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  • @JohnCotta-od8my
    @JohnCotta-od8my 3 місяці тому +141

    Ren put out a 32 min video a week before he released Kujo Beat Down explaining everything that happened. Kujo definitely deserved the "Beat Down".

  • @Nightangel8212
    @Nightangel8212 3 місяці тому +106

    Kujo's GF brought this on herself. She was playing nice with Ren and then spreading lies and fabricating documents in an attempt to smear him online.

    • @Punatik
      @Punatik 3 місяці тому +25

      Plus talking about how hard all this was on kujo’s mental health. AND jokingly’ threatening to break REN’s kneecaps.

  • @phylbrey1121
    @phylbrey1121 3 місяці тому +49

    If you’re getting bullied and you fight back ~ you are not the bully

  • @alexiaspaedt-mcintosh5311
    @alexiaspaedt-mcintosh5311 3 місяці тому +85

    Okay as I got farther I realized you do not know. So Kujo did a beat that Ren bought on Beat Stars with an unlimited license stating he own the claim. It had a stolen sample of the choir and they came after it. In turn kujo tried to get Ren to help absorb that well Ren's lawyer said nope this is on you. As it went further Kujo kept wanting more money and more of the master split. Kujo had copyright strike Sick Boi and the video was down. Kujo and his GF talked a lot of shit about Ren and so after it all came to a head Ren said nope you get no money from me and took his own song down. UA-cam later got involved and removed the strike and the video is back up. Ren was absolutely done with Kujo being a greedy human. Ren has a 36 minute video with all the receipts and screen shots if you all are interested. There is the quick story.

    • @matthewzimmerman5064
      @matthewzimmerman5064 Місяць тому +1

      First off, I agree with most of what you said. That kujo dude was mad because he was never paid the money he was owed from the publisher. Now we know that has nothing to do with Ren but the people speaking on REN’s behalf represent Ren. So having to wait well over a year to get the money you are owed and Ren never said he even got it but acknowledged that it was wrong and was trying to help him. Now the thing is if you’re a producer and you’re making beats and someone famous uses your beat and you still aren’t getting paid you would be mad. I don’t think Kujo understands enough that Ren has no control or obligation to even try to make it right so he is blaming Ren in his head and it’s probably why he didn’t want to do another one. The reality is that Ren has been correct the entire time, he has bent over backwards to try and smooth things over even though he didn’t have to and offered an amazing chance to give a finger to all of them with a collaboration but I think Kujo was not informed enough to realize what he did when denying it. I think he thought he might get stiffed again. Literally career over with that move and the public nonsense.

    • @CorgiDaddy2
      @CorgiDaddy2 9 днів тому

      @@matthewzimmerman5064 Every single rapper that I have seen react to this has stated that they'd never buy a beat from Kujo Beats after this.

  • @jacks9624
    @jacks9624 3 місяці тому +39

    The lying sample-thief duo tried to take full ownership of the SickBoi song, you know-title song of the album? They slapped Rens channel with a strike and yt took the SickBoi video down... Full drama. Ren tried to reason with Kujo, even offered to make a new song together on 50-50 split, but the fool rejected it... Well... Lawyers are dealing with it now, and this song... is how Ren dealt with the angst, frustration and rage.
    We didn't know we needed it, but f*ck yeah!

  • @benmclaurin3745
    @benmclaurin3745 3 місяці тому +40

    Ren bullying? In fact it is the other way around. You need to watch the video that Ren has that explains what this is all about. The fact is Kujo Beats and the girlfriend are the actually the bullies. Ren stood up to them and appears to be winning this fight. This song is how he vents about it. They deserved everything they got and if they don't stop there will be more.

  • @yepyepmaybe
    @yepyepmaybe 3 місяці тому +16

    This is Ren's way of fighting back at bullies

  • @kirsten3112
    @kirsten3112 3 місяці тому +12

    This was the perfect response. Watch the video Ren released a week prior to the KBD drop. Ren did everything he could to resolve it, including beyond what he was contractually, legally & morally obliged to do. Ren came with receipts.
    No bullying or hate required. Ren has got this handled. With class.

  • @botlus4727
    @botlus4727 3 місяці тому +40

    I usually like "blind" reactions. But in this case the background is pretty important to really enjoy "angry Ren".
    For not knowing the background your reaction was very good.
    Keep it up with Ren please
    Cheers from Berlin 👍🍀😎

    • @wanderingohm
      @wanderingohm 25 днів тому

      Ohh its fab isn't it, I've enjoyed watching it even though they came in blind, shows the message is conveyed. I do wish if they come in blind they relisten to sections if they have missed what he's said

  • @DocHogan
    @DocHogan 3 місяці тому +25

    "Kujo Beat Down" is three words, not 2 ("Kujo Beatdown" like in your title), and that's actually important here because the title is a double entendre (or even a triple); KujoBeats getting bodied ("Kujo Beatdown"), KujoBeats destroying his own career ("KujoBeat Down"), and Ren intentionally deciding to pull 'Sick Boi' containing Kujo's beat ("Kujo Beat Down")

  • @NightFogFilms
    @NightFogFilms 3 місяці тому +9

    For context for SICK BOI and KUJO BEAT DOWN, I suggest watching Ren's 35 minute video about his legal battle with Kujo first - ua-cam.com/video/K72abdMZbGA/v-deo.htmlsi=RcdWPcyyvVdvEkl2

  • @francesdoll4039
    @francesdoll4039 3 місяці тому +24

    Ren just did a live performance last night of a version of Money Game 2 for Sky Arts Awards . He owned that stage.

  • @wembley636
    @wembley636 3 місяці тому +8

    Fear Me, See Me, Free Me, Bleed Me, Legally - yep lets rap this up.

  • @coleeg69
    @coleeg69 3 місяці тому +36

    So Ren made a 35 min video explaining this... Basically Ren bought a beat from beat stars (unlimited, and 1 time purchased) from Kujo. Kujo stoled the choir sample you hear in SickBoi. He then for some reason is attacking and suing Ren to give a percentage of SickBoi to him. Kujo also has his girl commenting and spreading lies on reddit and UA-cam about the contract. She even faked/edited the contract saying all lies and said messaged Ren saying she would break his kneecaps. Ren offered Kujo the opportunity to make a new song and split it 50/50 and he said no and even says Ren music sucks. Ren has that video explaining it and showed every texts and recipes so there's no hiding that Kujo is in the wrong. Kujo Beatdown was perfect art there diss.

  • @Dreadbane
    @Dreadbane 3 місяці тому +4

    Ren acquired unlimited license to a beat for the Sick Boi track from a guy called KujoBeats. But that beat included an illegal sample from a choir. They came after Ren, Ren's lawyer's said hey Kujo, this is on you, you have to pay for this.
    Kujo was having none of it and started going on the offensive, asking for more money. There was an issue with the publishing, something about content ID if I recall, so Ren's team was also in the wrong. Kujo's team filed an illegal copyright strike on Sick Boi and had it taken down.
    Anyways, Ren being Ren, he wants this man to get paid his due as well. He said sure man, we'll make sure the publishers pay you what you are owed. But that wasn't enough anymore, they wanted more. Ren wasn't having it, but he did make an incredible offer to Kujo. He told him let's make another track together, and we'll split that 50/50 and it'll get my fans behind you. But this man isn't very bright, he refused and asked for more. And then more. And then more. By the end of it, they were threatening to take 100% of the master.
    Not only that, but he was making up shit online. Calling Ren's character into question. Calling him a liar, calling him a coward. And his girlfriend was posting shit too. Making up clauses in the contract. Ren had a chat with her, and it she seemed amicable, then the next day she posted more shit about him online.
    Obviously, if you want the full story, check out Ren's video on it.
    "[...] he must have asked for some new percentages or something?" -- Yup. Greedy bastard.
    "[...]or just messing with your art..." -- Yeah, he took down Sick Boi, illegally. That really pissed off Ren.
    "[...] or trying to ruin your reputation with people." -- Yeah, he and his girlfriend were both doing that.

  • @sharis9095
    @sharis9095 3 місяці тому +12

    This wasn't a diss, it was a warning. Plus Ren needed to work out his anger. As artists they video Ren put out would be worth watching. It could save you a lot of money one day if you ever buy a beat. Legal fees alone must be getting costly.

  • @steviehinton9403
    @steviehinton9403 3 місяці тому +6

    Cliffnotes version: kujo produced a beat with a stolen sample (Bulgarian choir) and sold it on Beatstars with an unlimited license. Ren bought it and used it in his Sick Boi track. Sick Boi blew up. The choir wanted money from Kujo for their stolen sample (rightly so). So he chased Ren down for more money. Ren offered all kinds of stuff and he turned him down. Then he decided to pull Sick Boi down on UA-cam and threatened to take 100% of publishing and master that he isn't entitled to. His girlfriend jumped in and threatened to break Ren's knees. Watch Rens video explaining it. He brings all the receipts.

  • @A-fn4pq
    @A-fn4pq 3 місяці тому +8

    It is much better if you know the background. The beginning starts similiar to Sick Boi which was produced with the beat from KujoBeats.
    Before Ren did a diss track with Dotty. That one is really funny.

  • @MotherofUnicornsProductions
    @MotherofUnicornsProductions 3 місяці тому +7

    - Ren bought a beat with an unlimited license from a guy named Kujo Beats and creates a song called Sick Boi.
    - he releases it after Hi Ren blows up and it becomes the title track to his UK number 1 album, lots of people relate to the song a lot
    - Kujo is like : Yo sick track, glad to be part of your art - so far so good.
    - One day the song gets a copyright strike out of the blue and YT takes it down.
    - Ren contact's Kujo, saying what happened to my song?
    - Here's where things get complicated: Kujo nicked one sample in the beat and never paid the sample owner a penny/cent - the owner wants royalties
    - Apparently Ren's publishing team forgot to credit Kujo as co/producer for a while which was rectified fairly quickly
    - Kujo did the copyright strike to get Ren's attention, apparently but had no grounds to do so because he created the copyright issue by stealing the sample. Ren didn't breach copyright laws.
    - There is a huge back and forth between Ren, Kujo, lawyers, publishing, Kujo's girlfriend gets involved....
    - According to Ren he tries to stay amicable as much as possible, willing to make concessions and go above and beyond of what is expected but also doesn't want to budge on some principles (like splitting the master 50-50)
    - Ren even offers to create a brand new song with Kujo and split that one 50/50 as sort peace offering/new beginning. It would have given Kujo lots of clout and brought the renegades into the mix - they tend to support anyone Ren's doing collabs with - Kujo refuses
    - The exchanges get more heated, the girlfriend keeps posting nasty things about Ren on public platforms, threatening Ren with physical violence, spreading lies
    - A good chunk of this is happening while Ren is prepping for his first solo show in 5 years which will be in front of a huge crowd and as we all know he's been through a lot both physically and mentally... the whole situation just sucks.
    - Despite Ren's efforts no peaceful solution can be found and fans keep asking why the song has been taken down which leads Ren to publish a lengthy explanation and the track you just reacted to.
    - Some elements of the Kujo Beat Down both sonically as well as cinematography related to the song Sick Boi. It's back up and worth listening to, to catch all the Easter Eggs.
    Worth mentioning the Dotta reference in the Kujo Beat Down: A fellow rapper (King Dotta) who Ren had a little almost spat with but which was peacefully resolved and they're good now.

    • @TJTROY-wy6dd
      @TJTROY-wy6dd 3 місяці тому +1

      Best explanation I have seen for anyone who didn't watch the 30min video. wow

  • @ella_lefttheroom
    @ella_lefttheroom 3 місяці тому +23

    You only got half of the story. Please watch his 30 min. explanation video on this topic or some other fan has probably some c&p text for you. But watching the other video will clear up 100% of everything in this video and makes it 100x better. Big love 💜

  • @GoodGirlGone
    @GoodGirlGone 3 місяці тому +11

    New genre unlocked: welcome to diss theatre 😂😂😂

  • @alexiaspaedt-mcintosh5311
    @alexiaspaedt-mcintosh5311 3 місяці тому +11

    Do you know the back story of this? Kujo and the copyright claim and Kujo having sick boi taken down? There is a lot of backstory on this.

  • @AnitaMc2-s6q
    @AnitaMc2-s6q 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the reaction! Ren and his team are definitely putting out quality music/videos!

  • @chguardi
    @chguardi 3 місяці тому +16

    Great reaction, thanks for posting. You have to check out his rap battle with King Dotta. Dotta went after a few reactors and drug Ren into it so Ren was like "I'll play, here's a battle rap." Only the way Ren can. Stay safe

    • @angelaprzybylski1425
      @angelaprzybylski1425 3 місяці тому +1

      Get the facts straight. Ren started that with Dotta it was good fun and they both have a lot of respect for one another

    • @chguardi
      @chguardi 3 місяці тому

      @@angelaprzybylski1425 lol I think I said “play” and didn’t want to give anything away. Not sure which fact aren’t straight so relax

  • @francesdoll4039
    @francesdoll4039 3 місяці тому +7

    Ren did everything here including directing.

  • @polarmoss
    @polarmoss 3 місяці тому +5

    Great reaction guys!! It’s fun to see you work through what is going on. Thx!!❤

  • @mrsainsburys1
    @mrsainsburys1 3 місяці тому +5

    Great reaction, lots of background, Ren smashed it and gave himself some head space, thank you 🙏🐊❤️🦉👍

  • @christina_ellis
    @christina_ellis 3 місяці тому +6

    LOVE the new song my guys

  • @hetherpickwell5174
    @hetherpickwell5174 3 місяці тому +4

    You definitely need to watch his vid explaining everything

  • @karlalyne3558
    @karlalyne3558 Місяць тому

    Keep reacting, guys! Thank you!

  • @docdurdin
    @docdurdin 3 місяці тому +4

    Go back to find out what, why, where and when. Checking out your jam.

  • @toniyoung5131
    @toniyoung5131 3 місяці тому +1

    The characters at the beginning are the two sides of himself. Kujos girlfriend inserted herself in the situation, by posting fraudulent details about a contract and by threatening to break Ren's knees.

  • @sadie376
    @sadie376 3 місяці тому +1

    "Should I spaz out on him real quick?"
    Yeah, I recon so...

  • @rw9019
    @rw9019 3 місяці тому +2

    Kujo sold a stolen beat, tried to extort Ren,
    filed an illegal copyright strike,
    caused Ren to loose thousands of dollars and the gf threatened to have Ren's legs broken.
    You got it wrong dudes.

  • @johndugger1028
    @johndugger1028 3 місяці тому +3

    Kujo is the reason Sick Boi was taken down

  • @smith06374
    @smith06374 Місяць тому

    I love that you guys figured this out in real time! 🔥

  • @ridgeback4374
    @ridgeback4374 3 місяці тому +4

    gotta check out "Dumb King Come" as well

  • @jacks9624
    @jacks9624 3 місяці тому +4

    Oh, bros, the snippet you plugged in was soooo gd cool and fitting! Dark night of the soul? Perfect!

    • @madebyTHVS
      @madebyTHVS  3 місяці тому +1

      We really appreciate that

  • @coleeg69
    @coleeg69 3 місяці тому +7

    Yeah react to rens first "diss" song to King Dotta.

  • @tomothywalker
    @tomothywalker 3 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant how, as artists, you could pick up what must have caused Ren to react like this. And it wasn’t *or* those things you mentioned… it was *and*. Loving your reactions gents, and imma gonna check out your vids because that snippet was artistic AF!

  • @ShavidDerf
    @ShavidDerf 3 місяці тому +5

    Hey guys. I do like your reactions, so I don't want this to be taken the wrong way. "Let us know in the comments" is one of the worst things reactors do. We al literally have computers in our pockets these days. I find that during a morning poop is the best ti.e to do my own research. No hate here guys. Big love!

  • @Nanersbananers
    @Nanersbananers 3 місяці тому +1

    Ren taking down the greedy one person at a time.

  • @anthonyirvine1881
    @anthonyirvine1881 3 місяці тому +1

    Ren has so many music videos agaisnt greed. And kujo, well hes everything ren has always spoke about. And ren being ren tried to help him out. Crazy career suicide, he aint wrong. Who wants to work with someone that steals samples and then asks for % of rens catalogue 🤣 madness

  • @peterveste6976
    @peterveste6976 3 місяці тому

    This is fire thank you ❤❤

  • @kbmcw70
    @kbmcw70 3 місяці тому +2

    Kujos girlfriend even said she was going to flt to London and kneecap him. Then put lol at the end. As if to say that makes it alright. She also accused him of lying and kujo said he was a coward. They were all behind Ren's back dissing him spreading misinformation. When Ren tried his up most to sort things out!
    Found you guys through the Ren reactions. Sharing the love ❤️ Liked and subscribed 👍😊👍♥️

  • @nada-8-4-2
    @nada-8-4-2 3 місяці тому +1

    As per below, of course the fans know! We are Renegades! Kujo even went after 100% of Sick Boi master rights.

  • @SickBoiRENegade
    @SickBoiRENegade 3 місяці тому +1

    Ren: 🫒Let's collab and make lots of money and get my fans on your side!
    Kujo: 🤡Naw, I'd rather be broke and hated and destroy my career!
    Ren: 🔪🐷🪑💀

  • @sampanther8854
    @sampanther8854 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing❤️✌️ don't mess with the Dark Ren 😜 and don't be greedy 👍

  • @nicolefagala3270
    @nicolefagala3270 3 місяці тому +3

    Love your faces😂😂❤❤

  • @ketchum.micole
    @ketchum.micole 3 місяці тому +2

    Read the comments below, you'll get a quick summary. I'll just give one input. It all boils down to one thing, money. Kujo didn't expect Sick Boi to be successful, when it blew up he saw $$$. Kujo is a thief, why Ren was nice to him at all is baffling.

  • @johndugger1028
    @johndugger1028 3 місяці тому +1

    that was a digital mass murder

  • @RafaelP2000
    @RafaelP2000 3 місяці тому +1

    You guys should react to "ren x chinchilla - chalk outlines (live)" to see the more singing part of Ren

  • @talosdarkbane2432
    @talosdarkbane2432 3 місяці тому

    Okay to sum it up Kujo put out a beat with copyrighted material from a Choir in it and the Choir went after him for royalties. Kujo then could not afford to pay the Choir so he came up with some half baked idea to go after Ren for the money since Ren bought a licensing agreement for the beat for his famous Sick Boi song . Kujo stated Ren never paid him and told him he wanted half the master revenue of Sick Boi. Kujo even went so far as to copyright takedown Ren's sick boi video off UA-cam. Kujo girlfriend then proceeded to trash talk Ren all over social media and make false accusations .The reality though is the production company never paid Kujo what he was owed for the licensing fees but the bigger issue is that Kujo sold an illegal beat to the production company and eventually to Ren. This is why he came out with the dis video.

  • @larrywoodard2639
    @larrywoodard2639 3 місяці тому +1

    Fire.

  • @illuminestra3804
    @illuminestra3804 17 днів тому

    🥰🥰🥰

  • @robingayle68
    @robingayle68 3 місяці тому

    I've seen this called diss theatre 😂 it reminds me of Greek tragedy 😂❤

  • @briannafey
    @briannafey 3 місяці тому +1

    After watching your "Dark Night of the Soul", I would love to see you react to "Blind Eye" (Live) M.C. Sessions version with Ren and Sam Tompkins-- because your own talent seems to combine a bit their different deliveries together into one.

  • @Mielikki-ng7zu
    @Mielikki-ng7zu 3 місяці тому

    I love these reactions, Ren actually talks like most people in the UK when they are pissed off in this track, this whole stiff upper lip is the posh boys, normal lads be like this :)

  • @robmarar
    @robmarar 3 місяці тому +7

    Love Ren Love You Guy's, couldn't stand watching you try and breakdown something you're clueless about making me more & more irritated as the time went by. Stopped 1/2 through case you were both yucking my yum of this video. 😝🤣as of now there are 41 comments up and I'm guessing 33 of them are either trying to breakdown the situation or telling you to watch Ren's video. IMHO, watch the video cause it allows you to enjoy and understand what you just watched 1000x more then where your at siting now.✌

    • @jodibetty6987
      @jodibetty6987 3 місяці тому +1

      I made a similar comment yesterday, and unsubbed and said so. They must have deleted 😂

  • @piwaka50
    @piwaka50 3 місяці тому

    Should have watched Ren's video leading up to this dudes..

  • @reviewandreactionvideoswit7200
    @reviewandreactionvideoswit7200 3 місяці тому

    Nice

  • @weshall5679
    @weshall5679 2 місяці тому

    You gotta react to Ren 'Losing it'

  • @sarahirwin8912
    @sarahirwin8912 2 місяці тому

    Did you guys check out the reason behind this yet? Kujo AND his gf got off easy, in my opinion. You really need to look into what his girlfriend was saying. She was saying violent, vicious things. Being called a slu+ is nothing in comparison.
    They're thieves, liars, and out to harm Ren. That's like attacking and caging a lion cub. But that cub grew up, got sick of the abuse, and fought back. How can anyone blame the abused lion?

  • @CorgiDaddy2
    @CorgiDaddy2 9 днів тому

    PSA: Kujo and Kujo Beats are 2 different people. Kujo actually likes Ren. If you want to see a fun diss track, look for Dumb King Come.

  • @user_20223
    @user_20223 Місяць тому

    Please do ‘freckled angels’ and the new one ‘slaughter house’

  • @abbymathews5088
    @abbymathews5088 3 місяці тому

    Kujo is over. That’s all that’s relevant. He destroyed his own career. Ren was so tolerant and kind to Kujo. An artist would have to be insane to work with Kujo after what he put Ren through. 😉❤️✌️

  • @nigeltrusk4722
    @nigeltrusk4722 3 місяці тому

    How about getting some mics that work.

  • @smith06374
    @smith06374 Місяць тому

    Ok but WHERE is the Sick Boi reaction!!!!!

  • @Drtywhtboy
    @Drtywhtboy 2 місяці тому

    Check out the King Dotta Dis

  • @robertovasquez1538
    @robertovasquez1538 3 місяці тому

    Guys just a humble advice: you should never do a reaction without background. This video is one in its kind because of the previous facts.

  • @ljwethington4162
    @ljwethington4162 3 місяці тому

    He tried to steal Sick Boi

  • @patreceski7198
    @patreceski7198 2 місяці тому

    Check out genesis

  • @Steve78joesph
    @Steve78joesph 3 місяці тому

    Watch Ren video 32min

  • @alanmai5656
    @alanmai5656 3 місяці тому

    react to the 30 min with Ren and why KuJo i a noob end

  • @belindamelville2270
    @belindamelville2270 3 місяці тому

    ❤❤😅😅

  • @Codex7777
    @Codex7777 3 місяці тому +1

    A video is not real life. You do know the difference between fact and fiction, right? :) In real life Kujo (and his girlfriend) were behaving like complete c***s to Ren, while Ren was behaving like the decent man that he is and doing everything he could and more, to resolve the situation, even though he wasn't at fault for anything. The disclaimer at the end of the track was aimed at his fans, as he doesn't want his fans harassing Kujo.
    It helps if you know what you're talking about, before talking about it. Empty virtue signalling is just that, empty...

  • @heikebroy8692
    @heikebroy8692 3 місяці тому

    😂🔥❤🔥

  • @dianadurfey
    @dianadurfey 2 місяці тому

    Ren did not in any way bully Kujo. If you don't know the situation, you should find out about it before making judgements. Kujo and his gf brought everything in this video on themselves. You should never start something you can't back up. Especially when you are messing with someone's art, reputation, and other things. Ren tried for months to sort this out and bent over backward for this ass. Offering a new song and splitting it 50/50. Kujo said no I want at least 15% of the masters of Sic Boi, and if you don't agree with that, we will come after 100% of it.

  • @leonbrooks2107
    @leonbrooks2107 26 днів тому

    Kujo Beats messed with Sick Boi. They got annihilated by Sick Boi.

  • @TheDullMansClub
    @TheDullMansClub 2 місяці тому

    as presenters of this type of content, you really should've done your research. I think you guys have potential to create a great reaction channel, but you seem to be jumping the gun too much. Understand your artists before you react, the content will flow after. And dropping your own rap track half way through a reaction is disrespectful to any artist you are reacting to, do it at the start or at the end away from the main content.

  • @FonWin
    @FonWin Місяць тому

    maybe look into the back story before demonstrating your ignorance.