I love how the xp multiplier for combat applies to Prayer too. It definitely helps those people who have sub-optimal prayer training options. And people like me with their chaos altars can get 50m prayer in like an hour with our 24k xp a Dragon Bone rates.
I'm super excited for it! As fun as having pest control was last year for insta max.... it was actually quite boring lol. I much prefer something like scurrius to get combat xp.
WOW, didn't realize Scurrius Spines were Prayer too, love these thorough vids! Thank goodness Mastering Mixology got the Minigame pts buff, that place suuuucks
1/6 at tier 4. Given how quickly you can kill him its going to so easy to lvl combat stats, 80k xp from one spine drop is enough to get you to level 48 from level 1.
very easy but still fun. Introduces you to changing prayers during combat which is something you don't see outside of endgame content or fire cape, so it's a nice bridging gap to push people towards trying fire cape as it is honestly the same level of difficulty. If you can kill scurrius without taking damage (very easy) you can get a fire cape. A lot of the newer mid level bosses are honestly pretty good, not super rewarding in the main game but it's a nice bridge towards harder content
I am astounded you pronounced “multiplicatively” correctly (just teasing 😊) I’ve really enjoyed your leagues vids, especially the fun visuals you make!
Lucked out getting Soul Wars pet last league then, cuz I'm not going to be going back there 😂 I like that change though, get your exp playing the game, not cheesing a mini game
1 more quick update since i haven't seen it mentioned, the agility relic "Corner Cutter" has had its description updated on the discord to specifically mention that it "comes with 100% chance to pass agility checks". One of the mods said it was a mistake and unintentionally left off, but conspiratorially i think they added it last minute after seeing everyone complain about how useless it was.
That does improve it but I still think the other two are stronger still. Lol. That would be a funny conspiracy. If only they could do the same thing for the WC relic.
Scurrius solving all combat skills including prayer is so nice as that's not something you need to think about with region or relic choices. Takes a lot of the power away from things like golden god, wilderness altar and gilded POH altars as prayer is something you NEEDED a solution for otherwise you're cucking yourself. Won't be the fastest prayer in the game but I imagine getting to level 80+ is super easy and unless you want to max, that is plenty.
Thank you as usual for the good visuals! Do you think the Friendly Forager relic is now a bit weaker with Varlamore as they announced faster farming ticks and more minigame points? It would still be useful, sure, but I feel like getting 4x or even 8x mixology points for the little amount of herbs you get normally, would be good enough to get a decent amount of potions without needing to rely on the Friendly Forager relic.
If you're just worried about mixology then I agree with you. Normal herbs you collect are probably enough there. If you want access to 99 and higher XP tasks then I think you still want either the passive herbs from that relic OR overgrown. Otherwise you'll have to be good about farm runs.
The hit to pest control hurts. That’s how I was able to finish out the 25m and 50m tasks for my off-style combat stats and prayer. By the end of the league with combat achievements and max multipliers, it only took a few hours. I suspect it’ll take longer to do with scurrius, and definitely makes the case for Asgarnia a little weaker
I’ve also got a spreadsheet I’m putting together for the first few hours I can send to you if that helps cut down on some of the work you’ve got to do. I am writing it in such a way that it should unlock your first region and up to tier 3 relics without relying on choosing specific relis or regions
I had no clue about the hand in at Rat King. Ty for this Jack :). I am going range, but messing around with a few Rat King kills, for extra prayer cant hurt.
Ya, it seems really strong for prayer XP atm. I'm kinda worried they may nerf it in some way lol. Considering you can likely blow scurrius up by the end of day 1 and once you max out the XP multiplier then 10 spines are 1m xp
You probably can but it'll be tough early without prayer. I'll have to do the math for the varrock city museum lamps we can claim. My guess is that would be the easiest way to jump up your prayer initially. Or go bury big bones for a bit.
@@YewJackOSRS actually come to think of it, I haven’t even been factoring in Golden god at all. Could be the obvious play early on, but we don’t even know what’s competing against it
It would probably be a bit tough without prayers unless you got the tier 4 in your main style for healing. But also 43 prayer shouldn't take long even if you end up just burying big bones or something. Get a few free lamps from the varrock museum you could use as well.
One thing I don’t understand, and maybe y’all can help me. Has Jagex said for sure that Golden God won’t be in the same tier as Grimoire and Overgrown? I ask because all the relics in one tier look the same (icon wise). All the tier ones have the same stone design. Same for the teleport relics. Same for the utility relics. Golden God has the same stone design as Overgrown and grimoire (look at the little bite taken out of the right side); so why do all the big channels have them in different tiers? Side note: I hope Pest Control isn’t completely dead with the XP nerf, since void range is the highest dps in class. I need games to be running.
Considering last year they put overgrown and ruinous powers together and this year they’re putting another farming and spellbook relic in the same tier, I think it may be safe to say they’re bringing equilibrium back and putting it in the same tier, like that year, but have overhauled it to make it more enticing this year.
I'm not sure if they explicitly said or not, but I think if they were going to show them all in the same tier then they would have when they showed the overgrown relic. Would be odd for them to show 1 but not the other since we already knew grimoire and GG at that point.
I honestly don't get the trashcan for lumberjack. If anything, pickaxe became the trashcan once dodgy deals was announced since you can steal ore and gems so easily. Sure, the fletching arrowshafts is ass, but logs are the only resources you can't buy. That's just my 10 cents.
It's more a hold over from when I originally made it a trashcan, though I still don't think super highly of it personally lol. The arrow shafts were a real feels bad.
Yeah certain shortcuts, and access to some courses require levels but I think the only thing for grraceful is the Re-colours for graceful also counted as tasks in previous leagues as well.
@@joeytje50 one thing that gives me hope is that the combat masteries don't have anything related to spec attacks, so there could be a spec atk relic to be seen as well
Now i am a bit afraid that they will put a spec atk relic, if any in tier 7 together with the other high end combat relics (like the guardian or executioner level) instead of making a lower level of them like last leagues, which is a bit sad, i just hope the relic is good and dont need you to sacrifice hp like last leagues. Also, i'm not sure we will gert tier 8, it could happen, but there is only 3 days left, so if they do they better be fast tho
I suppose it is always possible they slot combat in at T3 cause you get the double combat XP from there. If they did that I'd think they'd also do a T8 cause the other relics here don't feel powerful enough for a final tier besides maybe TR/BN
@@YewJackOSRS Indeed, i wouldn't mind a combat on tier 3 and them a high end one in T8, i loved the versatility of the ones in last leagues, and guardian was ok too tho XD
They're gonna revive kandarin on the last day by saying if you picked kandarin you can trade mod ash and instantly be fully maxed with max points just for being one of the 4 people to take that region lmao
@@YewJackOSRS You should tell everyone about the 'wiki sync' plugin too, which is especially good for the casual player because it will automatically mark of the tasks they have completed.
i think the x32 prayer xp makes me less interested in Golden God assuming the other relics in that tier are interesting. im also SOOOOOOOO happy they nerfed soul wars and pest control xp into the ground. it was my least favorite meta last leauge it was so boring imo. cant wait to find out what the rest of the relics are. especially the combat tier. im assuming there is going to be no life steal relic since thats in combat masteries and we still havent seen a spec attack relic yet so im guessing that will be one of them. hopeully there are new combat relics instead of just bringing retribution and executioner axe back
I agree. GG seems like a waste now really unless they end up nerfing scurrius handins. Going to be such good XP, even on off styles with no bonuses. I'd think they'll change up the combat relics this year since they have changed up so much other stuff. I like the idea of an elemental weakness application one, maybe a spec one, and not sure what else they might do.
@@xxWh1teboixx hmm thats a good point Total Recall kinda is a spec relic. would feel kinda bad to have to pick Total Recall to abuse specs though but yeah maybe there wont be a standalone spec relic
Bro everyone and their mother will be spamming Scurrius now because of the changes LMAO. Thankfully its in the starter region so atleast we dont have to consider picking a region for this. I dont think there are many alternatives to Scurrius for combat training with these changes.
Ya they will for quick xp. I'm sure plenty of people will use bosses and slayer to train up as well. At least for scurrius you can get an instance so don't have to worry about competition at it there.
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Only a few more days of leaks until it is time for leagues! Who's ready? 😁
Not me!!!!
I’m doing my planning tomorrow lol
I love how the xp multiplier for combat applies to Prayer too. It definitely helps those people who have sub-optimal prayer training options.
And people like me with their chaos altars can get 50m prayer in like an hour with our 24k xp a Dragon Bone rates.
I'm super excited for it! As fun as having pest control was last year for insta max.... it was actually quite boring lol. I much prefer something like scurrius to get combat xp.
WOW, didn't realize Scurrius Spines were Prayer too, love these thorough vids! Thank goodness Mastering Mixology got the Minigame pts buff, that place suuuucks
Ya, should only be a few hours at T4 for everything.
Putting a garbage for the tier 1 woodcutting relic got me smiling respect
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I am so ready. Today just completely solved my region picks(as you may have seen my post in the discords) very excited to get dragon this year!!
Ya. Gl!
Scurrius spines will also have the boosted drop rates as well which will be super OP.
1/6 at tier 4. Given how quickly you can kill him its going to so easy to lvl combat stats, 80k xp from one spine drop is enough to get you to level 48 from level 1.
Mhm. They'll end up like 1/6 or 1/7 by the time you are T4.
I have actually never fought scurius so now to learn a new boss.
He’s a great intro boss! Very easy to learn
very easy but still fun. Introduces you to changing prayers during combat which is something you don't see outside of endgame content or fire cape, so it's a nice bridging gap to push people towards trying fire cape as it is honestly the same level of difficulty. If you can kill scurrius without taking damage (very easy) you can get a fire cape.
A lot of the newer mid level bosses are honestly pretty good, not super rewarding in the main game but it's a nice bridge towards harder content
It's a good time. Probably want to go in with protection prayers (43 prayer), plus like ~40/50 cmb stats will probably suffice.
Holy cow, the gout tuber actually gets increased rates this year - hallelujah!
As it should have always been. Huzzah!
I am astounded you pronounced “multiplicatively” correctly (just teasing 😊)
I’ve really enjoyed your leagues vids, especially the fun visuals you make!
The more complex words are often easier. 😂
Glad you're liking them though. ♥️
Lucked out getting Soul Wars pet last league then, cuz I'm not going to be going back there 😂 I like that change though, get your exp playing the game, not cheesing a mini game
Oh you're right. Pet hunters are in shambles right now if they didn't get it before lol. It'll still be quick but way less useful to spend time there.
1 more quick update since i haven't seen it mentioned, the agility relic "Corner Cutter" has had its description updated on the discord to specifically mention that it "comes with 100% chance to pass agility checks".
One of the mods said it was a mistake and unintentionally left off, but conspiratorially i think they added it last minute after seeing everyone complain about how useless it was.
That does improve it but I still think the other two are stronger still.
Lol. That would be a funny conspiracy. If only they could do the same thing for the WC relic.
@@YewJackOSRS Yeah agility is easily my least favourite skill in leagues and even if it immediately gave you 99 i still probably wouldn't take it.
This has become my fav osrs leagues channel, great informative videos. Hope you win the golden gnome!
You'r my favorite osrs youtuber this year ! Keep it up man !
Thanks!
Scurrius solving all combat skills including prayer is so nice as that's not something you need to think about with region or relic choices. Takes a lot of the power away from things like golden god, wilderness altar and gilded POH altars as prayer is something you NEEDED a solution for otherwise you're cucking yourself. Won't be the fastest prayer in the game but I imagine getting to level 80+ is super easy and unless you want to max, that is plenty.
Ya. I'm hoping they feel it's balanced enough as is and don't nerf it like they did with SW last year after the first few days or whatever it was.
Thank you as usual for the good visuals! Do you think the Friendly Forager relic is now a bit weaker with Varlamore as they announced faster farming ticks and more minigame points? It would still be useful, sure, but I feel like getting 4x or even 8x mixology points for the little amount of herbs you get normally, would be good enough to get a decent amount of potions without needing to rely on the Friendly Forager relic.
If you're just worried about mixology then I agree with you. Normal herbs you collect are probably enough there. If you want access to 99 and higher XP tasks then I think you still want either the passive herbs from that relic OR overgrown. Otherwise you'll have to be good about farm runs.
The hit to pest control hurts. That’s how I was able to finish out the 25m and 50m tasks for my off-style combat stats and prayer. By the end of the league with combat achievements and max multipliers, it only took a few hours. I suspect it’ll take longer to do with scurrius, and definitely makes the case for Asgarnia a little weaker
I’ve also got a spreadsheet I’m putting together for the first few hours I can send to you if that helps cut down on some of the work you’ve got to do. I am writing it in such a way that it should unlock your first region and up to tier 3 relics without relying on choosing specific relis or regions
I'll probably still want to go through it myself, but you're welcome to drop me a line in the discord if you like. Can't say I won't look at it lol.
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Thanks!
I had no clue about the hand in at Rat King. Ty for this Jack :).
I am going range, but messing around with a few Rat King kills, for extra prayer cant hurt.
Ya, it seems really strong for prayer XP atm. I'm kinda worried they may nerf it in some way lol. Considering you can likely blow scurrius up by the end of day 1 and once you max out the XP multiplier then 10 spines are 1m xp
@@YewJackOSRS I just need 43 for Echo KQ. Trust me. I will be Drygore blowpiping ToA and DKS by day2.
What seems like some strong ways to get that initial 43 pray for protection prayers? Is Scurius viable without protection prayers?
You probably can but it'll be tough early without prayer. I'll have to do the math for the varrock city museum lamps we can claim. My guess is that would be the easiest way to jump up your prayer initially. Or go bury big bones for a bit.
@@YewJackOSRS actually come to think of it, I haven’t even been factoring in Golden god at all. Could be the obvious play early on, but we don’t even know what’s competing against it
Lumberjack is goated
Greatest of all trashcans. 😉
Is it feasible to go scurrius without 43 prayer and get the prayer there?
It would probably be a bit tough without prayers unless you got the tier 4 in your main style for healing. But also 43 prayer shouldn't take long even if you end up just burying big bones or something. Get a few free lamps from the varrock museum you could use as well.
@@YewJackOSRSor quest or diary’s
It just occurred to me what if the echo bosses get overheads and that's why the passive for t6 is prayer penetration?
That's what I'm suspecting as well.
One thing I don’t understand, and maybe y’all can help me. Has Jagex said for sure that Golden God won’t be in the same tier as Grimoire and Overgrown? I ask because all the relics in one tier look the same (icon wise).
All the tier ones have the same stone design. Same for the teleport relics. Same for the utility relics. Golden God has the same stone design as Overgrown and grimoire (look at the little bite taken out of the right side); so why do all the big channels have them in different tiers?
Side note: I hope Pest Control isn’t completely dead with the XP nerf, since void range is the highest dps in class. I need games to be running.
Considering last year they put overgrown and ruinous powers together and this year they’re putting another farming and spellbook relic in the same tier, I think it may be safe to say they’re bringing equilibrium back and putting it in the same tier, like that year, but have overhauled it to make it more enticing this year.
I'm not sure if they explicitly said or not, but I think if they were going to show them all in the same tier then they would have when they showed the overgrown relic. Would be odd for them to show 1 but not the other since we already knew grimoire and GG at that point.
I honestly don't get the trashcan for lumberjack. If anything, pickaxe became the trashcan once dodgy deals was announced since you can steal ore and gems so easily. Sure, the fletching arrowshafts is ass, but logs are the only resources you can't buy. That's just my 10 cents.
It's more a hold over from when I originally made it a trashcan, though I still don't think super highly of it personally lol. The arrow shafts were a real feels bad.
Is the tier order you have here confirmed?
Not confirmed, just my guess on the relics right now. Only one locked in is the T1 relics.
Them bumping up the points for all my regions only to keep Kandarin at the bottom. Poor one out for Kandy
Ya, one more rip for Kandarin.
I wonder if Graceful will do something else since it's totally redundant now. Basically all agility is.
In previous years it hasn't other than being a task.
Yeah certain shortcuts, and access to some courses require levels but I think the only thing for grraceful is the Re-colours for graceful also counted as tasks in previous leagues as well.
Can i find people for shield of arrav in your discord ? 😊
You can certainly try lol. We got a little over 200 in there now I think so a non zero chance of matching up with someone.
I reckon there's some juicy passives for 6 and 8 (if it goes to 8) and it'll be the very last reveal
Oh, you think they are holding out on us?
I reckon the juicy passives are all packaged in either specific relics, or in the combat mastery passives. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you
@@joeytje50 one thing that gives me hope is that the combat masteries don't have anything related to spec attacks, so there could be a spec atk relic to be seen as well
@YewJackOSRS I can't see them missing out a tier, they're definitely holding out lol
@@UIM_Moose that tier was only present in leagues 4 tho, so...yeah, sadly they could just not include one
Now i am a bit afraid that they will put a spec atk relic, if any in tier 7 together with the other high end combat relics (like the guardian or executioner level) instead of making a lower level of them like last leagues, which is a bit sad, i just hope the relic is good and dont need you to sacrifice hp like last leagues.
Also, i'm not sure we will gert tier 8, it could happen, but there is only 3 days left, so if they do they better be fast tho
I suppose it is always possible they slot combat in at T3 cause you get the double combat XP from there. If they did that I'd think they'd also do a T8 cause the other relics here don't feel powerful enough for a final tier besides maybe TR/BN
@@YewJackOSRS Indeed, i wouldn't mind a combat on tier 3 and them a high end one in T8, i loved the versatility of the ones in last leagues, and guardian was ok too tho XD
@@YewJackOSRSPretty sure I read on another video that Jagex confirmed there will only be one tier of combat relics
@@danielramin6734 Ya. Only 1 tier of them, but they didn't say where. I had always assumed they would be the final tier but it doesn't have to be.
They're gonna revive kandarin on the last day by saying if you picked kandarin you can trade mod ash and instantly be fully maxed with max points just for being one of the 4 people to take that region lmao
You have to get all the tea satchels from the tower of life first, and then each tea satchel you trade him = one more 99 or point cap.
Who other than select content creators would play without using the wiki
You'd be surprised actually. A lot of casual player don't reference the wiki much, if at all.
@@YewJackOSRS You should tell everyone about the 'wiki sync' plugin too, which is especially good for the casual player because it will automatically mark of the tasks they have completed.
i dont use the wiki thats what the cc is for
i think the x32 prayer xp makes me less interested in Golden God assuming the other relics in that tier are interesting. im also SOOOOOOOO happy they nerfed soul wars and pest control xp into the ground. it was my least favorite meta last leauge it was so boring imo. cant wait to find out what the rest of the relics are. especially the combat tier. im assuming there is going to be no life steal relic since thats in combat masteries and we still havent seen a spec attack relic yet so im guessing that will be one of them. hopeully there are new combat relics instead of just bringing retribution and executioner axe back
I agree. GG seems like a waste now really unless they end up nerfing scurrius handins. Going to be such good XP, even on off styles with no bonuses.
I'd think they'll change up the combat relics this year since they have changed up so much other stuff. I like the idea of an elemental weakness application one, maybe a spec one, and not sure what else they might do.
Didn't the spec relic kinda get absorbed into the total recall relic in a way?
@@xxWh1teboixx hmm thats a good point Total Recall kinda is a spec relic. would feel kinda bad to have to pick Total Recall to abuse specs though but yeah maybe there wont be a standalone spec relic
@@YewJackOSRS need an elemental weakness application relic to bring Kandarin back from the dead lmao
Bro everyone and their mother will be spamming Scurrius now because of the changes LMAO.
Thankfully its in the starter region so atleast we dont have to consider picking a region for this. I dont think there are many alternatives to Scurrius for combat training with these changes.
Ya they will for quick xp. I'm sure plenty of people will use bosses and slayer to train up as well. At least for scurrius you can get an instance so don't have to worry about competition at it there.
Medium task gives 30 instead of 40...
I did notice that in the wiki table. I was kind of hoping it was a mistake lol
Hahahahahha that's me ruined with soul wars strat again
It'll still be good for crates, just no XP this time.
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