'Can't Help Lovin' Dat Man' | Till The Clouds Roll By | Lena Horne (HD Print)
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Film: Till The Clouds Roll By, 1946
"Show Boat"
Broadway Premiere Sequence:
Can't Help Lovin' Dat Man
Music by Jerome Kern
Lyrics by Oscar Hammerstein II
Sung by Lena Horne
Starring: June Allyson, Lucille Bremer, Judy Garland, Van Heflin, Van Johnson, Robert Walker
Cameo Appearance: Lena Horne, Kathryn Grayson, Tony Martin, Dinah Shore, Angela Lansbury, Virginia O'Brien, Cyd Charisse, Gower Champion and a very young Frank Sinatra
Lena Horne was one of a kind.No one could touch her for beauty pose or sophistication.She put so much life into her songs.
Hollywood has a stain on it forever for blocking so many great performers. They shorted themselves .
It's a big gift that they filmed this performance for Till The Clouds Roll By, so her performance will always be remembered.
Time Capsuled.
God, she was beautiful! 🔥💕
This brings tears to my eyes, she was the perfect Julie. But racist Hollywood was too chicken to cast her.
She was wonderful but that is the way of the world.Hollywood has much to do with how Americans se themselves and how the world sees America.Quite frankly I always felt the Ava was mixed ..maybe something like the "Cumberland Gap" people but she is accepted as "white" and many of us are not as "white" as we think we are.The ironic truth is that all us us have "been in the mix" so long that we ought to consider ourselves related.
How about if we all stop whining and just sit back and enjoy the show.
@@docsmithdc and that makes it no better …
Yep, old Hollywood really cheated us out of seeing the full potential of black actors and actresses. Hell even some of the white ones, Judy Garland was such a natural actress and they never fully utilized her, all they wanted her to do was sing.
Indeed and I agree with you!
As much as I love Ava Gardner, Lena Horne hands down should have gotten the part of Julie. Lena's version of this song is just gorgeous beyond words!
you all must be a bunch of Democrats. Everything is racist!
Al Stewart ...U must be a Rebublican..
pretending that racism is not the elephant in the room.
tunapup1 I heard a story ( please correct me if I'm wrong) .. that Ava Gardner & Lena became friends after the movie ... But when they first gave her the role in Show Boat instead of Lena .... Ava personally went and approached Lena to apologize & saying it should of been her that got the role ??
( side note ) : The role was originally offered to Judy Garland but she had already terminated her contract w/ M.G.M .
@@alstewart9212 point out the "racism" in the original comment. We'll be waiting........forever. 😁
@@86forever She may have apologize but she still took the role
The most beautiful song there is about infidelity, performed one of the greatest show tune artists. Thank you!
Love Lena Horne. She was such an amazing singer and she was great in this movie as well.
Her eyes sparkle like diamonds.
I wonder how many men listening to this song and wished their lady loved them as much as this ?
Beautiful vibrant color and amazing performance by a legend! MGM had the greatest musicals!
I loved her! I wish we had this kind of music nowadays. I love the older music. I love Lena Horne!!!❤❤❤❤
Great staging! Especially when the camera pulls back Lena sings “when he goes away!” And then moves in when she sings “but when he comes back, that day is fine”. They knew how to make movies back then!
My goodness Lena was beautiful.
Beautiful Lena! Captivating appearance and sound. Angelic like. RIP Lena. We love and miss you:)
I had the pleasure of seeing and hearing this beautiful and talented woman. African-Americans have added so much beauty to our culture and still we have home-grown terrorists that don't want them here.
Stunning. Flawless.
FABULOUS!!!! She made it all possible for the others to follow....the list is endless
Not just the only old jazz singers I like Lena Horne, but especially Eartha Kitt, Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong.
She had the voice of an angel AND she was gorgeous as well...what's not to love?!! America was at very very bad place, at the time!!!
Still is . MAGA ???????
Racists woke Democrats led by chief racist Biden
The best part of the internet is the history we can see as if it were present, and so it is.
Gracias por la calidad de imagen y sonido. Que sublime criatura Lena Horne. Esas manos...esa delicadeza.I love her
Love how brightly she sings the word "shine"
❤😊😊😊😊😊😊💯🌟⭐ Lena Horne. A legend🤩😍
Awesome singer and actress ....RIP Lena, died today at 92yrs old
So elegant a QUEEN 👑!
The beautiful, multitalented goddess, Ms. Lena Horne!
best version!
Im so mad , She was perfect for the part , why would they cut her !?! She sooo gorgeous && her voice beautiful
umm because she was black and hollywood is racist
*****
i found out that hollywood was scared of casting a glamorous black actress for the lead and that's why they dumped her.
+roter13 the irony is that Julie, the character, is part black as was Lena. that's H'wood then
Hollywood had never shown interracial relationships in movies or Shows.
Lena is BOSS! I love her...too bad she never got HALF of the work/exposure she deserved! Despite the ways of that world she carried herself with dignity and beauty for 92 years! Bless her.
Indeed, I saw this film yesterday - and this tribute of Lena Horne is so great! I love this titel!
Rest in peace, one of my favorite singers
She was one of my first little boy crushes. She has a voice that melts me right into my socks.
She was such a beauty, and lovely voice too!
Oh my goodness she is just incredible, I'm totally gonna cry rn! Sooo beautiful:D
Nice. Thank you.
It's tragically ironic - she was supposed to play a character who loses her job and career for being interracial, but they wouldn't cast Lena BECAUSE she was interracial! How much more gutless can you get to make that movie and do the very thing it's protesting against?
LOL, funny, the story of showboat criticizes that very......Omg lol, they were dumb
+William Craig yes, a double irony
Triple irony in a way Ava & Lena were best friends and Ave fought with the studio to give it to Lena and not her. Off topic but the 1936 version of Showboat is the definitive version.
William Craig While I agree with most of what you said, Lena Horne is not considered "interracial". She may be interracial if, by that you mean many ethnicities in her heritage. I am a light -skinned black woman with the same type of heritage - great grandfathers on maternal and paternal sides being white. (My maternal grandfather was born just 20 years after slavery ended. ) But as far as American society is concerned, especially in Lena Horne's time - she's black.
Of course Lena Horne WAS NOT interracial because BOTH of her parents WERE Black,her mother was just very very light skinned in which she LOOKED WHITE,but that don't count she WAS NOT white,she was Black African AND her father was also Black African,so both of her parents were black just like president Barack Obama,well both of his parents WERE Black also,and in fact his mother was MORE Black than the rest of us because the researchers at ancestry.com found out that she came from the MOST famous Black man as she is the daughter of the FIRST Black West African to be enslaved for life in america during the 1600's the first days of slavery.
This has always made me cry, it's so beautiful the way Lena Horne does it, no one else will ever be made for this part and song like her but Hollywood were too racist to cast a tanned woman in the role because one of her parents were black afro-caribbean even though her Mother was white caucasian. Consummate actor/singers who were not white caucasian were never given lead or supporting roles in 1946 only role of servant if female, bloody cheek, how much more classy could she be? If they were male they had to play a butler. A screen test, which is what this is, was as near as this heavenly woman who sang and portrayed this Jerome Kern song to perfection got to ever playing a decent role in film. How could they put brown makeup on Ava Gardner who was her best friend and give her the part instead? Gardner fought them to give Lena the role even trying to copy the way she sang it here. Biggest mistake Hollywood ever made and Horne never got over it. I can't forgive.
PERFECTION!
Notice she won't sing "dat man." She sings "that man." A little subtle protest that slipped under the radar. Good for her!
could you explain what that means?
roter13 She would not mispronounce the word "that" in real life, and she would not do it entertaining to fit the stereotype expected of her by some people.
According to That's Entertainment, she wasn't supposed to sing 'Dat'.
J Newssid I haven't seen That's Entertainment since it came out. Are you saying that it was an issue... that the producer or director or front office made a decision about "dat" vs. "that?"
+A Krenwinkle Lena came from a very cultured family--parents were college educated I believe--as you mentioned her accent (if any) certainly would not be the stereotype foisted on black actors by H'wood. I knew Chris Calloway--Lena's god daughter--she did a one woman show on Lena.
Lena Horne beautiful every time I see her I feel like I'm in love with her too
They should used Lena in the 1952 version of Show Boat....Definitely !!!
And in the 1951 version!
I always think how could be Judy Garland (the original choice for the part)'s Julie.
best version ever by Lena...Like in second place Ava's sultry sexy version too...
Timeless beauty
I can't like this enough!!!
as was mentioned by another commentator, Lena was fired by studio big wigs because she was 'too black' looking--and Julie, the character, was fired for being found to be part black (which meant you were 'all black' in those days)--is that a double irony or what??!!
not knocking Ava's interpretation, but this is definitive--such a dramatic truth blended with vocal lyricism--a taste of how Show Boat might have been with Lena 'on board'. this is the role that got away from Lena because of bigotry of time. it was a major bitter pill for her but she rose above it--but I don't think she ever truly got over it. the makeup developed for Lena for the film by Max Factor (yes there was such a person!) was later commercially sold for black women, I believe.
According to me, Ms. Horne always looks simply the best! All her songs have magic and they're simply nothing else but an 'Perfection' indeed! I must say that she's my Honeysuckle Rose and that's why i Can't Help Lovin' and adoring her always.
Yeah this is an HD print, as this movie wasn't available anywhere in good quality. Later i saw an special edition DVD of this film available in amazon. It have an outstanding-ly designed menu! So just immediately grabbed it.
Thanks for commenting dear :)
Alicia Keys would be the perfect role to play Lena Horne in a movie about her life.
Would she fuck she’s got zero talent all she’s got is a pair of boots lips
Her or Janelle Monae. Monae and Horne have similar smiles
Agree. Can't think of anyone else who could do it.
@@dreadstheheart Janelle Monae is not a whyt passing AA, sooo😮
wow how beautiful
Well that was insane
Definitely, you're right on the mark. As MUCH as this amazing, beautiful, and talented lady achieved, there was the possibility for so much MORE that was blocked off from her by unfair and unjust people in Hollywood. There was a lot of confusion as to what to do with her in films because there was always the fear of the racists in theaters down South who would refuse to screen movies spotlighting a woman of color in a positive light, and from racist moviegoers who'd protest such films.
nice, strong and fast vibrato.
I was definitely born in that era of the 40's
No wonder Bill Cosby spoke so lovingly about her! She was such a beautiful and talented woman.
r.i.p Queen!!!!
Oh, listen, sista
I love my mista man
And I can't tell you why
There ain't no reason
For me to love that man
It must be something
That the angels done play
Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly
I gotta love one man 'til I die
Can't help loving that man of mine
Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow
Tell me I'm crazy, maybe, I know
Can't help loving that man of mine
When he goes away
That's a rainy day
But when he comes back
That day is fine
The sun will shine
He can come home
As late as can be
Home without him
Ain't no home to me
Can't help loving that man of mine
Thank you for uping this clip. I did want to make one point of clarification in your description. Whilst they recorded Ms. Gardner's voice for this song in "Showboat", according to Ms. Gardener's own autobiography Annette Warren's voice was dubbed for release of "Showboat".
I saw her at The Talk of the Town in London 70's. great lady and really sexy beautiful. Ah Lena. Miss them😘
Lena definitely should have gotten the part.
Andrea Horne (curse the new YT comment section where you can't reply to some people), Ava was not part black, she was part Native American.
According to her trivia on IMDb, Ava had British/English ancestry. She is sometimes cited as having had Native American ancestry, but this ancestry has never been verified/documented.
cance7984 She def had some Spanish in her like maybe far in ancestry, Ava looks part hispanic or spanish to me
MrDuffmann22 Ava is majority Scots-Irish shes an Iberian type.
fantastica........................
Anyone here trying to sing like her (from the heart) instead of hating each other?
MGM really screwed Lena!!
But sadly no surprise, it's America after all...
And as much as I love Ava, she knew it herself that it was a major injustice Lena not playing Julie.
um i love Ava Gardner and she was great, sang this song great. Her version moves me. But Why was it so bad to have an actual woman of color? Lena could have played Julie in show boat. I won't say anything about Natalie wood playing Maria, bc she was perfect but I heard that Shirley Bassey was considered for The film Oliver to play the lead female, but it would have been an interacial relationship between her and Oliver reed, so she wasn't cast.........!!!????? Racism man, so many people were denied parts they would have been perfect for for stupid reason.
Shirley Bassey as Nancy? Come on. It wouldn't have worked - she's not an actress for a start
J Newssid NO BUT HAVE YOU SEEN HER PERFORM A SONG, SHE CCOULD ACT IF SHE WANTED TO
Arthur Diggs YES
yeah
The point of Julie is that she's secretly passing as white. Yes, Lena was very light (and they put makeup on her look darker on film), but audiences knew Lena was black.
Ms. Horne always possesd so much class and grace, both on and off camera. Her only stumbling block during this era was the unjust laws of Jim Crow, which prevented many talented black artist the oppoortunity of obtaining dignified roles. Many attempts have been made to project her inspiring lifestory through a televisied film. However, before she passed away Ms. Horne justifiably rejected the idea of having her biopic tarnished by the performances of b-list actors such as Janet Jackson!
The style of this performance has Judy Garland stamped all over it.
Oh piss off
Both ladies were phenomenal. We are lucky we had them BOTH.
If a person LOOKS like a white person,but that person or people have ANY amount of black blood in them they ARE black or black African. It DOES NOT matter that that person LOOKS white,that person and those people are still BLACK of course. Black is BEAUTIFUL. BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL.
The excuse made over and over again by people who justify Ms. Horne NOT being cast as Julie in SB, is because people don't want to stoop to "political correctness" (whatever that is supposed to mean, it's another of these asinine comments), and that, being actually black, she apparently didn't look light enough to pass for white (which is the character's dilemma in SB). If this is the real reasoning, it is a weak argument because the actual screen Julie (Ava Gardner) wore the same MGM face powder developed for Horne called 'Light Egyptian' that darkened her face. If they wanted an exotically beautiful white woman to portray a biracial character who doesn't look biracial, why did they darken up Ava? She was a stunner on her own merit, as was Ms. Horne. And Ms. Horne photographed lighter on screen without the Egyptian makeup and otherwise could've been made up to look any way the story required. Horne mentioned all of this in her one-woman show on Broadway, just in case anyone claims I am making this up or being "overly PC".
you know lena and ava happened to be good friends.
I definitely think Lena Horne should've played "Julie". Looking at this clip makes me realize she would've contributed some true authenticity and depth to the characterization...something that comes from LIVING the life of a woman of mixed roots and possessing ambiguity which lends to unique experiences with both Black and White people. Ava was beautiful and talented but ultimately had a shallowness with the character.
Lena wasn't mixed race, both of her parents were black. Her husband was white, though.
Miss Lena Horne in HD screen replay data computer work *I passed for white* 2024
Actually, MGM had no choice. Because of the strict Code imposed on Hollywood in 1934, (due mostly by the "Catholic League,") inter-racial relationships were banned, as well as kisses lasting more than about 3 seconds. As for homosexuals, since they were considered "inverts" and "perverse," there could be no depiction of them, although they sometimes slipped it by the censors, such as in "Laura" where Clifton Webb was clearly, yet stereotypically homosexual. Great film. This code didn't break down until the early 60's when the ratings system came into effect (G, PG, R.). So it was not always a question of racism at the time, but the strictness of the Code whereby if a studio didn't conform to it, the film could not be released.
god she was extremely beautiful in this beautiful musical film gem I love her so much just sweeet and sexxxxxy and hot too trot just for fun loving memories of moments in those old golden days gone by just that their could be more of them because life then isn't what it's crack up to be now we just have to Live our lives right for the purposes of knowing some day soon will be gone to a better place for lots more singing and dancing for the joy of eternal life and blessings from up above but again love this scene and absolutely positively love Lena In this heartwarming beautiful musical god bless her Beautiful singing and dancing soul peace everybody😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭.
One of Hollywoods greatest crimes was not casting Lena Horne as Julie in Show Boat. Such a disgrace and loss!
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Lena Horne had all the attributes for the part and would have done a better job than Ava Gardner.
Don't agree. Ava was an actress and played the part brilliantly. Even her own voice was better. I think LH would have ruined it as even in this scene she's overacting. Ava is more subtle.
I'd rather wake up next to Lena than Ava.
Hate to break it to you dear, but Ava's voice was dubbed by a background singer for the 1951 remake. Ava did record this song for the remake but never got released until they released the soundtrack until like the early 90s.
Everyone saying she wouldn’t have been able to play the part because she was fully black and too dark to pass. That’s beside the point. They both lightened and darkened actors makeup for roles. They even had to darken Lena and I believe Dorothy Dandridge for not looking black enough, so you’re telling me they couldn’t lighten her skin and use good lighting to make it more believable. The point is that they often robbed actors of color of opportunities they deserved or would have been perfect for in favor of white actors who, white talented, had NO business playing those roles. Don’t be obtuse.
Born to play Julie...
Even Oprah Winfrey has attempted the idea of producing her own film on this legend through the performance of non-actress, Alicia Keys! Granted, Keys is equally as talented and visually beautiful as Horne but physically and artistically she would do such a part no justice considering the fact that she is not a trained actor! A role of this magnitude should be produced by a truly gifted director who would cast a talented and convincing unknown actress in the role preferably on the big screen!
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Encore
If a person LOOKS white but they have ANY amount of black blood in them,no matter how long ago in their roots and therefore, no matter how small of an amount of black blood,that person IS a black African.Scientifically that has been proven to be true and it IS true, of course.In the name of Jesus. InshaAllah. BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL. BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL.
I find it ironic that though Ava Gardner played the part in the movie, she said she used Lena's performance as a reference, so much so, that she even tried to copy the exact phrasing that was used.
In 1988 I interviewed Lena's daughter Gail when she visited London. She told me that MGM was the least racist studio in Hollywood because they put her mother under long-term contract, but that Arthur Freed (the musical producer who was responsible for casting the 1951 Show Boat) didn't feel that Lena could be believable as a 'white' woman and Julie, the character, had to look white. Gail believed her mother could have and should have been cast as Julie (in 1951) but the racial politics in Hollywood at that time would not permit it. I don't think Lena ever recovered from the disappointment. It must have been heartbreaking. Note: the MGM contract player who was Arthur Freed's 1st choice for the role of Julie in 1951 was Judy Garland, but she had left the studio in 1950. So Ava Gardner replaced her.
I think the studio were right. Ava is stunning and plays the part brilliantly.
+TheLizzie12 I think the loss of the role really effected lena as you mentioned--the bitterness seeped into her one woman show later--
I assume the one dislike is a fan of the Ava Gardner version of this songe. Lena is lovely and sings with her heart.
Was she wearing make-up here?
NO Lena Horne mother was Black just like her father. Her mother was just a very light skinned white looking black woman;but that DOES NOT matter of course;because she was STILL black of course,because if a person looks white but have ANY amount of black blood in them no matter how small of an amount that person is still black. and scientifically that has been proven to be true.therefore, Lena WAS NOT a half breed black person or a half breed.As BOTH of her parents were very light skinned African-americans. Her mother was just so very light colored that she looked like a white woman,but that DOES NOT matter of course because she had black blood in her so she was black,just like her husband(Lena father). Black women please STOP having Abortions and taking birth control and being homosexual and fighting hurting and MURDERING one another as that IS black Extermination. BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL. BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL.
All them years ago they was setting black women up to settle for less all in the name of love. Give me compatibility… love will come later!!!!
LENA REALLY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT PART AS JULIE, SHE WAS THE REAL JULIE, LOOKED WHITE, BUT MAYBE BY FAM HISTORY HALF. NEVER BEING ABLE TO LIVE TRUELY IN BOTH WORLDS, HOLLYWOOD WAS SA RACIST
@renee xuereb Alicia Keys can act. Her best role is The Secret life of bees. She can act and has experience in theater.Janet was going to do it but her performance at the superbowl mess that up. Alicia Keys and Janet are both great actresses who grew up around theater so do your research cause thats not true, I think AKeys would do the job justice. This is her dream role too so I'm sure she'd put in over 100% work ethic into this film.
She looks like Alicia Keys.
Should have been Julie in the movie, but Hollywood was put on notice that racists in the South and other areas would boycott ... America was full of blighted souls back then... not at ALL like today
i would have loved to have seen her play Julie. would've added more accurate to the character.
So, she sang "dat man". That's how she sounds to me in that lazy sans New York plus Alabama accent. Great teeth! She should have been in "Showboat".
Was she too old to play the part of Julie in the 1950s version? I love Ava, but Lena would have been perfect. She looks the part and maybe they wouldn't have dubbed her as the did Ava although Ava's voice was good though not up to Lena's standard of course.
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A lot is currently made of the fact that Lena wasn't chosen for the part of Julie Laverne and that it was racially motivated but Hollywood is more complex than that. How else was Julie Andrews passed over for the non-singing Audrey Hepburn as Eliza Doolittle or worse still, Dick Van Dyke getting the part of Cockney chimney sweep Bert in Mary Poppins - the biggest casting crime in the history of film musicals!
Do a study thats not true!
I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE! HOLLYWOOD OPERATED UNDER CENSORSHIP AT THE TIMES THAT BOTH VERSIONS OF SHOWBOAT WAS MADE. ONE OF THE THINGS PROHIBITED WAS INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIPS. TO GET AROUND THIS RULE IN MOVIES, THEY USED WHITE ACTRESSES TO PLAY PARTS LIKE JULIE AND A CHARACTER CALLED PINKY IN ANOTHER MOVIE. ALSO THE CHARACTER SARAH JANE IN IMITATION OF LIFE. SOME OF Y'ALL NEED TO LEARN TO READ UP ON FILM HISTORY INSTEAD OF JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT!
You are totally right.It would have been great to see black actresses in those roles but the movie codes would not allow it.
However Lena was a singular talent and MGM should have given her more acting opportunities even if it was only in all black movies.MGM let gold slip thru their fingers.
I believe that had Lena Horne been white,she would have been the biggest star of them all.As it is,She had a very successful career.
@@williamhorwich2072 Agree with everything that you said! Thank you for understanding what I was talking about. 💯❤️🖤💚
TERRIBLE version.
I like the shimmy shake tempo better.