With how all-in on range people are that would be a massive upset lol. Everyone take ranged seems to be planning on ignoring off-styles entirely since it doesn't seem like you really need them. I can imagine eating 45s from reflected tbow shots and dying to your own ruby bolt procs might force some adjustments.
@@TheBackwardsLegsMan If Echo DKS requires full tribrid due to deflections or even Dagannoth Mother color mechanics with elemantal weakness, thatll be interesting for sure haha
I'm so unsure as to what route to take but Jagex have done a great job making it pretty even across the board, thanks for the in-depth analysis once again! 🐐
Yo ignore any nonsense about tier 5 passive "buffing" Sunlight spear builds - clearly, I have a dream - and I'll misinterpret whatever I possibly can to make it good 😭
Tier 6 ranged feels like there's no reason to use any other combat style unless your target is entirely immune to ranged. Bypasses massive def, 60% bypass of prayer, doesn't matter what your stats or what you wear. Gear for damage, gear for defense, but no need to use d'hide when you never actually have to roll.
It lets you go crazy with range builds. The Tbow with Amethyst arrows alone gives you 32 dps and since accuracy doesn't matter you can wear full tank armour
I'm going Varlamore, and originally I was thinking about going a melee build... but now I'm leaning towards tier 6 ranged + atlatl in full tank gear for shenanigans. It probably won't work vs Sol but i'll have fun in the meantime. Perilous Moons alone rewards 40k base slayer exp, you just need to get that initial level 48.
Im thinking of doing Varlamore and Ranged as well! Do you know what other regions youll take? Im leaning towards Zeah because it offers a lot of skilling, some good PvM, and a raid (also the Nature's Reprisal sounds super fun). Final region being Tirannwn to learn CG and Zulra plus getting a dark bow to pair with the dragon arrows from Konar chest.
@@Ventraeus Honestly I'm not at all certain on what my other two region unlocks will be. I'm leaning towards Desert to do Vardorvis + Leviathan, because they're an enjoyable kind of angry, and the blowpipe seems great, but doing Mage Training Arena doesn't terribly appeal to me... And then maybe Fremminik for access to Duke + DKs. I could just as easily go for Kourend to play around with the uber-salamander and practice CoX, and have Mory as my final region... its tough.
@@jstanandthesavages558 Weird take as you'll be roflstomping EVERYTHING anyway with all styles. So might aswell not play, because it's boring. Most of the challenge this league is surviving the new mechanics added to echo bosses. It's going to be a blast.
I'm hoping we get some more relics that balance out the styles a bit after looking at some dps calculators it seems insane how hard the other 2 styles have to work just to beat a naked range tier6 with rune knives
While I'm not disagreeing, it should be noted that using a 1t weapon is pretty impractical. If you have to move at all you will be losing dps so yeah it's good but maybe not as good in practice as it seems on paper
Don't forget about the 20% heal passive, that "5th attack heals 5" for ranged will always be 6 actually, or 1.2 hp per tick with blowpipe on average -- 6 hp restored every 5 ticks passively paired with our damage reduction is going to sustain like CRAZY.
I'm going DMV, 6 melee 4 ranged. Drygore Blowpipe, Dharoks, Noxius Halberd, Rancour amulet, Ultor Ring, Machine gun Karils, All the double hit melee weapons, Quiver, etc. There's a lot of power in these regions with the two (imo) better raids, ontop of crazy challenges like the Colo and Echo Sol. Melee also does well against most of the challenges in these regions as well. And with today's reveal of Last Stand, I have more confidence in being able to take down Echo Sol for that last combat mastery point. Going to be so much fun :D
I'm leaning 6/1/3 with the Varlamore sets and grimoire. Double hitting seems nuts with echo and accuracy boosts and then can ice barrage into free attacks that can echo bounce and heal me. With Fremmy jewelry all my stats going hard so dual stuff should be fun AF
ill go desert+fremenik for sure with asgarnia for void or tyrawynn for d arrows+ i like gauntlet boss without prepping. but t bow with d arrows+t6 relic on a high mage level mob is alone with fremenik+desert around 42 dps, with rigour it goes to like 44 dps and with void its around 45-46 dps (for no high level mobs you have still the bp with around 35-38 dps depends on masori or void) i cant miss out on that. osrs wiki dps calc btw has already implemented all masterys etc thats where i get my numbers from, you can just swap around a bit if you like :)
6/3/1 melee/ranged/magic seems so fun. Still get 1t blowpipe in Tir or Desert, which is gonna be massive DPS for an offstyle. Plus the possibility (however slim) of a 24 hitsplat scythe sounds amazing. Also, with melee and ranged, almost everything in TOA is gonna melt. Gonna have some very fast clears.
(I've changed my 'plan' many, many times at this point, so it might change again) I like the idea of going ZFT, 3 melee/6 range/1 mage. trying to rush getting the "tree trumpet" as my main weapon, getting that OP jewlery from DKs, and finishing up by getting blowpipe and full crystal for huge ranged AND melee buffs. I think there's alot of people sleeping on nature's reprisal. I'm sure other weapons/builds are going to be better/stronger, but a powerful melee option that attacks from 7 tiles every 4 ticks (at 80% attack speed) is going to be better than some realize, especially in places like raids and inferno.
Right now I'm thinking I'm going 3/6/1 with Kourend, Varlamore, Fremmenik. Between the Trumpet, Eclipse Atlotl, Tonalztics of ralos, Venator bow, and T. Bow, I'm happy with my ranged weapon options, and the perilous moons sets call to me.
I've re-tooled my entire plan around CM6 No-Miss Ranged runs. I am a melee primary player, but the idea of no blue hit splats and 1 tick knives had me giddy.
I'm going 3/1/6. I feel like magic is definitely not the strongest pick, but that charging mechanic and the executes change the way the game is actually played and aren't just a more dps button. My only DT2 boss is Duke with the region I took, and even with t6 magic you can barely touch him lol. I'm also going Elf Lands for the Saelador and crystal blessing, which means I can actually farm my Virtus gear. This also gives me very solid off-styles in general, since I can imagine the echo bosses are going to either require it or at least be a lot easier with them.
Man I am a meleer at heart but honestly range masteries keep looking better and better Even though I plan to have the nature's reprisal as my main weapon and even that makes melee attack worl as ranged lol
I'm definitely going AZF Specialist ranged on my first account just to see how hard I can break the game with darts, ZCB specs and Tbow and boost my friends at Nex and CoX. On my second account I will go VMT Last Stand melee to take on the Colosseum with my trusty scythe, and the Inferno with my 1-tick toxic blowpipe, both for the first time ever. Surely I can complete both within a reasonable amount of attempts with Last Stand. I hope those challenges and the CG grind will make me good at prayer flicking.
i think this is a insane change with 5x drops at tier 4. you can get so early into pvm its refreshing. im going full into ranged with rest in melee. you can finally take a early break for the skilling and point grinding with some pvm early on. i think this league is going to be top tier.
If I didn't go mage last leagues I'd be disappointed, it is a shame there's a bit of antisynergy though - didn't one of the Jmods confirm it'll take whichever effect comes out the higher result between T6 & 1?
Way I hear it, it’s partial synergy. If you roll above 90%, then your new max hit is higher. So 90% of the time it’ll synergize. Not nearly as fun as always working, especially since magic seems a bit less interesting anyways than echo hits or range tank.
I’m struggling because I really wanted to focus melee and want at least 5 points there, but some content isn’t very melee friendly so going into range/mage early is probably stronger. Also not sure how relevant the prayer penetration would be for hybrid style so 5-5 might be the way also, I’m just not sure
@@bertschi7 Definitely, probably the best and if I run an alt I definitely want to focus Ranged. I'm also playing with my SO and she wants to go full range so I'm trying to diversify 😅
Being able to run full tank with t6 ranged mastery is too temping to pass up. Did the leagues dps sim and full misouri with tbow or blowpipe vs full justicar is only a 4 and 2 dps difference. No reason not to goo full tank since you cant miss.
combat masteries is so freaking cool! im so excited and have no idea what i want to do. currently thinking of 3-5-2 because i want desert and dont think the tier 6 for range is that good if i main the drygore blowpipe. unless the tier 6 passive is super important for echo bosses then maybe ill have to change it up. im really hoping that one of the combat relics is going to interact with combat masteries. like itd be super cool if we had a relic that gave an extra point or let us allocate 1-2 mastery points without being connected to the previous tiers or something.
Kalphite queen protection prayers are not real protection prayers. They just indicate the queens current defense to weapons not actually blocking or reducing the damage.
@joshholmes1372 no doubt, but slower than lamping to 43 staright away and running scurrius. Tho this goes out the window with x2 combat training that just got announced. You wait for prayer training
Hey, why is it that the 25% prayer point increases will help with the meme build? I thought that was talking about when you drink a prayer potion, you get 25% more prayer points back. Are you saying that it's actually increasing your prayer points from gear by 25%?
The mage T6 doesn't synergize as well as you would think, and is kinda bad because it rolls on cast vs on hit. This means that if you roll an execute, 2 mage hits are going to hit before anyways that were already mid-flight as you're casting. For T1 synergy you have to roll the 10% for it to work with this, so only 1/10 hits. This execute can be good in slayer probably if the mob hp is low enough.
thinking of 6/4/0 with Fremmy/Varlamore/Tiranwann and mainly use varla spear and huge prayer bonuses (fremmy echo jewelry alone is nice for that). With meele relics echo hits contributing to varla spear stacks...you probably can get spec every 5 attacks on average (or 10 ticks). And that special attack will be aoe and gigaboosted by all prayer bonuses. Tiranwann for 15% extra dmg, for 5 prayer blessing and 4 points in ranged will still give my blowpipe 1tick attack speed, 100% accuracy from t3 passive and some extra accuracy from crystal armors (because they have ranged attack). Problem with this build is... it doesnt have raid region which I really really want. Not even sure what I can drop for raid region...
All in on range , was mage last league and had a blast just face tanking stuff lol. For regions im still undecided, is the range set from varlamore good outside pvp?
I'm torn between 5/5/0 and 3/6/1 with ZFW. Sitting there with the trunk trumpet, killing everything with a constant 17dps sounds nice but on the other hand, having the Khopesh and the trunket at 2t would be nice too...
I'm planning on going 3/6/1. Only regions I'm certain of are Varlamore 1st, and Desert. I'm leaning towards going Wildy 2nd and running the agi course and fighting revs to get a huge cash stack...unless I end up going golden god, at which point I don't know what should replace wildy. All I know is that I want to cheese echo sol heredit with ranged. 😅
Not sure why you think Tier 5 passive benefits Sunlight Spear? Its based on your Prayer *BONUS* for its special damage, whereas that relic is simply "whenever you restore prayer, restore 25% more"
They have overlooked 1 crucial thing I think leagues 5 with the promotion might have inspired older and new players alike to come back and how are they expected to do zuk to unlock the 10th mastery credit hmm
For magic pre-shadow its actually full ahrims with the mory echo item that does the most dps, aside from purging staff on demons (which outdps's shadow)! I might look at 0/4/6 instead of 4/0/6 masteries because I overlooked karil's when I was investigating what my secondary would be!
@@joshholmes1372 Ahrims checks for damage after all damage calculations for its 15% boost to happen, so its lower accuracy by 4% but higher max hits! You can check for yourself in the dps calculators
I maybe gona go for new 1000% toa whit mage rout going D/A/F maxing 6 mage 3 for blowpype and 1 last for dogsword dmg incice on spec seems kinda balanced chill and qute fun :D
if you're not confident in your pvm skills and you refuse to learn honestly just dump 6 into range its by far the most noob friendly set and you'll bruteforce any content really easy. if you're willing to learn just do whatever style you want with all the boosts and relics even zuk will be a joke after you get the basic mechanics down. my friend who had only gotten the fire cape a month before leagues 4 ended up doing it as well and his main struggle was the triple jad which you can practice through the challenges as well.
Any help? I was always going for ranged but in this league i wanted to finally try magic... But... The ranged looks so nice with the always hit perk and now i dont know what to do... Also magic didnt get too much love in special items do its another - for this choice... Antoine has an idea what regions would be good/best for magic...? Or maybe i should just stick to meme tank with new blowpipe :p?
I think that ranged perk is overrated, unless you are planning on wearing justiciar and throwing darts. But in every other case your accuracy is already through the roof, passive gives you 100% more accuracy and if you are using new blowpipe it already rolls check twice, so you hardly ever miss.
I'm thinking 4 ranged early and going to morytania with just mage and ranged into 6 melee but I have fears about echo boss prayers since I won't have it until zuk/do i even get it at all since my last region is varlamore.
Just something to consider for that T1 melee relic... its not that great. The math behind it kinda shows why. It only procs 25% of the time, and half of the times it procs, the second roll will be lower than the first roll (technically slightly more than half the time, since ties are functionally the same thing). That means it only increases you damage 1/8 times you swing. That wouldn't be that bad if it were a big damage increase, but the next part of this is that the average difference between two dice being rolled is about 33% of the max roll. That means that 1/8 swings will get you a 33% increase to your damage, which means this is actually only about a 4% damage increase. Honestly the entirety of the melee tree isnt much better than the 5 tick weapons being 2 tick (that part is insane though). Obviously if you are going melee, you need to take it eventually, but i wouldnt bother rushing it if you dont want the rune saving effect. But that said, its not exactly hard to kill a giant, so like, do whatever. Ranged and Mage numbers are also pretty bad, but at least they are getting that early 95% ammo/relic save, and there is probably something to be said about the advantage of consistently not hitting really low rolls, and seeing some harder bosses be easier just because of the higher spikes you will randomly get sometimes.
Similar thoughts at t1, I could immediately see a big buff to range from the get go but Melee is really going to take a long time to capitalise on that 25%
@@justchillin527 I still see two decent use cases. If it works between combat encounters, then this is still pretty nice for your first attack damage, which might let you punch a bit about your weight class with the T6. If waiting a few seconds puts your max hit above their max HP, then waiting a few seconds is a much faster way to clear packs of mobs for slayer tasks or something like that. It also can be useful to increase that execution range when you know a boss is going to enrage. I dont know where the numbers will all shake out in the end, but if you could spend a few seconds healing up when a boss is just shy of enraging, then you just sit still and nuke them, you could get a big hit to push them immediately in to execution range.
btw the 1/8 swings isn't even 1/8 swings right? its 1/8 HITS which is even worse feeling, still 4% dps though im pretty sure I think calling the range tier 1 bad is incorrect though. I bet its at least 2-3x this relic's dps increase I'm not sure I understand any case to be made for a need to "rush" combat relics outside of the tier1 passive over getting tier 3-4 skilling relics for the slayer and 2x combat xp outside of doing it for fun of course which is valid asf
Those are all true and well reasoned points about the T1 relic, but it makes me slightly more likely to hit something for 200 with my dharoks greataxe and that's good enough for me
Darts and knives will be elite dps, not far off blowpipe, and not region specific. I wish ranged weapons like short bows/atlatl in the 3 tick group got more love though
@@ScriticRS I need to get better at just “having fun” maybe hahaha I have a hard time going atlatl when 1 tick darts are staring at me straight from tier 3. I ran some numbers and the knives/darts just demolish the atlatl with even a smidge of accuracy gear
I wanna go mellee and take dessert, gwd area and kourend. I only learned toa so far thats why im picking dessert first, i know toa so i can grind fang and get first mega rare oder maxbe go gwd first, BUT my problem is, i kinda wanna go morytania because of justicar but i never did tob im scared and i dont like the echo boss in morty 😭 i dont know what to do and i think my region choises are pretty bad for mellee but its my first ever leagues i take part in. During the others i Just kept playing my main iron but after one year of cg over and over again for 1 enhanced i need some dopamin from leagues xd
I want to go range this league (because went melee and magic focus last leagues) and seeng the t6 mastery for range makes the blowpipe super busted Annoyingly enough though, I need desert to use the blowpipe, and I don't want to take desert because I did it last leagues and I hate raiding Jagex givth, and Jagex takth
@@Iloinen_pingu they added some instances for bosses for this leagues I'm sure, not sure if the rat man was one of them. Id assume so or you're right it'll be a nightmare lmao
combat relics last year felt a lot more transformative to your gameplay and fun in their design. all these CMs kinda shake out to being a raw DPS buff or passive healing, the only one to have a visual effect is melee :/
Current plan is 4/6/0 with VMF afking inferno with full justi and dragon darts. Full meme build. If we get a really good spec relic I might have to find a way to fit in A for the zcb though
IDK why people make videos like this. Listing random weapons without actually communicating the context they are strong in is worthless. Dark bow in particular performs pretty poorly compared to any similar tier ranged option. This kind of content has no educational or entertainment value.
Zuk is a 30 sec kill jad is 8 sec with max range vala desert frem all you need is range drygore pipe then mele and magic is worthless after t6 oh and vorkath is 25s kill for dragon darts
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I have a feeling Echo bosses will use Deflection curses, so we'll be eating our own dps if we dont Hybrid 🤣
Good shout, thankfully we can watch the big boy streamers and content creators be suprised by that and adjust accordingly 🫡
With how all-in on range people are that would be a massive upset lol. Everyone take ranged seems to be planning on ignoring off-styles entirely since it doesn't seem like you really need them. I can imagine eating 45s from reflected tbow shots and dying to your own ruby bolt procs might force some adjustments.
@@TheBackwardsLegsMan If Echo DKS requires full tribrid due to deflections or even Dagannoth Mother color mechanics with elemantal weakness, thatll be interesting for sure haha
More chances for buyer's remorse in a League is always welcome. Cannot wait to see what crazy things people come up with.
I changed my region choices and combat mastery preferences 16 times during this video.
I'm still changing mine now 🗿
I'm so unsure as to what route to take but Jagex have done a great job making it pretty even across the board, thanks for the in-depth analysis once again! 🐐
just take ranged 6 if ur not sure
@currentcommerce4774 I think this is the style I'm leaning most towards 👍
Yo ignore any nonsense about tier 5 passive "buffing" Sunlight spear builds - clearly, I have a dream - and I'll misinterpret whatever I possibly can to make it good 😭
What do u use for ur beard gang? Its clean
🫂 It's okay (:
@@EngageTV a good turkish barber goes a long way 😂
@@EngageTVwhat beard? He doesn’t have one, haha
Tier 6 ranged feels like there's no reason to use any other combat style unless your target is entirely immune to ranged. Bypasses massive def, 60% bypass of prayer, doesn't matter what your stats or what you wear. Gear for damage, gear for defense, but no need to use d'hide when you never actually have to roll.
Brrrrrrrrt
Theres some bosses like verzik p1 tekton grotesque guardians you cant damage with range.
@@EmperorOnyx8 Get melee mastery 3 and hit her with a 2 tick ham joint lol
@ thats one of the ideas im going 6 Range 3Melee 1Mage
It lets you go crazy with range builds. The Tbow with Amethyst arrows alone gives you 32 dps and since accuracy doesn't matter you can wear full tank armour
I'm going Varlamore, and originally I was thinking about going a melee build... but now I'm leaning towards tier 6 ranged + atlatl in full tank gear for shenanigans. It probably won't work vs Sol but i'll have fun in the meantime.
Perilous Moons alone rewards 40k base slayer exp, you just need to get that initial level 48.
Im thinking of doing Varlamore and Ranged as well! Do you know what other regions youll take?
Im leaning towards Zeah because it offers a lot of skilling, some good PvM, and a raid (also the Nature's Reprisal sounds super fun). Final region being Tirannwn to learn CG and Zulra plus getting a dark bow to pair with the dragon arrows from Konar chest.
@@Ventraeus Honestly I'm not at all certain on what my other two region unlocks will be.
I'm leaning towards Desert to do Vardorvis + Leviathan, because they're an enjoyable kind of angry, and the blowpipe seems great, but doing Mage Training Arena doesn't terribly appeal to me...
And then maybe Fremminik for access to Duke + DKs.
I could just as easily go for Kourend to play around with the uber-salamander and practice CoX, and have Mory as my final region... its tough.
@@Cevellini its tough I feel like Im always making a new plan! Now im going VZD because some buddies are going Desert and want to do ToA hahah
I'm thinking of rushing t6 range and then roflstomping everything
Yea but boring?
@@jstanandthesavages558 Weird take as you'll be roflstomping EVERYTHING anyway with all styles. So might aswell not play, because it's boring. Most of the challenge this league is surviving the new mechanics added to echo bosses. It's going to be a blast.
The point is to have fun, so do what you think will be fun.
@@bertschi7 Have you considered this might be fun to me?
@@CianaCorto i think ranged giga chad is dope, its not like you start the leagues with full justi+bp/tbow/zcb
You're quickly becoming one of my favorite osrs content creators 🙂
I've never stepped foot on the colosseum, but I'll bet the house that I'll be tearing echo Sol apart
I'm hoping we get some more relics that balance out the styles a bit
after looking at some dps calculators it seems insane how hard the other 2 styles have to work just to beat a naked range tier6 with rune knives
While I'm not disagreeing, it should be noted that using a 1t weapon is pretty impractical. If you have to move at all you will be losing dps so yeah it's good but maybe not as good in practice as it seems on paper
Don't forget about the 20% heal passive, that "5th attack heals 5" for ranged will always be 6 actually, or 1.2 hp per tick with blowpipe on average -- 6 hp restored every 5 ticks passively paired with our damage reduction is going to sustain like CRAZY.
also worth noting dark bow will 3 tick on rapid, 9 x .5 = 4.5, rounded down to 4, rapid = -1, 3 tick attack speed
3-6-1 range tank build in FMT. can’t wait to try this out
I think im going 4 tiers into ranged in MTF areas, then attempt zuk. Then send everything into melee as a melee ranged build. Im hyped!!!!
I'm going DMV, 6 melee 4 ranged. Drygore Blowpipe, Dharoks, Noxius Halberd, Rancour amulet, Ultor Ring, Machine gun Karils, All the double hit melee weapons, Quiver, etc. There's a lot of power in these regions with the two (imo) better raids, ontop of crazy challenges like the Colo and Echo Sol. Melee also does well against most of the challenges in these regions as well. And with today's reveal of Last Stand, I have more confidence in being able to take down Echo Sol for that last combat mastery point. Going to be so much fun :D
I'm leaning 6/1/3 with the Varlamore sets and grimoire. Double hitting seems nuts with echo and accuracy boosts and then can ice barrage into free attacks that can echo bounce and heal me. With Fremmy jewelry all my stats going hard so dual stuff should be fun AF
ill go desert+fremenik for sure with asgarnia for void or tyrawynn for d arrows+ i like gauntlet boss without prepping. but t bow with d arrows+t6 relic on a high mage level mob is alone with fremenik+desert around 42 dps, with rigour it goes to like 44 dps and with void its around 45-46 dps (for no high level mobs you have still the bp with around 35-38 dps depends on masori or void) i cant miss out on that. osrs wiki dps calc btw has already implemented all masterys etc thats where i get my numbers from, you can just swap around a bit if you like :)
6/3/1 melee/ranged/magic seems so fun. Still get 1t blowpipe in Tir or Desert, which is gonna be massive DPS for an offstyle. Plus the possibility (however slim) of a 24 hitsplat scythe sounds amazing. Also, with melee and ranged, almost everything in TOA is gonna melt. Gonna have some very fast clears.
1/400.000 to proc 8 echos
(I've changed my 'plan' many, many times at this point, so it might change again)
I like the idea of going ZFT, 3 melee/6 range/1 mage. trying to rush getting the "tree trumpet" as my main weapon, getting that OP jewlery from DKs, and finishing up by getting blowpipe and full crystal for huge ranged AND melee buffs.
I think there's alot of people sleeping on nature's reprisal. I'm sure other weapons/builds are going to be better/stronger, but a powerful melee option that attacks from 7 tiles every 4 ticks (at 80% attack speed) is going to be better than some realize, especially in places like raids and inferno.
Trumpet comes from zeah so you wont get it in your regions
@@EmuofDOOMM in this instance, K meant Kourend. Updated lol
Right now I'm thinking I'm going 3/6/1 with Kourend, Varlamore, Fremmenik. Between the Trumpet, Eclipse Atlotl, Tonalztics of ralos, Venator bow, and T. Bow, I'm happy with my ranged weapon options, and the perilous moons sets call to me.
I've re-tooled my entire plan around CM6 No-Miss Ranged runs. I am a melee primary player, but the idea of no blue hit splats and 1 tick knives had me giddy.
I'm going 3/1/6. I feel like magic is definitely not the strongest pick, but that charging mechanic and the executes change the way the game is actually played and aren't just a more dps button. My only DT2 boss is Duke with the region I took, and even with t6 magic you can barely touch him lol. I'm also going Elf Lands for the Saelador and crystal blessing, which means I can actually farm my Virtus gear. This also gives me very solid off-styles in general, since I can imagine the echo bosses are going to either require it or at least be a lot easier with them.
Man I am a meleer at heart but honestly range masteries keep looking better and better
Even though I plan to have the nature's reprisal as my main weapon and even that makes melee attack worl as ranged lol
Another banger vid S!
Going either 640 or 460, def.
I'm definitely going AZF Specialist ranged on my first account just to see how hard I can break the game with darts, ZCB specs and Tbow and boost my friends at Nex and CoX. On my second account I will go VMT Last Stand melee to take on the Colosseum with my trusty scythe, and the Inferno with my 1-tick toxic blowpipe, both for the first time ever. Surely I can complete both within a reasonable amount of attempts with Last Stand. I hope those challenges and the CG grind will make me good at prayer flicking.
i think this is a insane change with 5x drops at tier 4. you can get so early into pvm its refreshing. im going full into ranged with rest in melee. you can finally take a early break for the skilling and point grinding with some pvm early on. i think this league is going to be top tier.
I’m pretty set on the “tank ranger” idea. Full Justiciar with Tbow sounds hilarious
I believe Jmods confirmed in the Discord that the T6 and T1 Magic don't synergize, as lame as that is.
If I didn't go mage last leagues I'd be disappointed, it is a shame there's a bit of antisynergy though - didn't one of the Jmods confirm it'll take whichever effect comes out the higher result between T6 & 1?
Well they said it only procs if you naturally hit more than 90 percent of your max
Way I hear it, it’s partial synergy. If you roll above 90%, then your new max hit is higher. So 90% of the time it’ll synergize.
Not nearly as fun as always working, especially since magic seems a bit less interesting anyways than echo hits or range tank.
I’m struggling because I really wanted to focus melee and want at least 5 points there, but some content isn’t very melee friendly so going into range/mage early is probably stronger. Also not sure how relevant the prayer penetration would be for hybrid style so 5-5 might be the way also, I’m just not sure
Never missing sounds fun though...
@@bertschi7 Definitely, probably the best and if I run an alt I definitely want to focus Ranged. I'm also playing with my SO and she wants to go full range so I'm trying to diversify 😅
Being able to run full tank with t6 ranged mastery is too temping to pass up.
Did the leagues dps sim and full misouri with tbow or blowpipe vs full justicar is only a 4 and 2 dps difference. No reason not to goo full tank since you cant miss.
i'm afraid to do the calc for what the accursed scepter is going to let you hit with ice barrage in the wildy...
combat masteries is so freaking cool! im so excited and have no idea what i want to do. currently thinking of 3-5-2 because i want desert and dont think the tier 6 for range is that good if i main the drygore blowpipe. unless the tier 6 passive is super important for echo bosses then maybe ill have to change it up. im really hoping that one of the combat relics is going to interact with combat masteries. like itd be super cool if we had a relic that gave an extra point or let us allocate 1-2 mastery points without being connected to the previous tiers or something.
Kalphite queen protection prayers are not real protection prayers. They just indicate the queens current defense to weapons not actually blocking or reducing the damage.
Im really torn on lamps on prayer or hunter. I want to rush area 1 to unlock varly. Then do varrock museum to unlock rumours right from the start
I was just weighing this up today! For V first pickers, lamps on hunter really isn't a bad shout. Getting straight into rumours could be pretty big
@ScriticRS yea, hunter also feeds prayer and varlamore has that shrine (you just unlock combat relics later.) You kinda have to take fish relic tho.
Prayer is so fast
@joshholmes1372 no doubt, but slower than lamping to 43 staright away and running scurrius. Tho this goes out the window with x2 combat training that just got announced. You wait for prayer training
Hey, why is it that the 25% prayer point increases will help with the meme build? I thought that was talking about when you drink a prayer potion, you get 25% more prayer points back.
Are you saying that it's actually increasing your prayer points from gear by 25%?
The mage T6 doesn't synergize as well as you would think, and is kinda bad because it rolls on cast vs on hit. This means that if you roll an execute, 2 mage hits are going to hit before anyways that were already mid-flight as you're casting. For T1 synergy you have to roll the 10% for it to work with this, so only 1/10 hits. This execute can be good in slayer probably if the mob hp is low enough.
Great for the mage healing/sustain (T4) tho.
thinking of 6/4/0 with Fremmy/Varlamore/Tiranwann and mainly use varla spear and huge prayer bonuses (fremmy echo jewelry alone is nice for that). With meele relics echo hits contributing to varla spear stacks...you probably can get spec every 5 attacks on average (or 10 ticks). And that special attack will be aoe and gigaboosted by all prayer bonuses. Tiranwann for 15% extra dmg, for 5 prayer blessing and 4 points in ranged will still give my blowpipe 1tick attack speed, 100% accuracy from t3 passive and some extra accuracy from crystal armors (because they have ranged attack).
Problem with this build is... it doesnt have raid region which I really really want. Not even sure what I can drop for raid region...
Gotta send the 6, 2, 2. Having the scythe that just goes brrr sounds like too much fun to pass up
All in on range , was mage last league and had a blast just face tanking stuff lol. For regions im still undecided, is the range set from varlamore good outside pvp?
it is pretty good outside pvp ngl the atls are very solid ranged weapon
I have a feeling 6/3/1 builds will be the most common because rushing t5-6 passives will make ALL styles stronger
I'm torn between 5/5/0 and 3/6/1 with ZFW.
Sitting there with the trunk trumpet, killing everything with a constant 17dps sounds nice but on the other hand, having the Khopesh and the trunket at 2t would be nice too...
I'm planning on going 3/6/1. Only regions I'm certain of are Varlamore 1st, and Desert. I'm leaning towards going Wildy 2nd and running the agi course and fighting revs to get a huge cash stack...unless I end up going golden god, at which point I don't know what should replace wildy. All I know is that I want to cheese echo sol heredit with ranged. 😅
Not sure why you think Tier 5 passive benefits Sunlight Spear? Its based on your Prayer *BONUS* for its special damage, whereas that relic is simply "whenever you restore prayer, restore 25% more"
Tell you what I'm excited for a jad slayer task with a 12x xp multiplier. And all the league buffs.
They have overlooked 1 crucial thing I think leagues 5 with the promotion might have inspired older and new players alike to come back and how are they expected to do zuk to unlock the 10th mastery credit hmm
Torn between 6/4 and 5/5, cuz numbers wise t6 melee doesn't add much DPS, but on the other hand crits are always fun
6/3/1 was my plan. With KTF. Can't wait to try the tree trunk :P
Im still confused on how tf u learned to edit this amazing
For magic pre-shadow its actually full ahrims with the mory echo item that does the most dps, aside from purging staff on demons (which outdps's shadow)! I might look at 0/4/6 instead of 4/0/6 masteries because I overlooked karil's when I was investigating what my secondary would be!
Pretty sure full virtus + 15% damage weapon beats ahrims. Ahrim 3% + weapon 5% + set effectx2 echo =15% for 23% virtus + kodai is 30% ice barrage damage
@@joshholmes1372 Ahrims checks for damage after all damage calculations for its 15% boost to happen, so its lower accuracy by 4% but higher max hits! You can check for yourself in the dps calculators
6/4/0 Ranged/Melee/Magic just feels correct tbh
I just want to know if thousand dragon ward prevents freezes so I can go melee build
3 tick dharocks with the gloves will be craaaaaaaaaaaazy.
Kalphite queen does not actually use protection prayers, she only gains a large amount of defensive stats.
I will be going ZMF, and trying a 2-6-2 build. I really wanna try out Karils
Karils looks like so much fun this league!
Where's the "Throwing hands" mastery????
I maybe gona go for new 1000% toa whit mage rout going D/A/F maxing 6 mage 3 for blowpype and 1 last for dogsword dmg incice on spec seems kinda balanced chill and qute fun :D
Fellow Mager. Good to see. I’m going Wildy Fremmy desert. 6/mage 3 melee. Honestly might choose range cause blowpipe and darts.
if you're not confident in your pvm skills and you refuse to learn honestly just dump 6 into range its by far the most noob friendly set and you'll bruteforce any content really easy. if you're willing to learn just do whatever style you want with all the boosts and relics even zuk will be a joke after you get the basic mechanics down. my friend who had only gotten the fire cape a month before leagues 4 ended up doing it as well and his main struggle was the triple jad which you can practice through the challenges as well.
Does anyone know if it is 10 different lvl 100+ monsters or can you just go kill Scurrius 10 times and unlock it?
thinking 6/3/1 but with that t6 perk for range... I was planing A/F/M but now not too sure lol
Any help? I was always going for ranged but in this league i wanted to finally try magic... But... The ranged looks so nice with the always hit perk and now i dont know what to do...
Also magic didnt get too much love in special items do its another - for this choice...
Antoine has an idea what regions would be good/best for magic...? Or maybe i should just stick to meme tank with new blowpipe :p?
I think that ranged perk is overrated, unless you are planning on wearing justiciar and throwing darts. But in every other case your accuracy is already through the roof, passive gives you 100% more accuracy and if you are using new blowpipe it already rolls check twice, so you hardly ever miss.
the irony of going 0/6/0 is i dont need other styles so i have no idea. I'm not gonna pick a region for as long as i can so lets see how it goes!
I'm doing melee focused, but taking my first point in magic. So strong early game.
I'm still waiting for the spec atk relic, i feel like that one will be a dealbreaker for me since i only got 2 of my 3 regions decided for now
I'm gonna go heavy ballista for all content
Gonna be so fun
unless the combat relics are huge for a specific combat type, i think i am set in stone with a mage build
Ranged (with a blowpipe) actually heals 6hp every 3 seconds, not 5 because of that healing bonus passive.
Its 6 hp every 5 ticks, not 5 with the 20% healing bonus
I want to go mage but am having issues with my planning
I'm thinking 4 ranged early and going to morytania with just mage and ranged into 6 melee but I have fears about echo boss prayers since I won't have it until zuk/do i even get it at all since my last region is varlamore.
So tier 5 passive is for prayer on gear? And not prayer points restored from pots and such?
It's just prayer point gain - Church of Sol stocks are unfortunately not up :(
What a shame. Ultimate cleric build would have been fun.
Thanks mate !
Just something to consider for that T1 melee relic... its not that great.
The math behind it kinda shows why. It only procs 25% of the time, and half of the times it procs, the second roll will be lower than the first roll (technically slightly more than half the time, since ties are functionally the same thing). That means it only increases you damage 1/8 times you swing. That wouldn't be that bad if it were a big damage increase, but the next part of this is that the average difference between two dice being rolled is about 33% of the max roll. That means that 1/8 swings will get you a 33% increase to your damage, which means this is actually only about a 4% damage increase. Honestly the entirety of the melee tree isnt much better than the 5 tick weapons being 2 tick (that part is insane though). Obviously if you are going melee, you need to take it eventually, but i wouldnt bother rushing it if you dont want the rune saving effect. But that said, its not exactly hard to kill a giant, so like, do whatever.
Ranged and Mage numbers are also pretty bad, but at least they are getting that early 95% ammo/relic save, and there is probably something to be said about the advantage of consistently not hitting really low rolls, and seeing some harder bosses be easier just because of the higher spikes you will randomly get sometimes.
Similar thoughts at t1, I could immediately see a big buff to range from the get go but Melee is really going to take a long time to capitalise on that 25%
With the Mage tree the t2 sounds nice and all until you make you staves faster. 😢hen it kinda seems unnecessary
@@justchillin527 I still see two decent use cases. If it works between combat encounters, then this is still pretty nice for your first attack damage, which might let you punch a bit about your weight class with the T6. If waiting a few seconds puts your max hit above their max HP, then waiting a few seconds is a much faster way to clear packs of mobs for slayer tasks or something like that. It also can be useful to increase that execution range when you know a boss is going to enrage. I dont know where the numbers will all shake out in the end, but if you could spend a few seconds healing up when a boss is just shy of enraging, then you just sit still and nuke them, you could get a big hit to push them immediately in to execution range.
btw the 1/8 swings isn't even 1/8 swings right? its 1/8 HITS which is even worse feeling, still 4% dps though im pretty sure
I think calling the range tier 1 bad is incorrect though. I bet its at least 2-3x this relic's dps increase
I'm not sure I understand any case to be made for a need to "rush" combat relics outside of the tier1 passive over getting tier 3-4 skilling relics for the slayer and 2x combat xp outside of doing it for fun of course which is valid asf
Those are all true and well reasoned points about the T1 relic, but it makes me slightly more likely to hit something for 200 with my dharoks greataxe and that's good enough for me
Darts and knives will be elite dps, not far off blowpipe, and not region specific.
I wish ranged weapons like short bows/atlatl in the 3 tick group got more love though
Atlatl still has some fun uses with a hybrid melee/ranged tier but I do love how quickly ranged gets a powerspike this league with darts & knives
@@ScriticRS I need to get better at just “having fun” maybe hahaha
I have a hard time going atlatl when 1 tick darts are staring at me straight from tier 3. I ran some numbers and the knives/darts just demolish the atlatl with even a smidge of accuracy gear
I wanna go mellee and take dessert, gwd area and kourend. I only learned toa so far thats why im picking dessert first, i know toa so i can grind fang and get first mega rare oder maxbe go gwd first, BUT my problem is, i kinda wanna go morytania because of justicar but i never did tob im scared and i dont like the echo boss in morty 😭 i dont know what to do and i think my region choises are pretty bad for mellee but its my first ever leagues i take part in. During the others i Just kept playing my main iron but after one year of cg over and over again for 1 enhanced i need some dopamin from leagues xd
6/4/0 For huge scythe swings and 1t blowpipe that heals over time.
I don't want to assume I'll even get ten points as a varlamore enjoyer, might even go 333
I want to go range this league (because went melee and magic focus last leagues) and seeng the t6 mastery for range makes the blowpipe super busted
Annoyingly enough though, I need desert to use the blowpipe, and I don't want to take desert because I did it last leagues and I hate raiding
Jagex givth, and Jagex takth
I hope they change it from being permanent. As i have no idea what i am doing lol
I still haven’t decided between ranged and melee, i’m a new pvmer, can some1 help plz:(
Wait, how am i going to solo scurrius if everyone else in leagues is trying to do the same 😅
@@Iloinen_pingu they added some instances for bosses for this leagues I'm sure, not sure if the rat man was one of them. Id assume so or you're right it'll be a nightmare lmao
private instance
@@ATOMiiCChicken what this guy said
2/6/2 - Dessert + Fremennik + Asgarnia. Ez
same brother
If there is a spec regen relic am going dog sword
Well looks like I'm not beating Zuk. Combat is my biggest weakness in osrs
KQ doesn't actually use prayer.
i wonder if a giant rat or spider is considered as a giant =p
This man is using 100% of the human brain. We gotta know
@@ScriticRS it probably won't be that easy tho, giants are consider4ed a race i quess and the the giants rats etc. are considered other as other mobs
I'm still holding my breath for an Echo Jad to help people get their 9 mastery points. I would love to see an Echo variant firecape.
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breathe son, it's not happening :P
4-3-3 or 3-4-3 fs
combat relics last year felt a lot more transformative to your gameplay and fun in their design.
all these CMs kinda shake out to being a raw DPS buff or passive healing, the only one to have a visual effect is melee :/
3/1/6 rushing 6 magic
Too bad melee doesn't help with zuk..
Full justicar ranged tank with d darts in VFM regions anyone?
Sounds delicious
Zuk is a complete joke in leagues unless you take all the melee relics. Not having barrage could also make it difficult.
Current plan is 4/6/0 with VMF afking inferno with full justi and dragon darts. Full meme build. If we get a really good spec relic I might have to find a way to fit in A for the zcb though
I think by giant you can also kill the giant frogs and rats in lumbridge swamp.
For the range tank build im aiming for elisian spirit sheild with full justicular
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IDK why people make videos like this. Listing random weapons without actually communicating the context they are strong in is worthless. Dark bow in particular performs pretty poorly compared to any similar tier ranged option. This kind of content has no educational or entertainment value.
@@noiseisgold3n42 👍 fantastic, move along
Zuk is a 30 sec kill jad is 8 sec with max range vala desert frem all you need is range drygore pipe then mele and magic is worthless after t6 oh and vorkath is 25s kill for dragon darts