@@AceTechHD the medium of which you are communicating an idea (digitally, on an instrument, vocally, etc) does not ultimately affect how possibly good a piece of music can sound. It's all about how you use those mediums as a way to express your message that counts. And obviously, this robot is incapable of communicating a message with emotions or soul. I'm sure they could program it to sound more realistic though
All this machinery Making modern music Can still be open-hearted Not so coldly charted It's really just a question Of your honesty, yeah your honesty - Rush, 1980
StefanL101 Well, not really sight-reading. They used the MIDI transcription of the original solo. I agree that people should give Coltron a break ! It is a technical challenge before all.
Why is everybody in the comments a damn conspiracy theorist can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that somebody invented a robot to play giant steps?
@@alamooji3716 yeah sure most jazz musicians at the time were on narcotics but Charlie parker was constantly on heroin that was the cause of his death in 55 from pneumonia stemming from term substance abuse, but in 36 Parker played at a jam session at the Reno Club in Kansas City that's wear he had drank a quart of whiskey and been on heroin 30 minutes before Ron Russel had to physically support Charlie so he could finish the final track of the piece
Cläyton Higbie John Coltrane was literally forced into a room to detox by his mom and (I believe) wife. After he detoxed that’s when his atonal phase of playing really became his thing
Coltrane playing "Giant Steps"= One of the greatest moments in the history of music. A student musician playing an exact transcription = An excerise in extraordinary difficult music preformed in order to gain insight into the mind of a genius. Coltrane by a robot = A really f---ing cool engineering challenge that requires prodigous skill on the part of the designers and creators.
Bah, this is by no means the first robot egineered to play Jazz badly. The various models of MIT's Kenny program played it both earlier and worse. Their first fully functioning prototype was Kenny G, after the failures of Kenny's A through F.
No one is trying to upstage john coltrane. This is a technical exercise in robotics, and it's fantastic. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, and don't listen to the idiots.
Victor Huynh I think they have used the MIDI transcribed version of the original solo (easy to find), so it s no surprise it sounds like midi. The real challenge was to manage to have some articulation, decent pitch (although not perfect) and some glissando. etc.. Check out the faster version as well.
Nothing can replace the talent of a man who practiced 8-10 hours a day who could barrel through hundreds of choruses of self written tunes night after night with spontanious brilliance.
This is brilliant!! My ex-wife was a classical pianist, and yes, SOMETIMES music IS a technical exercise. And I love Coltrane and Davis et al as well as play trumpet, drums, keyboards and flute. This robot is technically better than most musicians I know. Though of course it takes a 'real' human to inject 'soul'. MAybe the next generation of robots will be able to do that too... Thanks for the posting.
Oh man, I was at this gig. It was killin'; blew me away. I've even had the honour of doing a few gigs with this guy since then. He's one badass cat; really found his own voice on his instrument too.
First time I saw this video in an email, what I appreciated about it apart from the Technology genius is that I could "hear" the Chord changes in the passages and heard the notes in the solo clean enough to conceive new approaches to this song. Musically and technologically speaking I think this video is a huge contribution. Thanks for sharing nicofarr!
Goes to show how important the dynamics of the lines are :) I do appreciate the effort that was made to do this as a jazz musician and a technologist. It is a testimony to Coltrane's greatness. This makes it clear to everyone.
I think a lot of people are failing to see how incredible this is. Not because a machine plays saxophone but because someone had to transcribe the solo and program that thing to play. THAT is impressive.
Okay, how about I know several musicians, world class, who're brilliant, and I adore live music by real human beings: it's magical. My ex. is a fully trained Classical pianist too. To a very high standard. I LOVE music. I also play drums, bits of keyboards, flute, bass, and Trumpet. My heroes from 14 have been Miles Davis and Coltrane. Yet this 'robot'/programmer is EXCELLENT, and certainly better technically than myself (and most musicians I know ;-0)
I both a play the alto sax and am on my high school robotics team. It's really actually not that difficult to make a machine like this. It is just 10 different levers on motors that are pre programmed to press the keys. I bet most high school robotics students could build something like this. The whole thing was pre programmed on a computer, entered in the exact sequence of the actual song (the fingering combinations, the note lengths, etc). It's not like the robot can actually read sheet music and play from it. If that was possible today, it would be truly impressive (and scary).
Imagine the possibilities if they actually got this to sound like the real thing, making it almost impossible to tell the difference, and then add some holograms and a full band and you could seemingly go back in time to the recording session that happened over 50 years ago! I wish
I've been trying to learn the exact sax solo from Coltrane's original recording on guitar. Its very hard. I've been working on it for a few months and I've only got the first page down, but its perfect. Its like trying to climb Mount Everest. I'll probably post it if I ever finish.
Sorry for my terrible English. it seems most of comments were written by uneducated people or artsy dick heads. Listen, robot, humanoid engineering, development is for humans. If you can make this robot play pitch bend, it means you could know about human organs deeper, then the acknowledge, technology might be able to be diverted for injured, handicapped people. Now Japan, US, France, Germany, these countries are proceeding of robot engineering. These nations don't be afraid of fail even though the other nations' people ridicule them. That's why these nations still can be developing further than the others despite they are already called ' developed country ' because they know how important those technology is. One more thing, have you copied or analyzed Giant Steps or the other Coltrane changes' solo by Coltrane himself ? Giant steps , Countdown, 26-2 etc, these tunes are very challenging ,but I love them to listen, to play. Then you know whose solo is the most systematic, robotic approach? Actually Coltrane's solo itself is the most like that. In my opinion, his solos of them sound like etude. For me these tunes are very creative, but his solos are far from creative.
Have to say... Amazing feat to put a robot to play somthing so complex (No point to discuss how well it played)... An awesome work and all that... But I think I still prefer Trane's way =)
A soul-less monotonous robotic interpretation of a beautiful man-made soulful creation. Robots will never be able to replicate true human passion or jazz.
Regardless of whether its more about the music or the engineering it is still a great homage to the master and a lovely, very elaborate display of our ability to manipulate our environment.
Damn. I've tried for almost a YEAR to do this solo, but after failing I don't know how many times, a robot gets it! Holy sh*t that's impressive! One Problem though, I bet that this machine can only play one song. Oh well. Can't wait to more submissions!
What an amazing feat of engineering! I think the vibrato and dynamics need a bit of tweaking. The vibrato could be a bit more pronounced. Perhaps the airflow should be programmed to get stronger and weaker (crescendo, decrescendo). I'd also like to hear a bit more vibrato during the 16th note licks and on notes that are held in between. It might give it more color. Still, an absolutely amazing achievement. Robots can play jazz. They just need to be taught like anyone else. Kudos.
Great technical performance! Don't try any useless comparison with a human being playing Coltrane's solo, it's just mechanics and fun! Congratulations to Nicofarr.Marc Ueter from Switzerland
hahah this is so fricking cool. i get goosebumps any time anyone plays those first notes after the head in coltranes run. this suprising still gave me goosbumps. that robots got monster chops
Please tell me, WHERE IS THE SOUL. If you take the original recording of John Coltrane playing this, he just adds, a kind of soul, only found in the greatest of Jazz. Music is my life, my passion, and this just does not do it for me...
Man you guys need to chill the crap out, this is pretty cool. It sounds nothing close to how beautifully Coltrane played it, but it's pretty amazing that they could do this. Also, the idea wasn't for it to improvise, it's transcribing what Coltrane played perfectly. Nice work dudes, this is cool and I'm not afraid musicians will ever be replaced by something like this, as that almost certainly is not the hope of the scientists that made this.
testament to the effects of coltrane addiction, whoever did this should win some sort of prize..how does the robot breeze so nicely into the mouthpiece?
@deadithink what you don't get, because you've never heard giant steps played at a session, is that this is less "mechanical sounding" than most horn player's on this song. we're so used to this kind of 3rd hand "in the head" jazz by the numbers playing. i'll bet if you mixed in the original rhythm section, no one would be able to tell it was played by a machine. they'd guess "oh, that's....... "..(.fill in the blank).
Remember the Yamaha Disklavier that came out a few years ago that's presently past it's novelty? Well, this is what we can expect at the malls and hotels in the near future. Like all novelties, it'll come and go.
got the groove of a robot too, not to mention the whirring motor noise, yeap sounds like a robot. good to know humans are still useful for something...soul!
It's John coltron!
LOL
Hahahaha that made my day
Bro, that killed me lmao
lmao
Wow. Great job 👏 :3
that robot needs to practice more
It's so weird hearing this played by a bot. Kinda redefines "cold and unfeeling"
Right? This rubs me the wrong way, kinda cool but eh.
Tyler Sai Cold and unfeeling. Describes most digital music being made today.
@@AceTechHD you can still have feeling in computed music. It is the writing that counts
@@AceTechHD the medium of which you are communicating an idea (digitally, on an instrument, vocally, etc) does not ultimately affect how possibly good a piece of music can sound. It's all about how you use those mediums as a way to express your message that counts. And obviously, this robot is incapable of communicating a message with emotions or soul. I'm sure they could program it to sound more realistic though
All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It's really just a question
Of your honesty, yeah your honesty
- Rush, 1980
Give the robot a break... the damn thing is sight-reading this. It's not exactly a ballad.
StefanL101 Well, not really sight-reading. They used the MIDI transcription of the original solo. I agree that people should give Coltron a break ! It is a technical challenge before all.
StefanL101 LOL..sight reading...
+ Nicolas Farrugia Coltron... I love that hahaha.
LOL!!! I know, sight reading's a bitch.
Nicolas Farrugia he's joking
What is my purpose?
You play Giant Steps
o h m y g o d
Then, My Creator, that is a worthy purpose.
Robot: *sweating profusely*
@@alastairmunro5144 I was not expecting to find these references in a giant steps robot video.
Even though its a real saxophone, it sounds like a synthesizer.
Constant and perfect air flow makes every note equal
A feature that distinguishes it from a lower-grade MIDI sound is the key noises. :)
This is how an organ with a sax setup would sound like.
I can see a robot jazz band in a Japanese club now.....
Never😂
Called cantina Band
Why is everybody in the comments a damn conspiracy theorist can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that somebody invented a robot to play giant steps?
I doing see one conspiracy theory though lmfao
Michael Yachnis well he tried very hard on this, harder on this than you ever will on life
Tony Z ouch
@@SwingAxleLover You appreciate the work behind this. It’s just a proof of concept.
@@tonytonychopper999 No I just have an irrational hatred of robots. No problem with the man.
Looks like none of the other robots showed up to hear him play. Sad...just sad.
Sirvalorsax!
I used to be a toaster! today I'm a saxophone player!!!! :)
what changed
@@joeychik3208 wooosh
@@marselmusic you're the one who missed the joke lmao
@@marselmusic you got wooosh'd
I can't even remember leaving this comment lol @@rohanraju8578
Must have gone to Berklee.
Yeah, but can it do a bunch of heroin and still finish the gig?
That was Charlie Parker not John Coltrane
@@cliffjump71 That was neither John Coltrain nor John Coltrane
@@cliffjump71 stop watching movies bro it was Coltrane as well... Alot of substances around that scene at the time
@@alamooji3716 yeah sure most jazz musicians at the time were on narcotics but Charlie parker was constantly on heroin that was the cause of his death in 55 from pneumonia stemming from term substance abuse, but in 36 Parker played at a jam session at the Reno Club in Kansas City that's wear he had drank a quart of whiskey and been on heroin 30 minutes before Ron Russel had to physically support Charlie so he could finish the final track of the piece
Cläyton Higbie John Coltrane was literally forced into a room to detox by his mom and (I believe) wife. After he detoxed that’s when his atonal phase of playing really became his thing
I think I've played with that guy!
Vincent LaVorgna haha ! :) Really, or metaphorically ? ;)
Vincent LaVorgna you mean metalphorically?
Yeah, everyone has played with this guy at one point in their life
Yeah i use to beat on him when i was a kid with wooden spoons as a drumstick
the point isn't for it to sound good, it's that a robot can play giant steps. it's really cool
it knows just to modes: on-off
I never thought youtube would still have a video that's 17 years from now
Coltrane playing "Giant Steps"= One of the greatest moments in the history of music. A student musician playing an exact transcription = An excerise in extraordinary difficult music preformed in order to gain insight into the mind of a genius. Coltrane by a robot = A really f---ing cool engineering challenge that requires prodigous skill on the part of the designers and creators.
Bah, this is by no means the first robot egineered to play Jazz badly.
The various models of MIT's Kenny program played it both earlier and worse.
Their first fully functioning prototype was Kenny G, after the failures of Kenny's A through F.
Lol
That was funny
ESHAY BAH
No one is trying to upstage john coltrane.
This is a technical exercise in robotics, and it's fantastic. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, and don't listen to the idiots.
it still sounds like midi
Victor Huynh I think they have used the MIDI transcribed version of the original solo (easy to find), so it s no surprise it sounds like midi. The real challenge was to manage to have some articulation, decent pitch (although not perfect) and some glissando. etc.. Check out the faster version as well.
No dynamics? How could they?
Because making a robot that plays giant steps is hard enough as it is
Nothing can replace the talent of a man who practiced 8-10 hours a day who could barrel through hundreds of choruses of self written tunes night after night with spontanious brilliance.
Hi you mean we need to practice 8 hours 10 hours …. In order to play music ? at that level …. Just learning piano
Now make Roboflanagan
You say that like Flanagan doesn't sound robotic in his solo on the original track.
This is brilliant!! My ex-wife was a classical pianist, and yes, SOMETIMES music IS a technical exercise. And I love Coltrane and Davis et al as well as play trumpet, drums, keyboards and flute. This robot is technically better than most musicians I know. Though of course it takes a 'real' human to inject 'soul'. MAybe the next generation of robots will be able to do that too... Thanks for the posting.
oh hey there's the coltrane soundfont i was looking for
This rubs me the wrong way....
JACMIC23 blog it
Great articulation!!
Sounds like the Berklee practice rooms when I was there...
Truely a powerful perfomance.
Electrical indeed!
It has no soul! Coltrane was a technical monster but also put feeling into the music.
"I'll learn to work the saxophone / I - I'll play just what I feel ..." Well, I guess so.
DRINK SCOTCH WHISKY ALLL NIGHT LONG
AND DIIIEEE BEHIIIIND THE WHEEEEL
Oh man, I was at this gig. It was killin'; blew me away. I've even had the honour of doing a few gigs with this guy since then. He's one badass cat; really found his own voice on his instrument too.
Sounds like Bill Clinton!
ouch
Bill clinton was a good player, he couldve played in a band and got rich
I wish he wouldve...
They were filled with tenor players shedding Trane and Brecker licks, but sounding mechanical still (they were students, after all).
First time I saw this video in an email, what I appreciated about it apart from the Technology genius is that I could "hear" the Chord changes in the passages and heard the notes in the solo clean enough to conceive new approaches to this song. Musically and technologically speaking I think this video is a huge contribution. Thanks for sharing nicofarr!
Go Coltron! Probably one of the few things in the world that can play that solo!
now all he needs is a drum machine and a TB-303 to play the bass
it sounds so empty, its just a robot mak8ng noise, no actual music
(That's exactly what it is)
Robots can’t portray the emotion and soul that goes into jazz music. Also, the tone doesn’t sound the best either. It is pretty impressive though.
wait a couple of years my friend
still better than the 99% of saxplayers
@@odevsgojira The rapid key movement is impressive, but the tone isn't very good
My band director always tells us never to play on, "autopilot". THIS is taking that phrase to a whole new level....
Client Steps : Not responding
*if you close the program, you may lose information*
Goes to show how important the dynamics of the lines are :) I do appreciate the effort that was made to do this as a jazz musician and a technologist. It is a testimony to Coltrane's greatness. This makes it clear to everyone.
Not quite my tempo.
bad meme
😂👋
That's not my FUCKING TEMPO!!
Not okay this is NOT caravan lol
I think a lot of people are failing to see how incredible this is. Not because a machine plays saxophone but because someone had to transcribe the solo and program that thing to play. THAT is impressive.
How does a robot get to Carnegie Hall? Oil, Oil, Oil!!!
I think I played a jam session with this guy. A few times...
So Roomba, R2D2, and two car assembling robots walk into The Blue Note...
It's like you gave some 10 year old a sax for a few months and all the technique he could ever want, but literally NOTHING else. I love it
Sorry, robot. It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that swing!
reverb508 LOL
Sounds like an EWI (electronic wind instrument) to me, especially in the vibrato on the final note.
IT'S DESTROYING MUSICIANS AND PUTTING THEM OUT OF WORK!!!
AUTOMATION! AAAAAHHHHHHHH!
Yeah, if you like no emotion or skill involved in your music at all this is amazing
Yes! What a player! I'm gonna try to get him in my band, incredible stage presence!
can robots squeak?
Okay, how about I know several musicians, world class, who're brilliant, and I adore live music by real human beings: it's magical. My ex. is a fully trained Classical pianist too. To a very high standard. I LOVE music. I also play drums, bits of keyboards, flute, bass, and Trumpet. My heroes from 14 have been Miles Davis and Coltrane. Yet this 'robot'/programmer is EXCELLENT, and certainly better technically than myself (and most musicians I know ;-0)
ouch! intonation in the upper registers is really off. they need to program more air support for higher notes
You have no idea how programming works do you
Giant steps is so hard to solo on, even robots made mistakes
This is a song that is great
But it just does not have the feeling or emotion too go with the song and just no idk just kinda does not feel right
TreverASH Wait what my name is Trevor and everyone always spells it Trever but look at this shit a person actually named Trever that’s sick
No way! Maybe because it's a fucking robot
great work! can't wait to see an entire band playing. keep up the great work.
am i the only one thats kinda scared that this is even possible?!
Aligael Gutierrez Yes. The robot sounded terrible...
I both a play the alto sax and am on my high school robotics team. It's really actually not that difficult to make a machine like this. It is just 10 different levers on motors that are pre programmed to press the keys. I bet most high school robotics students could build something like this. The whole thing was pre programmed on a computer, entered in the exact sequence of the actual song (the fingering combinations, the note lengths, etc). It's not like the robot can actually read sheet music and play from it. If that was possible today, it would be truly impressive (and scary).
Oh man, this robot is putting so much emotion into this solo, can't you feel it!!!
The people out there who are complaining about the robot can actually play giant steps better on the Tenor Sax
This robot is playing with so much emotion!!!!
'...The Farce is strong with this one..'
Imagine the possibilities if they actually got this to sound like the real thing, making it almost impossible to tell the difference, and then add some holograms and a full band and you could seemingly go back in time to the recording session that happened over 50 years ago! I wish
I felt nothing, and I mean nothing from this
I've been trying to learn the exact sax solo from Coltrane's original recording on guitar. Its very hard. I've been working on it for a few months and I've only got the first page down, but its perfect. Its like trying to climb Mount Everest. I'll probably post it if I ever finish.
feel like i want to retire play sax
THE VIBRATO ON THE LAST NOTE 😂
Sorry for my terrible English. it seems most of comments were written by uneducated people or artsy dick heads.
Listen, robot, humanoid engineering, development is for humans. If you can make this robot play pitch bend, it means you could know about human organs deeper, then the acknowledge, technology might be able to be diverted for injured, handicapped people. Now Japan, US, France, Germany, these countries are proceeding of robot engineering. These nations don't be afraid of fail even though the other nations' people ridicule them. That's why these nations still can be developing further than the others despite they are already called ' developed country ' because they know how important those technology is.
One more thing, have you copied or analyzed Giant Steps or the other Coltrane changes' solo by Coltrane himself ?
Giant steps , Countdown, 26-2 etc, these tunes are very challenging ,but I love them to listen, to play.
Then you know whose solo is the most systematic, robotic approach? Actually Coltrane's solo itself is the most like that.
In my opinion, his solos of them sound like etude. For me these tunes are very creative, but his solos are far from creative.
Your opinion isn't worth shit. Go away.
Have to say... Amazing feat to put a robot to play somthing so complex (No point to discuss how well it played)... An awesome work and all that... But I think I still prefer Trane's way =)
NO NO NO NO!
A soul-less monotonous robotic interpretation of a beautiful man-made soulful creation. Robots will never be able to replicate true human passion or jazz.
The solo's phrasing is horrible
Regardless of whether its more about the music or the engineering it is still a great homage to the master and a lovely, very elaborate display of our ability to manipulate our environment.
What an amazing accomplishment!! And a great illustration of the difference between man and machine.
Damn. I've tried for almost a YEAR to do this solo, but after failing I don't know how many times, a robot gets it! Holy sh*t that's impressive! One Problem though, I bet that this machine can only play one song. Oh well. Can't wait to more submissions!
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Look at this as a work of genius. It not meant to replace a musician. Is an expression of creativity and it won't take the job of a musician.
With some minor tweaking this could be the best vst ever. Impressive!
What an amazing feat of engineering! I think the vibrato and dynamics need a bit of tweaking. The vibrato could be a bit more pronounced. Perhaps the airflow should be programmed to get stronger and weaker (crescendo, decrescendo). I'd also like to hear a bit more vibrato during the 16th note licks and on notes that are held in between. It might give it more color. Still, an absolutely amazing achievement. Robots can play jazz. They just need to be taught like anyone else. Kudos.
I love how the end just randomly has vibrato. gotta save the best for the last lmao. this is hilarious yet insane.
Great technical performance! Don't try any useless comparison with a human being playing Coltrane's solo, it's just mechanics and fun! Congratulations to Nicofarr.Marc Ueter from Switzerland
It was different but like woah! That’s awesome! Rock on!
Danger Will Robinson! Danger!
Nice! this is a great video. i used it to demonstrate what playing without dynamics, style and feeling sounds like to my students.
hahah this is so fricking cool. i get goosebumps any time anyone plays those first notes after the head in coltranes run. this suprising still gave me goosbumps. that robots got monster chops
It may not be jazz, but it's modern art at its finest.
Please tell me, WHERE IS THE SOUL. If you take the original recording of John Coltrane playing this, he just adds, a kind of soul, only found in the greatest of Jazz.
Music is my life, my passion, and this just does not do it for me...
it's 18 years later and i'd like to know what Coltron has been up to.
Yes. Playing the same notes exactly, yet so different. Music is an amazing human trait... Lucky to be born as a human.
Man you guys need to chill the crap out, this is pretty cool. It sounds nothing close to how beautifully Coltrane played it, but it's pretty amazing that they could do this. Also, the idea wasn't for it to improvise, it's transcribing what Coltrane played perfectly. Nice work dudes, this is cool and I'm not afraid musicians will ever be replaced by something like this, as that almost certainly is not the hope of the scientists that made this.
Beautiful.
testament to the effects of coltrane addiction, whoever did this should win some sort of prize..how does the robot breeze so nicely into the mouthpiece?
The lack of feeling if this just proves that the music comes from the soul.
@deadithink what you don't get, because you've never heard giant steps played at a session, is that this is less "mechanical sounding" than most horn player's on this song. we're so used to this kind of 3rd hand "in the head" jazz by the numbers playing. i'll bet if you mixed in the original rhythm section, no one would be able to tell it was played by a machine. they'd guess "oh, that's....... "..(.fill in the blank).
Of course it's not the most soulful interpretation, but that's not really the point everybody! This is amazing!
Remember the Yamaha Disklavier that came out a few years ago that's presently past it's novelty? Well, this is what we can expect at the malls and hotels in the near future. Like all novelties, it'll come and go.
this is pretty cool. It actually actually has an alright tone. Nice and bright, but clear
:D
got the groove of a robot too, not to mention the whirring motor noise, yeap sounds like a robot.
good to know humans are still useful for something...soul!
I have developed robot heroin for your jazz machine.
That, is hilarious! Just makes you wonder what other kind of funny robots there are out there...
It can blow, but it ain't got the heart and soul that made John Coltrane a genius.