Building and Painting Vosper MTB 77 1/35 Italeri: Tips for painting large ships without an airbrush
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
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In this video i am building the Italeri 1/35 Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat 77 with the related figure set from Italeri as well.
The kit makes a good display once finished, but I wanted to challenge myself and try if i can make a large ship model, but without using my airbrush.
You can decide for yourself in the end if it worked out, but i wanted to show people that you don't need an airbrush for 1/35 ship models - it can be done only using paint brushes, oil and acrylic paints as well. Maybe not in the same quality, but it makes for a nice boat.
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Turned out looking great ! The days before airbrushes, the brush did the job and weathering at the sametime 😊😊😊😊
With enough practice you can achieve results as good as airbrushed, but i'm a little out of exercise with paint brushes so its a challenge :) Thanks for the compliments!
I think you did a great job. I was a bit shocked when you said I'm going to be brush paint it but your a braver man than me. I think it gives it a great worn look . Very nice
Luckily the brush painting helped the battered look! if it was in 1/350 scale, it would not have been a good way! But its good to know if you don't have an airbrush, you can still try those subjects
British Torpedoes were plain steel but well greased. In some pictures this grease is a dirty brown and might even have been copper grease to stop rust at sea and to help lube the thing in the tube. That is probably where the instructions got the idea it should be a copper coloured body but an oily or greasy unpainted steel is correct for the body. I should say though the propellers of both British and German torpedoes were almost always brass. Though I would reply since you asked in the video. great job by the way.
G'day Fun, I've been modelling since I was about 10 but had to give it a break when I was in the RAAF. I've been modelling ever since I got out and now, I'm 67. I only purchased my first airbrush and compressor last year. I always used brushes and I prefer large models. I hope you will take some well-intended, friendly advice, as you said you've only been modelling for a few years.
It's always a good idea to read the instructions TWICE and make notes or use a highlighter for the decisions you want to make on your model on the instruction sheet.
It helps you not to forget things like that decal behind the PE on the control panel.
You're pretty good with brushes and I think if you enjoy that you should continue.
Brush painting can hide a multitude of mistakes and there's never any overspray.
I basically use my little compressor to lay down primer coats that make the paint applied with brushes appear to have greater depth. Dry brushing is also another effect you can't really do with an airbrush.
I do mostly WW2 and Cold War aircraft but I don't go heavy with dark panel line undercoating. During my time in the RAAF I was mostly around our two C-130 squadrons and even though they were over 20 years old when I first worked with them, the bare metal sections didn't really have all that much variance in the panels. Of course, we kept our Hercs immaculate, inside and out, no matter how busy they were with operational sorties.
I’ve modelled our Hercs, as they were before and after they went into full camo and then the all-grey liveries. No matter what paint scheme I used I never had to weather them heavily, apart from the engine exhaust marks and door handles and fuel filler caps, etc.
Of course, those were tips for aircraft builds but much of that kind of thinking can be applied to ships and even armour. Armour is expected to be dirty around the tracks and you can go to town on those but, as with any model, one just has to give a bit of thought about what items, on the model, would realistically get the most 'hands-on' wear.
Like the tools on a tank or the steps (or ladders) up on to an aircraft. Similarly, with the doorways, hatches and ladders, anchor chains on ships etc.
I reckon you've got a good knack with hand brushes and you should pursue that talent and use your airbrushes where they can be used to apply unique effects one can't get with a hand brush, or to save time on large, repetitive paint jobs, like primers etc.
I only use PE if I reckon adding it to a model will really enhance the overall look. Some PE is ridiculously tiny and don't do a lot for the finished effect so, sometimes, I leave some out.
A really good bloke to follow on UA-cam is 'Harry Houdini's Models'.
He's got some brilliant techniques and he likes to encourage people to approach their model builds from different perspectives. He's heavily into ships but he's very good at all kinds of builds. Well worth a look.
Cheers, and all the best, 'Fun', Bill H.
P.S. I think the different colours on the torpedos is just a difference between torpedo marks. As to the crew. I don't think the sailor tending to the torpedo would stand outboard of the torpedo; too much chance of him going in the drink! Also, I don't think the Skipper, the bloke in the big coat, would have any reason to be up on the bow. His spot would always be at the control station. Just my opinions of my brief contacts with the RAN. Also, on the torpedoes, and any other pics of old WW2 details; it's best to look out for coloured pics but keep in mind that during the war most photography was in B&W and some pics were coloured by hand later then published in books and magazines.
On the other hand, during WW2, nearly 90 percent of the film stock used in war zones was actually colour; it was cheaper back then. Newsreel footage from the services used to have to be converted to B&W so it could be shown in Newsreel Theatres, which is the only place people could get their war news before TV and in addition to the radio.
Cheers, again! Bill
My hat is off to you sir for having the guts to do this! I think it turned out good. the hand brushed patina gives it a weathered look.You have to think outside the box and experiment instead of going with what everyone else does. Maybe you will come up with a Technic that sets you apart from everyone. The heck with the naysayers. Keep pushing the envelope i say.
Thanks very much! I'm glad you like it! I like the look as well, on this 1/35 boat - but i dont think i will dry brush painting on bigger ships as the brush strokes could then lead to ugly finishes - it was a good experiment, though! and a good reminder how much harder modelling must have been decades ago when airbrushes werent around or too expensive
Mr, you can use spray can from tamiya for coloring the boat, they have Hull red and grey color for mostly Japan warship and wide range of color for the other ships.spray can will be a little bit expensive but it is good for one who hasn't a pump and spray gun.
great build there my friend looks amazing great paint and weathering
Thank you I think brushing works very well with this model and I having a go at a 1/72 version you gave me some nice tips on how to go about it, I like the weathering you have done and will try and do some thing similar. 😀
I think it turned out good. I likened it. I hand painted 700scale Tamayi PRINCE OF WALES some years ago. I really enjoyed it! Really happy with results.
Peter again excellent build. Those boats took a beating in the North Atlantic and the crews painted them when they could and used what was available. I especially liked the rust on the topside on the boat. What really set this build off was the crew. I could tell you put some timee in that part of the build. The guy driving the boat is called a helmsman. Again another awesome video and build. Have a great week and stay safe and healthy. My best to you and your family. 👍👍🇦🇹🤝🇺🇸
Hi Chris! Thanks! Ah, helmsman, should have known that! do you know who of the guys in blue is the captain and what the other's function is? or are there other designations with such small boats? I was in italy last summer and had a small boat tour and remembered that rust accumulates in all the edges and floor, so i thought that would look cool!
@@funinscale2892 not really sure, I would guess two officers and the rest would be enlisted. I think on a small craft a crewman would have multiple duties, gunner, helmsman, corpsman (medic) ect. Hope this was helpful.
@@chrisC052 Yes, very interesting! thanks for the info! i assumed the one with the binoculars is the captain because he looks most important :D
amazing work this really shows that you don't need expensive equipment such as airbrushes for a great model.
Nice job, son. Really nicely done resulting in a model to be proud of.
I was concerned when I saw the state of the first hand brushing but with weathering (excellent by the way) it turned out really well. Very well done. I may start mine tomorrow - you’ve motivated me. Take care, Rob from the U K
Thanks very much! I have to admit, it took some time to enhance the hand painting, and also, i know there was much to be desired when considering precision in painting, there were some mispainted spots, especially on the deck. But i think the hand painted texture gives it a cool look!
Nice work. Just started to build MTB 74.
Your vid will help me a lot, as it has many common parts.
Good Day Modelcomrade.
A nice big model.. I believe that is my next buy on the Modelshop near me🤗😃🍻💪have a nice weekend
Great job. The figures are very detailed. Much better than the ones in the L.C.V.P.
This is the type of torpedo boat they modified into the PT 73 for McHale's Navy back in the early 1960's.
Nice model.
HI just come across this and this model is next on my build list. You did a great job. I did the Schnell boat 100 and only used brushes and I think the effect on what were poorly maintained hard working ships looked much better than an airbrush which I never use. I always buy the Tamiya spray cans and use that a lot less hassle. Painting by hand I think almost does half the tired look of the ship for you as they were not perfect and the model should reflect that. Really good well done.
Very nice Build! I only started doing this hobby a few years ago, I have learned many different techniques and this was one of them. I have seen with Tamiya's dark sea grey were you can just use it right out of the bottle and it won't leave any brush streaks.
Very nice video. The paint on boats really takes a beating. Sailors are constantly brush painting to keep the rusting to a minimum. Your technique gives a more real life look than spraying. See you next time
Agree Jeff, during the war, she would have been beached near the base of the dock at high tide, and as soon as tide started rolling out, crew would have had about 2 hours to get hull paint on. "Rough brush strokes" is putting it mildly. Personally think it came out looking good and real close to old time photos I've seen as a kid of Grandpa's friends. Well done!
Thanks! I'm glad it turned out this way, some time around the beginning of the painting i feared that i ruined the model with this experiment! :)
Very nice! 👍
“Helmsman” is the term you were looking for.
Nice build! One thing you may try is spraying just a hint of light grey, or off white, to simulate salt build-up from ocean spray, or oxidation of the paint. Not sure how best to do that, so maybe try it on some scrap material first?
Ah yes, thanks for reminding, helmsman! Thank you, i am glad you like it! salt buildup would have been very cool indeed! I have used white oil paints for it on some smaller scale models, but in this size it might be hard to get the texture right, maybe stippling it on with an old brush
G'day Fun, I'm sorry, mate! When I made my comments before and offered you advice; that was before I saw videos of your other builds. Boy, do I feel stupid. You are the one who should be giving me tips and instructions on how to build ships properly. I had no idea you'd tackled such big builds. I like big kits too but I'm nowhere near as good at big ships as you are. It's hard to believe you have only been modelling for a few years, or maybe I read the wrong comment by mistake. You are the master of big ship builds. I'll be coming to you for advice when I get around to doing my 1/350 BB-63 ! I hope you forgive my stupidity... ha ha... Cheers, Bill
Aye that's not too shabby at all well done the finished model looks great the large paint brush made me chuckle but it turned out alright 👏👏👏👏👏🍺🍺🍺🕊✌🏻
I love it in fact just ordered me a kit which I also will brush paint.
‘ Was honestly going to stop viewing when you started painting the hull with the old crappy brush !
But I’m very impressed , a very good job in deed , especially with the ‘ ice breaker ‘ where I subscribed to you channel , as I was impressed with that to , well done explaining and sharing types of paints and washes ,
Thankyou and godblesss , safe travels :)
Thanks very much! I have also painted walls in my flat with that very same brush, it is indeed an old crappy brush.
great job .I have the Vosper MTB 74 of the STNazaire RAID which iam building into an rc model if all goes well .not sure whether to airbrush or use brushes .havnt decided yet .Again a great job
so cool
Be good to convert to rc its a nice one you've done
The crews' boots should have been weathered black and the tops white where the socks were turned over the boots.
great!!!!!...a good italeri ship model, and expensive...😋...you pait it very well...i love brushes, i bought an airbrushes but i love paint with brush!!!😎...congratulation like always for your skils!!!!👍👍 ciao da Roberto and...when you build a Venezians vaporetto???😉😂😂
Thanks very much! I googled Vaporetto and thought it was a restaurant until i found pictures of public transport vessels, that would be a very cool subject! When i was a kid, i got a gondola in very small scale from a holiday trip, but those ships look very good! do you know if there are model kits out there?
@@funinscale2892 hallooo Peter, in venice there are two different public vassel transport...one is large, go trough the grand canal, during the 1 and 2 ward they have a carbon engine...a lot of smoke!!! at the moment is paint with an an horrible dark jellow, the other one is more little, black and withe, very nice...for a gondola models i remember that there is a shop that sail the models, but i dont Know if, a cause of covid, they are open or closed!!!...i Know that are wood models, no plastic!
@@funinscale2892 look on google: veniceboats.com...they sell a simply model...i think that you made it in a few minutes...🤣🤣😎, but when is finished all black its very nice and you spend only 30 euros...i hope the they are open!!!!!🤔...greatings from Roberto, ciaoooo
@@robertomander6030 Great, thanks for the info! i will look into the topic and try and find a kit! maybe i can use another kit and transform it to a Venezian Vaporetto! The colour schemes sound interesting, something different than mostly Grey warships!
Do you know what is the weight of finished model? I'm thinking about making it rc, so wondering how much displacement the model has left for propulsion and control equipment. Thanks.
The Vosper is a wooden boat. So no need to add rust on the hull
I tried keeping the rust only where metal pieces from deck would be where rust streaks down onto the wooden hull, the other streaks around the edges of the deck are to be brown, so just grime or dirt or something, but the lighting is not great so its probably hard to see. But i also got carried away and overdid it. Again. :D
@@funinscale2892 ok thats good my friend. It's just a constructive comment. I've been following you for a while on your channel. I think you should increase the difficulty of your assemblies by adding photoetched kit not provided in the kits. And also from time to time we see some clusters of plastic lugs. I can advise you on photoetched kits. My comment is by no means mean. It's constructive, I assure you. See you soon, model maker friend
@ Thanks for the comment! I didnt take it as mean, i always welcome criticism, only that way we can improve ourselves! What are clusters of plastic lugs? aftermarket additions?
PE parts really add to models! Thanks for the feedback and have a good modelling time!
@@funinscale2892 OK great then;) There is a bit of cleaning missing on the little cluster pins of your parts, do not hesitate to clean them a little better, but otherwise it's good anyway;) I hope we will have more the opportunity to discuss our models;)
@ ah yes, i am not particularly precise and patient in modelling, so some small parts which are hard to sand,... i skip and hope noone will se them! Yes, would be interesting!
Looks great to me. I see no reason not to dump the airbrush once in a while. After all, during WW2 they wouldn't have airbrushed it.
Thanks very much! This video has the most dislikes of all my videos, so i think there are several people who didnt like that experiment :D or it was my sloppy hand painting
Instead of polishing the torpedo, that sailor might have been better served getting rid of some of the rust around the place :)
True! One never knows what those figures are thinking
How does a wooden boat's hull rust so much?!
Admirable result , but I'm surprised you didn't paint small parts before fitting ,e.g. Anchors?
I usually use Tamiya spray paint when I need to cover large models.
Tamiya paints are great for airbrush painting! i dilute them with alcohol and they work great.
yay
The captain figure didn't have a 'cool weather coat and cape'. It was a duffle coat with attached hood, an almost universally popular issue in the Royal Navy.
Great work for a beginner... May I suggest you spend a little more time on clean ip of parts... Take your time don't rush things
I don't understand why even small and complex shaped parts are not painted on the sprue, before being assembled in place. Just how do you paint the rear side of the steering wheel with a brush when it is glued already to the superstructure?
This boat was a special case, most of the parts should have been the same light grey when following the painting instructions, so when painting the back of the wheel, you can just squeeze in the brush - when the paint is properly thinned, there wont be bulges of paint sticking on the plate afterwards. When painting ships in bigger scales, i usually paint each deck and small parts individually before assembling all together.
To be honest, sometimes i dont paint spots that you can't see at all when its finished, which is cheating, but its always situational. In general, I'm not a very precise modeller and i enjoy making the models rather quicker than focussing months on only one kit to being able to start new ones more frequently. This got a little bit long but hopefully you still enjoy the videos! Thanks for commenting!
The reason you don't is that parts have seam lines and there might be gaps putting parts together.
Iam building one now. Is it best to paint the deck a darker colour grey than the hull ?
Hi! I think the the deck is the same overall colour as the hull, with some darker stripes, it was indicated that way in the instructions. But it would probably be easiest when painting the whole ship in a light grey tone and then masking the light grey tones and filling in the darker areas
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It went by so fast!
I have model's on my shelf hand painted when I first started but there horrible really the airbrush makes the model In my opinion I won't paint anything but detailing and figures now it's just a waste of a model if your spending big bucks on them like myself
I think if you invested in an airbrush, your job painting these big ships would not only be easier, but you would save on paint. The amount of money your spend on expensive ship models could go to tools that can help you.
True, the amount of paint needed for brush painting is much higher. with the airbrush, a 23ml tamiya bottle is enough for around 5 large ships to paint. I would not paint a 1/350 scale ship with brush because of the strokes, they would be totally out of scale, in 1/35 with this boat, it looks cool, i think
oh as a tip, try crossing out the numbers on instructions of the stages you've done!
This is the same type of boat the PT 73 was made from on McHale's Navy in the early 1960's. Of course it was modified.
Thats a good hint, thanks! sometimes i forget some smaller parts and in the end, its too late to add them !
Peter did you buy the crew figures separately?
Yes i got them separately. i just found out that Italeri also has a vosper MTB 74, and i think the crew is actually for the 74 boat, not the 77 that i have made, but they still fit, i guess.
There is an edition of this kit where the figures are included, but i got mine without and had to acquire them separately
whens the next vid, i think it a chonky thiccc boy
Hi! I'm afraid it wont be a tremendously huge model, but it was quite an effort in making! And i did two things in parallel, so one model is 99% finished, and the next one around 70% so there are two videos coming up soon!
@@funinscale2892 thanks I am so eager t owee them
Also a small suggestion buy a new brush that one your using looks like your dog's chew tot 😳
Toy
scabby old brush! c'mon mate get some new gear!
This kind of painting scares me.
Unimpressed.
Thanks for the feedback!
Fanatic build my problem is not being able to get aftermarket products for this kit that is made by the Chinese government under the name if Griffon models which make professional photo etched sets to replace oversized kit parts where there needed.
Do you have any opinions or ideas on getting aftermarket enhancing detail parts to make museum quality models than oob offerings? All day I'm to words that teach me!🤔🫣