Kriss Defiance DMK22 Full Review
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Down the range with the Kriss Defiance DMK22! A popular rifle that filled a gap in the market for a full metal .22 AR under £1000, a few years on with a much larger selection of .22 AR15s available how does it stack up?
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Hi Calam. I have owned the Kriss DMK 22 LR for a couple of years now and initially watching your review, I would have agreed with you. However I have had the same issues you have mentioned in the beginning, but please be informed it’s all all about the feed ramp. The with failure to feed, failure to fire, and failure to extract. A simple mod is to polish to feed ramp to a mirror finish and boom, all said issues gone. I have owned this rifle for two years now and it’s an absolute gem with 100% reliability. This gun will cycle even copper 22. I can not fault it. I find your review given a little fettling a little un-just and if you want to meet me at blue field sports for a demo I’m happy to do so. Love the channel, Over to you??
I have the factory bolt catch in my kris. I can confirm 15-22 mags do work in the kris bolt holds open on last round and dose NOT need a special bolt catch for that. Or a chip mine works a 100 percent without any mods to the rifle with 15-22 mags
I have to say this i have had a kris now for around a year and bit. I have had no problems with it runs just as good as my 15-22. More accurate to. I ran cci mini mags cci standard and Sk match as my standard round. Used american eagle in it as well and no issues with the gun. I gladly let you test my rifle and see how reliable they can be. I have heard that the firing pin can be iffy so i changed that to a titanium one only upgrade i have done.
Where did you get the upgraded one?
after first 2 mags break in, i had no real problems with mine. after 500 rounds i had many FTEs but reason was dirty and gunked up extractor; i wanted to see how long it will go without malfunctions. cleaned it and last time shot 300 rounds of CCI standard velocity and did not have even one malfunction! also shot remington thunderbolt perfectly fine. all in all i am very very happy with mine and recommend it!
Found my defiance faultless 100 % reliable, accuracy matching 5.56 or 7.62mm at 100 m without the recoil.. even good out to 200m. Best .22 I've ever owned. , an have owned many
I’ve not had mine for that long and had the firing ping break plus feeding issues. Just yesterday I tried a bunch of different ammo though it and where CCI Minimag was jamming on feed, Winchesters did not - having a closer look at the head of the rounds, the Winchesters appeared to have very slightly more taper to them that did not get caught on the collar like the CCI did. It then ran through three mags absolutely flawlessly. Just an FYI for anyone out there with the same issue. Even after all that though, I still love it :-)
I like different rounds for different settings as most of you may and would recommend selling this rifle to someone you dislike that doesn’t have anger issues and picking up the Lantau SF immediately. It’s reliability ,structure and gear options are on point and if you just use you upper noodle ,have a bit of work done so your barrel options are again resurrected your on top of the mound. Great learning about the many options available there ups ,downs and remedies before a purchase, especially at a price like these carry for a .22. Certainly a blessing these folks do the research for those of us not globally known for our shooting to the point of having the frustratingly wonderful advantage of being sent products to quiz. I appreciate your hard work in the office and please keep it up . Would love to put any related products to the test of the SE US. It’s a different world than any other place. If it will pass our trials its a keeper. Mts to sea. Hurricane force rain to hurricane force winter blizzards. Dust to 100 0/0 humidity frozen to well in the triple digits all often in the same day . Keep your back to the sun and breeze in your face. Thank you. #Dyingtolive #outdooradventuresandproducttesting #NC
I bought a used kriss. Put 1000 rounds of CCI mini mag through it with no problems. Keep it clean and so far so good.
First 10k rounds was a dream, after that one ELEY squib at a match blew the bolt out. Nicely the RFD I bought it from changed out the bolt and it was back to great. If you use good ammo it will run easily but very cheap ammo will gunk it up 10x faster. The only thing left original on mine is the upper and lower. It's never failed me at a match but the base rifle nerds a good amount of work.
Wait... I BLEW THE BOLT OUT?
maintain..maintain. maintain.
@@elizabethdorchester5307 what
@@Daniellahehehe Hi its a old army saying. meaning clean the weapon . if need be ie weather wax the rounds . nice review
Firing pin in the kriss is a known issue and the extractor !! Wish I had know before hand... I've fitted new parts from valmont firearms and works perfect now !
Excellent review, I have used a Kriss defiance a few times but I haven’t come across these issues yet I know the firing pin is a bit of a known issue but not something I would consider replacing my m&p 15-22 with.
I replaced my 15-22 and not looked back since i think callum unfortunately got a lemmon or I'm just extremely lucky. Mine runs great and very accurate.
Can recommend the full metal Tippmann has never missed a beat several thousand rounds of CCI
Really appreciate your .22 rifle videos. I'm an Army office and in a state that restricts "assault rifles" so 22 semi rifles make good training adjuncts for our Soldiers. what would your top AR rifle .22 choices be today?
Just FYI, G36 rails fit those hole ctrs on the handguard. I bought some off Amazon for less than £10 per pair.
Are you gona start recommending the Tippmann m4 22 for a metal gun then? The buffer tube system and mag lead is key to their success.
No working buffer means that uses cmmg system? And then you can swap the stock for a monolithic or the one you fancy??
CMMG dedicated .22lr.Mine has been faultless with many different rounds. I only run subs now.
Never had a problem with mine, except with mini mag. Didn’t even feed, it loves everything else
Love it
That's very weird, usually it's the other way round.
@@EnglishShooting agreed, the gun shop were I bought the rifle said they were receiving feedback that those specific rounds were not chambering 50% of the time, every other type of round has been fine with little or no stoppages, that’s with both the Kriss 10 round mag and the standard S&W mag, not sure if it was a batch problem or a change in tolerance on the rounds.
First and foremost I just want to say that you make some really good videos secondly I was just standing by to hear you compare it to the M&P 15-22 and pleased to hear you say that is no comparison in other words how is salute you and what you're doing for the 22 platform and community keep up the good work I am a fan and I will continue watching you every time you post
Thank you for watching 🙂
Sticking with my 1522. The Kriss looks good but who wants so many reliability issues and paying far more? I just want to have fun and spend less. Having said that, I am experiencing annoying last round hold open issues with my 1522...but I suspect it is down to some rubbish ammo I have been using up. Now we can get back out there to shoot, I am testing other ammo.
100% agree with the review. I know someone at the club who’s buffer ‘thing’ cracked after a year of good use. Also I’ve never seen one without a hole inside the mag well where the mag release is, it doesn’t effect performance but it looks shoddy.
the "hole in the mag well" is there for a purpose ;) It's on every single rifle from the factory.
Hole is there because receiver is cast, NOT forged as millspec receivers. That is reason why strength is way different then millspec or billet. Because that, there is chance for cracks or brakes.
@@araxonUK The hole is there by design. It's for the mag release spring to index into.
Kevin Adam Yes, there is bore for spring but because thin wall you have actually hole to magwell. Millspec ARs have cut for spring as well but doesn't go through because are machined differently.
@@ShootingAndReloading Araxon is right, the hole I am talking about is the fact that the magwell wall is too thin and an irregular hole forms between the magwell and the mag release drilled hole. They are clearly not intentional and are the product of a defective manufacturing process.
Well done Callum. I had lots of issues with mine and in the end they replaced it with a new one. I wouldnt recommend this rifle to anyone. If they sorted out the faults with the low standard of production of certain parts eg the backplate as Callum has said then it would be a really good gun. I found it to be accurate and like the feel of it, but there are too many problems and I dont think mine will last more than a couple of years.☹
Have you looked at your back plate where the buffer tube is suppose to be? Every plate Ive seen has got metal fractures on or is starting to shear off. Ive had 2 and theyve both done it. So I got rid. Also there is a hole in the magwell where the magazine release button runs. Theyve not left enough metal there so the spring catches on the hole and gets bigger.
And the best value AR is by far the smith and wesson.
Hi Callum, I just got my variation for a .22LR Semi-Auto back today. I don’t have too much to spend on a rifle, so I was wondering what you would recommend getting? I am currently looking at a Hammerli TAC-R1 .22 which seems very similar to this.
Thanks!
Have you bought it yet. If you haven't got the spare funds for say a more up market metal AR 22lr i would go for the 15-22 m8 i used to have one and it was a really nice rifle. I only sold it because i wanted a kris which I'm happy i did fantastic rifle. However looking at the R1 it has one of those horrible pencil thin barrel. The bolt is all enclosed so it looks a pain to strip and clean. Where the 15 -22 operates and strips like a 223 AR15 yes it is plastic but its a high quality plastic it won't break. Put it this way the plastic feels more solid on the 15-22 than on my glock 17 i use at work. I defo go for the 15-22 over the R1 if it was me. 15-22 got last round hold open to. Hope this helps you could always go down the second hand market you might be able to pick up a tippman or kriss if you are luckey.
@@Mjk10957 I haven’t bought it, thanks for the advice I have heard some great stuff about the 15-22.
I am pretty settled on a Ruger 10/23, can’t go wrong with one of them and they are infinitely customisable- really going to splash out on upgrades for my Ruger I think!
@@felix4645 my 10-22 is a lemon mate first rifle i bought. When i held and fired a 15-22 i realised i made a mistake buying a 10-22 over a 15-22 at the time. I done a video on it if you want to see why i don't like it
@@Mjk10957 I will definitely watch it- I have used a couple of Ruger 10/22 and I really like them. I guess it’s personal choice though. I have made a shopping list of modifications that I will get, lots of Magpul!
@Viscous Shear I see what you mean, almost every club has a Ruger 10/22. The Ruger is a closed-bolt rifle and unlike open-bolt configurations will not lock open on its last round. The reason I like them is because they are so modifiable, and are often very cheap to replace/upgrade parts!
Man that rifle looks high quality but jesus christ that flared mag-well looks ridiculous even if I know the advantages it provides
If it looks stupid but works it's not stupid 😉
Some points / comments to your video:
1) The handguard is KeyMod compatible. You just remove the locking lugs and directly mount the KeyMod accessory. This is information from Kriss themselves. So not a "moneymaking scheme" ;)
2) Why is a operational buffer tube a drawback on a .22? It doesn't stop you from fitting any accessories and you can replace the buffer tube with any mil-spec one.
3) Any 10/22 barrel can be dropped in - the rifle used an adaptor in the receiver. Kriss don't recommend tight match chambers, but some run them without issue. YMMV.
4) The barrels are 16.0" (not 16.5") on all the variants available in the UK. In relevent markets there is also a DMK22P-SB model which has a 8" barrel.
5) The problems you had were specific to that rifle. I use mine for gallery rifle and it has to be 100% reliable or you are out of the competition. I'm using CCI AR Tactical and never, ever, ever experience misfeeds or failures to extract and I'm shooting around 10,000 rounds per year through it and with genuine Kriss magazines. That's not to say I have not had problems with other ammo, but the CCI AR Tactical's are perfect in mine.
Poor review I'm afraid, but keep up the good work :)
And to be fair, you did miss the one common issue with these rifle - firing pins breaking. They do this with alarming regularity. Simple fix with a £40 upgraded pin which takes 2 min to fit. Haven't heard of any of those breaking.
I'd be interested to hear more on the cracked "buffer tube" blanking plate - this is a new one for me. It's never been mentioned on the Facebook owners group with hundreds of members there.
@@ShootingAndReloading I've seen a 15-22 fake buffer tube snap off on there face book group faulty rifles happen its like a car. I got a ford focus mk2 had it for 6 years never let me down and always been easy to fix. Now i bet there someone in this world brought one 30,000 miles and there engine blew up.
Why would anyone use keymod in the lord's decade of 2020 🤔
@@Daniellahehehe🤣🤣🤣
@@Daniellahehehe To me the handguard is just a handle to hold the gun with. For my use-case I don't need lights, lasers, 90° handles, finger stops, hand warmers, washing machines or anything else attached. For those that do, M-LOK is probably superior, but that's the beauty of the Kriss (and others conforming to "mil-spec") - if you don't like it, you can change it.
I’d love to see a Tippman M4-22 vs the Kriss. I know there’s perceived pros and cons for each but it would be an interesting comparison, particularly the aspect of reliability and longevity.
Put a few thousand rounds through mine, fireing pin broke, fitted tittanium replacement after that it's never missed a beat.
You can own this rifle in the UK?
Yes, this whole video was filmed in the UK.
Hmmmm... I'm probably going to join Crap Magnet as the Handguard is pretty damn close to what I prefer.
No, I take that back. I keep forgetting that Otto wants to build me a .22 rifle.
I have the LVOA for a while. Its a pain in the arse. Jams, flips and chews bullets. It's been absolutely garbage. Kriss have had it over 4 months with no results.
Poor review in my opinion.. my Kriss runs perfectly fine.. yes there are known issues on the first UK batches with firing pins not been hardened but most rifles people own are not standard anyways. Didnt like the cheap toy feel to M&P 15-22 and your own person 15-22 looks like a concept failure but each to the there own eh?
I think you should get a decent Kriss in and do a updated review.. this one doesn't do the rifle justice.
Peace bro!
All this stuff about plastic rifles if we could own glock handguns in the uk everyone would want one 🤨
Personaly i think glocks are shite give me a 9mm browning high power any day of the week.
uk spartan 2 i wouldn’t say shite going by how popular and reliable they are especially in America and law enforcement. I used to own and shoot a browning high power when I I used to do proper practical pistol shooting in the uk in late 80s superb pistol nothing professional just at club level but without these horrid 12 inch barrels and rods attached.
Dear Sir, your analysis of this weapon is pitiful, I bought this rifle for my daughter about 1 year ago she never had a problem, certainly I automatically changed the striker as well as the titanium extractor and this weapon eats all the ammunition cci and remington etc. in copper heads as well as the subsonic so for me your analysis is just personal therefore no value in my eyes.