I love your channel. I only really watch you and tacticalBassin. John Danial, you should watch them too. I don’t care if you were fishing your whole life like I have or today’s your first day both these channel should be watched all the time.
I heard the bass pro excel floro is awesome for the price. Not king but better than average. Small diameter good castibility pretty abrasion reststemt.
We appreciate the videos. You're instructional videos are second to none on UA-cam brutha! From the map breakdowns, to the electronics, to the fish movement and instinct..
Man are we glad we found your channel. You the only one out there that makes us feel we can still fish without 14 rod and reel combinations with the same number of line type combos. When we last fished years ago there was only mono and we enjoyed fishing. Now we we get the idea we can’t fish unless we use floro or braid. I just don’t have that many rods! 😛
AMEN!!! I've been a die-hard bass fisherman ( and a lot of inshore fishing too ) here in central Florida since 1969. And I fish for bass today more than ever before. I mainly fish our famous Stick Marsh/Farm 13, and I have the pics & digital images to prove I've got four 12 lb'ers, thirteen 10's, seven 9's, and I literally lost count on all the 7 & 8's I've caught over the years. I was really heavy into braid, and then fluoro for quite some time. But after about 5 years, I noticed I was breaking off FAR too often using fluoro, even when setting the hook on small bass. Many youtubers are breaking off all too often on tiny bass too. It's always due to their "love of fluorocarbon". I was always making sure I re-tied fresh knots. Ya lose nearly 50% of the tested line strength at the knot with fluoro, right off the bat. I was using the best fluoro out there such as P-Line & Seaguar too. I eventually got so sick & tired of losing fish AND lures, that I swore off using fluoro ever again, and switched 100% back to Berkley Trilene Big Game mono in ALL different sizes from 12 lb to 25 lb test. Over 95% of my "line breakage issues" disappeared like a fart in the wind. Fluoro is only good for fishing deep, clear water. But even then, ya better be re-spooling often, even if ya fish half as often as I do. Fluoro is a member of the GLASS family, and it quickly develops tiny FRACTURES throughout the entire length of line off the spool to your lure or hook. Strong hook-sets, powerful or heavy fish, and trying to un-snag a lure from a tree or root immediately causes all those tiny fractures. That entire length of line off the spool is now RUINED......but the angler doesn't realize it yet. Then he loses a tiny fish on the hook-set due to breaking off, and assumes "there must've been a nick in the line somewhere"......Good mono holds up to shock & abrasion like a bulldog, and lasts a very long time too. I use TEN different rod & reel set-ups almost every time on the water. I will use at least 5 or more of them on any particular day. That gets VERY expensive if even a few are spooled with fluoro. The money I save on mono enables me to buy more lures too.
Big Game has never let me down! It may have some memory but it's worth it. I've caught numerous bass over 7 lbs on the 8 lb test! And the 12 lb test seems to be closer to 14-15 in strength. Good price point also.
@@lavernepeace3646 while I can't say I've caught more than just one 8lber I can say I have drug my line through enough gnarly stuff and rip rap to know big game does not fray easily. And I don't seem to have much memory issues but maybe it's because I hose it down with reel magic right after I reline and then periodically after that.
@@lavernepeace3646 Due to all the stumps, laydowns, eel grass & hydrilla all mixed together in shallow water, with the chance of a really big bass taking your lure at any time here on the Stick Marsh/Farm 13, I'm forced to used 17, 20, and 25 lb test Big Game mono. But I do get to use 12 lb for my hard jerk baits and any topwaters that aren't weedless. But even then, I gotta keep the fish up high to try & keep em from diving into that mess below.
@@howabouthetruth2157 It's good stuff I have used 17-20 for Sheepshead and the 25 for flipp'n. Do you remember the Stren Extra Strength mono? They stopped making it years ago......That was some good line also.
Trilene Big Game shines in the water and in my opinion doesn't work very well for bass fishing, though it's excellent for other species such as catfish for example.. For years I have been using Berkeley Vanish and Fluoroshield copolymer, and they definitely work. But when I was a beginner, a long, long time ago, we only had monofilament lines. I still use Maxima chameleon. Oh yes and another tip for those who don't know. If your budget is limited or whatever, you can get by with only two rods. One rigged with lighter mono/copolymer for topwater and shallow fishing with weightless plastics, and one with a good braid backing, to which you can attach a leader of fluorocarbon or heavier copolymer/mono (or just attach the lure straight to the braid when fishing discolored water with a big spinnerbait for example). Hope this helps out!
Lol...You definitely have the experience, Jonny...Your gear breakdowns are great and inform beginners and more experienced anglers alike. Keep doing them!
I use each line for certain situations. Floro for making lures dive deeper/bottom, braid for punching or frogs, mono for topwater. I dont fully believe in the invisible claim. Just last week I caught all my bass on straight yellow braid in 10+feet water clarity.
That’s really interesting! I wonder how much of it is mental and how much line actually affects the number of bites you get. Hard to test, so we may never know!
@@FishtheMoment easy to test. 2 guys fishing same baits but on different lines. Each time a bass is caught switch rods to take the anglers abilities out of the equation to give each line a fair shot.
Lots of good CoPolys out there. Suffix, Pliine, Izorline. Flouro does stretch and it DOES NOT recover on a hard stretch. For most new anglers coPoly and Braid will be fine
This is the best video so far I found in UA-cam for beginner. Fantastic video. Thank you. It will save me a lot of money if I found this video from the beginning.
Wow, really good. I grew up trout and smallmouth fishing very small streams and we always used 6lb mono. Then I started bass fishing and lost several so I jumped right to braid. This was great to understand when to use what, and why.
the truth is companies spread false lies to get people to buy more expensive stuff. mono works just fine. people are just ignorant and buy crap based on what they see on TV and what they read in fishing mags.
Good info. I mostly fish tidal water so not a lot of visibility. I can fish straight braid but I usually prefer braid to fluoro leader because I get better sink and braid tends to cut into wood IMO. Fluoro just slides across any pilings or lay downs without digging in.
Fish the Moment I use the Shin Fukae knot. See this link for a demonstration ua-cam.com/video/KGp4zpCzizA/v-deo.html It is the best, most consistently reliable knot I have found to connect leader to braid. I usually have line failures before knot failures. A big plus is that I don't have issue with the knot going through rod guides on either baitcasters or spinning rods.
love strenand Berkley. big game 12 pound. I pulled in a 33 inch stripe 19 lbs took runs then jumped good fight. Thanks big game. 12 pound big game and ugly stick gx2 all a man needs
Excellent information thank you. I gave up on fishing flourocarbon main line on my spinning reels long ago and switched to using a flourocarbon leader on either mono or braid depending on the situation(I do a lot of ultralight fishing for wild trout and river smallies). I do like using flourocarbon main line on most of my bfs reels. Most people use braid for bfs but I like the slickness and the stiffness of flourocarbon on my bfs reels. Braided line is awesome for heavy duty freshwater applications like large mouth in heavy cover and our local mountain lake pike. The stretch in mono with a flourocarbon leader has helped me to not rip the hook from a trout's or a crappie's soft mouth.
This is a great video.....but also shows how that line is so subjective. I'm braid to mono on most baitcasters, braid to floro on spinning, Floro on cranks and mono on topwater and jerkbaits. Use what works for you!!
impresive detail and specifics. 202 was the year i applied myself to learn to fish and i started with bass. i will study this video again a few times to compare with my short experiences. thank you.
Let me introduce myself and tell you a little about myself. I have tournament fished at all levels for over 40 years and have qualified for the BASS Masters Classic twice and turned down the invitation to fish on the Elites. I have watched several of your videos and there all on target and top notch. The reason that I wanted you to know that I have some credentials is that I fish Mono about 75% of the time. You don't have to justify or make excuses for fishing Mono, it is the best choice a lot of the time! I am a shallow water, reaction bite, junk type fisherman for the most part and fish seeing my line isn't a big consideration. 90% of the time with braid I tie direct the rest of the time it's braid to floro, drop shot for those silly brown bass that you have to fish for sometimes in the NE.
I think you did a great job of explaining the concepts between different types of line. I agree that anglers starting out would save money and confusion by just using monofilament line. Line diameter is seldom explained. I think a video on how line diameter affects lure performance would be a great subject to explain in a future video.
I’m late to the party here, but just watched this. I went back to mono too after trying flouro & braid. Less line management issues and knot issues. I grew up fishing mono in Florida, it could be I’m just more comfortable with it. I tie a knot w/mono and feel confident it will hold. I also like the stretch factor. 🎣
Also I would recommend using mono as a backing on your reels you are spooling braid or fluoro on. Just judge the main line size you are using in relation to how much back you need. I always put mono backing and spool the mainline so that it is more than what I typically can cast (maybe 10 yards more). That'll save a lot of money versus filling an entire reel with braid or fluoro that will never see the water
I have been using silver thread for the past 2 years. It is the best co polymer for the money. Buy bulk, buy online. This channel has already made me a better crappie fisherman.
My first thought was "what can this kid teach me?" My second thought was, "Hmmm... Maybe I don't know everything!" That being said, I've caught a lot of big bass. Including a 14.5 pounder. ALL on mono & 5'6" med action rods. I'll stick to what works for me! Great vid!
When I was “new” to baitcasters. I recommend practicing and getting more comfortable on monofilament. Its cheap and easy to replace. I caught a couple of big bass on texas rigs on 17lb trilene big game mono. After you get “comfortable” dump it.
If you want to keep fishing line costs down use braid to leader and you won't have to keep respooling expensive flouro. you just change out your leader line every few trips. it has every advantage over mono or flouro. you feel everything, get better hooksets, all at a super low cost. I can't remember the last time I had to buy line. glad he covered this point. most people that make videos only talk about flouro or straight braid. so many people worry about the connection knot breaking(when i first started using this system i had failures, it worried me but after a while i mastered the knot i use and haven't had failure since then)or the knot going through the line guide but it literally doesn't affect the knot at all and if you aren't using those tiny micro guides the knot will cast just as well as a straight line. i have several rods with semi micro guides(lews tp1, new daiwa tatula rod) and 50lb braid to 20lb red label goes through without a problem(9 loop blood knot, check out tacticalbassin's knot video). if you're running daiwa t wing setups this won't work tho. it sucks considering the whole idea is that line will go through easier and it's a huge opening but for some reason tiny circles are better than that marketing tool(it doesn't get you any distance lol). TL;DR braid to leader is the best system to use(if you look at all the benefits it is a fact)and it's dirt cheap.
Yup.. I go straight flor. On my baitcasters too. Learned that some time back after testing it out myself. Those knots just don't hold up for some reason. My main braid now is suffix 65pd. And Berkley 20 pd. Flor. Totally agree with your set up.
James Hall fishing I agree, I don't like leaders sure they are fine for fly fishing, but when jacking bass they eventually fail at least for me, usually at the worst time as well.
I recently switched back to using mostly monofilament again after not getting as many bites on spider wire. I think it was a visibility thing, only spider wire bites i got were in heavy lily pad cover. Thanks for explaining fluro applications :)
Trilene Big Game works fine for me where I fish. I’ve been catching bass for over 50 years on mono. I tried braid & fluorocarbon and had line & knot issues.
Great info. I’m from Florida and travel a lot now that I retired, so I’m having I rethink rig strategy. Used mono most for of my life as I’m cheap and worked for a living! A few years ago I joined a local bass club and eventually went to braid. I’ve used my regular setup in NY ponds with chatterbaits and worms (Texas, wacky, nail tail) with decent success. I now in AZ and rethinking my strategy since I’ll be going for stocker trout and anything else that swims in the lakes I have access to. My baitcaster and regular spinner will keep braid (I do 15 pound at this time) and start tying on flouro leader. My latest ultralight current has Stren mono - it’s a candidate for flouro. Love your content - Les face it, tourney pros are sponsored and rarely pay for line!
VERY INFORMATIVE! Thank You! A quick tutorial concerning the abrasive resistance qualities in these different lines (especially fluorocarbon) would've been much appreciative. Great video, though.
Great video! As most of us are non pro anglers the only info we really receive is from Pros on TV, magazines, etc.... these guys get paid by product plugging you see it all the time. Their job is Fishing and sales. They always use the "new greatest thing" on the shows simply to sell the product.
Thanks for the info brother, this sport is getting pretty expensive so all these tips can help save some money but still be using the best line for each situation.
Just my .02¢ here, you can always adjust the spool drag to accommodate for the fish surging at the boat and keep from bending hooks or pulling out at the boat. Hold spool with finger when setting hook then deal with a little slip all the way to the boat.
I use straight braid for 99% of applications. Sometimes with a fluorocarbon leader, but usually not, since I'm usually fishing heavily stained water, and I'm not terribly worried about line visibility spooking fish. The one time I might really want a fluoro leader is when I'm trying to fish really deep (which is rare for me, TBH) to take advantage of the point that fluoro sinks. But lately I've been experimenting with the Berkley Firewire Crystal, which is a *fused* (as opposed to *braided*) super-line. If you believe the hype, it's nearly invisible in the water, just like fluoro, but it still has the strength/diameter ratio close to braid. So far I'm pretty impressed with this stuff and it may become my new standard for most situations. I don't really advocate running straight fluoro, at least not on spinning reels. I've always found the stuff to be too stiff with too much memory, and prone to tangling and getting fouled up.
New Subscriber here. You talk a lot of sense, so thank you 👍. ( just come back to fishing after many years, braid/ fluorocarbon wasn't an option). At the end of the day it all about trial and error, and what works for the individual. Take care and stay safe 🙏. 🏴🏴
This makes more sense. When you're talking bass fishing with a spinning or bait casting reel you've got any situation covered with no chance of reaching the backing/main line knot.
Nice job! I think you did a great job explaining what the difference is in the three lines. As all three have there places that they shine. I almost only fish fluorocarbon and braid because that’s what I have on my rods. I will say if I can get away with fishing braided and catch fish I will always use it the stuff is absolutely tough and seems to almost last forever.
Nice to see a fellow Arkansan on the tube, good video. Can't bite on the Big Game though, fluoro or braid only here, unless it's a short leader for topwater hard baits.
And always if you can do it buy in bulk spool. Nothing more frustrating and in my opinion a waste of money is when you can down on one of the small spools and it's not enough for a fill. That loss is multiplied everytime that happens not to mention you get a better price buying a bulk spool. Mono man myself (suffix bulk spool) and I have nothing against the other lines, but for my application (spinnerbaits primarily stained water) it's what I prefer. Excellent video !!!
Great video. Personally, I have found that braided line is awful when it comes to abrasion resistance - especially around dock cables and rocks. Thanks!
How did you get your own boat so young? I cant even afford a kayak. I'm a life long bass fisherman and did it all, but i got into saltwater this year just wet wading. Man its such a new challenge i love it. My main issue is the main 2 rods and reels i use were stolen, so i bought a couple more(im no newb and they weren't cheap) and they were jacked AGAIN! I have at least 10 unusable, expensive rods that are either broke off a 1/4 of the way down the rod or the eyelid inserts are gone and just cut your braid instantly. After you watch vids like this for 20 min, it just builds your confidence. All that hard work tying a double uni knot, studying the ends and outs of every minute detail....and then you rig up and you're ready with all this confidence. You take that first cast and there goes your broke off rig due to one eyelid insert missing. All that hard work haha. Having decent/ right equipment is a must when it comes to wading saltwater. Man all i want to do is fish and i literally can't right now bc i have to pay for more important things than rods and reels. The struggle is real with wading saltwater. Nothing like bass fishing. It's scary af but exciting at the same time. Your vids have come a long ways man, i wish i could do the same. Appreciate you sharing all this info.
If you go to a Tackle Shop they may have a suggestion as to who you could take the rods that have bad guides to for replacements. Yep, the struggle is real! Saltwater fishing is great but sure is tough on equipment. Be well.
I have all my baitcasters except my punching/flipping reels spooled with braid then 100’ of floro or mono. A lot cheaper keeping fresh line on your reels that way. Great vid Jonny !!
For me 80% of the time, I use braid to a 19"-24"mono leader. Still use mono for a lot of applications. Monofilament is definitely underrated. Get a quality mono, like ones mentioned above in the video, if you're using say $1.89 zebco mono and are complaining about memory issues, should get something a little more quality. nothing wrong with a new engler being budget-friendly or a seasoned angler being budget-friendly but your line is something you can control unlike weather or other like conditions. honestly the only time I even use fluorocarbon anymore is cranking. Maybe on some extremely clear water finesse days. But other than that I'm usually running braids to a monofilament leader or straight monofilament.
Really enjoying the knowledge your sharing on this channel,very informative👍 I'm kind of over the whole FC line thing after experiencing knot issues, especially with the cheaper lines. Last season I tried the co-polymer Trilene Sensation with excellent results, in a gin-clear gravel quarry, and when conditions exist- Crystal clear Smallmouth river. This year I'm going to experiment with Maxima mono, as I've always wanted to try it. Also wanted to share that of the various knots i tried for FC I had the most success with the Shaw Grigsby knot (leader to bait knot).
Never had a problem with Berkley mono but I'd say the best I've ever seen was close between the very 1st spidar wire or the old school rapala mono they made back 25 years ago.
Braid to fluoro on all my baitcaster vertical presentations, except punching - straight braid; fluoro on all my horizontal baits, except some topwaters - some braid to mono, some straight mono, and some straight braid, and swimjigs with braid in heavier cover; braid to fluoro on all my spinning presentations, except in the rare case I spybait ~ I can count on one hand how many times I've broken my braid to fluoro knot in the past 5 years (just don't lock your drag down) - Crazy Alberto Knot
Use MAXIMA Ultra-Green mono if you hate losing baits!!! I use 8lb and Easily flip 4lber any day The cons is that it takes a lot of casting for the line to soften up and working or else (don’t recommend for casting setup if you are a beginner)
I don't use mono much anymore except as a leader in some scenarios. a great deal of my fishing happens from a kayak so its mostly about the stretch. I have problems with my hooklets in the kayak when using straight mono. its possible, you just have to swing for the fences. I throw topwater treble hook baits on braid with 2-3 ft of braid and soften my rod tip just a touch. I throw most of my moving baits on braid, braid with a leader, or straight flourocarbon. just something to add for the kayak anglers out there from my personal experience. just the kayak moving more absorbs more of the impact, and it reduces stretch for better hookups when using braid or fluoro
Right on. I don't fish for bass, but I found the video interesting. I used Maxima mono much of my life, and I switched to Trilene simply because it's made here, and I have to say that it works just as well as Maxima if not better for less money.
I use 1/2 braid and the remainder flurocarbon using the double uni and when tied correctly it will never fail, I've never had it fail, but I'm not a professional fisherman, but I catch a lot of tough fish (fresh water) , never a knot failure, ever.
I've never had problem catching bass with Trilene 6 through 10 pnd test and love the cast ability. I enjoy fighting the fish. Fish in heavy cover, I use my Ambassador 5000 C with 20 pnd braid , 20 pnd mono leader or wire leader, while fishing waters that may have pike. I really like that 17 pnd Cajun line fishing for big catfish it seems to handle up to 60 pound yellow cats. I tried some fluorocarbon on walleyes, but caught just as many on Trllene, so I figured why blow the extra money on what I considered over priced line. What I'm looking for is some 2 pound mono for perch fishing, to toss those 1/16 jigs on my mini spin, It's been hard to find, I've got to try the bass pro shop, see if they have it. I have fished a couple of Bass Tournaments, I caught fish, but I did not care for the pace. I like to relax and for the really big ones, I usually sneak up on them and with all the boats flying around, it's hard to sneak up on them. I call it speed fishing with drama.
I use braid backing with fluoro but I spool about 70 yards. This will allow for me to never cast to knot so I won't put pressure on the knot. Also after a while i reverse spool my fluoro to another reel and that's even longer use. Never broken off and I have even gone 6 months on same flouro when I reverse spool to another reel setup. Good stuff though. I'm a big fan of segaur bc diameter is smaller and same strength as others.
Agree with all your video - I have to laugh at all the mono haters though / been fishing since the 70s .. it all we ever had next 30 years .. still caught just as many fish .. floro and braid do have their place - but don’t over think it young anglers - mono was king for decades
Mono is more abrasion resistant than floro which is more brittle and less tolerant to any impact against rocks and bottom structure. There is now proof mono is prefered over floro because of this.
I used big game for many years and still do in some things ,I have found that fluorocarbon is much better in over all fishing .Mono is better with top water
Lines had to change to adjust to today's long, whippy rods, i.e. low or no stretch lines. But when we used shorter and stiffer rods, stretchy mono got 'er done just fine. Different means to the same end.
Berkley Big Game has done great for me as a leader when using live bait. Up to 18lb Striper and 39lb Blue Cat so far using the 30lb test. Lots of nice fish as well using the 10lb as a leader when fishing baits free.
Awesome instructional video. Trying to get into fishing after only going a handful of times as a kid, took my wife and young boys into walmart and dicks to get everybody a beginner setup and I was lost on all the options.
Hey man, good vid. I am one of those guys who have been fishing, longer than you have been alive...lol. I believe that the best line for most anglers is Copolymer. I also find Stren Flouro to be garbage! I only use mono for topwater. For everything else I use either Braid, Flouro or Copolymer, but by far I use Copolymer the most! Copolymer doesn't get nearly enough attention.
Team Jesus Outdoors Id say, I haven’t used silver thread mono since the eighties, I haven’t seen it around here for a very long time. I have cbeen really happy with the co polymer that Jimmy Houston is sponsored by the Grand Slam I think its around 7 dollars for 300 yards at Walmart. Silver thread wow, where would one find that? I bet it is pretty good.
You can still find Silver Thread if you really try. I have a local tackle shop that can get it. But I had such a good supply of it, that I am just now running out of most sizes. This year I am experimenting with P-Line Flouro coated Co-Polymer.
Hi Jonny, new sub here and going back over some of your older vids as I've been learning alot. One thing I'm curious about is why you don't consider copolymers. Yes, I know they are a bit more expensive, but even some of the pricier versions are less than the flouro I've been buying and in some cases less than the braid. Also, it seems like you would get the best of both worlds based on the applications you are using the mono for and perhaps even the flouro. PLine CXX is flouro coated for example and would seem like a great choice at a reasonable price point. It's also got great reviews on Tackle Warehouse from folks who have claimed to have been using it for years. I can see using braid for flipping and pitching the heavy stuff, but for the rest this seems to have enough stretch to have some give while not being "stretchy" like regular mono. Also doesn't seem to have the "fracturing" characteristic of Flouro and yet is just about as strong while having the benefit of low memory for casting yet is thinner than standard mono, again for better and more accurate casting. One person in his review said he had less sensitivity than when he used braid, yet in the Tackle Warehouse reviews a few mentioned they had no loss in sensitivity. I'm just curious as to why this isn't getting used more based on the research I've done which does include reviews, but not the kind of reviews that start out, "I casted out 5 times and it broke every time" kind of ridiculous garbage. Again, would love to hear your thoughts.
Hey Jonny - Two important pieces of information missing is if you are fishing braid to flouro: 1. If you Jack'em on every hookset, it is vital that you back off the drag just enough for your line to very, very slightly slip on the hookset. That will reduce the risk of breaking at the knot. 2. If you have decent hooks, you don't need to Jack every fish, especially when you are in low cover situations (which is when you would use braid to flouro). Great job with the content man!
Have been fishing way longer than you have been alive. I can say I have had big brand lines that have failed in batches. I was a trilene user til I came across a bad batch that I couldn't even tie a knot without it breaking. Switched to stren and have used it since. However I now use trilenebig game both mono and braid with success I still use stren on certain rods but if I'm going in to tough areas or going after toothy fish I use big game. Cost is not really a determination of what line I buy it is what my local shops carry. Sun line is something I would try if it was available but haven't seen it in my local shops. I try to shop mom and pops places and they don't have large inventory most often. New to the game try as many you can if you can afford it. That's the best way to learn what you like. Of course it depends on what gear you use and that learning curve as to putting line on your reels. Baitcaster is way easier to load than a spinner. And the knot you use also plays a role in which line is best for your lure choice.
Great content like always ! It’s always fun to see what everyone is doing different. I use a lot of fluorocarbon due to fishing a lot of clear water here in Austin, Texas. However, when I go back to Louisiana to dirtier water, I switch immediately back to mono ! Like you mentioned, my treble hook bait landing ratio goes through the roof while using mono and it’s inexpensive !
Love your videos! I found one exception to your cheap vs expensive fluorocarbon. Seaguar Red Label. You can find this from $11.99 - $14.99 for 200yrd. At least up to 15#, this stuff is strong and castable. Once you get to 20# it is a little stiff, but manageable once you have caught a few on it. Just my my opinion. Have you tried red label?
wow. a PT Tour. I haven't seen one of those in so long. The ARB broke in mine and i haven't had the heart to throw it out thinking i'll eventually have a worn out reel where that bearing will be the same. I asked to buy one separately and they would only sell the entire drive side cover as a unit
I caught some Berkeley big game 10lb.test spoiled it up. Ran out of tippet one day so I used it and caught caught a 8lb. Rainbow at the local Lake. Rainbows are supposed to be line shy and have caught a couple of bigger ones on 8lb. Maxima fluorocarbon and Sciencentific Angler 7.8kb. fluorocarbon. I've used 2lb. to 80lb. Lines 60lb. Ande 70lvb Yami and 2lb. Triple Fish Special Perlon have some good memories.
I've never broken off on a fish I'm using 30 ilb. Braid and 16 pound fluoro though also just use the swivels so you don't have to cut fluro off when you tie and it keeps a big one from cutting it
I have been catching fish on Berkley big game for decades now, I also fish fluorocarbons…. Honestly , I experience more break offs and knot failure with fluorocarbons. Eight pound test big game actually breaks at about 12 pound ….pretty tough stuff, and the price is very nice.
Bid I'm not sure about that cheap stren braid you got there but I know for a fact with power pro braid the only time you need to change you line on your reel is when you run out. The first time I ever saw braid I bought power pro and I had the same line on my spool of my spinning reel for AT LEAST 10 years and it was my main combo I used. The only reason I changed it was because it got too short. There's no need to change it out every year
Braid to floro or mono is the best. Tie a blood knot as the connecting knot. If you have a rod with micro guides run a really long leader. The only time I throw straight floro is a jerkbait.
@@fishingva9946 I've started using the double blood knot that tactical bassin uses because I've had a lot of problems with leader connection knots failing using other knots. So far that blood knot seems to be doing good
Nice video Jonny .Your speaking pace is very helpful . Learning a lot of good tips and information. What line do you recommend mostly for light balsa original Rapalas( size 7 and 9 floaters ) and Shad Rap 7 and 9 in this colder water . I’ve used your tips to spool Reels with shoe ( Ha 😅) also the economic tips with Seaguar Invisx tied to braid, instead of a total spool where not much gets used. Monofilament after watching your videos has made a strong comeback- I prefer the Berkeley XT in Green, and Suffix Elite. Use mono on treble hook baits . These bass tips also work with surf fishing for weakfish ( Speckled Sea Trout and slot Red Drum and Flounder) I live in Duck North Carolina so we have OBX surf , many canals of freshwater and fire ponds of freshwater. Just attended the fishing flea market at Chesapeake Convention Center. Huge turnout as wintertime is ending. Noticed that those Quantum PT Models ( Blue baitcaster Reels popularized by Bill Dance and Shaw Grigsby) are really getting hard to find and the few I see were pretty worn and commanded $80 or more. Many anglers it appears watched your video☝️
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Jonny, ur KILLING IT !
Keep up the great work.
Thanks, John! Glad you enjoyed.
John Daniel Hey Daniel just started a Bass Fishing Channel and would love any support, thanks..
I love your channel. I only really watch you and tacticalBassin. John Danial, you should watch them too. I don’t care if you were fishing your whole life like I have or today’s your first day both these channel should be watched all the time.
I heard the bass pro excel floro is awesome for the price. Not king but better than average. Small diameter good castibility pretty abrasion reststemt.
I like your channel better than most
Great line tutorial. Not only good for beginners but is also good for intermediate anglers. Always learn a lot from your channel
We appreciate the videos. You're instructional videos are second to none on UA-cam brutha! From the map breakdowns, to the electronics, to the fish movement and instinct..
Thanks. I'm a mono lover! You've just confirmed and save me money on deep cranking.
I always feel that watching your videos is a great use of my time.
Man are we glad we found your channel. You the only one out there that makes us feel we can still fish without 14 rod and reel combinations with the same number of line type combos. When we last fished years ago there was only mono and we enjoyed fishing. Now we we get the idea we can’t fish unless we use floro or braid. I just don’t have that many rods! 😛
Gordon Brock Hey Gordon just started a Bass Fishing Channel and would love any support, thanks..
I use braid as a main tied to a mono with a swivel and had an amazing summer with no break offs. Thank you for the video 👏👏
I prefer mono over any other. Trilene big game 12lb is my go to all around line it has been an extremely good line for me for years.
AMEN!!! I've been a die-hard bass fisherman ( and a lot of inshore fishing too ) here in central Florida since 1969. And I fish for bass today more than ever before. I mainly fish our famous Stick Marsh/Farm 13, and I have the pics & digital images to prove I've got four 12 lb'ers, thirteen 10's, seven 9's, and I literally lost count on all the 7 & 8's I've caught over the years. I was really heavy into braid, and then fluoro for quite some time. But after about 5 years, I noticed I was breaking off FAR too often using fluoro, even when setting the hook on small bass. Many youtubers are breaking off all too often on tiny bass too. It's always due to their "love of fluorocarbon". I was always making sure I re-tied fresh knots. Ya lose nearly 50% of the tested line strength at the knot with fluoro, right off the bat. I was using the best fluoro out there such as P-Line & Seaguar too. I eventually got so sick & tired of losing fish AND lures, that I swore off using fluoro ever again, and switched 100% back to Berkley Trilene Big Game mono in ALL different sizes from 12 lb to 25 lb test. Over 95% of my "line breakage issues" disappeared like a fart in the wind. Fluoro is only good for fishing deep, clear water. But even then, ya better be re-spooling often, even if ya fish half as often as I do. Fluoro is a member of the GLASS family, and it quickly develops tiny FRACTURES throughout the entire length of line off the spool to your lure or hook. Strong hook-sets, powerful or heavy fish, and trying to un-snag a lure from a tree or root immediately causes all those tiny fractures. That entire length of line off the spool is now RUINED......but the angler doesn't realize it yet. Then he loses a tiny fish on the hook-set due to breaking off, and assumes "there must've been a nick in the line somewhere"......Good mono holds up to shock & abrasion like a bulldog, and lasts a very long time too. I use TEN different rod & reel set-ups almost every time on the water. I will use at least 5 or more of them on any particular day. That gets VERY expensive if even a few are spooled with fluoro. The money I save on mono enables me to buy more lures too.
Big Game has never let me down! It may have some memory but it's worth it. I've caught numerous bass over 7 lbs on the 8 lb test! And the 12 lb test seems to be closer to 14-15 in strength. Good price point also.
@@lavernepeace3646 while I can't say I've caught more than just one 8lber I can say I have drug my line through enough gnarly stuff and rip rap to know big game does not fray easily. And I don't seem to have much memory issues but maybe it's because I hose it down with reel magic right after I reline and then periodically after that.
@@lavernepeace3646 Due to all the stumps, laydowns, eel grass & hydrilla all mixed together in shallow water, with the chance of a really big bass taking your lure at any time here on the Stick Marsh/Farm 13, I'm forced to used 17, 20, and 25 lb test Big Game mono. But I do get to use 12 lb for my hard jerk baits and any topwaters that aren't weedless. But even then, I gotta keep the fish up high to try & keep em from diving into that mess below.
@@howabouthetruth2157 It's good stuff I have used 17-20 for Sheepshead and the 25 for flipp'n. Do you remember the Stren Extra Strength mono? They stopped making it years ago......That was some good line also.
Ive thrown 20lb big game trilene had it break couple times on big bass catfish, also going braid to mono
Trilene Big Game shines in the water and in my opinion doesn't work very well for bass fishing, though it's excellent for other species such as catfish for example.. For years I have been using Berkeley Vanish and Fluoroshield copolymer, and they definitely work. But when I was a beginner, a long, long time ago, we only had monofilament lines. I still use Maxima chameleon.
Oh yes and another tip for those who don't know. If your budget is limited or whatever, you can get by with only two rods. One rigged with lighter mono/copolymer for topwater and shallow fishing with weightless plastics, and one with a good braid backing, to which you can attach a leader of fluorocarbon or heavier copolymer/mono (or just attach the lure straight to the braid when fishing discolored water with a big spinnerbait for example). Hope this helps out!
Lol...You definitely have the experience, Jonny...Your gear breakdowns are great and inform beginners and more experienced anglers alike. Keep doing them!
Thanks, as always, Jason!
@@FishtheMoment Since you like the Seguer, Invizex, curious what you think about their Redline?
I use each line for certain situations. Floro for making lures dive deeper/bottom, braid for punching or frogs, mono for topwater.
I dont fully believe in the invisible claim. Just last week I caught all my bass on straight yellow braid in 10+feet water clarity.
That’s really interesting! I wonder how much of it is mental and how much line actually affects the number of bites you get. Hard to test, so we may never know!
@@FishtheMoment Yup! I think it's mainly mental, but we can never know. It's a dance between fisherman and fish. Awesome material btw. Love it!
@@FishtheMoment easy to test. 2 guys fishing same baits but on different lines. Each time a bass is caught switch rods to take the anglers abilities out of the equation to give each line a fair shot.
Lots of good CoPolys out there. Suffix, Pliine, Izorline. Flouro does stretch and it DOES NOT recover on a hard stretch. For most new anglers coPoly and Braid will be fine
This is the best video so far I found in UA-cam for beginner. Fantastic video. Thank you. It will save me a lot of money if I found this video from the beginning.
Wow, really good. I grew up trout and smallmouth fishing very small streams and we always used 6lb mono. Then I started bass fishing and lost several so I jumped right to braid. This was great to understand when to use what, and why.
I swear by trilene 12lb smooth casting Mono. I love that stuff and have never had any issues with it. Great video! Learned a ton.
Same here, I use 10, 12 & 14 lb.
the truth is companies spread false lies to get people to buy more expensive stuff. mono works just fine. people are just ignorant and buy crap based on what they see on TV and what they read in fishing mags.
Does the color matter ?
Spinning or casting?
I find that tying knots on lures my often break knots while trying to sinch them down or tight. Yes I'm using spit when tying knots
Good info. I mostly fish tidal water so not a lot of visibility. I can fish straight braid but I usually prefer braid to fluoro leader because I get better sink and braid tends to cut into wood IMO. Fluoro just slides across any pilings or lay downs without digging in.
Makes sense! What kind of knot do you tie to connect your braid and fluoro?
Fish the Moment I use the Shin Fukae knot. See this link for a demonstration ua-cam.com/video/KGp4zpCzizA/v-deo.html It is the best, most consistently reliable knot I have found to connect leader to braid. I usually have line failures before knot failures. A big plus is that I don't have issue with the knot going through rod guides on either baitcasters or spinning rods.
Thank you for clarifying the difference for me. I may begin to save some money on line. You explain the reason for each situation really well.
love strenand Berkley. big game 12 pound. I pulled in a 33 inch stripe 19 lbs took runs then jumped good fight. Thanks big game. 12 pound big game and ugly stick gx2 all a man needs
Excellent information thank you. I gave up on fishing flourocarbon main line on my spinning reels long ago and switched to using a flourocarbon leader on either mono or braid depending on the situation(I do a lot of ultralight fishing for wild trout and river smallies). I do like using flourocarbon main line on most of my bfs reels. Most people use braid for bfs but I like the slickness and the stiffness of flourocarbon on my bfs reels. Braided line is awesome for heavy duty freshwater applications like large mouth in heavy cover and our local mountain lake pike. The stretch in mono with a flourocarbon leader has helped me to not rip the hook from a trout's or a crappie's soft mouth.
This is a great video.....but also shows how that line is so subjective. I'm braid to mono on most baitcasters, braid to floro on spinning, Floro on cranks and mono on topwater and jerkbaits.
Use what works for you!!
impresive detail and specifics. 202 was the year i applied myself to learn to fish and i started with bass. i will study this video again a few times to compare with my short experiences. thank you.
Let me introduce myself and tell you a little about myself. I have tournament fished at all levels for over 40 years and have qualified for the BASS Masters Classic twice and turned down the invitation to fish on the Elites. I have watched several of your videos and there all on target and top notch. The reason that I wanted you to know that I have some credentials is that I fish Mono about 75% of the time. You don't have to justify or make excuses for fishing Mono, it is the best choice a lot of the time! I am a shallow water, reaction bite, junk type fisherman for the most part and fish seeing my line isn't a big consideration. 90% of the time with braid I tie direct the rest of the time it's braid to floro, drop shot for those silly brown bass that you have to fish for sometimes in the NE.
Keep em coming bro & let's all watch & wait as this channel takes off!
I think you did a great job of explaining the concepts between different types of line. I agree that anglers starting out would save money and confusion by just using monofilament line. Line diameter is seldom explained. I think a video on how line diameter affects lure performance would be a great subject to explain in a future video.
love what you say about the bass Honing in on the bait, and not so much the Line.
I’m late to the party here, but just watched this. I went back to mono too after trying flouro & braid. Less line management issues and knot issues. I grew up fishing mono in Florida, it could be I’m just more comfortable with it. I tie a knot w/mono and feel confident it will hold. I also like the stretch factor. 🎣
Also I would recommend using mono as a backing on your reels you are spooling braid or fluoro on. Just judge the main line size you are using in relation to how much back you need. I always put mono backing and spool the mainline so that it is more than what I typically can cast (maybe 10 yards more). That'll save a lot of money versus filling an entire reel with braid or fluoro that will never see the water
These videos really have great content. Keep ‘em coming.
Thanks, Anthony!
Anthony Hernandez Hey Bro just started a Bass Fishing Channel and would love any support, thanks..
I have been using silver thread for the past 2 years. It is the best co polymer for the money. Buy bulk, buy online. This channel has already made me a better crappie fisherman.
Great channel. A question: If fish are suspicious of line type/colour, what do they think of a lure that has 2 or 3 treble hooks hanging from it?
My first thought was "what can this kid teach me?" My second thought was, "Hmmm... Maybe I don't know everything!" That being said, I've caught a lot of big bass. Including a 14.5 pounder. ALL on mono & 5'6" med action rods. I'll stick to what works for me! Great vid!
Even a blind squirrel can find a nut! Good luck sir
@@koryjameson5467 seems I've found thousands of them over the last 4+ decades!
When I was “new” to baitcasters. I recommend practicing and getting more comfortable on monofilament. Its cheap and easy to replace. I caught a couple of big bass on texas rigs on 17lb trilene big game mono. After you get “comfortable” dump it.
I agree 100% with all of this. Won a lot of money on crankbaits with big game.
Yea sure
Lmao
If you want to keep fishing line costs down use braid to leader and you won't have to keep respooling expensive flouro. you just change out your leader line every few trips. it has every advantage over mono or flouro. you feel everything, get better hooksets, all at a super low cost. I can't remember the last time I had to buy line. glad he covered this point. most people that make videos only talk about flouro or straight braid. so many people worry about the connection knot breaking(when i first started using this system i had failures, it worried me but after a while i mastered the knot i use and haven't had failure since then)or the knot going through the line guide but it literally doesn't affect the knot at all and if you aren't using those tiny micro guides the knot will cast just as well as a straight line. i have several rods with semi micro guides(lews tp1, new daiwa tatula rod) and 50lb braid to 20lb red label goes through without a problem(9 loop blood knot, check out tacticalbassin's knot video).
if you're running daiwa t wing setups this won't work tho. it sucks considering the whole idea is that line will go through easier and it's a huge opening but for some reason tiny circles are better than that marketing tool(it doesn't get you any distance lol).
TL;DR braid to leader is the best system to use(if you look at all the benefits it is a fact)and it's dirt cheap.
Yup.. I go straight flor. On my baitcasters too. Learned that some time back after testing it out myself. Those knots just don't hold up for some reason. My main braid now is suffix 65pd. And Berkley 20 pd. Flor. Totally agree with your set up.
James Hall fishing I agree, I don't like leaders sure they are fine for fly fishing, but when jacking bass they eventually fail at least for me, usually at the worst time as well.
I recently switched back to using mostly monofilament again after not getting as many bites on spider wire. I think it was a visibility thing, only spider wire bites i got were in heavy lily pad cover. Thanks for explaining fluro applications :)
Glad the video was helpful!
Great Video, thanks. I use a fluorocarbon leader and if I lose a fish, it's because the leader it's self broke and not the knot failing.
Trilene Big Game works fine for me where I fish. I’ve been catching bass for over 50 years on mono. I tried braid & fluorocarbon and had line & knot issues.
Great content, gotta be one of the top 5 fishing information You-Tuber !!!!
Great info. I’m from Florida and travel a lot now that I retired, so I’m having I rethink rig strategy. Used mono most for of my life as I’m cheap and worked for a living! A few years ago I joined a local bass club and eventually went to braid. I’ve used my regular setup in NY ponds with chatterbaits and worms (Texas, wacky, nail tail) with decent success.
I now in AZ and rethinking my strategy since I’ll be going for stocker trout and anything else that swims in the lakes I have access to.
My baitcaster and regular spinner will keep braid (I do 15 pound at this time) and start tying on flouro leader. My latest ultralight current has Stren mono - it’s a candidate for flouro.
Love your content - Les face it, tourney pros are sponsored and rarely pay for line!
VERY INFORMATIVE! Thank You! A quick tutorial concerning the abrasive resistance qualities in these different lines (especially fluorocarbon) would've been much appreciative. Great video, though.
Mono is great. Have been using it for over thirty years with no problems..
Great video! As most of us are non pro anglers the only info we really receive is from Pros on TV, magazines, etc.... these guys get paid by product plugging you see it all the time. Their job is Fishing and sales. They always use the "new greatest thing" on the shows simply to sell the product.
Thanks for the info brother, this sport is getting pretty expensive so all these tips can help save some money but still be using the best line for each situation.
The seaguar red label is pretty great for the price. You can grab a spool at Wal Mart for 11 or 12 bucks.
Just my .02¢ here, you can always adjust the spool drag to accommodate for the fish surging at the boat and keep from bending hooks or pulling out at the boat. Hold spool with finger when setting hook then deal with a little slip all the way to the boat.
I use straight braid for 99% of applications. Sometimes with a fluorocarbon leader, but usually not, since I'm usually fishing heavily stained water, and I'm not terribly worried about line visibility spooking fish. The one time I might really want a fluoro leader is when I'm trying to fish really deep (which is rare for me, TBH) to take advantage of the point that fluoro sinks.
But lately I've been experimenting with the Berkley Firewire Crystal, which is a *fused* (as opposed to *braided*) super-line. If you believe the hype, it's nearly invisible in the water, just like fluoro, but it still has the strength/diameter ratio close to braid. So far I'm pretty impressed with this stuff and it may become my new standard for most situations.
I don't really advocate running straight fluoro, at least not on spinning reels. I've always found the stuff to be too stiff with too much memory, and prone to tangling and getting fouled up.
New Subscriber here. You talk a lot of sense, so thank you 👍. ( just come back to fishing after many years, braid/ fluorocarbon wasn't an option). At the end of the day it all about trial and error, and what works for the individual. Take care and stay safe 🙏. 🏴🏴
I put about 50 feet of cheap 40 lb braid on my bait casting setups, with 70-80 of good Fluor. I can fill 3 or 4 reels from 1 200 yard spool
This makes more sense. When you're talking bass fishing with a spinning or bait casting reel you've got any situation covered with no chance of reaching the backing/main line knot.
Great video , I prefer mono over fluorocarbon and I can’t get away from it I bee used it forever.
Mono for Life!
nah japanese 8 strand braid to flouro leader. 1/2 the thickness of trash spiderwire braid
My 2 favorite lines are Fireline and Hi-Seas Mono that is also Florocarbon coated and it's only about $7 at wal-mart
I use Sufix siege monofilament 14 on my baitcaster and 10 pound on my spinning reel
Loving your vids. Analytical yet explained personably. Awesome stuff. Sharing with my buds.
Nice job! I think you did a great job explaining what the difference is in the three lines. As all three have there places that they shine. I almost only fish fluorocarbon and braid because that’s what I have on my rods. I will say if I can get away with fishing braided and catch fish I will always use it the stuff is absolutely tough and seems to almost last forever.
Nice to see a fellow Arkansan on the tube, good video. Can't bite on the Big Game though, fluoro or braid only here, unless it's a short leader for topwater hard baits.
And always if you can do it buy in bulk spool. Nothing more frustrating and in my opinion a waste of money is when you can down on one of the small spools and it's not enough for a fill. That loss is multiplied everytime that happens not to mention you get a better price buying a bulk spool.
Mono man myself (suffix bulk spool) and I have nothing against the other lines, but for my application (spinnerbaits primarily stained water) it's what I prefer.
Excellent video !!!
Great video. Personally, I have found that braided line is awful when it comes to abrasion resistance - especially around dock cables and rocks. Thanks!
Definitely is. That's what a top shot of mono is for
How did you get your own boat so young? I cant even afford a kayak. I'm a life long bass fisherman and did it all, but i got into saltwater this year just wet wading. Man its such a new challenge i love it. My main issue is the main 2 rods and reels i use were stolen, so i bought a couple more(im no newb and they weren't cheap) and they were jacked AGAIN! I have at least 10 unusable, expensive rods that are either broke off a 1/4 of the way down the rod or the eyelid inserts are gone and just cut your braid instantly. After you watch vids like this for 20 min, it just builds your confidence. All that hard work tying a double uni knot, studying the ends and outs of every minute detail....and then you rig up and you're ready with all this confidence. You take that first cast and there goes your broke off rig due to one eyelid insert missing. All that hard work haha. Having decent/ right equipment is a must when it comes to wading saltwater. Man all i want to do is fish and i literally can't right now bc i have to pay for more important things than rods and reels. The struggle is real with wading saltwater. Nothing like bass fishing. It's scary af but exciting at the same time.
Your vids have come a long ways man, i wish i could do the same. Appreciate you sharing all this info.
If you go to a Tackle Shop they may have a suggestion as to who you could take the rods that have bad guides to for replacements.
Yep, the struggle is real!
Saltwater fishing is great but sure is tough on equipment.
Be well.
I have all my baitcasters except my punching/flipping reels spooled with braid then 100’ of floro or mono. A lot cheaper keeping fresh line on your reels that way. Great vid Jonny !!
For me 80% of the time, I use braid to a 19"-24"mono leader. Still use mono for a lot of applications. Monofilament is definitely underrated. Get a quality mono, like ones mentioned above in the video, if you're using say $1.89 zebco mono and are complaining about memory issues, should get something a little more quality. nothing wrong with a new engler being budget-friendly or a seasoned angler being budget-friendly but your line is something you can control unlike weather or other like conditions. honestly the only time I even use fluorocarbon anymore is cranking. Maybe on some extremely clear water finesse days. But other than that I'm usually running braids to a monofilament leader or straight monofilament.
Great info, Bryan! Thanks for sharing.
Really enjoying the knowledge your sharing on this channel,very informative👍 I'm kind of over the whole FC line thing after experiencing knot issues, especially with the cheaper lines. Last season I tried the co-polymer Trilene Sensation with excellent results, in a gin-clear gravel quarry, and when conditions exist- Crystal clear Smallmouth river. This year I'm going to experiment with Maxima mono, as I've always wanted to try it. Also wanted to share that of the various knots i tried for FC I had the most success with the Shaw Grigsby knot (leader to bait knot).
Never had a problem with Berkley mono but I'd say the best I've ever seen was close between the very 1st spidar wire or the old school rapala mono they made back 25 years ago.
Braid to fluoro on all my baitcaster vertical presentations, except punching - straight braid; fluoro on all my horizontal baits, except some topwaters - some braid to mono, some straight mono, and some straight braid, and swimjigs with braid in heavier cover; braid to fluoro on all my spinning presentations, except in the rare case I spybait ~ I can count on one hand how many times I've broken my braid to fluoro knot in the past 5 years (just don't lock your drag down) - Crazy Alberto Knot
Use MAXIMA Ultra-Green mono if you hate losing baits!!!
I use 8lb and Easily flip 4lber any day
The cons is that it takes a lot of casting for the line to soften up and working or else (don’t recommend for casting setup if you are a beginner)
I don't use mono much anymore except as a leader in some scenarios. a great deal of my fishing happens from a kayak so its mostly about the stretch. I have problems with my hooklets in the kayak when using straight mono. its possible, you just have to swing for the fences. I throw topwater treble hook baits on braid with 2-3 ft of braid and soften my rod tip just a touch. I throw most of my moving baits on braid, braid with a leader, or straight flourocarbon. just something to add for the kayak anglers out there from my personal experience. just the kayak moving more absorbs more of the impact, and it reduces stretch for better hookups when using braid or fluoro
Right on. I don't fish for bass, but I found the video interesting.
I used Maxima mono much of my life, and I switched to Trilene simply because it's made here, and I have to say that it works just as well as Maxima if not better for less money.
I use 1/2 braid and the remainder flurocarbon using the double uni and when tied correctly it will never fail, I've never had it fail, but I'm not a professional fisherman, but I catch a lot of tough fish (fresh water) , never a knot failure, ever.
I've never had problem catching bass with Trilene 6 through 10 pnd test and love the cast ability. I enjoy fighting the fish. Fish in heavy cover, I use my Ambassador 5000 C with 20 pnd braid , 20 pnd mono leader or wire leader, while fishing waters that may have pike. I really like that 17 pnd Cajun line fishing for big catfish it seems to handle up to 60 pound yellow cats. I tried some fluorocarbon on walleyes, but caught just as many on Trllene, so I figured why blow the extra money on what I considered over priced line. What I'm looking for is some 2 pound mono for perch fishing, to toss those 1/16 jigs on my mini spin, It's been hard to find, I've got to try the bass pro shop, see if they have it. I have fished a couple of Bass Tournaments, I caught fish, but I did not care for the pace. I like to relax and for the really big ones, I usually sneak up on them and with all the boats flying around, it's hard to sneak up on them. I call it speed fishing with drama.
I dont understand that if they study the bait they see the 3 hooks and know it's not normal does it really matter that much?
This video is gold dude. Great stuff
I use braid backing with fluoro but I spool about 70 yards. This will allow for me to never cast to knot so I won't put pressure on the knot. Also after a while i reverse spool my fluoro to another reel and that's even longer use. Never broken off and I have even gone 6 months on same flouro when I reverse spool to another reel setup. Good stuff though. I'm a big fan of segaur bc diameter is smaller and same strength as others.
Agree with all your video -
I have to laugh at all the mono haters though / been fishing since the 70s .. it all we ever had next 30 years .. still caught just as many fish ..
floro and braid do have their place - but don’t over think it young anglers - mono was king for decades
Yes, for all the Mono haters.....I've been fishing over 55 years, after all, Bill Dance loves Stren Mono, go figure! Tight lines....
Mono is more abrasion resistant than floro which is more brittle and less tolerant to any impact against rocks and bottom structure. There is now proof mono is prefered over floro because of this.
Awesome tutorial. Everything you mentioned makes perfect sense. Thank you very much, just subscribed to your channel. Happy fishin' my friend.
I used big game for many years and still do in some things ,I have found that fluorocarbon is much better in over all fishing .Mono is better with top water
Lines had to change to adjust to today's long, whippy rods, i.e. low or no stretch lines. But when we used shorter and stiffer rods, stretchy mono got 'er done just fine. Different means to the same end.
Berkley Big Game has done great for me as a leader when using live bait. Up to 18lb Striper and 39lb Blue Cat so far using the 30lb test. Lots of nice fish as well using the 10lb as a leader when fishing baits free.
Awesome instructional video. Trying to get into fishing after only going a handful of times as a kid, took my wife and young boys into walmart and dicks to get everybody a beginner setup and I was lost on all the options.
Hey man, good vid. I am one of those guys who have been fishing, longer than you have been alive...lol. I believe that the best line for most anglers is Copolymer. I also find Stren Flouro to be garbage! I only use mono for topwater. For everything else I use either Braid, Flouro or Copolymer, but by far I use Copolymer the most! Copolymer doesn't get nearly enough attention.
Team Jesus Outdoors I’m glad it doesn’t get more attention, easy to find. I’ve been using it a few years now, great stuff.
My favorite copolymer is Silver Thread, and it is not cfc easy to find anymore.
Team Jesus Outdoors Id say, I haven’t used silver thread mono since the eighties, I haven’t seen it around here for a very long time. I have cbeen really happy with the co polymer that Jimmy Houston is sponsored by the Grand Slam I think its around 7 dollars for 300 yards at Walmart. Silver thread wow, where would one find that? I bet it is pretty good.
You can still find Silver Thread if you really try. I have a local tackle shop that can get it. But I had such a good supply of it, that I am just now running out of most sizes. This year I am experimenting with P-Line Flouro coated Co-Polymer.
Thanks for the 411, from Southern CA. Great video bro
Nicely done! Great information, thank you!
Hi Jonny, new sub here and going back over some of your older vids as I've been learning alot. One thing I'm curious about is why you don't consider copolymers. Yes, I know they are a bit more expensive, but even some of the pricier versions are less than the flouro I've been buying and in some cases less than the braid. Also, it seems like you would get the best of both worlds based on the applications you are using the mono for and perhaps even the flouro. PLine CXX is flouro coated for example and would seem like a great choice at a reasonable price point. It's also got great reviews on Tackle Warehouse from folks who have claimed to have been using it for years. I can see using braid for flipping and pitching the heavy stuff, but for the rest this seems to have enough stretch to have some give while not being "stretchy" like regular mono. Also doesn't seem to have the "fracturing" characteristic of Flouro and yet is just about as strong while having the benefit of low memory for casting yet is thinner than standard mono, again for better and more accurate casting. One person in his review said he had less sensitivity than when he used braid, yet in the Tackle Warehouse reviews a few mentioned they had no loss in sensitivity. I'm just curious as to why this isn't getting used more based on the research I've done which does include reviews, but not the kind of reviews that start out, "I casted out 5 times and it broke every time" kind of ridiculous garbage. Again, would love to hear your thoughts.
This was really informative. Good stuff!
Hey Jonny - Two important pieces of information missing is if you are fishing braid to flouro:
1. If you Jack'em on every hookset, it is vital that you back off the drag just enough for your line to very, very slightly slip on the hookset. That will reduce the risk of breaking at the knot.
2. If you have decent hooks, you don't need to Jack every fish, especially when you are in low cover situations (which is when you would use braid to flouro).
Great job with the content man!
Have been fishing way longer than you have been alive. I can say I have had big brand lines that have failed in batches. I was a trilene user til I came across a bad batch that I couldn't even tie a knot without it breaking. Switched to stren and have used it since. However I now use trilenebig game both mono and braid with success I still use stren on certain rods but if I'm going in to tough areas or going after toothy fish I use big game. Cost is not really a determination of what line I buy it is what my local shops carry. Sun line is something I would try if it was available but haven't seen it in my local shops. I try to shop mom and pops places and they don't have large inventory most often. New to the game try as many you can if you can afford it. That's the best way to learn what you like. Of course it depends on what gear you use and that learning curve as to putting line on your reels. Baitcaster is way easier to load than a spinner. And the knot you use also plays a role in which line is best for your lure choice.
You answered my question, I'll tie braid to my spinning reel and tie 8lb flouro.
Cool! Glad I could help!
Another useful video! Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
Best line i have found for the money is suffix pro mix, its a mono. Floro blend its great line, casts really good and good strength.
Pro mix is the best line for the money use it for perch bass walleye and even big lake trout super smooth and strong
Great content like always ! It’s always fun to see what everyone is doing different. I use a lot of fluorocarbon due to fishing a lot of clear water here in Austin, Texas. However, when I go back to Louisiana to dirtier water, I switch immediately back to mono ! Like you mentioned, my treble hook bait landing ratio goes through the roof while using mono and it’s inexpensive !
Love your videos! I found one exception to your cheap vs expensive fluorocarbon. Seaguar Red Label. You can find this from $11.99 - $14.99 for 200yrd. At least up to 15#, this stuff is strong and castable. Once you get to 20# it is a little stiff, but manageable once you have caught a few on it. Just my my opinion. Have you tried red label?
red label is garbage
wow. a PT Tour. I haven't seen one of those in so long. The ARB broke in mine and i haven't had the heart to throw it out thinking i'll eventually have a worn out reel where that bearing will be the same. I asked to buy one separately and they would only sell the entire drive side cover as a unit
Thank you for the great information 👍🏽🎣
Glad you enjoyed!
I caught some Berkeley big game 10lb.test spoiled it up. Ran out of tippet one day so I used it and caught caught a 8lb. Rainbow at the local Lake. Rainbows are supposed to be line shy and have caught a couple of bigger ones on 8lb. Maxima fluorocarbon and Sciencentific Angler 7.8kb. fluorocarbon. I've used 2lb. to 80lb. Lines 60lb. Ande 70lvb Yami and 2lb. Triple Fish Special Perlon have some good memories.
I've never broken off on a fish I'm using 30 ilb. Braid and 16 pound fluoro though also just use the swivels so you don't have to cut fluro off when you tie and it keeps a big one from cutting it
I have been catching fish on Berkley big game for decades now, I also fish fluorocarbons…. Honestly , I experience more break offs and knot failure with fluorocarbons. Eight pound test big game actually breaks at about 12 pound ….pretty tough stuff, and the price is very nice.
I use 10-12-14sunline snipper for feel fishing only not too water or cranking blades
Bid I'm not sure about that cheap stren braid you got there but I know for a fact with power pro braid the only time you need to change you line on your reel is when you run out. The first time I ever saw braid I bought power pro and I had the same line on my spool of my spinning reel for AT LEAST 10 years and it was my main combo I used. The only reason I changed it was because it got too short. There's no need to change it out every year
Tactical Bassin has me convinced. I'm trying braid to mono leaders this year. I'm going to use mono a lot this year. I haven't used it in a few years
Braid to floro or mono is the best. Tie a blood knot as the connecting knot. If you have a rod with micro guides run a really long leader. The only time I throw straight floro is a jerkbait.
@@fishingva9946 I've started using the double blood knot that tactical bassin uses because I've had a lot of problems with leader connection knots failing using other knots. So far that blood knot seems to be doing good
@@danielrigg9715 yeah I've never had it break at the knot when fighting a fish so I believe in it as well
Nice video Jonny .Your speaking pace is very helpful . Learning a lot of good tips and information.
What line do you recommend mostly for light balsa original Rapalas( size 7 and 9 floaters ) and Shad Rap 7 and 9 in this colder water . I’ve used your tips to spool Reels with shoe ( Ha 😅) also the economic tips with Seaguar Invisx tied to braid, instead of a total spool where not much gets used. Monofilament after watching your videos has made a strong comeback- I prefer the Berkeley XT in Green, and Suffix Elite. Use mono on treble hook baits .
These bass tips also work with surf fishing for weakfish ( Speckled Sea Trout and slot Red Drum and Flounder)
I live in Duck North Carolina so we have OBX surf , many canals of freshwater and fire ponds of freshwater.
Just attended the fishing flea market at Chesapeake Convention Center. Huge turnout as wintertime is ending.
Noticed that those Quantum PT Models ( Blue baitcaster Reels popularized by Bill Dance and Shaw Grigsby) are really getting hard to find and the few I see were pretty worn and commanded $80 or more.
Many anglers it appears watched your video☝️