Big Tire Problems - Watch Before Buying Bigger Tires For Your Toyota 4Runner/Tacoma

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  • @Ashoud_Anobetah
    @Ashoud_Anobetah Рік тому +14

    Man I keep it stock and it's been an awesome 500k for me with original cv joints.. no lift.. no stress .. no issues

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  Рік тому

      Word!!

    • @tonyisme4934
      @tonyisme4934 2 місяці тому +1

      Same Here....Keep 31" with aggressive Tread. I have Firestones. Orig CV Joints, the gears like them.

  • @crisg.5766
    @crisg.5766 3 роки тому +36

    Hands down the best big tire upgrade video ever. Super detailed. Subbed!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Welcome!! Thanks bud.

  • @Joe-Mamasixtyninefourtwenty
    @Joe-Mamasixtyninefourtwenty 6 місяців тому +5

    Thanks, anybody thinking about lifting their trucks should watch this video. You do a good job explaining the pros and cons, and for me the cons far outweigh the pros!
    Ill be sticking to 265s on the oem alloys probably forever. These trucks are insanely capable in stock form. Nunerous videos confirm this and so do my own personal experiences. Maybe ill beef up to a 285 narrow one day, but that set would be for OHV trails only.
    97 4runner sr5, 4x4 5speed manual. 204k still running great.
    Thanks for saving me money and time by making this video!!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  6 місяців тому

      Mine was plenty capable in the 32” config

  • @lilimaiii
    @lilimaiii 3 роки тому +16

    These big wheels gonna look gangsta on my minicamper van. 😂

  • @JDye-youtube
    @JDye-youtube 3 роки тому +52

    Great video that lays out the true cost for 95% to drive around on the pavement after spending $10k to ruin the most dependable suv ever made.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +9

      Guilty... lol

    • @MichaelBrown-wx6zq
      @MichaelBrown-wx6zq Рік тому +3

      Ruin? Lmao somebody doesn't understand continuous improvement

    • @Joe-Mamasixtyninefourtwenty
      @Joe-Mamasixtyninefourtwenty 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@MichaelBrown-wx6zqits not an improvement if its causes increased strain on all of the steering components, ball joints, wheel bearings decreased mpg, non existent towing capacity. Big tires look cool but do little other than please the eye. 95% of jeeps,4runners and other 4x4s on the roads see paved roadways only.
      UNLESS, you actually wheel your truck full time, keeping oversized tires on the truck full time just screams mall crawler. This is coming from someone whos 4runner goes from highways to rutted out farm roads and multiple creek crossings to check my cattle daily, the big tire thing is a waste of money as he mentioned
      My stock 265s have been more than adequate. I have never once thought i needed the extra ground clearance, thats why skid plates are equipped from the factory. The japanese who engineered these things got it right the first time.
      If you REALLY have to increase tire size id go no bigger than 285, and keep the tire thickness to a more "pizza cutter" narrow profile. This is all just my humble opinion and experience. But hey, i get it. The loaded down overlander trucks do look really sick, but in reality i chuckle every time i see one because i know its all for show.
      Quality rubber, correctly fitted for your application, oem diff lock, and a winch mounted from the factory bumper and youre going to be able to get in some super remote places and still get back home. Without breaking the bank or sacrificing reliablity and longevity either.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  6 місяців тому

      @josefberns2923 100%

    • @Nessal83
      @Nessal83 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Joe-MamasixtyninefourtwentyAmen. These vehicles in stock form are more capable than 99.9999% of these brolanders. My 1st gen 4x4 tacoma is almost all stock with only a 1" lift that really only brings it back to OE height could make it anywhere that these decked out brolanders could go. I'd venture to say that there are trails that I can make it through stock where they struggle. Throw a set of good skids on and some AT and you're good to go.

  • @jaymoar3561
    @jaymoar3561 3 роки тому +5

    Dang man you’re so smart, all your channels are so well put with so much great info. Thank you for the content. 🙏

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the compliments. Just doing it on my free time and helping people for a little bit of ad money :)

  • @ajmpatriot4899
    @ajmpatriot4899 Рік тому +1

    Nice info!
    I just bought stock size tires (265/65/17) for my 2005 4-runner.
    I put them on 8.5” rims with a zero offset.
    There’s the slightest rub on the passenger side on the mud flap. Very slight when at full turn only.
    Rubber on plastic, very slight, only on a hard turn so it’s good.
    Great video!

  • @leonmoorenatureexperience
    @leonmoorenatureexperience 3 роки тому +23

    It’s been a while since you posted? Always great to watch you content.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +7

      haha yeah sorry. I kinda got lazy and been busy with work lol. Hope you enjoyed this one!

  • @AmbientShades
    @AmbientShades 2 роки тому +3

    A lot of good points I hadn't put much thought into before. Much appreciated!

  • @RocknOverlanding
    @RocknOverlanding 2 роки тому +2

    Nice video - wish I would have found it years ago - before I started working on my 3rd gen!! But all the upgrades and “adjustments “ you mention - I figured out the hardest lol - now I love my ride!!!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому +1

      I love mine too!! Lol

  • @vincentwheeler2727
    @vincentwheeler2727 2 роки тому +3

    great short to the point tire upgrade video. just bought my first yota and looking to do tire and rim upgrade first. thanks for the info

  • @apache1120
    @apache1120 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the honest update, some people don't like to talk about the downsides when they spend a lot on customizations.
    Me personally I like customizing my vehicles and I do a lot of research to learn about the pros and cons of a modification.
    Some.
    At the end of the day if the owner know and is willing to live with the cons thats all that matter

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      Lol I keep it real. My mpg isn’t loving me lolll

  • @OverlandPNW
    @OverlandPNW 2 роки тому +3

    Great video. I'm running 34s now, BF Goodrich T/A K02 315/70R17. It was definitely a bit of work to get them to fit!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      Yes they are! Your 4runner looks awesome!! I would love a 5th gen for my channel hehe. Prices are too insane :)

  • @cacog35
    @cacog35 3 роки тому +12

    Great video. I just went through my own internal debate over which tires to run, and ended up picking something very different from what I had initially thought would be best. I knew I wanted to avoid re-gearing, so I didn't want to go larger than a 33 but what really ended up being the deciding factor for me was weight, a big consideration with any 3rd gen. My original plan was to keep the 5th gen oem trail wheels I've been running and use a 265/70R17 KO2, that setup has a total weight of 85.5lbs per wheel... yikes! I ended up reverting back to the 3rd gen oem 5 star wheel and running a 265/75R16 Wrangler Ultraterrain AT, total weight per wheel is 61.5lbs. 24lbs per wheel delta or nearly a hundred pounds of unsprung mass overall. There is a huge jump in tire weight between load range SL and load range C or E, and the larger tires are not available in SL. Your tire needs may be different if you're still trying to tow or primarily use your truck for off-road. I'm not and my 4runner is still at least 80% used for commuting/mall crawling.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Nice lol. These E loads are definitely heavier! Even when I moved to wildpeak at3w, it was a huge change in weight compared to my stock cooper at3 tires. Smiles per gallons!!

  • @KaskadeHD
    @KaskadeHD 3 роки тому +4

    Lots to consider here! Thanks for the video :)

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching!! Definitely a lot to consider!

  • @MrJohnnyb234
    @MrJohnnyb234 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Mr. you gave me all the answer to my questions.

  • @eljefeslash
    @eljefeslash 3 роки тому +8

    Thanks for this - it's very timely content for me. I've been looking at upgrading and knew about some of the issues with trimming, etc., but hadn't even thought of the impact on the steering rack and some other things you mentioned. Thought about upgrading to 17" rims, but then the tires are more expensive, etc., so I'm just swapping out my 16" stock SR5 6-spokes with some Limited 5-spokes (for a different look), and I may throw some M/T's on for a beefier look (but then, again, I hadn't thought about the extra weight and stress of those like you mentioned). Just not sure whether to stick with 265/75/16 or go a little wider with 285/75/16. I want to get the Cooper STT Pros, but due to the price, I may compromise with a set of Cooper Evolutions.
    BTW, I checked out a couple of your personal finance posts as well. Two of my fav things: 4Runners and Finance.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +2

      Lol definitely a lot of consider. I think 33s are fine if you got 4.3 gears. If you get muds, it’ll be a slug like mine, especially with 4.10 gears. 32s are great and least amount of work (not to mention cheaper tires). Kinda depends what you want out of your 4runner lol. My 32s never let me down before. Definitely been throwing lots of money at getting these 34s running decent.
      Finance is how i afford stuff!! Thanks for watching over there too lol.

  • @thomassanio8745
    @thomassanio8745 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video. You point out what most people don’t even consider, wear and tear on drivetrain combined with worse mileage. I have luckily found a 2000 Limited with factory rear locked and 4.30:1 stock gears. I want to do a mild suspension lift and maybe slightly larger tires but nothing that will require cutting, chopping up wheel wells. Can you recommend a 2 inch suspension, not spacer lift that will stiffen things up for riding better when loaded up? Thinking of eventually running a 23 Zero soft sided RTT that weighs 135 lbs and of course a rack, probably a Sherpa. I also like the stock aluminum rims so want to continue to run them. Thanks! Tom in Arizona.

  • @khammoonkaleb7636
    @khammoonkaleb7636 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you! All your videos have been helpful!

  • @keep10fingersoff
    @keep10fingersoff Рік тому +2

    Great job on all your 4Runner videos! Your Top Shelf!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  Рік тому

      Thanks bud but I’m just a normal dude that bought a 4runner haha

  • @bushcraftnorthof6012
    @bushcraftnorthof6012 3 роки тому +5

    Great video. Love your channel name. Yeah, even with my lift, I’m sticking with my 265/70R17 AT’s. Does all the things! Subbed. Looking forward to watching more from you. Excellent presentation style. Take care!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Thanks for tuning in!!

    • @raygan8940
      @raygan8940 3 роки тому

      Hey buddy what brand are they? What rims?

    • @bushcraftnorthof6012
      @bushcraftnorthof6012 3 роки тому

      @@raygan8940 265/70/17 Falken Wildpeak AT3W’s on factory Tacoma rims.

  • @hdoglesby
    @hdoglesby 2 роки тому +1

    This is awesome. Great presentation, no pretentiousness. It's funny how we get a stock car/truck, then buy bigger wheels and tires and then build the car/truck around that.

  • @oldschoolisnewschool
    @oldschoolisnewschool 3 роки тому +4

    Finaly a new video.
    Nice. Thank you.

  • @gsmhikerdude
    @gsmhikerdude 3 роки тому +4

    Really good video. Well thought out.

  • @todddiehl7252
    @todddiehl7252 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for another great video keep on wheelen

  • @Ashoud_Anobetah
    @Ashoud_Anobetah 3 роки тому +5

    good video, glad you mentioned the gas mileage concerns, everyone wants to go offroad but get corolla gas mileage :)

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      lol yeah. Smiles per gallon haha. Even in my prius, I drive it like a rental and get like 30-35mpg lol.

  • @fotomotoxxiii
    @fotomotoxxiii 3 роки тому +5

    You have excellent 4runner content I just subbed. Thanks for posting and I always tell people not to go over 265/75/16 on these rigs to keep problems down to a minimum and not to go over 2 inch lift.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      You are spot on my man! 265/70/17 or 265/75/16 with 2” lift is the best of all worlds lol. Especially for overlanders

    • @fotomotoxxiii
      @fotomotoxxiii 3 роки тому +1

      @@subtegral if you do it right and get all the issues that come with going bigger addressed then you're ok. It's not just throw on big tires and go.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      I do it for the fans lol.

    • @MF-rw3rb
      @MF-rw3rb 3 роки тому +1

      @@PhoRunner that extra inch from 2" to 3" doesn't sound like much in terms of clearance, but I imagine it adds several degrees to approach, breakover, and departure angles.
      My 3rd gen gets 800 miles a week as a delivery truck. But every weekend we are on the trails... beat up obsolete forest service and logging roads.. Tough decisions!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Definitely scraping less now!!

  • @goodviibes8573
    @goodviibes8573 3 роки тому +13

    I got 31’s on a 16 in wheel with a -12 offset. I did the pinch weld mod. It doesn’t rub unless I’m super articulated, so I’m in the clear 80-90% of the time. I’m very happy with how they look and they perform.. They pop out perfect 🤩 I’m also running a stock lift on a 99 limited.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +4

      31s are stock, they shouldn’t rub at all. I guess you got custom wheel offset so maybe a little on that pinch. Nice

    • @goodviibes8573
      @goodviibes8573 3 роки тому +1

      @@PhoRunner Okay that’s makes sense. I actually looked at my tires and realized I have 265 75 r16. So I guess that makes them 31.5 ?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah those are often referred to as 32” tires. Exactly what I was saying in my video lol.

    • @goodviibes8573
      @goodviibes8573 3 роки тому

      @@PhoRunner oh okay, I must have fell asleep lol I tend to doze off watching UA-cam a lot 😴

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      32s should fit fine. 33 and up will be problematic

  • @justinkostelecky6201
    @justinkostelecky6201 2 роки тому +3

    Great video, I always watch this when I think about jumping to 33’s haha. I saw a nearly stock 4Runner with like 31’s or 32’s and he had Elockers front and rear. That thing kept up with the big tire rigs all day long. I think lockers are the best bang for your buck when it comes to getting further off road!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      Indeed lockers are better than tires haha. I’m testing out 32s with my 488s and realized that once you regear, you can’t run anything smaller than 33 so basically I’m stuck lol

    • @justinkostelecky6201
      @justinkostelecky6201 2 роки тому +3

      @@PhoRunner I thought about it, but I like my skinny 235/85’s. They’re fairly cheap and lots of options. I think twin locked with 32’s are the ticket with the stock 4.30’s gears!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      4:30 are great

  • @colinjames2383
    @colinjames2383 3 роки тому +2

    Good energy ! Thanks

  • @eggamyer3371
    @eggamyer3371 Рік тому +1

    Very quick and detailed thank you!

  • @Arthur-Silva
    @Arthur-Silva 28 днів тому

    Very helpful, thank you!

  • @wim0104
    @wim0104 3 роки тому +5

    keeping it real, awesome video!

  • @4lifersbbbyimissyousoooomu715
    @4lifersbbbyimissyousoooomu715 27 днів тому

    Very informative, thank you 🙏🏾

  • @jordanyoung3073
    @jordanyoung3073 3 роки тому +4

    Great video thanks

  • @cinderd889
    @cinderd889 2 роки тому +2

    Parked next to a stock runner just to flex. You my guy have my respect

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      Lmao… that was a random photo I found lol

  • @WoodcockFamilyOverland
    @WoodcockFamilyOverland 3 роки тому +6

    I’ve just gone with 265/75/R16 Cooper STT pros with an OME lift, they still perform and look a whole lot better than stock and I don’t have the headache of cutting and trimming and the rest of the issues. Buuuttt big wheels do look cool! 😎

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Lol don’t upgrade those tires any bigger unless you like some of my pros I mentioned lmao

    • @WoodcockFamilyOverland
      @WoodcockFamilyOverland 3 роки тому +3

      @@PhoRunner I think we all know the biggest reason we do these things (however much we argue it’s better off road) is because it looks cool 🤣 🤣 🤣

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Lmao true story

    • @RedRabbit4230
      @RedRabbit4230 6 місяців тому

      I used to run the Same tires but I had 285/75/17 on my 4x4 4runner and 285/70/17 on my 4x4 Tacoma, while on my older 86 4x4 Toyota pick up I run 325/70/16=37×12.50×16

  • @scottdunn1371
    @scottdunn1371 11 місяців тому +3

    Awesome video. I have been debating about going bigger. This give me lots to think about. My 31” KO2’s with a 3” lift and sliders have taken me to most of the places I want in CO and Moab. Maybe skid plates are more bang for the buck than 33’s??

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  7 місяців тому

      32s at least for 3” lift. That way it looks proportional

  • @FishermanATX
    @FishermanATX 3 роки тому +5

    Great feedback man. I got a Tacoma with 32" tires with wheels with 0 offset and I couldn't be happier ☺

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Nice lol. If it looks sweet, don’t change it

  • @willlenoir1314
    @willlenoir1314 3 роки тому +2

    Smiles per gallon! Love it. I'm on 33s. I had 35s on my old Jeep and just didn't want to sacrifice the road performance (95% of the driving) for the off-road (maybe 5% of the driving) that I saw with the Jeep. I will concede that the 35s look cooler, but I can still get to most places I'm going to in Big Bend with the 33s. I added a 3in Rough Country lift kit (~$280) and now the only rubbing I have with the 33s (A/T LT285/75R16) has been in the right fender well when fully flexed (probably the washer fluid box), but it rarely happens.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Nice lol. 35s look good on a jeep.

  • @olegboiar2548
    @olegboiar2548 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the video PhoRunner, good info! Tell us please, how do you fit manual front lock hubs to the 4Runner? did you had to do some mods for that? I am curious

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Just find a tacoma with it, it basically fits in there. I have another video showing the build and talk about it in there! Check it out!

  • @andynonymous2164
    @andynonymous2164 3 роки тому +14

    Great stuff. Thanks for taking the time to do it. Few notes from someone with recent experience. Your lift and bumper prices are very conservative. 285s are closer to 33" than 34". I had no problem fitting a 285 AT tire in the stock spare location.
    Just a few notes because I know people use these videos for research when considering mods. I know I did.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +3

      Nice. My 32 barely fit down there haha I’m surprised a 33 will fit. Maybe my hitch receiver.
      285/70 are closer to 33s. 285/75 are 34s.

    • @andynonymous2164
      @andynonymous2164 3 роки тому +1

      @@PhoRunner oh. I have 70s. Got you.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      No worries. The 75 isn’t that comment on 17s ;)

  • @cferguson131218
    @cferguson131218 3 роки тому +3

    Upgrade happening this weekend 35” falkens a/t’s, btf fabrication long travel, mcneil fenders, new oem lbj’s and outer tie rods

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Lol nice.

    • @earlybirdxx
      @earlybirdxx 2 роки тому

      How did it turn out?? Im about to do something similar

  • @triedandtrue1820
    @triedandtrue1820 3 роки тому +9

    Good review, the one inch body lift is cheap and can help fit for clearance issues, less trimming. Ive had BL before, don't like them but have a purpose. I have 285/75r16, tundra coils 5100, lots of room.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Good point! I knew i forgot to talk about some things. Body lift is definitely an option and cheap!

    • @Antho2529
      @Antho2529 3 роки тому

      how much lift you got? I have tundra Bilstein's with SPC UCA but only have 2" suspension lift. Is a 1-2" body lift nice to have for 34's? Currently planning for 3" suspension + 2" body lift

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      That’ll allow you to run 35s

    • @kendrick153
      @kendrick153 2 роки тому

      I have same size tires, are you able to fit 285/75r16 in the stock spare area?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      Nope… too big

  • @jamesrockford6416
    @jamesrockford6416 Рік тому

    Love your video clips ❤️
    From T.O
    Mine is 02 with 150k miles or 260000km all stock.

  • @redgreen610
    @redgreen610 2 роки тому +2

    This video made me content to enjoy my 4runner as it was engineered. I need the limited towing ability it has stock for my ski boat. Have been fantasizing about 1st gen Sequoia with 4.7 V8. Those things get only 13 - 17 mpg but they will tow and they can handle a lift and larger tires. My 4runner will squeak out 22 mpg towing a small off road tear drop. Good enough. 10 mpg costs a lot more money over the years. By the way, accumulation is my motto. I'd never sell my 4runner, but I may add to the family!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      It’s definitely capable as is. Some better all terrain tires won’t hurt!

  • @mikeh2832
    @mikeh2832 2 роки тому +2

    thanks for that wow, lots of things I didnt consider

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      No worries at all!! I kinda knew all these things but I had to do a lot of research. Figure I’d make one video outlining it all lol

  • @bendover1009
    @bendover1009 Рік тому +3

    Oh wow! I can safely say you have successfully talked me out of lifting my 3rd gen 4runner

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  Рік тому

      Noooo lol. It’s fun still. Don’t let me discourage you haha

    • @dackpinyang8422
      @dackpinyang8422 Рік тому

      😆 🤣 😂 same here!! Ill keep it stock!!

  • @cameronnorton5898
    @cameronnorton5898 3 роки тому +2

    I offroad my 4runner occaisionally but it's on the road 95% of the time. I left it stock height and wheel size. I do have upgraded shocks and quick disconnect sway bar for a bit more travel though.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Everyone’s 4runner is on road 95% unless it’s a trailer queen! Lol

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 2 роки тому +3

    I have 35 inch tires on my 97 and defenitly brings more smiles have 33s on my 2000 limited and have a stock 2000 sr5 they all are for different purposes but there all fun

  • @mannyg9059
    @mannyg9059 3 роки тому +3

    If you are not mechanically inclined and lack deep pockets but only want to buy big tires because they look "cool" you're in for a rude awakening. I owned a K-5 4x4 with all of the bells and whistles for street and off roading. I could have bought a Bentley or Lambo with all of the the money I dropped on her. I started with tires and lifts as most do. The return on investment for tire modifications is really not worth the headaches. Listen to Pho Runner he is on point, but it's your world, I'm just living in it.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Haha true story!! Running 37/40s is even crazier lol

  • @johnmckenna4256
    @johnmckenna4256 2 роки тому +2

    This is great!

  • @yazming1720
    @yazming1720 2 роки тому +2

    Great Video 💯💪💯💪. Ever since your Video fixed my gas Gauge DEFINITELY
    SMILES PER Gallon 😁

  • @nate-beard
    @nate-beard 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks! Always appreciate your videos. I'm stock '02, and would love to do a 2" lift with 265/70/17 or 265/75/16.... What 2" lift set up would you recommend for cheap? B's 5100's and what springs? (I'll probably pay someone to install. lol) Should I just buy a whole kit from Wheelers or something? Thanks again!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Ome 906/880 is what I ran before. Wheelers is reputable

  • @j.8319
    @j.8319 2 роки тому +2

    Your videos are always very educational but I still can’t get over the fact of how innocent you look, like as if you’re still a teenager, and that’s coming from someone that’s still only 19 😂 seriously remind me of someone I graduated with

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      Lol… I’m an old man 36 hahaha

  • @leonmoorenatureexperience
    @leonmoorenatureexperience 3 роки тому +25

    I was in two mind on whether I should upgrade to 17” Rims. I was worried about exactly what you talked about in terms of putting more pressure on Transmassion, engine etc. So I ended up getting the TRD 16 and some new all terrain BFGoodridch tires to go with it.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +4

      I think 16" is better since tires are more common. 17" is becoming more and more popular though I noticed.

    • @d.b.cooper
      @d.b.cooper 3 роки тому +5

      5th gen comes with 17” wheels stock.

    • @bobgraham303
      @bobgraham303 Рік тому +1

      @@d.b.cooper 4th gen does too as an option.

    • @jmoonies_racing2642
      @jmoonies_racing2642 Рік тому +1

      i got 17" and that's why im here ... i rub if im at like full turn :(

    • @lalok9912
      @lalok9912 Рік тому +1

      Finally someone that speak out the true about Biggers tires thank you

  • @andrewalvarado1739
    @andrewalvarado1739 2 роки тому +1

    Hey, don't you have a video where you go into detail about the tundra brake upgrade? Thanks for the videos, homie! Much appreciated.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      I do not but I do show some of it in my manual hub part 2 video :)

  • @DivideByeZer0
    @DivideByeZer0 3 роки тому +8

    I tried some KO2 33s on my 3gen4R when I first lifted it 3in. I love how it looked and the stance was amazing BUT the power loss was not worth it for me. My 4R is my daily driver and I don't go off roading as much as I'd like to. I do want to supercharge it or do a motor swap eventually. I just got some 265/75/16 KO2s, I'm very happy with those. They may not be as wide or look as good but I love how it drives. I am going to get a new set of wheels eventually and get some 33s again so I can switch them when I want but not a priority right now. I'm about to do the tundra brake upgrade. Then in a few weeks I'm taking a road trip to Oklahoma.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Yeah power lost kinda sucks. I miss my 32” setup hehe

    • @hoonyur5973
      @hoonyur5973 2 роки тому +1

      Did you re-gear your diffs to account for the bigger tires?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      I didn’t but soon!!!

    • @hoonyur5973
      @hoonyur5973 2 роки тому

      @@PhoRunner that’s the missing link to getting your power back😉

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      Lol load range e isn’t helping!!

  • @pjc4425
    @pjc4425 3 роки тому +2

    265/75 R16 with small lift works for me on my 96 Limited.
    My affordable lift that looks good comfy ride = Total cost 500.00
    2-3/8" Rear lift - ARB 2906 Old man Emu coils with 3/8 spacers.
    Rough Country N3 rear shocks.
    2" Front lift - strong off wall brand strut combo providing 1" lift over stock height.
    On top of that I installed 0.5 " Spacers with 1/8" lean Spacer on driver side.
    Front and rear settled close to 1/4" filling in wheel wells making 265/75 the perfect fit.
    The 3/8 rake looks great!
    Very easy off roading of course , I'm not pushing limit.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      I agree!!! Most aren’t going insane so this 2” is most practical and looks great. Won’t break the bank like I’m doing on getting my 34s to run hehe

    • @pjc4425
      @pjc4425 3 роки тому +1

      @@PhoRunner Right on.
      I came so close to making your moves over year ago pulling back last minute.
      Going my rout was challenging though.
      I ended up pulling ARBs twice triming down Daystar spacers for rear leveling & rake.
      Started @ 1" - 0.5 to 3/8.
      End result was 0.5 spacer on driver side to accommodate extra gas tank weight & 3/8 on passenger.
      On front
      Like many, I didn't factor in driver side taco lean.
      Having to go back & add 1/8 lean spacer was wicked pain lol.
      Anyway your rig looks outstanding!
      Thanks for sharing experience-what to expect.
      It will help many.

  • @micksadventures7958
    @micksadventures7958 3 роки тому +3

    I remember that MPG drop after lift and tire upgrades😁👍🏻🇺🇸

  • @MCgrease08
    @MCgrease08 Рік тому +1

    Saved the real reason for the end. Nice.

  • @christophermartinez5314
    @christophermartinez5314 3 роки тому +2

    Great video

  • @hugoovalle8734
    @hugoovalle8734 3 роки тому +4

    I still have my 15" rims and they run good even on snow

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Definitely. Regular snow roads should be fine. Just the thicker unpaved stuff will be tough to plow through and that’s where bigger tires help to avoid dragging.

  • @wealthyblackman2655
    @wealthyblackman2655 Рік тому +1

    Very informative video

  • @shaunmilor
    @shaunmilor 3 роки тому +3

    I have a supercharger with the urd 7th injector kit.. with my 33's my fuel mileage dropped to 7-10mpg. I do all my driving up around auberry/shaver.All mtn div I now dropped down to a 32 and have been getting around 10-12 mpg in the mountains. I have the 5 speed manual and push the truck hard, so the smiles per gallon are worth it.. with the supercharger the 33's and stock gears I could get the truck up to 90mph going up the 4lanes starting the pull after the first turn..with the 32's it almost cracks 100mph.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Nice. What gears do you have. That 5sp definitely helps!

    • @shaunmilor
      @shaunmilor 3 роки тому +1

      @@PhoRunner 4.10 gears. thats the same as you right?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      I have 4.30 gears in mine. The lockers on 3rd gen are 4.30 gears factory.

  • @Winterbark
    @Winterbark Рік тому +1

    i have the 97 in a 2.7 (4cylinder). city and town, the MPG is hot garbage. on the highway doing 55mph i easily hit 500 miles on a factory 18.5 gal tank. so these truck are actually decent on fuel, just have to consider the alterations. i am abusing a set of centerlines. tires are 275/60/R15. so a much wider stance, arguably more "traction". other than that its all factory, and i could not be happier. my little 4runner just smashed though 330k miles and its still going pretty well. i did the alternator like a year ago. i am the 2nd or 3rd owner. i really like these trucks.

  • @SakibLH44
    @SakibLH44 2 роки тому +2

    wow sweet 3rd gen man, looks beautiful

  • @scubbarookie
    @scubbarookie 3 роки тому +3

    I finally got my Dobinsons IMS shocks and springs installed. I also did the steering rack, and sway bar bushings with Energy Suspension. The front diff was treated with a Sonoran Steel diff drop kit; but the CV's are still slinging grease! Maybe it's the original boots... 334,400 miles later! Lol. The LCA's have Whiteline bushings, with the setting full out rear, and full in front... UCA's are the new SPC's on the D setting... Do you think I'll have issues with 285/75 R16's? These would be on the stock 3spit that you had as well... I do plan on getting different wheels, but at a later date. Also, what do you suggest on the CV's? I also plan on changing out the needle bearing on the front diff passenger side as recommended. Thank you for all your help brother, I highly respect your opinions and suggestions! 👍🛣🏞🗻🏕🌄🏜🌌

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      It’ll hit the control arm with those split 6. My trd pros are prettty close and that’s with more negative offset than those split 6. Expect to run 3/4” spacers or find some limited wheels as I think those have very similar offset as trd pro wheels (I measured despite what the specs say)

  • @jmoonies_racing2642
    @jmoonies_racing2642 Рік тому

    I bought a 2000 sr5 2wd it has 17’s on it with the stock rotors for 15 inch. I didn’t do tundra upgrade but I did go to powerstop.. hope it lasts ..

  • @Booger_hook
    @Booger_hook 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the informative video. I just bought a 2002 4Runner with 270/70-17 tires. I have a 2” lift on order, but I’m still trying to figure out spare tire storage. I’d like to use the OEM spare location, but the tow hitch has to be removed. Do you know of an aftermarket hitch that would accommodate a larger spare?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      I think that tire size will fit down there but just barely

  • @ryanjacobsen9557
    @ryanjacobsen9557 3 роки тому +2

    Sweet ride man I have a 4th gen I liked it cuz of the center locking diff I then did upgraded Axel's onboard compressor and ARB air lockers front and rear OME 2" extreme overload rear springs also have a RTT on top rear strike bumper dual swing outs ARB safari snorkel sealed electronics vented high tranny t case and diffs in case I wanna get more than my toes get wet and ARB front bumper full length rack as well as Dometic freezer 100w solar panel and two 100Ah batteries run in parallel in the back under sub floor as camp power source completely separate from trucks power source also big deep cycle marine starting battery under hood with oversize alternator all Baja designs lights the list goes on lololol about 20k in extras

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому +1

      lolll that was quite a read and WOW! that's legit

    • @ryanjacobsen9557
      @ryanjacobsen9557 2 роки тому

      @@PhoRunner it's a addiction lol

  • @marwingarcia5162
    @marwingarcia5162 2 роки тому +2

    Nice 4Runner🔥 I like your little black fender flares! How can I get them? Thanks!

  • @bryantr.7787
    @bryantr.7787 3 роки тому +11

    I really like my 33s I feel like that’s the sweet spot for the 3rd gens. But down the road I definitely want some 35s once I find the money to do it properly that is lol

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Lol it’s a big upgrade!

    • @johnmadsen37
      @johnmadsen37 3 роки тому

      Curious. Why do you believe you need 35s?

    • @bryantr.7787
      @bryantr.7787 3 роки тому +1

      @@johnmadsen37 mainly because I think they look good but it’ll give me better clearance off-road as well

    • @johnmadsen37
      @johnmadsen37 3 роки тому +2

      @@bryantr.7787 A lot of people mess up their vehicles just going after appearance versus functionality that they’ll never use. But those are also the guys that put the thousand dollar spoilers on their $1500 vehicle. Bad at math and superficial and it shows.

    • @bryantr.7787
      @bryantr.7787 3 роки тому +1

      @@johnmadsen37 correct, but I off road my 4Runner. I take it on trails and to the dunes. The reason I say mainly for looks is because I don’t need 35s but I like the way they look but if it helps me off-road that’s a huge bonus. Once I get to the modification though I’ll make sure to do it properly so my runner doesn’t run like crap lol

  • @bigbro_pinoy
    @bigbro_pinoy 3 роки тому +3

    Nice video you've got. So I'm debating between supercharge and re-gear. My only concern is a better crawling capability. Any tips is much appreciated.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Hmmm I’m leaning towards supercharger since it has better resaleability lol. It’s diyable job too. The gearing seems fine where it’s at for mine, just lacks power.
      I don’t really want to be revving 2500+ on the highway.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      @@subtegral that's where it is right now on highway driving. I did some math and didn't like what i saw with new gearing lol.

  • @tocjo
    @tocjo 2 роки тому +2

    great video!!!! the truth of big tires hahahah not just going for the "looks" , what roof rack are you using or recommend?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      I am using the rola rack and it’s served me well. I like the sherpa rack :)

  • @Antho2529
    @Antho2529 3 роки тому +2

    Planning to upgrade to the same tire size as you since my 265/75/r16 are at the end of their life. Currently running tundra bilsteins 5100 + SPC UCA on a 2"lift. Do you have a body lift? I will be lifting my rig to 3" and was wondering if a 1-2" body lift is also recommended.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      You’ll want some more lift for 34s lol. Probably 1 inch body is plenty

  • @jameslumley2463
    @jameslumley2463 2 роки тому +1

    I think the Toyota engineers were some of the best in the world. They figured things out better than I can about gearing and tires. Looking "cool" and performing correctly are two different things. Big tires dratically affect the engineering that went into these well designed vehicles.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      True statement. Overengineering allows these to hold up to those excessive mods though :)

    • @phillipblount5541
      @phillipblount5541 Рік тому +1

      @@PhoRunner Yep. I heard it said from Toyota years ago: We build trucks to last 30 years or more.........in a 3rd world country. Paraphrased of course. Best auto company in the world, IMO.

  • @Coxfame
    @Coxfame 7 місяців тому +1

    Lol. I did professionally lift my 2001 4runner 4 inch, replaced the bolt joints, steering rack and pinions, new mud tires even though not 4x4 (just for the look) yes we get the eyes turning everywhere we drive. Parts & labor about 4k. Do u have any hacks for good headlights beside leds retrofit?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  6 місяців тому

      I do not have any hacks other than retrofits

  • @alexx121212
    @alexx121212 2 роки тому +2

    Great video 👍🏽
    What size tires n lift you recommend on a 2001 4Runner ?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому

      265/70/17 or 265/75/16. Both are ~32" total

  • @PLUTON9475
    @PLUTON9475 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent

  • @147andreluiz
    @147andreluiz 2 роки тому +2

    10:17 - "cause that's why you bought those tyres hopefully"... lol

  • @d1n41el2
    @d1n41el2 3 роки тому +2

    So i bought a 3rd gen with 265/70/17’s and wheels off a trd offroad tacoma. Im going up to 285/70/17’s with beadlocks. The previous owner added a slight lift to it as well. Do you think these would fit fine? I dont mind trimming my fenders and bumper as they’re getting upgraded soon anyway. Im just not sure when to regear and what i should regear to. Also what mpg should I expect?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      You might hit the upper control arm with the tacoma wheels. Check how close it is right now and add about 1/2” to it for the wider tires.
      Probably be ok with no regear if it’s light weight all terrains

  • @california199_7
    @california199_7 3 роки тому +2

    Do you have a video how to put on the ARB bumper? I’m looking for a new bumper too.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      I don’t but Timmy the toolman does on his Channel

  • @davidzoyoquila941
    @davidzoyoquila941 3 роки тому +4

    I be looking at all stock 4runners like “damn bro you driving on pennies”

  • @nathanr25
    @nathanr25 7 місяців тому +1

    Definitely won't be getting macho nacho tires with my 97, but I did just finish doing small upgrades to it, like getting trd pro wheels, refurbishing the hitch, minor paint work, and some overall small interior refurbishment

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  7 місяців тому

      33s max tbh. I’m going with c load 33s once my tires wear down

  • @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531
    @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531 3 роки тому +7

    31's work just fine for me!

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Nothing wrong! I loved my 32” tire/2” lift setup before. Had a nice stance and practical. Went everywhere to.

    • @Joe---
      @Joe--- 3 роки тому +6

      Bigger tires are for looks, a 4runner with stock tires will perform better.

    • @davidzoyoquila941
      @davidzoyoquila941 3 роки тому +1

      @@Joe--- but you still look better 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @Joe---
      @Joe--- 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidzoyoquila941 🤦‍♂️

  • @Leomej04
    @Leomej04 3 роки тому +3

    What’s up I came across a decent deal on some Geolander tires. They’re 275/70/16 so my question is how bad would they rub on my stock runner? Would I need spacers or a lift? Thanks 🙏

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      I would get a lift. Probably be fine for daily driving.
      That’s jeep size tires I believe and wider too.

  • @steelriggins2101
    @steelriggins2101 3 роки тому +2

    Great video with lots of good information. I just recently purchased a 2000 4runner and hope to put a left and larger tires on it. I wish there were more videos that contained as much information about this subject. Thank you very much.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Nice!! Thanks!! Just sharing my experiences lol. I might make a wheel offset video in the future.

  • @moneyshift8190
    @moneyshift8190 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. Can this thing keep up on the freeway with the heavier km3??

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому +1

      I’m hesistant to pass people but it drives just fine with the regearing to 488. Uphill was a struggle with 4.3 gears

  • @Idk-vy3gi
    @Idk-vy3gi 2 роки тому +2

    Can you make a video on how to remove the rear mudflaps behind the rear wheels ? Those plastic long ones that run down the back of the tires

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому +1

      Just a couple 10mm bolts!

  • @winch43
    @winch43 4 місяці тому

    What is the maximum tire size can I put on my 2000 4Runner 2 Wheel drive without modifying any thing? Thanks in advance.

  • @TheGX47D
    @TheGX47D 3 роки тому +2

    Do you think a 17x8 or 17x9 with a 0 offset would help with clearance? I like your setup with the 34s. There's not a lot of 3rd gens that are running them. I'm planning to run 861s in the rear and 6112s in the frts. You think my COG will be ok? I know you're running LC springs in the rear as well. Also some offroad comparison with a 3rd gen with 33s would be great lol

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      Don’t quote me but I think 17x8 0 offset would be good for 285 tires. Should clear the factory upper arm even. But I’m not 100% sure. Just some theory I have based on some calculations I did lol

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому +1

      I have no idea on center of gravity but it definitely feels crazier on highway when winds are high lmao. Tbh, you should see no different in performance vs 285/70/17 lol

  • @urieljuarez2552
    @urieljuarez2552 Рік тому +1

    I just bought a 98,never had one and I’m loving it!! need new tires. What’s the best big size tire I can get away with, with out doing a lift and leaving the stock size rim.
    Thanks
    Also love your vidz! N content!

  • @bobmatson5061
    @bobmatson5061 3 роки тому +2

    I have new coastal offroad bumpers I welded and put on my 02. I have 265/70R17 and already have to run my 4runner hard up the hills. Was going to go bigger tires. I also need to add lift kit and make some sliders. I must note that I get 17mph city and 22 hwy. Why much better than u maybe I drive different like, only run
    O/D over 45 and never while climbing mtns. Basically I will still have to regear. I am thinking that everything I have to do yet is not worth the cost.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Keep that baby the way it is. That mpg is very good!!! I been thinking about a coastal myself for the rear! The list is crazy once you go up one size from where you are at as I outlined lol

  • @user-ih5tb7cg6c
    @user-ih5tb7cg6c 6 місяців тому

    I got an 05 4Runner sr5 what is the biggest tire I can run without running into to much trouble. I was thinking 33” but I really want 35”

  • @wdport3
    @wdport3 Рік тому

    Where do you get these fender flares/mud flaps? They are so thin and low profile I can’t find any like this.

  • @kevinsilverthorn5235
    @kevinsilverthorn5235 3 роки тому +5

    Nice job telling the truth

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  3 роки тому

      Thanks man. Keeping it real lol

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 2 роки тому +3

    Good video

  • @layziesoiczy
    @layziesoiczy 2 роки тому +1

    I'm planning to get a 3" lift with an 1.25 wheel spacers and I have stock 16s rim. But im planning to get new tires first cause I found out it has a nail in it. Will stock height, and getting a 265/75/r16 cause any rubbing? And will I need a new after market UCA for my new lift?

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  2 роки тому +1

      265 width is stock so you won't need new upper arms for them. It should fit decent without a lift. Might rub a little on full lock

  • @RuggedRunnerOverland
    @RuggedRunnerOverland Рік тому +1

    I recently went with 285s on a 17x8.5 -12 offset wheel on my V8 4th Gen, it seems I opened up a can of worms with the rubbing issues...not counting the additional money that will need to be spent on a spare tire carrier. I'm thinking about switching to some zero offset wheels which might fix most of the issues I'm having with the rubbing, thankfully with the V8 I haven't noticed any hit to performance of the vehicle. Although I do like the look and feel of the 285s, I do wonder if maybe I should have got a set of TRD Pro wheels and stuck with 265s to keep it simple.

    • @PhoRunner
      @PhoRunner  Рік тому +1

      Keeping it simple never killed anybody! 285s look sweet though and that v8 makes it enjoyable still