Was Jesus A Failed Apocalyptic Prophet?
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2023
- Many argue Jesus predicted He would return in the 1st century and since this did not occur Jesus uttered a false prophecy. But did Jesus really predict His 2nd coming would occur in the 1st century? The answer is neither yes nor no. It is a bit more complicated. A special thanks to Bram Rawlings and Christopher M. Hays for helping to write the script and reviewing the video.
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You do realize that everything that is in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John is still Old Testament until Jesus actually dies on the cross, right?
If you don't realize this, then you're NOT rightly dividing the word of truth as stated in 2 Timothy 2:15.
I'm Jesus
@danielblair4413 Actually everything in the NT was old testament until the old testament city was destroyed in 70 ad ( Matt 5: 17-18, Hebrews 8:13)
Old physical city (old Jerusalem) replaced by new heavenly city (new Jerusalem)
You are wrongfully interpreting mark 13:10. In matt 24:14 gospel being preached "in all the world" is in its original Greek the roman world meaning the roman empire in the first century. Paul stated that was fulfilled during his ministry to the gentiles (romans 1:8, 10:18, 16: 26, col 1:6, 1:23)
This is the one argument orthodox Churchianity which is run by zionist operatives (most anyway) use to justify their argument that the end could not have happened in 70 ad. Scofield note on matt 24 stated since the "worldwide preaching of the gospel" had not occurred in that first century, the word "generation" in matt 24:34 could not mean the generation of Christ's day but matt 24 14 DID NOT say the literal world. It said the bible would be preached in all the roman empire which to those people then was the world.
And also you can make all kinds of excuses for all the imminent time statements you want but christ was written in luke to say in 21: 8 not to prematurely declare the end was near. " the end of ALL THINGS is at hand" 1 pet 4:7
You may not see this but you really helped me accept the truth of Jesus Christ being the son of God. Thank you. You allowed me to accept God into my life.
Thank you so much. I’m very grateful my videos helped you.
What about the original Son of God Julius Caezar?
our Father moved things and He merely used your brother as a piece to you coming. He sees everything and connected to everything. He sees and has seen your work
@@jesus.wants.you.2607 🤣🤣 have you ever thought it was weird or maybe just a coincidence that 1 of the 3 Deities to The Canaanites name is also Yahweh🤔
Yahweh was their God of War and was eventually merged into 1 "God" when The Israelites adopted (STOLE) him.
El' , Elohim, and Jehova were merged into 1 "God" and eventually a new deity (Jesus) popped up in the story and he was then merged into Yahweh...strange🤔
That’s part of the polemic. Ie Jesus is Lord as opposed to Caesar. God having a Son originates in the OT. Ie Ps 2.
I remember back in college when I first read some of the Greek tragedies and in them there would be a prophecy that something horrible would happen. In the course of the story the protagonist would be doomed to fulfill that prophecy no matter what they did to try to avoid it. I wrote a paper in that class where I compared and contrasted this style of prophecy with conditional prophecy found all over the Old Testament. Considering how foundational Greek culture is to western civilization I wonder if that is where a lot of confusion about how prophecy works comes from.
not just Western civilization, but Christianity itself
That by itself may not be enough, considering that greek civilization (since its christianisation and onwards) moved beyond that way of thinking. Some speculate that this may be due to the fact that christian greek thought used its newfound christian knowledge to interpret their stuff, while western european thought, in having lost and then regained acess to ancient greek litterature, tried to use their newrediscovered ancient greek thought to interpret christian knowledge (Aquinas being a primary example of that).
Do you remember what sources you used? I'm looking into this very thing right now.
@@_thisismeisthatyou9277 Oedipus Rex was the primary source I remember using, I’d start there and the other two plays by Sophocles in that trilogy. I can’t remember the rest of the sources I used, I also used Seneca but I think that was for a different paper.
@@Jon0387 I'm mainly interacting with the Theban Cycle (Oedipus Rex, Colonus, Antigone) and Virgil's Aeneid. I was mainly thinking about secondary sources you may have come across. Thanks!
I've been waiting for this series to drop with about as much expectancy and patience as the first century church. 🙌
Woohoo
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@@InspiringPhilosophy Speaking of first century church.. do you think you'll do a video about Eastern Orthodoxy?
The first Century church goes hard. 🔥🔥🔥
@@catalyst3713 That would have to start in 1000 AD. There was no "Eastern Orthodoxy" before the Great Schism. Not first century at all.
A special thanks to Bram Rawlings and Christopher M. Hays for helping to write the script and reviewing the video.
You always drop quality content
Could you do videos on Judaism and its criticisms of Christianity?
Bram is the man!
Your work in this episode is one of the worst and these must be your blind guides. Basically, EVERYTHING you have argued in this post is wrong, at least as far as you have attempted to apply it. Sure, prophecy can be conditional, but the prophecies of the Lord and his Apostles are definitive and time-bound and were to be fulfilled notwithstanding the sin of Israel in rejecting him, killing him, killing his Apostles and prophets and sages, and committing the unforgivable sin. The repentance of Israel is not in the old body that killed him, the dead body, the corpse, which was to be, and was, eaten by vultures. That old body was the seed sown into the ground and dying, to raise up the new Israel in a new body, the immortal body, the body of Christ, the kingdom of God, made without hands. It was they who were to be totally shattered (Dan. 12:7) and to suffer the Great Tribulation (Dan. 12:1) and to be broken by the kingdom of God as the feet of iron and clay and blown away like chaff by the wind at the harvest time (Dan. 2) and which was to suffer the rebellion and destruction of and as the Fourth Beast and its "little horn" in Dan. 7 which is killed by the Son of Man coming on the clouds in his kingdom. It is Old Covenant Second Temple Israel that was to suffer the rebellion that cuts of "an anointed one" (i.e. a governor or government of Second Temple Israel) and who would bring war and desolation and the destruction of the Second Temple (Dan. 9). It was Israel that was to become the ancient serpent, Leviathan, the dragon, slain by YHWH's mighty sword when he would come to harvest Israel at the sound of the Great Trumpet, at the destruction of the temple altar and the fortified city of Jerusalem (Is. 27), for shedding human blood on her land (Is. 26:21), "to atone for [YHWH's] land and his people" (Deut. 32). That old body of Israel would be destroyed as the rebels (Is. 66:24) and thereby suffer the fire of Gehenna, and be consumed by worms.
The Lord and the New Testament writers affirmed all this. They did not extend it. They did not modify it. They applied the coming judgement of Daniel, Isaiah, Joel etc. for the last days against their own generation of Israel and her leadership and her kingdom, political institutions and temple. They explicitly said that they were living the Last Days that the Old Testament prophets had predicted. They did not warn of the arrival of the Last Days soon, they said that the Last Days had arrived then, and would be completed soon.
All Israel is saved in the new body, the one body (Eph 4:4), the one "new man" including the grafted-in (naturalised) gentiles (Eph 2). The "one hope" of Christianity (Eph 4:4) was the "hope of Israel" (Acts 28:20), namely:
"And now I stand here on trial because of my hope in the promise made by God to our fathers, to which our twelve tribes hope to attain, as they earnestly worship night and day. And for this hope I am accused by Jews, O king! Why is it thought incredible by any of you that God raises the dead?" (Acts 26:6-8). The Hope of Israel was the resurrection of Israel as a nation (Ez. 37). But that resurrection of Israel would be accompanied by the resurrection of the unjust, as Gog and Magog arise to persecute the true people of God (Ez. 38-39). This persecution is dealt with at the eschatological "THE WAR" of Ez. 38-39, when the persecutors would be fed to the birds of the air. The Lord applied this to Israel of his day and his generation (Mat. 24:28). The wicked would rise up in rebellion (Dan. 12:2) and rise to be condemned, as the initially successful rebellion was put down and destroyed along with the "power of the holy people" after "time, times and half a time" (Dan. 12:7). The New Testament writers affirmed this rebellion (e.g. Mat. 24:7; 2 Thes. 2), when the Abyss (the watery zone under the ground and in the sea) would be unlocked to release the sea monsters, the locusts, called Abaddon and Apollyon (i.e. destruction) Rev. 9:1-9. The beast would arise from the Abyss to reign for 42 months in Jerusalem, which has become Sodom and Egypt (Rev. 11:7-8). The beast would arise from the sea (i.e. the Abyss) to sit on the throne of the ancient serpent, the dragon, to rule for 42 months (Rev. 13). The serpent-dragon is not new, it is ancient, the new power of the beast, sits on the ancient throne of the dragon. The dragon, Israel, had previously had Herod the Great, the "king of Israel" sitting on its throne, when it attempted to kill the infant Christ (Rev. 12). This ancient serpent is thrown into the lake of fire, at the end of the 42 month reign of the rebel government of the beast. This kills the ancient serpent which is Israel, when her temple altar is destroyed and long with her fortified city of Jerusalem, per Is. 27.
Your whole eschatology is totally messed up. You have not recovered the ancient cultural context when political powers and figures are dragons and serpents and sea monsters, and beasts. You have not recovered the ancient cultural context where the coming of YHWH as the Son of Man spells the military and political destruction of the Second Temple and its kingdom and political leadership. Get with the programme of the ancient near eastern apocalyptic and the eschatological narrative of the Old Testament, which the Lord and the New Testament writers affirmed was happening in their day and would be completed in their generation. Delete this video and start again.
@@steviegilliam5685 this
It can never be that Jesus Christ will fail. He is coming soon on clouds of glory to lift His children up
@@twitherspoon8954 How did Christianity begin with no Jesus?
Even if it weren't soon, He will return. For the Lord 1,000 years is like 1 day. The moment we die comes like a thief and our perception of time is then suspended until the resurrection.
To continue this nonsense of His returning any day now, which He could but no one knows we only know that He will, implies that we should only repent because he is returning in OUR lifetime. Should the countless saints before us have not repented?
As much as you believe what u say……I’m just as certain he isn’t coming again……..
Coming soon for 2000 years and counting. I think we need to download the DLC
@@twitherspoon8954 nope
As a wise man one said: *"The Bible was written for us, but it wasn't written 𝙩𝙤 us."*
To properly understand scripture, we must read & study it in the context it was written in, and Michael you are doing what wonderfully, thank you matey. God bless. >3
Why didn't God write it to us?
Then your god is a bad author 😇
@@benclark4823 How come? ::)
@@benclark4823why? Secular writers intend their work to be understood across generations. But you still need to know European history and culture to understand the details of Romeo and Juliet. Even thought the basic dilemmas of the story happen in various cultures
@@mattr.1887because if you write it in the context of the future it won’t gain traction in ancient times and they just wouldn’t be able to understand it… therefore, it’s be incredibly unintelligent to write a book for the culture and in context of the future. And then the question is posed, why would he write it in our culture and context and not civilization even further in the future?
Instead it makes sense to write it in the context Jesus lived in, to the people he lived with. That way they actually understand and follow it and continue to teach and pass it down throughout the generations.
O excellent Michael Jones, I hope you never forget that you have been a blessing to many Christians; by means of God, you have strengthened our faith, and you have been an example to us all. Thank you for all that you have done. May the King of Kings bless you forever and evermore.
Thank you
Thank you for this video. This is one if the most important videos of Christian apologetics. This question was in the back of my mind for a long time.
Thank you for the donation. I’m glad the video helped.
One thing that bothers me is when people say "you better repent because Jesus is returning soon".
We should repent even if He was not returning in our lifetime. So the countless saints all repented in vain? Should they have just continued in a sinful life just because God was not returning in their lifetime?
"It's cool, we still have at least 2 decades until His return so let's act ignorant until the years approaching His return". To the Lord 1,000 years is like 1 day.
Yeah, it's more like your repentance will hasten the coming, not that the coming should hasten repentance
Peter the apostle says "a day with the Lord is as a thousand years, AND a thousand years is as a day." What that's actually saying is that God's concept of time is different from ours since He lives in eternity and we live in time. God has all of creation to fulfill His promises, even if we don't see them being fulfilled in our lifetime. Also the need of repentance is vital whether or not the Lord will return according to our defintion of "soon", because, you know, you can step into eternity in the blink of an eye, and if you haven't repented, it will be too late to do so at that point.
I think it's better to say: "you better repent because you don't know when you're going to die and it could be today and once you die it's too late because you're dead."
2 peter 3:1-7
1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: 3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
How necessary for us to repent, seeing we can't bear this world already. Come Lord Jesus
Ohh lately I’ve been hoping IP does a video on this. Excellent timing!
IP, really hope you see this comment. I'm a former full preterist, and when I came across Chris Hayes book "When The Son Of Man Didn't Come" ( recommended by Michael Heiser and all about the conditional nature of Prophecy) it was a game changer. I've wondered your thoughts on this, and as soon as you mentioned Hayes, I got excited and pulled over on the road to leave this comment. Thanks for this!
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it
Are you still Preterist?
I am partial preterist and that seems to be the majority position of the eastern orthodox church.
@@fisherstrong6, sort of. PP typically says that some statements in the NT are about AD70 and others about the second coming. I believe there is only one eschaton in view which was partially fulfilled based on the conditions met.
I may be delayed in responses, but open to any further questions anyone has.
Find me anyone that can intelligently respond to Don K Preston. The man has carried full preterism well past the finish line. He makes everyone look like a child unskilled in the scripture. It's just a pleasure to watch him elegantly display his knowledge in eschatology.
I'm not a theologian but to miss the fact the second coming of Christ can only fit into the first century is willful ignorance. It was obvious to C.S. Lewis and many other bright souls who experienced the same cognitive dissonance. The good news is that Christ's victory has materialised. We can have Oneness with Christ and the Father in Spirit.
@@Willzyx88 , Has DKP ever responded to this book? I saw where David Curtis tried and did a pretty poor job.
One very interesting thing about this objection is that admits that the gospels have an early origin. Those who think that the gospels were made up at aroung 100 AD can't also think it contains failed prophecies about Christ returning before AD 100. So if they complain about these prophecies, at least they understand that the gospels originate early enough (and are unedited) for the prophecies not being fulfilled early enough to be a problem.
Good Point.
For the Messiah to come, there has to be world peace, all Jews have to live in Israel, and everyone on earth worships the Jewish God. This is the case regardless of when the gospels were written.
@@mattr.1887 plus the temple be rebuilt and a few other things. none of which have happened. Inspiring philosophy is a smart guy but his inability to accept the his religion is not true inevitably makes his videos laughable to anyone who isn’t already a Christian like he is.
critical dating has Mark around 70 70 (not the early as in what Christians refer to like the 40s or 50s) and John was a little before 100AD and just so happens to downplay all the apocalyptic stuff. this is all consistent
@@Stolas1777 Where does it predict a third Temple? When John wrote Revelation he wrote in the very first verse, "The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must SOON take place." and then it says in verse 3 the time is NEAR. Those words meant then exactly what they mean now. John measured the Temple therefore it had to still be standing. Also from the beginning of the siege of Jerusalem to its horrible end it took 3 and 1/2 years.
Daniel's 70th week is not separated from the other 69 weeks it followed them. There will not be a third Temple, nor a seven year tribulation if you're basing it on Daniel's 70th week.
Schweitzer has been real quiet since IP dropped this…
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Really good, thanks IP. Your inclusion of citations is always appreciated and sets you apart on youtube.
Once again another master piece.. IP doesn’t miss, God bless this ministry!
Thank you
Very interesting perspective! Thanks for providing a reply to this objection that I had never heard or considered before.
One theory I've heard is that most of Matthew 24 is talking about the fall of Jerusalem but in Mathew 24:35, when Jesus says heaven and earth may pass away, it is followed by Jesus saying but of that day, no one knows, only the Father. So most of Matthew 24 is mainly about the destruction of the Temple with an aside about the actual end of time, of which no one knows and the only sign will be the sign of Noah. Just a thought.
Great topic, can't wait for the premiere
Imagine still thinking that Jesus "never existed" in 2023
Bc there zero evidence of Jesus with no outside sources only Bible written by unknown authors & paul who NEVER MET JESUS
No need to imagine it. Millions of people do not believe in a historical "Jesus", at least not the one described in the Gospels as having supernatural powers, or they just don't care one way or the other.
Imagine believing a story that a man calling himself the “”son of god”” walked on water and turned water into wine and resurrecting people (and apparently himself) from the dead and that a blood sacrifice was NEEDED to appease such a unforgiving deity (that was somehow the guy HIMSELF) because it was said in a book written decades AFTER the fact and hypercritically not believing the Koran for the same basis because the SAME book says that all the books that aren’t in the Bible aren’t cannon 😇
@@benclark4823 imagine fuming over the fact that one person existed to the point where you you miss the point of the post.
@@SquizzMe “”imagine”” millions of people in the 21 century with access to the internet believing that the Bible is 100% true “”words”” of Yahweh/Jesus/holy ghost????? and not at all myth or legend! 🤦♂️
For the first 15 minutes I felt this was going to be less convincing than your other videos, but turns out my assumption was wrong! Wonderful work, once more!
This just answered 100 questions but also raised 100 more in my mind lol. Honestly brought me comfort though, with my million questions and doubts I continue to trust the Lord because I know there are some things I just won’t fully understand and that’s ok.
What if I told you Jesus came back in 70 AD?
@@JJ-xf8xgI’d call you a heretical preterist who’s probably going to start spewing Arianism.
How is preterism heresy? What did Jesus mean when He said He would return in that generation?@@withlessAsbestos
God bless you IP; I will be sure to share this video. Peace be with you brother.
"Prophesy is not so much a prediction as a warning and call to repentance (and return) to God."
Absolutely! 🙏
Maybe if your god stop playing “”hide and seek”” we wouldn’t be having this conversation 😒
@@benclark4823
Not "my god" but God!
Psalm 27: 7&8
"Hear, O LORD, when I cry with my voice! Have mercy also upon me, and answer me. When You said, “Seek My face,” My heart said to You, “Your face, LORD, I will seek.”
Seek God and you will find the LORD.
@@eswn1816 psalm 82 👈🙄
King James Version
[82] God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. 😇👉😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
@@eswn1816witch “”god”” There are several gods mentioned in the Bible.
In the book of Genesis, God used a plural pronoun to refer to himself (herself, itself, or themselves), implying that there is more than one god up there.
And God said, let [[us]] make man in our image. Genesis 1:26
And the Lord God said, Behold, then man is become as one of [[us]], to know good and evil. Genesis 3:22
Let [[us]] go down, and there confound their language. Genesis 11:7
The Old Testament God is a "god of gods" who is worshiped by the [[other gods]]..…
For the LORD your God is [[God of gods]], and [[Lord of lords]]. Deuteronomy 10:17
Worship him, all ye [[gods]]. Psalm 97:7
O give thanks unto the God of gods. Psalm 136:2
No [[other]] god is like him.
Among the [[gods]] there is none like unto thee, O Lord. Psalm 86:8
He is better than the other gods.
Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the [[gods]]? Exodus 15:11
Now I know that the LORD is greater than all [[gods]]. Exodus 18:11
Thou shalt have no other [[gods]] before me. ... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to [[them]], nor serve them. Exodus 20:3-5
What [[God]] is there in heaven or in earth, that can do according to [[thy]] works? Deuteronomy 3:24
Great is our God above all [[gods]]. 2 Chronicles 2:5
Our Lord is above all [[gods]]. Psalm 135:5
The other [[gods]] will die someday.
The [[gods]] that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. Jeremiah 10:11
The Hebrew God judges the other [[gods]].
And against all the [[gods of Egypt]] I will execute judgment. Exodus 12:12
Upon [[their gods]] also the LORD executed judgments. Numbers 33:4
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty, he judgeth among the [[gods]]. Psalm 82:1
And will punish [[them]].
I will punish the multitude of No, and Pharaoh, and Egypt, with their [[gods]]. Jeremiah 46:25
The Lord will be terrible to them: for he will famish all the [[gods of the earth]]. Zephaniah 2:11
He is a jealous God (whose name is Jealous). So he forbids us to "go after" or worship any of his [[competitors]].
For thou shalt worship no other [[god(s)]]: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Exodus 34:14
Ye shall not go after other [[gods]], of the [[gods of the people which are round about you]]; (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you.) Deuteronomy 6:14-15
Thou shalt not ... go after other [[gods]] to serve them. Deuteronomy 28:14
If you give God glory, he'll go easy on you and all your other [[gods]].
Ye shall give glory unto the God of Israel: peradventure he will lighten his hand from off you, and from off your [[gods]]. 1 Samuel 6:5
And go not after other [[gods]] to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt. Jeremiah 25:6
But you must fear God more than all the other [[gods]].
The Lord ... is to be feared above all [[gods]]. 1 Chronicles 16:25
For the Lord ... is to be feared above all [[gods]]. Psalm 96:4
Don't sacrfifice to any of the other [[gods]]. (Or God will kill you.)
He that sacrificeth unto [[any god]], save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed. Exodus 22:20
Don't put any of the other [[gods]] before him.
Thou shalt have none other [[gods]] before me. Deuteronomy 5:7
Don't make a covenant with [[them]].
Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with [[their gods]]. Exodus 23:32
Don't burn incense to them.
I will utter my judgments against them ... who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other [[gods]]. Jeremiah 1:16
Or even mention their names.
Make no mention of the name of other [[gods]], neither let it be heard out of thy mouth. Exodus 23:13
Put away your father's [[gods]].
Fear the Lord ... and put away the [[gods]] which your fathers served. Joshua 24:14
And stay away from the [[god named Chemosh]].
Wilt not thou possess that which [[Chemosh thy [[god]] giveth thee]] to possess? Judges 11:24
But don't revile the other [[gods]].
Thou shalt not revile the [[gods]]. Exodus 22:28
Other people served other [[gods]] (as did Abraham's father Terah).
Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other [[gods]]. Joshua 24:2
And a witch once saw [[gods]] going up to heaven.
And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw [[gods]] ascending out of the earth. 1 Samuel 28:13
Always remember that people are [[gods]] too. (Jesus used this when he was accused of making himself a god.)
I have said, Ye are [[gods]]. Psalm 82:6
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, [[makest thyself God]]. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are [[gods]]? John 10:33-34
And the [[three gods in heaven]] are really only one god. (Don't worry about this one too much. It's a mystery.)
For [[there are three]] that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
@@benclark4823
One name: YHVH
The rest are titles
One of my favorite videos you've ever done! Please do more on prophecy!
Thank you, more planned this month
I always found it funny how everyone understands these differences such as the Kairos versus the Kronos and yet most don't understand the symbolism of Jesus, "coming on the clouds", during his return. Knowing that clouds represent the presence of God most people would just ignore the implications.
Old Testament comings of God in judgement often included clouds, lightning and fire. Sun, Moon and stars all not working and falling was a direct reference to Joseph's dream in Genesis and any Jew (His audience) would have known that, not the Moon turning red and massive meteor showers. American literalism is silly sometimes.
@@joiedelamoissonjoyofharves5225 I'm working on that too, but I have very little credit card debt, they're for unforeseen emergency expenses. Like I saved to buy tires, but used my credit card to pay for my deductible from when my car was stolen and they stole many of the parts including the windows. Luckily they left the old tires on, not worth much. I wished they'd stole them too, would've saved me $600.😆
Thank you, always learn new things from your videos, very valuable insights and information!
Thanks for putting together all this brother. It seems a lot of research went into putting this video together. God bless the work of your hand!!
Spectacular video as always, very in-depth and well researched!
Thank you
Absolutely fantastic video. The way you are able to compile and condense so much historical knowledge is incredible! You are a blessing!
Wow, thank you!
@@InspiringPhilosophy Yoooooo
Superb content! So thoroughly explained. Sheds tons of light. Thank you, for the research and sharing ‼️
This so important and yet most don't know this as I did not either I wish we could make a bulletin for all Christians to learn this. Thank you so much!
By the same line of reasoning, we could argue that Jesus won't ever come back if the conditional requirements aren't ever fulfilled.
No, the prophecy is certain that he will return. It just declines to give a timeline, a similar thing happens in Daniel when he is talking about the 70 weeks.
@@withlessAsbestosoh then we are delayed by Alot!
But for hope will lead us.
He is here...
Saying we’re delayed is making a presumption that God had a specific times in mind and that things are running late. But no, Good knows exactly when these things will happen, so it’s not that he’s delayed, he already knows when the conditions are going to be met. Don’t take the 70 weeks from Daniel’s prophecy and think that applies to this prophecy as well, it’s a massive leap.
Good video will share it with my mates also just finished watching your Tolkien video please do more commentary on such pieces of pop culture to diversify the content on the channel and so normies can engage more with the channel. Big up Michael and keep up the great work God bless! 🙏 👍
I will think about it, thank you
@@InspiringPhilosophy Nah bruv thank you, I almost apostatized a while ago until I watched your theistic evolution videos and your shorts refuting dawahgandists. God has really used you to help me and I'm sure you've done the same for many others. Thanks man honestly.
By this definition, prophesy is unfalsifiable. If you can't prove it didn't happen, how can you prove it did.
You can't point to hypothetical evidence that would prove you wrong and isn't there, because there is no evidence, even hypothetical, that could prove you wrong.
That’s fine. I don’t use prophecy as evidence for Christianity.
@@InspiringPhilosophy I can respect that. Which gospel do you believe then?
11 The Pharisees came and began to question Jesus. To test him, they asked him for a sign from heaven. 12 He sighed deeply and said, “Why does this generation ask for a sign? Truly I tell you, no sign will be given to it.” 13 Then he left them, got back into the boat and crossed to the other side. Mark
But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Matthew
54 He said to the crowd: “When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, ‘It’s going to rain,’ and it does. 55 And when the south wind blows, you say, ‘It’s going to be hot,’ and it is. 56 Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don’t know how to interpret this present time? Luke
Then Jesus said to him, “Unless you people see signs and wonders, you simply will not believe.”
John
@@dairyqueue he did many signs and wonders that werent prophecy
Excellent work exploring all these challenging passages. It is complex for sure.
On the lighter side, all the talk about Chronos put a silly image in my brain of Jesus realizing it's time to come back when His Outlook calendar reminder pops up. 😅
Jesus said that nobody but the father he said the sun didn't know the date of his return for the church
This can’t be used against him because he himself said that he didn’t know when he was returning. Btw he was 100% man and 100% God. But due to being 100% man, only the Father at the time had this knowledge of when he would return.
It’s used against him all the time. But he didn’t fail. ❤ And the time was revealed to him by the father - that’s what He passed to John, right? “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place… for the time is near… Surely I am coming soon.” But even before that, saying the day and hour wasn’t known didn’t mean the general timeframe wasn’t known. It’s all over the New Testament that it was near in their time. 🙂 “this generation,” “as you see the day approaching,” “it is the last hour,” “in these last days,” “in a very very little while the one who is coming will come and will not delay,” “you are not in darkness for that day to surprise you like a thief,” “be blameless at the coming of our Lord,” “you are our glory and joy at his coming,” “those who are about to inherit salvation,” “forty years…generation,” “hold firm to the end,” “have tasted the powers of the age about to come,” “on the verge of being cursed,” “show diligence.. to the very end,” “what is obsolete and growing old will soon disappear,” “Christ.. about to appear a second time,” “he who has promised is faithful,” “provoke one another to love.. as you see the Day approaching...” That was all written to a specific group of people. We vindicate Christ when we take him at his word. ❤
@@heartsandmindsathome
Amen my friend ❤
I was amused by some literature (can't remember the name) which had a minor plot of Jesus returning during the 60's and people of authority (police) liking Him as much as the ones He had to deal with the first time around.
He came as a man the first. Coming back as God the second time. But I can understand the amusement.
Was it godspell or something else?
@@brieannajones2667 I think it was Good Omens by Terry Pratchett
Thank you for the informative video! Your videos are a blessing.
I’m 7 minutes in and my presumption of the prophecy is already affirmed. I find the beliefs I had of God as a child were more true than what I’ve formed as an adult, not sure y that is, but you’ve put words to the feelings I had when I was young and helped me now realize I was right in my beliefs instead of naïve as I thought.
Awesome stuff! When will you do a video on the book of revelation and “end times”?
So, clear and needed. Understanding apocalyptic literature / language and its nature is so important to understanding Scripture. And that much language was used to emphasize a major shift or change culturally or nationally that would impact people in a major way. I believe we have to understand that people of the 1st century did see the end of the age and a major event and that was the destruction of the temple. We can’t really fathom how that event fulfilled prophecy, shook and ended the Jewish system of worship. That was a major judgment on the rejection of the Son of God by Israel. Unfortunately so many preachers / teachers have only a one sided view of this and many are dispensationalist and that is an issue in itself because it is totally inflexible and in many cases incompatible with Scripture. Moving away from fatalistic view of the faith and relationship with God renewed my faith dramatically!
Thanks for this!
This is interesting. Right now I'm trying to figure out if I can reconcile this with Calvinism, which I hold to. I think it's possible for the future to be conditional from our perspective even if it's not conditional from God's
I don’t see how this would be a problem at all for Calvinism.
Thomist theologians say that God uses the instrumental cause of our prayers to predestine people to heaven. Perhaps this is compatible with Calvinism or at least some forms of it.
(An example of the instrumental cause is me writing with a pen, the pen being the instrumental cause of the writing.)
Predestination doesn’t fit with Christianity or this understanding of prophecy
U have to be a dispensationist....John Calvin was wrong
@@somebodysomewhere5571 yea
Great job!
Thank you, Ip!
You're welcome!
Always love your content IP, would you potentially be interested in doing a video in the future on the Shepherd of Hermas text? Something akin to your Enoch or Thomas videos you did in the past.
loved the checklist!
That all tied together very well
Glory be to the Father,
and to the Son,
and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning,
is now,
and ever shall be,
world without end.
Amen.
So you believe God (Yahweh) sacrifice Himself (Jesus who is also Yahweh) to Himself (Yahweh) to change a rule He (Yahweh) made Himself for a quote unquote “”crime”” we didn’t commit??? 🙄
@@NickNameMatterso you say the rules haven’t changed right? Such as::🙄👉
Note all of these {used} 👈😨👉 to merit death in ancient times; however, with the destruction of the second Jewish temple, the Jewish Sanhedrin courts all but abolished the death penalty. In Israel (where Judaic religious courts still exist), capital punishment is allowed only during wartime and only for genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and treason (and has been employed only twice: against Meir Tobianski, who was later found out to be innocent, and against Adolf Eichmann, who deserved it).
Sexual acts::
>>Having homosexual intercourse between men (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13).
>>Committing adultery between a man and a woman (Leviticus 20:10-12, Deuteronomy 22:22).
>>Lying about virginity (Deuteronomy 22:20-21).
>>Being one of the majority of women who don’t bleed when losing their virginity (Deuteronomy 22:20-21).
>>Being the daughter of a priest and practicing prostitution (Leviticus 21:9).
>>Raping an engaged female virgin (Deuteronomy 22:25).
>>If an engaged female virgin, being raped in a city (Deuteronomy 22:23-27).
>>Being male and practicing bestiality (Leviticus 20:15).
>>Being female and practicing bestiality (Leviticus 20:16).
>>Having sex with your father’s wife (Leviticus 20:20).
>>Having sex with your daughter-in-law (Leviticus 20:30).
>>Having incestual sex (Leviticus 20:17).
>>Marrying a woman and her daughter (Leviticus 20:14).
>>Having sex with a woman who is menstruating (Leviticus 20:18).
A few of these crimes demand that the "sinners" be burned to death rather than stoned to death, the more usual form of capital punishment. One can wonder why these crimes in particular merit this especially horrible fate.
Food and drink::
>>Consuming blood (Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:10).
>>Eating a cheeseburger or anything that mixes meat and dairy (Exodus 23:19).
>>Sacrificing anything with yeast or honey (Leviticus 2:11).
>>Eating leavened bread (bread with yeast) during the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Exodus 12:15).
>>Eating fat (Leviticus 3:17).
>>Eating pork (Leviticus 11:7-8).
>>Waiting too long before consuming sacrifices (Leviticus 19:5-8).
>>Eating aquatic creatures lacking fins or scales (Deuteronomy 14:9-10).
>>Eating any meat not killed according to the Kosher practice (Deuteronomy 12:21).
>>Eating peace offerings while ritually unclean (Leviticus 7:20).
Religious::
>>Being a male who is not circumcised (Genesis 17:14).
>>Trying to convert people to another religion (Deuteronomy 13:1-11, Deuteronomy 18:20).
>>Worshiping idols (Exodus 22:20, Leviticus 20:1-5, Deuteronomy 17:2-7).
>>Practicing magic (Exodus 22:18).
>>Blaspheming (Leviticus 24:14-16,23).
>>Breaking the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, Numbers 15:32-36).
>>Consulting a psychic or spiritualist (Leviticus 19:31).
>>Being a psychic, medium, or spiritualist (Leviticus 20:27).
>>Astrology or astrolatry (Deuteronomy 4:19, Jeremiah 10:2).
>>Being a town that believes in another, non-YHWH god (Deuteronomy 13:12-15).
>>Giving one of your descendants to Molech (Leviticus 20:2).
>>Not being a priest and going near the tabernacleWikipedia when it is being moved (Numbers 1:51).
>>Being a false prophet (Deuteronomy 13:5, Deuteronomy 18:20, Zechariah 13:2-3).
>>Performing any work on the Sabbath (Exodus 20:10).
>>Going to the temple in an unclean state (Numbers 19:13).
>>Engaging in ritual animal sacrifices other than at the temple (Leviticus 17:1-9).
>>Manufacturing anointing oil (Exodus 30:33).
>>Violent and legal crimes::
>>Murdering a slave (Exodus 21:20).
>>Kidnapping and selling a man (Exodus 21:16).
>>Perjuring yourself (in certain cases) (Deuteronomy 19:15-21).
>>Ignoring the judgment of a judge or a priest (Deuteronomy 17:8-13).
>>Not constraining a known dangerous bull, if the bull subsequently kills a man or a woman (Exodus 21:29).
Parenting::
>>Striking your parents (Exodus 21:15).
>>Cursing your parents (Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9).
>>Being a stubborn, rebellious, profligate, and drunkard son (Deuteronomy 21:18-21).
Daily life::
>>Planting more than one kind of seed in a field (Leviticus 19:19).
>>Wearing clothing woven of more than one kind of cloth (Leviticus 19:19).
>>Cutting the hair on the sides of your head or clipping of the edges of your beard (Leviticus 19:27).
>>Touching the dead carcass of a pig (Deuteronomy 14:8).
>>Dressing across gender lines (Deuteronomy 22:5).
>>Cutting your bodies for the dead or putting tattoo marks on yourself (Leviticus 19:28).
Things that don’t go anywhere else::
>>Living in a city that failed to surrender to the Israelites (Deuteronomy 20:12-14).
New Testament::
Although many - probably most - Christians maintain the New Testament ultimately served as an abrogation of the stricter forms and practices of the Mosaic Law, it did codify a few new prohibitions unstated in the text of the Old Testament.
Note that none of these can be demonstrated to have been said by Jesus himself - indeed, as nobody was taking notes when Jesus was speaking, we have no real way of knowing what Jesus may have said about these things. For that matter, there is even debate about whether Jesus even existed.
However, it is also worth noting that, notwithstanding certain episodes where he is claimed to have interpreted laws in a relaxed way (e.g., the Sabbath working law), Jesus did not explicitly say the old laws were now invalid, and dispensations from following them largely came as a result of the spread of Christianity to non-Jews by Paul of Tarsus.
On the contrary, 😇👉Jesus endorses Mosaic Law in (Matthew 5:18), where he says, "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
>>Food and drink [New Testament]::
>>Consuming strangled things and blood (Acts 15:20).
Slaves::
>>Disobedience (Ephesians 6:5).
Women::
>>Speaking in church (if also a woman) (1 Corinthians 14:34-35).
>>Homosexual intercourse between women (Romans 1:26).
>>For a woman to pray without covering her head (1 Corinthians 11:5).
>>Teach (or possibly only teaching men)(1 Timothy 2:12).
Men::
>>Homosexual intercourse between men (Romans 1:27).
>>Praying with their head covered (1 Corinthians 11:4).
@@NickNameMatters Benny down bad 😂
Oh my Jesus, forgive our sins and saves from the fire of hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those most need of thine divine mercy, Amen
@@benclark4823well Jesus was 100% man at the same time being 100% God. So when He sacrificed Himself to God, His sacrifice becomes our sacrifice since He is reconciled to us in His incarnation. That’s 1. 2, I have no clue what you’re asking. Undoing a crime we didn’t commit? You mean sin? We do sin? Idk what you’re talking about
Wow wonderful, informative and inspiring video! I will definitely share this with my brothers and sisters in the Lord in hope that it will encourage them to seek more fervently to bring forth the will of God in their lives!
Fantastic breakdown. Well done
I think this problem is solved simply by understanding, partial preterism. There’s a difference in “comings”
One is speaking of the judgment of Jerusalem, and one is speaking of the end times. This is typical judgment language used all throughout the Old Testament.
Partially correct. The Lord came in AD70. But this coming was a second coming, which is for salvation, Heb. 9:28. There is no third coming in the scripture.
@@hillaryfamily
Is there an end of time?
Because this is what I believe the next coming is interpreted as.
@@hillaryfamily
It’s almost a preterist/idealist, or spiritual view of eschatology.
@@fisherstrong6 there is no end of time, only the time of the end. “While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.” Gen. 8:22.
In the new creation, in the new heavens and the new earth, there is still time, birth and death, Is. 65:20. Although died and resurrected individuals may not be married, nor marry or give in marriage, individuals who are alive in the age to come do marry and give in marriage. Time and seasons and months continue in the new creation, Rev. 22:1-2. As does evil and evildoers. And the healing of the nations. And evangelism. And weeks and months, Is. 66:23
@@fisherstrong6 it is called covenant eschatology. The end is not the end of time or the end of history, it is the end of the old covenant economy. The old covenant is or becomes the covenant of death, the covenant with death, Is. 28. The strong covenant, Dan. 9:24-27. This covenant was to be ended, terminated, broken, annulled, dissolved, divorced.
Praise the Lord for He is Great!
this is a great video awesome work
Helpful thank you!!
Excellent video! Let's preach the gospel to all nations!
Wait until you see the next video.
@@InspiringPhilosophy wohooo
Colossians 1:23 if indeed you remain grounded and steadfast in the faith and are not shifted away from the hope of the gospel that you heard. This gospel has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and I, Paul, have become a servant of it.
@@InspiringPhilosophy I think that Jesus was talking about the Abomination of Desolation in the Gospels. Which could be the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD.
IP you need a podcast!
thank you..may god bless you and your ministry
Good stuff!! Very impressive
Thanks!
The simplest answer is that the early gospel writers, especially Matthew, writing before 70 AD, put the words of Jesus together not realizing that the destruction of the Temple wasn't the same as the second coming. Jesus words of this "generation" refers to the fall of Jerusalem, not his second coming. There is no need to equivocate the meaning of prophesy. It was true that the generation didn't pass before Jerusalem fell at the hands of the Romans. He simply wasn't referring to the second coming at all. The early church simply out the logia together that gave that impression because it was not conceivable for them that the fall of Jerusalem and the second coming were not concomitant.
The simplest answer when people say "this prophecy means something slightly different than we initially thought" is that this is cope and recalibration
Otherwise you lose the whole point of "making novel predictions that only a god could come up with that isnt just humans and their optical illusions"
He returned in 70AD. He has returned. Many missed his first coming and now we are insensitive to his second. Look up Don K Preston, no one can beat him in debate about covenant eschatology.
Did apostle John missed it
Excellent presentation
Amazing work
Excellent video.
While this does not dislodge the case you made and make a better appeal for the imminent return, how should one respond to the claim that Mark 13:10 describes the Pentecost as the event that fulfills this? You've adequately made the case in other videos that "All" is often used hyperbolically to make a point.
I don’t that at all means the gospel was preached to all nations. The people are just initiating the great commission, not completing it
@@InspiringPhilosophy This might be where I tread into partial-preterist territory so sorry to take you with me...but it seems rather clear that Mark 13:10 is describing events that most definitely occurred in the lifetime of the disciples being put to stand to bear witness and brought to trial, etc. Therefore some could reasonably suggest that the gospel was preached to all nations when the disciples and many more began to speak in languages not their own to those who could understand them.
I don't think this point changes the point you've made in the video. I just don't know if it helps.
@@b1cook2 Paul declared the Great Commission fulfilled. In his time. The word had gone out to every creature, to the nations, to all the world etc. Not only that, it was filling the world with good fruit, in fulfillment of Is. 27. For this reason he said that the God would soon crush the adversary under their feet, i.e. the rest of Is. 27 would also be fulfilled soon, the slaying of the serpent dragon Leviathan. And the blast of the great trumpet, at the harvest of Israel.
@@hillaryfamily I am not sure I am following or finding a correction in what I stated. Admittedly, I may not be taking the time to make this position more clear.
The Great Commission being initiated or completed is not what is questioned. My question is an interpretation of Mark 13:10 that suggest this was fulfilled during the Pentecost as described in Acts 2.
Very interesting. I haven’t heard it that way, but it makes sense. I am curious how this fits in with IP’s eschatological beliefs. I had heard he was postmillenial, at least years ago, and wonder how this interpretation pairs with that and the preterism that often accompanies it.
Great video!
Great video @IP
@@theguyver4934 Hey Brother! Peace be upon you and your Spirit. Original Sin is already in the protoevangelion (Gen. 3:16). And in the earliest Christian texts such as Romans the atonement and Trinity are foundational theologies. Read 1 Peter and Romans, as well as Ephesians, and then come back so we can reason together.
If Jesus was referring specifically to the transfiguration I wonder why he bothered to mention a time frame given his return would have been in less than a week.
Its possible its in the same way he said "destroy this temple, I will build it up in 3 days" he meant his body, and it was a short time frame
So it's kind of like when you play a teamwork game and one person is lazy, so you get frusturated and wait till they finally start cooperating with the group?
Another great one ☝🏼
Well done, sir
Partial preterism, a view of eschatology held by a majority of Christianity until the 1850's, solves all these problems without compromising the holy text.
Mark 9:1 is actually a continuation of the end of chapter 8 where it says this:
Mk. 8:38
"If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.”
So this means 9:1 is referring to the Parousia and not the Transfiguration. Moreover, it's implausible to think some would die a mere six days later, which is when the Transfiguration occurred.
There are three problems with this.
One, of the 12 + 70 + all the other diciples, only three witnessed the transfiguration (Peter, James and John), and we know at least one of them (namely Judas) did not live to see either the transfiguration or the ressurection appeareances.
Second, Mark 8:38, 9:1, and 9:2 are all in continuation of one another, meaning that the tranfiguration is a taste of the parousia, for both concern the same event, namely the revelation of Jesus Christ in Divine Glory. And the fact that in the transfiguration we see Moses and Elijah literally representing the dead (Moses) and the living (Elijah) should point us to that direction. Not to mention that the Ancient of days in daniel is described the same way as Jesus in both the transfiguration accounts and in revelation 1.
Third, the word " (εν) δυνάμει" in greek, while it does mean "in power" depending on context, can also mean quasi-realisation. For example, if I were in a video call with a friend and said that, by virtue of technology, I was " (εν) δυνάμει" present, it would mean that I am quasi-present. In other words, even though I would not be fully present there, I would be very much acting (speaking and seeing and conversing) "as if I was already there". Likewise, the phrase in Mark 9:1 can be translated as "there are some among you that will not taste death untill they see the kingdom of Heaven as if it has already come". This also ties to the fact that the transfiguration images the escaton (the divine appeareance of Jesus, the living and the dead coming before Him, the theophanic cloud, the event happening in the summit of the Mountain etc)
@@kostpap3554 Where are the "holy angels" in the Transfiguration scene? And where is the divine judgment/reward which is implied in Mk. 8 but explicit in Matthew 16:27?
Respectfully I don't think that is a fair assumption. The preceding verse is about the second coming but not the passage as a whole. I actually agree its not the Transfiguration. My position is that this is referring to His Ascension and enthronement in Heaven and the sending of the Holy Spirit. In other words a fulfillment of the Son of Man prophecy in Daniel 7, which would explain why this conversation is always right before the Transfiguration, which also references that passage. Also not all of them lived to see that.
@@rockytopbritt Mk. 8:38 and Mt. 16:27 imply eschatological judgment and reward is to take place which is necessarily an end time event.
@@sweetjayzuz Mark 8:38 and Mathew 16:27 are talking about Him coming in judgement but Mark 9:1 and Mathew 16:28 are talking about "the Kingdom of God coming in Power" or "the Son or Man coming in His Kingdom (another Daniel 7 reference). That is directly related to but not the same as Him coming in Judgment.
Incredibly interesting, thanks ip
fire...good stuff brother.
Wow - seriously deep. Also, shows how important the ANE viewpoint is so important. Scripture is written FOR us, but it was written TO the people of the day. (H/t Dr. Heiser)
I think Jesus was arrested at a time when it was easy to arrest him, ie. when his prophecy was considered to have failed by the community he lived in. The same problem befell John the Baptist, failure of prophecy in the eyes of the community left them vulnerable.
Whether of not Jesus was correct, he was considered wrong, and this meant the community would not stand by him as his enemies moved against him.
Thank you, very helpful.
Really nicely done
“For the group, prophecy does not fail. It is simply misunderstood.” Case and point.
How convenient.
Ohh smart guy ...u got a better explanation
I personally think Christians should to take Preterist Eschatology a bit more seriously.
Amen!!
This! I wrote a comment as well covering some points and counterpoints.
Partial preterist Postmillennial not full preterism.
@@pipinfresh let's pray that's what he ment
Nah to the partial preterism. That’s still futurism.
The phrase “the kingdom of heaven is within you” is found in Luke 17:20-21 in the New Testament of the Bible. In this passage, Jesus was asked by some Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come. Jesus answered that God’s kingdom was coming, but not in a way that they would be able to see with their eyes. He said that people would not say, “Look, here it is!” or “There it is!” because God’s kingdom is within you.
This and the biblethinker channel are my favourites.
Excellent video. One thing I take issue with is when some interpreters assume that the "all these things" that Jesus said were to be fulfilled before "this generation" passes away in Matt. 24:34 includes the second coming.
A careful reading of the previous two verses, Matt 24:32-33, shows that the "all these things" Jesus spoke about being fulfilled in "this generation" were the signs that would LEAD UP TO the second coming - Matt 24:33 refers to the second coming as the "know that He is near, at the door" part of the sentence.
Then Jesus goes on to say a few sentences later that no one knows when the second coming will be, the day or the hour. So He never said His coming would be in that generation, only that the signs leading up to His return would be fulfilled in their generation - which I believe happened in and around 70AD. His full bodily return is still to come.
I personally think there will be a double fulfillment of the olivet prophecies and the book of Revelation - one at 70AD without the Second Coming and another that perfectly fulfills all the details of Revelation in the future, which will include Christ's return.
No, he was pretty it was near ..and even told high priest he would seen him...and the book of revelation all eyes would see him ....
How ?. They been dead for 2000 years ...and they saw none of those signs Jesus spoke about ...
Even Paul believe he would return ...nothing ...explain that
@@Moodboard39 then why many times in his epistles Paul thought he would die and be with the lord (Philippians 1, 2 Corinthians 5)?
@@connerdozier6689 I'll have to look it up. If true, wouldn't get a contridicition??
@@connerdozier6689 what about the angels? Telling the apostle Jesus would return? When Jesus was leaving? Caught in the clouds? The same way they see him leave same way he would return.? They saw it? No
you know...looking back on it all... for a "failed apocalyptic prophet"...Jesus seems fairly successful...
@@polystrate1 I mean one tends to be successful when one makes converts at the tip of the sword.
@@gaiusoctavius5935 LOL
@@polystrate1Muhammad isn't even a prophet lol
@@polystrate1 But Muhammad didn't claim that he would come back a second time and that he will righteously judge all of mankind. Even Muhammad said in the Quran that Jesus will return at the final hour to judge all.
@@polystrate1 LOL false Christianity was preached by John, peter, Paul and many other apostles not by sword like Islam which killed everyone
*Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …"*
*Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."*
Half way through, good video, but we have a difference of perspective.
With the 10 virgins and the delay - the emphasis is on readyness, and the sudden coming, not the delay.
It is out of place to put a major application of the teaching to take away "there may be a delay" rather than "we must wait for an indeterminant amount of time, and be ready throughout"
Excellent job.
Great video! How you dealt with delayed and partial fulfillment was clear as day. The allusions to God's plan of redemption and restoration as highlighted in Romans 9-11 was also a good touch.
Nope, his attempt to claim that the Lord was delayed waiting for Israel to repent was an abomination. The Lord said he would come, ready or not, to destroy the rebels and the wicked, and in particular to repay the old Israel that had shed his blood, in that generation (Mat. 23:29-39). Paul affirms not that the old Israel would rise from the dead in repentance and salvation, as a whole body, but rather he pointed out that not all who are descended from Israel are Israel (Rom. 9:6). He was from Israel, from the tribe of Benjamin (Rom. 11:1), and he was proof that God's promise to Israel had not failed and would not fail. Paul, as an elect Israelite, was rising up to new life, and with him the rest of the elect from Israel, as the remnant (Rom. 11:4-5). But the non-elect were hardened, and were an object of wrath, formed to be totally shattered, per Dan. 2 and Dan. 12:7. The all Israel that was to be saved was the all Israel that included the in-grafted gentiles and excluded the non-elect cut off branches.
The Lord clearly said he would not find faith on the land of Israel when he came back to it in judgement upon it: "when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the land?" (Luke 18:8). He would come to avenge his people who had cried to him "‘Give me justice against my adversary" (Luke 18:3) and Paul affirmed it would take place soon, i.e. soon to them, not us: "The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet" (Rom. 16:20)
@@hillaryfamily that's a convenient misreading of everything Paul said. He said that blindness in part happened to the Hebrews so that the light could shine. Then he said that those natural branches that had been rejected would be able to be grafted back into the tree.
Paul maintains a distinction between Jews and Gentiles because of origin and because of the root.
When the fulness of the Gentiles comes in then God will return his focus to Israel, and they will repent, and all Israel will be saved. That is a future event.
Jesus himself said, You will not see me again until you say blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.
Jacob's trouble will happen to break the power of the Holy people. He will help them to understand that Jesus really is the Messiah. Their trust in their sages will be broken.
Israel and the church are not one. The purpose for the existence of the church is simple: the door of salvation has been opened to all men. The church is the witness for Christ in his absence. She is to preach the gospel until the "fulness of the Gentiles comes in." Then, God will return his focus to Israel in the end and all of Israel at the end will be saved. It does not refer to both Israel amd the church, but the Israel of Paul physically.
@@nibs1989 no, it is not a convenient misreading. The claims you have made require, and have received, extensive, detailed and technical responses. But I am not up to writing up all the details here and now for you, sorry.
The best response is to redirect you to Eph. 2 and 4. Here Paul explicitly states the things you have denied in your interpretation of Rom. 9-11. Specifically, Paul made a number of “one” statements. There is one hope, one body, one baptism, one new man consisting of both those who were afar off and were not citizens of Israel, and those who were Israelite citizens. Both groups, the natural born and the naturalised citizens are equal members of the one body, and the one hope is the resurrection of this one body.
“Israel” is a political entity and a political construct, it has always been a mixed multitude from the days of the exodus, in terms of blood and family lines. Israel as a political construct is different under the Kingdom of God than she was under the post-exile Second Temple period. That old body, that old political construct is the old Israel. That entity is not saved, it is destroyed by the Kingdom of God (Dan. 2, 7, 9, 12; Is. 27 etc.). But the individuals were to be saved out of it, they would die to the old law and be born into or baptized into the new Israel. But only the remnant, the elect, a minority, do this. Wide is the road that leads to destruction, narrow is the road that leads to life and few find it. Nonetheless, Israel would fill the whole world with fruit, Is. 27, even as she becomes the dragon Leviathan slain by YHWH.
@@nibs1989 You may be right that Paul maintains some distinction between the natural branches and the in-grafted non-natural branches. But it does not follow that the distinction justifies any difference in treatment or fate. This is the same in modern times. A citizen of a country may have been naturally born a citizen, by being born to a citizen mother and a citizen father in the territory of the country. Or he may have been born the citizen of another country, and then been naturalised as a citizen of the country in question (and he may have renounced his old citizenship). So, we can categorise them according to this difference. But if you say that the two citizens are unequal in right and status, you will and should find yourself corrected in the most forceful terms. Both natural born and naturalised citizens are supposed to have the same rights and the same identity and to have the same hope in the country’s values and benefits.
This is Paul’s position and argument: there is one body, one hope, and equal treatment and status for all citizens. The hopes and aspirations of the formerly separated groups are fulfilled not cancelled, at least with respect to the Hope of Israel. But that doesn’t mean that all who were formerly identified with that old construct are actually members or going to become members of the body in which they are being fulfilled.
@@hillaryfamily I think we can categorize them in that way. The reason is that we cannot extrapolate a modern understanding of citizenship and then place it on the Biblical text. Was there any such thing as naturalization? We do not read that in Pauline letters. From the beginning the heavenly citizenship that we have is one we are born into. We are then adopted into it at the resurrection. We await that day and look forward to "the hope of our calling" because we will live with God forever. We are natural citizens from the beginning. This is the kingdom that Christ called the Jews to. But, he also would have a physical kingdom on earth and will fulfill all his promises to Abraham and to David. He still has to sit on the throne of his father David, which he has not yet done.
The promises for Israel proper are not found in the church. There are two distinct citizenships and two distinct bodies: the church and Israel. The church is a heavenly citizenship, Israel is physical. Israel remains physical, but still has unfulfilled promises that were made to them. Micah 5:3 explains why, it also explains why Jesus had to leave for a season and why the church was established.
Micah 5:3 comes in the context of the famously quoted Micah 5:2 which was a promise about where Messiah would be born. After the Messiah is born it says, "Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel."
Jesus gave Israel up for a season: to be led astray, have their temple destroyed, and for them to experience Deuteronomy 28-30. At the end of that they would begin to be ingathered again for one more judgment. The whole reason Israel began to exist in 1948 as a nation again was in order to signal the last phase of coming in of the fulness of the Gentiles. We are in those days. How long? Nobody knows, but I would venture to say that we are very close indeed to the 2nd coming.
Israel will endure its trouble and during that time she will become the witness for the world as the church has faded from the scene (taken away). Then at the end of the days, Israel will repent as it was foretold, "and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." (Zech. 12:10).
Christ did return in AD70. He and His Apostles were explicit that the end would occur within their lifetimes.
It was never about the judgment of the entire world as we pressume but the judgment and end of the old covenant world.
The 'delay' was approximately 40 years. Hence why there were scoffers when Peter wrote his epistles.
True.
“”Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.””
-Jesus telling people to trash the Old Testament as a whole (Matthew 5:17)-
"But that was the Old Testament!" is the claim that God was a mean drunk in the Old Testament but turned over a new leaf in the New Testament (and so Christians need not defend the horrific God of the Old Testament). Similarly, the claim that the law of Jesus superceded the law of Moses is used to absolve Christians of the duty to carry out Mosaic law.
The claim is a favorite tactic of Christian apologists when confronted with the violence and bigotry of the Bible. This claim faces two major problems: first, that the Bible and Jesus themselves disagree; and second that (although the New Testament is much less gruesome than the Old Testament) the New Testament still features violence and bigotry.
@benclark4823 This literally has nothing to do with anything. How many times have you copied and pasted these absurd lies? In fact, I’m willing to bet you stole it from a Richard Carrier book or something.
Pastor Mike Winger also has a good, hour long analysis of the transfiguration of Jesus titled “The Amazing Meaning Behind Jesus’ Transfiguration: The Mark Series Pt 30 (9:1-13)”
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IP, I was under impression that you were holding a partial-preterist-view. What made you change your approach? Catholic Church's interpretation on this prophecy makes the most sense to me:
-Matthew 24:1-34 points to Destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD with using apocalyptic language.
-Matthew 24:35-25:46 points to Parousia that is still in the future.
Considering that Jesus first gives detailed signs of "things taking place" and later emphases that no one knows the time and the timing being unexpected, there is a big contrast if these details would refer to the same event. So, it would make sense that The judgement of Jerusalem took place on the time of disciples' generation that was described in detail, but the time of parousia is unknown, but still in the future.
However, there are verses that need to be addressed to make this interpretation to work:
Matt 24:14 - "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in *the whole world* as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come."
-The greek word "Oikoumene" that is used in this verse refers to "civilized world" that during Roman Empire was used simply to describe the Roman Empire. The New Testament records apostles spreading gospel all around Roman Empire that time. I think it is reasonable to claim that the gospel WAS preached all around Roman Empire before 70 AD.
Luke 21:26 - "People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the *world* for the heavenly bodies will be shaken."
-The same greek word "Oikoumene" is used here.
Matt 24:21 - "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the *world* to this time, no, nor ever shall be."
-Here the greek word kosmou (cosmos) is used that refers to the Earth as a whole. But this is interesting verse that could be just hyperbolic language, but how you measure the amount of "tribulation"? Meaning suffering and distress. A greater distress than the Flood? Or the holocaust? This might be hard to determine. It's interesting that still to this day, Jews mourn the destruction of Temple at the Western Wall, not the flood or the holocaust. And historic accounts of the Siege of Jerusalem really paints the violent image what took place there in 70 AD. So, when looking into historic sources, I think "Great Tribulation" can describe the event in 70 AD even without being hyperbolic.
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@@rocketmanshawn Notice also what Paul says in Colossians 1:23:
"If indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the *gospel* that you heard, *which has been proclaimed in all creation* under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister."
The greek word ktisis that is used for "creation" here is referring to the act of founding or establishing:
1) Creation of Heaven and Earth.
2) Creation of living creatures
3) Creation of ordinance (authoritative order)
The same word ktisis is used in:
- 1. Peter 2:13 - "Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every *human authority* whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority."
- Romans 1:25 - "They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served *created things* rather than the Creator.."
- Mark 16:15 - "Preach the gospel to all *creation* ".
However, this verse seems to agree that the gospel WAS proclaimed all around the creation...whatever the creation means in this context. Because Paul is pointing to himself while mentioning that, I think it is plausible it's referring to a human establishment, the Roman Empire.
Preterism is the simplest and more reasonable explanation
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It's not a promise if it's conditional.
Paul makes comments twice in Romans, once in Colossians, and in 1st Timothy, that the gospel has been preached to all the nations, throughout the world. If Roman’s was written as many say in 57-58AD, there would have been nothing preventing the second coming of Christ. 🤔
That sounds like hyperbole and it is different author than Mark.
@@InspiringPhilosophy but you were quoting different authors making conditional prophecies as if it's relevant to the precise, falsifiable, unconditional prophecies of the end of time in the NT ?
@@InspiringPhilosophy Kenneth Gentry would like to argue with you on that one.
If every creature under heaven had been preached to by 57-58 AD, why did the disciples and apostles continue evangelizing and preaching the gospel to people even after that time?
Obviously, there were regions on the planet where people lived that Paul wasn't even aware of at that time.
@@InspiringPhilosophy Brother, there is another solution to the question of why Jesus promised to return within a generation. The solution is that he never made any such promise anywhere - neither in the first century, nor in the future. We assume that by "generation" he was referring to a lifespan. However, all one needs to do is turn back one page from Matthew 24 to see that by "this generation" Jesus wasn't talking about a period of time, but rather the lineage, or geneology, of the scribes and Pharasees.
The entire chapter of Matthew 23 is devoted to "this generation". It speaks of what they are guilty of and what their outcome will be. And notice in verse 36 he says "all this will come on this generation".
In Matthew 23 we see Jesus uttering seven "woes" against these people. It is in the last and final woe that he makes the first referce to the ancestors of the Pharasees:
"So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!"
In verse 35-36 we have the verdict and outcome of this generation:
"And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, *whom YOU murdered* between the temple and the altar. Truly I tell you, *all this will come on this generation."*
What this shows is that "this generation" has been around since the dawn of time! Jesus wasn't referring to any contemporary generation. Furthermore, notice that Jesus is speaking TO the people in front of him, calling them "this generation", and yet refers to something that extends way beyond the limits of a lifespan - he says "you" (i.e "this generation") murdered Zechariah, despite the fact that Zechariah lived some 500 years or so before any of them were even born.
This shows that those who mudered Abel, Zechariah, and all the other prophets were part of "this generation".
So what Jesus was actually saying in Matthew 24:34 isn't that everything would be accomplished within a lifespan, but that the passing away of "this generation" was not going to occur until "all these things" have happened. This lines up with what we see in the book of Revelation. The very last thing to occur before the new heavens and the new earth appear is the second death - when the wicked and unbelieving will be destroyed.
We are on the doorstep of Gospel being spread to all nations. It is Amazing!
the conditional nature of the parousia is interesting. I remember reading about a Gnostic sect (I forget their name) who did pretty much the complete opposite of these conditions, sinning rampantly with "sacramental" (their words not mine!) orgies and other such things, so to bring about the second coming sooner, when they should've been doing the exact opposite. of course for them, the material was nothing, and doesn't matter, so the sins of the flesh didn't compare to sins of the soul.
just an interesting point I was thinking of while watching. great video as always