Seriously, all the classes look to be quite fun. I'd say it's hard to make a mistake. Pick whatever class looks to have the playstyle you're after. Do you want DPS, Healing, Tanking? That's the bigger question. I'll be doing Ranger myself. Also, there has not been a pass on balancing yet, so things will change over the months for sure.
I can't make any promises, as we haven't had a good feel for Ashes yet. But if it's a great game, I'll make more content! What other MMORPGs are you thinking of?
@@gonewiththesomething I'm more interested in new upcoming games, than established ones. Kinda hard to grow on a game that has been out forever unfortunately.
I think I will probably go Spellhunter once the secondary archetype system is implemented. All the cool flashy elemental powers of Mage, plus the added nature flavor of Ranger!
@@GrappLr right now, the feel of the combat and the node growth systems. I'm going fighter, cleric, and tank so I am hoping to get an understanding of where they want to take the base class feel before we get into archetypes!
Thankfully for you, Tank is the only starting archtype that is a proper "Tank". Once Summoner is out though, it could be a viable tank as well, from what we've heard.
@@GrappLr First time playing yesterday in the Early Access for the Alpha 2, or what ever it was. :D 1 PM today and we do it again. Might do a 2nd Character though, you got me interested in Bard and Mage. Of course my heart belongs to the Rogue... and sadly, Rogue does not exist yet.
Fighter definitely the class for me! I spent a lot of the time in Pre-Alpha 2 just lvling and pvping and i can safely say that Fighters are terrifying up close and personal, heavy hitters for sure. I was in the low lvl Grem area just trying to keep the peace from the high lvl players griefing low lvl players and i killed most of them in 2-3 hits. But there was one Ranger player who had so many snares it was almost impossible to catch them so yeah kiting a fighter is definitely our biggest weakness.
Classes aren't in until phase 3 🤭 But yes I think bard is the most solid archetype right now, because it's the most fleshed out. I agree with your assesnent overall.
True, true. I always say class vs archetype, as "classes" are not in game yet. Once classes are in, I guess I'll fix that vocabulary error. But for now, I think most people use the term interchangeably.
It's hard to say, because there's burst, there's sustained dps, etc. Mage has ridiculous sustained DPS. Fighter can something one shot you in a single combo. Ranger has very good burst, ESPECIALLY against targets under 50% hp.
@@artharionsanchez1793 You have to consider that they'll probably do a lot of balancing also in the next few months, so what is strong now might be weaker, etc. Just go with whichever looks most fun. All 3 are viable at the moment.
the worst part about all this, is I and many others are here to main Summoner and that is the last thing they are adding into the game... Why did they have to start with the standard boring classes you can find in every other mmo out there?
There are a ton of options they need to add. Steven has often said that almost all customizing options people want will be added. I’m sure it’s a matter of time.
This is not entirely true. Did you know that Mage primary class, + Summoner secondary class is literally called "Warlock"? Also, Summoner + Rogue secondary is called "shadowmancer". One of these two might very well be what you're looking for! Secondary classes won't be out for a while, but they'll arrive eventually! Does this excite you a bit more?
Thank you. Actually, in one of the iterations, spear+bow was the meta for Bard! Then again, spear+bow was meta for literally every class HAHA. What would you pair the spear or sword with?
I have plan of Self healing DPS Mage with connection to cleric or same thing but the other way as a way to try and solo majoirty of the game content. Kind of 1 many army thing.
Cleric and Bard are already quite good at soloing content due to self sustain. Mage has the big barrier which does this well too, although CD is kinda high on Barrier. But yeah, as cleric secondary class, maybe very viable!
Bard is the Meta Class. Don’t play ranger as it’s under-tuned and does no dmg. I won’t play bard since I don’t feel like prancing around and blowing my teammates flutes for buffs 🧐🤨. Will probally make a mage..
Have you gotten a good bow and some nice gear for ranger? They hit very hard once geared up. Rangers are only ZDPS for the early levels. Remember also that Ranger damage scales off secondary weapon as well. So get a good blue or better Greatsword, and it'll double your DPS.
Yes, although because of how long it takes to level and get a feel for them, it's nice sometimes to know what you're getting yourself into. Can take a good 20+ hours just to hit level 15... only to find out you're not happy?
Certain people like certain classes. It's not crazy to want to have an idea what you're getting yourself into, before putting 50+ hours into leveling. Every class is pretty great, so there will be no lack of representation amongst them I'm sure.
Its mostly for content creators or people in the industry. Its a true Alpha with an NDA and everything. It is to have more feedback by more people than just the people working on it.
Ashes of creation's payment model is 15$ a month/subscription fee and NOT 100$ a month. The upcoming TESTS has 3 Phases. Phase 1 this Oct. 25, Phase 2 on Dec. and Phase 3 on May 2025. And that 100$ one is the THIRD WAVE BUNDLE to Access to future Alpha Two test phase, starting Thursday, May 1, 2025, continuing to subsequent test phases. Access to future Beta One test phase, Access to future Beta Two test phase, 1 month of game time ($15 Value)
Seriously, all the classes look to be quite fun. I'd say it's hard to make a mistake. Pick whatever class looks to have the playstyle you're after. Do you want DPS, Healing, Tanking? That's the bigger question.
I'll be doing Ranger myself.
Also, there has not been a pass on balancing yet, so things will change over the months for sure.
Thank You, GrappLr. 🙂👍
Really nice educational video, fast, packed with information and very clear to understand. Nice!
Lots more to come! Anything specific you'd like to see?
@@GrappLrjust like how you did for classes but for weapons
I will support you all the even not LoR anymore. Please do more MMORPG content bro.
I can't make any promises, as we haven't had a good feel for Ashes yet. But if it's a great game, I'll make more content! What other MMORPGs are you thinking of?
@@GrappLr how about a look at BDO for the combat?
@@gonewiththesomething I'm more interested in new upcoming games, than established ones. Kinda hard to grow on a game that has been out forever unfortunately.
Good info, music too loud.
Noted, will lower volume next time
I agree.
Great video, excited for what comes next!
Got a lot more coming! Anything specific you'd like to see?
Patiently waiting for Rogue reveal since that's gonna be my main, Bard is definitely my second.
Same here, Although I'm pretty inbetween Rogue and Ranger. One of the two though!
again another great video thanks for the very informative information thanks for helping me pick bard. Look forward to more of your content
Enjoy yourself!
I think I will probably go Spellhunter once the secondary archetype system is implemented. All the cool flashy elemental powers of Mage, plus the added nature flavor of Ranger!
wow these videos are starting to come out for this game? that's funny
I mean, I've been playing it for last 2 months, NDA drops, perfect time to make vids!
Nice video! I’m also looking to play Ranger, seems like a fun playstyle.
Lots more content coming about ranger!
Excited for A2 been following this game for years and excited to get in there and, hopefully, help shape things a little
Same here friend! What are you looking forward to the most?
@@GrappLr right now, the feel of the combat and the node growth systems. I'm going fighter, cleric, and tank so I am hoping to get an understanding of where they want to take the base class feel before we get into archetypes!
Thanks for the video! Bard ascendancy!
"Do not pick the WRONG Class!"
Ahem... TANK. Booya, baby!
Thankfully for you, Tank is the only starting archtype that is a proper "Tank". Once Summoner is out though, it could be a viable tank as well, from what we've heard.
@@GrappLr First time playing yesterday in the Early Access for the Alpha 2, or what ever it was. :D 1 PM today and we do it again. Might do a 2nd Character though, you got me interested in Bard and Mage.
Of course my heart belongs to the Rogue... and sadly, Rogue does not exist yet.
Cleric Main incoming!! Nice video mate, bring on A2 HYPEEEEEE!
You'll be very happy, clerics are very strong!
Fighter definitely the class for me! I spent a lot of the time in Pre-Alpha 2 just lvling and pvping and i can safely say that Fighters are terrifying up close and personal, heavy hitters for sure. I was in the low lvl Grem area just trying to keep the peace from the high lvl players griefing low lvl players and i killed most of them in 2-3 hits. But there was one Ranger player who had so many snares it was almost impossible to catch them so yeah kiting a fighter is definitely our biggest weakness.
Haha, yup, that's exactly how I see Fighter as well. They hit damn hard if you let them get close!
Last but not least: Tank....
Think you forgot one 😮
Edit: I stand corrected.
Gottem! Haha, yeah, this was done without a script on stream, so ordering might not have been perfect!
I'm not sure about the music choice in the video. It sounda line your holding an inspirational speech, lol
It's AOC's official theme
Welcome to Ashes, you must be new here.
Was the Ashes theme, but I get the sentiment behind the comment. Any music recommendation you'd like to see?
@@GrappLr Maybe something like Winds of Brightwood from New World. Got that fantasy vibe but sounds more adventerous :D
@@fronk_altthanks. I’ll check it out
The bard just look reallly cool unlike those guitar strumming dumbos we see elsewhere
Bard is pretty cool indeed.
I really like that they are pushing people to socialize more. Also that not every class has healing.
It is a nice breath of fresh air! Although I'd also personally like solo leveling to be somewhat viable. Can be slower, just not a drag.
@@GrappLr 100% agree. I do worry that if leveling is TOO group dependant that it will be tough for newcomers once the majority are at end game.
@@seussiii I'm sure they will improve questing XP eventually. Alpha 2 is super raw atm, with lots of things that need improvement.
Tank Wall was bugged and did nothing last week, other than that, geat summary!
This is true, although I was trying to cover the classes "assuming" their skills were working as intended. Good to point this out though
What is the summoner thing on the class display in the website ?
It's a class that's not out yet, and it will be a while until we see it. Summoner and Rogue will be out later.
@@GrappLraight ty
A one shot is not the same as killing someone with a combination of skills.
That's a little nit-picky. But yeah, I could have used better wording.
Disagree, a combo kill is oneshot as long as it's in one instance
You da goat mane!
Also do we know if this alpha will be continuous as said in the past or did that change? I’m not up to date on the game
I suspect they’ll try to avoid wipes, but it’s hard to know, especially if some game breaking bugs or exploits happen.
@@GrappLr Very true, here’s to hoping it can be a smooth-ish experience at the very least
Classes aren't in until phase 3 🤭
But yes I think bard is the most solid archetype right now, because it's the most fleshed out.
I agree with your assesnent overall.
True, true. I always say class vs archetype, as "classes" are not in game yet. Once classes are in, I guess I'll fix that vocabulary error. But for now, I think most people use the term interchangeably.
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JK JK. Really good info. Nice work
Kekw
When it comes to single-target DPS, which one does more? Fighter, Ranger or Mage?
It's hard to say, because there's burst, there's sustained dps, etc. Mage has ridiculous sustained DPS. Fighter can something one shot you in a single combo. Ranger has very good burst, ESPECIALLY against targets under 50% hp.
@@GrappLr I ask because I've seen comments from people saying that DPS from Hunter is low.
@@GrappLr 3 options are good then? My greatest fear is to invest a lot of time in leveling a class and then do kill anyone in PvP...
@@artharionsanchez1793 You have to consider that they'll probably do a lot of balancing also in the next few months, so what is strong now might be weaker, etc. Just go with whichever looks most fun. All 3 are viable at the moment.
ugh I just want to play them all now
Ideally pick one lol… progress takes a long time for one character… can’t imagine ults
the worst part about all this, is I and many others are here to main Summoner and that is the last thing they are adding into the game...
Why did they have to start with the standard boring classes you can find in every other mmo out there?
Nice vid, is it known when we will be able to play this game?
Alpha 2 starts in 2 days. As for full release, still a way off.
Please put game options to "Disable Fuckn Antialiasing option"
There are a ton of options they need to add. Steven has often said that almost all customizing options people want will be added. I’m sure it’s a matter of time.
we don't have warlock fantasy, which is just dark mage or evil mage i guess
This is not entirely true. Did you know that Mage primary class, + Summoner secondary class is literally called "Warlock"? Also, Summoner + Rogue secondary is called "shadowmancer". One of these two might very well be what you're looking for! Secondary classes won't be out for a while, but they'll arrive eventually!
Does this excite you a bit more?
Super sick vid!
Appreciate it tree!
What about the second class choix that makes the game have effectively 64 classes
This is coming much later into the game. Probably not for another year+. But when it comes, I'll make guides for it, no worries.
Great vid as always! Can I use a sword or spear as a bard?
Thank you. Actually, in one of the iterations, spear+bow was the meta for Bard! Then again, spear+bow was meta for literally every class HAHA. What would you pair the spear or sword with?
@@GrappLr nice! But I mean the skills are not based on weapons, right?
@@ojamrin6429 No, skills are based on skillpoints you use in your tree. Weapons give some small passives, and effect your autoattacks.
I have plan of Self healing DPS Mage with connection to cleric or same thing but the other way as a way to try and solo majoirty of the game content. Kind of 1 many army thing.
Cleric and Bard are already quite good at soloing content due to self sustain. Mage has the big barrier which does this well too, although CD is kinda high on Barrier. But yeah, as cleric secondary class, maybe very viable!
Bard is the Meta Class. Don’t play ranger as it’s under-tuned and does no dmg. I won’t play bard since I don’t feel like prancing around and blowing my teammates flutes for buffs 🧐🤨. Will probally make a mage..
Have you gotten a good bow and some nice gear for ranger? They hit very hard once geared up. Rangers are only ZDPS for the early levels.
Remember also that Ranger damage scales off secondary weapon as well. So get a good blue or better Greatsword, and it'll double your DPS.
@@GrappLr maybe that’s why fam.
I’m gonna train more during the testing phase
Don’t people have like 10 years to pick a class?
Yes, although because of how long it takes to level and get a feel for them, it's nice sometimes to know what you're getting yourself into. Can take a good 20+ hours just to hit level 15... only to find out you're not happy?
release date ?
Well over 2+ years to go I’d say
A video that doesn't "reveal" that AoC is not finished? How did that ever happen?
You would have to be a hermit to not know its not finished. Pointless statement by you. IJS
You’re a fun guy.. huh?
@@acehypzei if I missed your sarcasm, my apologies.
@@danialmoser2573 was meant for the guy u replied to not you sorry if I clicked your name
@@acehypzei all good. No doubt, you were spot on with that comment.
No rogue like class?
Rogue is expected to come out some time after December.
Tulnar Shadowmancer/Necromancer..... ahhhh not available for this phase T_T
But it’ll be there soon hopefully!
@@GrappLr I assume you'll be playing as Dwarf Ranger?
The Music is too loud, louder than you even
Yes, I think we made it better in the second video. Thanks.
solid video!
Thanks Living
Bardadin
I'm going Ranger though :)
Bard.
good vid thx
Obrigado Joao!
is that real hairline?
wig
Some say it's a wig.
Looks like another WoW clone than will be forgotten in a year
Dead before release? Hopefully not…
Don't pick the wrong class? Dude you're there to test the game not play it, all classes need to be tested.
Certain people like certain classes. It's not crazy to want to have an idea what you're getting yourself into, before putting 50+ hours into leveling. Every class is pretty great, so there will be no lack of representation amongst them I'm sure.
100$ a month for an unfinished game?? bruhh how... what's going to be when it's full release?
Its mostly for content creators or people in the industry. Its a true Alpha with an NDA and everything. It is to have more feedback by more people than just the people working on it.
It’s not a month. It’s a one time fee
Ashes of creation's payment model is 15$ a month/subscription fee and NOT 100$ a month. The upcoming TESTS has 3 Phases. Phase 1 this Oct. 25, Phase 2 on Dec. and Phase 3 on May 2025. And that 100$ one is the THIRD WAVE BUNDLE to Access to future Alpha Two test phase, starting Thursday, May 1, 2025, continuing to subsequent test phases. Access to future Beta One test phase, Access to future Beta Two test phase, 1 month of game time ($15 Value)
free 2 download but 15$/month sub... right now its 100$ for phase 3 of alpha 2
Not per Month. This is pretty normal for indie studios with no publisher.