ABANDONED TOWER - Floor 23 downwards (lift shafts and motor rooms)
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2023
- This is PART 3, the final part. Starting from floor 23 (roof) then all the way to floor 2 (the basement).
On our way down we have a look at the BMU, a BMS, the low rise motor room, then on top - inside - and below the lift cars, then a few extras on the way down.
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Pronounced 'Ack-kon-ic', this is a very rare lift control system which was way ahead of it's time in the 1970s.
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When I see the tremendous resources that went into this building, it is saddening to see it abandoned and defaced. Very interesting video. Thank you.
Yeah, I was wondering what Reagonomic changes resulted in the difference between it being seen as worthwhile to make this edifice in the first place and then later, not worthwhile to keep it in use.
This is really cool. It’s pretty rate to see a building this tall become abandoned. The only example of anything like this that I know of in the US was the Martin Tower, former headquarters of Bethlehem Steel. It was abandoned for 15+ years before being demolished in 2019. I can’t wait to see the lift logic explainer video!
And the Liftdragon does a magnificient job on Aconic, explaining the system. The same goes for Monotron, I've never seen such splendid system like that. For it's years it was way beyond time. Thank you very much, both MrMattandMrChay and Liftdragon for your work.
Thanks for your comment Simon :) :) Yes I agree, it was a very modern concept.
This video totally captures how creepy the building is. Excellent graphics, music and voice-over as always.
Thanks very much for the nice comment Petertronic :)
Love this part! The choice of music delivers the atmosphere perfect. Especially the part in the lift shaft where you explain the vanes. I can really see and feel the dedication you poured into this video.
Thank you very much for your kind comments. The music and the way it times with the footage is something I'm passionate about. Yes, a lot of work and glad it's appreciated - makes it worth the time and effort comments like this. Matt
Cancelling this morning's meetings....
I don't even have any meetings so I arranged some so I could cancel them to watch this!
Lol... im taking that as a massive compliment guys :)
@@mrmattandmrchay it was worth everything. I loved that you put back the floor indicator panel. Love your attention to detail. Switched to headphones five minutes in because of the intensity. Found myself that night, explaining the craziness of the DC generators to a group of open-mouthed pals. So good guys!! Just the best content on yt!!
The point where I heard you explain about the compensating cables is the point where I remembered to hit "like". That's cool information for a curious person.
That green glow in the dark alarm bell button is cool. Great video, I have seen all the episodes of this series. That building is still in pretty good structural condition. Keep up the good work.
Notice the Scantronic 9500 address code on the PIR. Buss No. then LIM number and then circuit No.
I loved the old 9500. It had a super loud siren on full alarm and was very stable..... Err unless a thunder storm came along 😂
Actually in my younger days I did a large 9500 install that never gave a problem. I am sure the reason was that we used screened cable for the buss. Most installers used standard alarm cable.
I'm feeling all nostalgic now 😁
Fantastic well made video as always. I like the fact that you include other plant and not just the lifts 👍
I forgot about the 9500, but bear in mind it might be Galaxy as well (lims on a 9500 went to zone 5, whereas Galaxy go to zone 8). Worked on loads of 9500 in my past and loved the alarm sound on them, especially the older ones with the lamps (not leds) that lit the lcd screen
Schindler are very expensive elevators, we usually install Kone and Otis.
Inside there are elevators with chrome-plated walls, such a design decision is ahead of its time, but in our country in 1960-70 the elevator cabin was covered with laminated wood veneer.
How you doing matt? After looking at the technical side this is now probably the most interesting tower I have ever explored. Thanks for stopping by and making more amazing videos, it was great meeting up 👍
Thanks! Yep finally uploaded the last video. How long since the visit? Lol. Very interesting tower, wonder if it's accessible again. Very easy access last time. Thanks for showing me around. Actually two more videos to come, one explaining why the high rise lifts were removed, the other is the Aconic video with theliftdragon.
Hi, I seem to have lost your number. Could you please send me an email with your number please? mattw.youtube@virginmedia.com I need to check something with you (not urgent). Thanks, Matt
@mrmattandmrchay Yeah it was ages ago, probably in the winter now 😅 our entry point was secured but someone just gone and busted the front door down last week so still accessible for now. Can't wait for the next videos.
This video series is a work of art and I'm repeating sections of the video repeatedly
Thank you :) And you're right. For example, my next video was ready 1 week ago, but it just doesn't quite hit the spot - and that too needs to be a work of art before I activate it.
@@mrmattandmrchay keep up the great work and content 😊
Very interesting to see the window washing machine. Another very interesting (and often overlooked) piece of engineering considering it has its own hoist system and even a little railway with a turntable!
It even has it's own little garage on the roof. I've seen some videos from 2014 and the building was mostly intact back then.
the effort that goes into these videos never fails to amaze, another fantastic upload! I find it interesting how despite the state of the area right outside the lifts, the interiors and particularly the button panels inside still look in good shape relatively speaking. Those poor old rare schindler R-Series buttons unable to continue doing their job, but it is interesting to see the alarm button glows in the dark, thats pretty cool. Hope all is well and im looking forward to the next parts :)
I'm pretty sure the alarm button glows in the dark is to make people easier to find should the power goes out and they become trapped in the lift. Never seen like that before to be honest.
Thanks zz9 for the kind comment. They removed most of the building, and I'm glad the lifts were not ripped out as well.
I didnt notice the glowing button to be honest, Adam or lifttracker did, then it was like, wow! Just a small touch, probably before emergency lighting existed in the cabs.
@@mrmattandmrchay thats what i was thinking, if the lights went out due to a lift fault you could easily find the alarm to use it as it would be at maximum glowing ability from the lift's lights. a cool little feature for sure, you don't see it done that way anymore with the rise of LEDs and backup power sources for the alarm system
This is fascinating! I used to work in 1 Hayley Road briefly in the early 2000s, and I seem to remember five ways tower being close by, I’m sure you could see it, and I must have passed it countless times on the way into town. Excellent informative video, thanks 😀 In fact, I discovered I lived 2 streets away from 1996 to 1998. It’s a small world!
Thanks very much for your kind comment. Looks like a modern building, shame it's going to be demolished.
The intro sent goosebumps down my back, as did other parts of the video as well. A spectacular job with the editing of the video again, as always.
Great job! Thank you! 😘
Yet another absolutely *fantastic* video here, guys! Thankyou as always! ❤🛗😇
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the comment
Amazing!
Such a wonderful Video! As always we might say!
awesome
Hi Matt how are you doing mate? Its really nice to see you uploading another video again after a bit of time great video as always this place is in a sad state unfortunately the lifts are so cool and amazing so they weren't bothered to modernise them whilst the tower was open i think the reason why they stripped out the inside of the lift shafts is to take all the metal parts or copper wiring and sell them on for cash to a scrap yard whilst the prices of scrap metal and copper wiring are high at the moment hope your having a good day so far Matt and I also hope that Chay is doing good as well 👍
Once again your in depth videos are top notch! Really appreciate the effort in editing on these as a power engineer myself I understand the Building systems and elevators I am also trying to give a much better detailed experience in my trainspotting videos that I film in Canada. Cheers from Canada!
Thanks very much for watching and the kind compliments Tony!
Absolutely stunning even seconds in....
Thank you Andrew! :)
Brilliant! I just had to pause to subscribe... Cheers from Outback Australia. Rolf
Nice, I subscribed after seeing part one and two then kinda forgot after a while, glad I subbed and the notification worked for once.
Wicked, thanks for the sub! :)
You did a great job! 👍🏻
Thank you! 😊
Superb! One of the things I've been wanted to see is the inside of the lift car and here it is, nice to see they're still largerly intact. Wonder why they trashed the high rise lifts instead? Would've been cool if they were still intact as well.
Interesting to see the R-Series alarm button glows in the dark. Surely that would make people to find the alarm button easier should the power goes out and they get trapped inside. Nowadays most lifts would have their alarm buttons illuminate by their light instead of self illuminating like this :)
Thanks for the comment! I did have the 'why the lifts were smashed out', in this video, but it made the whole video 40 MINUTES long!! So I took it out and made a separate video on it - find out why in the next video, hopefully activating on Friday. :)
@@mrmattandmrchay Can't wait!
11:16 Is it a working fan ? Is there power in this building ? Thanks for all your top notch videos!
Ooh there's another call panel in this low rise lift motor room! It looks to be in better condition than the one in the high rise lift motor room too.
yep, with wires and lamps attached! :)
@@mrmattandmrchay Even better!
Amazing video and music. What camera did you use?
That'll be the GoPro 11 black. I always use video lights and bring a second camera with a zoom just in case. Some of this footage was stablised for a second time in adobe premiere. Thanks very much for the kind comment. Matt
Hi Mr Matt and Mr Chay! Your videos are always well done and I can see a lot of effort was put into making the videos. You seem to know a lot about elevators so I wanted to ask you a question! :D
I noticed something weird while I was visiting Toronto. On a lift there, the button panel had the Schindler logo but next to the gap but on the entrance there was an Otis logo on the floor. Was the lift manufactured by Otis and later modernised by Schindler? Thanks!
The lift at the end used to work still when inwent there last
24:17 At least in my country, newer lifts (e.g. by Fujitec & Sigma) may use a thicker compensating chain instead of compensating cables, maybe as the former is cheaper as it doesn't need to be as smooth as the load-bearing cables that connect the lift car to the motor & counterweight. To be fair, on the other hand I've also seen a Mitsubishi in my country (probably the Elenessa model made in 2009) that's just 6 floors tall but with a compensating chain too (which is also covered with a plastic sleeve tubing)
Hi, Matt. I hope you’re doing well. I always enjoy your videos and the effort you put into them. In your example of transitioning from low to high rise lifts you said a person traveling from floor 10 to 18 would need to go to 12 to transition to the high rise lifts. But it also appears lift 5 serves all floors too?
Hj, em julho de 2023 eu pus uma Indisa no meu Monza, q anda sempre com aditivo. Mas saiu de lá um Urba, rotor plástico, datado de 2018 ... Espero q o material da Indisa supere, no mínimo, o q tempo q a Urba durou soltando o rotor
7:37 Hang on a minute. If someone cut the lift cables wouldn’t the emergency brakes be applied to stop the lift car from crashing down the lift shaft?
normally yes unless you remove the governor or its independent steel cable first
it was a platt schindler too, how sad it became like that
on the sign it says if power goes out, wait for lift experts to manually wind the lift to a floor. Are there any videos of this in action?
I suspect that the Schindler "know your lift" signs probabaly aren't original, since they depict M-Series buttons in the drawings, which didn't come out until sometime in the 1980s.
The glow in the dark alarm button is pretty awesome. Never seen anything like that before. How much use would that actually be I wonder? If the lights go out, then power is probably out....if power's out then the alarm may not work anyway? I do find it very odd that the freight lift was upgraded, but the passenger lifts weren't. Usually in buildings, it's more likely that they will upgrade your passenger lifts, as these would see WAY more use, and therefore more wear & tear. Would be interesting to know why the service lift was done, and whether or not there were ever any plan to upgrade the main lifts at any time (that evidently never happened because the building closed).
I wonder how many people actually read and found the 'know your lift' useful!
The glowing alarm button was a nice touch, probably before emergency lighting was installed in the lifts. All alarm buttons should be run from a power supply with a back up battery, so I'm guessing the alarm will still work locally if power goes off. I didn't see any signs of it, but I didn't specifically look for it.
I'm guessing that the upgrades were related to costs. To replace a goods lift that serves only 2 or 3 landings wouldn't be that expensive. But to replace 6 passenger lifts serving 23 floors would be enormous - cheaper to replace parts rather than modernise them completely. Obviously, there comes a point when engineers no longer have the knowledge to diagnose and repair that system and replacing them in inevitable, but closure of the building came first!
@@mrmattandmrchay As well as knowledge, sourcing parts is an issue. The lifts at the Hospital I work at are getting their long-overdue replacement due to the fact that parts for 1960s and 70s OTIS lifts are hard & expensive to get, and the breakdowns so frequent. Apparantly they discovered whilst doing the Purple Lifts that the controllers on cars 3 and 4 had been changed at some point, becuase they couldn't get the parts for them.With our Blue lifts, cars 1 and 2 were decommissioned to be used as "spare parts" lifts to keep cars 3 and 4 working until they can be replaced (due to start later this year). All in all, there are 23 lifts needing upgrades!
Just about to pretend I’m sick so I don’t have to wait any longer to watch
Wow, this tower is beautiful!
11:15 - Is that fan still powered, or was that outside air blowing in and windmilling it?
Being up quite high with various external windows open, it's being blow by the wind outside (and creating a haunting sound!)
in the power/drive cabinet what those cards with different shapes on them? how do the low rise lifts let you out on the 13th floor? why does the lift have a down arrow where the 12 should be?
Hi Sam. The low rise lifts serve floors 2 - 12 only. Floor 13 is access to lift shaft only for the low rise.
What is the mm:ss for the down arrow you mentioned? - ah you mean the car operating panel? Probably the button was lost or broke, and the engineer didn't have a replacement "12" button, all he could find is a landing station (up/dn) so had to use this instead.
Could you do a detailed video on the air conditioning and heating system?
Ahhh, I think that was my final trip. I don't have any plans to go in there again. Some of the extra scenes like the window cleaning machine, the BMS room were essentially just add-ons when I was going up/down. Unfortunately aircon and heating isn't my specialised subject, so I wouldn't know what to film.
by the way this building has 25 floors if you count the roof on top of the highrise motor room
Good to see you again I've been missing you been gone for a while but anyway when are you going to release part 5 for Hilson Park Tower
I'm trying to get a load of videos uploaded at the moment. Slow task as I don't have a lot of free time. Still have some new videos to upload and I'm not currently working on Hilton Park. TBH I can't remember what Hilton Park Part 5 was about?
@@mrmattandmrchay part 5 for Hilton Park Tower was about a directions switch
@@mrmattandmrchay Anyway you just take your time and get every single one of those videos you wanna upload upload and then work on part five for hilton park tower cause I really wanna watch it
One day some time ago, these lifts made their final calls unbeknownst to them. They came to rest on the current floors, never again to be moved. The final passengers exited the building and they've been left to dwell and decay on their own with just a few "visitors" passing by from time to time to harvest their parts, further ensuring they'd never move again.
It this is poetry, I rather like it lol :)
Yes, it looks as though the motors were valued more for their copper than for their ability to move some other load.
Why is this tower abandoned? What was there originally and what caused it to close?
Please have a look at Part 1 right at the start, as this goes through why the tower was shut ua-cam.com/video/9yrvtWk47fE/v-deo.html I believe it was occupied by a government department when it was open.
12:55 What's that counter for?
Number of trips. Every time the lift travels the number increments by one.
Can’t click top left video, Any chance of link in the comments ?
The smashed lift shaft video is not active yet, will activate probably this Friday. I have to do the voice over to say click the video (even though it's not there yet) because once THIS video is uploaded it cannot be changed. So it's essentially a place holder. I also mentioned it in the video description also :)
You could name this video "Schindler's Lift."
Schindler Aconic or Otis?
what the
the elevator 3 and 6 were suppoesd to go to floor 2 ? u put lift 1 and 4 go to the baisment ?
Wrong way around in previous video
@@mrmattandmrchay its okay we meak errors sometimes
Did you guys disable the add to playlist option? or is it just me?
Uhm... not done anything this end. UA-cam glitch maybe.
How was that fan running ?
Being up quite high with various external windows open, it's being blow by the wind outside (and creating a haunting sound!) - windmilling I think they call it.
@@mrmattandmrchay ah right be watching them abandoned buildings vids and some buildings tend to have power still active to parts or all. Keep up the great material. Darn interesting
New York is 20 years?
Transitronic 2G mit Aconic Steurung
😅😂😢❤ 呢度21樓有點解會有三個升降機嘅
12:46 Apparently some of the control equipment must have been made in a German-speaking place. "Elektronikgerät" is no doubt German, meaning "electronic device".
Edit: Never mind, I see the Schindler logo on the signs in the lift car later on - that of course explains it.
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I was able to find out in wich hotel you staied that night (I wont name it) using Google Maps, now when i found the Hotel i saw that there was an Abandond Building basicly on the other side of the road. It kinda looked like it had Lifts (i think its an Abandoned Warehouse). Is it going to be featured in another Video or didnt you notice it or did you look at it and it was Trash ?
Have a nice day
Ahhh, abandoned building? Not seen one from the hotel I was staying at. Can you possibly let me know where you're referring to? I don't mind you mentioning hotel names.
Yes that was the hotel I was staying at. Was a mile walk to the tower. But what abandoned building were you referring to on the other side of the road? I didn't notice one, but perhaps I haven't see it? There was a building just to the side (across the small road), but that's been flattened ever since I stayed here. It's just waste land now, so perhaps google maps is out of date?
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Why wouldn't they leave the cars at the bottom, surely safer than mid
well, consider that if the cabs are on the ground, that leaves a massive counterweight that's slightly heavier than the lift car (and without emergency brake) at the TOP of the shaft :) Not sure there is a safe place to leave one. It was probably 'where they were when they were switched off' - probably no-one gave it a second thought.
@@mrmattandmrchay When the owners decide to decommission a building do they send in a crew the switch off and strip the electrical distribution panels in the plant rooms and leave or are the elevators Individually decommissioned? If so do they just scrap the electronics and leave the cars where they happen to be? Also the cabinets still have many components left. Do they just remove enough to make it unworkable? I always wonder why they don't strip the cabinets clean.
Too long between videos.
I can't remember the first two and I don't have time to rewatch them.
A bit of an unneccessary comment - whether you watch, or don't watch, well that's up to you. I don't need to justify the gap between videos - it is what it is. Some videos take longer to edit that others. Although it's nice to upload more often, nothing's going to change the amount of time some of these videos (like this one) take to edit and UA-cam isn't my day time job and I wouldn't want it to be.
Just stop with that fake slomotion, it’s obnoxious and nauseating…
Almost as if amateurs recorded and edited this.
"Recorded and edited by amateurs". Ok, so I go to YOUR channel to see your example(s) of a 'professionally edited' video and I find... Nothing!? Unless you can offer something that's edited to a better standard than my video, then I suggest you refrain from criticizing other people. Judging by your content, I don't think you have any idea of what you're talking about regarding content, editing and methods.