Pranav never talked about hinduphobia when talking against hindus. You are diluting the argument from the start by sympathising with muslims and not viewing islam from a critical lens.
What makes you think I'm not critical of islam. That has nothing to do with showing compassion towards other human beings that are being oppressed. Irrespective of whether they're Hindus or Christians or Muslims or any other religion
We have to separate people from ideologies. And see people having ideologies instead of boxing them as Muslims or Hindus. I think the stand here is clear, Islam has issues in its texts but that doesn't mean we hate the people who follow Islam. Criticize the texts, not the reader
@@DDRational_ If Islamophobia is real then Hinduphobia is also real, Christianophobia is also real, Sikhphobia also real, Jew phobia also real. I don't see anyone talking about that, it's always Islamophobia.
Today in Bangladesh a 15 year teen was lynched by mob for criticising prophet. Sad part is the boy was in custody of police.People were then celebrating and posting with pride that they have taken revenge of insulting prophet.
The word Islamophobia is incorrect, Phobia means unnecessary fear, islamofear is the correct term Islam as a political ideology is something you should be fearful of. The political ideology its laws, the Sharia especially is against everything humanity stands for. The political ideology is regressive towards women children and any one who is a disbeliever. The meaning of many of the verses that normal muslims recite unknowing of there meaning are abusive and offensive to anyone outside Islam. M
Islam is far superior than anything else, any religion or ideology. Provide time and address to debate that on national TV and the accept the proposal that you will accept Islam after the humiliation.
@@Bone.doctor.v I don't get why u guys are so obsessed in the literal meaning of a word, it is very clear that the word is used in context to express hate towards muslims. I think you watch too much Ravichandran.
@user-jt8vj1vm6y in medical terms especially psychiatry phobia is used as a suffix to name disorders were the fear of some object or situation is irrational.
@@hashifvs519 most religions teach to hate other religions and people outside their religion. Islamic teachings are at the heights of this hate.but majority of muslims are not like this just by heart the arabic versers and are un aware of what they are reciting. Islamic fear is something mohammed himself propagated so that he could subjugate villages and crowds around the Arabian peninsula and it's something he and his god boasted about in the Qur'an. Now in the modern world Islamist find this inconvenient. Not others problem that's what the religion propagates 🤷🏾
@user-jt8vj1vm6y When in current medical and other usages the phobia is suffixed after some word to denote irrational fear. Fearing Islam the political ideology is not irrational it's the same as fearing any other fascist ideology like Nazism. Islamophobia is the wrong term you can say islamofear. If you want to adress hate towards muslim you can say muslim phobia idont have any objection about it
@@pixelpie5280 Discrimination happens because Muslim remain in their bubble and social group, don't adopt and accept others culture, consider islam as superior and less of other religion, give more importance to islam then law of land, and more loyal to Islamic brotherhood than country they are living in. - source: person living in Muslim neighbourhood
exactly.people need to know that critisizing bad ideas like death to apostates , blasphemers and homosexuals ,or stoning and flogging is not same as calling for social boycott or genocide or of Muslims.Criticism is ok .Hate speech is not.
@@subhadeepghosh3961 The sooner you realise the better you get. Islam is the real danger... And you have to be Islamophobic to deal with this.. Now majority are... Look at the west.. Islamophobia doesn't equate to hating the person who follows this (if he is not a criminal)..
Ok I have to laugh. But it's really cute when he does that though. But it's also a really good practice because communication is just hard in general (imo).
@@dwaynetaylor1575 wow i had no idea . Does this hate sometimes manifest into discrimination ? Because after the uk riots the discrimination seems to be coming from the christian conservative side .
Pranav never talked about hinduphobia when talking against hindus. You are diluting the argument from the start by sympathising with muslims and not viewing islam from a critical lens.
If Islamophobia is real then Hinduphobia is also real, Christianophobia is also real, Sikhphobia also real, Jew phobia also real. I don't see anyone talking about that, it's always Islamophobia. Why
@@Banditxam4 I don't think it's more than kaafirphobia. Can u name just 1 discriminatory law or policies against muslims in non Islamic countries except China? Just 1. I will mention atleast 5 such policies in Islamic countries.
@ApostateAladdin is one of the most empathetic and mild-mannered ex-muslims I have seen on UA-cam. I hope the two of you collaborate again in the near future. I agree with ex-muslims when they say that they prefer the expression 'anti-muslim bigotry' to the term 'islamophobia'. With respect to the Israel-Palestine conflict, one can strongly dislike islam and yet feel sympathetic towards the Palestinian people for the suffering they have endured. Similarly, one can support Israel's political position regarding their right to exist as a country and support their response after the Hamas attack on Israeli civilians and at the same time criticise their government and their military for their bombardment of Palestinian civilians. Like Apostate Aladdin said, many commenters on UA-cam are simplistic in their beliefs and view people and issues in black and white.
I am an atheist. I don't believe in the existence of God. There is insufficient evidence or rational justification to support the belief in any gods or supernatural entities. I rely on reason, logic, and empirical evidence to form my worldview and do not find compelling evidence or arguments to support the existence of god.The universe is governed by natural laws and forces, rather than moral, spiritual, or supernatural ones. As an atheist, I reject the idea of God. I emphasize the social and empirical nature of inquiry and prioritize scientific solutions to intellectual problems. There is an intrinsic intellectual conflict between faith and science, and that it inevitably leads to hostility.
You are absolutely right there's no evidence of god and believeing in these shitty religions leads u to deny the theories that we have proof of Like evolution 😂 Btw there no such thing that needs a first cause if you know then im happy to know . And even if there was a first cause it shouldnt be god it can be a natural cause also
@@AergloXd You are just Ignorant There must be a First cause that led to the creation of matter space and time The First cause must be uncreated and timeless A natural cause ain't all that
@@The_Omniscient_Being The first cause argument has been debunked decades ago. The problem with theistic arguments is that you guys ignore the answers given by atheists and keep using the same arguments for decades
Interview Ex-muslim SAHIL. He is the best representative of ex-muslim movement in India. He clearly mentions that he loves Muslims and hates Islam as an ideology.
@@pixelpie5280 You are a ‘pick and choose one part of the comment’ expert, aren’t you? Also, a cow is somebody’s livelihood and STSJ is in their skybook. Gold medal for so many false equivalences in one comment 🥇
@@ramabapat wdym pick and choose my question is if u can hate "muslims" for a thing why can't u hate "hindus" for something very similar . Btw cow is their sky___ as well . Nothing is false equivalence here
If any ex-muslim in India is becoming right leaning, the responsibility lies with the leftist. Because they never gave exmuslims any platform forcing them to move towards other camp. Being a leftist myself, it pains me a lot.
Being an exmuslim I agree with some points of the left and some points of the right , I am pro Israel and for limited immigration , I will also actively discriminate against Muslims who support slavery killing apostates
Exactly. Left stands with Islam or keeps quite when Islamists do problematic things. We don't have any choice other that going to right. We can only try to stop people from going far right and bring them close to center but leftists are not gonna solve these problems.
In india, ex muslims are popping up because RW is in power and they know they can save their a$$ from islamic extremists by s*king to RW and spreading islamophobia. The problem here is, minorities are conservative, they want their own islamic laws for some stuff and they pretend to be liberal, and left needs vote of whole muslim community (conservative and liberal) to stand a chance against BJP, I think once left gets strong enough electorally and the more atheism grows here, they will leave conservatives. What can left do if the society itself is sh*t. This ongoing rhetoric of BJP has produced even more extremists on both sides.
Thats actually the point? If I am left and someone doesnt agree with my leftist views they are right leaning wrt to me? havent you ever been to school?
Bro you're absolutely right, u can see guys like aarif mohammed hussain down here in kerala and all those who work with a popular atheist community here called essence global headed by a Richard Dawkins like figure Mr Ravichandran, spread anti-muslim anti-reservation and tansphobic propaganda, anti-intellectualism and all the things that are at par with the alt-right groups we see prominently on the internet and unfortunately these are quite popular.
@DDRational_ Arguing about something, reacting to something, and expressing the views is not called racist hindutva. its called liberation and freedom of speech. why can't I react to alladin's video ? How is that racist if i express my views ? just like some other people are reacting to my comment. I am not against good human. good human can be from any community it doesn't matters. but i have freedom of speech and i will speak.
I think it's important to talk about the dangers of Islam and actually the dangers of any religious extremism.. as we see in India with the beef issues... with India, there is a lot of anti-Muslim sentiment online which is concerning.. Indians need to realize that you need to talk about the dangers of radicalization but you should never dehumanize an entire group of people.. with time, and a proper education and a healthy development of critical thinking skills.. I think all the harmful parts of religion should be phased out... naturally... I love India and I hope to see it prosper! Hopefully the country can become a true secular country and all people from all religions can create a unified identity.. I hope to see it happen! Never do anything through hate , only through love
@@unknownme7177 exactly, that's what I was saying. India needs to be a true secular country... where religion is a personal issue and you have no right to impose your views onto others.. you can practice your religion as long as you're not hurting anyone... In a true secular society, a Muslim person can eat what they like
Im glad you brought on a more different atheist and ex Muslim angle, to many Indians and indian atheist lack critical thinking and tend to go more soft on religion in India, and only seem to grow some balls when it comes Hinduism and even that is limited, just because someone is right leaning, does not make their religious criticism less or wrong. However this is more in general to the scene in india and not your channel only , also you do more about science and rational thought which is also very necessary, my criticism is more for towards the channels that only focus on religion
❤❤❤keep it up good work. as a muslim i may not agree with him in all points but i'm happy to find a exmuslim with package of islamaphobia or aligning themself with the fascist right.
Your obviously not educated and so missed the point of the video, also Armin unlike many of the ex Muslims, had to go throw truma linked to the religion and his Iranian background, hence he has a more emotional push back to, stop living in your imaginary high moral position
Glad to see you talk about Islamophobia. Religion has been a big problem in this world. People who hate others based on religion needs to be called out too.
Being ex Muslim.myself he just spoke what i felt. It was disturbing and confusing when we see lot of ExMuslim whom we thought rationalist are supporting Hindutva, Christian propogator, Zionism. I messaged few myself not support any of this for the sake of Humanity. I am truely happy ifound You and your guest being rational standing by the humanity. We are Athiets who refused dogmas, irrationalitional ideas from our life. we have found that being human in itself is enough to live. Thanks again 🙏
Well ex musmlim sahil Sameer Adam litterally all believes in different ideology but they all support ex muslims of any ideology whether he is interested in Christianity Hinduism atheism agnostism ok i doubt about Sameer cause he is pro hindutva guy
The fact that an ex Hindu can come out in the open on social media, while an ex-muslim has to hide his face behind a mask probably justfies Islamophobia dont you think ?
You should interview Exmuslims even if you feel they are right leaning. There should be dialogue between all camps. Cancel culture promotes eco-chambers.
But you dont show this same aoft corner for Hindus. You can critisize weird practices in Hinduism but you do support people who attack Hindus themselves too? Why not use the same analogy as this video while dealing with Hinduism and Hindus? Why do you have to make 10 disclaimers before criticizing Islam? And that methodology is not followed when dealing with Hinduism and Hindus? Or is it your hidden problem is that most ex-muslims are generally right leaning? Instead of putting all the blame on others maybe even introspect a bit?
He tends not to like those that are seen to be RW and so doubt he will , that's the trouble with India and it's atheist, many want a soft spot for Islam as they see them as a minority and make the message weak
@@raghavnamasivayam8706 IF hindus were 51% and muslims were 49% of the population, muslims will still be a minority. Tf you mean not small minority? They are 14% of the population compared to 80% of hindus. You guys outnumber them by 5.7 times. They are a small minority compared to you guys.
@@lasyak6355 yes given the large population of India, and still there are the biggest minority with other groups not getting as much sympathy for their religion, and even if they were a minority does not mean that the religion gets a pass, 200 million plus Muslims is more then most countries population, and the more ignorant views like this are kept the more hard line anti Islam stances other will need to take
From saying any junk food is healthy as natural foods to supporting israel is islamophobic those rational youtiber claims he's rational when he knows nothing this guy should stop making videos about things he doesn't know
@@jammRJ Not every exmuslims can reveal their identity coz ex muslims may fear death threats to their family coming from hardcore islamist and ISIS terrorist
There are 2 sides of Islam. one is religious side another is political. The political Islam enforces the people their idelogy want want to conquer/conquest their land. Here Alladin is only talking about religious Islam. Muslims are doing politics all the time that why they get critised all the time. if someone puts his hands in fire of course it will burn the hand. Doing politics and not getting accused for anything this cannot happen at the same time. Alladin is either not understanding or not wanting to understand about political Islam. Maybe he is or he is not getting any benefit from it. hey mr. Alladin if someone gets involve in politics they will get critisized its that simple. Most muslims are politicians either directly or indirectly. Most muslim wants to establish sharia laws in other's countries, that's why islamophobia exists.
@@Madara456 In Quran and Hadiths there is clearly written to do politics against non-muslims. I am not generalizing it. I am telling according to the Quran and Hadiths. That's what Quran says not me. its Qurans opinion its not my personal opinion.
@daria_morgendorfer isn't in quran its written to fight against infedials ? first of all called others kafirs , the word itself is the racist here. non believers are the worst of creatures and they will be locked into hell for eternities.. isn't this what quran and hadiths says ? am i wrong . correct me if i am wrong
You don't need to be Islamophobic to support Israel. There are valid arguments to support Israel other than Islamophobia. This is like saying anyone who speaks against casteism is hinduphobic
And may can u please present those valid arguments?? Other than "7th October saaarrr, 7th October" coz Israel has been sh!tting on Palestinians for a very long time, 7th October was wrong, but ignoring what Israel did to Palestinians before 7th October and what Israel's been doing after 7th October is being ignored.
@@DDRational_ You said a motivational factor for ex Muslims supporting Israel is just to oppose whatever muslims support. If that is true by definition that is textbook Islamophobia.
@@art_obbyif you're gonna go by Primacy of Arrival argument, Jews were there long before the Ottoman Empire. And after the Ottoman Empire it is the British Mandate of Palestine. There did not exist a country called Palestine ever. But of course I bet you're a Hamas Piker fan
Its been months since AP made that 'harsh' video and he is still using it in his argument to gross generalise others. My man takes holier than thou, virute signalling to level a mortal can only dream of.
@@Blazee2897 I too was curious to know what leftie nonsense you are talking about. But your response here clearly proves you don't even know the meaning of the Left.
Oh my my..This self-righteous guy, seriously! 🤦 Pranav don't nod to everything what he is saying! Instead of being critical of Islam like other religions as an atheist, it seems like you are trying to normalise it a bit..Talk about the major issues (like immigration crisis in brief) that are happening in Europe..Otherwise you are going nowhere with these types of silly conversations..
Ohh, it seems like there is no relation between Islamic immigration and the present Europe becoming upside down..Thanks man, you've opened my eyes 👍 You are a real blind atheist Islam wants to play their number games...
@@DDRational_ Yeah immigration crisis has nothing to do with Islam in Europe..Thanks for being supportive of Islam.. You'll definitely go to jannat, my dear 🤗
@@nikhilkk3786 PRANAV: How is immigration an issue of the IDEOLOGY of islam NIKHIL: *strawmanning the question from ideology of the religion to people of the religion* The crisis has nothing to do with the IDEOLOGY of islam. It is just muslims migrating. Sure, you can say it's a problem but that problem has nothing to do with the religion itself. The problem involves the people not the ideology.
There are those of us who stand for modern western values, rationalism, tolerance for atheists and other minorities, free expression,open society etc In the Israel/ Palestine issue, as it is with Ukraine/Russia issue, the sides are clear. When the broken body Shani Louk was brought into Gaza on a truck by Hamas, half naked because she was at a dance festival, Gazan civlians danced around it, and a child in the video spit on her body. When was the last time a large pubic population in the West celebrated the murder, rape and desecration of a woman like that? No one is owed a country, ESPECIALLY if those who want the country are explicit about their hatred of you, and their intention to murder your people.
So you stand against palestine because of hamas? The same hamas that even palestinians speak against even when isreal is attacking non hamas occupied areas of palestine? There is death on both sides but if you can't see that one side is basically unarmed then there is no point in trying to talk to you.
Then even Israel isn't owed a country, right? So, why support them? This is some Zionist level propaganda you're spewing here by dehumanizing people of Palestine as those with "explicit intention of murdering you" or whatever. Learn some empathy.
@@abc-pw5ff This is completely wrong 1. Hamas has wide support in the population as multiple polls have shown. 2. Hamas was elected by popular vote exactly a few months after Israel left Gaza, and at that time their charter explicitly said “we will kill ALL JEWS”. Gazans voted for them knowing that they will commit terror attacks
What “unarmed”, are you serious? they stole aid money to build tunnels, attacked Israeli civilians with 1000s of rockets, They’re equipped with Kalashnikovs Just admit you’re buying into dumb anti-Israel logic from leftists for whom everyone who opposes the west is a victim and a hero, from Pol Pot to Hamas
Lot of folks here is saying Islamophobia means just fear of religion of Islam and not “being muslimosphobic”. Its an etymological fallacy. Islamophobia by modern definition means hatred against muslims.Just like anti semetism means hatred against jews, but not against arabs, eventhough arabs are also semitic people. This has been a common fallacy that is beingused extensively by many ignorant people out there, especially by many right wing bigots.
@@Chalshanaban007no Islamophobia doesnt mean just fear of Islam, it includes prejudice and hatred against muslims. Thats the whole point. The word Islamophobia has a meaning today and it is not its exact etymological meaning.
Pranav never talked about hinduphobia when talking against hindus. You are diluting the argument from the start by sympathising with muslims and not viewing islam from a critical lens.
What makes you think I'm not critical of islam. That has nothing to do with showing compassion towards other human beings that are being oppressed. Irrespective of whether they're Hindus or Christians or Muslims or any other religion
We have to separate people from ideologies. And see people having ideologies instead of boxing them as Muslims or Hindus. I think the stand here is clear, Islam has issues in its texts but that doesn't mean we hate the people who follow Islam. Criticize the texts, not the reader
No such thing as hinduphobia.
Stop inventing imaginary discrimination.
@@arpitkumar2981 paganism hatrets,?
@@DDRational_
If Islamophobia is real then Hinduphobia is also real, Christianophobia is also real, Sikhphobia also real, Jew phobia also real. I don't see anyone talking about that, it's always Islamophobia.
Today in Bangladesh a 15 year teen was lynched by mob for criticising prophet. Sad part is the boy was in custody of police.People were then celebrating and posting with pride that they have taken revenge of insulting prophet.
The word Islamophobia is incorrect,
Phobia means unnecessary fear, islamofear is the correct term
Islam as a political ideology is something you should be fearful of.
The political ideology its laws, the Sharia especially is against everything humanity stands for.
The political ideology is regressive towards women children and any one who is a disbeliever.
The meaning of many of the verses that normal muslims recite unknowing of there meaning are abusive and offensive to anyone outside Islam.
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Islam is far superior than anything else, any religion or ideology.
Provide time and address to debate that on national TV and the accept the proposal that you will accept Islam after the humiliation.
@@Bone.doctor.v I don't get why u guys are so obsessed in the literal meaning of a word, it is very clear that the word is used in context to express hate towards muslims. I think you watch too much Ravichandran.
@user-jt8vj1vm6y in medical terms especially psychiatry phobia is used as a suffix to name disorders were the fear of some object or situation is irrational.
@@hashifvs519 most religions teach to hate other religions and people outside their religion.
Islamic teachings are at the heights of this hate.but majority of muslims are not like this just by heart the arabic versers and are un aware of what they are reciting.
Islamic fear is something mohammed himself propagated so that he could subjugate villages and crowds around the Arabian peninsula and it's something he and his god boasted about in the Qur'an.
Now in the modern world Islamist find this inconvenient.
Not others problem that's what the religion propagates 🤷🏾
@user-jt8vj1vm6y When in current medical and other usages the phobia is suffixed after some word to denote irrational fear.
Fearing Islam the political ideology is not irrational it's the same as fearing any other fascist ideology like Nazism.
Islamophobia is the wrong term you can say islamofear.
If you want to adress hate towards muslim you can say muslim phobia idont have any objection about it
Islamophobia among ex Muslim ❌
Concerns and genuine fear among ex Muslim ✅
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Islamophobia is a real thing and less to do with criticism of islam and more to do with discrimination towards muslims . -source georgetown
@@pixelpie5280 Islamophobia: a word created by Fascists , and used by cowards, to manipulate morons. --- Christopher Hitchens.
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Discrimination happens because Muslim remain in their bubble and social group, don't adopt and accept others culture, consider islam as superior and less of other religion, give more importance to islam then law of land, and more loyal to Islamic brotherhood than country they are living in. - source: person living in Muslim neighbourhood
@@Jibreel-jt1qh u do realize u are justifying discrimination? And even if ur reasons are 100% true that's actually islamophobic 💀
hate the word islamophobia.
I accept to speak against muslim phobia, but there is nothing wrong in fearimg a politival idea like uslam.
Agreed
exactly.people need to know that critisizing bad ideas like death to apostates , blasphemers and homosexuals ,or stoning and flogging is not same as calling for social boycott or genocide or of Muslims.Criticism is ok .Hate speech is not.
@@subhadeepghosh3961 The sooner you realise the better you get. Islam is the real danger... And you have to be Islamophobic to deal with this.. Now majority are... Look at the west..
Islamophobia doesn't equate to hating the person who follows this (if he is not a criminal)..
Yeah the word makes it look like criticism of islam is Islamophobia . Which nothing should be exempt from criticism
@@ApostateAladdin whatabout kaferphobia in islamic country
Alladin : *breaths*
Pranav : YOU JUST INNALED OXYGEN IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT FOE WHAT YOU JUST DID
Ok I have to laugh. But it's really cute when he does that though. But it's also a really good practice because communication is just hard in general (imo).
I appreciate his attempts at confirming what I mean. Sometimes it allows me to correct or add to something. It's good communication!
But the comment is funny 😂
Christophobia seems way more common yet media never mentions it
Christophobia is not common in the west maybe in india . And these words mainly originate in the west .
@@pixelpie5280 I live in the UK.Christophobia is very common here.People attack Christians and there lifestyle constantly
@@dwaynetaylor1575 wow i had no idea . Does this hate sometimes manifest into discrimination ? Because after the uk riots the discrimination seems to be coming from the christian conservative side .
700 churches burned downed in Manipur, Media never portray that.
Thank you Pranav. Someone has rightly said "left has got Islam wrong and right has got muslim wrong"
And you have got both wrong
@@AergloXd how dear sir
@@Philosopher-ey6qg because islam doesnt give anything like beautiful rights to women and not rven normal rights
And those who do not accept Islam as it is are not considered Muslims
@@AergloXdna u just can't read .
Pranav never talked about hinduphobia when talking against hindus. You are diluting the argument from the start by sympathising with muslims and not viewing islam from a critical lens.
My two universes colliding! Loved this collaboration. I love AA's nunaced approach of criticizing religion without resorting to bigotry.
Was just about to comment this. Unexpected crossover
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If Islamophobia is real then Hinduphobia is also real, Christianophobia is also real, Sikhphobia also real, Jew phobia also real. I don't see anyone talking about that, it's always Islamophobia. Why
nothing of those is real... one can be muslimphobic but islamophobic is just absurd....they generally use it to gain sympathy and support....
Because Islamophobia is more in the world compared to others but jewphobia is also real...
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I don't think it's more than kaafirphobia. Can u name just 1 discriminatory law or policies against muslims in non Islamic countries except China? Just 1. I will mention atleast 5 such policies in Islamic countries.
Great discussion, thanks.
@ApostateAladdin is one of the most empathetic and mild-mannered ex-muslims I have seen on UA-cam. I hope the two of you collaborate again in the near future. I agree with ex-muslims when they say that they prefer the expression 'anti-muslim bigotry' to the term 'islamophobia'. With respect to the Israel-Palestine conflict, one can strongly dislike islam and yet feel sympathetic towards the Palestinian people for the suffering they have endured. Similarly, one can support Israel's political position regarding their right to exist as a country and support their response after the Hamas attack on Israeli civilians and at the same time criticise their government and their military for their bombardment of Palestinian civilians. Like Apostate Aladdin said, many commenters on UA-cam are simplistic in their beliefs and view people and issues in black and white.
wasn't expecting this collab. Glad it happened.
Yayyy!! I have been waiting for this collab! Thanks a ton ! 🤩
Oh wow. Hi @ApostateAladdin. I've seen his video from Genetically Modified Skeptic. Nice collab btw. Love from Nepal both of you....
Felt like pranav had a political agenda and wanted to look unbiased
Comment on my political agenda in tomorrow's video
Typical leftist so called neutral unbiased or should pretending to be unbiased what do you expect 😂
I am an atheist. I don't believe in the existence of God. There is insufficient evidence or rational justification to support the belief in any gods or supernatural entities. I rely on reason, logic, and empirical evidence to form my worldview and do not find compelling evidence or arguments to support the existence of god.The universe is governed by natural laws and forces, rather than moral, spiritual, or supernatural ones. As an atheist, I reject the idea of God. I emphasize the social and empirical nature of inquiry and prioritize scientific solutions to intellectual problems. There is an intrinsic intellectual conflict between faith and science, and that it inevitably leads to hostility.
What is the first cause then?
You are absolutely right there's no evidence of god and believeing in these shitty religions leads u to deny the theories that we have proof of Like evolution 😂
Btw there no such thing that needs a first cause if you know then im happy to know . And even if there was a first cause it shouldnt be god it can be a natural cause also
@@AergloXd You are Ignorant
The first cause have to be timeless and un created
A 'natural cause' doesn't qualify any of these criterias
@@AergloXd You are just Ignorant
There must be a First cause that led to the creation of matter space and time
The First cause must be uncreated and timeless
A natural cause ain't all that
@@The_Omniscient_Being The first cause argument has been debunked decades ago. The problem with theistic arguments is that you guys ignore the answers given by atheists and keep using the same arguments for decades
Interview Ex-muslim SAHIL. He is the best representative of ex-muslim movement in India. He clearly mentions that he loves Muslims and hates Islam as an ideology.
Lol by that logic modiji doesn't do hindu-muslim because he said he hates doing hindu-muslim . 🤡
How can you not hate someone who does STSJ and those who try to whitewash all that or deflect attention by playing victim?
@@ramabapat by that logic how can u not hate hindus for cow vigilantism .
@@pixelpie5280 You are a ‘pick and choose one part of the comment’ expert, aren’t you? Also, a cow is somebody’s livelihood and STSJ is in their skybook. Gold medal for so many false equivalences in one comment 🥇
@@ramabapat wdym pick and choose my question is if u can hate "muslims" for a thing why can't u hate "hindus" for something very similar . Btw cow is their sky___ as well . Nothing is false equivalence here
What a collab! More of these please.
Why it feels like He is trying put words into Aladin's mouth
If any ex-muslim in India is becoming right leaning, the responsibility lies with the leftist. Because they never gave exmuslims any platform forcing them to move towards other camp. Being a leftist myself, it pains me a lot.
Being an exmuslim I agree with some points of the left and some points of the right , I am pro Israel and for limited immigration , I will also actively discriminate against Muslims who support slavery killing apostates
Exactly. Left stands with Islam or keeps quite when Islamists do problematic things. We don't have any choice other that going to right. We can only try to stop people from going far right and bring them close to center but leftists are not gonna solve these problems.
I mean Javed Akhtar is left leaning and ex Muslim.
What platform does ex Hindus, christans, jains , sikhs get in india.
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 javed akhtar is more of a liberal than leftist
In india, ex muslims are popping up because RW is in power and they know they can save their a$$ from islamic extremists by s*king to RW and spreading islamophobia.
The problem here is, minorities are conservative, they want their own islamic laws for some stuff and they pretend to be liberal, and left needs vote of whole muslim community (conservative and liberal) to stand a chance against BJP, I think once left gets strong enough electorally and the more atheism grows here, they will leave conservatives.
What can left do if the society itself is sh*t. This ongoing rhetoric of BJP has produced even more extremists on both sides.
Wow science is dope bro 😂😂 cant agree with you more if someone have different opinions in some issues they are right leaning what a logical
When the fuck did i say that?
Sheeeeh!
Secularism
Exactly. He thinks if anyone disagrees with him, he must be right leaning😂 just like people who criticize islam must hate muslims according to him
Just watched Tommy Robinson interview. Definitely a great individual.. better a human than these people and these people try to demonize him
Thats actually the point? If I am left and someone doesnt agree with my leftist views they are right leaning wrt to me? havent you ever been to school?
Bro you're absolutely right, u can see guys like aarif mohammed hussain down here in kerala and all those who work with a popular atheist community here called essence global headed by a Richard Dawkins like figure Mr Ravichandran, spread anti-muslim anti-reservation and tansphobic propaganda, anti-intellectualism and all the things that are at par with the alt-right groups we see prominently on the internet and unfortunately these are quite popular.
Richard Dawkins is a cultural Christian atheist. That idea itself is a red flag.
@DDRational_ Arguing about something, reacting to something, and expressing the views is not called racist hindutva. its called liberation and freedom of speech. why can't I react to alladin's video ? How is that racist if i express my views ? just like some other people are reacting to my comment. I am not against good human. good human can be from any community it doesn't matters. but i have freedom of speech and i will speak.
I think it's important to talk about the dangers of Islam and actually the dangers of any religious extremism.. as we see in India with the beef issues... with India, there is a lot of anti-Muslim sentiment online which is concerning.. Indians need to realize that you need to talk about the dangers of radicalization but you should never dehumanize an entire group of people.. with time, and a proper education and a healthy development of critical thinking skills.. I think all the harmful parts of religion should be phased out... naturally... I love India and I hope to see it prosper! Hopefully the country can become a true secular country and all people from all religions can create a unified identity.. I hope to see it happen! Never do anything through hate , only through love
Can a Muslim eat beef in a secular india ?
@@unknownme7177 exactly, that's what I was saying. India needs to be a true secular country... where religion is a personal issue and you have no right to impose your views onto others.. you can practice your religion as long as you're not hurting anyone... In a true secular society, a Muslim person can eat what they like
@@athinanethi7844 finally......
Exmuslim Sahil and Zafar Heretic exposes Islam in every video. They rarely discuss politics. Bring them and have healthy discussions.
No they spread hate against Muslims
The Collab i didn't expect
Such an unexpected collab. Love it !!
Im glad you brought on a more different atheist and ex Muslim angle, to many Indians and indian atheist lack critical thinking and tend to go more soft on religion in India, and only seem to grow some balls when it comes Hinduism and even that is limited, just because someone is right leaning, does not make their religious criticism less or wrong. However this is more in general to the scene in india and not your channel only , also you do more about science and rational thought which is also very necessary, my criticism is more for towards the channels that only focus on religion
🎉🎉Oh my god oh my god u 2 collabing 🎉🎉(i mean no god )
Oh my no god. 😉
As an Atheist I still need to find a good replacement expression. First item on the Atheist Agenda! 😂
❤❤❤keep it up good work. as a muslim i may not agree with him in all points but i'm happy to find a exmuslim with package of islamaphobia or aligning themself with the fascist right.
Aladdin is not always right but he is a cool dude. Thanks both for the video.
not cool
Nobody is always right, myself included 😅
Read Socially conservative atheists framework.
I was surprised to see that even Armin Navabi of The Atheist Republic is Islamophobic and pro-israel.
a lot of them just end up falling into the trap of money and clout, and end up as grifters.
translation : he is not a clueless leftist
Your obviously not educated and so missed the point of the video, also Armin unlike many of the ex Muslims, had to go throw truma linked to the religion and his Iranian background, hence he has a more emotional push back to, stop living in your imaginary high moral position
@@celestialsatheist1535 Standing up for unjust killing of people is clueless now?
It's not phobia,it is real threat, what happened to other faiths and civilization from north Africa to Turkey to Indonesia
Interesting talk.
Invent a word that's an oxymoron and force it into the narrative.
No thanks, I prefer reality.
The right and the left may have got Islam wrong, but between the two, the right seems to have the more realistic view ..
Glad to see you talk about Islamophobia. Religion has been a big problem in this world. People who hate others based on religion needs to be called out too.
Being ex Muslim.myself he just spoke what i felt. It was disturbing and confusing when we see lot of ExMuslim whom we thought rationalist are supporting Hindutva, Christian propogator, Zionism. I messaged few myself not support any of this for the sake of Humanity. I am truely happy ifound You and your guest being rational standing by the humanity. We are Athiets who refused dogmas, irrationalitional ideas from our life. we have found that being human in itself is enough to live. Thanks again 🙏
Well ex musmlim sahil Sameer Adam litterally all believes in different ideology but they all support ex muslims of any ideology whether he is interested in Christianity Hinduism atheism agnostism ok i doubt about Sameer cause he is pro hindutva guy
The fact that an ex Hindu can come out in the open on social media, while an ex-muslim has to hide his face behind a mask probably justfies Islamophobia dont you think ?
You should interview Exmuslims even if you feel they are right leaning. There should be dialogue between all camps. Cancel culture promotes eco-chambers.
I hate this Aladdin guy and his holier than thou attitude. He is just jealous of other ex-muslims.
I don’t get that impression from him at all wdym
I agree with AP on this but anyone has a right to cristice anyone and nobody is a bad person because of it.
But you dont show this same aoft corner for Hindus. You can critisize weird practices in Hinduism but you do support people who attack Hindus themselves too? Why not use the same analogy as this video while dealing with Hinduism and Hindus? Why do you have to make 10 disclaimers before criticizing Islam? And that methodology is not followed when dealing with Hinduism and Hindus?
Or is it your hidden problem is that most ex-muslims are generally right leaning?
Instead of putting all the blame on others maybe even introspect a bit?
Who did he support who attacks hindus ?
Abey tujhe abhi knowledge ki jarurat beth gya h podcast karen Sikh abhi tu
Hey Pranav invite Kushal Mehra too.
He wrote a book "Nastik..."
He tends not to like those that are seen to be RW and so doubt he will , that's the trouble with India and it's atheist, many want a soft spot for Islam as they see them as a minority and make the message weak
@@Killa_3 "See" them as minority? Sir, they ARE a minority.
@@lasyak6355 not small minority
@@raghavnamasivayam8706 IF hindus were 51% and muslims were 49% of the population, muslims will still be a minority. Tf you mean not small minority? They are 14% of the population compared to 80% of hindus. You guys outnumber them by 5.7 times. They are a small minority compared to you guys.
@@lasyak6355 yes given the large population of India, and still there are the biggest minority with other groups not getting as much sympathy for their religion, and even if they were a minority does not mean that the religion gets a pass, 200 million plus Muslims is more then most countries population, and the more ignorant views like this are kept the more hard line anti Islam stances other will need to take
Very well explained ❤❤❤❤❤👌🙏
From saying any junk food is healthy as natural foods to supporting israel is islamophobic those rational youtiber claims he's rational when he knows nothing this guy should stop making videos about things he doesn't know
Cute cat
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Bro can u expose sarbajeet mohanty from Ghost encounters(pairs) some day
Hes been on beerbiceps lol
ALL RELIGIONS ARE SAME ,THREAT TO HUMANITY.
Can't even show his face !!😂
Do you have a problem with that??
@@Bloodwolf1472 Yes he should reveal his identity if he truly believes what he's espousing otherwise he's doing it for the sake of clicks.
@@jammRJ Not every exmuslims can reveal their identity coz ex muslims may fear death threats to their family coming from hardcore islamist and ISIS terrorist
@@jammRJ I mean first put your pic on dp or are you doing this for just likes.
@@booksanimeenthusiast3802 I do have it on my profile . You can't see ?
There are 2 sides of Islam. one is religious side another is political. The political Islam enforces the people their idelogy want want to conquer/conquest their land.
Here Alladin is only talking about religious Islam. Muslims are doing politics all the time that why they get critised all the time. if someone puts his hands in fire of course it will burn the hand. Doing politics and not getting accused for anything this cannot happen at the same time.
Alladin is either not understanding or not wanting to understand about political Islam. Maybe he is or he is not getting any benefit from it. hey mr. Alladin if someone gets involve in politics they will get critisized its that simple. Most muslims are politicians either directly or indirectly. Most muslim wants to establish sharia laws in other's countries, that's why islamophobia exists.
Fir se generalization bohot Sara adhe log kon hai politics main
@@Madara456 In Quran and Hadiths there is clearly written to do politics against non-muslims. I am not generalizing it. I am telling according to the Quran and Hadiths. That's what Quran says not me. its Qurans opinion its not my personal opinion.
@@ashokpandey8748 ok tell me the exact page and number
@daria_morgendorfer ok by by
@daria_morgendorfer isn't in quran its written to fight against infedials ? first of all called others kafirs , the word itself is the racist here. non believers are the worst of creatures and they will be locked into hell for eternities.. isn't this what quran and hadiths says ? am i wrong . correct me if i am wrong
Good work Bro👍
You don't need to be Islamophobic to support Israel. There are valid arguments to support Israel other than Islamophobia.
This is like saying anyone who speaks against casteism is hinduphobic
I havent said anywhere that supporting israel automatically means you're islamophobic. Please don't twist my words
@@DDRational_ RR i really respect you i have been watching you since 50k sub and this man baby you have invitied is a attention seeking clown
And may can u please present those valid arguments?? Other than "7th October saaarrr, 7th October" coz Israel has been sh!tting on Palestinians for a very long time, 7th October was wrong, but ignoring what Israel did to Palestinians before 7th October and what Israel's been doing after 7th October is being ignored.
@@DDRational_ You said a motivational factor for ex Muslims supporting Israel is just to oppose whatever muslims support. If that is true by definition that is textbook Islamophobia.
@@art_obbyif you're gonna go by Primacy of Arrival argument, Jews were there long before the Ottoman Empire.
And after the Ottoman Empire it is the British Mandate of Palestine. There did not exist a country called Palestine ever.
But of course I bet you're a Hamas Piker fan
People should stop trivializing the problem to insert their radicalized ideas on rhis matter. Thus stupidity will lead humanity to the next WW.
Awww so much love for Islam...🙈
who tf here loves islam? No one. Hating a religion doesn't mean you have to hate it's people.
Great video....
please bhaiya accent thoda soft rakho its sounds sterotypes
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Really, this guy?
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He’s cool
Its been months since AP made that 'harsh' video and he is still using it in his argument to gross generalise others. My man takes holier than thou, virute signalling to level a mortal can only dream of.
I hated this discussion... Pranav, I will be under your bedsheets.
really this blok ?.
Yeah, have a problem?
I’m Palestinian Christian Christ is Lord🔥
@user-jt8vj1vm6y 😐
You need to stop corrupting aladdin with ur leftie nonsense.
can you elaborate?
@@DDRational_ Damn, no job only. Replying to random comments.
@@Blazee2897 I too was curious to know what leftie nonsense you are talking about. But your response here clearly proves you don't even know the meaning of the Left.
Oh my my..This self-righteous guy, seriously! 🤦 Pranav don't nod to everything what he is saying! Instead of being critical of Islam like other religions as an atheist, it seems like you are trying to normalise it a bit..Talk about the major issues (like immigration crisis in brief) that are happening in Europe..Otherwise you are going nowhere with these types of silly conversations..
Where does it seem that way? I am as critical of Islam as of other religions. And how is immigration an issue of the ideology of Islam?
Ohh, it seems like there is no relation between Islamic immigration and the present Europe becoming upside down..Thanks man, you've opened my eyes 👍 You are a real blind atheist Islam wants to play their number games...
Your criticism is that they are talking about different issues rather than what you want them to talk about?
@@DDRational_ Yeah immigration crisis has nothing to do with Islam in Europe..Thanks for being supportive of Islam.. You'll definitely go to jannat, my dear 🤗
@@nikhilkk3786
PRANAV: How is immigration an issue of the IDEOLOGY of islam
NIKHIL: *strawmanning the question from ideology of the religion to people of the religion*
The crisis has nothing to do with the IDEOLOGY of islam. It is just muslims migrating. Sure, you can say it's a problem but that problem has nothing to do with the religion itself. The problem involves the people not the ideology.
Indian accent turns a serious conversation to a laugh riot. They have to enunciate every T's and D's.
😂😂
@@DDRational_Not all religions are alike.
There are those of us who stand for modern western values, rationalism, tolerance for atheists and other minorities, free expression,open society etc
In the Israel/ Palestine issue, as it is with Ukraine/Russia issue, the sides are clear.
When the broken body Shani Louk was brought into Gaza on a truck by Hamas, half naked because she was at a dance festival, Gazan civlians danced around it, and a child in the video spit on her body. When was the last time a large pubic population in the West celebrated the murder, rape and desecration of a woman like that?
No one is owed a country, ESPECIALLY if those who want the country are explicit about their hatred of you, and their intention to murder your people.
So you stand against palestine because of hamas? The same hamas that even palestinians speak against even when isreal is attacking non hamas occupied areas of palestine? There is death on both sides but if you can't see that one side is basically unarmed then there is no point in trying to talk to you.
Then even Israel isn't owed a country, right? So, why support them? This is some Zionist level propaganda you're spewing here by dehumanizing people of Palestine as those with "explicit intention of murdering you" or whatever.
Learn some empathy.
another victim of propaganda i see
@@abc-pw5ff
This is completely wrong
1. Hamas has wide support in the population as multiple polls have shown.
2. Hamas was elected by popular vote exactly a few months after Israel left Gaza, and at that time their charter explicitly said “we will kill ALL JEWS”. Gazans voted for them knowing that they will commit terror attacks
What “unarmed”, are you serious? they stole aid money to build tunnels, attacked Israeli civilians with 1000s of rockets, They’re equipped with Kalashnikovs
Just admit you’re buying into dumb anti-Israel logic from leftists for whom everyone who opposes the west is a victim and a hero, from Pol Pot to Hamas
Lot of folks here is saying Islamophobia means just fear of religion of Islam and not “being muslimosphobic”. Its an etymological fallacy.
Islamophobia by modern definition means hatred against muslims.Just like anti semetism means hatred against jews, but not against arabs, eventhough arabs are also semitic people.
This has been a common fallacy that is beingused extensively by many ignorant people out there, especially by many right wing bigots.
Not everyone thinks like this 😂 Islamophobic means fear of islam.
But you don’t see how grouping the fear of Islam or criticism of it and actual racism as toxic?
@@Chalshanaban007no Islamophobia doesnt mean just fear of Islam, it includes prejudice and hatred against muslims. Thats the whole point.
The word Islamophobia has a meaning today and it is not its exact etymological meaning.
@@hassimnaseef Nah. Its just answer to kafirophobia that allah has. People hate muslims because muslims hate people and not vice versa
This dude, Really? 😂
That's a heavy indian accent
first comment.