Like water.. Troels, it makes perfect sense. This is truly an achievement in sampling. I’m eagerly awaiting the release of orchestral instruments and choirs.
Me, too! I need an affordable real orchestral sound in my aural arsenal a year ago. My current orchestral libraries sound like the Rugrats OST in comparison to the really expensive ones already out there.
I think technology is fantastic, but to vibrato ir a little fake, it is too repetetive. Real player makes vibrato always different, sometimes fast, sometimes slow. If there could be some vibrato speed control or round robin that would be great thing :)
We do have speed control over vibrato. The most realistic way (and I wish had demoed that too in the video) is to modulate our Rack - Time module to modwheel. This will either increase or decrease the speed of the natural vibrato. Works surprisingly well.
It’s time! Soundpaint has awoken, arise Sonic sailors and set sail for beyonds unknown. What you and the team have created is beautiful and beyond words. Soundpaint is a feeling on the keys. Water in our hands. Thank you!
Tawnia, Troels and team: this is history in the making. Congratulations on having the vision and the guts + stamina to pull through and make this new tech a reality. Ever since I became aware of the VI world and started getting my feet wet in sampling, Troels’ presentations always stood out to me. Why? Because of the obvious love for music, the enthusiasm that sometimes even overwhelms himself, the personal takes on things and above all the humanity. Again: a HUGE congrats from me, and I can’t express how excited I am to finally experience H.A.L.! ❤🎉
I'm a little confused. I though H.A.L. was more of a Soundpaint thing but I'm seeing new releases on 8dio with it. Will any 8dio instruments/voices be released also for Soundpaint?
H.A.L is exclusively in our Soundpaint Engine. We will both be releasing original H.A.L releases in Soundpaint, but also port and update a variety of 8Dio libraries into Soundpaint, so we can benefit from H.A.L. It simply isn't possible to do this in Kontakt primarily due to differences in file formats and architecture. Soundpaint runs in a proprietary file format called Real-Time Samples and H.A.L was programmed in heavy C++ to support things like true polyphonic legato with sustain pedal functionality etc. Things not possible in Kontakt.
The water metaphor makes complete sense, there is a unity, a continuity, a fluidity of transformation. Terry Riley spoke of his late Indian singing teacher Pandit Pran Nath’s phrases as being like wisps of smoke. I see a parallel. The story of your following your vision is as pure and fluid as the imagery. Much love
Thanks Lawrence. I am glad it made sense - sometimes hard to describe these things in logical and tangible ways. I keep coming back to the word ... H(EAR)T ...
I would like a comprehensive orchestral library for Soundpaint; strings, woodwinds, brass, percussion, ensembles, solo instruments, the works. It would blow all the other really expensive orchestral sound libraries out of the water
The video whets the appetite for more - great! 👋 But by the way: Saxophones are woodwind instruments, not brass instruments (the sound generator is decisive, not the body). Best regards from the off. 🙂
You are correct. We actually had a long debate about this internally, since I kept arguing for putting it in brass. But the proper term is indeed woodwinds, which I still think is counterintuitive knowing the body of the instrument is brass based. But the librarian knows the proper classification is woodwinds, hence the confusion. Cheers, T
BTW Soundpaint... I think it might be in your interest to program a few breath-controller presets or provide a guide with suggestions for creating some nice patches related to the same. 🙂
Correct. Clinically speaking and in terms of proper history/librarianship Saxophone belongs under Woodwinds - primarily because the first historical versions of the saxes were wooden. However ... One could also make the more modern argument that the Sax is made from brass - therefore more belongs in Brass category. : )))))
For years I have been waiting for a good Sax option in the Virtual Instrument realm. This sounds amazing and it's an instant buy for me. Give me every damn Sax you can put out if you can get this type of quality compared to the competition. Good work
For the past several years I’ve had really good luck with SWAM Saxes. That being said the sax demos for Soundpaint 2.0 make SWAM sound like kazoos. I can’t wait for these to be released. Even if it plays half as good with my bad keyboard playing and fat fingers it will transform my music.
@@johnego669 Yeah, I looked into SWAM sax and it felt too dated to buy in this day and age but when it's your only option, you take it. I opted for Sensual Sax that got me by but this will take everything to a new level if it works.
@@YankInches yeah sensual sax is awesome but I needed bari-soprano and SWAM was the only one that had everything and I could get decent results with. Soundpaint seems to change that. I jus those the rest of the saxes are either released the same day or soon after.
@@Vospi I get where you’re coming from and I’ve gotten decent results with SWAM saxes, but being a sax player samples saxes all sound pretty bad to me and I almost always replace them, I just use the samples for demo purposes. Soundpaint saxes were the first I don’t feel bad about if I don’t have time to replace them.
I've never heard such a gorgeous saxophone ... The new HAL technology (aka 2001 A Space Odyssey technology) is truly amazing. Yet again, SoundPaint pushes the boundary between live & virtual. THANK YOU for your gift to us all.
I think it should be mentioned that, as I understand it, the H.A.L technology is still beta, correct? After buying this instrument, it shows a lot of promise, but it is buggy. I find the volume of the notes to be inconsistent, with it sometimes dropping very low for no apparent reason, and getting stuck low for a while before somehow going back to normal again. Seems to be some issue from going in and out of legato mode at certain times. Also, certainly note combinations have jarring artifacts that are very distracting from what is otherwise a beautiful sound. Doesn’t matter what velocity you use, or what the mod wheel position is. It’s clearly a bug. If you turn off the beta H.A.L. mode, these go away. Also, if you play outside the natural range of the instrument the legato speed is not adjusted properly, so the transitions take too long and become very choppy. Maybe this is intentional or unavoidable, but people should be aware of it. I note that the tenor sax instrument seems way more solid, (if you stay inside the natural range of the instrument, otherwise the transitions are choppy) and is a joy to play. It’s just that this soprano sax instrument is not quite ready for prime time, in my opinion. Eagerly awaiting for when it is. I should have stated earlier that these soundpaint instruments are an incredible value. Absolutely blown away how these $20 or $30 instruments compare to what else is available.
To be absolutely honest, growing up in the 90s, were in TV cheesy Versions of Sax Solo's were used to underscore nearby Everything, I wouldn't name Sax as one of my Favourite Instruments to say the least, but this sounds quite Fantastic! When You Guys mention that this Pack/Program is with the new HAL which comes Tomorrow, does this mean that only new Instruments specified as with HAL, can use this or am I able to use the HAL Function now also on existing Packs/Programs which I already own for Soundpaint?
Good question. So just like we have UDS (Ultra Deep-Sampled) instruments already - H.A.L does require legato samples to generate new ones. We will be doing H.A.L upgrades to certain current Soundpaint libraries, so they can benefit from it. But in short H.A.L instruments are uniquely in their own category.
This sounds incredible. I have little understanding of what's going on technically, under the hood, but I get a sense from what Troels has said that this is very special. More importantly though, my ears tell me this is incredible. I cannot wait to start using H.A.L and all the instruments yet to come. It's gonna be great! Well done everyone at Soundpaint!
I'm not finished watching this, but when you get a chance can you explain how to adjust the vibrato rate? For example, When you slow down the time of the sample, is there a way to speed up the vibrato so it sounds more natural, like would be available in SWAM or Sample Modeling?
Yes. So we have natural (not artificial vibrato) in the samples - meaning the vibrato is how the player performed it. Different velocity layers and programs have different intensities. The way to control the natural vibrato speed is to go to Rack > Time and then Right Click on Rack > Time > Speed and choose Add Midi CC Automation and then wiggle whatever controller you want to control the speed. The benefit of this is that its real vibrato. So when you use it on our Savana Alto Flute for example - you get that almost fragile/nervous Jamer Horner sound when speed is moved up and the vibrato gets faster. I personally prefer real (player/performed) vibrato over synthesized or modelled. There are so many small and beautiful human imperfections in the natural vibrato. Cheers, Troels.
@@Soundpaintmusic Cool, thank you very much for your reply. This is a wonderful effort on your part to give musicians more expressiveness. I'm not adverse to that way of proceeding, although an option to switch to traditional vibrato rate and depth would be awesome (or maybe at least implement it for some patches). One thing I do seem to have an issue so far in Soundpaint,with the libs I have so far, is that there seems to be quite a low level of output, so that the master volume on Soundpaint. DAW mixer levels at max isn't enough in some cases (like for some ambient wash type presets). If I adjust my monitor levels I risk blowing out the speakers Anyway, it could be just me, but the level control on the Soundpaint Engine seems calibrated for lower than usual output relative to my general experience with plugins. Its easy to workaround, and maybe there's a reason for that conservative approach out the gate on a new Engine like this. One other thing that is very important to me is that I would like to be able to more precisely edit the velocity curve, beyond what the presets allow. I'm using a few different keyboards and one is what Pianoteq considers "fast" meaning the player can play soft but it will always sound pretty loud regardless. There are specific curves needed to correct this and I think Soundpaint provides 5 canned choices for this. For many instruments this may not be huge, but I think for piano it is, and there isn't a particular workaround for this one (I'm trying a few free tools from 15 years ago, LOL.
@@cachelesssociety5187 Agreed. We are gonna be issuing an update soon that equals the level of all programs. If you want more volume - just add Effects > Compressor LA2 and push the gain up. Also agree on more keyboard velocity controls - coming soon too., including ability to draw your own velocity curves and all for free.
@@Soundpaintmusic Great news! Yes, I tried the compressor and it worked and didn't introduce much coloration from what I can tell. Also, is there a video that explains the basic premise of the articulations in general - in the Soundpaint methodology? I don't use a lot of orchestral stuff cuz I'm mainly a guitarist, so this is taking some thought to get my head around. For instance for sax, if I want to have some mono legato, but also to play mostly legato but have some polyphony occasionally, is there a kind of overall setup that will switch between these two. There are quite a lot of options and in a few minutes of playing I still haven't made headroom in understanding it. I have another goal just now that makes a different example. Say I am playing what would in reality be the parts of 2 sax players. One is playing legato melody higher up. The other is playing marcato bursts lower down. I haven't learned how to key split in Soundpaint yet. And when mono is on, glide seems "too sensitive" lower down. That is to say, that I wish to make a very fine adjustment but tiny movements in the glide time slider are affecting the sound too much. I know that CTRL-mouse works, but then I'm unable to play keyboard notes to listen to my result. Could you guys maybe add a "fine adjust" radio button at some point?
Had to come back and say I've been loving this sax - it really is a joy to use and a great showcase for the legato; it just weaves its way into your playing. You get such a nuanced and flowing sound with minimal effort. I've yet to explore all the settings or really tweak things; the default programs are amazing as is.
Woh Soundpaint is love! all your accessories are amazing, thank you for this great work! PS: Where could I get the tripod they use in their demonstrations for the machine (laptop), thank you very much!
I think the confusion came from an email introducing H.A.L. (for Soundpaint) but also included Mention of 8dio releases of Laurie and Jenifer. To me, that implied The vocal releases used H.A.L. I'm clear on it now. Thanks for the reply
Wonderful sampled instrument and so expressive... I am wondering why you haven't included flutter and growl for this soprano sax, maybe it will come at some point in a future update... I feel that those articulations can be very useful also as a sound design start inside Soundpaint. Kind regards and blessings, MaxT
I am so looking forward to getting this!!! So much so I had to go back and add my 8 DIO Studio sax to an old piano improv of mine just in anticipation! BTW, I just now uploaded that to my UA-cam channel as well.
Is it possible to transpose and pitch to simulate a second or 3rd instrument and then play polyphonic and unison with the new HAL? That way I can simulate a true ensemble and how they can play in Unison or Divisi at any time
If you’re wanting to simulate an ensemble, one thing you can do is load multiple legato parts and link all parts in the legato module, so their legatos are the same, unless you want them custom. You could just use one legato part, but on unison lines it would sound like a solo, which is why you choose two or more. Personally, I would probably choose two maybe three. Then if you wanted to take things even further you could start panning the parts a little to give a more ensemble feel. For example, load a Tenor and Soprano sax part/s together, adjust playable ranges to be realistic, and then pan accordingly… just an idea.
This looks so fun! Just a quick question… are you possibly bringing the Soundpaint engine to iOS now that we are finally running parity in power to a desktop computer? I do most of my work on a 12.9” M1 iPad with 16gb ram and 1 tb of ssd space, in . most instances it performs as well as my 16” MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro chip in it, lol. Truly love your work!
It sound awesome! I bought the tenor saxophone and it's great, it's just one thing I'm a bit confused about. As there are no keyswitches, how do we switch between articulations? Do we need to setup 4 articulation parts, use the matrix to mute them by velocity? Or am I missing something? Thanks :)
A couple of different ways. A lot of composers use expression maps in their DAWs, which don't require keyswitches. You can also just load a couple of different instances with different articulations. The reason is partially because Soundpaint has notes on every key, so the keyswitches obstruct that. But its also a more personal thing for me. The keyboard is the only place we have to make music in the computer. So by banning keyswitches (at least for now) - we (as developers) are forced to try to find other solutions. For example that you can just play polyphonic legato like a piano - or you get 127 discrete velocity layers both on modwheel and velocity based instruments. But thats just my take on it - and it does seem like the community wants keyswitches, so we will probably add them relatively soon. I just won't be using them myself for the reasons stated above. Cheers, Troels
@@Soundpaintmusic I see, thanks for the response. Maybe BRSO articulate for fl studio will come in handy.. I'll experiment :) keep up your awesome work.
@@Soundpaintmusic Hi Troels - I would think that if you had to add key switches, the best way to please everybody would be to make them optional (on or off), and assignable to whatever keys you want. Of course that might be a huge programing chore.
They are going to port a lot of the orchestral samples they recorded at Zlin stage. So expect to see new libraries that are based on their current 8Dio Century-, Legion- and CAGE-series (to name but a few).
You know ... I agree with you, but it is strange in Soundpaint - cause even things that aren't conventional - can suddenly become so. Begins at 14:06 Cheers - T
oh my goodness, this is the best saxophone virtual Instrument that I ever heard
Like water.. Troels, it makes perfect sense. This is truly an achievement in sampling. I’m eagerly awaiting the release of orchestral instruments and choirs.
So am I!! 👆
Me, too! I need an affordable real orchestral sound in my aural arsenal a year ago.
My current orchestral libraries sound like the Rugrats OST in comparison to the really expensive ones already out there.
I think technology is fantastic, but to vibrato ir a little fake, it is too repetetive. Real player makes vibrato always different, sometimes fast, sometimes slow. If there could be some vibrato speed control or round robin that would be great thing :)
We do have speed control over vibrato. The most realistic way (and I wish had demoed that too in the video) is to modulate our Rack - Time module to modwheel. This will either increase or decrease the speed of the natural vibrato. Works surprisingly well.
yaaaaaasssss. More water plzzzzzz....
It'll soon be raining legato!! No umbrella required! :)
It’s time! Soundpaint has awoken, arise Sonic sailors and set sail for beyonds unknown.
What you and the team have created is beautiful and beyond words. Soundpaint is a feeling on the keys. Water in our hands. Thank you!
Be water, my friend.
Tawnia, Troels and team: this is history in the making. Congratulations on having the vision and the guts + stamina to pull through and make this new tech a reality. Ever since I became aware of the VI world and started getting my feet wet in sampling, Troels’ presentations always stood out to me. Why? Because of the obvious love for music, the enthusiasm that sometimes even overwhelms himself, the personal takes on things and above all the humanity.
Again: a HUGE congrats from me, and I can’t express how excited I am to finally experience H.A.L.! ❤🎉
Thanks Temme - very very kind!
I'm a little confused. I though H.A.L. was more of a Soundpaint thing but I'm seeing new releases on 8dio with it. Will any 8dio instruments/voices be released also for Soundpaint?
H.A.L is exclusively in our Soundpaint Engine. We will both be releasing original H.A.L releases in Soundpaint, but also port and update a variety of 8Dio libraries into Soundpaint, so we can benefit from H.A.L. It simply isn't possible to do this in Kontakt primarily due to differences in file formats and architecture. Soundpaint runs in a proprietary file format called Real-Time Samples and H.A.L was programmed in heavy C++ to support things like true polyphonic legato with sustain pedal functionality etc. Things not possible in Kontakt.
The water metaphor makes complete sense, there is a unity, a continuity, a fluidity of transformation. Terry Riley spoke of his late Indian singing teacher Pandit Pran Nath’s phrases as being like wisps of smoke. I see a parallel. The story of your following your vision is as pure and fluid as the imagery. Much love
Thanks Lawrence. I am glad it made sense - sometimes hard to describe these things in logical and tangible ways. I keep coming back to the word ... H(EAR)T ...
That was sublime! That glorious shimmer sound at the end was like the sound you might hear in the afterlife! 😱😀
I would like a comprehensive orchestral library for Soundpaint; strings, woodwinds, brass, percussion, ensembles, solo instruments, the works.
It would blow all the other really expensive orchestral sound libraries out of the water
Thats exactly what you are gonna get - you just wait and see!
amazing! love the emotion that Troells put in the ending...
It just ... happened that way! Seduced by sounds.
@@Soundpaintmusic ...and how could there be a sweeter seduction than SP!
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I am looking forward to the upgrade. Congratulations on the success of the company!
Thx Mark!
The video whets the appetite for more - great! 👋
But by the way: Saxophones are woodwind instruments, not brass instruments (the sound generator is decisive, not the body). Best regards from the off. 🙂
You are correct. We actually had a long debate about this internally, since I kept arguing for putting it in brass. But the proper term is indeed woodwinds, which I still think is counterintuitive knowing the body of the instrument is brass based. But the librarian knows the proper classification is woodwinds, hence the confusion. Cheers, T
The wizard in his cave, making magic.
Thank you Troels for your dedication and inspiration with the Soundpaint project. You really make me smile 😊
You make ME smile! - T
Indeed, this is a wonderful sounding instrument. Can't wait to get into it with my wind controller setup!! ❤
BTW Soundpaint... I think it might be in your interest to program a few breath-controller presets or provide a guide with suggestions for creating some nice patches related to the same. 🙂
Wow, this is beautiful. And the freeze control is really groundbreaking!
Sopran Saxophon Isn't a brass instrument. It belongs to the woodwind section because it has a reed.
Correct. Clinically speaking and in terms of proper history/librarianship Saxophone belongs under Woodwinds - primarily because the first historical versions of the saxes were wooden. However ... One could also make the more modern argument that the Sax is made from brass - therefore more belongs in Brass category. : )))))
this is 2022🫶
Bravo !!
For years I have been waiting for a good Sax option in the Virtual Instrument realm. This sounds amazing and it's an instant buy for me. Give me every damn Sax you can put out if you can get this type of quality compared to the competition. Good work
For the past several years I’ve had really good luck with SWAM Saxes. That being said the sax demos for Soundpaint 2.0 make SWAM sound like kazoos. I can’t wait for these to be released. Even if it plays half as good with my bad keyboard playing and fat fingers it will transform my music.
@@johnego669 Yeah, I looked into SWAM sax and it felt too dated to buy in this day and age but when it's your only option, you take it. I opted for Sensual Sax that got me by but this will take everything to a new level if it works.
@@YankInches yeah sensual sax is awesome but I needed bari-soprano and SWAM was the only one that had everything and I could get decent results with. Soundpaint seems to change that. I jus those the rest of the saxes are either released the same day or soon after.
@@johnego669
"That being said the sax demos for Soundpaint 2.0 make SWAM sound like kazoos."
Can't disagree more.
@@Vospi I get where you’re coming from and I’ve gotten decent results with SWAM saxes, but being a sax player samples saxes all sound pretty bad to me and I almost always replace them, I just use the samples for demo purposes. Soundpaint saxes were the first I don’t feel bad about if I don’t have time to replace them.
I've never heard such a gorgeous saxophone ... The new HAL technology (aka 2001 A Space Odyssey technology) is truly amazing. Yet again, SoundPaint pushes the boundary between live & virtual. THANK YOU for your gift to us all.
Holy frick!!!!! Wow
I think it should be mentioned that, as I understand it, the H.A.L technology is still beta, correct?
After buying this instrument, it shows a lot of promise, but it is buggy. I find the volume of the notes to be inconsistent, with it sometimes dropping very low for no apparent reason, and getting stuck low for a while before somehow going back to normal again. Seems to be some issue from going in and out of legato mode at certain times. Also, certainly note combinations have jarring artifacts that are very distracting from what is otherwise a beautiful sound. Doesn’t matter what velocity you use, or what the mod wheel position is. It’s clearly a bug. If you turn off the beta H.A.L. mode, these go away.
Also, if you play outside the natural range of the instrument the legato speed is not adjusted properly, so the transitions take too long and become very choppy. Maybe this is intentional or unavoidable, but people should be aware of it.
I note that the tenor sax instrument seems way more solid, (if you stay inside the natural range of the instrument, otherwise the transitions are choppy) and is a joy to play. It’s just that this soprano sax instrument is not quite ready for prime time, in my opinion. Eagerly awaiting for when it is.
I should have stated earlier that these soundpaint instruments are an incredible value. Absolutely blown away how these $20 or $30 instruments compare to what else is available.
Beautiful! Can't wait to get this!
(But remember: Sax players need to take breaths. Well, unless you're Kenny G and circular breathe...)
To be absolutely honest, growing up in the 90s, were in TV cheesy Versions of Sax Solo's were used to underscore nearby Everything, I wouldn't name Sax as one of my Favourite Instruments to say the least, but this sounds quite Fantastic!
When You Guys mention that this Pack/Program is with the new HAL which comes Tomorrow, does this mean that only new Instruments specified as with HAL, can use this or am I able to use the HAL Function now also on existing Packs/Programs which I already own for Soundpaint?
Good question. So just like we have UDS (Ultra Deep-Sampled) instruments already - H.A.L does require legato samples to generate new ones. We will be doing H.A.L upgrades to certain current Soundpaint libraries, so they can benefit from it. But in short H.A.L instruments are uniquely in their own category.
Great work Troels, loving this and your hard work to improve SoundPaint... I'm with you on the journey!
Thank you!!
This sounds incredible. I have little understanding of what's going on technically, under the hood, but I get a sense from what Troels has said that this is very special. More importantly though, my ears tell me this is incredible. I cannot wait to start using H.A.L and all the instruments yet to come. It's gonna be great! Well done everyone at Soundpaint!
Agreed. We can talk tech and specs all days long, but at the end it all comes down to H(EAR)T.
what a beautiful organic sound (is it kontakt huh never)
I'm not finished watching this, but when you get a chance can you explain how to adjust the vibrato rate? For example, When you slow down the time of the sample, is there a way to speed up the vibrato so it sounds more natural, like would be available in SWAM or Sample Modeling?
Yes. So we have natural (not artificial vibrato) in the samples - meaning the vibrato is how the player performed it. Different velocity layers and programs have different intensities. The way to control the natural vibrato speed is to go to Rack > Time and then Right Click on Rack > Time > Speed and choose Add Midi CC Automation and then wiggle whatever controller you want to control the speed. The benefit of this is that its real vibrato. So when you use it on our Savana Alto Flute for example - you get that almost fragile/nervous Jamer Horner sound when speed is moved up and the vibrato gets faster. I personally prefer real (player/performed) vibrato over synthesized or modelled. There are so many small and beautiful human imperfections in the natural vibrato. Cheers, Troels.
@@Soundpaintmusic Cool, thank you very much for your reply. This is a wonderful effort on your part to give musicians more expressiveness. I'm not adverse to that way of proceeding, although an option to switch to traditional vibrato rate and depth would be awesome (or maybe at least implement it for some patches). One thing I do seem to have an issue so far in Soundpaint,with the libs I have so far, is that there seems to be quite a low level of output, so that the master volume on Soundpaint. DAW mixer levels at max isn't enough in some cases (like for some ambient wash type presets). If I adjust my monitor levels I risk blowing out the speakers Anyway, it could be just me, but the level control on the Soundpaint Engine seems calibrated for lower than usual output relative to my general experience with plugins. Its easy to workaround, and maybe there's a reason for that conservative approach out the gate on a new Engine like this.
One other thing that is very important to me is that I would like to be able to more precisely edit the velocity curve, beyond what the presets allow. I'm using a few different keyboards and one is what Pianoteq considers "fast" meaning the player can play soft but it will always sound pretty loud regardless. There are specific curves needed to correct this and I think Soundpaint provides 5 canned choices for this. For many instruments this may not be huge, but I think for piano it is, and there isn't a particular workaround for this one (I'm trying a few free tools from 15 years ago, LOL.
@@cachelesssociety5187 Agreed. We are gonna be issuing an update soon that equals the level of all programs. If you want more volume - just add Effects > Compressor LA2 and push the gain up. Also agree on more keyboard velocity controls - coming soon too., including ability to draw your own velocity curves and all for free.
@@Soundpaintmusic Great news! Yes, I tried the compressor and it worked and didn't introduce much coloration from what I can tell. Also, is there a video that explains the basic premise of the articulations in general - in the Soundpaint methodology? I don't use a lot of orchestral stuff cuz I'm mainly a guitarist, so this is taking some thought to get my head around. For instance for sax, if I want to have some mono legato, but also to play mostly legato but have some polyphony occasionally, is there a kind of overall setup that will switch between these two. There are quite a lot of options and in a few minutes of playing I still haven't made headroom in understanding it.
I have another goal just now that makes a different example. Say I am playing what would in reality be the parts of 2 sax players. One is playing legato melody higher up. The other is playing marcato bursts lower down. I haven't learned how to key split in Soundpaint yet. And when mono is on, glide seems "too sensitive" lower down. That is to say, that I wish to make a very fine adjustment but tiny movements in the glide time slider are affecting the sound too much. I know that CTRL-mouse works, but then I'm unable to play keyboard notes to listen to my result. Could you guys maybe add a "fine adjust" radio button at some point?
What about the EWI? Would it work with BC?
Amazing job to you and your team. This sounds beautiful, talk about a musical tool to get folks excited. Congratulations!
Thanks so much Carbon!
Sounds very impressive
Such a wonderful sound. Great work!
This will probably be my first Soundpaint venture. Love the demo and love how humanized this sax sounds!
Had to come back and say I've been loving this sax - it really is a joy to use and a great showcase for the legato; it just weaves its way into your playing. You get such a nuanced and flowing sound with minimal effort. I've yet to explore all the settings or really tweak things; the default programs are amazing as is.
Just.... Wow! 👏👏👏
Woh Soundpaint is love! all your accessories are amazing, thank you for this great work!
PS: Where could I get the tripod they use in their demonstrations for the machine (laptop), thank you very much!
Thx Hernan!
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I play soprano and tenor and have until today never ever heard a lib that comes even close. This is truly impressive. I am getting a copy for sure.
Which one is more suitable for 80s pop/rock/ballet? I can only choose one
This is sooo impressive!
Not on your website now...
Can we know the date of the release for this librairy ? Thank you !
It's coming tomorrow, same as H.A.L upgrade :)
The sax is here baby!!
This is my favorite H.A.L instrument so far. Just gorgeous.
🙏🏻
please add real instrument sound range with highlight on the keyboard
Done! 😇 New Soundpaint 2.5 w/ 8 Major New Features
ua-cam.com/video/jeYOYf_6oXI/v-deo.html
Does it use aftertouch as a controller? Seems to me to be a more direct controller than the mod wheel which requires another finger.
Nope. This is just keyboard and modwheel. H.A.L does a lot of things too to enhance the experience.
I think the confusion came from an email introducing H.A.L. (for Soundpaint) but also included Mention of 8dio releases of Laurie and Jenifer. To me, that implied The vocal releases used H.A.L. I'm clear on it now. Thanks for the reply
😍🥰🤩
Wonderful sampled instrument and so expressive... I am wondering why you haven't included flutter and growl for this soprano sax, maybe it will come at some point in a future update... I feel that those articulations can be very useful also as a sound design start inside Soundpaint. Kind regards and blessings, MaxT
I am so looking forward to getting this!!!
So much so I had to go back and add my 8 DIO Studio sax to an old piano improv of mine just in anticipation!
BTW, I just now uploaded that to my UA-cam channel as well.
Looks like sp subscriptions are HAL supercharged too, even though subscription numbers are not god
Is it possible to transpose and pitch to simulate a second or 3rd instrument and then play polyphonic and unison with the new HAL?
That way I can simulate a true ensemble and how they can play in Unison or Divisi at any time
If you’re wanting to simulate an ensemble, one thing you can do is load multiple legato parts and link all parts in the legato module, so their legatos are the same, unless you want them custom. You could just use one legato part, but on unison lines it would sound like a solo, which is why you choose two or more. Personally, I would probably choose two maybe three.
Then if you wanted to take things even further you could start panning the parts a little to give a more ensemble feel.
For example, load a Tenor and Soprano sax part/s together, adjust playable ranges to be realistic, and then pan accordingly… just an idea.
Might slip in a program or two for the soprano sax before release 😉
Waiting for a sale!
We are never on sale, hence our pricing.
Any limits on sustain time? Is it looped or does it just fall off after a few seconds?
The sustains are longer, more like 5-6 seconds. 🥂
@@Soundpaintmusic why not looped?
One word: perfection!!! 😮😮
This looks so fun! Just a quick question… are you possibly bringing the Soundpaint engine to iOS now that we are finally running parity in power to a desktop computer? I do most of my work on a 12.9” M1 iPad with 16gb ram and 1 tb of ssd space, in . most instances it performs as well as my 16” MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro chip in it, lol. Truly love your work!
It is possible and we do have the capability to run in iOS - we just need to develop other technologies first.
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It sound awesome! I bought the tenor saxophone and it's great, it's just one thing I'm a bit confused about. As there are no keyswitches, how do we switch between articulations? Do we need to setup 4 articulation parts, use the matrix to mute them by velocity? Or am I missing something? Thanks :)
A couple of different ways. A lot of composers use expression maps in their DAWs, which don't require keyswitches. You can also just load a couple of different instances with different articulations. The reason is partially because Soundpaint has notes on every key, so the keyswitches obstruct that. But its also a more personal thing for me. The keyboard is the only place we have to make music in the computer. So by banning keyswitches (at least for now) - we (as developers) are forced to try to find other solutions. For example that you can just play polyphonic legato like a piano - or you get 127 discrete velocity layers both on modwheel and velocity based instruments. But thats just my take on it - and it does seem like the community wants keyswitches, so we will probably add them relatively soon. I just won't be using them myself for the reasons stated above. Cheers, Troels
@@Soundpaintmusic I see, thanks for the response. Maybe BRSO articulate for fl studio will come in handy.. I'll experiment :) keep up your awesome work.
@@Soundpaintmusic Hi Troels - I would think that if you had to add key switches, the best way to please everybody would be to make them optional (on or off), and assignable to whatever keys you want. Of course that might be a huge programing chore.
@@BourkeMedia Agreed. Keyswitch integration will be available in our next update - much like you describe.
Really impressive! Do you plan to do some instruments one might want to use in a score?
They are going to port a lot of the orchestral samples they recorded at Zlin stage. So expect to see new libraries that are based on their current 8Dio Century-, Legion- and CAGE-series (to name but a few).
@@TemmeSikkema I guess now that H.A.L has been created we can expect a lot of new instruments that utilise legato articulation. I. Cannot. Wait! :)
You know ... I agree with you, but it is strange in Soundpaint - cause even things that aren't conventional - can suddenly become so. Begins at 14:06 Cheers - T
Bravo ! 👏👏👏
Remarkably warm and organic. I cannot begin to imagine what H.A.L, can do to bring Jaco alive (hint.hint.fretless.plz)
I loooooove fretless - and will certainly get one in SP too! Cheers, T