The only reason you should buy a Tacoma is for reliability. That is why Toyota refuses to upgrade their transmissions in many if their vehicles. Why fix something that isn't broke? They still have a timing chain instead of a cheap rubber belt -- this vehicle WILL get 350,000 miles out of her.
If this Toyota Tacoma is driven in a warm climate (e.g. California, Florida, Arizona etc) Will easily last 30-40 yrs.... I'd never drive this on winter roads with salt and low temps.
I just recently purchased a 2020 taco pro and I completely love it. The extra price tag is worth it in my opinion. It’s the best top of the line tacoma out there I think
Hate to think what you paid for it back then, there is a 20 TRD Pro sitting on the lot I got my 21 TRD Sport from that is sitting for $46k with 31K miles.
Can you break it down for me how you save $10k? I built a TRD Pro and Off Road on Toyota’s website and with the same upgrades, minus the TRD Pro wheels/tires, they were within a couple hundred dollars. Would you buying equivalent upgrades that are non-OEM to save the $10k?
@@Countdracula6 it is 10k difference here in Canada. Dealers mark up trd pros. I just bought a Tacoma off road for 45k all in. Trd pros would cost me close to 58k all in. Let’s say you want wheels and badges and fox shocks, it will cost you extra 5k. It’s not worth getting Trd pro unless you really don’t want to play around with your built yourself.
@@layne4376 I got the off road for 36k. Aftermarket wheels, tires and suspension for under 10,000 will outperform a stock pro. For equal or less price 👍
I still have my Toyota Tacoma 2001 model i bought brand new. 4 door included cassette player. Truck has a few dings but running like new. Like the day I bought it. Awesome truck (full cab Awesome truck).
When I was shopping for a truck I looked at all the mid-sizers and ended up pulling the trigger on a GMC AT4 full-size pickup truck. Just made more sense to me all-around value-wise. Plus I usually trade in every 3-5 years anyway. I love this GMC so much though I am thinking it might be a keeper, the only thing I miss is how easy it is to park a mid-size truck vs the full size. Those Toyotas get around so much easier at stores than the full-sized ones. Who knows though, maybe next time I'll get a Tacoma, we'll see. Good job on the review man!
Not sure how an at4 is a "value" truck. My bro paid $80k on the road for his(in Canada). A premium Tacoma off road or premium sport is about $53k on the road here. Big difference! The Tacoma will also retain its value better.
@@Steelviper61 I'm just breaking balls. I do think it's a nice truck still. 2023 might be the final year of amazing reliability for tacomas/4 runners for a while anyway. Just heard this morning that they are changing the engines, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one who's unhappy or concerned about this.
The main reason I bought the regular TRD 2019 was not only price, but Payload. I needed a higher Payload. Plus I saved 10 grand. The Ford Ranger was caught in a lie about their gas mileage, I suggest you look it up!
The biggest issue now is even getting your hands on one lol. My dealer was saying I couldn't even reserve a TRD pro. I would literally have to be at the dealership on the day they receive one and wait there for when they open. Buying a vehicle nowadays is so ridiculous. I got lucky and reserved a 2023 limited nightshade edition in dark metallic gray. I was going to get an off-road, but who knows how long the wait for that would be in any of the colors/packages I wanted. The limited will be fine for what I personally need right now with a few mods done to it. I live in south east PA, and I currently won't be using it for a ton of rock crawling or anything crazy, so the crawl mode and that stuff isn't really necessary.
@@paulmoss7940 Yeah, ok..... except it is a real truck, so...there’s that. Just because it’s a unibody doesn’t mean it’s a “fake” truck, guy. But, cool.
@@kevinwoolrich1326 Ok for an urban setting I guess. Hondas are very dependable. But it is totally subpar for what real trucks do. Look at the towing capacity. Wouldn't hold up b/c its light duty. If you haul a shopping bag or two you'll be ok. Serious truck duty....Nope.
Had a 2002 Tundra bought new for 19k, low taxes due to a trade in. Sold for 16.5k 3 1/2 years later. Bought 2017 Tacoma TRD Off-road for 34k, 37k total with ttl. Just traded it in for 33k trade value. Same truck 2021 model 40.7k plus ttl and bought aftermarket side bars, bed cover, etc. Only out 9k to trade in and go new again. Had the 2017 4 1/2 years.
As a buyer who owned a ‘19 TRD off-road I really gotta disagree on how much you went in on ride quality and power. I NEVER had an issue. Ride comfort and quality was just fine. Never had a single person make a comment on it. As for power, well it’s a truck. That being said power was there when I wanted to get up. No complaints here.
@@ShiftingLanes Will you review the 2022 TRD Pro when it becomes available? Also, if you do make that video, please mention (for Toyota's Marketing Department) that plenty of would-be buyers would really like the TRD Pro offered with an access cab and a 6' bed. The TRD Pro is currently only offered as a 4 door with an inadequate 5' bed. These are hard limits that prevent me from buying the TRD Pro and I'm not interested in the Off Road.
@@RedondoBeach2 If we can get our hands on a 2022 when they become available, absolutely! We also like to review vehicles year over year, if possible, to report on the improvements or what's new.
Hi Hanson, I love the Pro and you went on about the automatic transmission, but you really should have made the important point that the Pro also is available with a 6 speed manual which is a game changer for me. I owned 2 stick shift Tacomas in my life and I would definitely get another one. The Tacoma and the Jeep Gladiator are the only mid-size rigs to offer a manual. By the way on another point, I agree that the army green is the best color in my opinion.
If you like to wrench on your truck, get the TRD off-road and put on better UCAs, gears and better shocks (BP51, kings, fox.. etc). If you don't like to wrench and like all of the badges, get the TRD Pro. It's a great truck. I have an 18 TRD off-road, and I did the BP51s, nitro UCAs and gears. It's currently at 96k miles and I absolutely love this thing. Either way you can't go wrong.
So far the way I see thing is that the Tacoma is perfect if you drive through the dirt and snow a lot. The ridgeline it good for driving to work, seeing family, giving rides and getting work/play done in the back.
Sold lmao!!! I do not mind less power for reliability as I'm one who would keep that truck for years. Boo to Ford and Chevy as there is NO comparison to quality and the reliability of TOYOTA... Old slogan, "I love what u do for me,!" Great review and love the new color. Best, SV.
Great review bruh. I've always liked these Ta-yota Tacomas. That lunar rock color is nice as well. But I think I'll be waiting for a powertrain upgrade b4 I pull the trigger. But you've convinced me to subscribe. Thnx bruh.
@@buricasoltica7865 oh sad that the fangirl in you just wont admit defeat its ok some day they will get it all fixed and maybe just maybe upgrade to disc brakes like everyone else did in the 80s. www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tranny-gear-hunting-what-to-do.680469/
solid information and great review. I felt some slights towards the pro, but my big stick is with the 5' bed. If it has a long bed, I'd buy this truck today.
I’ve owned two Tacoma’s, the first one was a 2016 limited long bed, and the second was 2020 Trd off-road short bed. I much prefer the short bed to the long bed after owning a long bed for around 3 and a half years. The short fits in my garage, and also I get better fuel economy. Plus it fits in parking spots much better. I can either use my trailer or go to my local Uhaul if I need to fit something larger than 5ft in the bed.
@@samuelrowland76 Well... I've currently in a 2016 TRD OR DCSB and have a 2021 TRD OR DCLB on the way. About 8 weeks out. My logic is being; for 20K, I re-up my truck with zero miles, get my long bed, leather interior and get the 'fixed' transmission. With the feedback on the transmission being mediocre, I may just punt and work on what I have. since you've had a 2016 and 2020. Did you see an improvement in transmission?
@@ghall1314 I feel there was a big improvement from 16-20 transmission wise. It’s a lot easier to sit at 70 mph on the highway without the truck trying to down shift, and also while towing it stays in 5 gear much more while the 2016 often tried to go down to 4th and 3rd.
I really aim to own one of these just because growing up I saw how my dad's 22re lasted him 28 years almost. Just died and fell apart because of rust last year but dame was that truck reliable. Now as an adult I see why I should aim for something like this that is worth the money and will last apart from my bmw which has given a lot of smiles but a lot of headaches with maintenance 😂
My 2021 Tacoma TRD Offroad 4x4 army green have all the features that this TRD Pro have except the suspensions only. Look for one that came with all the packages.
I'm happy with my Tacoma 4x4 off-road 6-speed manual $41,000 OTD with a 120,000 mile 7 year warranty. I've just done the aluminum tonneau cover & skid plates/catalytic converter 🛡️ from RCI to keep the tweakers off of my 🛻💨 mine came with the side steps, all weather floor mats, bed lights, blackout badges, mud flaps & exhaust tip so mine looks pretty good it's not too plain but not all fancy I don't want to lift it because it's high enough off the ground for whatever I'll do & I don't need any worse mileage having bigger tires & shit if you know how to drive decent this truck will go anywhere most ppl need to go
Though the tundra and Tacoma had somewhat evolved and maintained the aggressive exterior look, I feel like the interior is so far behind compared to their competitions. Even if you're more after the reliability and build quality rather than the aesthetic and tech features, for the amount of money you're paying for these trucks, you would of course expect a more updated and modernized features
I know what you’re saying but a lot of the modern interior features seem unnecessary to me. Like what do I need a motor to move my seat for? Pulling the bar and pushing it back or forth is quicker and just as effective. Are there other features you think it is missing?
just bought the pro . Glad I did ! Was about buying ridgeline due to the new restyle. Wife mentioned it look like Honda Pilot with a bed in the back which is somehow agree . Tacoma look much better
I got a 2018 double cab SR5 and its perfect for anything I throw at it camping, hiking, any garbage hauling, or material for house upgrades. Roughest off roading I do is looking for camping or hiking spots , I really couldnt see the need for a TRD for my personal use or paying an extra 20k more... What he said is true if you off-road it might be worth it but thats a big price dif.
I got the Limited 2021, really like it, but my comment is about the 6 speed auto, we have a light RV trailer (3500) the trans pulls it great. I had a 2nd generation Tacoma 4 liter and even a slight incline while using cruise control would kick the RPM to 4-5 thou, not so with the 6 speed, don’t miss that .5 liter at all. Just thought I’d throw that out there.
I have a 2017 cement TRD Pro. The only disappointment is the necessity of the ECT button. With 278 hp, you should not have the motor keep upshifting on a mild expressway grade. That much power in a light pick up truck should come on early instead of having to hit 4000K RPMs. The 2013 I had before had low end torque. I would sacrifice lower gas mileage for more power in the low rev's.
I have a 2018 Trd pro...50k on it. The stock tires are crap in snow...my new Michelins...WAY BETTER. The ride on the highway is WAY BETTER in the PRO versus the offroad. I've had BOTH. Theres nothing floaty about it either...Ive driven 75-80mph across Montana(especially western Mt) its solid on the road. For me personally,.the seats in the PRO (soft tec) were WAY better than the cloth ones in my 2016 offroad ....especially long distance driving. Drivin conservative...shell do 20 ish around town and 23 ish on the road...SOLID TRUCK...prolly trade for a 2022 Trd pro...
Reliability and resale value is basically the only reason people buy Tacoma’s you can buy a xj or a yj for 5k put air lockers and you basically have a full off roader there’s no need to spend 50k to take your car through the ringer
I've been really considering getting a 2021 tacoma. I live in California so I'd be doing a lot of city driving and freeway driving for work. I was wondering how long a full tank of gas usually lasts. Like a week or less?
Unless you make 100k/year no vehicle that costs you as much as a second mortgage is worth it, no matter how badass it is. There, saved you the time. This is what sucks about the automobile industry these days.
i doubt this will get a reply. Im moving out to the country and I really just want to be able to get into the city/work and then home in about 1ft of snow. Would it be better for me to get a pro?
Would be nice if they offered a "long bed" option for this truck with the extended cab. I realize that they probably don't because of the difficulties presented from the longer wheelbase, but I think that's a choice that the buyer should be able to make. Short beds just aren't large enough for the things I use a truck for.
@@VC30577 I ended up picking up a double cab, long bed TRD Sport shortly after commenting this. The only disadvantage of a long truck is that the longer wheelbase can cause high centering and scraping when going over high, narrow bumps. I'm extremely happy with my truck it's handled everything I've needed with ease. All of that said, I'd recommend going for a TRD off road if you can find a long bed, (they do exist). The TRD sport really doesn't offer any functionality over the SR5, and you're really just paying a few grand more for a hood scoop. TRD off road offers locking rear differential and crawl control.
I want a Trd off road premium like the 4Runner Trd off road premium Not a pro model don’t need it. Just want the Tacoma and 4Runner off road with a sunroof and leather and I’m good that’s all I need. I’m thinking of waiting for the 2024 4Runner and Tacoma a redesign I’m tired of the same look from 2009 and a key. A freaking key it’s not push start lol. Plus also dealing with sales men right now in 2022 has been a nightmare beyond nightmare. Trying to over price cars and sneaky stuff and being rude.
I’ll save you the time: NO! Either go with a TRD Off-road or Sport and use the rest of the money you saved for mods. And if you want to even save more money, then go with the SR5
Well the resale on the model matters lol. You can build up a sport all you want... when resale, they will give you price for the sport... and not your upgrades so you lose money in the end. Resale on trade pro is much higher then sport.
@@gavinkeene8210 Well if resale value and/or warranty is your main concern, then sure the pro is definitely suited for someone like you. On the other hand, myself along with several others that are into modding vehicles (mild or heavy) dgaf about warranty or resale value from jump street. That’s just part of the game. Btw, it’s “Warranty” not “Warrenty”. 😂
Honestly I don't see the $10k increase in price from the TRD Off-road. I love Toyotas and the stuff they do with their vehicles it just doesn't make alot of since to me why that midsize is almost 50k.
I'm probably going to lease the TRD offroad Toyota has had a lease special $279 month with 2999 down for almost 4-5 months total of about 13k over the 3 years that's probably cheaper than a corolla or a Camry right now and after three years I scan get a newer one. xD Chevy has similar offers on the silverado and the colorado but their base trims rarely you see lease offers on their higher trims.
I bought brand new fully loaded off road premium 6ft extended bed $42,000. I hit 35,000 miles. My buddy offered me $55k for it and was gonna flip it for $67,000 in Hawaii!
Sold my 2019 after 6-7 months. 6 speed manual in cement. Uncomfortable seats, terrible infotainment, rear seat legroom wasnt very good for its class, anemic v6 that needed to rev out all the time and not even relatively close mpg to epa. Got a 20’ Jeep Gladiator 8 speed auto 3.6. Better power, better mpg even on 33” tires, better infotainment and better rear seat legroom. Only plus on the tacoma, drove smoother daily.
It holds its value. I had a 2014 TRD off-road 4x4 with 90k miles and it was in fair condition. Bought it for 38k brand new 7 years ago and Toyota gave me 22k on trade. The TRD Pros hold their value even better.
@@jasonhayman9521 I would buy the TRD Pro if Toyota offered it as an access cab with a 6 ft bed. Seems like a well built truck but I have no need for a 4 door and the 5 ft bed is inadequate.
I'm curious about the ECT power switch you mentioned. Will that help with some of the complaints about the transmission hunting for gears? Also is this feature on lower models? I never heard anyone mention it before. Thank you buddy!
No, get a trd if you want a diff locker with some other bells and whistles. Then build it out as needed. i got a 2015 TRD off road for 25k almost brand new (30k miles with no previous damage) that leaves me with 20k to do whatever I want with teh truck and end up with better vehicle than a pro.
The only reason to buy the Off Road over the Pro is if you plan on yanking the factroy suspension and putting in something that allows you to put on bigger tires (or if you're on a tight budget). I've owned both and the Off Road is a fine vehicle. First thing I did when I got my Pro was put in a Wescott lift spacer lift and 33" tires.
Here's another thing you need to see if yur truck has Is a transmission cooler you supposed to get one with a tow package now Toyota wants u buy it separately.
I had a 2016 TRD Sport. I bought it with plans to keep it, as I had kept my previous Toyota for 15 years. However, when I took the Sport in for regular service, the dealer offered me such a good deal, to trade to the Pro, that I could not pass it up. Also, with the sales tax break you get, from the State of Indiana, if you trade, it was not an advantage to sell the Sport outright. The Sport was great. I would surmise that the trim level is choice based on the purchaser's individual considerations, which may include budget. My reason for buying the Pro was the lust I had for the color...lol...One thing is for sure, if you purchase any Toyota product, it is likely to hold it's value you well, and you probably will not have to see your service department a lot. The dealer currently is bugging me to sell our FJ Cruiserto them, outright, for more than I paid for it, 4 years and 50k miles ago.
@@terrynichol577 you say that but that's not what I was saying. The pro is way over priced to just get a few more functions than the offroad package. The suspension is supposed to be the biggest convincing part about buying a pro from any of the other models. If you know anything about cars and the difference between what you're getting than you would know it's not worth it. With the price difference between that and even the sr5 model you can easily upgrade the "lower" end model to be better and still have money left over . If you're talking about cheap you've obviously haven't seen how the ranger, colorado and even the frontier have outclassed the tacoma. #facts
@@briancooper5272 good for you man I'm glad you're happy with your decision. At the end of the day it's that you like enjoy and ride the hell out of that truck. But!!! If I was your friend I would tell you hold up and consider the options before making that purchase if it doesn't really meet your needs. I'm just saying for what the Pros are going for it's better to go another route. Enjoy your truck man.
I have never been an Asian car person but ever since I have seen the top gear episode on the hilux I have been interested for sure trying to figure out how Toyota is that tough I googled what the equivalent of the hilux was in America and google said it was the Tacoma
I think it’s mostly the simplicity of the driveline. Their engines are at the lowest end for efficiency but they are just a standard engine without the added technology and turbos. Nothing to leave you stranded.
Toyota spends more money on making sure supplier relationships are top notch than competitors. They also put more quality in having parts last longer on average. Toyota has a just in time inventory system plus read about the Toyota way. They give assembly workers the power to stop the assembly line which is very costly if a problem exists. QDR stands for quality Durability and reliability is Toyota's theme.
I want a tacoma so bad but just not sure. Those back seats are tiny. The stories of it being sluggish concern me also. Anyone have any thoughts or opinions on this?
The Nissan Frontier has better torque and feels stronger in my opinion, but the Tacoma looks better overall. I traded my Frontier for a Tacoma, but I wish I had test driven the Ranger and Colorado. Also the Frontier will be brand new soon with a stronger motor. You should test drive all of them and decide and don't listen to the salesperson....go with what you like. I also forgot to mention that the Tacoma back seat sucks...no room and every other midsize truck is better in the back seat.
@@GeorgeSawtooth Wow, you’re a crybaby huh? No idea who Scotty Kilmer is, but ok dude. It’s well known that those engines along with Hyundai are junk. So....no, they’re not just as good as any. Sorry I hurt your feelings. 😂
Yes the TRD Off-Road & TRD Pro are the only models that still offer a Manual Transmission In 2021, the only Reason I am watching this Video before I get one
The only reason you should buy a Tacoma is for reliability. That is why Toyota refuses to upgrade their transmissions in many if their vehicles. Why fix something that isn't broke? They still have a timing chain instead of a cheap rubber belt -- this vehicle WILL get 350,000 miles out of her.
Well said. My 18 taco has 96k miles on it and hasn't skipped a beat. Love this thing.
If this Toyota Tacoma is driven in a warm climate (e.g. California, Florida, Arizona etc)
Will easily last 30-40 yrs....
I'd never drive this on winter roads with salt and low temps.
@@dfls5069 coming from a Michigander I don’t disagree with you. What you said was all true
I just recently purchased a 2020 taco pro and I completely love it. The extra price tag is worth it in my opinion. It’s the best top of the line tacoma out there I think
If you like drum brakes, fake hood scoops, and a dinosaur powerplant/drive line for how much?
@@aaronmonke6825 who cares. Truck will run for 15 years no hiccups. Only crybaby’s want power train updates every year on a vehicle.
Hate to think what you paid for it back then, there is a 20 TRD Pro sitting on the lot I got my 21 TRD Sport from that is sitting for $46k with 31K miles.
Still have my 1998 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road. It's almost 500,000km but it still going. If my tacoma goes to car heaven. I might buy this new Tacoma.
Hansen, great introduction on the Tacoma Pro, you convinced me, I am saving my money to purchase the Tacoma pro in late 2022, thanks.
That’s not a rear defrost. There would be lines in the glass if it were that. That is the button for the side view mirror warmers.
Test drove both and ended up taking the TRD off road instead - will mod it to match the performance of the pro! Saved over 10k
Can you break it down for me how you save $10k? I built a TRD Pro and Off Road on Toyota’s website and with the same upgrades, minus the TRD Pro wheels/tires, they were within a couple hundred dollars. Would you buying equivalent upgrades that are non-OEM to save the $10k?
@@Countdracula6 it is 10k difference here in Canada. Dealers mark up trd pros. I just bought a Tacoma off road for 45k all in. Trd pros would cost me close to 58k all in. Let’s say you want wheels and badges and fox shocks, it will cost you extra 5k. It’s not worth getting Trd pro unless you really don’t want to play around with your built yourself.
@@layne4376 No. It will outperform the pro for less than 10k
@@layne4376 I got the off road for 36k. Aftermarket wheels, tires and suspension for under 10,000 will outperform a stock pro. For equal or less price 👍
@@layne4376 41k new? Show me a receipt and I’ll send you $100 now
It's a lot of money. Is so lovely and temptation but I prefer keep dreaming than a nightmare...
I would be comfortable if it was 40k and under tbh
@@sxpremxcy517 40 it's a happy price for lot of people. Yes.
Wait for the new fully redesigned frontier about to be shown off February 4th
@@nickolasrios7435 no. I'm a Toyota lover. But I'll wait any way for a better deal.
@@sxpremxcy517 It’s basically a $70/month difference in payments. That’s nothing. One time going out to eat.
I still have my Toyota Tacoma 2001 model i bought brand new. 4 door included cassette player. Truck has a few dings but running like new. Like the day I bought it. Awesome truck (full cab Awesome truck).
When I was shopping for a truck I looked at all the mid-sizers and ended up pulling the trigger on a GMC AT4 full-size pickup truck. Just made more sense to me all-around value-wise. Plus I usually trade in every 3-5 years anyway. I love this GMC so much though I am thinking it might be a keeper, the only thing I miss is how easy it is to park a mid-size truck vs the full size. Those Toyotas get around so much easier at stores than the full-sized ones. Who knows though, maybe next time I'll get a Tacoma, we'll see. Good job on the review man!
Not sure how an at4 is a "value" truck. My bro paid $80k on the road for his(in Canada). A premium Tacoma off road or premium sport is about $53k on the road here. Big difference! The Tacoma will also retain its value better.
GMC is garbage quality
If you got the taco, you wouldn't need to trade it in every 3 years 😉 lol
@@realscoobs I trade in bc I want to not bc I need to.
@@Steelviper61 I'm just breaking balls. I do think it's a nice truck still. 2023 might be the final year of amazing reliability for tacomas/4 runners for a while anyway. Just heard this morning that they are changing the engines, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one who's unhappy or concerned about this.
The main reason I bought the regular TRD 2019 was not only price, but Payload. I needed a higher Payload.
Plus I saved 10 grand.
The Ford Ranger was caught in a lie about their gas mileage, I suggest you look it up!
Both of them have a payload that’s super low. Right around 1000lbs don’t they?
The biggest issue now is even getting your hands on one lol. My dealer was saying I couldn't even reserve a TRD pro. I would literally have to be at the dealership on the day they receive one and wait there for when they open. Buying a vehicle nowadays is so ridiculous.
I got lucky and reserved a 2023 limited nightshade edition in dark metallic gray. I was going to get an off-road, but who knows how long the wait for that would be in any of the colors/packages I wanted. The limited will be fine for what I personally need right now with a few mods done to it. I live in south east PA, and I currently won't be using it for a ton of rock crawling or anything crazy, so the crawl mode and that stuff isn't really necessary.
You lost me at “you should buy the Honda Ridgeline”
Have you driven one? I have. Most who just shrug it off haven’t actually driven one.
@@kevinwoolrich1326 Have you looked under one ? Not a real truck. Of course it drives well.
@@paulmoss7940 Yeah, ok..... except it is a real truck, so...there’s that. Just because it’s a unibody doesn’t mean it’s a “fake” truck, guy. But, cool.
@@kevinwoolrich1326 about 80% of the people who own a tacoma should have bought a ridgeline.
@@kevinwoolrich1326 Ok for an urban setting I guess. Hondas are very dependable. But it is totally subpar for what real trucks do. Look at the towing capacity. Wouldn't hold up b/c its light duty. If you haul a shopping bag or two you'll be ok. Serious truck duty....Nope.
Had a 2002 Tundra bought new for 19k, low taxes due to a trade in. Sold for 16.5k 3 1/2 years later. Bought 2017 Tacoma TRD Off-road for 34k, 37k total with ttl. Just traded it in for 33k trade value. Same truck 2021 model 40.7k plus ttl and bought aftermarket side bars, bed cover, etc. Only out 9k to trade in and go new again. Had the 2017 4 1/2 years.
Take a shot every time he says TRD Pro. Awesome review on this Tacoma
As a buyer who owned a ‘19 TRD off-road I really gotta disagree on how much you went in on ride quality and power. I NEVER had an issue. Ride comfort and quality was just fine. Never had a single person make a comment on it. As for power, well it’s a truck. That being said power was there when I wanted to get up. No complaints here.
Me too. My 2020 has plenty of power. People just hating
100% correct! I own a 2022 TRD OFF-ROAD manual trans, and feel the exact same way.
Love the tacomas, just wish the rear seating had a bit more leg room cause it would make for a great family camp vehicle.
Great video! Very well filmed. I agree do not get the TRD Pro if you are going to modify it.
FYI that button is for the heated mirrors.
I love this review. The info, sound, video and editing is very professional!
Thanks for watching! I hope you stick around, we have plenty of reviews in this channel, and many more to come!
@@ShiftingLanes Will you review the 2022 TRD Pro when it becomes available? Also, if you do make that video, please mention (for Toyota's Marketing Department) that plenty of would-be buyers would really like the TRD Pro offered with an access cab and a 6' bed. The TRD Pro is currently only offered as a 4 door with an inadequate 5' bed. These are hard limits that prevent me from buying the TRD Pro and I'm not interested in the Off Road.
@@RedondoBeach2 If we can get our hands on a 2022 when they become available, absolutely! We also like to review vehicles year over year, if possible, to report on the improvements or what's new.
Hi Hanson, I love the Pro and you went on about the automatic transmission, but you really should have made the important point that the Pro also is available with a 6 speed manual which is a game changer for me. I owned 2 stick shift Tacomas in my life and I would definitely get another one. The Tacoma and the Jeep Gladiator are the only mid-size rigs to offer a manual. By the way on another point, I agree that the army green is the best color in my opinion.
Very true! I would love to have tested the manual. I’ll be sure to mention it next time.
Anyone with an automatic trd pro should be ashamed of them selves
"Outlast humanity" :) These days that might be true...Such a funny remark....
Dude I laughed but then I thought Yoo! 😳
@@stevenjoelBx Exactly same here bro 😂😂
If you like to wrench on your truck, get the TRD off-road and put on better UCAs, gears and better shocks (BP51, kings, fox.. etc). If you don't like to wrench and like all of the badges, get the TRD Pro. It's a great truck. I have an 18 TRD off-road, and I did the BP51s, nitro UCAs and gears. It's currently at 96k miles and I absolutely love this thing. Either way you can't go wrong.
So far the way I see thing is that the Tacoma is perfect if you drive through the dirt and snow a lot. The ridgeline it good for driving to work, seeing family, giving rides and getting work/play done in the back.
Honda Ridgeline lady’s pick up
Sold lmao!!! I do not mind less power for reliability as I'm one who would keep that truck for years. Boo to Ford and Chevy as there is NO comparison to quality and the reliability of TOYOTA... Old slogan, "I love what u do for me,!" Great review and love the new color.
Best,
SV.
Good luck with your purchase!!
Don't forget ford ranger use to own the market before it got discontinued
@@MiguelTorres-er9zw owned what midsize market????
The difference between the trd offroad with leather seats and options and the pro is about $4k.
Great review bruh. I've always liked these Ta-yota Tacomas. That lunar rock color is nice as well. But I think I'll be waiting for a powertrain upgrade b4 I pull the trigger. But you've convinced me to subscribe. Thnx bruh.
Nah these still hunt alot and seem well underpowered
@@buricasoltica7865 sure they do goto the taco forums, the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.
@@buricasoltica7865 again goto the forums and look at all the unresolved issues its ok man up
@@buricasoltica7865 oh sad that the fangirl in you just wont admit defeat its ok some day they will get it all fixed and maybe just maybe upgrade to disc brakes like everyone else did in the 80s. www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tranny-gear-hunting-what-to-do.680469/
@@buricasoltica7865 its literally 10 pages of people bitching about how it still sucks. You know kinda like you
Hands down the best video review!
solid information and great review. I felt some slights towards the pro, but my big stick is with the 5' bed. If it has a long bed, I'd buy this truck today.
I’ve owned two Tacoma’s, the first one was a 2016 limited long bed, and the second was 2020 Trd off-road short bed. I much prefer the short bed to the long bed after owning a long bed for around 3 and a half years. The short fits in my garage, and also I get better fuel economy. Plus it fits in parking spots much better. I can either use my trailer or go to my local Uhaul if I need to fit something larger than 5ft in the bed.
@@samuelrowland76 Well... I've currently in a 2016 TRD OR DCSB and have a 2021 TRD OR DCLB on the way. About 8 weeks out. My logic is being; for 20K, I re-up my truck with zero miles, get my long bed, leather interior and get the 'fixed' transmission. With the feedback on the transmission being mediocre, I may just punt and work on what I have. since you've had a 2016 and 2020. Did you see an improvement in transmission?
@@ghall1314 I feel there was a big improvement from 16-20 transmission wise. It’s a lot easier to sit at 70 mph on the highway without the truck trying to down shift, and also while towing it stays in 5 gear much more while the 2016 often tried to go down to 4th and 3rd.
I'm very interested in the Tacoma, but are there issues with the automatic transmission? I keep hearing stories that there are.
I really aim to own one of these just because growing up I saw how my dad's 22re lasted him 28 years almost. Just died and fell apart because of rust last year but dame was that truck reliable. Now as an adult I see why I should aim for something like this that is worth the money and will last apart from my bmw which has given a lot of smiles but a lot of headaches with maintenance 😂
The voodoo blue is just absolutely beautiful
5:38 you meantion "Rear defroster," that's the heated side mirrors.
What about the sunroof bro?
I have a 19 pro voodoo blue. I love this truck. Got it at a steal too granted this was pre COVID. $47k out the door w taxes included
Stick or automatic?
Good camera work!! Great review
Best honest breakdown I've seen yet. Thank man.
I believe that is the mirror heat button you thought was a rear defroster ?
I'll take the TRD Pro with a 6 spd. manual please!
my friend bought one and it’s the 14th in the us with the 6 speed
A guy can dream..
Me too!
It is not a race car. It's a truck. Should be automatic...
Great video! Buying this for my bf this Christmas/birthday!
I worked at Fox racing shox in my home town Watsonville Ca. Good shit.
My 2021 Tacoma TRD Offroad 4x4 army green have all the features that this TRD Pro have except the suspensions only. Look for one that came with all the packages.
Is this the option with MT?
I’m in the market for a Tacoma, this was good info. 👍🏽👌🏽
Go for the trd off road. I got the one that has everything a trd pro has except the shocks and tires
Don’t get one. Got mine 2 years ago. So much better things out there.
@@garrettfordham4537 Please SHaRe (
I'm happy with my Tacoma 4x4 off-road 6-speed manual $41,000 OTD with a 120,000 mile 7 year warranty. I've just done the aluminum tonneau cover & skid plates/catalytic converter 🛡️ from RCI to keep the tweakers off of my 🛻💨 mine came with the side steps, all weather floor mats, bed lights, blackout badges, mud flaps & exhaust tip so mine looks pretty good it's not too plain but not all fancy I don't want to lift it because it's high enough off the ground for whatever I'll do & I don't need any worse mileage having bigger tires & shit if you know how to drive decent this truck will go anywhere most ppl need to go
Excellent review
Though the tundra and Tacoma had somewhat evolved and maintained the aggressive exterior look, I feel like the interior is so far behind compared to their competitions. Even if you're more after the reliability and build quality rather than the aesthetic and tech features, for the amount of money you're paying for these trucks, you would of course expect a more updated and modernized features
I know what you’re saying but a lot of the modern interior features seem unnecessary to me. Like what do I need a motor to move my seat for? Pulling the bar and pushing it back or forth is quicker and just as effective. Are there other features you think it is missing?
Hello sir
Ted pro Tacoma compare Ted pro tundra which one is the best please tell . Thanks
Best regards
Chiv se
just bought the pro . Glad I did ! Was about buying ridgeline due to the new restyle. Wife mentioned it look like Honda Pilot with a bed in the back which is somehow agree . Tacoma look much better
Awesome review! My dream truck right there!
Great in-depth review!
I got a 2018 double cab SR5 and its perfect for anything I throw at it camping, hiking, any garbage hauling, or material for house upgrades. Roughest off roading I do is looking for camping or hiking spots , I really couldnt see the need for a TRD for my personal use or paying an extra 20k more... What he said is true if you off-road it might be worth it but thats a big price dif.
The TRD Off Road is a pretty good compromise, its only about $1900 more than the SR5 and alot less than the Pro.
I actually hate that Toyota offers the special edition color on lower trims the next year. It takes away from it being a special edition color.
That’s why I love the 4Runner they don’t do that and it’s made in Japan
I got the Limited 2021, really like it, but my comment is about the 6 speed auto, we have a light RV trailer (3500) the trans pulls it great. I had a 2nd generation Tacoma 4 liter and even a slight incline while using cruise control would kick the RPM to 4-5 thou, not so with the 6 speed, don’t miss that .5 liter at all. Just thought I’d throw that out there.
great review
I called 3 dealerships and they say they mark up the TRD Pro 10k - 15k from MSRP, is that right?
I called Toyota in Nashville and the one they have has a $5,000 mark up 😩
@@layne4376 I’m assuming they do as we do??
my local (C-NY) had a black on black with a snorkel they couldn't give away
I have a 2017 cement TRD Pro. The only disappointment is the necessity of the ECT button. With 278 hp, you should not have the motor keep upshifting on a mild expressway grade. That much power in a light pick up truck should come on early instead of having to hit 4000K RPMs. The 2013 I had before had low end torque. I would sacrifice lower gas mileage for more power in the low rev's.
Short answer! NO WAY! Only TRD Pro worth it is the Japan made T4R.
Keep up the good work!
Just looks and reliability alone worth it
There is a 2020 Taco TRD Pro selling for $46k with 31k miles.
I have a 2018 Trd pro...50k on it. The stock tires are crap in snow...my new Michelins...WAY BETTER. The ride on the highway is WAY BETTER in the PRO versus the offroad. I've had BOTH. Theres nothing floaty about it either...Ive driven 75-80mph across Montana(especially western Mt) its solid on the road. For me personally,.the seats in the PRO (soft tec) were WAY better than the cloth ones in my 2016 offroad ....especially long distance driving. Drivin conservative...shell do 20 ish around town and 23 ish on the road...SOLID TRUCK...prolly trade for a 2022 Trd pro...
Thats heated mirror button, it does not have a rear defrost
There are dealerships that don't mark up above MSRP on the TRD Pro, but even paying MSRP is ridiculous.
Great talk thank you.
Reliability and resale value is basically the only reason people buy Tacoma’s you can buy a xj or a yj for 5k put air lockers and you basically have a full off roader there’s no need to spend 50k to take your car through the ringer
I've been really considering getting a 2021 tacoma. I live in California so I'd be doing a lot of city driving and freeway driving for work. I was wondering how long a full tank of gas usually lasts. Like a week or less?
20mpg after it’s broken in. Depends how much you drive.
tank can carry 21 gallons. with a 20mpg you get above 400 mi per tank
I’m getting one to work in.
Unless you make 100k/year no vehicle that costs you as much as a second mortgage is worth it, no matter how badass it is. There, saved you the time. This is what sucks about the automobile industry these days.
I really like your name. Pablo Escobar. I thought this guy was a similar name was famous for a reason.
i doubt this will get a reply. Im moving out to the country and I really just want to be able to get into the city/work and then home in about 1ft of snow. Would it be better for me to get a pro?
Would be nice if they offered a "long bed" option for this truck with the extended cab. I realize that they probably don't because of the difficulties presented from the longer wheelbase, but I think that's a choice that the buyer should be able to make. Short beds just aren't large enough for the things I use a truck for.
Genuine question, what are the difficulties associated with a long bed? Contemplating a trd sport with the 6 foot bed for the utility aspect!
@@VC30577 I ended up picking up a double cab, long bed TRD Sport shortly after commenting this. The only disadvantage of a long truck is that the longer wheelbase can cause high centering and scraping when going over high, narrow bumps. I'm extremely happy with my truck it's handled everything I've needed with ease.
All of that said, I'd recommend going for a TRD off road if you can find a long bed, (they do exist). The TRD sport really doesn't offer any functionality over the SR5, and you're really just paying a few grand more for a hood scoop. TRD off road offers locking rear differential and crawl control.
What’s unibody SUV vs unibody crossover?
Isn’t SUV body on frame and unibody would be a crossover?
Hello sir
What is different between Ted pro2020 and Ted pro 2021 only colour ? Please tell details thanks
Best regards
Chivse
I want a Trd off road premium like the 4Runner Trd off road premium Not a pro model don’t need it. Just want the Tacoma and 4Runner off road with a sunroof and leather and I’m good that’s all I need. I’m thinking of waiting for the 2024 4Runner and Tacoma a redesign I’m tired of the same look from 2009 and a key. A freaking key it’s not push start lol. Plus also dealing with sales men right now in 2022 has been a nightmare beyond nightmare. Trying to over price cars and sneaky stuff and being rude.
I'm looking forward to driving the 2022 Nissan Frontier Pro4x
Love The reliability but I notice most reviews dont speak or mention what models and the idea of a manual transmission in Toyota...
Going to see how much I can get on trade on my 18 sport 12K miles for a white pro
Feels like the next gen one will be the one to get
A great video. Very comprehensive.
WHAT?!!! No 6-speed manual transmission?!!!
The only reason i didn't do with a pro, only comes in 5 foot box, i got the off road 6 foot box
Thinking of buying one. What do you like/dislike about the off road
It's funny how Apple also comes with a new color on their phones every year, what's the correlations here?
I’ll save you the time: NO! Either go with a TRD Off-road or Sport and use the rest of the money you saved for mods. And if you want to even save more money, then go with the SR5
No matter how you mod it , won’t be a pro
@@jaybird197 exactly. once you modify it the way you want, then it’ll already be better than the overpriced Pro 🤷♂️
Well the resale on the model matters lol. You can build up a sport all you want... when resale, they will give you price for the sport... and not your upgrades so you lose money in the end. Resale on trade pro is much higher then sport.
Oh and on top of that, upgrading your shit you will void warrenty lol.
@@gavinkeene8210 Well if resale value and/or warranty is your main concern, then sure the pro is definitely suited for someone like you. On the other hand, myself along with several others that are into modding vehicles (mild or heavy) dgaf about warranty or resale value from jump street. That’s just part of the game. Btw, it’s “Warranty” not “Warrenty”. 😂
Thank you for saying damping and not dampening!
Honestly I don't see the $10k increase in price from the TRD Off-road. I love Toyotas and the stuff they do with their vehicles it just doesn't make alot of since to me why that midsize is almost 50k.
The FOX suspension is quite expensive and makes up a good chunk of the difference. Worth the money, but not cheap.
I'm probably going to lease the TRD offroad Toyota has had a lease special $279 month with 2999 down for almost 4-5 months total of about 13k over the 3 years that's probably cheaper than a corolla or a Camry right now and after three years I scan get a newer one. xD Chevy has similar offers on the silverado and the colorado but their base trims rarely you see lease offers on their higher trims.
Good video!!
The Nissan Fronter has been updated.
I bought brand new fully loaded off road premium 6ft extended bed $42,000. I hit 35,000 miles. My buddy offered me $55k for it and was gonna flip it for $67,000 in Hawaii!
What you guys think of the Nissan Frontier pro x4 versus a Tacoma
We just reviewed a new frontier pro4x. Check it out on our channel.
@@ShiftingLanes I’ll definitely check it out thanks for telling me about it
Getting a trd pro 6 speed manual. Its around 4k less that the auto.
Sold my 2019 after 6-7 months. 6 speed manual in cement. Uncomfortable seats, terrible infotainment, rear seat legroom wasnt very good for its class, anemic v6 that needed to rev out all the time and not even relatively close mpg to epa. Got a 20’ Jeep Gladiator 8 speed auto 3.6. Better power, better mpg even on 33” tires, better infotainment and better rear seat legroom. Only plus on the tacoma, drove smoother daily.
can it power a house in case of a outage?
Way Overpriced or has the value of dollar going down drain?
Probably both
It holds its value. I had a 2014 TRD off-road 4x4 with 90k miles and it was in fair condition. Bought it for 38k brand new 7 years ago and Toyota gave me 22k on trade. The TRD Pros hold their value even better.
@@jasonhayman9521 I would buy the TRD Pro if Toyota offered it as an access cab with a 6 ft bed. Seems like a well built truck but I have no need for a 4 door and the 5 ft bed is inadequate.
Most folks I know who got the pro immediately wanted to mod it. I think it boils down to the badging so they can say hey look I got the pro. Lol
I'm curious about the ECT power switch you mentioned. Will that help with some of the complaints about the transmission hunting for gears? Also is this feature on lower models? I never heard anyone mention it before. Thank you buddy!
It helps with holding gears, but it's mostly used when towing. If you really wanna fix the transmission, you'll have get it tuned.
No, get a trd if you want a diff locker with some other bells and whistles. Then build it out as needed. i got a 2015 TRD off road for 25k almost brand new (30k miles with no previous damage) that leaves me with 20k to do whatever I want with teh truck and end up with better vehicle than a pro.
The only reason to buy the Off Road over the Pro is if you plan on yanking the factroy suspension and putting in something that allows you to put on bigger tires (or if you're on a tight budget). I've owned both and the Off Road is a fine vehicle. First thing I did when I got my Pro was put in a Wescott lift spacer lift and 33" tires.
Here's another thing you need to see if yur truck has Is a transmission cooler you supposed to get one with a tow package now Toyota wants u buy it separately.
More money? No I'll keep my old taco... 😅
Which is the better truck in your opinion? The Colorado ZR2 Bison or the PRO?
Pro
Colorado by far is better at everything other than long term reliability, resale and in my opinion looks.
@@gs98999 so basically the most important stuff haha.
Great review. Toyotas hold their value well, you can hardly go wrong buying one. ... and that is not fake news...lol
Yes about the value but the trd pro is not worth the money.
@@bigoneish pay for what you get..want cheap..go to a ranger or a canyon or something
I had a 2016 TRD Sport. I bought it with plans to keep it, as I had kept my previous Toyota for 15 years. However, when I took the Sport in for regular service, the dealer offered me such a good deal, to trade to the Pro, that I could not pass it up. Also, with the sales tax break you get, from the State of Indiana, if you trade, it was not an advantage to sell the Sport outright. The Sport was great. I would surmise that the trim level is choice based on the purchaser's individual considerations, which may include budget. My reason for buying the Pro was the lust I had for the color...lol...One thing is for sure, if you purchase any Toyota product, it is likely to hold it's value you well, and you probably will not have to see your service department a lot. The dealer currently is bugging me to sell our FJ Cruiserto them, outright, for more than I paid for it, 4 years and 50k miles ago.
@@terrynichol577 you say that but that's not what I was saying. The pro is way over priced to just get a few more functions than the offroad package. The suspension is supposed to be the biggest convincing part about buying a pro from any of the other models. If you know anything about cars and the difference between what you're getting than you would know it's not worth it. With the price difference between that and even the sr5 model you can easily upgrade the "lower" end model to be better and still have money left over . If you're talking about cheap you've obviously haven't seen how the ranger, colorado and even the frontier have outclassed the tacoma. #facts
@@briancooper5272 good for you man I'm glad you're happy with your decision. At the end of the day it's that you like enjoy and ride the hell out of that truck. But!!! If I was your friend I would tell you hold up and consider the options before making that purchase if it doesn't really meet your needs. I'm just saying for what the Pros are going for it's better to go another route. Enjoy your truck man.
I have never been an Asian car person but ever since I have seen the top gear episode on the hilux I have been interested for sure trying to figure out how Toyota is that tough I googled what the equivalent of the hilux was in America and google said it was the Tacoma
I think it’s mostly the simplicity of the driveline. Their engines are at the lowest end for efficiency but they are just a standard engine without the added technology and turbos. Nothing to leave you stranded.
Toyota spends more money on making sure supplier relationships are top notch than competitors.
They also put more quality in having parts last longer on average.
Toyota has a just in time inventory system plus read about the Toyota way. They give assembly workers the power to stop the assembly line which is very costly if a problem exists. QDR stands for quality Durability and reliability is Toyota's theme.
I want a tacoma so bad but just not sure. Those back seats are tiny. The stories of it being sluggish concern me also. Anyone have any thoughts or opinions on this?
The Nissan Frontier has better torque and feels stronger in my opinion, but the Tacoma looks better overall. I traded my Frontier for a Tacoma, but I wish I had test driven the Ranger and Colorado. Also the Frontier will be brand new soon with a stronger motor. You should test drive all of them and decide and don't listen to the salesperson....go with what you like. I also forgot to mention that the Tacoma back seat sucks...no room and every other midsize truck is better in the back seat.
@@GeorgeSawtooth Nissan engines are junk though.
@@kevinwoolrich1326 Based on what evidence? A stupid comment from you? Nissan engines are just as good as any. Stop listening to Scotty Kilmer.
@@GeorgeSawtooth Wow, you’re a crybaby huh? No idea who Scotty Kilmer is, but ok dude. It’s well known that those engines along with Hyundai are junk. So....no, they’re not just as good as any. Sorry I hurt your feelings. 😂
$80 pedal commander and it’s got no slug in my experience
Just paid 48k for a 2022 TRD OFF ROAD quad cab long bed.
Is there any version of the Tacoma, or any pickup for that matter, that can be had with a manual transfer case and live hubs?
I would be happy if they offered a manual transmission with a loaded truck still.
Yes the TRD Off-Road & TRD Pro are the only models that still offer a Manual Transmission In 2021, the only Reason I am watching this Video before I get one
@@shrayusreddy it’s ridiculous! Years ago almost all Toyota pickups were stick! Now everyone wants an automatic. Well I don’t!
@@PumaPete I love Manuals Too, my first will be a Manual