Thanks, anybody thinking about lifting their trucks should watch this video. You do a good job explaining the pros and cons, and for me the cons far outweigh the pros! Ill be sticking to 265s on the oem alloys probably forever. These trucks are insanely capable in stock form. Nunerous videos confirm this and so do my own personal experiences. Maybe ill beef up to a 285 narrow one day, but that set would be for OHV trails only. 97 4runner sr5, 4x4 5speed manual. 204k still running great. Thanks for saving me money and time by making this video!!
@@MichaelBrown-wx6zqits not an improvement if its causes increased strain on all of the steering components, ball joints, wheel bearings decreased mpg, non existent towing capacity. Big tires look cool but do little other than please the eye. 95% of jeeps,4runners and other 4x4s on the roads see paved roadways only. UNLESS, you actually wheel your truck full time, keeping oversized tires on the truck full time just screams mall crawler. This is coming from someone whos 4runner goes from highways to rutted out farm roads and multiple creek crossings to check my cattle daily, the big tire thing is a waste of money as he mentioned My stock 265s have been more than adequate. I have never once thought i needed the extra ground clearance, thats why skid plates are equipped from the factory. The japanese who engineered these things got it right the first time. If you REALLY have to increase tire size id go no bigger than 285, and keep the tire thickness to a more "pizza cutter" narrow profile. This is all just my humble opinion and experience. But hey, i get it. The loaded down overlander trucks do look really sick, but in reality i chuckle every time i see one because i know its all for show. Quality rubber, correctly fitted for your application, oem diff lock, and a winch mounted from the factory bumper and youre going to be able to get in some super remote places and still get back home. Without breaking the bank or sacrificing reliablity and longevity either.
@@Joe-MamasixtyninefourtwentyAmen. These vehicles in stock form are more capable than 99.9999% of these brolanders. My 1st gen 4x4 tacoma is almost all stock with only a 1" lift that really only brings it back to OE height could make it anywhere that these decked out brolanders could go. I'd venture to say that there are trails that I can make it through stock where they struggle. Throw a set of good skids on and some AT and you're good to go.
I got 31’s on a 16 in wheel with a -12 offset. I did the pinch weld mod. It doesn’t rub unless I’m super articulated, so I’m in the clear 80-90% of the time. I’m very happy with how they look and they perform.. They pop out perfect 🤩 I’m also running a stock lift on a 99 limited.
This is awesome. Great presentation, no pretentiousness. It's funny how we get a stock car/truck, then buy bigger wheels and tires and then build the car/truck around that.
I’ve just gone with 265/75/R16 Cooper STT pros with an OME lift, they still perform and look a whole lot better than stock and I don’t have the headache of cutting and trimming and the rest of the issues. Buuuttt big wheels do look cool! 😎
I used to run the Same tires but I had 285/75/17 on my 4x4 4runner and 285/70/17 on my 4x4 Tacoma, while on my older 86 4x4 Toyota pick up I run 325/70/16=37×12.50×16
Great stuff. Thanks for taking the time to do it. Few notes from someone with recent experience. Your lift and bumper prices are very conservative. 285s are closer to 33" than 34". I had no problem fitting a 285 AT tire in the stock spare location. Just a few notes because I know people use these videos for research when considering mods. I know I did.
I have 35 inch tires on my 97 and defenitly brings more smiles have 33s on my 2000 limited and have a stock 2000 sr5 they all are for different purposes but there all fun
Great video. I just went through my own internal debate over which tires to run, and ended up picking something very different from what I had initially thought would be best. I knew I wanted to avoid re-gearing, so I didn't want to go larger than a 33 but what really ended up being the deciding factor for me was weight, a big consideration with any 3rd gen. My original plan was to keep the 5th gen oem trail wheels I've been running and use a 265/70R17 KO2, that setup has a total weight of 85.5lbs per wheel... yikes! I ended up reverting back to the 3rd gen oem 5 star wheel and running a 265/75R16 Wrangler Ultraterrain AT, total weight per wheel is 61.5lbs. 24lbs per wheel delta or nearly a hundred pounds of unsprung mass overall. There is a huge jump in tire weight between load range SL and load range C or E, and the larger tires are not available in SL. Your tire needs may be different if you're still trying to tow or primarily use your truck for off-road. I'm not and my 4runner is still at least 80% used for commuting/mall crawling.
Nice lol. These E loads are definitely heavier! Even when I moved to wildpeak at3w, it was a huge change in weight compared to my stock cooper at3 tires. Smiles per gallons!!
I think the Toyota engineers were some of the best in the world. They figured things out better than I can about gearing and tires. Looking "cool" and performing correctly are two different things. Big tires dratically affect the engineering that went into these well designed vehicles.
@@PhoRunner Yep. I heard it said from Toyota years ago: We build trucks to last 30 years or more.........in a 3rd world country. Paraphrased of course. Best auto company in the world, IMO.
I was in two mind on whether I should upgrade to 17” Rims. I was worried about exactly what you talked about in terms of putting more pressure on Transmassion, engine etc. So I ended up getting the TRD 16 and some new all terrain BFGoodridch tires to go with it.
I really like my 33s I feel like that’s the sweet spot for the 3rd gens. But down the road I definitely want some 35s once I find the money to do it properly that is lol
@@bryantr.7787 A lot of people mess up their vehicles just going after appearance versus functionality that they’ll never use. But those are also the guys that put the thousand dollar spoilers on their $1500 vehicle. Bad at math and superficial and it shows.
@@johnmadsen37 correct, but I off road my 4Runner. I take it on trails and to the dunes. The reason I say mainly for looks is because I don’t need 35s but I like the way they look but if it helps me off-road that’s a huge bonus. Once I get to the modification though I’ll make sure to do it properly so my runner doesn’t run like crap lol
Your videos are always very educational but I still can’t get over the fact of how innocent you look, like as if you’re still a teenager, and that’s coming from someone that’s still only 19 😂 seriously remind me of someone I graduated with
Nice info! I just bought stock size tires (265/65/17) for my 2005 4-runner. I put them on 8.5” rims with a zero offset. There’s the slightest rub on the passenger side on the mud flap. Very slight when at full turn only. Rubber on plastic, very slight, only on a hard turn so it’s good. Great video!
265/75 R16 with small lift works for me on my 96 Limited. My affordable lift that looks good comfy ride = Total cost 500.00 2-3/8" Rear lift - ARB 2906 Old man Emu coils with 3/8 spacers. Rough Country N3 rear shocks. 2" Front lift - strong off wall brand strut combo providing 1" lift over stock height. On top of that I installed 0.5 " Spacers with 1/8" lean Spacer on driver side. Front and rear settled close to 1/4" filling in wheel wells making 265/75 the perfect fit. The 3/8 rake looks great! Very easy off roading of course , I'm not pushing limit.
@@PhoRunner Right on. I came so close to making your moves over year ago pulling back last minute. Going my rout was challenging though. I ended up pulling ARBs twice triming down Daystar spacers for rear leveling & rake. Started @ 1" - 0.5 to 3/8. End result was 0.5 spacer on driver side to accommodate extra gas tank weight & 3/8 on passenger. On front Like many, I didn't factor in driver side taco lean. Having to go back & add 1/8 lean spacer was wicked pain lol. Anyway your rig looks outstanding! Thanks for sharing experience-what to expect. It will help many.
I have a supercharger with the urd 7th injector kit.. with my 33's my fuel mileage dropped to 7-10mpg. I do all my driving up around auberry/shaver.All mtn div I now dropped down to a 32 and have been getting around 10-12 mpg in the mountains. I have the 5 speed manual and push the truck hard, so the smiles per gallon are worth it.. with the supercharger the 33's and stock gears I could get the truck up to 90mph going up the 4lanes starting the pull after the first turn..with the 32's it almost cracks 100mph.
Definitely. Regular snow roads should be fine. Just the thicker unpaved stuff will be tough to plow through and that’s where bigger tires help to avoid dragging.
I'm a guy who makes fun of the guy who spends a ton of $ and chops up a nice vehicle, and can no longer tow his boat! Excellent video showing all of the things to consider before taking the plunge into trying to make bigger tires work properly. Personally, I think the "CONS" list is way too long, which is why I went with a 2020 TRD PRO which I don't really plan on modding too much.
I tried some KO2 33s on my 3gen4R when I first lifted it 3in. I love how it looked and the stance was amazing BUT the power loss was not worth it for me. My 4R is my daily driver and I don't go off roading as much as I'd like to. I do want to supercharge it or do a motor swap eventually. I just got some 265/75/16 KO2s, I'm very happy with those. They may not be as wide or look as good but I love how it drives. I am going to get a new set of wheels eventually and get some 33s again so I can switch them when I want but not a priority right now. I'm about to do the tundra brake upgrade. Then in a few weeks I'm taking a road trip to Oklahoma.
Smiles per gallon! Love it. I'm on 33s. I had 35s on my old Jeep and just didn't want to sacrifice the road performance (95% of the driving) for the off-road (maybe 5% of the driving) that I saw with the Jeep. I will concede that the 35s look cooler, but I can still get to most places I'm going to in Big Bend with the 33s. I added a 3in Rough Country lift kit (~$280) and now the only rubbing I have with the 33s (A/T LT285/75R16) has been in the right fender well when fully flexed (probably the washer fluid box), but it rarely happens.
Great video, I always watch this when I think about jumping to 33’s haha. I saw a nearly stock 4Runner with like 31’s or 32’s and he had Elockers front and rear. That thing kept up with the big tire rigs all day long. I think lockers are the best bang for your buck when it comes to getting further off road!
Indeed lockers are better than tires haha. I’m testing out 32s with my 488s and realized that once you regear, you can’t run anything smaller than 33 so basically I’m stuck lol
@@PhoRunner I thought about it, but I like my skinny 235/85’s. They’re fairly cheap and lots of options. I think twin locked with 32’s are the ticket with the stock 4.30’s gears!
I offroad my 4runner occaisionally but it's on the road 95% of the time. I left it stock height and wheel size. I do have upgraded shocks and quick disconnect sway bar for a bit more travel though.
Nice video - wish I would have found it years ago - before I started working on my 3rd gen!! But all the upgrades and “adjustments “ you mention - I figured out the hardest lol - now I love my ride!!!
You have excellent 4runner content I just subbed. Thanks for posting and I always tell people not to go over 265/75/16 on these rigs to keep problems down to a minimum and not to go over 2 inch lift.
@@PhoRunner that extra inch from 2" to 3" doesn't sound like much in terms of clearance, but I imagine it adds several degrees to approach, breakover, and departure angles. My 3rd gen gets 800 miles a week as a delivery truck. But every weekend we are on the trails... beat up obsolete forest service and logging roads.. Tough decisions!
This video made me content to enjoy my 4runner as it was engineered. I need the limited towing ability it has stock for my ski boat. Have been fantasizing about 1st gen Sequoia with 4.7 V8. Those things get only 13 - 17 mpg but they will tow and they can handle a lift and larger tires. My 4runner will squeak out 22 mpg towing a small off road tear drop. Good enough. 10 mpg costs a lot more money over the years. By the way, accumulation is my motto. I'd never sell my 4runner, but I may add to the family!
Awesome video. I have been debating about going bigger. This give me lots to think about. My 31” KO2’s with a 3” lift and sliders have taken me to most of the places I want in CO and Moab. Maybe skid plates are more bang for the buck than 33’s??
Thanks. I don't know nothing about anything. Lots of info. I just bought a '96 & want to lift it & put on just a little bit of a bigger tire & bumpers with winch & a roof rack.
Thanks for the honest update, some people don't like to talk about the downsides when they spend a lot on customizations. Me personally I like customizing my vehicles and I do a lot of research to learn about the pros and cons of a modification. Some. At the end of the day if the owner know and is willing to live with the cons thats all that matter
Definitely won't be getting macho nacho tires with my 97, but I did just finish doing small upgrades to it, like getting trd pro wheels, refurbishing the hitch, minor paint work, and some overall small interior refurbishment
i have the 97 in a 2.7 (4cylinder). city and town, the MPG is hot garbage. on the highway doing 55mph i easily hit 500 miles on a factory 18.5 gal tank. so these truck are actually decent on fuel, just have to consider the alterations. i am abusing a set of centerlines. tires are 275/60/R15. so a much wider stance, arguably more "traction". other than that its all factory, and i could not be happier. my little 4runner just smashed though 330k miles and its still going pretty well. i did the alternator like a year ago. i am the 2nd or 3rd owner. i really like these trucks.
Thanks for this - it's very timely content for me. I've been looking at upgrading and knew about some of the issues with trimming, etc., but hadn't even thought of the impact on the steering rack and some other things you mentioned. Thought about upgrading to 17" rims, but then the tires are more expensive, etc., so I'm just swapping out my 16" stock SR5 6-spokes with some Limited 5-spokes (for a different look), and I may throw some M/T's on for a beefier look (but then, again, I hadn't thought about the extra weight and stress of those like you mentioned). Just not sure whether to stick with 265/75/16 or go a little wider with 285/75/16. I want to get the Cooper STT Pros, but due to the price, I may compromise with a set of Cooper Evolutions. BTW, I checked out a couple of your personal finance posts as well. Two of my fav things: 4Runners and Finance.
Lol definitely a lot of consider. I think 33s are fine if you got 4.3 gears. If you get muds, it’ll be a slug like mine, especially with 4.10 gears. 32s are great and least amount of work (not to mention cheaper tires). Kinda depends what you want out of your 4runner lol. My 32s never let me down before. Definitely been throwing lots of money at getting these 34s running decent. Finance is how i afford stuff!! Thanks for watching over there too lol.
I have new coastal offroad bumpers I welded and put on my 02. I have 265/70R17 and already have to run my 4runner hard up the hills. Was going to go bigger tires. I also need to add lift kit and make some sliders. I must note that I get 17mph city and 22 hwy. Why much better than u maybe I drive different like, only run O/D over 45 and never while climbing mtns. Basically I will still have to regear. I am thinking that everything I have to do yet is not worth the cost.
Keep that baby the way it is. That mpg is very good!!! I been thinking about a coastal myself for the rear! The list is crazy once you go up one size from where you are at as I outlined lol
Lol. I did professionally lift my 2001 4runner 4 inch, replaced the bolt joints, steering rack and pinions, new mud tires even though not 4x4 (just for the look) yes we get the eyes turning everywhere we drive. Parts & labor about 4k. Do u have any hacks for good headlights beside leds retrofit?
I've always wanted to modify my vehicles but this is the first one when it comes to the drivetrain and all suspension stuff including wheels and tires I'm keeping it original lol 147k on mine and plan on keeping it
@@subtegral All it has to be is capable and reliable. It's a trail truck, not a grocery getter or go-to-church vehicle. I never seem to worry about how nice my interior looks while on- trail for some reason... Alas, I'm sure Jeep would be happy to sell you a shiny new POS with fancy interior.
Always wanted bigger tires for my 06 sport! I agree it completely changes the vehicle's appearance and takes it from soccer mom vehicle to absolutely BADASS! But holy SHIT there is so much to consider and so many issues you run into / so much work needed to accomplish this holy crap!! I think il just stay stock and blend in with the rest of the soccer moms :(
Damn man I love my stock 31 tires! Also no lift so I can take my 4runner to a fancy job interview lol. I am cheap ass would never buy anything above 100 for my truck! hahaha
lol good point on the job interview. My kids probably hate it when dad brings the mall crawler to pick them up from school ;). JK they are young and still love it. I'm sure they won't when they're older lmao.
If you are not mechanically inclined and lack deep pockets but only want to buy big tires because they look "cool" you're in for a rude awakening. I owned a K-5 4x4 with all of the bells and whistles for street and off roading. I could have bought a Bentley or Lambo with all of the the money I dropped on her. I started with tires and lifts as most do. The return on investment for tire modifications is really not worth the headaches. Listen to Pho Runner he is on point, but it's your world, I'm just living in it.
Great video with lots of good information. I just recently purchased a 2000 4runner and hope to put a left and larger tires on it. I wish there were more videos that contained as much information about this subject. Thank you very much.
I *completely* agree. Upscaling the tires triggers an insane cascade of monetary/performance/longevity costs. The 4Runner becomes a bottomless money pit; but hey, you can brag to your buddies who don’t like burning their hard-earned money. Instead, when I’m ready to upgrade my 3Gen, I’ll just buy myself a LandCruiser. Don’t get me wrong, PhoRunner, I love what you do, I just can’t justify these costs 😅
I just put 33s on my '01 tacoma(stock 4:10 gears), around town it drives fine, but once I put a trailer on it the lack of acceleration and braking power was very noticeable. the only offraoding I do is on the beach, so I'm going to stick w/ the large tires but will probably add a trans cooler to be safe.
Great video. Love your channel name. Yeah, even with my lift, I’m sticking with my 265/70R17 AT’s. Does all the things! Subbed. Looking forward to watching more from you. Excellent presentation style. Take care!
Regear before you supercharge. Power is not your problem it’s gearing. Bring your rpms back into the right rang thin supercharge if you still want to. The torque is still there just not where u want it.
@@subtegral yeah I had 255/80r17 and they were great in everything but snow wheeling. And that’s one of my favorite things so it’s a deal breaker. That’s what is awesome about vehicle modifications. We all get to do our own thing that we like and is custom for us. One may think it’s “stupid” or a waste of money but guess what? If it makes you happy (and you have the finances) do it. Don’t build your vehicle for other people. But I think that was kind of the point you were making about the giant tires and stuff right?
@@subtegral Oh I see what you’re saying that makes sense. I regeared my 4runner to 4.88 when I had 32 inch tires because I tow an enclosed trailer on long camping and hunting trips over pretty big mountain passes and it was a game changer. I know most “normal people” would have just purchased a bigger vehicle but I love my 4runner lol It is everything I want in an off-road vehicle.
Sweet ride man I have a 4th gen I liked it cuz of the center locking diff I then did upgraded Axel's onboard compressor and ARB air lockers front and rear OME 2" extreme overload rear springs also have a RTT on top rear strike bumper dual swing outs ARB safari snorkel sealed electronics vented high tranny t case and diffs in case I wanna get more than my toes get wet and ARB front bumper full length rack as well as Dometic freezer 100w solar panel and two 100Ah batteries run in parallel in the back under sub floor as camp power source completely separate from trucks power source also big deep cycle marine starting battery under hood with oversize alternator all Baja designs lights the list goes on lololol about 20k in extras
Awesome video. You point out what most people don’t even consider, wear and tear on drivetrain combined with worse mileage. I have luckily found a 2000 Limited with factory rear locked and 4.30:1 stock gears. I want to do a mild suspension lift and maybe slightly larger tires but nothing that will require cutting, chopping up wheel wells. Can you recommend a 2 inch suspension, not spacer lift that will stiffen things up for riding better when loaded up? Thinking of eventually running a 23 Zero soft sided RTT that weighs 135 lbs and of course a rack, probably a Sherpa. I also like the stock aluminum rims so want to continue to run them. Thanks! Tom in Arizona.
I finally got my Dobinsons IMS shocks and springs installed. I also did the steering rack, and sway bar bushings with Energy Suspension. The front diff was treated with a Sonoran Steel diff drop kit; but the CV's are still slinging grease! Maybe it's the original boots... 334,400 miles later! Lol. The LCA's have Whiteline bushings, with the setting full out rear, and full in front... UCA's are the new SPC's on the D setting... Do you think I'll have issues with 285/75 R16's? These would be on the stock 3spit that you had as well... I do plan on getting different wheels, but at a later date. Also, what do you suggest on the CV's? I also plan on changing out the needle bearing on the front diff passenger side as recommended. Thank you for all your help brother, I highly respect your opinions and suggestions! 👍🛣🏞🗻🏕🌄🏜🌌
It’ll hit the control arm with those split 6. My trd pros are prettty close and that’s with more negative offset than those split 6. Expect to run 3/4” spacers or find some limited wheels as I think those have very similar offset as trd pro wheels (I measured despite what the specs say)
The 3.4 with 5speed usually came with 4.10 or 4.56 (rare). 3.73 and 3.91 are also available for the 3rd gen. Door jam code A02A is 3.91 ratio. Usually they are A03A (4.10) or A04A(4.30). My Canadian sr5 is 4.30 while most sr5 are 4.10. Limited (elocked) are 4.30.
I just bought a 98,never had one and I’m loving it!! need new tires. What’s the best big size tire I can get away with, with out doing a lift and leaving the stock size rim. Thanks Also love your vidz! N content!
Man I keep it stock and it's been an awesome 500k for me with original cv joints.. no lift.. no stress .. no issues
Word!!
Same Here....Keep 31" with aggressive Tread. I have Firestones. Orig CV Joints, the gears like them.
you use your truck to get to and from the grocery store??😅
@@velocity800it came out the factory like that, some people have a preference to mod or not
Just bought a 1999 limited with 190k miles, what’s normal maintenance you usually do on yours
Hands down the best big tire upgrade video ever. Super detailed. Subbed!
Welcome!! Thanks bud.
Thanks, anybody thinking about lifting their trucks should watch this video. You do a good job explaining the pros and cons, and for me the cons far outweigh the pros!
Ill be sticking to 265s on the oem alloys probably forever. These trucks are insanely capable in stock form. Nunerous videos confirm this and so do my own personal experiences. Maybe ill beef up to a 285 narrow one day, but that set would be for OHV trails only.
97 4runner sr5, 4x4 5speed manual. 204k still running great.
Thanks for saving me money and time by making this video!!
Mine was plenty capable in the 32” config
Great video that lays out the true cost for 95% to drive around on the pavement after spending $10k to ruin the most dependable suv ever made.
Guilty... lol
Ruin? Lmao somebody doesn't understand continuous improvement
@@MichaelBrown-wx6zqits not an improvement if its causes increased strain on all of the steering components, ball joints, wheel bearings decreased mpg, non existent towing capacity. Big tires look cool but do little other than please the eye. 95% of jeeps,4runners and other 4x4s on the roads see paved roadways only.
UNLESS, you actually wheel your truck full time, keeping oversized tires on the truck full time just screams mall crawler. This is coming from someone whos 4runner goes from highways to rutted out farm roads and multiple creek crossings to check my cattle daily, the big tire thing is a waste of money as he mentioned
My stock 265s have been more than adequate. I have never once thought i needed the extra ground clearance, thats why skid plates are equipped from the factory. The japanese who engineered these things got it right the first time.
If you REALLY have to increase tire size id go no bigger than 285, and keep the tire thickness to a more "pizza cutter" narrow profile. This is all just my humble opinion and experience. But hey, i get it. The loaded down overlander trucks do look really sick, but in reality i chuckle every time i see one because i know its all for show.
Quality rubber, correctly fitted for your application, oem diff lock, and a winch mounted from the factory bumper and youre going to be able to get in some super remote places and still get back home. Without breaking the bank or sacrificing reliablity and longevity either.
@josefberns2923 100%
@@Joe-MamasixtyninefourtwentyAmen. These vehicles in stock form are more capable than 99.9999% of these brolanders. My 1st gen 4x4 tacoma is almost all stock with only a 1" lift that really only brings it back to OE height could make it anywhere that these decked out brolanders could go. I'd venture to say that there are trails that I can make it through stock where they struggle. Throw a set of good skids on and some AT and you're good to go.
It’s been a while since you posted? Always great to watch you content.
haha yeah sorry. I kinda got lazy and been busy with work lol. Hope you enjoyed this one!
Parked next to a stock runner just to flex. You my guy have my respect
Lmao… that was a random photo I found lol
These big wheels gonna look gangsta on my minicamper van. 😂
Lol
I got 31’s on a 16 in wheel with a -12 offset. I did the pinch weld mod. It doesn’t rub unless I’m super articulated, so I’m in the clear 80-90% of the time. I’m very happy with how they look and they perform.. They pop out perfect 🤩 I’m also running a stock lift on a 99 limited.
31s are stock, they shouldn’t rub at all. I guess you got custom wheel offset so maybe a little on that pinch. Nice
@@PhoRunner Okay that’s makes sense. I actually looked at my tires and realized I have 265 75 r16. So I guess that makes them 31.5 ?
Yeah those are often referred to as 32” tires. Exactly what I was saying in my video lol.
@@PhoRunner oh okay, I must have fell asleep lol I tend to doze off watching UA-cam a lot 😴
32s should fit fine. 33 and up will be problematic
Upgrade happening this weekend 35” falkens a/t’s, btf fabrication long travel, mcneil fenders, new oem lbj’s and outer tie rods
Lol nice.
Great video. I'm running 34s now, BF Goodrich T/A K02 315/70R17. It was definitely a bit of work to get them to fit!
Yes they are! Your 4runner looks awesome!! I would love a 5th gen for my channel hehe. Prices are too insane :)
This is awesome. Great presentation, no pretentiousness. It's funny how we get a stock car/truck, then buy bigger wheels and tires and then build the car/truck around that.
Keeping it real lol
Dang man you’re so smart, all your channels are so well put with so much great info. Thank you for the content. 🙏
Thanks for the compliments. Just doing it on my free time and helping people for a little bit of ad money :)
I’ve just gone with 265/75/R16 Cooper STT pros with an OME lift, they still perform and look a whole lot better than stock and I don’t have the headache of cutting and trimming and the rest of the issues. Buuuttt big wheels do look cool! 😎
Lol don’t upgrade those tires any bigger unless you like some of my pros I mentioned lmao
@@PhoRunner I think we all know the biggest reason we do these things (however much we argue it’s better off road) is because it looks cool 🤣 🤣 🤣
Lmao true story
I used to run the Same tires but I had 285/75/17 on my 4x4 4runner and 285/70/17 on my 4x4 Tacoma, while on my older 86 4x4 Toyota pick up I run 325/70/16=37×12.50×16
31's work just fine for me!
Nothing wrong! I loved my 32” tire/2” lift setup before. Had a nice stance and practical. Went everywhere to.
Bigger tires are for looks, a 4runner with stock tires will perform better.
@@Joe--- but you still look better 🤷🏽♂️
@@davidzoyoquila941 🤦♂️
Great stuff. Thanks for taking the time to do it. Few notes from someone with recent experience. Your lift and bumper prices are very conservative. 285s are closer to 33" than 34". I had no problem fitting a 285 AT tire in the stock spare location.
Just a few notes because I know people use these videos for research when considering mods. I know I did.
Nice. My 32 barely fit down there haha I’m surprised a 33 will fit. Maybe my hitch receiver.
285/70 are closer to 33s. 285/75 are 34s.
@@PhoRunner oh. I have 70s. Got you.
No worries. The 75 isn’t that comment on 17s ;)
Good to know my 3rd gen isnt the only one getting 11ish mpg
Lol
I have 35 inch tires on my 97 and defenitly brings more smiles have 33s on my 2000 limited and have a stock 2000 sr5 they all are for different purposes but there all fun
Smiles per galloN!
@@PhoRunner For Sure
Great video. I just went through my own internal debate over which tires to run, and ended up picking something very different from what I had initially thought would be best. I knew I wanted to avoid re-gearing, so I didn't want to go larger than a 33 but what really ended up being the deciding factor for me was weight, a big consideration with any 3rd gen. My original plan was to keep the 5th gen oem trail wheels I've been running and use a 265/70R17 KO2, that setup has a total weight of 85.5lbs per wheel... yikes! I ended up reverting back to the 3rd gen oem 5 star wheel and running a 265/75R16 Wrangler Ultraterrain AT, total weight per wheel is 61.5lbs. 24lbs per wheel delta or nearly a hundred pounds of unsprung mass overall. There is a huge jump in tire weight between load range SL and load range C or E, and the larger tires are not available in SL. Your tire needs may be different if you're still trying to tow or primarily use your truck for off-road. I'm not and my 4runner is still at least 80% used for commuting/mall crawling.
Nice lol. These E loads are definitely heavier! Even when I moved to wildpeak at3w, it was a huge change in weight compared to my stock cooper at3 tires. Smiles per gallons!!
I think the Toyota engineers were some of the best in the world. They figured things out better than I can about gearing and tires. Looking "cool" and performing correctly are two different things. Big tires dratically affect the engineering that went into these well designed vehicles.
True statement. Overengineering allows these to hold up to those excessive mods though :)
@@PhoRunner Yep. I heard it said from Toyota years ago: We build trucks to last 30 years or more.........in a 3rd world country. Paraphrased of course. Best auto company in the world, IMO.
I was in two mind on whether I should upgrade to 17” Rims. I was worried about exactly what you talked about in terms of putting more pressure on Transmassion, engine etc. So I ended up getting the TRD 16 and some new all terrain BFGoodridch tires to go with it.
I think 16" is better since tires are more common. 17" is becoming more and more popular though I noticed.
5th gen comes with 17” wheels stock.
@@d.b.cooper 4th gen does too as an option.
i got 17" and that's why im here ... i rub if im at like full turn :(
Finally someone that speak out the true about Biggers tires thank you
I really like my 33s I feel like that’s the sweet spot for the 3rd gens. But down the road I definitely want some 35s once I find the money to do it properly that is lol
Lol it’s a big upgrade!
Curious. Why do you believe you need 35s?
@@johnmadsen37 mainly because I think they look good but it’ll give me better clearance off-road as well
@@bryantr.7787 A lot of people mess up their vehicles just going after appearance versus functionality that they’ll never use. But those are also the guys that put the thousand dollar spoilers on their $1500 vehicle. Bad at math and superficial and it shows.
@@johnmadsen37 correct, but I off road my 4Runner. I take it on trails and to the dunes. The reason I say mainly for looks is because I don’t need 35s but I like the way they look but if it helps me off-road that’s a huge bonus. Once I get to the modification though I’ll make sure to do it properly so my runner doesn’t run like crap lol
Your videos are always very educational but I still can’t get over the fact of how innocent you look, like as if you’re still a teenager, and that’s coming from someone that’s still only 19 😂 seriously remind me of someone I graduated with
Lol… I’m an old man 36 hahaha
great short to the point tire upgrade video. just bought my first yota and looking to do tire and rim upgrade first. thanks for the info
No problem!
Nice info!
I just bought stock size tires (265/65/17) for my 2005 4-runner.
I put them on 8.5” rims with a zero offset.
There’s the slightest rub on the passenger side on the mud flap. Very slight when at full turn only.
Rubber on plastic, very slight, only on a hard turn so it’s good.
Great video!
A lot of good points I hadn't put much thought into before. Much appreciated!
No prob!!
265/75 R16 with small lift works for me on my 96 Limited.
My affordable lift that looks good comfy ride = Total cost 500.00
2-3/8" Rear lift - ARB 2906 Old man Emu coils with 3/8 spacers.
Rough Country N3 rear shocks.
2" Front lift - strong off wall brand strut combo providing 1" lift over stock height.
On top of that I installed 0.5 " Spacers with 1/8" lean Spacer on driver side.
Front and rear settled close to 1/4" filling in wheel wells making 265/75 the perfect fit.
The 3/8 rake looks great!
Very easy off roading of course , I'm not pushing limit.
I agree!!! Most aren’t going insane so this 2” is most practical and looks great. Won’t break the bank like I’m doing on getting my 34s to run hehe
@@PhoRunner Right on.
I came so close to making your moves over year ago pulling back last minute.
Going my rout was challenging though.
I ended up pulling ARBs twice triming down Daystar spacers for rear leveling & rake.
Started @ 1" - 0.5 to 3/8.
End result was 0.5 spacer on driver side to accommodate extra gas tank weight & 3/8 on passenger.
On front
Like many, I didn't factor in driver side taco lean.
Having to go back & add 1/8 lean spacer was wicked pain lol.
Anyway your rig looks outstanding!
Thanks for sharing experience-what to expect.
It will help many.
Saved the real reason for the end. Nice.
Lmao
I have a supercharger with the urd 7th injector kit.. with my 33's my fuel mileage dropped to 7-10mpg. I do all my driving up around auberry/shaver.All mtn div I now dropped down to a 32 and have been getting around 10-12 mpg in the mountains. I have the 5 speed manual and push the truck hard, so the smiles per gallon are worth it.. with the supercharger the 33's and stock gears I could get the truck up to 90mph going up the 4lanes starting the pull after the first turn..with the 32's it almost cracks 100mph.
Nice. What gears do you have. That 5sp definitely helps!
@@PhoRunner 4.10 gears. thats the same as you right?
I have 4.30 gears in mine. The lockers on 3rd gen are 4.30 gears factory.
Great job on all your 4Runner videos! Your Top Shelf!
Thanks bud but I’m just a normal dude that bought a 4runner haha
I still have my 15" rims and they run good even on snow
Definitely. Regular snow roads should be fine. Just the thicker unpaved stuff will be tough to plow through and that’s where bigger tires help to avoid dragging.
good video, glad you mentioned the gas mileage concerns, everyone wants to go offroad but get corolla gas mileage :)
lol yeah. Smiles per gallon haha. Even in my prius, I drive it like a rental and get like 30-35mpg lol.
Thank you Mr. you gave me all the answer to my questions.
No problem!!
I'm a guy who makes fun of the guy who spends a ton of $ and chops up a nice vehicle, and can no longer tow his boat! Excellent video showing all of the things to consider before taking the plunge into trying to make bigger tires work properly. Personally, I think the "CONS" list is way too long, which is why I went with a 2020 TRD PRO which I don't really plan on modding too much.
Haha. I still got my 32s in the shed!!! 2020 pro in army green???
@@PhoRunner Yes sir! Had to go with the Army. Cool channel...subbed.
@@PhoRunner I see the gear, and the shirt you’re wearing, so where are the fishing vids?
Shhh
@@houla lol unfortunately, not too many fishing videos lol...
Great feedback man. I got a Tacoma with 32" tires with wheels with 0 offset and I couldn't be happier ☺
Nice lol. If it looks sweet, don’t change it
I tried some KO2 33s on my 3gen4R when I first lifted it 3in. I love how it looked and the stance was amazing BUT the power loss was not worth it for me. My 4R is my daily driver and I don't go off roading as much as I'd like to. I do want to supercharge it or do a motor swap eventually. I just got some 265/75/16 KO2s, I'm very happy with those. They may not be as wide or look as good but I love how it drives. I am going to get a new set of wheels eventually and get some 33s again so I can switch them when I want but not a priority right now. I'm about to do the tundra brake upgrade. Then in a few weeks I'm taking a road trip to Oklahoma.
Yeah power lost kinda sucks. I miss my 32” setup hehe
Did you re-gear your diffs to account for the bigger tires?
I didn’t but soon!!!
@@PhoRunner that’s the missing link to getting your power back😉
Lol load range e isn’t helping!!
Smiles per gallon! Love it. I'm on 33s. I had 35s on my old Jeep and just didn't want to sacrifice the road performance (95% of the driving) for the off-road (maybe 5% of the driving) that I saw with the Jeep. I will concede that the 35s look cooler, but I can still get to most places I'm going to in Big Bend with the 33s. I added a 3in Rough Country lift kit (~$280) and now the only rubbing I have with the 33s (A/T LT285/75R16) has been in the right fender well when fully flexed (probably the washer fluid box), but it rarely happens.
Nice lol. 35s look good on a jeep.
I always recommend downsizing to smaller tires from stock on early 4runners !
Blasphemy!
13's might be a good idea. I have 235 75's on my stock 15's and have to turn my AC off when going up a hill !
'95 SR5 3.0 V6 4WD automatic - I love it but it's underpowered.
Splurged a little I see
Great video, I always watch this when I think about jumping to 33’s haha. I saw a nearly stock 4Runner with like 31’s or 32’s and he had Elockers front and rear. That thing kept up with the big tire rigs all day long. I think lockers are the best bang for your buck when it comes to getting further off road!
Indeed lockers are better than tires haha. I’m testing out 32s with my 488s and realized that once you regear, you can’t run anything smaller than 33 so basically I’m stuck lol
@@PhoRunner I thought about it, but I like my skinny 235/85’s. They’re fairly cheap and lots of options. I think twin locked with 32’s are the ticket with the stock 4.30’s gears!
4:30 are great
I offroad my 4runner occaisionally but it's on the road 95% of the time. I left it stock height and wheel size. I do have upgraded shocks and quick disconnect sway bar for a bit more travel though.
Everyone’s 4runner is on road 95% unless it’s a trailer queen! Lol
I did the same exact lift as you, and at full flex in the rear my drive shaft rubs my gas tank skid plate, been thinking about taking a grinder to it
Interesting.
I have a 96 though, idk if there’s a difference lol
@@Copenhagendeputy shouldn't be lol... I don't wheel too hard so i might have never met those limits you have seen haha
You need a longer bump stop in the rear
Yeah this!! My arb bumper came with some nice bumps for this lol
11:05 Oh well.... I guess I will be the next person that gets laughed at around the campfire. 😁😁😁
Finaly a new video.
Nice. Thank you.
Haha welcome back sir
Nice video - wish I would have found it years ago - before I started working on my 3rd gen!! But all the upgrades and “adjustments “ you mention - I figured out the hardest lol - now I love my ride!!!
I love mine too!! Lol
3 weeks now. I need that fix.
Lmao coming soon brother
You have excellent 4runner content I just subbed. Thanks for posting and I always tell people not to go over 265/75/16 on these rigs to keep problems down to a minimum and not to go over 2 inch lift.
You are spot on my man! 265/70/17 or 265/75/16 with 2” lift is the best of all worlds lol. Especially for overlanders
@@subtegral if you do it right and get all the issues that come with going bigger addressed then you're ok. It's not just throw on big tires and go.
I do it for the fans lol.
@@PhoRunner that extra inch from 2" to 3" doesn't sound like much in terms of clearance, but I imagine it adds several degrees to approach, breakover, and departure angles.
My 3rd gen gets 800 miles a week as a delivery truck. But every weekend we are on the trails... beat up obsolete forest service and logging roads.. Tough decisions!
Definitely scraping less now!!
This video made me content to enjoy my 4runner as it was engineered. I need the limited towing ability it has stock for my ski boat. Have been fantasizing about 1st gen Sequoia with 4.7 V8. Those things get only 13 - 17 mpg but they will tow and they can handle a lift and larger tires. My 4runner will squeak out 22 mpg towing a small off road tear drop. Good enough. 10 mpg costs a lot more money over the years. By the way, accumulation is my motto. I'd never sell my 4runner, but I may add to the family!
It’s definitely capable as is. Some better all terrain tires won’t hurt!
Awesome video. I have been debating about going bigger. This give me lots to think about. My 31” KO2’s with a 3” lift and sliders have taken me to most of the places I want in CO and Moab. Maybe skid plates are more bang for the buck than 33’s??
32s at least for 3” lift. That way it looks proportional
Thanks. I don't know nothing about anything. Lots of info. I just bought a '96 & want to lift it & put on just a little bit of a bigger tire & bumpers with winch & a roof rack.
My Channel has a lot of info for you!
I remember that MPG drop after lift and tire upgrades😁👍🏻🇺🇸
Did the SPG go up
Do you have a video how to put on the ARB bumper? I’m looking for a new bumper too.
I don’t but Timmy the toolman does on his Channel
Thanks for the honest update, some people don't like to talk about the downsides when they spend a lot on customizations.
Me personally I like customizing my vehicles and I do a lot of research to learn about the pros and cons of a modification.
Some.
At the end of the day if the owner know and is willing to live with the cons thats all that matter
Lol I keep it real. My mpg isn’t loving me lolll
Definitely won't be getting macho nacho tires with my 97, but I did just finish doing small upgrades to it, like getting trd pro wheels, refurbishing the hitch, minor paint work, and some overall small interior refurbishment
33s max tbh. I’m going with c load 33s once my tires wear down
Can you make a video on how to remove the rear mudflaps behind the rear wheels ? Those plastic long ones that run down the back of the tires
Just a couple 10mm bolts!
i have the 97 in a 2.7 (4cylinder). city and town, the MPG is hot garbage. on the highway doing 55mph i easily hit 500 miles on a factory 18.5 gal tank. so these truck are actually decent on fuel, just have to consider the alterations. i am abusing a set of centerlines. tires are 275/60/R15. so a much wider stance, arguably more "traction". other than that its all factory, and i could not be happier. my little 4runner just smashed though 330k miles and its still going pretty well. i did the alternator like a year ago. i am the 2nd or 3rd owner. i really like these trucks.
Add a lift mate to lift the vehicle by the wheel with the hi lift
how will you change the tire though
wow sweet 3rd gen man, looks beautiful
Thanks!!
Thanks for this - it's very timely content for me. I've been looking at upgrading and knew about some of the issues with trimming, etc., but hadn't even thought of the impact on the steering rack and some other things you mentioned. Thought about upgrading to 17" rims, but then the tires are more expensive, etc., so I'm just swapping out my 16" stock SR5 6-spokes with some Limited 5-spokes (for a different look), and I may throw some M/T's on for a beefier look (but then, again, I hadn't thought about the extra weight and stress of those like you mentioned). Just not sure whether to stick with 265/75/16 or go a little wider with 285/75/16. I want to get the Cooper STT Pros, but due to the price, I may compromise with a set of Cooper Evolutions.
BTW, I checked out a couple of your personal finance posts as well. Two of my fav things: 4Runners and Finance.
Lol definitely a lot of consider. I think 33s are fine if you got 4.3 gears. If you get muds, it’ll be a slug like mine, especially with 4.10 gears. 32s are great and least amount of work (not to mention cheaper tires). Kinda depends what you want out of your 4runner lol. My 32s never let me down before. Definitely been throwing lots of money at getting these 34s running decent.
Finance is how i afford stuff!! Thanks for watching over there too lol.
I have new coastal offroad bumpers I welded and put on my 02. I have 265/70R17 and already have to run my 4runner hard up the hills. Was going to go bigger tires. I also need to add lift kit and make some sliders. I must note that I get 17mph city and 22 hwy. Why much better than u maybe I drive different like, only run
O/D over 45 and never while climbing mtns. Basically I will still have to regear. I am thinking that everything I have to do yet is not worth the cost.
Keep that baby the way it is. That mpg is very good!!! I been thinking about a coastal myself for the rear! The list is crazy once you go up one size from where you are at as I outlined lol
Lol. I did professionally lift my 2001 4runner 4 inch, replaced the bolt joints, steering rack and pinions, new mud tires even though not 4x4 (just for the look) yes we get the eyes turning everywhere we drive. Parts & labor about 4k. Do u have any hacks for good headlights beside leds retrofit?
I do not have any hacks other than retrofits
I'm about to get one from 1999 4WD
Like mine!
@@PhoRunner what type of light do you recommend me for night time
Hid retrofit headlights if you can
315 refers to the with = 12.402 the side wall is the smaller measurement.
315 and 12.40 are both width measurements
I've always wanted to modify my vehicles but this is the first one when it comes to the drivetrain and all suspension stuff including wheels and tires I'm keeping it original lol 147k on mine and plan on keeping it
thanks for that wow, lots of things I didnt consider
No worries at all!! I kinda knew all these things but I had to do a lot of research. Figure I’d make one video outlining it all lol
Currently debating between 285/75r16s and 255/85r16s! Loved the vid.
255 seems good. No interference problems and probably lighter due to being narrower. Hmm
@@PhoRunner apparently they're super popular in the tacoma scene. I kinda dig the style of the skinny tire too.
265/75/16 would be best since it fits in spare lol
265 16’s always been my tire of choice on three different runners never need bigger
This^^
Nice job telling the truth
Thanks man. Keeping it real lol
Good energy ! Thanks
Thanks for watching
Brake calipers is a big one
love my bigger brakes. Stops much better with these heavy tires.
I bought a 2000 sr5 2wd it has 17’s on it with the stock rotors for 15 inch. I didn’t do tundra upgrade but I did go to powerstop.. hope it lasts ..
Nice rig, man.
Thanks bud
it's actually quite clean. I mean It's not a 50k car clean but it's clean enough for my kids to be in.
@@subtegral All it has to be is capable and reliable. It's a trail truck, not a grocery getter or go-to-church vehicle. I never seem to worry about how nice my interior looks while on- trail for some reason... Alas, I'm sure Jeep would be happy to sell you a shiny new POS with fancy interior.
I banned him from my channel. He said some racist stuff last night and I wasn’t having it lol. Just ignore his comments
Always wanted bigger tires for my 06 sport! I agree it completely changes the vehicle's appearance and takes it from soccer mom vehicle to absolutely BADASS! But holy SHIT there is so much to consider and so many issues you run into / so much work needed to accomplish this holy crap!! I think il just stay stock and blend in with the rest of the soccer moms :(
You’ll get the mod bug eventually lmao
@@PhoRunner 😂
Yo 11mpg city that’s wild I’m getting 16 city and 19 hwy on 33x12.5 g003 I would get a intake and exhaust asap lol
That’s quite good lol!
Man, I have 2013 and just got '33s all around, the spare does fit underneath.
Yeah that’s the largest probably for 2003+ that will fit under there. Any larger and it won’t fit. For 96-02, 32 is the max
Damn man I love my stock 31 tires! Also no lift so I can take my 4runner to a fancy job interview lol.
I am cheap ass would never buy anything above 100 for my truck! hahaha
lol good point on the job interview. My kids probably hate it when dad brings the mall crawler to pick them up from school ;). JK they are young and still love it. I'm sure they won't when they're older lmao.
Great video. Can this thing keep up on the freeway with the heavier km3??
I’m hesistant to pass people but it drives just fine with the regearing to 488. Uphill was a struggle with 4.3 gears
Hey, don't you have a video where you go into detail about the tundra brake upgrade? Thanks for the videos, homie! Much appreciated.
I do not but I do show some of it in my manual hub part 2 video :)
Great Video 💯💪💯💪. Ever since your Video fixed my gas Gauge DEFINITELY
SMILES PER Gallon 😁
Excellent!
Thanks for another great video keep on wheelen
Thanks!!
Really good video. Well thought out.
Thanks man!!
Great video thanks
No prob!
Planning on 33s, but man I'm Still on stock tires tho 😂
Lol ittty bitties
Thank you! All your videos have been helpful!
No problem!!
If you are not mechanically inclined and lack deep pockets but only want to buy big tires because they look "cool" you're in for a rude awakening. I owned a K-5 4x4 with all of the bells and whistles for street and off roading. I could have bought a Bentley or Lambo with all of the the money I dropped on her. I started with tires and lifts as most do. The return on investment for tire modifications is really not worth the headaches. Listen to Pho Runner he is on point, but it's your world, I'm just living in it.
Haha true story!! Running 37/40s is even crazier lol
Where did you buy the antenna from the back of your toyota?
From Amazon. 3ft firestik. Check out my walk around , I got a link in that video
Great video with lots of good information. I just recently purchased a 2000 4runner and hope to put a left and larger tires on it. I wish there were more videos that contained as much information about this subject. Thank you very much.
Nice!! Thanks!! Just sharing my experiences lol. I might make a wheel offset video in the future.
Great review - great reasons to stay stock! Better to sell the 4runner and buy a bigger vehicle that has the height, engine and breaks to handle them.
Lol kinda thought about that a lot actually but love messing with my truck. For towing, I’m on the hunt for a tundra or tacoma.
I *completely* agree. Upscaling the tires triggers an insane cascade of monetary/performance/longevity costs. The 4Runner becomes a bottomless money pit; but hey, you can brag to your buddies who don’t like burning their hard-earned money. Instead, when I’m ready to upgrade my 3Gen, I’ll just buy myself a LandCruiser.
Don’t get me wrong, PhoRunner, I love what you do, I just can’t justify these costs 😅
Haha I do it for the gram. Just kidding. It’s just play money for me.
I just put 33s on my '01 tacoma(stock 4:10 gears), around town it drives fine, but once I put a trailer on it the lack of acceleration and braking power was very noticeable.
the only offraoding I do is on the beach, so I'm going to stick w/ the large tires but will probably add a trans cooler to be safe.
Yup! Around town is ok for me too but uphill is rough
Great video. Love your channel name. Yeah, even with my lift, I’m sticking with my 265/70R17 AT’s. Does all the things! Subbed. Looking forward to watching more from you. Excellent presentation style. Take care!
Thanks for tuning in!!
Hey buddy what brand are they? What rims?
@@raygan8940 265/70/17 Falken Wildpeak AT3W’s on factory Tacoma rims.
Where can I get that blacked out front fender trim?
Just stock sr5 mini flare that I sprayed black. Dirt kinda collects on there
I’m Diggin that ARB bumper.
It’s pretty sweet lol. Heavy but sweet
@@PhoRunner oh I’m gonna get one bro I can’t stop thinking about it. Just got my second third GEN this one is five speed 4 x 4.
Unicorn!!
@@subtegral 🤣
Lol 2.7 5sp, I’ve never seen personally so it must be a unicorn too
Regear before you supercharge. Power is not your problem it’s gearing. Bring your rpms back into the right rang thin supercharge if you still want to. The torque is still there just not where u want it.
Maybeeee. Rpms seem fine right now with 4.3 gears. But I can see 4:88 making it better. May need both lol. Or just buy a 5th gen lol
100%. Dang near everything I’ve seen on the forums people say a regear was a way bigger difference pushing tires over supercharger.
Lol I’ll get a tacoma or tundra
@@subtegral yeah I had 255/80r17 and they were great in everything but snow wheeling. And that’s one of my favorite things so it’s a deal breaker.
That’s what is awesome about vehicle modifications. We all get to do our own thing that we like and is custom for us. One may think it’s “stupid” or a waste of money but guess what? If it makes you happy (and you have the finances) do it. Don’t build your vehicle for other people. But I think that was kind of the point you were making about the giant tires and stuff right?
@@subtegral Oh I see what you’re saying that makes sense. I regeared my 4runner to 4.88 when I had 32 inch tires because I tow an enclosed trailer on long camping and hunting trips over pretty big mountain passes and it was a game changer. I know most “normal people” would have just purchased a bigger vehicle but I love my 4runner lol It is everything I want in an off-road vehicle.
yea i think the best budget way to look good is a 3 inch lift and 265/75/16 tires thats what ive got and its 17 mpg combined still with mud terrains
Yup!! I got 17mpg on my 2” lift 32” tire setup
Do you have a video or pic on how it looks?
Check my lift video. Right at the beginning there before picture
you only have a two and a half inch lift on the front of your 4runner right
Yeah, with all the weight, Im sure that's all it is.
For the stock 16x7 rims, the next common size up from 265/75 is 285/75. There doesn't seem to be a 275/75. I don't understand why.
Jeep size only sadly
@@PhoRunner thanks. You get a lot of questions on this channel and you answer them all. You deserve a ton more subs.
Haha I help where I can :)
Sweet ride man I have a 4th gen I liked it cuz of the center locking diff I then did upgraded Axel's onboard compressor and ARB air lockers front and rear OME 2" extreme overload rear springs also have a RTT on top rear strike bumper dual swing outs ARB safari snorkel sealed electronics vented high tranny t case and diffs in case I wanna get more than my toes get wet and ARB front bumper full length rack as well as Dometic freezer 100w solar panel and two 100Ah batteries run in parallel in the back under sub floor as camp power source completely separate from trucks power source also big deep cycle marine starting battery under hood with oversize alternator all Baja designs lights the list goes on lololol about 20k in extras
lolll that was quite a read and WOW! that's legit
@@PhoRunner it's a addiction lol
Awesome video. You point out what most people don’t even consider, wear and tear on drivetrain combined with worse mileage. I have luckily found a 2000 Limited with factory rear locked and 4.30:1 stock gears. I want to do a mild suspension lift and maybe slightly larger tires but nothing that will require cutting, chopping up wheel wells. Can you recommend a 2 inch suspension, not spacer lift that will stiffen things up for riding better when loaded up? Thinking of eventually running a 23 Zero soft sided RTT that weighs 135 lbs and of course a rack, probably a Sherpa. I also like the stock aluminum rims so want to continue to run them. Thanks! Tom in Arizona.
1997 on 32" all stock no rub.....
Nice. It’s true.. it can be done!
Lots to consider here! Thanks for the video :)
Thanks for watching!! Definitely a lot to consider!
I finally got my Dobinsons IMS shocks and springs installed. I also did the steering rack, and sway bar bushings with Energy Suspension. The front diff was treated with a Sonoran Steel diff drop kit; but the CV's are still slinging grease! Maybe it's the original boots... 334,400 miles later! Lol. The LCA's have Whiteline bushings, with the setting full out rear, and full in front... UCA's are the new SPC's on the D setting... Do you think I'll have issues with 285/75 R16's? These would be on the stock 3spit that you had as well... I do plan on getting different wheels, but at a later date. Also, what do you suggest on the CV's? I also plan on changing out the needle bearing on the front diff passenger side as recommended. Thank you for all your help brother, I highly respect your opinions and suggestions! 👍🛣🏞🗻🏕🌄🏜🌌
It’ll hit the control arm with those split 6. My trd pros are prettty close and that’s with more negative offset than those split 6. Expect to run 3/4” spacers or find some limited wheels as I think those have very similar offset as trd pro wheels (I measured despite what the specs say)
I have 3.90 gears and 33s. Feels so slow now before I had 32s.
2wd have 3.73:1 gears
@@subtegral I'm 100% sure your wrong about that 3.4 with a 5 speed. And I've also confirmed this with a 4runner guru
The 3.4 with 5speed usually came with 4.10 or 4.56 (rare). 3.73 and 3.91 are also available for the 3rd gen. Door jam code A02A is 3.91 ratio. Usually they are A03A (4.10) or A04A(4.30). My Canadian sr5 is 4.30 while most sr5 are 4.10. Limited (elocked) are 4.30.
@@PhoRunner I have an od ball. No AC and cranck windows..... Strange that first owner optioned it that way
@@PhoRunner my 99 limited is A03A. Is that unusual? Non locker 4wd
I just bought a 98,never had one and I’m loving it!! need new tires. What’s the best big size tire I can get away with, with out doing a lift and leaving the stock size rim.
Thanks
Also love your vidz! N content!
265/75/16
Regearing will help regain some Mpg.
But 1500+++ though
Trying to find some used ones lol but maybeeee regear. Premium gas sounds lame
@@subtegral he's getting 12mpg. Supercharging wont make it any better. You'll just pay more for premium. 👎
Smiles per gallon fellas. My Prius gets the miles per gallon.
@@PhoRunner regularly 87 octane here is almost $3/gallon. Ridiculous!😭