Even though Taejong was ruthless, cunning, and violent to win the throne, he was an effective ruler and made several changes to policy that improved the lives of Koreans.
Much like his grandson Sejo to be honest (though Sejo really didn’t go as far as he should have; Taejong didn’t make that mistake) In fact, pretty much all the Joseon kings up until Yejong knew what they were doing, even Danjong (he may have been young but he wasn’t an idiot, his uncle just beat him to the punch).
Thoroughly enjoyed roots of the throne. Learnt alot about korean history. Bangwon was ruthless in his own way yet he proved to be a dam good king. Waiting to watch tears of bangwon.
I really wish that you mentioned Jeond do Jeon's reforms while u were talking about Yi Bong Won's achievment. Because they were bacially Jeong do jeon's ideas
I'm currently watching KBS yi bang won and its currently airing, I hope they will not go on "cutesy route" like what they did dirty to historical series " Secret Door" where they try so hard to avoid to tarnish the 'prince charming' image of male lead actor. I want to see the male lead in yi bang won to berserk and be faithful to history and not disneyfied his character because he is a prince.
Yi bang won must have been quite the forceful and domineering persona . After all , he was the 5th oldest, and younger brother of 4. He assassinated and banished his older brothers . Lets just say , his actions were a bit disrespectful to those he should have been subservient and defer to. And I should also mention , he was a bit disrespectful to pops' wishes. It is an irony of Asian and confuscianist etiquette that king Tae jo founded a long term dynasty by illegitimate means. many of you will be offended by my use of the word "illegitimate." After all he used assassinations and illegal means to gain control.
@@loveaintfree1409Those killings made him hate his once-favourite son so much that he even started a war in his old age to get his son off the throne. Unfortunately for him his son was every bit as millitant as he once was, much younger, and FAR more politically savvy.
@@emamadra3472 So much of Sejong’s successes (including the actual throne itself) were only possible because his father rather brutally cleared away any serious threats he might have to face.
Early Joseon history seems so much more interesting and intriguing than its later history. Whereas we had princely rivalry, civil wars, absolute kings and a lot of dynamism in the early days, the later centuries simply feel insufferable with dogmatic officials arguing over petty practices and a lot of factional infighting. I hope you one day make a video about this. Why did Joseon politics change so much?
Blame Sejo (who was actually a decent king in and of himself, but his own violent means of getting the throne left the gates open for corruption in the Joseon bureaucracy and weakening of monarchic power once he bit it, because of all the power gained by the officials who helped his coup and outlived him). Taejong must have been rolling in his grave at seeing his grandson screw up like that; he avoided the same mistakes by purging his own former supporters once they started getting too ambitious (which was why he had his in-laws executed).
Do You have any information about the Famous Chinese Linguist that Sejong's Language Study Committee Sought Advice from "BEFORE" the Invention of Hangeul???
A fascinating king, though he's definitely not someone if I knew him irl would not want a drink with. But a fascinating person nonetheless. Some westerners comment about Taejong being like Michael Corleone actually fits SO well btw. Taejong and MIchael Corleone similarities: Both have backgrounds that were not mainstream in their society at the time, yet still retained some power in that minority community: Just like the Corleone family built by Don Vito, Yi Sung-Gye (Taejo) built his own political power with the northeast as his base, family was originally a subject of the Mongols, and had close relations w some Jurchens as well (like their subordinate Yi Ji Ran, whose original name was said to be something like "Tung Du-ran"). And were outsiders to the central literati in Gaegyung at the time. Both Michael and Taejong were also the first ones to enter the "mainstream" in some ways - Michael went to Dartmouth, and fought in WW2, showing how Vito wanted at least one of his sons to join "mainstream" American elite. Just like Michael, Taejong (or Yi Bang Won as he was known) was the first in his family to pass the prestigious civil service exams. Michael's killin go fthe corrupt cop and also the revenge against the 5 families is a LOOOT like alll the killings Yi Bang Won did for his father to take over Joseon, including the daring murder of Jeong Mong Ju. And his fallout with Jeong Do Jeon mirrors the fallout between Tom Hagen and Michael And his relationship w/ the 3rd brother of the family (Bangwon was the 4th oldest) during the 2nd Princes' Revolt is a LOOOT like Fredo-Michael scenes in Godfather 2 lmao
@@loonytricky There's a reason why there's memes about 킬방원 lololol. And his ruthless killing of his in-laws is just honestly kind of sociopathic even though I understand *why* he did it. Esp. the Min brothers, his brothers in law - he literally knew them for a long long time, and his wife & her family were big supporters of his in youth, and iirc even Yangnyung as a child was raised alongside the Min family. Such a ruthless mofo lmao. But then again b/c he did that he was able to secure the throne to Sejong even though Sejong was the 3rd son without much fuss and let Sejong do his thing. ALso fascinating is comparisons with him and his contemporary, Emperor Yongle aka Zhu Di, who also was in a similar position as Yi Bangwon when he was the Prince of Yan, as he was considered as one of the most capable among Zhu Yuanzhang aka Hongwu Emperor's sons after the crown prince died but the throne passed to the grandson instead, aka Zhu Di's nephew. And the Joseon-Ming relations actually were strained w/ Taejo and Hongwu, but Yi's coup in 1398 and Zhu Di's rebellion in 1399 (and ended in 1402), things changed a lot. Both of them needed legitimacy, and Yi Bang Won's tributes to Zhu Di legitimized the coup for both sides, i.e. ("Look, Joseon is sending me tribute, recognizing me as the true emperor" & "Look, the new Ming Emperor officially recognized me as king of joseon")- before this, Yi Sung Gye was not officially recognized as King of Joseon, but was given a more temporary title b/c there was still quite a bit of distrust between Hongwu and Yi Sung Gye, as Joseon also wanted to expand toward Manchuria in the power vacuum left by the demise of the Yuan Mongols. So when Yongle gave the official recognition to Joseon, Joseon envoys replaced it with the ones given by Emperor Jianwen (the nephew of Yongle, the 2nd emperor of Ming who wasn't in power for that long). Diplomatically a win-win situation for both men. There's a reason why this era of history has been a staple in Korean dramas b/c it's so full of complex characters from Yi Bang Won, Yi Sung Gye, as well as Jeong Mong Ju, Choi Yeong, Jeong Do Jeon, etc etc.
It should be noted that while it’s unclear if Yi Je ever wanted the throne, he was definitely a nasty piece of work, especially when it came to his sex life (something he kept up with even after he was removed from the line of succession, to the point of raping his son’s lover). Yi Je also was a major supporter of his nephew’s coup against his grandnephew: there’s been a lot of talk about how this was him trying to get his revenge over Sejong, but since both the nephew and grandnephew in question were Sejong’s second son and grandson respectively he’d have been supporting his brother’s line of succession regardless of which side he picked, so this is unlikely.
Lee Man-hee The ancestor of Lee Man-hee, the leader of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus, is Prince Hyoryeong, but like Syngman Rhee, he is a bloodbath that fell from the Joseon royal family.
I don't understand why they call them Dynasty when he was a General who usurped the Throne in order to become King when he didn't have a single drop of Royal blood in him. That's called High Treason, no matter what the reason was. In the end none of China and Korea Kings and Emperors were descendent from Royal blood at all. To be a proper Royal blood descendent, you must have been born from two Royal Dynasties. Not from some General who got too ambitious, or from some pretty concubines. This means from the same parents, such as Father and Mother. That's pure Royal Blood, and therefore within the right of becoming a King or Emperor. In fact I was so disgusted of the Story Plot that I have had to abandon the whole thing half way Episode4. If I was Korean and these people were the Great Korean King's I would be shame of calling myself Korean. Nothing to be proud of whatsoever.
Go and watch the six flying dragons.its an old kdrama.after watching it u will understand why he became like that. It was never bed of roses from the beginning
What is 'Royal' blood and how did their ancestors get it than if you have to descend from it in the first place? This is so dumb I had to comment, you should know better living in the 21st century that blood can't tell us what ruler one will become.
Even though Taejong was ruthless, cunning, and violent to win the throne, he was an effective ruler and made several changes to policy that improved the lives of Koreans.
Much like his grandson Sejo to be honest (though Sejo really didn’t go as far as he should have; Taejong didn’t make that mistake)
In fact, pretty much all the Joseon kings up until Yejong knew what they were doing, even Danjong (he may have been young but he wasn’t an idiot, his uncle just beat him to the punch).
You watched the series that included Yi Bangwon as a character. Impressive what you had said.
Thoroughly enjoyed roots of the throne. Learnt alot about korean history.
Bangwon was ruthless in his own way yet he proved to be a dam good king.
Waiting to watch tears of bangwon.
I think he saw how the power of families was always used to oppress the throne and the people. Drastic measures needed to be taken
Yi Bang Won = Jang Hyuk iconic the best 👍👍
Enjoy the content. Keep it up.
Thanks a bunch ^^
Didn't his son create the Korean alphabet
Thank You SO MUCH FOR THIS! OUR MINDS ARE THE TRUE MANIFESTORS OF OUR REALITY!
Done watching "Six Flying Dragons"
Lee Bang Ji was my favorite swordsman
I really wish that you mentioned Jeond do Jeon's reforms while u were talking about Yi Bong Won's achievment. Because they were bacially Jeong do jeon's ideas
Jeong Do-jeon and the Foundation of the Joseon Dynasty [History of Korea]
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I came her after watching My Country. I love Korean history ❤
I'm currently watching KBS yi bang won and its currently airing, I hope they will not go on "cutesy route" like what they did dirty to historical series " Secret Door" where they try so hard to avoid to tarnish the 'prince charming' image of male lead actor. I want to see the male lead in yi bang won to berserk and be faithful to history and not disneyfied his character because he is a prince.
I also hope that it'll stay more historical than "fairytale"...
yes Lee bang won im watching it right now same on on this vids
Yi bang won must have been quite the forceful and domineering persona . After all , he was the 5th oldest, and younger brother of 4. He assassinated and banished his older brothers . Lets just say , his actions were a bit disrespectful to those he should have been subservient and defer to. And I should also mention , he was a bit disrespectful to pops' wishes.
It is an irony of Asian and confuscianist etiquette that king Tae jo founded a long term dynasty by illegitimate means. many of you will be offended by my use of the word "illegitimate." After all he used assassinations and illegal means to gain control.
Yi Bang won was taejo's favourite son before all the killings haha.
@@loveaintfree1409Those killings made him hate his once-favourite son so much that he even started a war in his old age to get his son off the throne. Unfortunately for him his son was every bit as millitant as he once was, much younger, and FAR more politically savvy.
One of the best Korean heads of state ever, albeit overshadowed by his son.
greatest son created by a great father
@@emamadra3472
So much of Sejong’s successes (including the actual throne itself) were only possible because his father rather brutally cleared away any serious threats he might have to face.
Pardon me but you used wrong picture for King Jeongjong, thats King Jeongjo son of crown prince Sado and ruled after his grandfather king Yeongjo
thanks for the heads up~ I now realize that I left that by mistake :(
Early Joseon history seems so much more interesting and intriguing than its later history. Whereas we had princely rivalry, civil wars, absolute kings and a lot of dynamism in the early days, the later centuries simply feel insufferable with dogmatic officials arguing over petty practices and a lot of factional infighting.
I hope you one day make a video about this. Why did Joseon politics change so much?
Blame Sejo (who was actually a decent king in and of himself, but his own violent means of getting the throne left the gates open for corruption in the Joseon bureaucracy and weakening of monarchic power once he bit it, because of all the power gained by the officials who helped his coup and outlived him).
Taejong must have been rolling in his grave at seeing his grandson screw up like that; he avoided the same mistakes by purging his own former supporters once they started getting too ambitious (which was why he had his in-laws executed).
Do You have any information about the Famous Chinese Linguist that Sejong's Language Study Committee Sought Advice from "BEFORE" the Invention of Hangeul???
I have never heard about this. I’m curious myself now…
good timing bro thanks keep it up
You bet
A fascinating king, though he's definitely not someone if I knew him irl would not want a drink with. But a fascinating person nonetheless. Some westerners comment about Taejong being like Michael Corleone actually fits SO well btw.
Taejong and MIchael Corleone similarities:
Both have backgrounds that were not mainstream in their society at the time, yet still retained some power in that minority community: Just like the Corleone family built by Don Vito, Yi Sung-Gye (Taejo) built his own political power with the northeast as his base, family was originally a subject of the Mongols, and had close relations w some Jurchens as well (like their subordinate Yi Ji Ran, whose original name was said to be something like "Tung Du-ran"). And were outsiders to the central literati in Gaegyung at the time.
Both Michael and Taejong were also the first ones to enter the "mainstream" in some ways - Michael went to Dartmouth, and fought in WW2, showing how Vito wanted at least one of his sons to join "mainstream" American elite. Just like Michael, Taejong (or Yi Bang Won as he was known) was the first in his family to pass the prestigious civil service exams.
Michael's killin go fthe corrupt cop and also the revenge against the 5 families is a LOOOT like alll the killings Yi Bang Won did for his father to take over Joseon, including the daring murder of Jeong Mong Ju. And his fallout with Jeong Do Jeon mirrors the fallout between Tom Hagen and Michael
And his relationship w/ the 3rd brother of the family (Bangwon was the 4th oldest) during the 2nd Princes' Revolt is a LOOOT like Fredo-Michael scenes in Godfather 2 lmao
I love the comparison!
@@loonytricky There's a reason why there's memes about 킬방원 lololol. And his ruthless killing of his in-laws is just honestly kind of sociopathic even though I understand *why* he did it. Esp. the Min brothers, his brothers in law - he literally knew them for a long long time, and his wife & her family were big supporters of his in youth, and iirc even Yangnyung as a child was raised alongside the Min family. Such a ruthless mofo lmao. But then again b/c he did that he was able to secure the throne to Sejong even though Sejong was the 3rd son without much fuss and let Sejong do his thing.
ALso fascinating is comparisons with him and his contemporary, Emperor Yongle aka Zhu Di, who also was in a similar position as Yi Bangwon when he was the Prince of Yan, as he was considered as one of the most capable among Zhu Yuanzhang aka Hongwu Emperor's sons after the crown prince died but the throne passed to the grandson instead, aka Zhu Di's nephew. And the Joseon-Ming relations actually were strained w/ Taejo and Hongwu, but Yi's coup in 1398 and Zhu Di's rebellion in 1399 (and ended in 1402), things changed a lot. Both of them needed legitimacy, and Yi Bang Won's tributes to Zhu Di legitimized the coup for both sides, i.e. ("Look, Joseon is sending me tribute, recognizing me as the true emperor" & "Look, the new Ming Emperor officially recognized me as king of joseon")- before this, Yi Sung Gye was not officially recognized as King of Joseon, but was given a more temporary title b/c there was still quite a bit of distrust between Hongwu and Yi Sung Gye, as Joseon also wanted to expand toward Manchuria in the power vacuum left by the demise of the Yuan Mongols. So when Yongle gave the official recognition to Joseon, Joseon envoys replaced it with the ones given by Emperor Jianwen (the nephew of Yongle, the 2nd emperor of Ming who wasn't in power for that long).
Diplomatically a win-win situation for both men.
There's a reason why this era of history has been a staple in Korean dramas b/c it's so full of complex characters from Yi Bang Won, Yi Sung Gye, as well as Jeong Mong Ju, Choi Yeong, Jeong Do Jeon, etc etc.
i cant find part 1
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It should be noted that while it’s unclear if Yi Je ever wanted the throne, he was definitely a nasty piece of work, especially when it came to his sex life (something he kept up with even after he was removed from the line of succession, to the point of raping his son’s lover).
Yi Je also was a major supporter of his nephew’s coup against his grandnephew: there’s been a lot of talk about how this was him trying to get his revenge over Sejong, but since both the nephew and grandnephew in question were Sejong’s second son and grandson respectively he’d have been supporting his brother’s line of succession regardless of which side he picked, so this is unlikely.
you did not talked about Muyhul and Lee Banji
LOL, they are fictional characters from a tv show. They did not exist in history.
Lee Man-hee The ancestor of Lee Man-hee, the leader of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus, is Prince Hyoryeong, but like Syngman Rhee, he is a bloodbath that fell from the Joseon royal family.
Korea 🇰🇷
I don't understand why they call them Dynasty when he was a General who usurped the Throne in order to become King when he didn't have a single drop of Royal blood in him. That's called High Treason, no matter what the reason was. In the end none of China and Korea Kings and Emperors were descendent from Royal blood at all. To be a proper Royal blood descendent, you must have been born from two Royal Dynasties. Not from some General who got too ambitious, or from some pretty concubines. This means from the same parents, such as Father and Mother. That's pure Royal Blood, and therefore within the right of becoming a King or Emperor. In fact I was so disgusted of the Story Plot that I have had to abandon the whole thing half way Episode4. If I was Korean and these people were the Great Korean King's I would be shame of calling myself Korean. Nothing to be proud of whatsoever.
Mate u forgot to mention that he was the founder of new kingdom, meaning he dosent need to have a royal blood since he was a noble anyway
Ur comments prove that you are a harcore racist
Go and watch the six flying dragons.its an old kdrama.after watching it u will understand why he became like that. It was never bed of roses from the beginning
What is 'Royal' blood and how did their ancestors get it than if you have to descend from it in the first place? This is so dumb I had to comment, you should know better living in the 21st century that blood can't tell us what ruler one will become.
Kings are made not born
Joseon is a part of Chinese empire. Hanbok imitated Hanfu which is national costume of Han Chinese.
The only one I disagree with is the empire part. It was never part of China. Maybe its influence on their historical clothes etc is accurate.