Ford F450 & the NEW Gen-Y Gooseneck // The PERFECT Combo! 💪
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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In today's video, we're taking our RV living experience to the next level by upgrading our towing setup. It's an exciting milestone as we're using a Ford F450 for the first time and trying out the Gen-Y Gooseneck hitch. We've heard fantastic reviews about both, and now it's our turn to put them to the test. Huge thanks to @GENYHITCH for sending us their latest gooseneck hitch! This video documents the process of removing our old fifth wheel hitch, preparing the area, and installing the new hitch. While it's a relatively straightforward upgrade, it's important to note that it does require at least two people for safety, so please seek assistance and don't attempt it alone. Once the new hitch is installed, we're adding the break-away switch and conducting testing. Join us as we experience this new combination for the first time. Spoiler alert... we absolutely loved it! 😍
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Going on 3 years with our Gen-Y gooseneck, almost 30k miles towing with it. Smooth ride, no chucking, easy to hookup/disconnect and no dang hitch in the bed of the truck. Love your new setup! So happy for you guys 🤍
Thank you so much!
You will love the tow experience. We have run a Reese Goosebox on our Reflection for a couple years and would never go back. GenY should be a cut above but 2 years back Lippert had not accepted them to not void the warranty. Towing is much smoother and solid feeling not to mention we love hookup and having our bed free! Happy and safe travels!
Awesome 😎 thank you for the info, I love the Ford Super Duty truck all F 2 to 4
No problem!
Wow, nice chevy dually truck! I have always admired those side steps in every side of the vehicle.
......Oh, I mean Ford dually truck!😉
Haha! I do like the steps!
We installed the Gen Y on our GD 397TH. It has about 50k miles on it. I love it. Pulls smooth, soaks up a bunch of bumps. I wouldn’t say it’s “better” than some of the other premium offerings when it comes to being smooth, but it’s certainly as good as all of them and the other benefits blow the other connectors out of the water.
I cannot imagine why an R.V. manufacturer wouldn’t use these or other gooseneck connections exclusively. Having full access to our bed without messing with a fifth wheel hitch has been amazing.
I personally won’t own another RV without a Gen Y gooseneck connection.
Many people will point out the warranty issues from the R.V. manufacturers when switching to the Gen Y. Well, they don’t stand behind the warranty with their fifth wheel heads either so….. Maybe with the Gen Y you won’t need the warranty.
We've had our Gen Y for a couple of years. It is outstanding! So nice to watch the nose of the fifth wheel move up and down and not feel the movement transferred to the truck.
We agree!
Have a gen y also. As a precaution to make sure it’s latched I always drop it on the ball till it locks and the lift my Alliance back up to ensure it’s locked on.
Sounds like a great tip! Thanks!
We love our Gen-Y hitch, we have one for our GD Reflection 337RLS and have towed over 1000 miles and it’s been awesome virtually no chucking! Enjoy!!
Very nice- congrats- did you confirm with your
Rv. Manufacturer that they confirm that that hitch will not change your RV specs?
You should put a little dab of good grease on the ball regardless of what others say. It'll help eliminate grinding noise and help with coupling release.
Thanks for the tips! All new to us. 🙂
We've had our going on 2 years. Love it.
That's awesome!
Very nice truck and setup, enjoy the journey!
Thanks, you too!
They look good together!
I call it the old man step too.
We usually torque the nuts not the bolts, when you can. Just a thought, did you think about checking the height first before you torque it.
Question:
I have a 2024 F350, do you notice that when in tow mode and you are using CarPlay with the map on and driving with a trailer that both the “Diesel and General” pages blank out?
So:
-While towing (this is only while going down the road)
-using CarPlay maps to a location
-in tow/haul mode
-I loose both the diesel and general pages.
If I flip back to normal driving both appear no problem.
Great looking truck! I love the power from 6.7 HO. I have 4,400 miles. It’s a beast, towing a Brinkley Z3610 19,000 loaded! Good idea is to change your oil at 1,000 miles incase any initial debris is in there. I found that Shaffers is that oil that many diesel guys recommend.
Seemed like in some of JD's videos the GEN Y was not a Lippert approved gooseneck hitch. Is the 5th Gen approved by Lippert?
You need one of those airbag gooseneck attachments. Its night and day and you cant even tell that your connected to a trailer when hitting bumps.
Nice video. Did you notice you clicked on fifth wheel on the trailer set up and gooseneck was right above it?
I did as I was editing... haha - old habits die hard. Thanks! 😂
Glad things went well on your new Gen-y hitch, are you worried about frame flex on your rig?
Nope, I think we are good to go! 😊
Great video. I am following as I am definitely thinking about the Gen-Y gooseneck before our summer hitch. So will be looking for your opinion before purchasing. Great job!
We will definitely be doing a follow up on it!
I always buy a long bed truck to pull my 5th wheel because I want my goose or fithwheel hitch because I want the hitch straight up and down not where it is extended out a foot or more is not good and the thing a lot of these frame flex is worse. My hitch is straight up and down and not stretched out and the ride and handling is sweet .
I saw a video a couple weeks ago from i believe Grand Design talking about frame flex and they said that their frames are specifically made for the hitch that comes with the 5th wheel so i'm curious if this will cause you any problems?
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Is the Gen Y hitch Approved by grand design
No will void the warranty. The Reese goosebox is the only approved gooseneck style pin box. They say they tested it to meet standards. But Reese is owned by lillert(frame mfg) so I think they are just trying to control the market
@1strangesdventure, Did you guys have any reservations swapping to the Gen Y knowing if there are any problems Lippert may not cover it?
It was definitely a consideration and we'll have to deal with that should anything come up. However, this has made an amazing difference. From the smoothness to having our full truck bed has made it worth it, IMO. With the amount of data that is out there, I hope that Gen-Y is certified for Lippert frames soon.
We need new things for the truck, she a good wife, lol, I love to see new mods, now I like that it is made in America I might have to look into one myself I can't wait to get your reviews on it, man your setup look good together.
The best!!!
@@1StrangeAdventure Awesome, the bible said that whosoever findeth a wife findeth a good thing my wife and I have been marry since 1979 and still going strong, l look forward on seeing more of your videos.
One thing you have to do is check with the trailer manufacturer if the goose hitch is capable with your trailer or goth wheel that may void your warranty so check first and get it in writing.
Their warranties expire so fast it almost doesn’t matter and even if it’s not expired they don’t stand behind their warranties anyways.
nice truck! I have a question about hooking up the safety chains. We have a RAM 3500 Limited and already switched to the GenY. Love having the bed of my truck back! We've been looking at switching to the Ford F450 and noticed that the Ford puck system is a little different than the RAM and it seems like it would be difficult to hook up the safety chains? I can reach the anchors from the rear of my RAM and was concerned that I might have to crawl in the bed of the truck to hook/unhook them on the Ford. LMK -Thanks!
Great question and yes, they are different. Coming from a RAM to the Ford, I noticed the same. The Ford has a much smaller footprint for the puck system than the RAM. If I had a traditional 5th wheel hitch, that would be great bc it would equate to more bed space. But with chains, it is difficult to reach them from the back side. Someone with long arms may be able to get it but I can't. I either have to get on the tailgate (which those side steps come in handy) or stand on the wheel. Granted, I'm not a tall guy so it may be easier for others. Most of the time, I have my son crawl up there or I stand on the side step and tire and reach over. One of those steps that hang on the tires would come in handy.
Do they approve the gen-y for the 5th wheel ?
Great timely video !!! We just had our new rig upgraded at MORryde with IS and we also decided to have a GEN Y hitch installed at a shop up there. Drove about 600 miles back down to Tennessee with no issues. Did have less chucking but the roads were so potholed not sure how much better the ride was. Did you get the BMW ball set? We didn’t get any shirts 😮. So there is not a need to do a pull test anymore right?
We still do the pull test, just to be sure. I bet the IS and Gen Y make for a great combination! We had the B&W ball set, but have since swapped it out for a taller ball so we could have a bit more clearance.
Any concern w high load height of trailer
5th wheel is better for sway
Doesn't slide either
But looks reallly goid
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
On the chain, it needs to rest in the longer part, that's why it looks like a cross, that is where the link is placed so it does not go in and out. When you guys were done, it looked like the link was resting in the pull through spot and not the locking spot.
Yep, good catch. We moved them into place before we left. Thanks!
That bed clearance @ 22:46 was a little too much for my liking. B&W has a Hi-Rise ball for an extra inch of clearance. Part Number: GNXA2050.
Love the goosebox setup since you get your freakin' bed back!!! No more hitch space thank goodness!
So where is the list of approved pin boxes/hitches?
Gen-Y and LCI are currently in discussions. Check out the video they made with Brinkley. Lots of great data. Also, we encourage you to speak with your RV manufacturer and make an informed decision that works for you. ☺️
Is it approved by GD?
Love seeing the gen y box rolling out with 2 big fork holes in it, lol. I assume everything inside was okay?
I was concerned as well but checked and everything was good. Phew 😮💨
Great video and the music is not obnoxious like so many others on UA-cam.
You two have great chemistry on camera.
Looking forward to seeing your adventures
Thank you so much! We appreciate the feedback!
I would be concerned about switching from the factory fifth wheel hitch to the Gen-Y gooseneck, since it's not approved by Lippert. Especially with all of the issues people are having with broken frames, this type of hitch will make frame damage more likely because of the extra stress and twist it puts on the frame. In fact, you can see this torsion occur in your video, at 20:39 as the weight is transferred to the hitch, you can see the rear of the hitch dropping down, thus putting more tension on the back of the frame mount than the front, causing the frame to twist. I don't notice that with our factory fifth wheel hitch, the load appears to be applied much more vertically.
What you are seeing is not the frame flexing, it's the design of the hitch. The hitch has torsion built into it which allows the hitch to absorb way more impact than the standard hitch. Brinkley has done extensive research on this hitch as they partnered with Gen-Y and hired independent data engineers to conduct their tests. We appreciate the concern but are enjoying our new hitch.
@@1StrangeAdventure Cool, I certainly hope it works out long term for you and doesn't damage your frame. Personally, I wouldn't install it on mine unless and until Lippert approved it. As the frame manufacturer, Lippert has the best understanding of the stresses the frame can and cannot take.
You entered fifth wheel instead of gooseneck?
How’s the Ford F450 on fuel ⛽️ towing n no trailer vs the Ram truck
The RAM had slightly better fuel mileage. The F450 is averaging around 14.5MPG unloaded.
You’ve got a little break-in on her before you compare… fresh engine. All the various UA-cams have indicated SD 6.7 does better on fuel efficiency. Congrats on the new F450, what a Beauty. Looking forward what 8 ft tonneau cover, not as many options as shorter boxes.
@@1StrangeAdventureloaded with loaded trailer more like 8-9mpg with high output and the def usage is insane compared to 2022 or older trust me I own one
You should not grease your gooseneck ball. The only thing that might need a very little lube is the release if it is sticking. the ball and gooseneck is suppose to have friction to prevent sway also with give you better control with backing. Basically the same idea for your Reese hitch ball for towing a trailer. Just my 2 cents. Love the videos!
Didn't know that! We always had grease on the ball for a normal trailer. I'll look into this for sure!
Grease the ball, hmm I'm a Comercial driver, drove 15 years pulling a gooseneck trailer, 26,000 lbs, you don't grease it, just replace your ball and hitch, all the time, it grinds the metal,
Think about. Driving a semi with fifthwheel plate, had to grease the plate, ever 30 days, basically, when dry, the plate and trailer will grind together, just imagine, on a slick road, you be one long unit, with no pivot, on the hitch, just go straight, or lock in a turn,, hmm
Reese hitch ball with tounge pull, only 1 thousand pounds on it, fifthwheel has 3 thousand or more,
Never seen a ryobi/f450 limited guy before
That new hitch you said was beefy but what it’s attached to is not beefy.
It’s nice to do your own work and save sum money but if a problem they will always ask who installed it and when you say you did they play off that to cause you Grief so for liability have your dealer install it and if any thing goes wrong it’s all on the dealer not you because you did not go to school to install that new hitch. But after all that I love that hitch it’s one of the best and maybe the best .
What were the torque specs?
There are people like these two have so much money that they don't know what to spend it on and I'm here thinking how I'm going to pay my debts.lol 😂😂😂
Thanks for watching!
I’ll keep my B&W hitch
Looks like a ripe suspect for frame failure. No mention or concern? Especially with GenY voiding warranty.
Also curious why not goosebox with shocks and airbag?
There isn’t a goose box that has proper weight ratings outside of Gen Y.
Yup. Goosebox is up to 20k. Gen Y is up to 30k
Congratulations on your f450.if you don’t mind me asking what do you guys do for work
I work for a bank and Cindy owns a bookkeeping business for other small businesses. In addition we manage our social media brand. 3 jobs…😫
@@1StrangeAdventure you guys have done very well ,congratulations I’m so jealous
Thank you! Never a dull moment. ☺️
So is the Gen Y approved by Grand Design? I did see the video about them saying that if it’s not then your warranty will be kicked to the curb 😢. I’ve been watching so many videos on Fram flex I’ve gone nuts. lol 😂
When you configured the new trailer type you chose fifth wheel instead of goose neck, not sure if that makes any difference, just pointing it out!
I saw. Thanks for pointing that out.
Love your new F450. I have a 2015 F450 Platinum pulling my 44' Road Warrior Toyhauler. I just installed the Gen-Y Executive "Fifth Wheel" version pinbox because I already had the B&W Companion 25K hitch.
Would love to have gone with the Gen-Y Gooseneck but happened upon the Fifth Wheel version on FB Marketplace for one that was only used 4 times for $600! Couldn't pass it up for that price. Anxious to see your follow up with your new "combination"
Do you get chucking with that gen y? I’m on the fence about switching over but there is to many mixed reviews for me to make the switch
No more than a standard 5W hitch.
I use that step and I’m totally
Comfortable with you calling it “your old man step” we can’t just be jumping up in these big trucks like when we were younger!
Amen to that! 🤣
we put a Reese Gooseball on our fifth wheel
Hopefully, your 5th wheel frame holds up.
Yes, we agree!
Is the Jen y hitch approved by leopard frames ?
Spell check???
What gooseneck ball brand are you using?
B & W !
not enough height from bed to trailer beware
Just get taller ball
I have your unit, well the 397
That’s awesome!
If def is so good for the environment why not put it on all gas vehicles as well
Glad we have a motorhome.
We’ve considered it!
We have found the 40 foot Newmar behind the Wrangler 2 for if perfidy com bo for us.,, coming up 300k miles
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Glad we have a 2023 F450 and a 2024 Northern Lite 10-2 Truck Camper and pull our Wrangler. Perfect combo for us.
Sarah for TT? I must have watched an old video. I just sent an email to Joanna!?
Allwsys get lever ball not button ball. Button ball is real messyput white tape in middle of hitch and white tape on bed to line up fast
Do we need such big subtitles that we can't see what your doing
Subtitles are provided by UA-cam. You should be able to turn them off if they’re not needed.
@@1StrangeAdventure This is really weird. Only on this video do I get big Subtitles but not on any other videos. All your other videos are great and I haven't changed any settings. Has to be my computer. Anyway Great Video...
Allwsys get lever ball not button ball. Button ball is real messy
I think if you stop to buy gum your will be over your payload!!
LOL - we'll have to hold off on the gum then!
KUTGW
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Wow- thanks for letting me know! I’ll take a look
Don't forget your tickets to the gun show, Harold!!💪 Enjoy that sweet new hitch, guys. Welcome to the Gen-Y family.
HAHA- Thunder and lightning!
I had to put 2” blocks on my axels and you have to use new u bolts too because the guy who bought it new had a 2 wheel drive dullay and my 1 ton dullay is 4 wheel drive .
I have to give you a that a boy for getting a bigger truck one that will work with the truck and a tri axel trailer .
You put little grease on ball to slow wear just like all trailer balĺs
Love that gooseneck
Us too!