By this podcast i have learnt some Beautiful facts:- Slave=Dasa We were not trading Sufism= Peace and love Buddhism= missionary religion No Mandirs in Vedic period Aryan picnic theory is history Horses were not present (Bimbetka caves in MP have 50k years old horse paintings) Chariots are foreign ( Mahabharata happened in KTMs ) Vedas = Qur'an Bible Astrology is Iran's contribution (acha...) Sanskrit is foreign language by the West Ra is of Dravidian India was not in contact with the rest of the world (LMAO). so much fucking knowledge in 1 video , isn't it? love you Ranveer bhai (mazak karra hun , ye kis chutiye ko le aye ho show mei)
Listening to him I think he had a rigid mindset of aryan invasion theory and kept bringing terms to support it. Please sir let him have a debate with abhijeeth sir and let's see what's the result.
The excavation of Sinauli proves that the chariots have always been a part of Indian history. Either he's living under a rock or is deliberately staying ignorant. The reasons unknown but Iranians and their knowledge can't be attributed to islamic influence. The original culture of Zoroatrinism were very Smart.
The oldest evidences of domesticated horses are in fact from India. They are often mentioned in Ramayana and Mahabharata. In fact there are a few horse breeds which are native to certain parts of India only like the ones at Matheran.
The reason he looks down is because he's trying hard to conceal the Truth and think of what to say to propagate his agenda. That's why whenever Ranveer exhibits trust in the speaker (ie., no intention to confront) and/or enthusiasm in the topic being discussed, the speaker looks straight at Ranveer and even his speech becomes more fluent and just "flows".
People look down and talk because they are recollecting what all they know. A lot of people talk like that. Stop imaginig thinks like he has an agenda and shit, u look like the one with an agenda that just cuz he is muslim ull say stuff like this.
Abhijit Chavda is best for your kind. He lies with confidence and c lowns like you think he's telling the truth. 😊 Silly man Chavda says that Jesus wasn't real. That was enough for me to confirm that he is a c lown and his fans are bigger c lowns. 😂 It is a fact and every historian at the very least agree that Jesus existed because there is a lot of proof to support that and ofcourse that includes non-Christian proof too.
Thanks for all the comments and saving my 1.5 hours, else I would have assumed it to be somewhat neutral perspective. By the way, Ashwa (Horse) (ashwamedh yagya) is mentioned in our oldest texts and has been there since Ramayana and Mahabharata times.
At least listen to this podcast from a neutral perspective it's worth watching bunch of dogmatic ( kattar ) people in the comment section he himself talks about evolution being a Muslim....
Same lol , the guy seemed he'd deliver somethin neutral in this podcast , just goin through comments here and got to know it will only gonna be a waste of time😂..
Bimbetka caves in MP have 50k years old horse paintings. This is for Those who fall to this narrative India didn't have native horses .. also this for mr. Allahbadia
"Sanskrit came from europe" "there was no horse in this country so in mahabahrata they used tank" "India was not known for trade" "astrology was persian" "mughals were taking advice from sages, pundits" every time using "indo-europien" word . all of this within 10-15 minutes ye kya sunna par rha hai acha hai ki mai deaf hu.
He was basically trying to say India was nothing and people were living sadist life until the true god and true religion came about in Saudi Arabia. Just another mulla with their age old, familiar mindset.
@ABHIJIT ANAND Exactly brother.. These guys are all the same whether educated or not. They keep saying all other faiths are based on false gods and their faith is the best and true one. That's all they do their entire life.
Just started listening to this episode. Hoping to listen some rational opinions. His Views.. 1. Slave= Daasa 2. Buddhism is a missionary religion. 3. There were no temples in vedic periods. 4. Aryan Invasion theory is legit. Hats off for the patience level of Ranveer..
This is not rational. He is repeating what British taught us and pro-left ppl what Indian to know. Slave is not Dassa. Slave had no right in Islamic state but Das or servant have every right, if they want they can leave the service or rise the social hierarchy. And most importantly Dassa don’t have owners. And u become Das willingly. Slave are caught and sold in market like livestock. This is rational for u! 😂
@@sharda_244 who doesn't migrate bro. Indians have migrated to Canada and America. So after 1000s years if we found genes of Indians in America does this means we are more advance than them right now and they were nomadic people before that. Migration doesn't prove that there have been technology transfers nor does it prove that sanskrit was bought by them.
The Konark Sun Temple is explained in Sanskrit to have been designed as Sun God's chariot having 7 different horses. We Indians had horses in Ramayana's and Mahabharat's times. Its definitely unbelievable that Horses are not native to Bharat
Konark temple is not placed on horses but "Singha" ie tiger. although I am not saying horses were not there in india.. we sure did because we have evidences of it.. but just to correct you
well Bharath was extended to Arab even some says kandhaar is derived form Gandhaar, there was a documentary which was saying these people believe that place had rivers and fruits thousands of years ago, keeping in mind that last king of that place Shantanu was sitting in Hastinapur all the time and was killed the destruction might have happened early..
I realize that earlier I was influenced by some of the biased comments here and chose not to watch the podcast. But later I decided to watch it with an open mind. I must say that this is a very informative podcast. Everyone should watch it and try to understand the history of world from different perspective. Thank you Moshin Raza sir.
@@alphaff9939 and we have horse paintings in Bhimbetka caves from more than 7k years ago. I'm not an expert but it's hard to paint horses if you have never seen them
@@puneetmishra4726 well bhimbetka have paintings from different era the painting which have horse are after 1000 bce atleast get basic information horse are not native animal indian condition is not for horse in entire indus valley civilization we have no horse fossils or even seals
Horses, rhinoceros, tapirs, and many other such mammals evolved in India more than 50 million years ago, an international team of fossil hunters has found, analysing hundreds of tiny pieces of fossils retrieved from a lignite mine in Gujarat over 15 years.With more than 350 new fossils, the study pieces together a nearly complete picture of the skeletal anatomy of the Cambaytherium - a sheep-sized extinct cousin of the ancestors of horses and rhinos that lived on the Indian subcontinent almost 55 million years ago. This guy is just distorting history with his half baked knowledge
India is world's only place with tropical climate , its the place where even lizards, mosquitos , tortoise and every living being can live here , and horses you cab even see them on sculptures of temples and in mahabharatham book , shree krishna and arjun ride on the chariot of horses . Period .
@@alani3992 Indus valley has evidences of horses you need to search muttonhead boy...the tooths of horses are clearly found in IVC...also horse chariots are found in sinauli dating back to atleast 4000 years
Bro. I have got an interesting idea. How about a constructive debate between Abhijit Chavda and Mohsin Raza Khan on the same line of debate between Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock and michael shermer, This woud be really eye opening and highly educative. Both are gentlemen, well educated and would never descend into a fight. Please please consider this bro. This would be awesome. Topic would be Aryan Invasion theory. At the end, I would like to see them smile and shake hands (even say agree to disagree 🙂)
Pashupati is a deity from harappa mohenjo-daro which are literally named after Mohan(Vishnu) and Har(Shiva). He says Shiva came after pashupati. How is that even possible? Ramayana and Mahabharata whiçh are 12000 and 6000 years old mention Shiva and Vishnu as deities too! He is either a fraud or completely out of his mind!
Would be good idea, because Chavda tends to omit facts that are uncomfortable, & magnify only certain facts. He seems to be on a certain 1 track only, rather than logically going step by step.
My recommendation to the channel would be that in the end they should ask the speaker to suggest some readings/books/articles to expand more on what the podcast contains.
In just 40 minutes i learnt this Beautiful facts🙌👌🙌 Slave=Dasa We were not that trading= meanwhile Krishna coins in foreign Sufism= Peace and love Buddhism= missionary religion No Mandirs in Vedic period Aryan picnic theory is history 😆 Horses are not present= Bhimbetka caves hold my madda Chariots are foreign= Mahabharata happened in DUKE Bike Vedas = Qur'an Bible Astrology is Iran's contribution🤪 Sanskrit is foreign from West Hinduism=AIT ka gift Hinduism philosophies= Hinduism religions Ra is of Dravidian 🙌 wow old memories got aired again ..what a fun days were in school I used to learn this facts in my social textbook. Thanks Ranveer Anna 👌
Well you know who was the 1st,2nd,3rd,4th and 5th education minister of India. So one can easily figure out the history tainted by the Jihadis and leftist historians of India. It is not a 🚀 science to figure this thing out or connecting the dots too.
Congrats Ranveer almost 1.25 hours conversation..👏👏 Seems like your meditation is helping you listening so calmly which I can't 😉 I take this learning from this podcast 😃😃
Sinauli and rakhigarhi excavations are older than aryan invasion theory. Chariot found at sinauli and dna studies show that all indians had same DNA north to south and no aryans ever invaded with horses.
Pashupati is a deity from harappa mohenjo-daro which are literally named after Mohan(Vishnu) and Har(Shiva). He says Shiva came after pashupati. How is that even possible? Ramayana and Mahabharata whiçh are 12000 and 6000 years old mention Shiva and Vishnu as deities too! He is either a fraud or completely out of his mind!
Damn this comment section 😔........just because he has a different perspective doesn't mean he is wrong or right ..............the motive of this show is to listen to all sides of the stories..... Keep yourself open keep your mind open
It's called freedom of expression, people can give their opinion. Aryan invention theory is nonsense DNA testing already proved that, so keep yourself open keep your mind open.
Yeah u r absolutely ryt! Dat audience r not able to listen his perspectives! But Der s also a reason fo this! He s preaching what is in our textbooks which has been set by the west! How can we argue the facts? Chariots n horses not from India Shiva not from India Sanskrit is not from India I mean wat abt ashwamedha yagna, ashwinikumaras- Sona of twin horses, bhagavadgita, kurukshetra war, dasharatha??? I mean v can go on!! Common v can't argue the facts na! N though fo a min I think dat s ryt, dude his analysis n reasoning s juztt bullshit! He s picking on particular thing n not seeing the whole picture here! If he says Sanskrit originated from hindi hw cab one believe it's a joke dude! Common!!
Chariots have disvovered in archeology in Sinauli his theory is wrong. Besides the barbarism of sufis is present throughout history. Sita Ram Goel, Ram Swaroop, R.C. Majumdar any day.
He is an Is -lamist, so you can't expect anything truly intellectual from these people bcos of their biased attitude towards their barbaric cult. In short, he is doing 'Intellectual Ji -had'
I’m a 70 year old white American woman and I still have an open mind because I want to always be learning something new. I don’t want the world to become “beige “ 😊 because the diversity in people and cultures is what makes our world so unique and fascinating. Great interview and discussion!
great to see a mature person all religions teach love and compassion but people like to argue and fight because of the difference in opinion rather than practising the good values
@@abhirj87 So Krishna on his horses are a fraud? And B.G mention of Mahabratha War is a fraud.The skeletal remains excavated 20 metres down was found radioactive is all lies in Krusethra area of the great battle.He is a fraud of Western mindset.
As Hindus we should be open to hearing and understanding other religions and cultures. And how these cultures interpret ours … that’s what Hinduism has always been about open mindedness… I didn’t find this podcast biased in any way he only spoke facts he read . Today’s gen need patience in hearing to others as well .. about horses he’s talking about a specific century during Indus Valley civilisation I guess not periods of mahabharata or ramayana that’s my interpretation from the podcast .
There is difference between facts and propaganda.. quran and hadis is full of instance where they used used to capture slaves would use them as sex slaves and then sell them to buy weapons.. Read buddy I myself have read then I am saying this.. and this guy is saying his prophet freed Jews didn't use slaves and all
He mentioned that horses were still being imported even after the Mughals and Europeans came to India because horses can't breed here. If that's true, how come horses stopped breeding after the Mahabharata? I'm open to learning about other religions as a Hindu. But I don't want to be blindly led in the name of secularism.
@@huzi936 Firstly, read history beyond those textbooks. Then, you will understand. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge about Bhimbetka caves & Sinauli excavation, he's not a historian. Aryan theory is proved wrong by your dear Europeans. But, this guy is only spreading propaganda. It's not about religion. It's about mentality. And, if you think that those Nehruvian historians know all about history. Then, you are wrong. Wait few decades, this old hypocrites being colonial historians will vanish with their propaganda. None will listen to them. We will correct our text books. We already have set the narrative. From history of Khilji to Babar, we will establish the history of Ahom, Chola & Suhel dev. So dear left leaning Abdul chacha, you can have peace now. ✌️ 🧡
@@huzi936 If you think that you, left leaning hypocrites are more educated than us. Then, you are wrong. You only know that much of history that your Chinese masters has put into your brain. Read Das Kapital by your uncle Max and read about all the atrocities of Stalin. Then, you will understand Communism only sound good on paper, not in real world. So, don't lecture anyone about being bhakt. It's your kind who is truly blind & live in fantasy. 🧡
Can Sinauli burials be non-Vedic? Some analysts are dismissing Sinauli as un related to Vedic culture or Samskṛtī because the people are buried instead of cremated. It is sure cremation is popular in Sanātana Dharma, but burials are also present in our tradition. Burials are also mentioned in Ṛgveda as one of the ways in which the dead individuals are treated, as we have already seen. Another doubt that has arisen is due to the design of the head-gears. The head-gear of some of the warriors contains horns. In the current depictions of our ancient people, the horned-headgear is associated with the Daityas and the Dānavas. It will be misleading to conclude that Sinauli is non-Vedic based on these factors alone. The Bharatas and their ancestors were an admixture of the Ādityas, the Daityas and the Dānavas. The ancestral king Yayāti had two wives Devayāni and Ṡarmiṣthā. Devayāni, is the daughter of Daitya Guru Ṡukrāchārya. She is the mother of Yadu and Turvaṡa, the eldest sons of Yayāti. Ṡarmiṣthā is the daughter of the Daitya king Vṛṣaparvā. She is the mother of Anu, Druhyu and Pūru, the younger sons of Yayāti. The mother of all the Yadavas is Devayāni and the mother of Pūru, the founder of the Pūru dynasty is Ṡarmiṣthā, both Daitya women. The Bharatas descended from the Pūrus and the Kurus like the Pāndavas and Kauravas descended from the Bharatas. Kṛṣṇa, Balarāma and other Vṛṣnis descended from the Yadavas. The Dānavas like Maya were allies of the Paṇḍavas who gave them many weapons and chariots. The chariot of Arjuna came from Varuṇa, who is revered by the Bhargava sages like the Asura Guru Sukrachārya and by the sages in the lineage of Vasiṣṭha and Agastya. Vasiṣṭha was the priest of Sri Rama. Vyasa was the descendant of Vasiṣṭha and the grandfather and guide of the Paṇḍavas. The Ṛgveda mentions many wars and the Purāṇas render them as the wars between the Devas and the Asuras. But if we analyse the Ṛgveda closely, these wars are fought between the people who worship Indra (like the Purus and the Bharatas) and the other people who don't worship Indra (like the Anus and the Druhyus). The Purāṇas portrayed the people who do not worship Indra as the Asuras, categorizing them as Daityas and Dānavas. The word used by Ṛgveda for the non-Indra worshipers is anindra (those who are without Indra) and avrata (those who don't have any devotion to Indra). The Sinauli settlement with their burial practices and horned head-gears can as well belong to the groups affiliated to the Daitya-Dānavas like Maya Dānava. But this doesn't make them non-Vedic, because Dānavas like Maya do have a place in our Veda, Itihasa Purāṇas. The Analysis of the Place Names The place Sinauli falls in the Kuru Rāṣtra, or the Kuru Janapada, the region between Ganga in the east and Sarasvati in the west and divided by Yamuna into two parts. A place named after Maya viz. Mayastali or Mayarāṣtra (Meerut, 52 km away) is close to Sinauli. The places mentioned in the Mahābhārata like the Vyāghra-prasta (Baghpat, 25 km away), Svarna-prasta (Sonipat, 29 km away), Paniprasta (35 km away), Varanavati (21 km away) are close to Sinauli. Hastinapura is 75 km to the east and Indraprasta is 55 km to the south of Sinauli. Paruṡurāma Kṣetra (now Alamgirpur, the eastern most Harappan settlement, 3300-1300 BCE) is 33 km away from Sinauli, where Paruṡurāma taught weaponry to Bhīṣma. The region around Sinauli is dotted with places resembling chariot construction such as Rathora (Rathakāra - chariot-maker, 6 km away) and Luhara (Lohakāra - metal worker, 2 km away). The name Sinauli is likely a derived form of Sina-sthali, similar to the other place-names in Kuru Rashtra ending with the suffix 'sthali' (meaning - a place) like Bastali (Vyasa-sthali), Bamanauli (Brahmana-sthali). The place names in Kuru Rashtra, contains suffixes like Prasta, Sthali and Kṣetra. The word 'sina' means a 'store’, 'garment' 'fetter', 'bond', 'body' etc, implying that it is one of the places associated with making chariots and weapons. Probably the people who lived in this Sinauli settlement were a warrior class of men and women supplying weapons to the army of the kings. Sinauli and the Kurukṣetra War Whether the warriors buried in the Sinauli burials participated in the Kurukṣetra War as one among the many small military units, depends on the chosen date of the Kurukṣetra War. Sinauli excavations are dated to 2100 BCE to 1900 BCE. One of the Kurukṣetra War dates close to it is 1793 BCE proposed by Shri Ashok Bhatnagar. If we take this Kurukṣetra War as the basis, then the Sinauli warriors were 100 to 300 years older to the Kurukṣetra War, placing them as part of the late Ṛgvedic period, during the formative periods of the 1st, 5th, 8th, 9th or the 10th Maṇḍalas, especially the 10th Maṇḍala. Several battles are mentioned in these Maṇḍalas too, like in the older Maṇḍalas. With the Kurukṣetra War date at 1793 BCE, we can date Samtanu mentioned in the 10th Maṇḍala of Ṛgveda to around 1930 BCE. Samtanu is the youngest king in the lineage of the Bharata kings mentioned in the Ṛgveda, who also appear as the ancestors of the Pāṇḍavas and the Kauravas who waged the Kurukṣetra War. In the linage of kings leading to the Pāṇḍavas, the Ṛgveda stops at Samtanu. In the linage of sages leading to Vyāsa, the Ṛgveda stops at Parāṡara. Samtanu’s son Vicitravīrya and Parāṡara’s son Vyāsa is in the future of Ṛgveda. Dhṛtarāṣtra and Pāṇdu are the next generation of Vicitravīrya and Vyāsa. The Kauravas and the Pāṇḍavas who took place in the Kurukṣetra War are in the next generation of Dhṛtarāṣtra and Pāṇdu. Thus, this date 1793 BCE corroborates well with our analysis that the chariot and the Sinauli burial sites belong to the 10th Maṇḍala funeral hymns which speaks about the burials. Another date of Kurukṣetra War 1952 BCE is from Shri Mohan Gupta. If we follow this date, then this settlement falls right in the Kurukṣetra War period. The 3K Kurukṣetra War dates of Shri Vedaveer Arya (3162 BCE) and Manish Pandit (3067 BCE) will make the settlement well into the future of the lifetime of the Kuru-Paṇḍavas during the lifetime of their descendants named in the Purāṇas like Viṣṇu Purāṇa. There is another date by Shri KK Ramamurthy at 1504 BCE and RN Iyengar at 1478 BCE which will make this settlement part of the middle Ṛgvedic period of Maṇḍala 2 and 4, closer to the lifetime of the sages like Gr̥tsamada and kings like Sahadeva and Somaka or even to the early period of Maṇḍala 6, 3 and 7, closer to the lifetime of the kings like Sudās and Divodāsa depending upon the variability in the chronology of the Maṇḍala wise evolution of the Ṛgveda.
Thanks for your information but can you please share some journals, research papers any archeological evidence report by any of the countries regulating body or a University…also please mention if this is a primary source or secondary mostly seems to be secondary but still asking to clear the doubt..
@@r.b.8018 Aaega hi nhi, people like them just go and say that they don't debate anyone who isn't a certified historian. Jo bhi ho, iska propaganda to comments mein hi phoot gaya.
He spewed venom and we Indian are loving it. Mainly Hindus blinding wah Ranveer wah! Sufisam has a history of barbarism and en mass genocide. What is wrong with u Ranveer. WTF!
@@sahiltripathy3438 Rumi was a racist who supported slavery. This is a fact from his writings. He was also a Hinduphobic bigot who supported attacks against Hindu India. This too can be seen in his writings. Maybe you're the one who should educate yourself and stop mixing Sri Krishna’s Divine name with ugly Abrahamic things like Sufi and Rumi.
Man this comment section is a shit show. Everyone's first option when they don't like his opinions is to go straight to his religion. There is no need to bring religion in any of this.
He is telling the story form a Muslim mindset. I watched this just bcoz of you ranveer Bhai but trust me it was nothing less then a third degree 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@alani3992 war chariots driven by ox?'😂😂😂😂...the burials of men and womens found beside the chariots were of warriors ..also the height of chariot indicates that it was driven by horses.. first do some research rather than speaking lies just to support a bogus theory😂😂😂😂the model of the chariots match with the chariots mentioned in RIGVEDA
पिछले कुछ समय से विशेष ज्ञान वाले वैज्ञानिकों को सुनते आ रहे हैं जो कहते हैं पुरानी सभ्यता के कुछ निशान होते हैं । वो प्रत्यक्ष को ही प्रमाण मानते हैं । जब भी सभ्यता हो उसने कुछ अवशेष छोड़ना चाहिए । उनसे प्रश्न यह है की किसी भी वस्तु की आयु होती हैं या नहीं? यदि हाँ तो उसकी अवधि क्या है? उत्तर नहीं भी पता हो, पर यह स्वयं सिद्ध हैं की वह काल का ग्रास है । समय के साथ उसमें परिवर्तन होगा । जो परिवर्तनशील है वह यथा स्थिति में होना असंभव है । संभव क्या है? वह जो परिवर्तन से असंबद्ध हैं । वह है ज्ञान । इससे यह सिद्ध होता हैं की प्रत्यक्ष आवश्यक नहीं यदि ज्ञान हो तो। अतः उन सभी वैज्ञानिकों से अनुरोध है केवल खोदकर प्रमाण न निकालें अपितु ज्ञान पर भी ध्यान दें ।
Lord, his speech just hurts my ears, and don't know why feel mentally disturbed by hearing this man speak, In a very subtle way, he is making sure he is building a narrative, ensuring to stamp us that the Indian heritage is borrowed by these tribal gulf cultures. India was disorganized and isolated, and somehow gulf was more organized and civilized give a break, and after being a genuine follower of this channel never i thought I'll come across so a centric and rigid perspective, I just can't understand why it sounds so interesting to Ranveer.
That's why he was asking many follow up questions because he was paying attention to the FACTS being stated. I struggle to keep a straight face when listening to Abhijeet Chavda.
@@ckastic don't listen to anybody.....watch a documentary or read about the Sinauli excavation and you will see their lies getting exposed pretty easily.....
My grandfather's name was Durga Das. Like many Punjabi Pandits he was a slave to Durga 😭 sad life being a slave to a powerful female heavenly being. Thank you sir for mansplaining our religion and culture not even Brahman (God) itself could educate us so well🙏
I understand your sarcasm. but for brainwashed I have to write this to unwash them. Wait a minute, Slave is not dasa. Slave is the one who is forced to be a slave without freedom. Dasa is the servent who selfwilled to serve someone like God as long as one wants, maintaining freedom. Slavery is alien to Vedic civilization. there is no word for a forced slaved in sanskrit or in our ancient sanatan vedic civilisation. slavery is against dharma. Aryan invasion theory is leftist fruad. Arya is not a race it is title given to ancient educated people who graduated from Vedic-buddhist universities and gurukul education systems. Arya means Nobel. for eg. Buddhism has concept of 4 Aryasatta (4 Nobel truth.). Arya = Nobel, Satta/Satya/Satt = Truth. Nobody is Arya by birth it is earned by karma/achievements/actions/siddhi and gunas/skills/talent. according to our hindu and buddhist scriptures. that completely exposed this evil aryan-dravidian political separatism myth.
He is exactly the type of historians one should avoid. These are the people who write our history books, twisting facts such that it suits their own narrative. I was eagerly waiting for the next podcast but pura mood ka satyanash ho gya. Choose your guests wisely Mr Allahbadia.
@Dear comrade I agree Madarsa History is trash they teach that Allah holds the sky but that doesn't mean we believe anything on the net and we should do our own research
Kaikeyi, step mom of Rama was from Iran. Infact there was a Hindu king named Dusharat who ruled Turkey. ...it is corrupted name of the original name Dusharath. It is in turkey that they found a tablet written in sanskrit about training of horses. So, Mohsins claim that India dint have horses is false. A chariot was discovered in Sanauli ...so was that carried by cows? Also, sufis were not spiritual at all....they were the eyes of their kings( from. Islamized Iran), to keep eyes on kashmir. The intro of your guest dint appeal to me to see this episode.
It is not established that Sanauli chariot found there carried by horses. They are struggling to find that animal as they figure out that the chariot found were not ment for horses.
His education background is "Mr. Khan possesses a master’s in international economics and international relations from the School of Advanced International Studies, The Johns Hopkins University, with a specialization in South Asia. He also has an MA in Global Political Economy from the University of Hull where he was a British Chevening Scholar. His undergraduate degree is in economics from the University of Delhi." Whatever he is saying is definitely only his self delusional deductions. No linguistic or historian or archaeologist background but he is so confident about his deductions.
@@shahanarif4295 atleast he has evidence Dasa = slave 😂 seriously ? King like sudas and divodas of rigveda must be slave and ruling the Arya clan 😂😂 Horse not native to India ? ( Shivalik horse 😂? , Bhimbetka 10,000bce carving of horses )
Comedy for the first time...very much needed break from serious and deep episodes...Now it's time to bring J Sai Deepak ji to bring seriousness and factual reasoning to all that was spoken here...
How close it(Sunauli excavated Chariots) is to the chariots of Kurukṣetra War, in general? Spokes are mentioned in the Kurukṣetra War chariots. But if we interpret the spokes as the copper triangles like the ones seen in the Sinauli chariot, that poses no problems in the identification. The excavated Sinauli chariot is missing the umbrella and the pole to keep the banner of the warrior. The colour of umbrella, the colour of the banner (flag) and the sign printed in the banner are vividly described in Mahābhārata for each warrior. Warrior Arjuna had an ape symbol in his banner. Warrior Drona had the pot symbol and so on. It is possible that these parts are lost in these excavated chariots. The banner can be affixed atop the pole situated towards the front portion of the chariot box. May be the umbrella too is affixed on top this same pole, with the flag-post and the flag affixed atop the umbrella. The umbrella is made of silk or other type of cloths. Since these are not made of durable material, it can disintegrate and get lost easily in 4000+ years. But a better explanation is that these chariots are a slightly older version, and prepared for the burial rituals as a sub category of the Soma carts corresponding to the 10th Maṇḍala burial related hymns. A possible Ṛgvedic Connection The Ṛgvedic hymn 15 in the 10th Maṇḍala speaks about both burying the dead (anagni-dagdha) and cremating them (agni-dagdha). The hymn 18 of the 10th Maṇḍala talks about a burial house (gṛha) often compared to a womb (yoni) where ghee (clarified butter) is kept in pots. This matches with the 116 burial houses unearthed at Sinauli. They contain many earthen pots which could have been used to fill offerings like ghee, butter and medicines. The Ṛgvedic hymn 18 of the 10th Maṇḍala mentions about taking the bow from the hand of the dead. The bow of the warrior taken from his hand is placed beside the dead-body of the warriors in Sinauli. Along with the bow, other weapons of the warrior like the shields and swords are kept. Their chariots too are kept in the burial house. A pair of chariots are seen in one of the Sinauli burial house possibly belonging to a king or a chief. This is close to the descriptions of the pair of Soma Carts mentioned in the Ṛgveda (Hymn 13 of the 10th Maṇḍala). One of them represents mortality (Yamayāna) and another immortality (Devayāna). The pair, Yama and Yami, are the overseers of death since Yama, the son of Vivasvat, chose mortality instead of immortality and hence is the first mortal. The hymn compares the deceased with Yama and Yami pair and urges them to choose mortality instead of immortality for the sake of the devatas and for the sake of their offspring. The hymn talks about the five steps (pañca padāni) to climb the mount (rupa) and to ascend the four-legged bed (Catuṣpadī) as per the ritual injunctions. These four-legged death beds or coffins, where the dead body is placed are found in the Sinauli burials. The mount mentioned in the verse may be referring to the burial mounts. The Ṛgveda 10th Maṇḍala hymn 15 also talks about ritual offerings of Soma, butter and ghee (clarified butter) to the forefathers inside the burial house. The ritual pots found inside the Sinauli burials indicate offerings made to these forefathers. Thus, the Sinauli burial sites resemble very closely with the descriptions of the funeral hymns in the 10th Maṇḍala of Ṛgveda. Some individuals are mentioned in the Ṛgveda Anukramaṇi (as authors of hymns) with the suffix Yāmāyana indicating that they are deceased with some significant death ceremonies given for them. Śaṅkha Yāmāyana (RV 10.15), Damana Yāmāyana (RV 10.16), Devaśravas Yāmāyana (RV 10.17), Saṃkusuka Yāmāyana (RV 10.18), Mathita Yāmāyana (RV 10.19), Kumāra Yāmāyana (RV 10.135) and Ūrdhvakr̥śana Yāmāyana (RV 10.144). The name of the king or chief who is buried with the two chariots in the Sinauli burial site, could be any of these names. Kumāra and Ūrdhvakr̥śana are not directly related to the funeral though related to death. Devaśravas is an ancient king ancestral to Divodāsa and ancient than the oldest Maṇḍalas like 3, 7 and 6 and hence can be excluded. Mathita too can be excluded as the narrative is not close to funerals but to cows. Damana is cremated instead of buried as the corresponding hymn (RV 10.16) urges the fire (Agni) to be gentle with his body as it burns. The hymn of Śaṅkha too leans towards cremation. Saṃkusuka is surely buried as indicated by the corresponding hymn (RV 10.18). Hence this burial with two chariots could as well be that of Saṃkusuka. The hymn urges the earth to be gentle, be soft as wool, to his body as he is buried. उप सर्प मातरम् भूमिम् एताम् उरुव्यचसम् पृथिवीं सुशेवाम् | ऊर्णम्रदा युवतिर् दक्षिणावत एषा त्वा पातु निरृतेर् उपस्थात् ||
U think he is muslim just because of his name?? 😂😂 he doesnt even believe in islamic teachings.. he is talking about history. Ppl are so dumb here in this comment section.
Das=Servant not slave..India never had any slave history even Western historians agree to it I don't know from where he got the translation of das to slave😂..there are people with Das surname that does not mean they are slave for example Gaurnaga Das means...Das(Servant) Of Gauranga(Another name of Chaintaya Mahaprabhu).
Wait a minute, Slave is not dasa. Slave is the one who is forced to be a slave without freedom. Dasa is the servent who selfwilled to serve someone like God as long as one wants, maintaining freedom. Slavery is alien to Vedic civilization. there is no word for a forced slaved in sanskrit or in our ancient sanatan vedic civilisation. slavery is against dharma. Aryan invasion theory is leftist fruad. Arya is not a race it is title given to ancient educated people who graduated from Vedic-buddhist universities and gurukul education systems. Arya means Nobel. for eg. Buddhism has concept of 4 Aryasatta (4 Nobel truth.). Arya = Nobel, Satta/Satya/Satt = Truth. Nobody is Arya by birth it is earned by karma/achievements/actions/siddhi and gunas/skills/talent. accoding to our hindu and buddhist scriptures. that completely exposed this evil aryan-dravidian political separatism myth.
After seen title of the podcast, I thought my knowledge get improved on religion. But just after listing for few menutes I gave up, he had come up with same old agenda. Hats off to u ranveer for ur patience.
I think you guys need to study and learn this new Archeological site in Sinauli, Uttar Pradesh to find out chariots and horses in Indian Civilization which dates back to pre invasion era
I can’t stop laughing looking at ranveers face😂😂😂… Kudos to you for being so patient. Btw why did you make him an all star bro. Make a debate session with him and AC sir. Please bro❤🎉
Such a brilliant podcast. I came across it right when I was exploring the subject myself. In awe of Mohsin Khan and the ease with which he briefly laid out a map of history of religions. Hoping to hear you on many more related subjects Sir.
Some one has termed this man a great comedian. Very accurate.Half knowledge is bad ,biased half knowledge is dangerous. I hope BeerBiceps may avoid this hman.
Please provide your scientific research evidence, not dot connecting assumption to prove your own bias!! Only demonstrable proofs can be granted! Otherwise, we can speculate anything and laugh at anything and it will never stop.
Abhijit has unparalleled wisdom. I heard about this stooge for the first time in my life. Abhijit Chavda and this guy in the same screen would be an insult to Abhijit.
Das = Servant (Not at all slave bro) First 10 minutes are enough to know that the episode is not worth it. Thanks for the stand up comedy 😌❤️ (please don't bring him back to ruine our one more hour)
I don't know the authenticity of all the facts he is talking about, but the amount of facts and information he has shared is just amazing. We got to learn so much. I don't feel that it is correct to criticize someone because of the fact that what we believe is only correct. Please be open to others views as well..
We need to go with the proof and truth ...not this half knowledge....his focus was just an ego game want supremeacy but in a clean decent way....to make people believe him presenting certain crafted things
The Rigveda used the word Shiva as an epithet of multiple gods you dimwit.....why aren't you idiots understanding the history of Sanathan Dharma before blabbering?
He's right! Vedas has no mention of Shiva and Shiva is considered pre - Vedic God and a god of IVC. The closest mention to Shiva is Rudra that too in Rig Veda. But going forward Shiva was assimilated into Sanatan.
But dude there s also a lott of other history behind this! He can't cover many more evidence by showing a particular evidence! He has to look at the whole history! Before vamana, Der was Matsya, varaha, narasimha, kurma avataras! In every sentence he s giving a particular evidence n saying this s the whole thing! How come? Sanskrit is not from India like seriously?? His argument was like hindi sounds soo much like sanskrit so sanskrit emerged frm hindi?? Does it make sense??? This guy s not able to see the whole thing!
You are doing great podcasts Ranveer, hats off to your efforts , but don't get swayed away by words whitewashing the so called peaceful religion, read the texts with context. Don't believe in heresay and takaiya. Please due thorough due dilligence in this specific matter as this it is not about rising Hindu muslim tensions but it is about being aware on what a particular community is hiding and why they are doing so. I am in no position to tell you about doing research you know better than anyone I suppose knows. Take care, All the best. Keep doing the good work.
Fabulous episode. Please make 2 more episodes with same guy. 1. Pegan Religion. 2. Connection between Zoroastronism and Hinduism (or Indo-Greek civilization.)
I was initially a more narrow minded person, but after I started consuming World History, I have watched change in my thinking. And I have realised that History is the most important subject that decides one's mindset. So I guess the more the people know and are educated by the World History, they are lesser the narrow minded, which eventually leads to harmony among different sects, cultured, group and religion of people.
By this podcast i have learnt some Beautiful facts:-
Slave=Dasa
We were not trading
Sufism= Peace and love
Buddhism= missionary religion
No Mandirs in Vedic period
Aryan picnic theory is history
Horses were not present (Bimbetka caves in MP have 50k years old horse paintings)
Chariots are foreign ( Mahabharata happened in KTMs )
Vedas = Qur'an Bible
Astrology is Iran's contribution (acha...)
Sanskrit is foreign language by the West
Ra is of Dravidian
India was not in contact with the rest of the world (LMAO).
so much fucking knowledge in 1 video , isn't it?
love you Ranveer bhai (mazak karra hun , ye kis chutiye ko le aye ho show mei)
Op bhai
Lmao 😭
🔥🔥🔥broo
Op
Exactly 💯
Listening to him I think he had a rigid mindset of aryan invasion theory and kept bringing terms to support it. Please sir let him have a debate with abhijeeth sir and let's see what's the result.
I am in complete agreement with you
His last name tells us a lot about him. 🙄🙄
@@Vishakha_B897 True bro. Felt like He is more Abrahamic than being Indian
@@Vishakha_B897 I feel the same . Being open minded Ranveer listened his perspective too..Debate is a great option
Even though the views are conflicting, the guest has a condescending attitude which makes the podcast a little unpleasant.
The excavation of Sinauli proves that the chariots have always been a part of Indian history. Either he's living under a rock or is deliberately staying ignorant. The reasons unknown but Iranians and their knowledge can't be attributed to islamic influence. The original culture of Zoroatrinism were very Smart.
True
Which region of India had chariots can u specify
@@vj_great551 search about sinauli you commie
@@vj_great551 all of it.
The oldest evidences of domesticated horses are in fact from India. They are often mentioned in Ramayana and Mahabharata. In fact there are a few horse breeds which are native to certain parts of India only like the ones at Matheran.
The reason he looks down is because he's trying hard to conceal the Truth and think of what to say to propagate his agenda. That's why whenever Ranveer exhibits trust in the speaker (ie., no intention to confront) and/or enthusiasm in the topic being discussed, the speaker looks straight at Ranveer and even his speech becomes more fluent and just "flows".
People look down and talk because they are recollecting what all they know. A lot of people talk like that. Stop imaginig thinks like he has an agenda and shit, u look like the one with an agenda that just cuz he is muslim ull say stuff like this.
So what is “ truth” as per your opinion?
Abhijit Chavda is best for your kind. He lies with confidence and c lowns like you think he's telling the truth. 😊
Silly man Chavda says that Jesus wasn't real. That was enough for me to confirm that he is a c lown and his fans are bigger c lowns. 😂 It is a fact and every historian at the very least agree that Jesus existed because there is a lot of proof to support that and ofcourse that includes non-Christian proof too.
Thanks for all the comments and saving my 1.5 hours, else I would have assumed it to be somewhat neutral perspective. By the way, Ashwa (Horse) (ashwamedh yagya) is mentioned in our oldest texts and has been there since Ramayana and Mahabharata times.
Yes words like Ashwa are common across PIE, but does not mean that the horses were domesticated.
At least listen to this podcast from a neutral perspective it's worth watching bunch of dogmatic ( kattar ) people in the comment section he himself talks about evolution being a Muslim....
Seriously dude
Same here
@@lakshvardhan3549 ah man ! Truth is never neutral .
Same lol , the guy seemed he'd deliver somethin neutral in this podcast , just goin through comments here and got to know it will only gonna be a waste of time😂..
Bimbetka caves in MP have 50k years old horse paintings.
This is for Those who fall to this narrative India didn't have native horses .. also this for mr. Allahbadia
Exactly 💯
True
Exactly!!!
As far as i am concerned there were no horses ..
50k year wow. Source - out of my ass.
"Sanskrit came from europe"
"there was no horse in this country so in mahabahrata they used tank"
"India was not known for trade"
"astrology was persian"
"mughals were taking advice from sages, pundits"
every time using "indo-europien" word .
all of this within 10-15 minutes
ye kya sunna par rha hai acha hai ki mai deaf hu.
Again taking away the real credit of our Indian ancestors to drop down the self esteem of our sanatan dharma followers.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was basically trying to say India was nothing and people were living sadist life until the true god and true religion came about in Saudi Arabia.
Just another mulla with their age old, familiar mindset.
@ABHIJIT ANAND Exactly brother.. These guys are all the same whether educated or not. They keep saying all other faiths are based on false gods and their faith is the best and true one. That's all they do their entire life.
Are we supposed to include Adam & Eve, Noah's flood, Mahabharata etc as science or history discussion.
Finally found a guy with the mind who wrote our NCERT👁️🗨️
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True 😂😂😂 khena kha chatio ho
Ki bolte chas? 😂
Definitely one of the people who wrote NCERT
From now on, Mohsin Raza Khan is my favourite comedian.
Even he looks like Owaisi
@@rosepainting8775 agreed 😂
Us bhai us
Earth is also flat according to him
Same here bro 🤣
We can clearly see the hate for hinduisam by mohsin he doesn't know anything about hinduisam and aryan theory
I guess he certainly knows the real truth, but he is bending the truth in a way which suits for his propaganda...
We'll thts how certain people are, they're trained from childhood to hate hindus and spread hatred.
+1
+1
Hate? Give me the time stamp
Just started listening to this episode. Hoping to listen some rational opinions.
His Views..
1. Slave= Daasa
2. Buddhism is a missionary religion.
3. There were no temples in vedic periods.
4. Aryan Invasion theory is legit.
Hats off for the patience level of Ranveer..
This is not rational. He is repeating what British taught us and pro-left ppl what Indian to know.
Slave is not Dassa. Slave had no right in Islamic state but Das or servant have every right, if they want they can leave the service or rise the social hierarchy. And most importantly Dassa don’t have owners.
And u become Das willingly. Slave are caught and sold in market like livestock.
This is rational for u! 😂
He will not be successful in his propaganda. This should be his last podcast in this channel.
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@@sharda_244 who doesn't migrate bro. Indians have migrated to Canada and America. So after 1000s years if we found genes of Indians in America does this means we are more advance than them right now and they were nomadic people before that. Migration doesn't prove that there have been technology transfers nor does it prove that sanskrit was bought by them.
@@nirbhaykr299 exactly brother
Thanks!
The Konark Sun Temple is explained in Sanskrit to have been designed as Sun God's chariot having 7 different horses. We Indians had horses in Ramayana's and Mahabharat's times.
Its definitely unbelievable that Horses are not native to Bharat
He is a peaceful...
Don't expect sense from him
For a second I felt it's Owaisi speaking.
Konark temple is not placed on horses but "Singha" ie tiger. although I am not saying horses were not there in india.. we sure did because we have evidences of it.. but just to correct you
He means to say our books are crap
Have U give a thought that the story of Mahabharat and Ramayana is written in less then 1000 years ago.
well Bharath was extended to Arab even some says kandhaar is derived form Gandhaar, there was a documentary which was saying these people believe that place had rivers and fruits thousands of years ago, keeping in mind that last king of that place Shantanu was sitting in Hastinapur all the time and was killed the destruction might have happened early..
Thank you for all the comments. I saved myself 1.5 hours.
Aacha huwa nahi dekha
😂
Same
Same .me naam dekh ke hi samj gya tha 😂😂
I realize that earlier I was influenced by some of the biased comments here and chose not to watch the podcast. But later I decided to watch it with an open mind. I must say that this is a very informative podcast. Everyone should watch it and try to understand the history of world from different perspective. Thank you Moshin Raza sir.
Small request MR. ranveer please bring mr. Chavda specially for ARYAN PICNIC THEORY.
PLEASE DO A SPECIFIC PODCAST ON THAT TOPIC WITH ALL QUESTIONS.
😂
Raj vedam of sangam talks
Cause he is going to say the answer liked by you?
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂🤣😂🤣
Anhijit Chawda is Far more Convincing and Accurate in his Research and Logic as far as the History of Bharat is Concerned
Dude, you are comparing a Academic person to a youtuber ?
@@mohammedsadhiq5567 an academic person who claimed that there were no horses in India 3k years ago?
@@puneetmishra4726he is true we don't any any horse fossils specially when indus valley civilization was alive
@@alphaff9939 and we have horse paintings in Bhimbetka caves from more than 7k years ago. I'm not an expert but it's hard to paint horses if you have never seen them
@@puneetmishra4726 well bhimbetka have paintings from different era the painting which have horse are after 1000 bce atleast get basic information horse are not native animal indian condition is not for horse in entire indus valley civilization we have no horse fossils or even seals
If India didn't had horses back then in ancient times, then how the hell we performed Ashwamedha yagya?? back then thousands year ago.....
Horses, rhinoceros, tapirs, and many other such mammals evolved in India more than 50 million years ago, an international team of fossil hunters has found, analysing hundreds of tiny pieces of fossils retrieved from a lignite mine in Gujarat over 15 years.With more than 350 new fossils, the study pieces together a nearly complete picture of the skeletal anatomy of the Cambaytherium - a sheep-sized extinct cousin of the ancestors of horses and rhinos that lived on the Indian subcontinent almost 55 million years ago.
This guy is just distorting history with his half baked knowledge
@@20-aman leave this rahul Gandhi podcast
but no evidence of domestication before the Aryans.
India is world's only place with tropical climate , its the place where even lizards, mosquitos , tortoise and every living being can live here , and horses you cab even see them on sculptures of temples and in mahabharatham book , shree krishna and arjun ride on the chariot of horses . Period .
@@alani3992 Indus valley has evidences of horses you need to search muttonhead boy...the tooths of horses are clearly found in IVC...also horse chariots are found in sinauli dating back to atleast 4000 years
Bro. I have got an interesting idea. How about a constructive debate between Abhijit Chavda and Mohsin Raza Khan on the same line of debate between Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock and michael shermer, This woud be really eye opening and highly educative. Both are gentlemen, well educated and would never descend into a fight. Please please consider this bro. This would be awesome. Topic would be Aryan Invasion theory. At the end, I would like to see them smile and shake hands (even say agree to disagree 🙂)
Pashupati is a deity from harappa mohenjo-daro which are literally named after Mohan(Vishnu) and Har(Shiva). He says Shiva came after pashupati. How is that even possible? Ramayana and Mahabharata whiçh are 12000 and 6000 years old mention Shiva and Vishnu as deities too! He is either a fraud or completely out of his mind!
Including sai deepak . He is legend
Would be good idea, because Chavda tends to omit facts that are uncomfortable, & magnify only certain facts.
He seems to be on a certain 1 track only, rather than logically going step by step.
Upvote option needed
PLEASE READ MY UA-cam COMMUNITY POST
I HAVE DONE RESEARCH ON ANCIENT INDIA !!!
Ranveer your expression when he says India was not in contact with the rest of the world is priceless
Time stamp?
You picked the 1 thing he said that was not totally true, but how about the logical step by step outlining of the multiple origin of beliefs.
@@alani3992 all false
Bring the tantric back
@@alani3992 correct your logics First
My recommendation to the channel would be that in the end they should ask the speaker to suggest some readings/books/articles to expand more on what the podcast contains.
Saare comments section me sirf aap hi practical advice de rahe ho
Ranveer anna
Please call lawyer Sai Deepak garu.
Really waiting for his episode , he is the boss when it comes to history.
After listening to this joker, we really need Sai Deepak to refresh our mind
@@rosepainting8775
I just watched for 5-10 minutes and i didnt like his presentation . Then I felt like sai deepak should have been there.
Sai Deepak would have relished to cut him to pieces...this peaceful man.
Exactly brother ,i learned this in my primary school
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
In just 40 minutes i learnt this Beautiful facts🙌👌🙌
Slave=Dasa
We were not that trading= meanwhile Krishna coins in foreign
Sufism= Peace and love
Buddhism= missionary religion
No Mandirs in Vedic period
Aryan picnic theory is history 😆
Horses are not present= Bhimbetka caves hold my madda
Chariots are foreign= Mahabharata happened in DUKE Bike
Vedas = Qur'an Bible
Astrology is Iran's contribution🤪
Sanskrit is foreign from West
Hinduism=AIT ka gift
Hinduism philosophies= Hinduism religions
Ra is of Dravidian 🙌
wow old memories got aired again ..what a fun days were in school I used to learn this facts in my social textbook.
Thanks Ranveer Anna 👌
Ek muslim se history janoge to yhi milega 😂😂😂
😂👍
@@sharda_244 not migration it was a picnic 😂😂
Thank you for saving my time🙂
Well you know who was the 1st,2nd,3rd,4th and 5th education minister of India. So one can easily figure out the history tainted by the Jihadis and leftist historians of India. It is not a 🚀 science to figure this thing out or connecting the dots too.
Congrats Ranveer almost 1.25 hours conversation..👏👏
Seems like your meditation is helping you listening so calmly which I can't 😉
I take this learning from this podcast 😃😃
After listening to this podcast, my respect for ranveer has really increased. Please bring us a video on how to control anger without showing it
Sinauli and rakhigarhi excavations are older than aryan invasion theory. Chariot found at sinauli and dna studies show that all indians had same DNA north to south and no aryans ever invaded with horses.
Pashupati is a deity from harappa mohenjo-daro which are literally named after Mohan(Vishnu) and Har(Shiva). He says Shiva came after pashupati. How is that even possible? Ramayana and Mahabharata whiçh are 12000 and 6000 years old mention Shiva and Vishnu as deities too! He is either a fraud or completely out of his mind!
Ranveer please also call Dr. Niraj Rai to understand his findings when it comes to DNA world.
Too good
I would like to see Mohsin Raza Khan in more podcasts to present alternate opinions and perspectives.
Damn this comment section 😔........just because he has a different perspective doesn't mean he is wrong or right ..............the motive of this show is to listen to all sides of the stories..... Keep yourself open keep your mind open
It's called freedom of expression, people can give their opinion.
Aryan invention theory is nonsense DNA testing already proved that, so keep yourself open keep your mind open.
Yeah u r absolutely ryt!
Dat audience r not able to listen his perspectives!
But Der s also a reason fo this! He s preaching what is in our textbooks which has been set by the west!
How can we argue the facts?
Chariots n horses not from India
Shiva not from India
Sanskrit is not from India
I mean wat abt ashwamedha yagna, ashwinikumaras- Sona of twin horses, bhagavadgita, kurukshetra war, dasharatha??? I mean v can go on!!
Common v can't argue the facts na! N though fo a min I think dat s ryt, dude his analysis n reasoning s juztt bullshit!
He s picking on particular thing n not seeing the whole picture here! If he says Sanskrit originated from hindi hw cab one believe it's a joke dude! Common!!
True. General mindset of people are getting marginalized.
Shah from Gujarat...looks people from Iran?
Thank you to all the guys who commented ....u all saved my 1+ hour 🙏
bacha hua ek ghanta ab desh nirmaan m jaayega.. lol
Mine too
Your welcome
@@Jatin_Barwala desh nirmit hai
Please don't waste time watching. This fool Muslim lied about each and everything
Chariots have disvovered in archeology in Sinauli his theory is wrong. Besides the barbarism of sufis is present throughout history. Sita Ram Goel, Ram Swaroop, R.C. Majumdar any day.
Exactly bhaiii... Exactly!!!
Lying and distorting history...What else can u expect from a Abdul
@@Itachi_Uchia1 once a muslim always a muslim. Remember that.
This man just spit venom against hinduism in this podcast.
He is an Is -lamist, so you can't expect anything truly intellectual from these people bcos of their biased attitude towards their barbaric cult. In short, he is doing 'Intellectual Ji -had'
I’m a 70 year old white American woman and I still have an open mind because I want to always be learning something new. I don’t want the world to become “beige “ 😊 because the diversity in people and cultures is what makes our world so unique and fascinating.
Great interview and discussion!
great to see a mature person all religions teach love and compassion but people like to argue and fight because of the difference in opinion rather than practising the good values
Dude just took the legacy of peaceful community forward 🙌🏻
You stole my name bro😭😂
what does your name say?
@@akeeracy22 can't you see
@@UK04T bhai tujhe kyun takleef ho rahi hai? Aur itna hi clear dikh raha hai toh sarcasm nahi dikha mera bsdk.
@@akeeracy22 that i am a sanatani who doesn't kill people if they don't worship my God ❤️
Thank you guys for all your comments. I saved almost 1.5 hrs of my life . 🙏🏼❤️
Your surname is Das that that means you are a slave according to this man😂😂
@@Nero6570 Jihadi thought process. Might be written in Quran 🤣
@@militdas5962 Absolutely spot on.
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
@@abhirj87 So Krishna on his horses are a fraud? And B.G mention of Mahabratha War is a fraud.The skeletal remains excavated 20 metres down was found radioactive is all lies in Krusethra area of the great battle.He is a fraud of Western mindset.
This man can do serious comedy.
Bring him back
Ha ha ha absolutely
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lmao
India's smartest podcast 🤡🤡
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
As Hindus we should be open to hearing and understanding other religions and cultures. And how these cultures interpret ours … that’s what Hinduism has always been about open mindedness… I didn’t find this podcast biased in any way he only spoke facts he read . Today’s gen need patience in hearing to others as well .. about horses he’s talking about a specific century during Indus Valley civilisation I guess not periods of mahabharata or ramayana that’s my interpretation from the podcast .
No no.
We know the truth. We don't want to know anythingthat disproves that.
There is difference between facts and propaganda.. quran and hadis is full of instance where they used used to capture slaves would use them as sex slaves and then sell them to buy weapons.. Read buddy I myself have read then I am saying this.. and this guy is saying his prophet freed Jews didn't use slaves and all
Stop acting like a librandu and watch ex muslim channels then.
He mentioned that horses were still being imported even after the Mughals and Europeans came to India because horses can't breed here. If that's true, how come horses stopped breeding after the Mahabharata?
I'm open to learning about other religions as a Hindu. But I don't want to be blindly led in the name of secularism.
...even my patience is trying to get burried under Modenjodharo again, after it's manifestation by excavation!!🙄
There were no temples and still archaeologists found temples as old as 10000 years old 😅
dimag mein jb maz-hub ka nasa chada ho to insan z@hil bn jata hai
U mean in India where?? Provide evidence
@@sujal1943hindu is not dharm it is way of life only
33:50 what about the chariots found in Rakhigarhi?
Add more podcasts like this with these hypocrites calling themselves historians. And, you will loose a regular viewer. Nothing else. Carry on. 🧡
Same.
Yes he was trying to spread his propogenda but he will never be successful.
Well said
@@huzi936 Firstly, read history beyond those textbooks. Then, you will understand. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge about Bhimbetka caves & Sinauli excavation, he's not a historian. Aryan theory is proved wrong by your dear Europeans. But, this guy is only spreading propaganda. It's not about religion. It's about mentality. And, if you think that those Nehruvian historians know all about history. Then, you are wrong. Wait few decades, this old hypocrites being colonial historians will vanish with their propaganda. None will listen to them. We will correct our text books. We already have set the narrative. From history of Khilji to Babar, we will establish the history of Ahom, Chola & Suhel dev. So dear left leaning Abdul chacha, you can have peace now. ✌️ 🧡
@@huzi936 If you think that you, left leaning hypocrites are more educated than us. Then, you are wrong. You only know that much of history that your Chinese masters has put into your brain. Read Das Kapital by your uncle Max and read about all the atrocities of Stalin. Then, you will understand Communism only sound good on paper, not in real world. So, don't lecture anyone about being bhakt. It's your kind who is truly blind & live in fantasy. 🧡
The way he explained the concept of realities was the most accurate way I can ever think of for why people are so divided among religions
where pls give me time stamp
Accurate? Hahaha.. he so smoothly dodge his prophet's birth. Muhummad father was died 4 years before according to Hadis.
@@ajitabhbiswas7308 He didn't talk about Ayesha 😢
Can Sinauli burials be non-Vedic?
Some analysts are dismissing Sinauli as un related to Vedic culture or Samskṛtī because the people are buried instead of cremated. It is sure cremation is popular in Sanātana Dharma, but burials are also present in our tradition. Burials are also mentioned in Ṛgveda as one of the ways in which the dead individuals are treated, as we have already seen. Another doubt that has arisen is due to the design of the head-gears. The head-gear of some of the warriors contains horns. In the current depictions of our ancient people, the horned-headgear is associated with the Daityas and the Dānavas. It will be misleading to conclude that Sinauli is non-Vedic based on these factors alone.
The Bharatas and their ancestors were an admixture of the Ādityas, the Daityas and the Dānavas.
The ancestral king Yayāti had two wives Devayāni and Ṡarmiṣthā. Devayāni, is the daughter of Daitya Guru Ṡukrāchārya. She is the mother of Yadu and Turvaṡa, the eldest sons of Yayāti. Ṡarmiṣthā is the daughter of the Daitya king Vṛṣaparvā. She is the mother of Anu, Druhyu and Pūru, the younger sons of Yayāti.
The mother of all the Yadavas is Devayāni and the mother of Pūru, the founder of the Pūru dynasty is Ṡarmiṣthā, both Daitya women. The Bharatas descended from the Pūrus and the Kurus like the Pāndavas and Kauravas descended from the Bharatas. Kṛṣṇa, Balarāma and other Vṛṣnis descended from the Yadavas. The Dānavas like Maya were allies of the Paṇḍavas who gave them many weapons and chariots.
The chariot of Arjuna came from Varuṇa, who is revered by the Bhargava sages like the Asura Guru Sukrachārya and by the sages in the lineage of Vasiṣṭha and Agastya. Vasiṣṭha was the priest of Sri Rama. Vyasa was the descendant of Vasiṣṭha and the grandfather and guide of the Paṇḍavas.
The Ṛgveda mentions many wars and the Purāṇas render them as the wars between the Devas and the Asuras. But if we analyse the Ṛgveda closely, these wars are fought between the people who worship Indra (like the Purus and the Bharatas) and the other people who don't worship Indra (like the Anus and the Druhyus). The Purāṇas portrayed the people who do not worship Indra as the Asuras, categorizing them as Daityas and Dānavas. The word used by Ṛgveda for the non-Indra worshipers is anindra (those who are without Indra) and avrata (those who don't have any devotion to Indra). The Sinauli settlement with their burial practices and horned head-gears can as well belong to the groups affiliated to the Daitya-Dānavas like Maya Dānava.
But this doesn't make them non-Vedic, because Dānavas like Maya do have a place in our Veda, Itihasa Purāṇas.
The Analysis of the Place Names
The place Sinauli falls in the Kuru Rāṣtra, or the Kuru Janapada, the region between Ganga in the east and Sarasvati in the west and divided by Yamuna into two parts. A place named after Maya viz. Mayastali or Mayarāṣtra (Meerut, 52 km away) is close to Sinauli. The places mentioned in the Mahābhārata like the Vyāghra-prasta (Baghpat, 25 km away), Svarna-prasta (Sonipat, 29 km away), Paniprasta (35 km away), Varanavati (21 km away) are close to Sinauli. Hastinapura is 75 km to the east and Indraprasta is 55 km to the south of Sinauli. Paruṡurāma Kṣetra (now Alamgirpur, the eastern most Harappan settlement, 3300-1300 BCE) is 33 km away from Sinauli, where Paruṡurāma taught weaponry to Bhīṣma. The region around Sinauli is dotted with places resembling chariot construction such as Rathora (Rathakāra - chariot-maker, 6 km away) and Luhara (Lohakāra - metal worker, 2 km away).
The name Sinauli is likely a derived form of Sina-sthali, similar to the other place-names in Kuru Rashtra ending with the suffix 'sthali' (meaning - a place) like Bastali (Vyasa-sthali), Bamanauli (Brahmana-sthali). The place names in Kuru Rashtra, contains suffixes like Prasta, Sthali and Kṣetra. The word 'sina' means a 'store’, 'garment' 'fetter', 'bond', 'body' etc, implying that it is one of the places associated with making chariots and weapons. Probably the people who lived in this Sinauli settlement were a warrior class of men and women supplying weapons to the army of the kings.
Sinauli and the Kurukṣetra War
Whether the warriors buried in the Sinauli burials participated in the Kurukṣetra War as one among the many small military units, depends on the chosen date of the Kurukṣetra War. Sinauli excavations are dated to 2100 BCE to 1900 BCE.
One of the Kurukṣetra War dates close to it is 1793 BCE proposed by Shri Ashok Bhatnagar. If we take this Kurukṣetra War as the basis, then the Sinauli warriors were 100 to 300 years older to the Kurukṣetra War, placing them as part of the late Ṛgvedic period, during the formative periods of the 1st, 5th, 8th, 9th or the 10th Maṇḍalas, especially the 10th Maṇḍala. Several battles are mentioned in these Maṇḍalas too, like in the older Maṇḍalas. With the Kurukṣetra War date at 1793 BCE, we can date Samtanu mentioned in the 10th Maṇḍala of Ṛgveda to around 1930 BCE. Samtanu is the youngest king in the lineage of the Bharata kings mentioned in the Ṛgveda, who also appear as the ancestors of the Pāṇḍavas and the Kauravas who waged the Kurukṣetra War.
In the linage of kings leading to the Pāṇḍavas, the Ṛgveda stops at Samtanu. In the linage of sages leading to Vyāsa, the Ṛgveda stops at Parāṡara. Samtanu’s son Vicitravīrya and Parāṡara’s son Vyāsa is in the future of Ṛgveda. Dhṛtarāṣtra and Pāṇdu are the next generation of Vicitravīrya and Vyāsa. The Kauravas and the Pāṇḍavas who took place in the Kurukṣetra War are in the next generation of Dhṛtarāṣtra and Pāṇdu. Thus, this date 1793 BCE corroborates well with our analysis that the chariot and the Sinauli burial sites belong to the 10th Maṇḍala funeral hymns which speaks about the burials.
Another date of Kurukṣetra War 1952 BCE is from Shri Mohan Gupta. If we follow this date, then this settlement falls right in the Kurukṣetra War period. The 3K Kurukṣetra War dates of Shri Vedaveer Arya (3162 BCE) and Manish Pandit (3067 BCE) will make the settlement well into the future of the lifetime of the Kuru-Paṇḍavas during the lifetime of their descendants named in the Purāṇas like Viṣṇu Purāṇa. There is another date by Shri KK Ramamurthy at 1504 BCE and RN Iyengar at 1478 BCE which will make this settlement part of the middle Ṛgvedic period of Maṇḍala 2 and 4, closer to the lifetime of the sages like Gr̥tsamada and kings like Sahadeva and Somaka or even to the early period of Maṇḍala 6, 3 and 7, closer to the lifetime of the kings like Sudās and Divodāsa depending upon the variability in the chronology of the Maṇḍala wise evolution of the Ṛgveda.
too informative man 🙏🙏
Thanks for your information but can you please share some journals, research papers any archeological evidence report by any of the countries regulating body or a University…also please mention if this is a primary source or secondary mostly seems to be secondary but still asking to clear the doubt..
Listen to shrikant talageri ...He has the answer...
Dood give me your insta Id .
Love your information .
Thank you
I never knew ranveer does comedy shows... Way to go brother ❤️
Hurt ho gya kyaa 😂😂😂😂
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
@@Servant_of_1111 Professor? Who?
@Mohammad Asif no Meenakshi jain, konerad elest, srikant talegeri
😂😂 well said
33:50 Five horses of Arjun's chariot were imported ?
Sigauli sight of India have found 5000 years old chariots ignore him he is just distorting history.
@@ommmmm7 bhimbetka
superb ! loved this episode thoroughly
Pitch him against Abhijit Chawda 🤩
This man will fall face flat.
@@r.b.8018 Exactly
@@r.b.8018 Aaega hi nhi, people like them just go and say that they don't debate anyone who isn't a certified historian.
Jo bhi ho, iska propaganda to comments mein hi phoot gaya.
This man will hide his face to be saved from falling.
Abhijeet Chavda fully exposed him on Aryan Invasion Theory 🤣🤣
He spewed venom and we Indian are loving it. Mainly Hindus blinding wah Ranveer wah!
Sufisam has a history of barbarism and en mass genocide. What is wrong with u Ranveer. WTF!
Agree brother 🚩🚩🚩
Sufism ?? Heard of rumi ?? Sir l hope u read him if u wish to hv a insight upon him .. may u be liberated 😊🙏🏻 hare krishna ❤️
@@sahiltripathy3438 Rumi was a racist who supported slavery. This is a fact from his writings. He was also a Hinduphobic bigot who supported attacks against Hindu India. This too can be seen in his writings. Maybe you're the one who should educate yourself and stop mixing Sri Krishna’s Divine name with ugly Abrahamic things like Sufi and Rumi.
Whats wrong with Ranveer is that he is a pragmatic human being unlike a lot of others.....
India don't have horses,India don't have onions,potato, they say even mango is not Indian 🤣🤣🤣
Today's is a comedy show in all sense 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@kkkss157 Credit: Quran
As a student of Agriculture, Vavilov gave the concept 'centre of origin'. Potato is from Peru. Onion and Mango truly are indigenous gems of ours.
yes onions and potato were introduced in India byu Europeans
india have very little population of horses probably
Man this comment section is a shit show. Everyone's first option when they don't like his opinions is to go straight to his religion. There is no need to bring religion in any of this.
Their hearts are filled with hatred and they talk of truth. I believe they love to project their own ugliness and weakness onto others.
Why not? His religion is his first identity, not even being human is important to Muslims.
@@mileshulthats shows your immaturity lmaof
Obviously ☪️ancer stands for ☪️ancee
He is telling the story form a Muslim mindset.
I watched this just bcoz of you ranveer Bhai but trust me it was nothing less then a third degree 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha brainwash Indian it better than gobar bakht sanghis😂😂
But i didn't found any muslim angle
Am I missing something?
@@shxhidplays ya... brain
@@shxhidplays he siad sufism was sprititual when you know that sufis were most barbaric people ever😂😂
Correct you seen his hidden agenda
He said chariot were not found in India but 2 years ago we found a chariot in sinauli😄😄..also evidences of horses are found in Indus valley.
This guy just here to present his propaganda but the comments are doing their job
Arey mitr Sinauli chhodo.. Mahabharat yaad karo.. shriKrishna aur Arjun Samvad yaad kijiye!
Ox chariots.
@@alani3992 no camel chariots abdul 😜
@@alani3992 war chariots driven by ox?'😂😂😂😂...the burials of men and womens found beside the chariots were of warriors ..also the height of chariot indicates that it was driven by horses.. first do some research rather than speaking lies just to support a bogus theory😂😂😂😂the model of the chariots match with the chariots mentioned in RIGVEDA
"Never trust a person who cannot look you into the eye"
Exactly bro 🤣
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
@@Servant_of_1111 look who is talking a sh!thead NRI 🤣😂 LibranduuuuU
True😂
@@Servant_of_1111 haha
पिछले कुछ समय से विशेष ज्ञान वाले वैज्ञानिकों को सुनते आ रहे हैं जो कहते हैं पुरानी सभ्यता के कुछ निशान होते हैं । वो प्रत्यक्ष को ही प्रमाण मानते हैं । जब भी सभ्यता हो उसने कुछ अवशेष छोड़ना चाहिए ।
उनसे प्रश्न यह है की किसी भी वस्तु की आयु होती हैं या नहीं? यदि हाँ तो उसकी अवधि क्या है? उत्तर नहीं भी पता हो, पर यह स्वयं सिद्ध हैं की वह काल का ग्रास है । समय के साथ उसमें परिवर्तन होगा ।
जो परिवर्तनशील है वह यथा स्थिति में होना असंभव है ।
संभव क्या है? वह जो परिवर्तन से असंबद्ध हैं । वह है ज्ञान ।
इससे यह सिद्ध होता हैं की प्रत्यक्ष आवश्यक नहीं यदि ज्ञान हो तो। अतः उन सभी वैज्ञानिकों से अनुरोध है केवल खोदकर प्रमाण न निकालें अपितु ज्ञान पर भी ध्यान दें ।
The real history of mankind! He is a very rational person.
Lord, his speech just hurts my ears, and don't know why feel mentally disturbed by hearing this man speak, In a very subtle way, he is making sure he is building a narrative, ensuring to stamp us that the Indian heritage is borrowed by these tribal gulf cultures. India was disorganized and isolated, and somehow gulf was more organized and civilized give a break,
and after being a genuine follower of this channel never i thought I'll come across so a centric and rigid perspective, I just can't understand why it sounds so interesting to Ranveer.
“Truth is not what you want it to be; it is whet it is. And you must bend to its power or live a lie” ~ Miyamoto Musashi
Praise the supreme lord SriKrishna. Jai Sri Krishna
He was human
I wish I had patience like Ranveer 🙏
exactly
😅😂😂😂
Ranveer was impressed by him.
🤣🤣
FR
This was hard to watch. Couldn't sit straight otherwise It'd've given me pancreatic piles
@0:30 completely wrong. We do have native horses in India. Or pray tell how are their horses in Ramayan ,Mahabharat?
Exactly!
Could be possible that those horses were imported foreign land at that time.
Right. I was thinking about mahabharat and ramayan
man , i must commend ranveer for keeping a straight face throughout this whole podcast
Lol..
Why ?
That's why he was asking many follow up questions because he was paying attention to the FACTS being stated. I struggle to keep a straight face when listening to Abhijeet Chavda.
He is correct actually.. RW Nutjob
Mind blowing interview ❤. Really opened many block of the mind
During the whole podcast I was really wondering what Ranveer was thinking 😄😄
😂😂😂
Salvation
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂
Rss became shock
@@cheltooktribefreethinker1028 yes . Let's drag RSS to look cool 🙂
I loved Ranveer's reaction after he said there no horses in Vedic civilization 😂
Damn🤯🤯🤯
Listen to abhijit, we actually did not had horses
He was talking about no horses in the Indus Valley civilization (not vedic). He said the vedic people brought the horses from Central Asia
@@ckastic don't listen to anybody.....watch a documentary or read about the Sinauli excavation and you will see their lies getting exposed pretty easily.....
@@malavpandya2543 the so called 'vedic people' didn't come from central Asia
My grandfather's name was Durga Das. Like many Punjabi Pandits he was a slave to Durga 😭 sad life being a slave to a powerful female heavenly being. Thank you sir for mansplaining our religion and culture not even Brahman (God) itself could educate us so well🙏
I understand your sarcasm. but for brainwashed I have to write this to unwash them.
Wait a minute, Slave is not dasa.
Slave is the one who is forced to be a slave without freedom.
Dasa is the servent who selfwilled to serve someone like God as long as one wants, maintaining freedom.
Slavery is alien to Vedic civilization. there is no word for a forced slaved in sanskrit or in our ancient sanatan vedic civilisation. slavery is against dharma.
Aryan invasion theory is leftist fruad. Arya is not a race it is title given to ancient educated people who graduated from Vedic-buddhist universities and gurukul education systems. Arya means Nobel. for eg. Buddhism has concept of 4 Aryasatta (4 Nobel truth.). Arya = Nobel, Satta/Satya/Satt = Truth. Nobody is Arya by birth it is earned by karma/achievements/actions/siddhi and gunas/skills/talent. according to our hindu and buddhist scriptures.
that completely exposed this evil aryan-dravidian political separatism myth.
Aap ka sarcasm is top notch! 😂
Bhai sarcasm ke liye 🫡
@@Batega_toh_Katega_Hindu_108 🧡
Did you know that the word ‘Muslim’ means ‘Submission to the will of God’ essentially meaning ‘Slave to God’
Those who are open minded, not biased , logical , rational finds this podcast so interesting and valuable . For other side it may feel opposite.
He is exactly the type of historians one should avoid.
These are the people who write our history books, twisting facts such that it suits their own narrative.
I was eagerly waiting for the next podcast but pura mood ka satyanash ho gya.
Choose your guests wisely Mr Allahbadia.
Sad our school texts are written by this kind of historians.
@@sushmaarora8931 Everyone is wrong only whatsapp university is right
@@thebookist1651 chup kr chutyee
@Dear comrade I agree Madarsa History is trash they teach that Allah holds the sky but that doesn't mean we believe anything on the net and we should do our own research
He is a writer and he have specialized in fiction. He is no historian.
Jai Sanatan ❤️❤️🙏
Kaikeyi, step mom of Rama was from Iran. Infact there was a Hindu king named Dusharat who ruled Turkey. ...it is corrupted name of the original name Dusharath. It is in turkey that they found a tablet written in sanskrit about training of horses. So, Mohsins claim that India dint have horses is false. A chariot was discovered in Sanauli ...so was that carried by cows?
Also, sufis were not spiritual at all....they were the eyes of their kings( from. Islamized Iran), to keep eyes on kashmir. The intro of your guest dint appeal to me to see this episode.
My Boi spitting facts ah🕉
Kaikai*
Yeah kaikai*
It is not established that Sanauli chariot found there carried by horses. They are struggling to find that animal as they figure out that the chariot found were not ment for horses.
I’m not historian but I guess you are right
I don’t know why but I didn’t agree with some of the points so in the middle started reading out comments
His education background is
"Mr. Khan possesses a master’s in international economics and international relations from the School of Advanced International Studies, The Johns Hopkins University, with a specialization in South Asia. He also has an MA in Global Political Economy from the University of Hull where he was a British Chevening Scholar. His undergraduate degree is in economics from the University of Delhi."
Whatever he is saying is definitely only his self delusional deductions. No linguistic or historian or archaeologist background but he is so confident about his deductions.
What about the background of Chawda & co. 😂
@@nonameno5660chavda is whatsapp university graduate 😂
Horses are orignally not from india 🐸
Mahabharat ke Ratho(chariots) me to bakriyaa lagi thi !! Hai n !? 🌝😂
😂
Are UP mein rath ke saath horse remain mil bhi chuke hain.
😆😆😆..Yes and he forgot bhimbetka caves
Mahabhart had no archaeological evidence it's a books which has been changed time to time
@@abhishekkumaranshu2818 tumhara evidance hai ....!!?🗿🌝
Respect for Abhijeet sir increased
Hahahha! Exactly!
Abhijit chavda sanghis gobar bakht 😂😂😂
@@shahanarif4295 Andh Namaazi spotted ....beta ro mat Desert Cult se pehle hi bohot achhe ,khushhal civilization they
@@theeht3264 HE is converted though 😁😁
@@shahanarif4295 atleast he has evidence
Dasa = slave 😂 seriously ? King like sudas and divodas of rigveda must be slave and ruling the Arya clan 😂😂
Horse not native to India ? ( Shivalik horse 😂? , Bhimbetka 10,000bce carving of horses )
4:20 ohh we certainly know sir, it came to destroy "bootparastha" People who did murti puja!!
Most intellectual Guest on TRS
Comedy for the first time...very much needed break from serious and deep episodes...Now it's time to bring J Sai Deepak ji to bring seriousness and factual reasoning to all that was spoken here...
How close it(Sunauli excavated Chariots) is to the chariots of Kurukṣetra War, in general?
Spokes are mentioned in the Kurukṣetra War chariots. But if we interpret the spokes as the copper triangles like the ones seen in the Sinauli chariot, that poses no problems in the identification.
The excavated Sinauli chariot is missing the umbrella and the pole to keep the banner of the warrior. The colour of umbrella, the colour of the banner (flag) and the sign printed in the banner are vividly described in Mahābhārata for each warrior. Warrior Arjuna had an ape symbol in his banner. Warrior Drona had the pot symbol and so on.
It is possible that these parts are lost in these excavated chariots. The banner can be affixed atop the pole situated towards the front portion of the chariot box. May be the umbrella too is affixed on top this same pole, with the flag-post and the flag affixed atop the umbrella. The umbrella is made of silk or other type of cloths. Since these are not made of durable material, it can disintegrate and get lost easily in 4000+ years.
But a better explanation is that these chariots are a slightly older version, and prepared for the burial rituals as a sub category of the Soma carts corresponding to the 10th Maṇḍala burial related hymns.
A possible Ṛgvedic Connection
The Ṛgvedic hymn 15 in the 10th Maṇḍala speaks about both burying the dead (anagni-dagdha) and cremating them (agni-dagdha). The hymn 18 of the 10th Maṇḍala talks about a burial house (gṛha) often compared to a womb (yoni) where ghee (clarified butter) is kept in pots. This matches with the 116 burial houses unearthed at Sinauli. They contain many earthen pots which could have been used to fill offerings like ghee, butter and medicines. The Ṛgvedic hymn 18 of the 10th Maṇḍala mentions about taking the bow from the hand of the dead. The bow of the warrior taken from his hand is placed beside the dead-body of the warriors in Sinauli. Along with the bow, other weapons of the warrior like the shields and swords are kept. Their chariots too are kept in the burial house.
A pair of chariots are seen in one of the Sinauli burial house possibly belonging to a king or a chief. This is close to the descriptions of the pair of Soma Carts mentioned in the Ṛgveda (Hymn 13 of the 10th Maṇḍala). One of them represents mortality (Yamayāna) and another immortality (Devayāna). The pair, Yama and Yami, are the overseers of death since Yama, the son of Vivasvat, chose mortality instead of immortality and hence is the first mortal. The hymn compares the deceased with Yama and Yami pair and urges them to choose mortality instead of immortality for the sake of the devatas and for the sake of their offspring. The hymn talks about the five steps (pañca padāni) to climb the mount (rupa) and to ascend the four-legged bed (Catuṣpadī) as per the ritual injunctions. These four-legged death beds or coffins, where the dead body is placed are found in the Sinauli burials. The mount mentioned in the verse may be referring to the burial mounts.
The Ṛgveda 10th Maṇḍala hymn 15 also talks about ritual offerings of Soma, butter and ghee (clarified butter) to the forefathers inside the burial house. The ritual pots found inside the Sinauli burials indicate offerings made to these forefathers. Thus, the Sinauli burial sites resemble very closely with the descriptions of the funeral hymns in the 10th Maṇḍala of Ṛgveda.
Some individuals are mentioned in the Ṛgveda Anukramaṇi (as authors of hymns) with the suffix Yāmāyana indicating that they are deceased with some significant death ceremonies given for them. Śaṅkha Yāmāyana (RV 10.15), Damana Yāmāyana (RV 10.16), Devaśravas Yāmāyana (RV 10.17), Saṃkusuka Yāmāyana (RV 10.18), Mathita Yāmāyana (RV 10.19), Kumāra Yāmāyana (RV 10.135) and Ūrdhvakr̥śana Yāmāyana (RV 10.144). The name of the king or chief who is buried with the two chariots in the Sinauli burial site, could be any of these names. Kumāra and Ūrdhvakr̥śana are not directly related to the funeral though related to death. Devaśravas is an ancient king ancestral to Divodāsa and ancient than the oldest Maṇḍalas like 3, 7 and 6 and hence can be excluded. Mathita too can be excluded as the narrative is not close to funerals but to cows. Damana is cremated instead of buried as the corresponding hymn (RV 10.16) urges the fire (Agni) to be gentle with his body as it burns. The hymn of Śaṅkha too leans towards cremation.
Saṃkusuka is surely buried as indicated by the corresponding hymn (RV 10.18). Hence this burial with two chariots could as well be that of Saṃkusuka. The hymn urges the earth to be gentle, be soft as wool, to his body as he is buried.
उप सर्प मातरम् भूमिम् एताम् उरुव्यचसम् पृथिवीं सुशेवाम् |
ऊर्णम्रदा युवतिर् दक्षिणावत एषा त्वा पातु निरृतेर् उपस्थात् ||
Waiting for Vikram Sampath & J Sai Deepak 🙏
Exactly, vikram Sampath
And jsd as well
Yes
But I doubt he will bring them
He is too afraid of getting called as a RW, that's why he is balancing out by calling props like these
Jsd
Kudos to have the logical perspective of religions ..❤
What else I can expect from a peaceful mind.
U think he is muslim just because of his name?? 😂😂 he doesnt even believe in islamic teachings.. he is talking about history. Ppl are so dumb here in this comment section.
Only peaceful mind can tell you the truth if you can digest it. 😊
After reading the comments I think Abhijit chavda will get a lot of Questions. I don't think that this person can stand against Abhijit sir.
I would be convinced with Dr. Chavda's arguments if he showed real research based evidences in his podcasts.
Ranveer please bring this comedian back again, he is funny guy
U must be son of human and bull
Why don't you just listen to the speaker and keep your own opinion rather than trashing the speaker?
because somethings which may be valid sound harsh you just make a joke of the speaker, instead try yourself to counter them with your theory.
@@bolokesari does he says truth??
Before ranting bs
Just align urself with truth
If u don't know any facts or evidences
Shut ur cooking mouth
@@bolokesari he is a propagandist...and propagandists have no opinion but propaganda😏😏
Bring this guy again ranveer I want to learn how Hinduism was created by sewing in different gods together with a umbrella story.
Horses were always part of India because we had Adhvamedha Yagna
That's what he meant - he knows horses were part of our history. He is insinuating that the whole Vedic history is a bunch of crap.
@@purpleshine6832 He is a fool
Das=Servant
not slave..India never had any slave history even Western historians agree to it I don't know from where he got the translation of das to slave😂..there are people with Das surname that does not mean they are slave for example Gaurnaga Das means...Das(Servant) Of Gauranga(Another name of Chaintaya Mahaprabhu).
Exactly, thank god we people don't fall for these people's propoganda anymore and know the reality.
Yes 🤣
Perfect
Even in rigveda itself greatest king of rigveda is raja sudas ,his father divodas
Wait a minute, Slave is not dasa.
Slave is the one who is forced to be a slave without freedom.
Dasa is the servent who selfwilled to serve someone like God as long as one wants, maintaining freedom.
Slavery is alien to Vedic civilization. there is no word for a forced slaved in sanskrit or in our ancient sanatan vedic civilisation. slavery is against dharma.
Aryan invasion theory is leftist fruad. Arya is not a race it is title given to ancient educated people who graduated from Vedic-buddhist universities and gurukul education systems. Arya means Nobel. for eg. Buddhism has concept of 4 Aryasatta (4 Nobel truth.). Arya = Nobel, Satta/Satya/Satt = Truth. Nobody is Arya by birth it is earned by karma/achievements/actions/siddhi and gunas/skills/talent. accoding to our hindu and buddhist scriptures.
that completely exposed this evil aryan-dravidian political separatism myth.
After seen title of the podcast, I thought my knowledge get improved on religion. But just after listing for few menutes I gave up, he had come up with same old agenda. Hats off to u ranveer for ur patience.
People commenting against this professor are scholars living on their parents internet! Lol 😂🤣😂🤣
@@Servant_of_1111spamer spotted
HAR HAR MAHADEV
Thankyou be blessed
I think you guys need to study and learn this new Archeological site in Sinauli, Uttar Pradesh to find out chariots and horses in Indian Civilization which dates back to pre invasion era
They could be Aryan.
@@alani3992 stop spamming abdul.....in every comments...we know you're btthurt by the fact that indian civilization exists before Izlam
@@theeht3264 Stop spamming. Don't believe in green or saffron or any cults.
@@alani3992 saffron is not a cult abdul 😜
@@Sharani262 You are neither spiritual nor scientific. Free thinking is not for you.
Isse achaa "Patli kamariya mori haaye haaye haaye..." dekh leta mai 🌝🌝
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Exactly bhaiiii 😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly, this is first podcast of ranveer's which i disliked.
I can’t stop laughing looking at ranveers face😂😂😂… Kudos to you for being so patient.
Btw why did you make him an all star bro. Make a debate session with him and AC sir. Please bro❤🎉
😂 dude will be trashed 😂
I was planning to watch this video and then I looked at the comments. Thanks everyone , you saved me 1.5 hours.
Real history: Am I joking to you !! 😁🤲🏻🥲😂
😆😆😆🅱️ulla 🤡
@@riteshprakash195 Naam hai bulla
Rakhta hu khulla 🥲🌝🌝
🤭😛😂😂🤣
@@riteshprakash195 mulla mc hai ye ranveer bosdiwala
@@abhineetmishra6596 😂🤣🤣
Mast comedy show tha 1.5 gante ka 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Judaism Part Was Absolute Gem! Invite Him Again, Would Love To Hear More From Him!
Nhi bulayega look at ranveers xutiya chavda audience .
He lied about everything on the show. It's amazing how people lie with so much confidence
@@WorkWizdom lied about everything 💀
@@izzyy5892 - yeah everything
@@whydontyoustfuhaan bhai tum bohot enlightened ho 👍
Chalo humne MADARASHA se paddhe logo ka history ka knowledge jan liya.
THANKS RANVEER BHAIYA
😂😂
Such a brilliant podcast. I came across it right when I was exploring the subject myself.
In awe of Mohsin Khan and the ease with which he briefly laid out a map of history of religions. Hoping to hear you on many more related subjects Sir.
Some one has termed this man a great comedian. Very accurate.Half knowledge is bad ,biased half knowledge is dangerous. I hope BeerBiceps may avoid this hman.
You are absolutely right. Being a Muslim he lied to propagate his religion.
Please provide your scientific research evidence, not dot connecting assumption to prove your own bias!! Only demonstrable proofs can be granted! Otherwise, we can speculate anything and laugh at anything and it will never stop.
Need Abhijit Chavda to debate with this man, Mohsin seems to have a rigid mindset towards the Aryan Invasion Theory.
Abhijit has unparalleled wisdom.
I heard about this stooge for the first time in my life.
Abhijit Chavda and this guy in the same screen would be an insult to Abhijit.
Das = Servant (Not at all slave bro)
First 10 minutes are enough to know that the episode is not worth it.
Thanks for the stand up comedy 😌❤️ (please don't bring him back to ruine our one more hour)
Sorry the facts dont align with what you want to hear about your country😂
I don't know the authenticity of all the facts he is talking about, but the amount of facts and information he has shared is just amazing. We got to learn so much.
I don't feel that it is correct to criticize someone because of the fact that what we believe is only correct.
Please be open to others views as well..
authenticity of facts is in question and you're praising him for facts.
bhai facts are based on truth ... how confused are you ?
We need to go with the proof and truth ...not this half knowledge....his focus was just an ego game want supremeacy but in a clean decent way....to make people believe him presenting certain crafted things
@@akshaymalhotra2550 you know this how.
34:09 this damn feels more sarcastic than surprised 😂😂
Ranveer be like: haa ham to c*** hai🙃😂
It was so good never saw him like this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 my god rofl
According to our so called historian shiva is not a vedic god 45:15 🤡
Man's name justifies his knowledge about our dharma😂
Well technically he is a pre-Vedic god. So even more ancient and significant than this guy thinks
The Rigveda used the word Shiva as an epithet of multiple gods you dimwit.....why aren't you idiots understanding the history of Sanathan Dharma before blabbering?
During Whole podcast i was like ye pitega ab😅
He's right!
Vedas has no mention of Shiva and Shiva is considered pre - Vedic God and a god of IVC.
The closest mention to Shiva is Rudra that too in Rig
Veda. But going forward Shiva was assimilated into Sanatan.
After watching this podcast .... I immediately downloaded LEVEL app 😭🤣
😂
You're made for reddit.
Thank you guys for saving my valuable time...
the line he said of vishnu as dwarf divine being ... ye to mentioned hai .... one of the avatars of LORD VISHNU ❤️🙏
vaman avtar, i guess..
@@Parth_20 mera exact naam nikal gya mind se .... Bt it kinda hurts bro ... Log baat halka chupa chupake defame krte h .... Sanatan dharm ko
@@sagarsingh-kt6jt this man has some(little)knowledge, so us knowledge k basis par he is trying to bend facts and truth according to his propaganda.
@@Parth_20 well said brother .... Laga. Bhi tha that he was trying to propagate something ...
But dude there s also a lott of other history behind this! He can't cover many more evidence by showing a particular evidence! He has to look at the whole history!
Before vamana, Der was Matsya, varaha, narasimha, kurma avataras!
In every sentence he s giving a particular evidence n saying this s the whole thing! How come?
Sanskrit is not from India like seriously?? His argument was like hindi sounds soo much like sanskrit so sanskrit emerged frm hindi?? Does it make sense???
This guy s not able to see the whole thing!
You are doing great podcasts Ranveer, hats off to your efforts , but don't get swayed away by words whitewashing the so called peaceful religion, read the texts with context. Don't believe in heresay and takaiya.
Please due thorough due dilligence in this specific matter as this it is not about rising Hindu muslim tensions but it is about being aware on what a particular community is hiding and why they are doing so.
I am in no position to tell you about doing research you know better than anyone I suppose knows.
Take care, All the best. Keep doing the good work.
What is the particular community hiding? You know what is hidden?
@@ta3ngo Yes, Find out sooner than later I would urge.
No you tell me. I don't have time to find out
@@ta3ngo If you have time to comment , you can do same actual research as well.
So basically it means you are bluffing and talking out of your ass. Why so much drama if you have uncovered the hidden truth, educate the world
Fabulous episode. Please make 2 more episodes with same guy.
1. Pegan Religion.
2. Connection between Zoroastronism and Hinduism (or Indo-Greek civilization.)
I was initially a more narrow minded person, but after I started consuming World History, I have watched change in my thinking. And I have realised that History is the most important subject that decides one's mindset. So I guess the more the people know and are educated by the World History, they are lesser the narrow minded, which eventually leads to harmony among different sects, cultured, group and religion of people.