as much as jazz musicians

  • @JakobStrand
    @JakobStrand 3 роки тому +28

    "He suggested The Dance of Eternity" Well...of course he did.

  • @MarceloBastosValbao
    @MarceloBastosValbao 2 роки тому +21

    "can the drummer do something more interesting than just 16th notes? " -> yes he can, he is mike mangini, try his drum solo on steve vai show "alive in an ultraworld"

  • @RogerSullivanNOLA
    @RogerSullivanNOLA 3 роки тому +82

    You have to realize it's a concept album. The title "Dance of Eternity" references a line in the lyrics, not necessarily that the song is a "dance." That's also why the ending seems abrupt, as it leads into the next track of the album. I do love Dream Theater, but their instrumental sections sometimes do meander a lot. This one does that, but it also has a lot of parts that make more sense when you realize they are referencing other parts of the music, in an overture kind of way. One part references an earlier, related piece "Metropolis Pt1," this album as a whole is "Pt2." Cool vid though. I'll give you a sub and check out more.

    • @Sun2ni
      @Sun2ni 2 роки тому +8

      Also, you could say that:
      Dance ~ Movement
      Eternity ~ Time
      Considering the time signature changes, we could imply that the only thing dancing in the song is Time.

  • @aaizner847
    @aaizner847 3 роки тому +256

    You: I don't like double kick.
    Me: Your opinion no longer matters to me.

    • @scottmay4291
      @scottmay4291 3 роки тому +9

      I don't think he's been exposed enough to realize that Mangini can play a single kick just as fast.

    • @Chris-yj2di
      @Chris-yj2di 3 роки тому +9

      Very mature of you.

    • @aaizner847
      @aaizner847 3 роки тому +5

      @@Chris-yj2di Please explain what this has to do with maturity.

    • @mvunit3
      @mvunit3 3 роки тому

      Hahahaha! :D

    • @applesaus395
      @applesaus395 3 роки тому +10

      @@aaizner847 because you disagree with one thing that is *subjective* you disregard his entire opinion. Making you immature

  • @tonyspro
    @tonyspro 3 роки тому +11

    My dad growing up in the same neighbourhood as Kevin (James) Labrie in Toronto, they’ve been good friends but have obviously split apart ever since he became the lead singer of dream theatre. As a kid I remember meeting James Labrie at his own house while we were visiting family in Toronto. I was probably about 9, and hadn’t yet discovered my love for music, so i didnt have the faintest clue who he was. All i knew was he was rich and his son had lots of stuff to play with haha. Thinking back on it now, it seems almost unreal that i was actually there

    • @olimpicus
      @olimpicus 3 роки тому +2

      my uncle worked for nintendo

    • @planetcaravan2925
      @planetcaravan2925 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@olimpicusmy uncle used to be a crab

  • @fasgamboa
    @fasgamboa 3 роки тому +17

    Its overwhelming, like a hammer. YES!

    • @jaush69
      @jaush69 3 роки тому +2

      Nailed it. *Dad joke intended*

  • @racewarkingdomsable
    @racewarkingdomsable 3 роки тому +32

    The best possible song by Dream Theater for your style of reaction is definitely Octavarium, it's simply a musical masterpiece. You just have to take into account the context of the album it's on. I'd kill to see you react to this one.

    • @ConkersBFD
      @ConkersBFD 3 роки тому

      This comment deserves to be upvoted like crazy. That would be a pretty interesting reaction !

    • @Drewhardin96
      @Drewhardin96 2 роки тому +1

      He already did

    • @ConkersBFD
      @ConkersBFD 2 роки тому +1

      @@Drewhardin96 he didn't at the time of the comment. I'm glad he did, I was certain he would love it !

    • @Drewhardin96
      @Drewhardin96 2 роки тому +1

      @@ConkersBFD oh wow I didn’t even realize this was 4 months ago. My b

    • @racewarkingdomsable
      @racewarkingdomsable 2 роки тому

      @@Drewhardin96 Yeah, not 4 months ago when I made this comment, bruh

  • @robertocalvo934
    @robertocalvo934 3 роки тому +1

    Went down the rabbit hole of "reactions to" a few days ago and yours are my favorites so far. Knowledgeable and smart points. Cheers

  • @igormarconatto3601
    @igormarconatto3601 3 роки тому +1

    My new favorite reaction channel. Thank you Doug, a brazilian fan of your reacts in UA-cam.

  • @acuriousrobot1375
    @acuriousrobot1375 2 роки тому +8

    One of the reasons this band is so amazing is because each member is ASTOUNDING at their instrument, and they know the flow of their instrument. So together they are just hypnotising

  • @OrdinaryDude
    @OrdinaryDude 3 роки тому +11

    I kept waiting for the revelation that the band shows a heavy influence of Gustav Mahler.
    As much as I love Rush and Iron Maiden, I think Dream Theater take the prize for dedication to musical extravagance and knowledge. These guys understand... It... All.

    • @OrdinaryDude
      @OrdinaryDude 10 місяців тому

      @lunely-muhlennial-mensch the Ist To be fair, I don't KNOW that they are, I just think they are by listening to their music; especially the earlier stuff. Dance of Eternity, Metropolis, etc.

  • @michelleangers342
    @michelleangers342 3 роки тому

    I just found your channel and I'm enjoying it very much. Thank you so much for sharing!

  • @tonygarza4977
    @tonygarza4977 Рік тому

    You make the only reaction videos on UA-cam that I truly learn from!!!

  • @Danceofmasks
    @Danceofmasks 3 роки тому +29

    There's a recent violin cover of this song by Unlucky Morpheus that's pretty good.

    • @PhoenixDecim
      @PhoenixDecim 3 роки тому +3

      That was so good

    • @seraphimdunn
      @seraphimdunn 2 роки тому

      Their cover of "Far Beyond the Sun" by Yngwie is somehow even better. They are a ridiculously talented group of musicians

  • @FrozenMonkee
    @FrozenMonkee 3 роки тому +36

    Look up “The odd time signatures of The Dance of Eternity” where the original drummer Mike Portnoy shows the time signature. It’s insane....

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Рік тому +1

      but doug would be triggered once it got to the 4/4 bars with 16th notes on the bass drums

  • @MrScorilo777
    @MrScorilo777 3 роки тому +1

    Seriously dude, you're really funny. Gonna subscribe and watch all the vids on your channel because you have a lot of songs that I like

  • @alexfredrikssonshred
    @alexfredrikssonshred Рік тому

    love your vids, learned a lot of theory from you, thanks!

  • @staalhard4044
    @staalhard4044 3 роки тому +6

    You're on a roll with the longer pieces lately. Wooooooo! This really shows this reaction channel isn't going for the easy views, but is about pure dedication and unbiased analysis. There is one magnus opus missing though... One which no composer ever dared to dissect: X-Japan's "The Art Of Life".
    This heavily orchestrated piece (recorded with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra) comprises several passages of varying speeds and instrumentation, including numerous verses, with no set chorus, several harmonized guitar solos, and eight minutes performed solely on piano.
    The music was inspired by Schubert's Unfinished Symphony.
    In 2011, drummer, pianist and main composer Yoshiki recalled that he wrote the song in roughly two weeks and that recording took approximately two years (!!). As for the lyrical theme, he said he drew from his own life, particularly from how he felt suicidal when his father died.

  • @larry8lo
    @larry8lo 3 роки тому +6

    Fun facts. There's a ton of connections to Berklee School of Music. Petrucci (guitar) and Myung (bass) went there for a year and a half. Mangini (drums) was an associate professor at Berklee. The orchestra is assembled from Berklee students. Rudess (keys) is the lone except who was a product of Juiliard, but his protege Eren Basbug is the conductor of the orchestra who was also a Berklee student at the time. It's sort of school band kind of situation I guess ;)

    • @Tommy-5684
      @Tommy-5684 3 роки тому

      i thought this show was Portnoy not Mangini atlest i think it was before Mangini joined?

  • @nicholaskoehler104
    @nicholaskoehler104 3 роки тому

    Hey Doug, I watch a LOT of music reaction content. I recently discovered your channel and am astounded at the depth and off the cuff analysis alike you provide - I’m hooked. Thanks so much!! Suggestion for you: Thank You Scientist is a rising all star band for and by virtuosos that infused prog metal with jazz / ska. Double horn mainstays on top of classic rock line up. Subscribed!

  • @j.r.1030
    @j.r.1030 3 роки тому +23

    Every time he balks at Mangini God kills a kitten.

    • @michaelflorczyk1394
      @michaelflorczyk1394 3 роки тому

      Hahaha!! Not everybody enjoys double bass, unfortunately. If it's overused it can be pretty annoying since it'll take a lot of the groove away, but when it's placed correctly it's amazing. Even Mike Portnoy on some tracks off of Black Clouds used way too much double kick in my opinion. Shattered Fortress being a good example.

    • @j.r.1030
      @j.r.1030 3 роки тому

      @@michaelflorczyk1394 haha very true.

    • @mvunit3
      @mvunit3 3 роки тому

      Hehehehe :P

    • @mysterygamer5179
      @mysterygamer5179 Місяць тому

      Its still an amazing song🤟

  • @hitsurei
    @hitsurei 3 роки тому +72

    This isn’t even power metal or death metal and the double kick already overwhelms you. lol

    • @landonpeckham7752
      @landonpeckham7752 3 роки тому +6

      infant annihilator. That is a thing.

    • @agent2face512
      @agent2face512 3 роки тому +3

      @@landonpeckham7752 *blasphemian intensifies*

    • @Maldito011316
      @Maldito011316 3 роки тому

      @@landonpeckham7752 Someone recommended "The Devil's name is Surveillance" by Meshuggah :) Now that's an anxiety inducing bass drum.

    • @landonpeckham7752
      @landonpeckham7752 3 роки тому

      @@Maldito011316 ya think lol

  • @viniminimo2268
    @viniminimo2268 3 роки тому +33

    "Can't the drummer do something more interesting?" Like seriously? More interesting then 108 time signatures in 6 minutes? Omg

    • @vitorferreira8899
      @vitorferreira8899 3 роки тому +7

      Was bout to write just dat... I literally laughed so much when he said dat! 😂😂

    • @PaleHorseShabuShabu
      @PaleHorseShabuShabu 3 роки тому

      @@vitorferreira8899 dat = so gangsta!

    • @Afther
      @Afther 3 роки тому +5

      Well, its kinda difficult to catch that on the first listen, specially in a live version

    • @PJBonoVox
      @PJBonoVox 3 роки тому +10

      He said 'more interesting than 16th notes on the double pedal'. He wasn't referring to the whole piece.

    • @onearthonelegion
      @onearthonelegion 3 роки тому +2

      If you do too much something it becomes uninteresting

  • @motormanx3062
    @motormanx3062 3 роки тому

    I waited a long time to see a classical conductor/composer really dig deep into rock music for what it was and u get it...at the same time teaching about classical as well and how they relate...Thanks...God Bless...J

  • @NEntv58
    @NEntv58 2 роки тому +2

    Just can't get over how authentic and enjoyable this guy is. He's really adding to music appreciation and understanding.

  • @jonathanhenderson9422
    @jonathanhenderson9422 3 роки тому +3

    One interesting thing about this piece is that even though it can be listened to in isolation it contains a lot of motifs from both Metropolis pt. 1 (a song from a previous album) and from the Scenes from a Memory album, which this track is from. It's a concept album, hence all the recurring motifs to tie everything together.
    RE the double-kick drum... drummer is doing a ton of interesting things here, including over 100 time signature changes, over the double-kicks. Double-kick in metal is indeed ubiquitous: it's the "ground" from which everything is built on. You should check out Meshuggah where the double-kick often copies the rhythmically knotty guitar riffs, while Haake (the drummer) will keep a 4/4 with one and do something weird/different with the other hand. Clockworks is a good intro, especially if you watch the drum video.

  • @semih7y
    @semih7y 3 роки тому +162

    I think you should react to Symphony X - The Odyssey. It’s about time

    • @exscape
      @exscape 3 роки тому +10

      That would fit this channel sooo well.

    • @AngeloGuardia
      @AngeloGuardia 3 роки тому +2

      yeeeeeees

    • @joshuatolentino7215
      @joshuatolentino7215 3 роки тому +5

      without a doubt. H I G H L Y R E C O M M E N D E D

    • @joeyuzwa891
      @joeyuzwa891 3 роки тому +4

      yessssssssssssssss that song is truly a journey. practically a mini symphony, that song

    • @YouthCoachingDK
      @YouthCoachingDK 3 роки тому +7

      I second that 👍
      Symphony X 👍

  • @rickydefuzz8637
    @rickydefuzz8637 2 роки тому

    Pretty new to the channel, subscribed and loving it! I'm pretty sure there are 108 different time signatures in this song.

  • @markpenner6989
    @markpenner6989 3 роки тому +1

    I always love watching peoples' reactions when they get to the ragtime piano section.

  • @iancraig5415
    @iancraig5415 3 роки тому +9

    I highly recommend you check out the band Meshuggah. They take the sound of extreme metal and entwine it with incredibly complex yet percussive rhythyms that are both headbangable and mind-blowing. Songs like Bleed, Clockworks, and Dancers to a Discordant system show this off well and they are absolutely masters of polyrhythyms.

    • @chadmarx7718
      @chadmarx7718 3 роки тому +5

      He'll probably hate it coz "dOuBlE bAsS"

    • @mvunit3
      @mvunit3 3 роки тому

      I'll go back a bit where their "Progressive" side was extraordinary . . . "Future Breed Machine", because of the "change" of mood in the middle, the "Allan Holdsworth" inspired Solo "breath of fresh air," (then suddenly back into the Brvtality! Where its _mandatory_ to headbang!) and all in 4/4 . . . . but its what they are doing _within_ the 4/4 that boggles the mind, and that each switch to Lead to percussion, even Jens the vocalist.
      I wonder if Doug could deal with "I" (hehe, especially the INSANE "intro")?

  • @arpeggioblues5924
    @arpeggioblues5924 3 роки тому +9

    Ya know when I first was introduced to Dream Theater, I had the same reaction about the "machine-gun" bass drum.. but after listening for a lot longer, I found it fit the dimension and feel of the music.. it's is intensity is immersive.. (imho)

  • @CorM1
    @CorM1 3 роки тому

    Great to see you analyse this, and if you love this or not, and i know a lot of People who doesnt like this, this is so immens difficult and thats makes this so good to watch.

  • @MiniJP86
    @MiniJP86 3 роки тому

    About the only one of these videos I’ve watched entirely! Appreciate an expert’s opinion.

  • @Blackened4everPS3
    @Blackened4everPS3 3 роки тому +5

    If you like that, i recommend watching the whole Instrumedley live at Budokan. Thats incredible to the max. And its with their original drummer Mike Portnoy.

  • @frontprochproduction
    @frontprochproduction 3 роки тому +4

    As a retired drummer, I love DT for their chord changes...

  • @mprandato
    @mprandato 3 роки тому +2

    The dance of eternity makes me a lot of goosebumps 🤘🏻

  • @Maximum357
    @Maximum357 3 роки тому +2

    Your friend makes good suggestions. One of the best songs ever.

  • @FM9k
    @FM9k 3 роки тому +37

    For something different, you should do Ayreon's music video for "The Day that the World Breaks Down". I think you'd have a fun byplay with the notes from the songwriter that accompany the music.

    • @ibd1977
      @ibd1977 3 роки тому +5

      Need to react to the official video with Arjen's notes on production. But can't wait for that reaction video.

    • @FM9k
      @FM9k 3 роки тому +1

      @@ibd1977 exactly!

  • @ros8737
    @ros8737 3 роки тому +7

    Kudos to you for acknowledging virtuosity regardless genre. For me a whole concert of this “Paganini” stuff would be too exhausting, every song is like a mashup of a whole album of songs.

  • @gamesandguitars354
    @gamesandguitars354 2 роки тому

    Great reaction video Doug 🙂

  • @NAFUSO1
    @NAFUSO1 Рік тому +2

    "I'm sure it's very, very complex." Yes. Yes it is.

  • @DoctaRon
    @DoctaRon 3 роки тому +50

    Best Dream Theater vocal ever.

    • @lolskix
      @lolskix 3 роки тому

      One of the weakest vocalists ever

    • @pedroantonelli2073
      @pedroantonelli2073 3 роки тому +2

      Have you heard the first 3 albums (Images and Words, Awake, A Change of Seasons)?

    • @slugtoenail
      @slugtoenail 3 роки тому +1

      I think it was sarcasm.

  • @AnnWahlquist
    @AnnWahlquist 3 роки тому +5

    Dance of eternety is part of an concept album, you realy have to listen to the whole album to get it..... This song is just a part of a story

    • @RenatoRock
      @RenatoRock 2 роки тому +1

      Difficult to do this nowadays in Spotify time , there's a cut between the songs...
      That's amazing to think about CDs concept's

  • @psychodelian
    @psychodelian 3 роки тому +1

    I love it! This guy listens to music the same way I do! Do more DT!!!

  • @Vita-a-stelle-e-strisce
    @Vita-a-stelle-e-strisce 2 роки тому +1

    Doug you are a classical composer and I am sure you will enjoy Dream Theater's Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, the live version at Radio City Music Hall. I was there, it was 2006, and on the second part of the concert, after a break, the darkness and silence were broken by something that none of us fans was expecting: an entire orchestra came up from nowhere and started to play it. Pure Magic.

  • @tedg2819
    @tedg2819 3 роки тому +24

    If you want something as much or more interesting musically check out Liquid Tension Experiment "When The Water Breaks". The group has Petrucci, Portnoy, and Rudess from Dream Theater.

    • @Brandon-zn8rf
      @Brandon-zn8rf 3 роки тому

      YES!!! Pissed this amazing recommendation only has a single like.

    • @increase9896
      @increase9896 3 роки тому

      liquid tension experiment, huh. thats the most prog-rocky band name ive heard in a while lol

    • @seraphimdunn
      @seraphimdunn 2 роки тому

      "When the Water Breaks" is so good. "Acid Rain" is my favorite LTE track. They are so much filthier when they dont have to make space for vocals lol

  • @amirhoseinrajaee8615
    @amirhoseinrajaee8615 3 роки тому +10

    Now react to "Liquid Tension Experiment - When the water breaks", they are Dream Theater without the vocalist

    • @Tintop
      @Tintop 3 роки тому

      and without bassist

    • @Prog4Prog
      @Prog4Prog 3 роки тому

      Yeah good shout! Just in time for LTE 3 ;)

  • @scottdenniston7766
    @scottdenniston7766 3 роки тому

    Glad to see you done Yngwie, their are many more you could do. Love your love I think you have of Dream Theatre!

  • @clifftotten7609
    @clifftotten7609 3 роки тому

    AWESOME analysis! Wow!

  • @ronchiles399
    @ronchiles399 3 роки тому +8

    I actually like this guy's analysis and can appreciate his perspective without him being a fan of progressive drums. Classical music is arranged differently so I am remaining objective. BTW, I love DT! I'm a keyboardist and love every musician and their work.

  • @josiahgibson6373
    @josiahgibson6373 3 роки тому +5

    The Dance of Eternity is all about interesting time signatures.
    This guy seems to be much more interested in what DT was doing with it's chord progressions.
    I think a better Dream Theater song for him would be "The Ministry of Lost Souls". Great song and I think this guy would find it especially intriguing based on how he reacted to this song.
    Edit: Also, almost no double bass, lol.

    • @RichardMoltisanti-ou7ll
      @RichardMoltisanti-ou7ll 5 місяців тому +1

      Amazed I had to scroll so far to see this. A song with 108 time signature changes in in 6 minutes and he is more worried about the bass pedals.

    • @operavin
      @operavin 3 місяці тому

      Classical composition is about chords; metal emphasizes polyrhythms.
      Kashmir is a classic example. 3 over 4. Brilliant.
      Of course DT went WAAAAAAY beyond that! 😅

  • @Carrillocaster
    @Carrillocaster 3 роки тому

    Have your well deserved like sir. Loved your accurate "on the fly" comments on the piece. On a side note, the 16th notes on the bass drums are a standard on power metal music. I think some other youtuber breaks down the meters with a sort of real time "beat box" performance, to something like 106 meter changes throughout the song (correct me if im wrong). Will most definedly follow your channel :)

  • @eteyrarpg
    @eteyrarpg 3 роки тому

    Hello! I'm so happy I discovered your channel! Competent people talking about music are such an enrichment for humanity (and for my poor understanding of music).
    Would be awesome to hear your thoughts about Blind Guardian (maybe Wheel of time)!

  • @tipusage
    @tipusage 3 роки тому +16

    “I went to a G3 concert, I think Satriani was there.” Haha.

  • @Yes-gz9qs
    @Yes-gz9qs 3 роки тому +7

    HAHA! Taking the double bass onslaught out of heavy metal music would be like telling Beethoven only to write in 4\4 time.

    • @marcossidoruk8033
      @marcossidoruk8033 3 роки тому

      Well he wrote most of the time in 4/4 and 3/4, but mostly in 4/4

  • @Despond
    @Despond 2 роки тому

    I love your drummers jabs about the double bass lol!

  • @ZackMorse
    @ZackMorse 3 роки тому

    One of my favorite DT tracks. Good choice! Just in case no one else mentioned it (sorry if they did) - The album the original version is on is a concept album set partially in 1928, thus the ragtime part ... that cold ending goes into a ballad on the LP. Going to suggest Epica’s Unleashed (from their 10th anniversary show) for a cool metal / orchestra / choir performance too (although it is no where near this complicated of a piece!)

  • @jake.mp3823
    @jake.mp3823 5 місяців тому +3

    9:03 dude i love this guy but when he said this it kind of took me out of the mindset that he is a very smart appreciator of all music. I understand if you don't like the double bass, but for you to say this and not even comment on everything else he (one of the greatest drummers of all time) is doing just displays that you don't really appreciate the sheer talent and complexity of mangini (and portnoy). I mean really you literally said this and its widely known one of the most complex songs for drumming of all time

  • @dagoelius
    @dagoelius Рік тому +3

    Prodigy keyboardist Jordan Rudess is an absolute monster on the guitar as well.

  • @lakejizzio7777
    @lakejizzio7777 3 роки тому

    I loved this reaction so much.

  • @robertchristian9361
    @robertchristian9361 2 роки тому

    I love to revisit these reaction videos🤘Great job by the way. The double kick drum was a tough one 🤔Try Bangkok and Fire Garden Suite from Steve Vai studio version. A two part song. Side note Mike Mangini on drums. And also there is a live version

  • @Arnoldnesis
    @Arnoldnesis 3 роки тому +3

    Woooo!!! Dream theater!! Would LOVE for you to do "Of Bird and Cage: Burning the Past - live @GameON"

  • @mcbaltz
    @mcbaltz 3 роки тому +8

    "It's like a hammer"... Hmmm... That's the idea, Sherlock. Hehehehe

  • @Ifyernotawakeyet
    @Ifyernotawakeyet 3 роки тому

    Always someone to recommend your next DT react. I am no different. Illumination Theory or Count of Tuscany. Will fill your cup!

  • @idea_music
    @idea_music 3 роки тому

    very gracious and astute analysis , cheers

  • @BrianButton
    @BrianButton 3 роки тому +19

    This piece is part of a much longer concept album, Scenes from a Memory. Dance of Eternity is not a dance, it’s a seduction and sex between two of the main characters, a throwback to a line in Metropolis Part 1: The Miracle and the Seeker about love being the dance of eternity. Highly recommended to listen to that song!

    • @atlanteean
      @atlanteean 3 роки тому +1

      yes, definitely he lacks the context of the song

    • @increase9896
      @increase9896 3 роки тому

      what the fuck did i just read?

    • @ijustchangedmyname
      @ijustchangedmyname 3 роки тому +5

      @@increase9896 Prog fans nerding out

  • @scottguitar28
    @scottguitar28 3 роки тому +4

    Regarding the “dance” name, if you put it in the context of the concept album that it’s a part of, it makes sense in a tongue-in-cheek way.

  • @memomariscal
    @memomariscal 3 роки тому

    Hi, Doug came to your channel for the Iron Maiden stayed for the great commentary and insight. Good stuff keep it up! If I may suggest: Rush - La Villa Strangiato

  • @bedrosdil1200
    @bedrosdil1200 8 місяців тому +1

    This was the first piece of DT that I heard in 2007 from Live from Budokon Album. I am a musician, I have played classical paino for 50+ years. I was looking at this and kept saying this is not possible... Not humanly possible... It was the most amazing thing I had ever seen or listened.

  • @egodreas
    @egodreas 3 роки тому +5

    I think the perfect follow-up to this reaction would be Babymetal's "Tales of the Destinies". It's an explicit Dream Theater homage, clearly inspired by "Dance of Eternity". It took almost 3 years to write and has only been performed live once. The story goes that it at one time had 109 time signature changes, just to top "Dance of Eternity" by 1, although that is not true for the final result. Especially since it ended up being split up into two tracks ("Tales of the Destinies" and "The One"), with the latter being a tribute to the fans, and much less interesting musically.
    I would have recommended you watch the live performance of "Tales of the Destinies" (from the Tokyo Dome, in 2016) if it hadn't been for the fact that it's not allowed on UA-cam. Even if you should happen to find a version, your video is likely to get blocked. Also, the recording of that show does not focus enough on the musicians, but tends to stay on the leading girls at all times. This makes sense for most of their songs, considering all the choreography and showmanship on display, but in this particular case the editor really dropped the ball. So I guess you would have to go with the studio version:
    ua-cam.com/video/sAVRqCZYJW8/v-deo.html
    Some poor guy has even gone through the trouble of writing out the sheet music for it, which is fun to see:
    ua-cam.com/video/Wcicu6o8lrU/v-deo.html
    I've noticed that you haven't actually done any Babymetal reactions at all on your channel yet, so maybe it's about time. They certainly have many songs that are better than "Tales of the Destinies", but it makes for a good choice considering you just heard "Dance of Eternity". No matter if you like them or not, it's sure to get you a lot of views!

  • @erikmaronde2244
    @erikmaronde2244 3 роки тому +3

    I still think you should do some Devin Townsend. Maybe "Genesis" from his latest studio album "Empath" which has an official video.

  • @ralmslb
    @ralmslb 3 місяці тому +1

    7:20 That is incorrect, the iPad is not controlling any mixer.
    Jordan Rudess uses his iPad as an instrument, where he plays and does more crazy effects.
    One of the apps he uses, is one that he created called GeoShred.

  • @bornheim1974
    @bornheim1974 3 роки тому

    That was a cool video. I'm really happy that I discovered your channel. How about reacting to Between The Buried And Me or maybe Bent Knee?

  • @renatomaschettodesa729
    @renatomaschettodesa729 3 роки тому +5

    The iPad works as an instrument for Jordan, he uses soft synths developed by himself. This song doesn’t feature it in use. You need to get to songs like Shattered Fortress and others, where he switches between the Kronos, the Roli, iPad, etc.

    • @metaloreo8423
      @metaloreo8423 3 роки тому

      Wow that’s cool I never knew that

    • @renatomaschettodesa729
      @renatomaschettodesa729 3 роки тому +1

      @@metaloreo8423 check here, for example, in Breaking all Illusions, at 6:40
      ua-cam.com/video/-0M21LUg_9E/v-deo.html

  • @sarasutcg
    @sarasutcg 4 місяці тому +4

    Huge respect to the conductor also - conducting an Orchester with that many time signatures is hell of a task!

  • @sabin97
    @sabin97 3 роки тому

    dream theater often has virtuosic riffs where the bass and guitar, or keyboard and guitar or all 3 play in unison. and it's always awesome.
    i wish i had good enough bass skills to be able to play a dream theater song.
    been working on under peruvian skies for a while, and the intro to the glass prison.

  • @philipturner6279
    @philipturner6279 2 роки тому

    It ends abruptly and goes right to the last song. I appreciate your commentary. I've seen them six times.