I like the idea that his space crew crashed before him, the whole time he thought they were there waiting for him to pick him up but that wasn't the case.
I think he was brought in after someone left and this is his most.... workmanlike film to me. It's not his style but feels like he was just used to finishing it and get it ready for release.
Even if this movie wasn't as good as the 1968 film, it at least had its own unique twist instead of just refusing the "Earth all along" twist from the original. The planet is indeed alien, but the ape civilisation only exists because he indirectly created it.
Geez a prequel showing them stsrt out would have been so awesome iliked this alot when i was little it gotbme to look at the old ones a little . Gonna watch them all on Hulu while they are there
Mark Wahlberg’s acting in this movie was terrible lol even as a lil kid I could tell smh, but I guess its not like the script was that great either. Still the makeup for this movie is amazing top notch
Basically when they enter the wormhole, they come out in different order. The original order of entrace was Pericles, Leo and the Oberon. But the arrival to planet goes Oberon, Leo and finally Peracles. That’s why the ship is in ruins, it arrived thousands of years in the past, Leo arrives to the present and Pericles to the future (a couple of days basically) there’s a scene where General Thade finds Leo’s ship. So my guess is that after Leo left using Peracles’ ship, Thade soon followed and came out first in the distant past to change history to Ape’s image, soon followed by Leo. The statue of Apebraham Lincoln (lol) is not Thade himself but rather a descendant with the same name (he ensured that his future generations had the same name)
I don't care what anyone says but I genuinely like this film and think it's pretty good watch... Yes Wahlberg isn't particularly good but I was never bored.
No matter how many times I watch this movie, it gives me goosebumps🤯the power of religion and ignorance, this movie is a portrait of the beginning of human civilizations from a 3rd person perspective, all the misunderstandings and belief beyond reason
I can’t believe that this film’s ending is actually the ending in the book! It was so bad I thought it could only have possibly been thought up in Hollywood.
I figured it was because he was dealing with the baggage of being a stranger in a strange land. Like that stuff is heavy. And than learning he was responsible for everything, heavier still. Also not like that place had A/C. Must be hot as Hell in the desert.
This is updated from the book where we learn what happened through a female human patient telling us an "ancestral memory" through different voices rather than a recording.
This is the only movie Helena Bonham Carter actually looked attractive. Seriously she does look better in the monkey get up. I remember when I first saw this movie in the theater I fell in love with her character. Must have been how she talked.
@@ragingjaguarknight86 lol. I think I remember hearing about that back then. She was very nurturing. I think her voice was sexy too lol. I liked her better than the blonde human lol.
@@Catman1798 Yup. Helena has a sexy accent. ;) And that Daena chick was conventionally attractive for sure, but I could definitely say that Ari had a better head on her shoulders. I was rooting for Ari and Leo to end up together, especially at the end when she lets him know how she feels about him on the downlow. They also share a rather passionate kiss too and you see Ari give Leo the "come hither look". Oh well, the road not taken. v_v
I seem to recall Tim Burton saying something like the first time he met Helena he told her "I had to cast you right away because you're the first person I imagined in the ape make up". They started dating shortly after. Lmao
@@jorgecabezas1966 there where at least a few thousand people on that ship at the begining of the film. After it crashed landed and the apes they had rebeled and killed most of the surivors. A few hundred would have run off into the planet during the ape rebel. A few hundred humans is all you need to start over.
I never understood where the humans in this film came from if the planet they landed on was uncharted. Unless they landed on a different timeline on earth like he did at the ending.
You didn't understand the time travel plot point of the film. The electromagnetic space storm that Oberon crew was investigating caused the people entering it to travel in time, using the "first in, last out" principle. Pericles was first in, so he came out last. A few minutes later, Wahlberg goes in, and he comes out second to last, weeks before Pericles. Finally, the Oberon accidentally enters the storm, days after Wahlberg and they come out first, thousands of years before Wahlberg and Pericles made it out.
The apes being descendants of the ones the ship brought I can believe, thousands of years of breeding could create a decent sized population. The humans on the ship (assuming the apes let some of them live) would not have had the numbers to create such a population. Even if the ship had as many as 500 survivors, they would inbreed themselves into extinction only after a few centuries. The original movie worked because it was earth in the distant future. There were plenty of Apes and humans in their respected gene pools to maintain their populations.
Scientists have studied the concept of what a minimum viable population (i.e., the minimum number required to allow a species to continue) would be. An MVP of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates. Let me know if you want the source.
I like the fact that he landed on an uninhabited planet and Leo having that hope the whole of going back to Earth and then realising Earth has been ruined because of General Thade revolution.
Let me explain better , this movie and the Andy serkis prequels and the original 1960s movies are all connected, while mark walbarg is traveling through the wormhole , Caesar is on the Golden Gate Bridge 🌉 leading the revolution back on earth 🌍 . Mark is not on earth but on another planet , when his crew went into the warm hole 🕳️ to rescue him , he went into two wormholes which actually sent him further through time then his friends , his friends lands on the planet which and the apes 🦍 start the rebellion and kill most of the scientists but some mange to escape and the ones that do are all the ancestors of the humans that we see in this movie and all of the apes are all the descendants of the apes 🦧 that led the rebellion . When mark makes it backs to earth 🌍. He actually does go back in time but not to his time , he actually goes a little far into the future , probably after the events of the new movie kingdom of the planet of the apes (2024) . The reason I say that he travels after the events of those movies is because the ceaser trilogy for the apes is actually their version of the Stone Age , while kingdom of the planet of the apes will probably be the Bronze Age of the apes . When mark does make it back , we see the apes riding vehicles 🚗 and stuff .
That's true if he had never left his crew to save his chimp, none of this would of happened. His choice to go against his commander caused them to look for him and the storm escalated the evolution of the apes and helped the apes to become self aware of the experiments done to them and Semos wanted to fight back and then created Thade who despised Leo and followed him back to Earth which he took over with the apes.
Do not reply to this comment with swear words I mean it I hate swear words and don’t reply to this comment with a rude or terrible reply either if someone doesn’t like then don’t reply at all. It’s not too late for a sequel. They could even call it escape from the planet of the apes. That's the original title from the 3rd movie.
I like the idea that his space crew crashed before him, the whole time he thought they were there waiting for him to pick him up but that wasn't the case.
Tim Burton directed this movie in 2001 I kind of refused to believe that, isn't gothic or strange enough.
It’s so unBurton like! Lol
I think he was brought in after someone left and this is his most.... workmanlike film to me. It's not his style but feels like he was just used to finishing it and get it ready for release.
The ape village and everything there feels very burton
This movie inspired me to start working out, I was a wee lad back then, Marky Mark's shoulders are freaking huge in this one.
Even if this movie wasn't as good as the 1968 film, it at least had its own unique twist instead of just refusing the "Earth all along" twist from the original. The planet is indeed alien, but the ape civilisation only exists because he indirectly created it.
Indeed. The movie doesn't come close to the Originals. But at least they came up with their own, good plot twist.
@@Teufer2close to the book
Geez a prequel showing them stsrt out would have been so awesome iliked this alot when i was little it gotbme to look at the old ones a little . Gonna watch them all on Hulu while they are there
Paul Giamatti is so good in this film.
Tim Roth, Paul Giamatti and Michael Clarke Duncan are the MVPs of the film.
Also, can we have one movie with Mark Wahlberg where he’s not consistently out of breath for 90 minutes?
Asthma
The Departed
The big hit.
Mark Wahlberg's nostrils have more screen time than he does.
Mark Wahlberg’s acting in this movie was terrible lol even as a lil kid I could tell smh, but I guess its not like the script was that great either. Still the makeup for this movie is amazing top notch
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Basically when they enter the wormhole, they come out in different order. The original order of entrace was Pericles, Leo and the Oberon. But the arrival to planet goes Oberon, Leo and finally Peracles. That’s why the ship is in ruins, it arrived thousands of years in the past, Leo arrives to the present and Pericles to the future (a couple of days basically) there’s a scene where General Thade finds Leo’s ship. So my guess is that after Leo left using Peracles’ ship, Thade soon followed and came out first in the distant past to change history to Ape’s image, soon followed by Leo. The statue of Apebraham Lincoln (lol) is not Thade himself but rather a descendant with the same name (he ensured that his future generations had the same name)
I can't find that scene where Thade takes a spaceship
@@theenforcer3667 is the scene where he and two soldiers find it and he kills them
@@CoffeeManiac20 This spaceship was broken after the emergency landing and how did Thade manage to escape ?
I don't care what anyone says but I genuinely like this film and think it's pretty good watch... Yes Wahlberg isn't particularly good but I was never bored.
No matter how many times I watch this movie, it gives me goosebumps🤯the power of religion and ignorance, this movie is a portrait of the beginning of human civilizations from a 3rd person perspective, all the misunderstandings and belief beyond reason
False religion, as worshiping a ruler as a God like the ancient Egyptians and the Romans.
Welcome to Democrat voter ignorance
@@daguroswaldson257all religeon, whatever the deity is, is false in as far as it is manufactured by man.
@@sbaldwin21pfft yea and I’m sure that the whole universe was manufactured by men too.
@@SwornReaper of course not, but just because we don’t have an understanding yet doesn’t mean we should fill the knowledge gap with fairy tails.
I can’t believe that this film’s ending is actually the ending in the book! It was so bad I thought it could only have possibly been thought up in Hollywood.
that's a very strong chair. it last for thousand year
exactly what one would expect from great and superior technology.
Better than the 90% CGI one's made afterwards!
❤😢❤ i love this movie and i miss it , one of the best movies ever
Why is Mark always out of breath
He has asthma
😂😂😂 4real
I figured it was because he was dealing with the baggage of being a stranger in a strange land. Like that stuff is heavy. And than learning he was responsible for everything, heavier still. Also not like that place had A/C. Must be hot as Hell in the desert.
This is updated from the book where we learn what happened through a female human patient telling us an "ancestral memory" through different voices rather than a recording.
Mark walhberg is a great actor this is on Hulu right now love he breathes every time he’s acting another great movie is the gambler on Amazon prime
Mark Wahlberg honestly looks like a little boy trying to play astronaut. He should've grown some type of beard to make him look a little seasoned.
I remember being so excited to go watch this, and being so disappointed.
I don't think this movie is as bad as people say, it's ok but not what I thought it would be.
I think it's underrated tbh, it has some good stuff in it in my opinion General Thade is a cool villain.
J’espère un jour voir la suite
I am probably the only person on earth who thought this movie was great, watched it several times too.
And I dont care what the critics think
You're not the only one.
Fantabulous
This is the only movie Helena Bonham Carter actually looked attractive. Seriously she does look better in the monkey get up. I remember when I first saw this movie in the theater I fell in love with her character. Must have been how she talked.
You're onto something, originally Ari was supposed to be Leo's romantic interest in the movie but the studio told Tim Burton "no".
@@ragingjaguarknight86 lol. I think I remember hearing about that back then. She was very nurturing. I think her voice was sexy too lol. I liked her better than the blonde human lol.
@@Catman1798 Yup. Helena has a sexy accent. ;) And that Daena chick was conventionally attractive for sure, but I could definitely say that Ari had a better head on her shoulders. I was rooting for Ari and Leo to end up together, especially at the end when she lets him know how she feels about him on the downlow. They also share a rather passionate kiss too and you see Ari give Leo the "come hither look". Oh well, the road not taken. v_v
I seem to recall Tim Burton saying something like the first time he met Helena he told her "I had to cast you right away because you're the first person I imagined in the ape make up". They started dating shortly after. Lmao
That's because you didn't see her in Lone Ranger
Makeup artist, Rick Baker do won Best classic Make-up effects in 2001 before he retired in 2015.
So the humans here are the descendants of the ship's crew?
Correct.
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How many of them survived, and how did they repopulate the planet?
@@jorgecabezas1966 there where at least a few thousand people on that ship at the begining of the film. After it crashed landed and the apes they had rebeled and killed most of the surivors. A few hundred would have run off into the planet during the ape rebel.
A few hundred humans is all you need to start over.
@@jorgecabezas1966 does there was any female members in that ship 🤔
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Yes there was, but the question is: ¿how many were?
Regardless what happens he still gets shafted right at the end anyways lol
I liked this movie 🤷🏻♂️
I never understood where the humans in this film came from if the planet they landed on was uncharted. Unless they landed on a different timeline on earth like he did at the ending.
You didn't understand the time travel plot point of the film. The electromagnetic space storm that Oberon crew was investigating caused the people entering it to travel in time, using the "first in, last out" principle. Pericles was first in, so he came out last. A few minutes later, Wahlberg goes in, and he comes out second to last, weeks before Pericles. Finally, the Oberon accidentally enters the storm, days after Wahlberg and they come out first, thousands of years before Wahlberg and Pericles made it out.
The apes being descendants of the ones the ship brought I can believe, thousands of years of breeding could create a decent sized population. The humans on the ship (assuming the apes let some of them live) would not have had the numbers to create such a population. Even if the ship had as many as 500 survivors, they would inbreed themselves into extinction only after a few centuries.
The original movie worked because it was earth in the distant future. There were plenty of Apes and humans in their respected gene pools to maintain their populations.
I could make a vague argument about the sentinilese tribe in the Indian Ocean. They seem to be doing pretty well.
Scientists have studied the concept of what a minimum viable population (i.e., the minimum number required to allow a species to continue) would be. An MVP of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates. Let me know if you want the source.
I like the fact that he landed on an uninhabited planet and Leo having that hope the whole of going back to Earth and then realising Earth has been ruined because of General Thade revolution.
Hard to believe Estella Warren is 45 now.
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Let me explain better , this movie and the Andy serkis prequels and the original 1960s movies are all connected, while mark walbarg is traveling through the wormhole , Caesar is on the Golden Gate Bridge 🌉 leading the revolution back on earth 🌍 . Mark is not on earth but on another planet , when his crew went into the warm hole 🕳️ to rescue him , he went into two wormholes which actually sent him further through time then his friends , his friends lands on the planet which and the apes 🦍 start the rebellion and kill most of the scientists but some mange to escape and the ones that do are all the ancestors of the humans that we see in this movie and all of the apes are all the descendants of the apes 🦧 that led the rebellion . When mark makes it backs to earth 🌍. He actually does go back in time but not to his time , he actually goes a little far into the future , probably after the events of the new movie kingdom of the planet of the apes (2024) . The reason I say that he travels after the events of those movies is because the ceaser trilogy for the apes is actually their version of the Stone Age , while kingdom of the planet of the apes will probably be the Bronze Age of the apes . When mark does make it back , we see the apes riding vehicles 🚗 and stuff .
It’s not too late for a sequel. They could even call it escape from the planet of the apes. That's the original title from the 3rd movie.
Are you looking forward to the new movie? I know I am!
@@erickvoshel1 yep
This movie is not connected to any of the other films.
This movie isn’t connected, the tech is too advanced whereas the serkis films where based on reality
Holt crap I didn’t know Janet Jackson was in this movie !
Always got that vibe too
That would be horrible if you realized you were the cause of the fall of humanity
That's true if he had never left his crew to save his chimp, none of this would of happened. His choice to go against his commander caused them to look for him and the storm escalated the evolution of the apes and helped the apes to become self aware of the experiments done to them and Semos wanted to fight back and then created Thade who despised Leo and followed him back to Earth which he took over with the apes.
WHAT? Nooooo.
Do not reply to this comment with swear words I mean it I hate swear words and don’t reply to this comment with a rude or terrible reply either if someone doesn’t like then don’t reply at all. It’s not too late for a sequel. They could even call it escape from the planet of the apes. That's the original title from the 3rd movie.
It would be tough to make a sequel given it was reboot in 2011
@@thegreyavenger2 I still want a sequel.
@@thegreyavenger2 And you know if Tim Burton is too stubborn to do a sequel then maybe somebody else should do it like Peter Jackson.
@@KingBobaFett434 still will be tough for a sequel since kingdom of the planet of the apes is coming out.
@@thegreyavenger2 Let’s see how it turns out if it’s terrible than hopefully they’ll work on a sequel to Mark’s planet of the apes movie.
This ship crash landing thousand of years
I’ve always wondered, if these humans are on another planet how did they learn to speak English? Let alone an American accent English?
They are descendants of the ship's crew so english was passed down many generations
English is the universal language! In every universe!😊😅😂
Gee, why no sequel?
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Dawn of the planet of the apes
Mark Walhberg spends more time breathing on set then he does acting
The human characters ruin this movie.
Estella Warren is gorgeous and attractive tho
I saw this in the theater when it first came out….. man it sucked!
The chick was hot though
Such a bad version.
How boring can an actor be in just five seconds?
Soy gay 😅
Good for you!
We can tell wei
If Hollywood would exclusively use tim Burton for everything then no movies would be shitty.
They would stagnate, and in effect, they probably wouldn't let him have creative control
Bad movie
Why is he always out of breath?