NGAD First Flights with NO Control Surfaces!

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  • Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
  • I’m still in disbelief that this even flew let alone multiple fully controlled flights. Thanks to everyone for their support
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  • @lyft4238
    @lyft4238 4 місяці тому +1140

    You probably gave some poor soul at skunkworks a heart attack seeing that thumbnail

    • @Mediocreinput
      @Mediocreinput 4 місяці тому +10

      😂

    • @waynef9314
      @waynef9314 4 місяці тому

      He won't even be able to sell it as an RC NGAD. See how easy it was to just see a picture of the jet, and make a copy just like it. That's what China does best. Copy other countries ideas.

    • @irvinvrana8147
      @irvinvrana8147 3 місяці тому +10

      You nailed that one SR . 71 also had no control surfaces , fuel was pumped forward and aft crazy Kelly Jonson

    • @Nemura12
      @Nemura12 3 місяці тому

      Hahaha.

    • @matdrekkgaming
      @matdrekkgaming 3 місяці тому +6

      Imagine the radar operator's reaction 😂

  • @DavidAllen-i5g
    @DavidAllen-i5g 4 місяці тому +1181

    I retired from Lockheed, 2007 at 62.I am now 80 years as of 2024.Very impressed !Keep up the good work.

    • @hotlapkyle
      @hotlapkyle  4 місяці тому +63

      Thank you!! V2 video is uploading now! It’s flying perfect now 👍🏻

    • @ThatGhostsHost
      @ThatGhostsHost 4 місяці тому +46

      3 years left on the NDA?

    • @srenharaldsted3384
      @srenharaldsted3384 4 місяці тому +35

      Tell us about your UFO stories! Genuine and curious by the way!

    • @BenDover-kt2pe
      @BenDover-kt2pe 4 місяці тому +1

      @@srenharaldsted3384 Aliens will never find intelligent life on earth..

    • @corneliusblackwood9014
      @corneliusblackwood9014 4 місяці тому +22

      I have a friend with a solid following (790,000) that would love to interview you.
      Do you have a contact email?

  • @ultramadness3786
    @ultramadness3786 4 місяці тому +1901

    Show of hands. Who all besides me who've never met this super smart fellow interestingly yet legitimately proud of him? 🖐

    • @sjsomething4936
      @sjsomething4936 4 місяці тому +14

      🤚

    • @kellycarter5670
      @kellycarter5670 4 місяці тому

      ​@@sjsomething4936😊

    • @1943bohica
      @1943bohica 4 місяці тому +11

    • @angelarch5352
      @angelarch5352 4 місяці тому +11

      well done- very proud, do more:)

    • @slickmet
      @slickmet 4 місяці тому +11

      MEEEE!! So are you going to produce this...like, for sale? 2 please. ✌️

  • @JCMills55
    @JCMills55 4 місяці тому +234

    I was a USAF crew chief on fighters and am absolutely amazed at what you have accomplished. Watch out Skunk Works you have competition!

  • @cstar2839
    @cstar2839 4 місяці тому +132

    I have helped build, and flown many different aircraft for decades. I am now 69, and retired. This was impressive, very impressive. Keep up the good work!

    • @MrHeuvaladao
      @MrHeuvaladao 4 місяці тому +2

      Niiiiiisssssce

    • @waynef9314
      @waynef9314 4 місяці тому

      He should know that China will be knocking on his door once Xi sees this video. Xi will do anything to be better than America. Also the government knows this, and will be taking it before they get to you. Mainly because he said that it looks just like the NGAD, and it flies. 👍🤓

    • @tomswift2x
      @tomswift2x Місяць тому

      He is the very first. He owns it.

  • @XenaCarlson-ov8nb
    @XenaCarlson-ov8nb 4 місяці тому +631

    As a retired Aerospace Engineer, I oved this video. You make me miss being in the factory.
    Thanks a bunch. It is very inspiring.
    I think I might try getting back into model building with my grand kids.
    Keep posting your progress. You're enthusiasm make the videos fun to watch.

    • @hotlapkyle
      @hotlapkyle  4 місяці тому +10

      @@XenaCarlson-ov8nb thank you! And thank you for watching ❤️

    • @MrHeuvaladao
      @MrHeuvaladao 4 місяці тому +7

      Do it, bro. And share with us, please. Godspeed.

    • @Designer_TopG
      @Designer_TopG 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@hotlapkyle
      You are very high energy

    • @jaktheawesome
      @jaktheawesome 2 місяці тому +1

      I’m a kid and my dream is to become an aersospace engineer. I respect your work

    • @OctogonOxygen024816
      @OctogonOxygen024816 2 місяці тому +1

      If you are in the mid west I’m down to start 3D printing drones like this with Ai. I know nothing of all 3 of I’ll start somewhere.

  • @Bellthorian
    @Bellthorian 4 місяці тому +431

    One thing NGAD has that you don't is a computer controlled flight system that is making thousands of tiny corrections every second to keep it flying safely through all parts of its flight envelope. Awesome video and awesome accomplishment sir.

    • @jamesdellaneve9005
      @jamesdellaneve9005 4 місяці тому +26

      However, the more stable without a sophisticated computer, the better.

    • @mydogsbutler
      @mydogsbutler 4 місяці тому +30

      @@jamesdellaneve9005 Depends the application. For RC aircraft simpler designs that hide control surfaces in the ducts is fine. At mach 2 and the intense heat the generates makes that a far more difficult proposition. Thrust vectoring and/or control surfaces are your practical options for fighter jets Thrust vectoring is cool but adds more weight and decreases reliability. And if you want more steamlined control surfaces for lower radar signature then you need a computer doing those micro adjustments. That's among the reason all stealth fighters/bombers are fly by wire.

    • @jamesdellaneve9005
      @jamesdellaneve9005 4 місяці тому +4

      @@mydogsbutler Of course. My point was about having as much natural stability as possible. Hate to just have it tumble out of the air should you have a catastrophic computer control issue.

    • @barnmaddo
      @barnmaddo 4 місяці тому +14

      @@jamesdellaneve9005 I think some fighter jets are intentionally designed to be unstable, allows them to turn more sharply.

    • @jamesdellaneve9005
      @jamesdellaneve9005 4 місяці тому +7

      @@barnmaddo That’s true. Life is a trade off.

  • @bobjoatmon1993
    @bobjoatmon1993 4 місяці тому +998

    Goes back to the old aerodynamic philosophy: given enough power to weight ratio a brick will fly.

    • @Iskelderon
      @Iskelderon 4 місяці тому +44

      Project motto of the Phantom!

    • @abundantharmony
      @abundantharmony 4 місяці тому +15

      @@Iskelderon Learned that at Aviation Challenge in Huntsville, AL. They had a big F-4 sitting outside for us to jeer at.

    • @9madness9
      @9madness9 4 місяці тому +19

      Vogon Constructor Fleet flew like a brick

    • @wheelless
      @wheelless 4 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @macbeatmaker583
      @macbeatmaker583 4 місяці тому +1

      true lol hahaha

  • @dimerost
    @dimerost 4 місяці тому +41

    This is why I love social media. Getting to watch other creatives succeed in their field.
    Looking forward to following your journey

  • @vincentcibor8847
    @vincentcibor8847 2 місяці тому +23

    In 2005 I bought my nephew a small RC model of an SR-71. It also had no control surfaces. Lift was generated by airspeed and yaw by adjusting the thrust of the two fan motors. We had tons of fun flying that thing around so I can appreciate your enthusiasm. Well done!

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 17 днів тому

      That sounds like it actually has no control surfaces... this however has two flaps at the back, this dude always overstates everything he does and then somehow all the people in the comments are so slow they just go along with it.

  • @Graybear78
    @Graybear78 4 місяці тому +185

    Someone who can develop and build is not stupid. Congratulations! Outstanding job! Thanks for sharing.

    • @JohnViinalass-lc1ow
      @JohnViinalass-lc1ow 4 місяці тому +3

      yeah...cut with the self-deprecation, please

    • @tuvoca825
      @tuvoca825 4 місяці тому +2

      ​​​@@JohnViinalass-lc1ow
      It's called self-defecation. Boomers used to like to do it when they knew they stepped in it back home with the lady... usually on they did it ritualistically. In Japan they have a form called "seppuku." Usually in modern America is it done on Facebook, or some other public venue. The kids call it "simping." But in the 1970s they called it "compensating" if it manifested as a fancy car in their "middle age." Humans fascinate me.
      Pro tip.... Never cheapen the product. Yes. We are treated like products if we are seen as a way to fill a need or a demographic, more than we are seen as people.

    • @JohnViinalass-lc1ow
      @JohnViinalass-lc1ow 4 місяці тому

      @@tuvoca825 my way is better, so there

    • @waynef9314
      @waynef9314 4 місяці тому +1

      With a name like that. 🤔Are you one of the Men in Black.

    • @Graybear78
      @Graybear78 4 місяці тому

      @@waynef9314 The next time you hear something in the dark, smile!👀

  • @HughFisher-t2x
    @HughFisher-t2x 4 місяці тому +115

    On a day of interminably awful political videos, and war videos, your video about creativity, positivity, design , accomplishment, enthusiasm, leveraging available tech, and fun was like a lungful of fresh air for a resurfacing breathhold diver. It made me think of Leonardo, Montgolfiers, Wright Brothers, and American ingenuity and inventiveness. And I love that this platform can result in positive comments, freely shared technical advice and not just insults and threats. Great work and please keep it up.

    • @tuvoca825
      @tuvoca825 4 місяці тому

      UA-cam algorithm is toxic and puts narcissism at the front. In the old days... videos normal people put up was the norm. But page views are prioritized by secular needs to sell crap. Our economy forgot people and is paying for it... it's just a matter of time before the masking comes off and they admit it. Don't trust numbers if the definition and data collection methods keep changing. If the prices on the shelves change and people you know are affected, and you don't live in a bubble... trust that.

    • @Concentrx
      @Concentrx 4 місяці тому +1

      Couldn’t agree more. Nice to see brains at work vs brains on drugs.

    • @ezye97
      @ezye97 3 місяці тому

      Ironically, can’t wait for this to be used awfully political and in wars.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 17 днів тому

      go away

  • @sleeve8651
    @sleeve8651 4 місяці тому +73

    It's funny that people are arguing semantics here !
    When they should be celebrating !
    IMHO !
    Congrats !
    Thanks for taking us along !
    Myself and a friend, years ago made flying wings from foam insulation and packaging tape !
    Small Gas engines !
    We had so many laughs trying to get them airborne, that when we did, it was much like you !
    We were elated, but still had to maintain to control the plane !
    Great Fun, better memories !
    Blue Skies & Tail Winds !
    👍😉

    • @DelusionalDems
      @DelusionalDems 4 місяці тому +2

      Unfortunately, it seems to be the norm in today's world.

    • @ihatetomatoees
      @ihatetomatoees 2 місяці тому

      Yeah imagine being anti semantics

    • @sleeve8651
      @sleeve8651 2 місяці тому

      @ihatetomatoees
      I appreciate your sentiment, but that was a real stretch !
      🫲 😳 🫱

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 17 днів тому

      It isn't semantics. There are literal control surfaces and people have done this before, there are commercial rc planes that only use thrust vectoring with ACTUALLY no control surfaces. This dude always claims nonsense like this and cheering on the habitual liar isn't a great idea.

  • @alexkalish8288
    @alexkalish8288 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm a retired engineer who worked a NASA and loves flying. That was a wonderful demo of NGAD flight without all the software and sensor control. Bravo !

  • @TinManTwoFeathers
    @TinManTwoFeathers 4 місяці тому +33

    Ya know I enjoyed sharing in your vision and seeing a dream fly before your eyes. Being a USAF AC mechanic retired 30 yrs and an USAF I always thought as complicated as they got. Its seemed we were missed the simple. As another observer stated. Thrust to weight ratio now is key. I saw the first generation Harriers fly a kid and from then on I was thinking simple. Press on Sir. The Age of re discovery is alive 🎉

    • @racebanning6390
      @racebanning6390 4 місяці тому +1

      BRAVO... WELL SAID🇺🇸🇺🇸🏁🏁

  • @anthonysacco5010
    @anthonysacco5010 4 місяці тому +27

    "This defies everything I thought I knew about everything"...... When you realize you just had a moment you will never forget..... Congratulations

  • @PlaneFunRC
    @PlaneFunRC 4 місяці тому +155

    Also, your designs are top-notch. I love your enthusiasm. It’s infectious.

    • @toddolatheks.1328
      @toddolatheks.1328 4 місяці тому +4

      See that’s exactly what I meant to say but no, I give you a paragraph of me just blah blah blah. I have a problem. I know it so they tell me that’s like half the battle here I go again.

    • @hyun1141
      @hyun1141 4 місяці тому +2

      @@toddolatheks.1328 lmao

    • @StealthTheUnknown
      @StealthTheUnknown 4 місяці тому +2

      "infectious" is a good way of putting it!

  • @SLC41071
    @SLC41071 4 місяці тому +60

    Your enthusiasm is contagious man. I don’t know anything about this and I’m super happy for you!!!

  • @earthtosunny
    @earthtosunny 4 місяці тому +17

    What’s as impressive as this flight is the way the plane survived the crashes with so little damage, to the engines, the airframe, the electronics; and how fast and accurately the repairs were made to get it flying again. To me that felt like the future! I like the way that you roll. You are a rocking builder

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 17 днів тому

      He broke a bunch of stuff... wtf are you on about?

  • @Davepotnoodle
    @Davepotnoodle 2 місяці тому +10

    I clicked because of the thumbnail, I stayed and watched the whole thing because of your genuine wholesome excitement. You rock dude.

    • @hotlapkyle
      @hotlapkyle  2 місяці тому

      @@Davepotnoodle thank you 🙏

  • @BenAbrigil
    @BenAbrigil 4 місяці тому +15

    it's crazy that even just copying a sketch of the NGAD gives you almost magical aerodynamics

  • @kevinbates1184
    @kevinbates1184 4 місяці тому +260

    I don't think you need to change your thrust angle. The reason you have down trim on the vanes is because it's still way tail heavy. The plane should glide forward with no thrust if balanced correctly. The thrust vectoring should only be to alter direction, not to trim an out of balance aircraft. Awesome start though. If I were you, I'd look at sliding the fan units forward an inch if possible and perhaps change the shape of the nose slightly to give the ability to bring the battery forward a couple inches further. Great work!

    • @luckyrashes
      @luckyrashes 4 місяці тому +26

      The stall characteristics led me to believe the same! My only question would be, for a vehicle that's designed to only operate under very high speed conditions, to include landing, maybe the rulebook is a bit different

    • @ryanlavender2411
      @ryanlavender2411 4 місяці тому +6

      Tailhook system so the throttle can stay up

    • @ryanlavender2411
      @ryanlavender2411 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@luckyrashes tailhook system maybe like a carrier arrestment to keep throttle up

    • @hughreed6948
      @hughreed6948 4 місяці тому +1

      Great video!

    • @MrCHrisfj
      @MrCHrisfj 4 місяці тому +1

      I think the thrust angle does need to change (point down more at the rear) as he said it was almost ballooning with increasing throttle so maybe needs that as well as some CG change to balance out the on and off power characteristics.

  • @strongme80
    @strongme80 4 місяці тому +151

    Should be called the "OMYGAD"

  • @southerncross4956
    @southerncross4956 Місяць тому +1

    He was not restricted by what does and does work. And what it must and must not have to fly. And I appreciate you active and retired engineers giving thumbs up to this young man. I’m 79.

    • @hotlapkyle
      @hotlapkyle  Місяць тому

      @@southerncross4956 thank you 🙏

    • @southerncross4956
      @southerncross4956 Місяць тому

      @ Bang! 3 minutes after my little commit and you respond thanks, do you ever sleep?

    • @Philscbx
      @Philscbx Місяць тому +1

      I was Hugely impressed with that as well, of retired techs coming by.
      Very Cool.
      Just proves, we might be seventy, but we never lose the dream.
      Cheers

  • @edzinator8499
    @edzinator8499 4 місяці тому +34

    On my experimental machines I place the battery or a tungsten weight on a slider with mechanical linkage coupled with elevator or trim knob to have inflight CG control.. also you may try counter rotating fans if you're not currently. Great work on this concept prototype!

    • @ryanlavender2411
      @ryanlavender2411 4 місяці тому +5

      Both good ideas

    • @Philscbx
      @Philscbx Місяць тому

      Great point on motor directions, there may in fact be disruptive turbulence in line of thrust mixing so close next to each other.
      Possible P factor as well.
      Not sure if turbines are affected as much.
      Cheers

  • @JohnnyBeesh
    @JohnnyBeesh 4 місяці тому +25

    i know nothing about RC planes. I know what NGAD is . Your enthusiasm is captivating - i don't really have an interest in RC planes but i found myself stuck to this because you were so excited. This is really cool - I wish you many hours of fun with your reprint!! GOAL!! well done sir.

    • @TheHoveHeretic
      @TheHoveHeretic 4 місяці тому

      Now Google And Discover (it's what I'm going to do!)

  • @muthulingamramiah5546
    @muthulingamramiah5546 4 місяці тому +15

    That was amazing... Skunkworks gonna be happy to hear it flies really well...

  • @XtremeKB86
    @XtremeKB86 4 місяці тому +19

    Amazing job, you're aircraft design knowledge is unbelievable! I am so excited to fly your designs and they just keep getting better!!!

  • @tjinc2001
    @tjinc2001 4 місяці тому +8

    Amazing! Just a casual viewer. Your joy when you scored the goal made me laugh. Love the video and the success. Thanks for sharing!

  • @pkittler8751
    @pkittler8751 Місяць тому

    I worked for Boeing Defense and Space for years. All I ever heard was "These stealth and 5th gen planes (with no epinage) only fly because the computer adjusts 1000x per sec. Yet the foam models of the same Planes fly perfectly. CONGRATS! BEAUTIFUL PLANE.

  • @TheNadOby
    @TheNadOby 4 місяці тому +26

    That is the kind of project I've been thinking about for the last couple of years.
    What I want is different, more flight efficiency oriented, but you made my day

  • @eveningstarnm3107
    @eveningstarnm3107 4 місяці тому +7

    That was an appropriate use of the word "epic". It will be interesting to find out which three-letter agency sends someone to visit you first. Thank you for showing us this. It's an amazing feat. I'm looking forward to learning more.

  • @dogduz
    @dogduz 4 місяці тому +8

    This was teriffic! Thrilling! Your enthusiasm was contagious and uplifting. Such a positive attitude toward your goal that you did not know for sure would work. After wading through pure shit this morning on YT, I found a bit of gold. Thank you from an old gent that used to make balsawood models more than a half a century ago.

  • @marcuscheko3264
    @marcuscheko3264 4 місяці тому +2

    loved it !!! thank you for the upload, i flew for13years and loved the experimental aircrafts, still have Oshkosh on my bucket list. Goodluck my friend ......Marcus in west Texas

  • @Philscbx
    @Philscbx Місяць тому

    Pretty Impressive Captain,,, reminds me as a kid 60 yrs ago, my Uncle gave me all his RC and hand control aircraft, and I had the best time inventing fun free flying hand controlled w/o any lines attached. Just rubber bands keeping elevator pitched for level flight, and the already tweaked rudder made him take two football field continuous slight right turns till he ran out of fuel.
    Clean the dirt out of engine, from rather rough landing, and go again. I wish I still had them.
    Cheers

  • @SROC276
    @SROC276 4 місяці тому +23

    Not sure how this got on my feed but I love it! Great job and following!

  • @mackjsm7105
    @mackjsm7105 4 місяці тому +18

    This is fantastic. you are crazy.. CRAZY GOOD!!

  • @q.e.d.9112
    @q.e.d.9112 4 місяці тому +346

    “There are no control surfaces, guys, no control surfaces!”
    That’s simply not true. You have a pair of elevons: it’s just that they operate in the jet stream instead of the air stream. They’re still control surfaces

    • @PropaneWP
      @PropaneWP 4 місяці тому +40

      Yes, but these are not aerodynamic control surfaces (in the traditional sense).

    • @gotindrachenhart
      @gotindrachenhart 4 місяці тому +73

      @@PropaneWP they deflect an airstream to exert force in order to change direction, they're aerodynamic control surfaces....in the traditional sense. They simply aren't wing mounted. ;)

    • @PropaneWP
      @PropaneWP 4 місяці тому +30

      @@gotindrachenhart No, traditional control surfaces rely on external air streams, not internal. It's not traditional.

    • @Auqalungangler
      @Auqalungangler 4 місяці тому

      Ok picky nitts conventional control surfaces

    • @mirekfidler3505
      @mirekfidler3505 4 місяці тому +30

      @@PropaneWP Maybe you change the title to "no traditional control surfaces" then... At first, I thought that you do the control just by changing thrust of fans (which in fact should be possible, if barely), now I feel cheated by clickbait :) Also, I bet those elevons will work a bit without fans on anyway, so...

  • @GregPetka-c7z
    @GregPetka-c7z Місяць тому +1

    in my 63, as a marine in the 70-80s, later built F16s electronics, dont remember when i have seen a better more cooler Jet RC or RC in General, amazing built, cant wait for the finished product.

  • @johnnyjohnson4
    @johnnyjohnson4 2 місяці тому

    Your lack of despair after the first few failed launches is inspirational. Just revise, repair, retest. I love it.

  • @notoo7
    @notoo7 4 місяці тому +24

    That was amazing! Now I want to build a bigger one with landing gear. Excellent flight!

    • @chrisbraswell8864
      @chrisbraswell8864 4 місяці тому

      Put a rudder on it, no rudder and landing do not mix. Bank to turn down low and wing into ground does not fly either.

    • @fredbecker607
      @fredbecker607 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@chrisbraswell8864 tell that to the b2 pilots. Back in the 70's or so, pilot landed a b52 that lost the entire vertical tail surface.

  • @mmpatriot2170
    @mmpatriot2170 4 місяці тому +7

    This is awesome! Pushing the boundaries. I know very little about powered aerodynamics, I’m just a paraglider pilot, but this is awesome. And, your enthusiasm is also awesome. Best of luck. 👍

  • @PlaneFunRC
    @PlaneFunRC 4 місяці тому +10

    Videos are fantastic. You’re doing a beautiful job. Keep up the great work.

  • @FindersKeepers88
    @FindersKeepers88 4 місяці тому +2

    Atta Boy, Good work, milestone. Thx. Not even an RC aircraft guy at all here, but when I saw the vid title stating "No Control Surfaces" I had to watch. Can certainly appreciate the first aircraft to fly without them.

  • @bellafemedia
    @bellafemedia 4 місяці тому +5

    I love that the UA-cam algorithm hooked me up with this. First time viewer, instant subscriber. Loved that you put this together with such meticulous engineering and also with such ad-hoc flexibility to modify. That’s what makes the UA-cam-verse such a joy to explore!.

  • @MiguelAdkins-o9o
    @MiguelAdkins-o9o 4 місяці тому +9

    Wow man another impressive video. Your enthusiasm is infectious brother. It is awesome that when the crash happens you just keep going. Keep up the great work man. I have downloaded a couple of your designs have completed yet. Doing a stackable generator now. Again awesome bother.

  • @TheSecondInitiate
    @TheSecondInitiate 2 місяці тому +12

    Arguably, thrust vectoring is indeed a "control surface". Instead of affecting the air around the wings which is moving at the same speed as the craft, youre affecting the air coming out of the jets which is moving much faster so the control surfaces are actually more efficient in force per sq/in and thus can be much smaller while providing the same control.

  • @ColinChick
    @ColinChick 4 місяці тому +14

    Theres NO WAY that's goi...
    NO. WAY!
    That was awesome!

  • @hippyhay1659
    @hippyhay1659 Місяць тому

    Brilliant! Thank you for sharing your "Wright brother's moment". And that landing! "Goal, Goal, Goal, Goal, Goal!!!"

  • @gregdowd939
    @gregdowd939 Місяць тому

    Your enthusiasm and grit determination damn near brought tears to my eyes ....you are the future young man

  • @jpl7909
    @jpl7909 4 місяці тому +16

    Well, there are control surfaces, but they are small as hell and hidden. Not traditional, but not a dynamic wing or anything hyper fancy either. Very cool. Terrifying too. GJ.

    • @slump75
      @slump75 3 місяці тому +1

      I was going to say it, but you said it.

  • @danielscott5004
    @danielscott5004 4 місяці тому +7

    I’m printing the FA/XX right now 80mm scale seems good at 143 thank you for the good builds u put out.

  • @gravityfuzz
    @gravityfuzz 4 місяці тому +134

    An adjustable CG while flying would be cool like a linear servo with a tiny weight. Well done pilot and designer!

    • @freemanripper9379
      @freemanripper9379 4 місяці тому +20

      I have been thinking of this.. Two weights one moving horizontally and the other vertically then you wouldn't need and moving surfaces whatsoever.. In theory of course

    • @abundantharmony
      @abundantharmony 4 місяці тому

      @@freemanripper9379 Hmmmm

    • @trs4u
      @trs4u 4 місяці тому +2

      @@abundantharmony hang-glider? I don't know anything about this, just the idea sounded familiar

    • @cheeseburger3119
      @cheeseburger3119 4 місяці тому +8

      A moving auxiliary battery could change CG.

    • @drewjames8594
      @drewjames8594 4 місяці тому +8

      Battery tray on rails.

  • @ercanyucebas4259
    @ercanyucebas4259 Місяць тому

    As a retired Aerospace Engineer, i will build an RC according your plans, Your trust vectoring surfaces behind the motor outlets are basically for some degree your control services, like Flying wings does have. Greate job. Thanks al ot.

  • @viduraherath4008
    @viduraherath4008 2 місяці тому +1

    This is an absolutely awesome concept, but one issue is that it is completely reliant on engine power, meaning that without the engine running, the aircraft is dead in the air. However, a mixed control system of this and standard control surfaces (in the case of this aircraft, your vectoring surfaces and adding some elevons) could be quite useful for transitioning beetween high speed and low speed, and also for higher and lower maneuvrability.
    However, this ends up being the same result as adding thrust vectoring nozzles on a standard control aircraft, and the thrust vectoring surfaces look like they would have to overcome a LOT of forces, both the flow from the engine and the high temperatures

  • @LearnOneBigThing
    @LearnOneBigThing 4 місяці тому +6

    Hey, super cool my dude, please keep sharing, awesome work!

  • @TundraRoy346
    @TundraRoy346 4 місяці тому +10

    Very cool concept and congrats on the successful test flight! The stability without some form of gyro assist is impressive!

    • @johannesnel8875
      @johannesnel8875 4 місяці тому +1

      I flew RC before gyros was available. Wonder how many young ones can really fly a model without all the high tech assist. There is no skill in sitting back and let the electronics do the flying while you direct the direction and height.

  • @matthewhawkins1472
    @matthewhawkins1472 4 місяці тому +19

    Ignore the haters
    Fun project and impressive how quickly you got it working so well and with stability

    • @lebojay
      @lebojay 4 місяці тому +1

      No haters here. Just pointing out that when he says “zero control surfaces, guys!” he’s mistaken.

  • @jayrey5390
    @jayrey5390 Місяць тому

    That first flared landing was just styling 😅 Genuinely impressive as people far better placed to judge such things than I! Bravo!

  • @midnightsailor1
    @midnightsailor1 2 місяці тому

    Your a damn genius! That was the most awesome thing I've seen in 70 years
    Since I watched my dad's F4D Skyray take off and land when I was just a little kid. The possibilities !

  • @_OccamsRazor_
    @_OccamsRazor_ 4 місяці тому +11

    1:45 Not an aerospace engineer here, but aren't the "Thrust vectoring flappers" control surfaces ? From the title I thought there would be some micro propellers or something to control the aircraft's orientation 😊But it's still a nice aircraft, keep up the good work! 👏

    • @iforce2d
      @iforce2d 3 місяці тому +1

      And I was expecting some kind of weight-shift mechanism.... super click-bait :(

    • @collectiusindefinitus6935
      @collectiusindefinitus6935 2 місяці тому +2

      I'm not certain but I think control surfaces typically means something that interacts with the air around the plane, while these flappers only interact with the thrust exhaust.

  • @brentbauer8258
    @brentbauer8258 4 місяці тому +12

    Skunk works already knows about him.

    • @Ralpha1961
      @Ralpha1961 4 місяці тому +6

      As do the Chinese.

  • @trouble67551573
    @trouble67551573 4 місяці тому +16

    Program in some differential thrust for yaw control when you remove your v- stab. Good job!

    • @kael13
      @kael13 4 місяці тому +2

      Ohhh yeahhhhhhhhhh. That's how they do it. Duh. The sudden realisation, lol.

  • @mikeiso8963
    @mikeiso8963 2 місяці тому

    Blows me away there’s people smart and crazy enough to do stuff like this for fun. HELL YEAH.

  • @leatherles
    @leatherles 4 місяці тому +1

    Just watched this whilst having my Sunday breakfast (Manchester UK). Brilliant vlog by a young guy with an Awesome talent. Be nice to see the next Airframe in production. Onwards and Upwards.

  • @ianj8505
    @ianj8505 4 місяці тому +6

    The algorithm loves you today. I saw the view counter jump 2K halfway through the video.

    • @sergemarlon
      @sergemarlon 4 місяці тому +1

      110k views now. What was it 16 hours ago?

    • @sergemarlon
      @sergemarlon 3 місяці тому

      One month later, were at 880k views for those interested.

  • @TinyHouseHomestead
    @TinyHouseHomestead 4 місяці тому +9

    Well now the cats out of the bag, I am gonna post mine! 😁👍👍🇺🇸

  • @ropeyarn
    @ropeyarn 4 місяці тому +5

    I love your process of discovery.

    • @ropeyarn
      @ropeyarn 4 місяці тому

      It might need an air brake to land.

  • @That_Guy_Outside
    @That_Guy_Outside 4 місяці тому +1

    Love the video and the real-time discovery process. Congratulations on sticking with your ideas! You did it.

  • @darwi4
    @darwi4 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm getting the joy from this fellas joy. I'm impressed as hell.

  • @JoeyBlogs007
    @JoeyBlogs007 4 місяці тому +120

    The control surfaces are in the fan ducts.

    • @chrisbraswell8864
      @chrisbraswell8864 4 місяці тому +13

      Sure looked like it. It must have some kind of controls, and that is it. Engines off no control.

    • @510Redneck
      @510Redneck 4 місяці тому

      @@chrisbraswell8864 thrust vectoring

    • @bomberaustychunksbruv4119
      @bomberaustychunksbruv4119 4 місяці тому +17

      You are correct by the looks, it's basically an Elevon mix aircraft. They just happen to be in the ducts. And so a spurious title.

    • @jbb7774
      @jbb7774 4 місяці тому +12

      Nice work, but this model clearly is controlled using thrust vectoring. A pretty inefficient way of thrust vectoring. Probably way better to move the exhaust as a whole instead of breaking the exhaust airflow into two parts.

    • @hadleymanmusic
      @hadleymanmusic 4 місяці тому

      Makes sense

  • @lynnmorris8950
    @lynnmorris8950 2 місяці тому +5

    To be truthful, vectoring vains are control surfaces.

  • @quazar5017
    @quazar5017 Місяць тому +2

    China: "we need to act fast"

  • @JohnMcClun
    @JohnMcClun 2 місяці тому +1

    More vids NGAD! More vids please!!! What a great flying body test out. You'll have lined up for your print outs.

  • @birdseyeview-5280
    @birdseyeview-5280 3 місяці тому +1

    As a developing FPV pilot by hobby and Aerospace Engineer by trade, loved this video, loved the enthusiasm.

  • @jayb2617
    @jayb2617 4 місяці тому +94

    i am pretty sure the moving surfaces count as control sufaces?

    • @votebrian66
      @votebrian66 4 місяці тому +7

      only when there is power

    • @Tedlasman
      @Tedlasman 4 місяці тому +10

      He mentioned "traditional control surfaces"

    • @rawnukles
      @rawnukles 4 місяці тому +16

      you could do the same thing with vectored nozzles. I think that is what he is getting at.

    • @kirtnewton4108
      @kirtnewton4108 4 місяці тому +3

      But it’s for thrust outcome not lift or say Flaps down, he is using manipulation of thrust exhaust for Flight only, wow

    • @epochinfinitysedge5008
      @epochinfinitysedge5008 4 місяці тому +3

      Thrust vectoring IS control surface, dude!

  • @coreyfro
    @coreyfro 4 місяці тому +10

    I am going to make a suggestion about the fans from my experience making flow straighteners that might help with thrust vectoring or might not.
    When your air channel has an 8 to one aspect ratio, unchanged, meaning a straight tube, you get solid, stable, laminar flow.
    Laminar flow may get you more authority with less throttle.
    I don't know if you have room for it, but I would experiment with moving the ducted fans as far forward as possible and then being very uncreative with the channel leading up to your control vanes.
    I bet you could chase that stall throttle down to 25%, maybe lower, if your exit ait was very non-turbulent.

    • @hotlapkyle
      @hotlapkyle  4 місяці тому +2

      Great idea. I have about 1.5l inches of space.

  • @YouTubeOdyssey
    @YouTubeOdyssey 4 місяці тому +34

    There's no control surfaces! Except for these control surfaces.

    • @glenecollins
      @glenecollins 4 місяці тому +2

      True but slightly in his defence I think he was thinking of those as thrust vectoring, setting up a nozzle on that little thing would be pretty tricky.
      That said it was a bit of a click bait title.

    • @brettm.s.1169
      @brettm.s.1169 4 місяці тому

      It’s surged my imagination to think of how NO control surfaces could be possible. Shift in COG, subtle drag, shape shifting body ?

    • @brettm.s.1169
      @brettm.s.1169 4 місяці тому +1

      Every Drag surface is a Control surface.

    • @brettm.s.1169
      @brettm.s.1169 4 місяці тому

      At 25:15 The front section would add so much lift because its greater dimension is in the direction of travel.

    • @glenecollins
      @glenecollins 4 місяці тому

      @@brettm.s.1169 that shape seems to respond very strongly to changes in the centre of gravity, it may be possible to steer with just X and y movements on a table pulled by bands or something.
      Two relatively heavy gyroscopes to change pitch, roll and yaw may work and would be sort of in theme with the thrust vectoring

  • @level1804
    @level1804 2 місяці тому

    This is one of those “Duh” moments, when someone thinks of something relatively simple, but that no one has done before!
    I think you call it INGENUITY! Brilliant video buddy.🎉

  • @Primetimesdaddy
    @Primetimesdaddy Місяць тому

    I’m excited too! That was awesome! A tinker here, a C of G adjustment there, and wah lah!
    I’m happy for you. That’s effing cool. And I’m over 40btw

  • @drinkwater.10
    @drinkwater.10 4 місяці тому +10

    This is basically what looks cool on paper and works on mini model, That's pretty dope.
    Though in terms of scaling this up, with the fuel introduce in turbo jet engine, you're just asking elevons to eat the hot exhaust gas.
    Also restricting tiny bit of thrust with the material in the way. It still looks cool for RC fans in this experiment though, but would be interesting to see an attempt with jet engine.
    Keep up the good experiment!

  • @frank_lehne
    @frank_lehne 4 місяці тому +11

    Well, technically, the thrust vectoring is a type of elevon. Cool design, though!

  • @quadpop4643
    @quadpop4643 4 місяці тому +6

    You need a launcher so you don't have to throw them. Also need counter rotating fans.

    • @taviss2775
      @taviss2775 4 місяці тому +1

      Totally this ^^ As soon as I heard him mention the torque and saw the asymmetric trim the first thing I thought was contra rotating fans.

    • @quadpop4643
      @quadpop4643 4 місяці тому

      @@taviss2775 It's how I run my twin fan rigs CCW on left CW on the right.

  • @waynesworldofsci-tech
    @waynesworldofsci-tech 4 місяці тому +2

    It’s beautiful!
    Damn, but that’s an incredible bit of engineering. I’m hooked. I love creativity.

  • @cgh1
    @cgh1 Місяць тому

    Clearly, in a million years, you DID think it would fly (at least there was a chance), because you built and tested it. And major KUDOS for pursuing this. It is amazing. And sticking that landing... I was cheering in my hotel room watching it. Your own excitement and amazement made this even more superb to watch. Thanks for sharing and I look forward to seeing your progress! (I'm also impressed there were no expletives in there - I'd not have been able to help myself LOL)
    So impressive!

  • @toolbaggers
    @toolbaggers 4 місяці тому +5

    NGL. This design is a regression into Air Hogs toy category. I prefer more control surfaces like a RUDDER, not less.

  • @JamesDavis-w7v
    @JamesDavis-w7v 2 місяці тому

    WOW! I can’t believe it! WOW! That is remarkable - I am COMPLETELY BLOWN AWAY!!!

  • @billcory7479
    @billcory7479 Місяць тому

    I know nothing about any of this but I loved watching your success. Way to go!

  • @racebanning6390
    @racebanning6390 4 місяці тому

    SO EPIC😂🤣😂😁😁Its so mangled ..., and its flying!!🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁Congrats.. well done young Skywalker! You made an old guy, contraption model builder Smile. I was so into stuff like that in the 60s. We would make all kinda kool stuff. Ended up building HodRods from scratch , Follow your Dreams!!!🤙🤙🔧🛠️🔧🙏🙏🙏Be blessed.

  • @fjeinca
    @fjeinca 4 місяці тому

    Congratulations. Great design is more than the sum of parts. Well done and TY for sharing your thrust vectoring aircraft success with us. I can imagine this leading to some really fun toys and surely other kinds of airborne progress. 👍

  • @NN-lk3id
    @NN-lk3id Місяць тому

    Your mindset and spirit reminded me of the great inventors. The likes of Benz and Daimler. Amazing!

  • @jamesgoacher1606
    @jamesgoacher1606 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the build up from the 'failures'. A wonderful progression.

  • @TheOnlySF49erFanInNewZealand
    @TheOnlySF49erFanInNewZealand 3 місяці тому

    Wow, amazing! I don’t know the terms you’re using and to some it all makes sense but the little kid in this 57 year old body of mine is jumping up and down in excitement for you. Well done! 👍🏻👍🏻 👏🏻

  • @tobiasschmalenberg5839
    @tobiasschmalenberg5839 3 місяці тому

    came up on my startpage, now i am hooked! can't wait to see the progress. Good Job

  • @skyhorseprice6591
    @skyhorseprice6591 4 місяці тому

    Well you just demonstrated something I've been thinking about for a couple years. The best way to maintain stealth while flying is to have (drum roll please🥁) _no control surfaces & use TVC instead._ Any time a control surface is deflected, stealth is compromised. With this design, the jet can maneuver without compromising stealth.
    The one thing I'd like to see is an NGAD that has TVC but also has control surfaces for things like landing and in particular dead-sticking in to land in case of engine failure. The trick is, you have the ability to de-couple the control surfaces from the FCS and then lock them down so they can't move until you unlock them and couple them back into the FCS.
    I dunno how LM is planning on doing the NGAD as far as the physics of flight control, but to me this right here is the way to go.
    Bruh. You just got another subscriber🛩️🤟. Maybe you oughtta send video of your flight tests to LM?

  • @lazerathhome
    @lazerathhome 3 місяці тому

    I have a bunch of rc planes I no longer fly (to windy where I live) and I just came across yer video. Very cool. Congrats on making it work and sharing with all of us. Again, very cool!

  • @emem1613
    @emem1613 3 місяці тому

    Amazing job! Cannot wait to see your final product being sold in all the hobby shops down the road. 😊, Mark

  • @rodneyshima1375
    @rodneyshima1375 4 місяці тому

    That was pretty amazing so the weight or the battery and further you put it forward it kept the nose down and it’s just controlled by thrust that was amazing to watch and learn a lot. Thank you for sharing that video. and I think you are a very high energy individual and I know you can make this work..💯%💪👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @scotthime6928
    @scotthime6928 3 місяці тому

    Excited much? 😄 This is not the type of video that normally shows up in my feed. And it's one of the greatest things I've ever seen.

  • @kitemanmusic
    @kitemanmusic 4 місяці тому

    This is absolutely brilliant! So exciting to get it in the air like that after it looking hopeless. Well done!