This book is so wild. SCV, Cavies, and Boston all brought straight up insane battery writing this year. Wouldn’t be surprised to see these guys take home a Sanford sometime in the next few years now that McNutt is on the squad.
GUTTERED even crown stepped from their usual pit of mediocrity to deliver a fairly fun book. It was a great year for percussion. Coats while not on the map for drums really, hands down my favorite front ensemble, super talented
Milo Johnson yeah for real. People were sleeping on cadets a little but it was for real thick. And I loved phantom with their massive amount of tenors. I haven’t seen much of stars yet, I’m going in bit by bit
@@captainkiwi77 unfortunately most claim Crown is 'mediocre' because of their placing in previous years. Their technique is not 'mediocre', however. Their books have lots of space, sure, but they execute their music 111%. Mad sound quality everywhere from Crown. Shame they're underrated. God damn.
Aljerae that is correct and I will attest to it, instead of shitty motion stabilized bull shit that they give us like all of the chino hills footage where the footage gets warped
This is a perfect example of what listening to one another in a battery should be. The snares were clean, the quads were woven in seamlessly with them, and the Basses are from a different dimension.
Everything about DCI kinda sucks right now, but I LOVE what has happened to drumlines. I watch at least a couple of these vids every day! If someone had told me 30 years ago that this is what a 4th place drumline would look and sound like today, I would have told that person he was high. I know I have been out of the game for a while, but this is just ridiculous. I may start going to shows again just to see this.
Yeah I get that most corps have gone their seperate ways with tradition and all that, but the overall experience does not suck. Watching a lot or show live is always worth it.
"Sucks" is probably a strong word. I think that maybe the word I'm looking for is "disappointing." Unlike a lot of old-schoolers, I don't mind the dancing, eccentric costumes (there are no more uniforms), or the over-abundance of props littering that field. However, the one thing that I simply can not, will not ever accept is the use of artificial amplification. Not only does it lends a cheesy, inorganic element to the show, I see it as the equivalent of allowing Olympians to take performance enhancing drugs. These kids should be judged on how well they play and march, not how good their sound equipment is. Just sayin'.
A couple of years ago I took my daughter to a DCI show. She loved it, and I enjoyed myself, too (part of that might have just been because I was spending time with my daughter). It was mid-season, but these kids were in late season form. They were amazing! Technically, most of them were outstanding (intonation, balance, etc...), but I just couldn't get into the shows, as a whole. Maybe I was distracted by all the electronics, or maybe I just missed the G bugles. But there was definitly something missing. Prior to this, the last show I saw live was in 2002. I still remember the feeling I got watching the Cavaliers show. I can't say the same for what I saw in 2016. Maybe I should have just gone down to the lot and watched the drumlines warm up.
I think 2016 was a pretty bad year all in all. This may or may not be off topic but I think one very prevalent problem is that modern shows put too much emphasis on DEEPER MEANINGS. There's such a demand for complexity in show design that it becomes a serious chore to decode what the hell's going on from the audience's standpoint. Take Crown 2017, Cadets 2017, Blue Stars 2016, Crossmen 2016, these shows are borderline conceited and bombastic. There have been A FEW really fantastic and simple shows come out recently that prove DCI still hasn't lost its way, though: Academy 2016, cavaliers 2016, SCV 2017. Looking into the past, all of the most immediately memorable shows were the simplest: tilt, samurai, between angels and demons, rock star, E=Mc2. You understand the premise of these shows almost instantly, yet they're immortal. I wish the designers would realize that you don't need to be deep to put on a good show. That being said, not all complex shows are terrible. Inferno, Felliniesque, Cabaret Voltaire, to look for America, Spartacus, and Animal Farm are all fantastic. Instead of feeling pretentious these shows feel very insightful, as if the designers created the show out of pointed respect for the source material and wanted to do it justice. Other shows just seem to want to throw something poetic on the field and see if it sticks. Can we make this a DCI maxim? "Ask not what your show theme can do for you, but what you can do for your show theme."
I mean the re entrance wasn't that clean either. It was a bad moment. But those moments happen when you're playing a book meant to push you to your limit. That quad line sounds great for most of the video, they just zoomed in on a guy during probably his worst moment of the lot.
Oof. Yeah, our apologies. That angle shouldn’t have happened. Our attention to detail must have slipped - trying to get five videos edited and posted in one day isn’t the easiest. We will make it up on our visit to the corps at their rehearsal site! Some amazing playing and footage there...
I am not homophobic but it really amazing just how far dci has went with these insanely flamboyantly gay in the queriest way possible. It's not just the Boston Crusaders but ALL dci. I mean wow.
It's a different time my Dude. I can say that if I were marching now I'd definitely have some strong feelings about the unis these days but I understand why this is the direction that Corps are going. They're cheaper, MUCH more comfortable in the heat, and it's more practical to get the Corps into a completely different look every year. I don't love it or hate it, I just accept it.
It's boring. To me it feels the same all the way through. That's the thing about Colin's books. He writes some crazy difficult stuff, but it just doesn't reach me wuite the way SCV, Coats, or even BK does. Just because a line performs well does not necessarily mean someone has to like the book. BD is a classic example. They are always near the top, but their drum book is just . . . not fulfilling. As a drummer I can appreciate the difficulty of what they do, but as a musician (I really hope you understand what I am trying to say by this) they do not affect me.
I totally understand what you're saying. I just really really dig this book. the demand is just insane and the execution is just straight there. so hearing that it just doesn't "do it for ya" is just interesting to me. I feel ya about BD though.
I love the diminished tuning of the tenors.
This book is so wild. SCV, Cavies, and Boston all brought straight up insane battery writing this year. Wouldn’t be surprised to see these guys take home a Sanford sometime in the next few years now that McNutt is on the squad.
GUTTERED even crown stepped from their usual pit of mediocrity to deliver a fairly fun book. It was a great year for percussion. Coats while not on the map for drums really, hands down my favorite front ensemble, super talented
cadets book was DUMB thick, phantom brought it with their line, and blue stars had some tasty stuff.
Milo Johnson yeah for real. People were sleeping on cadets a little but it was for real thick. And I loved phantom with their massive amount of tenors. I haven’t seen much of stars yet, I’m going in bit by bit
This writing is a McNutt in my pants
@@captainkiwi77 unfortunately most claim Crown is 'mediocre' because of their placing in previous years. Their technique is not 'mediocre', however. Their books have lots of space, sure, but they execute their music 111%. Mad sound quality everywhere from Crown. Shame they're underrated. God damn.
BIG ups to the Vic Firth team for giving us beautifully shot footage. This is what lot videos should look like.
Aljerae that is correct and I will attest to it, instead of shitty motion stabilized bull shit that they give us like all of the chino hills footage where the footage gets warped
Aljerae Back in my day there were no lot videos! Haha I’m only kidding...kind of.
These guys put in work this summer. Definitely crazy to see how far they took this book and the clarity they achieved at the end. Props
This is a perfect example of what listening to one another in a battery should be. The snares were clean, the quads were woven in seamlessly with them, and the Basses are from a different dimension.
3:51 W for him coming back in
Not going to lie. Based off earlier season videos I thought Boston was kind of overrated but they showed the F up for finals. Proved me wrong.
Same here honestly
I was there for finals... I'm a hardcore Rennick fanboy but Boston's finals lot was pretty insane
Honestly my favorite line.
7:01 - Was that an echo?
Somehow yes
Snare tuning really highlights the level of clarity that they are playing with! Awesome
7:03 something about that echo 🥜 💦
I like how people in these comments have civilized conversations.
Liking this vid just for that tenor snare split 💯
6:10 how does one diddle above shoulder height and sound that clean let alone a whole line lmao
6:24-6:28
that spice.
Everything about DCI kinda sucks right now, but I LOVE what has happened to drumlines. I watch at least a couple of these vids every day! If someone had told me 30 years ago that this is what a 4th place drumline would look and sound like today, I would have told that person he was high. I know I have been out of the game for a while, but this is just ridiculous. I may start going to shows again just to see this.
Lance Raiford With all respect, How does DCI suck right now?
Yeah I get that most corps have gone their seperate ways with tradition and all that, but the overall experience does not suck. Watching a lot or show live is always worth it.
"Sucks" is probably a strong word. I think that maybe the word I'm looking for is "disappointing." Unlike a lot of old-schoolers, I don't mind the dancing, eccentric costumes (there are no more uniforms), or the over-abundance of props littering that field.
However, the one thing that I simply can not, will not ever accept is the use of artificial amplification. Not only does it lends a cheesy, inorganic element to the show, I see it as the equivalent of allowing Olympians to take performance enhancing drugs. These kids should be judged on how well they play and march, not how good their sound equipment is. Just sayin'.
A couple of years ago I took my daughter to a DCI show. She loved it, and I enjoyed myself, too (part of that might have just been because I was spending time with my daughter). It was mid-season, but these kids were in late season form. They were amazing! Technically, most of them were outstanding (intonation, balance, etc...), but I just couldn't get into the shows, as a whole. Maybe I was distracted by all the electronics, or maybe I just missed the G bugles. But there was definitly something missing. Prior to this, the last show I saw live was in 2002. I still remember the feeling I got watching the Cavaliers show. I can't say the same for what I saw in 2016. Maybe I should have just gone down to the lot and watched the drumlines warm up.
I think 2016 was a pretty bad year all in all.
This may or may not be off topic but
I think one very prevalent problem is that modern shows put too much emphasis on DEEPER MEANINGS. There's such a demand for complexity in show design that it becomes a serious chore to decode what the hell's going on from the audience's standpoint. Take Crown 2017, Cadets 2017, Blue Stars 2016, Crossmen 2016, these shows are borderline conceited and bombastic. There have been A FEW really fantastic and simple shows come out recently that prove DCI still hasn't lost its way, though: Academy 2016, cavaliers 2016, SCV 2017.
Looking into the past, all of the most immediately memorable shows were the simplest: tilt, samurai, between angels and demons, rock star, E=Mc2. You understand the premise of these shows almost instantly, yet they're immortal. I wish the designers would realize that you don't need to be deep to put on a good show. That being said, not all complex shows are terrible. Inferno, Felliniesque, Cabaret Voltaire, to look for America, Spartacus, and Animal Farm are all fantastic. Instead of feeling pretentious these shows feel very insightful, as if the designers created the show out of pointed respect for the source material and wanted to do it justice. Other shows just seem to want to throw something poetic on the field and see if it sticks.
Can we make this a DCI maxim? "Ask not what your show theme can do for you, but what you can do for your show theme."
Those bass heads sound magical
Ok, what’s with the coated 3 and 4 heads but not 1/2 or Spock, tonal choice ooor not? Definitely sounds cool either way 👍
Jonathan Eis-Figueroa It’s for a more open and tonal lower end, but keeping an articulate sound on the high drums
Andy McCreary I knew it was by choice and wasn’t just a “didn’t have heads” deal, thanks
@@SmegmosisJones Andy McCreary
I thought amplified Mets at finals was a no no?
G/than Works same
this was prelims
Bladezz still can’t use one then from what I understand, that’s exactly why bd got the penalty in 2015
Only if it's heard inside, I think.
You guys should give front ensembles more love on this channel. Their lot videos are really cool
Just maybe not Boston's 😬
Observe the wild Tom Cruise in his natural habitat at 4:29
I thought it was House for a second lol
So which one of y’all wanna battle me what’s up with them sticks???!
what?
RADZADproductions I’m just tryna see who wants free smoke??💨💨
0:33 MOVEMOVEMOVEMOVEMOVEMOVEMOVEMOVEMIVEMOVEMOVE
Ping shots from hell
6:58 CADETS 2015!!! 😂😁😁😁😁
That's literally what I think of Everytime I hear that part😂😂
that roll at 1:41 ...... mmm ....
Sounds like Cadets 2015 tbh
Your camera work seems a little more in motion than usual. Just thought I’d point it out, it’s not a good or bad thing to me
6:10
oof 3:48
By this point it's probably his 10 millionth rep on this chunk lol, it happens. He didn't dirt out either, wouldn't call it an oof
They did him dirty by putting that shot in the video.
At least he didn't dirty that part. And was able to get back into it without dirtying it either.
I mean the re entrance wasn't that clean either. It was a bad moment. But those moments happen when you're playing a book meant to push you to your limit. That quad line sounds great for most of the video, they just zoomed in on a guy during probably his worst moment of the lot.
Oof. Yeah, our apologies. That angle shouldn’t have happened. Our attention to detail must have slipped - trying to get five videos edited and posted in one day isn’t the easiest. We will make it up on our visit to the corps at their rehearsal site! Some amazing playing and footage there...
dope!
I am not homophobic but it really amazing just how far dci has went with these insanely flamboyantly gay in the queriest way possible. It's not just the Boston Crusaders but ALL dci. I mean wow.
It's a different time my Dude. I can say that if I were marching now I'd definitely have some strong feelings about the unis these days but I understand why this is the direction that Corps are going.
They're cheaper, MUCH more comfortable in the heat, and it's more practical to get the Corps into a completely different look every year. I don't love it or hate it, I just accept it.
Unfriendly reminder that you can't say "I'm not homophobic" and then say something homophobic! You are still a P.O.S! Good job!
I love how you say not to be homophobic but then proceed to say the most out of touch and homophobic thing you could have said
@@GabeT04hes not afraid of gay people. Hes not being homophobic
13th
Bennett Stone 🦆
I am not a fan of this line, or even this book, but it is so awesome to see the tenors playing with mallets.
what's not to like about this line/book?
@@phobass very good question
Wha???? You've been around long enough tpo know a stellar line when you hear one. What in the world is wrong with their book?
It's boring. To me it feels the same all the way through. That's the thing about Colin's books. He writes some crazy difficult stuff, but it just doesn't reach me wuite the way SCV, Coats, or even BK does. Just because a line performs well does not necessarily mean someone has to like the book. BD is a classic example. They are always near the top, but their drum book is just . . . not fulfilling. As a drummer I can appreciate the difficulty of what they do, but as a musician (I really hope you understand what I am trying to say by this) they do not affect me.
I totally understand what you're saying. I just really really dig this book. the demand is just insane and the execution is just straight there. so hearing that it just doesn't "do it for ya" is just interesting to me. I feel ya about BD though.