Powder Coated 223 Bullet, (2,500 FPS) Cast Lead.........

[@jamesvatter5729]

I finally got to test mine, Elvis. You nailed this! They shot great at 50 and 100...and with no evidence of leading. Thanks for the encouragement!

[@jim8191]

Elvis, I genuinely miss your informative and educational videos.

[@murffyslaw001]

Elvis, I've tried the slower powder concept myself very recently. I'm using the same Lee bullet, PC'd, sized .225" over Shooters World Tactical Rifle powder. Rifle is a 1-8 twist, 16" carbine also. Still working on my ladder of loads, but it's showing real promise. I started at 16.0 gr. and worked up to 18.0 and it keeps getting better! I have the next 4 loads in .5 gr steps ready for testing as soon as I can get to the range.
Love your detailed work, you've pushed things out front a bit. Keep up the good work!

[@ryansimmons1001]

I wish I had learned everything I know with a professor like you man! Explaining everything distinctly, succinctly, sufficiently. On point, and multi explanatory without repetition. Expecting consistency over perfection , leaving room for countermeasure. Very well done sir!

[@JaredHempfield]

I've been using 15.5gr of 1680 or 4198, only 2285fps but they cycle flawless and my favorite target loads. My goal is just to conserve powder, always love your vids dude. I'm finally getting into black powder, have everything I need except cant find my rubber canister for the rock tumbler. Cast some 28BHN .490 balls for the mill, going to hydraulic press into pucks for more density.

[@thecrustyoldmachinist9384]

Thank you for the effort that goes into the production of your videos.

[@cousindaniel7255]

Elvis 223 load
Lee 55 grain cast lead powder coated
Winchester 748 23 grains
Cartridge O.A.L 2.100 inches

[@williebulletman5217]

I now you did this video over a year ago sir . I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work . Write know I’m in the hospital I still have 5 more weeks there saying But I just wanted to thank you for keeping me Sane sir God Bless you Elvis Ammo

[@elvisammo]

God Bless you Brother!! : )

[@Prepare2Survive]

14.7 grains IMR 4227 gives me 2/3 inch groups at 50 yds and 2350 fps in my 1:9 twist Ruger Mini 14 with that same powder coated lee bullet. The best part is that same powder works great for my 357 magnum, 300 blk and 7.62x39 loads too.

[@Prepare2Survive]

elvis ammo
I ordered the NOE HTC225-60-RN 4 cavity PB mold when it was on sale for 20%, but I haven't cast any yet. I also have the lyman 225415, but I haven't tried that one yet either.

[@elvisammo]

Prepare2survive..... sounds like you are very satisfied with your lee 55..... very glad to hear from ya! Thanks for the info....

[@davidemery1773]

Thank you so much for this video Elvis, you are amazing. BTW I think you need at least 3 times the lead you have in the previous video 😉.

[@elvisammo]

your welcome David Emery!!! HEY I NEED MORE LEAD!!!! ; )

[@keithreutter4253]

Winchester 748 is my favorite powder. Use 24.5 gr. on 55 grain full metal jacket at 25 yards on up gives great results in my gun

[@vonruger]

Good work Elvis, you put a lot of thought and effort into these projects. I know at some point in the brass prep for loading that you belled the mouth to accept the cast bullet and not shave any lead/coating from the bullet during seating, this is an important step.

[@elvisammo]

thanks vonruger... Yes sir for sure ... flaired the case mouth.. thanks for watching! : )

[@vonruger]

You are very welcome Elvis, keep up the excellent work !!!!!

[@pony_4759]

I keep watching your videos to try to learn as much as i can from you ! Thank You for the great info !

[@CountryBoyPrepper]

This is a very interesting topic for me and something I definitely want to try one day. Thanks!

[@elvisammo]

Hey Country Boy! yes... this is a interesting subject for me to... A lot to learn here. With powder coated bullets. new info is fluid....I know you are thinking about casting for the 30-30 as well..... Good luck and God bless!

[@mossmanguitarpickergs8383]

You knock this one out of the ballpark Elvis!

[@Thorsaxe777]

Hey buddy.. I went sliding across the living Room I my socks with my coffee cup in hand to my E-Z Boy when your show came on after the Add was over. You know some people out there never thing about speed Vs. terminal Velocity. 2.500 fps isn't anything to mess with and as you point out there are plenty of uses for such a round. Varmint control at the farm, Practice. and instruction. This is where the bullet caster really has the advantage. Good video there Buddy. Dave.

[@elvisammo]

hey Thorsaxe777! !! you the man, coffee in hand! (watching the show) ; ) ... it's not full speed 3200 fps or so ... but there is a better understanding of powder coated bullets trickling in! Thanks again Thorsaxe777 great to hear from ya as always!

[@Thorsaxe777]

elvis ammo You got it buddy, Have a good rest of labor Day with your Family and Hopefully you will have some leftover BBq to snack on tomorrow, Hehehe.. Have a good one Elvis. Dave.

[@l.a.3887]

Thanks for the information 👍 a good powder that is a really good group 👍 🇺🇸

[@Billbobaker]

Freaking boogers. 7:28 Very excellent video btw thanks for posting it.
It's my favorite load now..

[@angry_zergling]

Interesting. With the whole 2020 ammo/reloading supply shortage I've been researching how one might make ammo while using the least amount of sourced components as possible.
I recently learned there are methods to reuse primers - not only the sketchy DIY methods, but there is an actual commercial product out there that sells you the stuff needed to mix up reliable priming compound. And, unlike primers, the re-priming mix is in stock and a few bags' worth would last a long time.
Now it'd be great if I could find a good DIY recipe for propellant. Black powder is simple enough to make, but there's a reason semi-autos didn't come about until smokeless was invented. Black powder simply doesn't lend itself to reliable semi-automatic function. You need smokeless powder for that. Smokeless powder, though, is beyond the average person's ability to make.
I'm hoping I'll find some sort of in-between - I understand in addition to 'black powder' there is 'white powder' and 'red powder'...so maybe there's a recipe out there somewhere that burns at the right velocity with the right gaseous to solid combustion products to cycle and allow a mag or two to be run through before it clogs everything up and needs cleaning.
Making completely DIY ammo with the exception of the brass sounds like it would be a really fun project.

[@corriecjc1]

Where did you find the commercial product to reuse primers?? Please respond!!

[@josephhomen]

22lr reloader sell priming compound

[@gustavesoucy-breton6841]

i heard that you could make a "basic" smokeless powder by washing nitrocellulose in acetone then cutting it into small bits, the rest would be adding stabilizers to prevent degéradation

[@harryhenderson334]

superb reload !
was always wanting to recast 556.
great vid.
great instruction "
great instructor!"
Thank you friend !!!!"

[@boddyxpolitic]

Good to see your still alive Elvis & that funny dog of yours. Theres a guy on YT that shouted you out on his video using your powder coating method his YT name is Widow Maker.

[@elvisammo]

Hey Man!! still kickin!!!! thats my little friend "funny Dog"... Good hearing from ya.. I'll check that widowmaker out! thanks again

[@snappertight]

I haven't tried powder coating the cast bullets but I think I will try it. I was using minimum load data with h335 and Lee lube.
Just got 8lbs of varget to try with my cast bullets.
Thanks for posting info when I started I couldn't find any info except don't shoot cast bullets in an AR

[@elvisammo]

hey Leonard Spencer. .. that's pretty funny. .. I'm glad you're giving it a shot. .. whoever said don't shoot in an AR, I hope they see my new load I developed and will do a video on. 300 supersonic .. then I'll test it in the ballistic gel yo choose the right hardness! some good stuff coming up my friend. ... thanks for watching!

[@abrahamhdz]

What is your BHN for that projectile?

[@TendoyD]

Thanks for the information you give in your videos, its also great to see another left handed reloader like me!

[@Krunchyjclown]

That is a nice setup you have there, really diggin' the layout.

[@dubthekid84]

I have been debating on trying cast powder coated .223 I have a 1/9 twist carbine length(that has never been the greatest at feeding, so it might get swapped out for a .300blk) a 1/8 twist middy and a 1/7 middy. I'm thinking it might be a bit of a challenge to get the faster twist mid length gas systems to work. By the way your video with the lee 312-160TL for .300 blackout got me thinking... I just powder coated gas checked and sized a bunch to .309 and I'm going to give them a shot in .300 savage. I enjoy your videos man great work!

[@elvisammo]

hey dubthekid84... generally the 300blk likes the pistol legnth gas but shouldn't be a problem at all with supers. mine is 1/8 twist and my 223 is 1/8 so you got some savage round ready to go.... good deal. thanks for taking the time to comment on whatcha got going on! and thanks for watching. ...

[@russhayes4882]

As always great content and informative ! I also like 748 .

[@JAM4MORE]

Yes. Once again another great informitive video. Im not gonna lie, I was having Elvis Ammo Reloading tips withdrawal. JK. ;) Happy Labor Day. Be safe and keep'm coming bro

[@elvisammo]

Hey Jam!!!! im glad to know I was missed!!!Thanks for the comment ,and the compliment, Happy Labor Day to you too Brother!

[@dutchmanoutdoors7212]

I know this is an older video and I am currently looking through your lists to see if you have gone faster than 2500fps. I just wanted to say that I have been inspired with your videos and have been doing some testing of my own. I have recorded the same cast bullet, double powder coated with 24.8 grains of H335 at over 3,000 fps. Accuracy was decent at 50 yards, just a hair under an inch. Unfortunately 100 yards opened up a lot (3.5 inches). Hopefully when the weather here in NY warms up a bit I'll get some on video.

[@floutdoorstv7914]

I have had an issue with the bullets, same powder and lighter charge and they are tumbling and leading up my gas system on a 10.5 in ar

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

FlOutdoorsTV are you powder coating them?

[@humansvd3269]

What lead alloy did you use to get those FPS? I need to know what BH I need to get that speed.

[@totherepublic358]

Just so you know Elvis, youtube is running ads on this video so you should be getting paid for them.

[@nickl1682]

Good to see you back. Nice rounds .good info. I hat when you get a bugger on the bullet . It's ok its government work. Thanks jersey nick

[@elvisammo]

hey Nick..... it's just boogerd up government work! !!! ; ) thanks again, always good to hear from ya! God bless ya brother. ....

[@corriecjc1]

@@elvisammo I just won a Lee C225-55-RF mold on eBay!! I’m looking forward to trying this load if I can find some powder which is almost impossible right now. Great video!

[@nicholecrouch311]

Hey I know this is an older video but do you harden them up a bit? I'm casting 30-30 Winchester 170 and 150 flat points with straight wheel weight lead...which I think is too dang soft for 2100fps with my lever-revolution powder. Accurate load but when I go to retrieve my lead I can't find them, it looks like their shredding themselves upon impact with any target I shoot them at. In my 45 straight wheel weights are great but theyre also moving about 1/3 the fps the 30-30 bullet is lol

[@robkeene4511]

Do you use gas checks on the 55 grain 223 bullets?

[@bobsmith3560]

Thank you. Your video was very helpful.

[@danielsalach1234]

If I remember Win 748 was the first pouder made for 556 when the problem with the old 4895 was used it is a old powder.

[@dirtroad5637]

Howdy, just subbed :) I'll be starting some 223 casting, powder coating, etc. on my channel soon and am here soaking up some of your xp :)

[@moncorp1]

I like videos peppered with the use of the word 'booger.'

[@jimpels5388]

Elvis, just curious, where did you get the load data using WW 748 with cast bullets?

[@chong2mry]

Elvis, Thanks for your response on the type of mold and how that bullet feeds with the ramps, that close up towards the end of the bullet was awesome in answering our questions. Ordered mold and should get started here soon. We will be messing around with CFE223. I cant say how excited we are to be able to cast 223 rounds and not have barrel lead! Not to mention knocking off 6-7 cents per round!!! One more question, do you PC the 223 the same way you did your 9mm in your PC in half the time video? Using the same sifting screen? if I missed the video of you giving a demo on the 223 I apologize! Jacketed bullets are going to be a thing of the past very soon.... Better learn now while the material is available. Thanks and God bless!

[@elvisammo]

hey chong2mry. ... coat em the same way... I do have some other videos on powdercoat options. .. I thought someone would appreciate me showing that bullet after feeding. .. not bad huh? let me know how your loading project goes? thanks for watching!

[@MichaelSmith-gp1rp]

Im having problems with small glass like beads left in the chamber and barrel that lock up the rounds chambering after going through a few rounds, hope you can help? Ive been using 25grains of CFE223 with blue powder coated 55grain cast boolets. I clean the beads out and still after a few rounds they are back.

[@j45acp69]

23 grains of Winchester 748 C.O.A.L. = 2.1inches. Double powder coated cast lead bullet lee mold C225-55-RF 22 Caliber (225 Diameter). Size your bullets to .225, make sure to bell your case mouth and put a medium light crimp on case mouth.
Your welcome.

[@biggerbehindthetrigger2814]

I'm so glad I watched this video. I popped my cherry on a AR-15. I have 6 lbs of W748 and wanted some data on cast 55 gn Lee bullets. You gave it all to me in one video. I would love to load the 77 gn Elvis bullet from Arsenal molds. Do you have any data for that bullet with the same powder? I really fell in love with the rifle. It has a 18" 1-9 twist. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I plan on getting a 300 blackout in a 16" barrel. I'm going to buy a upper minus the BCG. Do you have a load for 748 for that round. I have a 150 gn .309 Lee mold. I might try a 125 mold. I hear it's a good weight for deer. Just looking for your opinion. I should look up the videos first. Thanks for everything. Happy Shooting.

[@King66nb766]

Hi elvis i realy like your videos and learned alot . Im sorry for asking a ridiculos question but its always in my mind so i appreciate if you can reply me .
My question is why most of the casted bullets reloaded with fast burning powder which we use them in our 12 guage shotshell reloading ( alliant unique). Why dont use low burn powders as we use in reloading commercial bullets .

[@franciscoroco]

What alloy are you using? I haven't been able to get under 4 Moa accuracy. Im using a 50-50 ww-lino that works in my 308 but im about to lose all hope in the 223 cast

[@robertcavoli4351]

I am attempting to duplicate what you have done in this video… I seem to have an issue though. I am new to powder coating. That alone may be my issue…I have powder coated the bullets with Eastwood green. They look great…
What I’ve done just to check the strength of the coating, was to load them into a prepared case without a primer/powder, used a hammer style bullet puller to knock the bullet out, and looked at the bullet. It appears that the coating over the main drive ring has been mostly wiped off? My question is, should it still be on? If so, what am I doing wrong? I have even tried to slightly bevel the neck of the case so it would not rub the coding off while inserting or when the bullet was pulled. Coating appears to adhere well to the bullet, but obviously the friction against the neck or the edge of the case is removing some coating? Suggestions? Thanks.

[@jaygnome6883]

You need to flare the neck of the case a little bit

[@hoffnagel]

Hi Elvis. Thank you for all the great videos! You said you use the hardest ingots for casting 223 boolits, but could you tell us the percentages? How hard is your lead mix? My range scrap lead is only @ 10 - 14 BH. How can i make it harder? What do i mix with it? You were a little vague and skipped over that part. Thanks again!

[@vengenaceearly255]

Another good video. I use Varget. But I have never cast .223. Its good information on the cast bullet PC . When I get done fixin up this dang house I hope to try my luck with the 7.62x 39 123 grain cast PC this fall.

[@elvisammo]

thanks for commenting Vengenace Early! Good luck to ya on your project!!!

[@rodneyhardee2527]

Those are awesome little presses if thats all u had in a shtf scenario. Have 2 and use them for everything!!

[@ReigningUp]

Can you please do an update video on this and address some of the comments and questions in the Comments section? What size are you sizing them to, which sizer are you using, what have your results been using gas checks, powder coat before or after and how did that affect your results, what other powders have you used and how did they fair? Thank you in advance.

[@psykoklown874]

Could you please give more load details? I'm about to start reloading .223, and have decided that this is the load I want to start off with. I'm guessing that you're using the Lee C225-55-RF mold. Which primer are you using?
Have you tried more than the blue from Eastwood? I'm curious if their powders are just generally easier to apply than HF powders.
Thanks

[@corriecjc1]

I’d like to know the mold you’re using too.

[@laurencemiltonbell6951]

+1 for Winchester 748

[@greglaroche1753]

Hi again,
I was just wondering, when you gas check and powder coat, when should you put on the gas check before or after the powder coating?
Thanks

[@elvisammo]

I don't use them very often. mostly just for testing. But I have done it both ways, add it before then powder coat. Sometimes I find the check works good after. Depends on the bullet and the thickness of the powder coat. It's worth trying it both ways to see the best fit for the bullet.

[@partyzantzwycietegolasu5948]

Hi Elvis. What do you think about mixing powder coat paint with fine aluminum powder/dust? 50/50 or 30/70 paint/aluminium. I'm thinking less paint left in barrel. More heat resistant. Making over all more tough coating. Any thoughts?

[@tkarlmann]

Are you still using this bullt/load for your .223? Are you putting gas checks on these bullets?
Does the gas check go on before or after the powder coating?

[@darknitethunder]

Great video Elvis, and your right on about Winchester 748 powder, been using it for years. But what I'd like to know is where did you find Loading Data for Lead Bullets...?

[@justinkretchman5364]

Lyman cast hand book

[@user-bd9cc9ff7c]

Was wondering if you ever had a problem with powder coated bullets when your pressing the bullet it’s shaving the coating off. I feel like the taper is good for jacketed bullets, do I need more taper for powder coated bullets. 3:48

[@786100Moose]

Hi elvis, awesome video. Please tell me, what sizing die are you using for 223 if you are actually resizing. Thank you.

[@markchatelain9451]

Luv your channel ! Have you ever done a compariaon of your 55 gr Lee cast bullet, 2500fps, Win 748, 23 gr load with plain PC bullets, compaired to PC and a gas check applied ??? I'm asking about the difference in ;
1) Accuracy
2) Velocity
3) Fouling (leading)
With the only difference being the addition of a gas check ???
So, in the long run, do you need gas checks when powder coating medium velocity rifle reloads. I'll soon be loading 5.56, 270 Win & 30-06 PC bullets. Thanks in advance for your answer & experience 👍

[@Cuttin_It_Close]

I know this is a couple year old video but I wanted to ask you where do you get your cast boolit reload data? Love your vids. Keep em comin.
Thanks

[@grantatkinson5531]

I'm glad I watched this video. I'm starting to load .223 and I was looking for a good mold. I think I will get the Lee 55gn. I bought a shitload of W748 and 231. do you have any experience with 7.62x51 or .308. I am going to use cast and don't know if I need a GC or not. What velocity can I expect. can I use the W748 on that too. I don't want to do and experimenting on my dad's Enfield. thanks grant

[@EagleEyeShooting]

Hello Grant Atkinson, I wanted to share my info. I'm currently using NOE HTC 153gr 309 mold designed for PC. This mold so far works awsome on all 3 calibers I've tried; 300AAC, 30-06, 7.62x51. They recently came out with a boat tail version but no reviews yet. All grouping about an inch or under (still load developing). Alloy is Wheel weight water quenched and aged 2 weeks PC with eastwood. I recommend using a Hornaday modified case for OAL. I jump lands at 20 thousandths. The OAL of these bullets is shorter due to large ogive. Since these work so good I just purchased the .224 version of this mold

[@nomamartini1310]

Elvis, I appreciate your work and sharing it with the rest of us.
Question - are you using gas checks on any of these PC 223 rounds?

[@elitenoob1147]

im guessing he isnt. you dont have to if you Powder Coat as far as im aware.

[@abrahamhdz]

elitenoob1147... Chances are he is using a gas check. Either that or purchasing some ULTRA hard lead to begin with but that is not really the cost savings approach. BHN and gas checks are still very important for Powder coated bullets.

[@abrahamhdz]

I watched his other videos... not gas checked... mind boggling... I would like to see the video with the crony that says 2,500 just so I can crap my pants on the spot ;) Pretty amazing!

[@jvengence]

A thin layer of paint won't stop gas cutting.

[@Springfield-eo8jl]

Jay Vengeance it's not paint. It's a hard polymer coating.

[@ryankelley85091]

For someone who has an adjustable gas block, it's important to find one load that works very well to cycle the gun. A 2,500 fps round isn't what I want for an all-around load I'll be shooting. Any attempts to take these powder coated bullets to 3,100 fps?

[@Honk_Clank]

When & if I cast I would run 2000 fps flat & save my barrel. if the accuracy is acceptable for plinking.

[@andrewjohnson3587]

Is Linotype the best bhn to run thru an ar-15?

[@rocpyro]

Thank you for this video! I will try this load, but I have one
question, what is you average lead hardness?

[@elvisammo]

rocpyro.... this one is around 22bhn.. with the powder coat. .. it can take it a bit softer!

[@mikemcnamee6030]

My dog does the same thing. Always at my feet under the reloading bench. He's a big 95lb pit that lays under my chair right between my feet

[@elvisammo]

hey Rusty Shackleford...... I do believe I have a little more room at my feet than you! Our pups give us the calm we need while reloading! They never talk back and are all ears and wagging tails!!!! My very best friend..... the best to yours!!!!

[@sgsoutdoor4041]

Do you use gas checks and do you have trouble with the cycling of the rounds when shooting?

[@cplxmc1540]

Sorry to ask this question I'm sure you answered it in the video what Bhn do you run on the cast bullets.

[@bretgalbraith316]

So my biggest question do these cycle in the AR?. I do lots of PC but now going into a small rifle concerns me. You noted 23gr with 748. I like to work with that just doing legwork before I start building some loads.. Thanks Bret

[@peteralexben]

Hello elvis .ball powders are tricky with low density and other component`s then listed, thats why they specify the case and primer explicit. better use stick or flake powders for reduced loads ,yours

[@elvisammo]

hey peteralexben. .. yes, thanks for bringing that up. They are also known to be temperature sensitive. .. best powder load would be a stick powder. .. thanks again for your good input! !!!

[@christopherpeterson1400]

Do you cast in large batches ? Do you immidiately powdercoat also in large batches? Do you size in large batches ? Do you then store them?.. or do you cast large batches then powder and size, and load only as needed?..

[@tomharrell1954]

Hi Elvis Do you have problems with the powder coating shaving off into the gas port?
Do you have problems with the lead shaving off into the gas port?
Do either lead or powder coating get back into the bolt group?
How often do you clean your weapon?

[@ullakuut28]

Good day Mr Elvis Ammo. thanks a lot for all these nice videos. I have a few questions for the Expert. After powder coating, how long does it take to load these bullets?? Do we have to wait for curing???? When the bullets are all coated do we still need to add gaz checks if we want to go @ 2500fps ????? Thanks a lot for your help. Best regards. ( Mike)

[@mds6387]

Any damages to the projectile from feeding will be negated from the swedging going through the bore.

[@jim8191]

On another note, if you're reading these, would you recommend gas checking after powder coating. I've heard yes and no, your thoughts? Thanks ... Jim

[@T.A.B.Videos]

Nice group, I've been using 748 for years, Do you bell the mouth for the cast bullet or just give it a good chamfer?

[@elvisammo]

hey treesablowin. ..... yes. I forgot to mention that important detail, definitely flair the case. I use the lee universal flairing die. Thanks again! !

[@swnorcraft7971]

@@elvisammo Hey, look into this die. www.lymanproducts.com/rifle-neck-expanding-m-dies I use it in several calibers with good results. Thanks.

[@rogerpetrella5993]

What method do you use to PC the .223 bullets? I can't see how you could stand them on the base, so do you just lay them on the screen? Would the places where they stick to the screen or each other affect the accuracy?

[@wspetz3195]

Pure lead powder coated gas check

[@EricAmerica]

Great info Elvis... I use H335 for .223 fmj reloads which has a burn rate similar to your Winchester powder. I will soon cast & PC .223 55g boolits. I have 2 questions... 1) Do you gas check those pills or just PC and size? And, 2) How accurate are these at @ 100 yards, if tested?
Thanks for the great R&D.

[@elvisammo]

hey Mick9mm. ... I don't gas check or size these pills.... as far as accurate at 100 yrds not as good at 100 yrds as precision ammo. But thats up to the reloader to work on ... as you can imagine when you see my group that I shot at 30 yrds, you multiply by about 3 and you'll have an idea what a 100 yrd group looks like. .. in my case being off target with a non precision shooting ar and a shaky mess behind the trigger, with an optic ment for finding a large target. .. I do alright! ; )..... very acceptable accuracy! thanks for watching. .. and let me know how your reloading project goes?

[@joshwideman7487]

What is your alloy BH hardness and is that critical since you are powder coating anyway? Is that your favorite Eastman Ford light blue?

[@volcom84bait]

@ElvisAmmo what is the recomended BHN .. for 223 .. new to casting need help.. using pure lead .. looks like .. it's too soft to seat the bullet and its scraping the side of bullet when seated ..

[@elvisammo]

The answer to BHN is as hard as you can make it... but your problem is you need a neck flaring die. “Lee universal neck flare die” this will allow you to seat the bullet without scraping the sides... a must

[@volcom84bait]

@@elvisammo thanks

[@whitebuffalo84]

When we had the great powder, bullet fiasco back in 2013. Getting powders in Commiefornia was hard. I tried Alliant reloader 10x for my 223 and it was a dream to use. Now that was with FMJ Bullets. No discussion in the book about lead bullets. Which leads to my question. I know that lee mold uses gas checks. Are you using them on the bullet? If so do you put the on before or after you powder coat the bullets. I believe from the powder coating the bullet simulates the lead bullet being jacketed.

[@billtalley4104]

I see Unique loads for 55gr lead 223 Have you ever tried any other pistol/shotgun powder like Clays for 223 16" 1/7 barrel

[@elvisammo]

Yes.. works great.. just wont cycle the action on semiautos.. give it a try

[@swenner64]

Does the bullet need a gas check to go that fast. I tried powder coating other calibers and got bad accuracy unless they had a gas check.

[@LordMack_0959]

Without a gas check?? I need answers please please please

[@EpikArms]

Are you using gas checks?? How much grain bullet and how much grain powder

[@decktravis9304]

There is a powder coat that is Teflon. It is supposed to be 35% less resistant. APP. www.allpowderpaints.com/powder-coating-colors/teflon-iridescent-yellow/

[@greglaroche1753]

Hi Elvis,
I have been asking this question on several internet sites and forums, but still no one has answered me. Does powder coating effect the need for gas checks? Especially if you cast without grease rings.
Thanks for your reply and thoughts.

[@elvisammo]

I personally think it does. In my experience.. In my testing, I get mixed results without a conclusive outcome. But the scale seems to favor the non gas check. and besides if the outcome is that close would I rather go for the least expensive less work solution... Let me know your outcome... ?

[@campocaster]

So it seems powder coating bullets does not change the hardness of the bullet much if at all. If it does, it might be the 'heat treating' they get when powder coating the bullets that does it. So if that 'is' the case, and bullet obturation would be the same, do you then use load data as you would for cast? Since leading wouldnt be the issue, it comes down to just pressure signs? Are the usual signs of pressure the same, or are there other things to pay attention for in PC'd loads?

[@elvisammo]

hey Paul Campo.... Yeah... good question... I think people over rate powder coat as if it's a hard shell... It's a soft shell. The hardness is the lead under it. What it does do is prevent leading. It allows for a wider range of hardness, with more forgiveness... We are told to load copper plated bullets using cast lead load data as well... I think it just comes down to density...Cast bullets and plated dont have a large light weight copper jacket on them.. This makes them larger for the weight they are.... Less dense.... This is one reason for the difference in load data. The other is more obvious, The lube and grooves must all go in the case.... But What it boils down to is the same pressure signs that make one bad is the same that make the other bad! Good question my friend!

[@Airborne-tb9hz]

Hello does these cast bullets have a gas check

[@evanrossiter217]

Elvis, have you ever tried 4064 behind 55gr PC'd .223? I have a 10.5" carbine gas AR I'm looking to feed. I ask about the 4064 as there is a company up here in Canada selling OEM grade 4064 for 129.99/5lbs, vs a pound of most canister grade powders up here being between 40-55/lb. The same company has 4198 available. Whichever I get, it needs to be able to run cast in my AR as well as my M14 build in .308 with 155gr lee cast and PC'd bullets.
Thank you in advance!

[@billnorthington7725]

Evan Rossiter I don't know about PC bullets but I use 24.5gr of IMR 4064 with basic 55gr fmj bullets in my Savage axis and it is an absolute tack driver with that powder very clean burning and extremely accurate out to 400 yards and probably beyond but 400 is the limits of my optics.

[@eadccomponents8897]

WOOOHOOO 2500!! Mate excellent group! I'm following in your footsteps! Love it! I'm gonna try some home copper plating as well but this is going to be my go-to. Also what range as that target at? 100y? I didn't hear. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! Other then 748, is there another recommendation like varget, 2208 or 2209? I dont know how available 748 will be here. Also can you see if you can get 2000fps out of 300 blackout and tell me the load? I'm still waiting on my 300!

[@elvisammo]

hey Eadc Components.... some powders seem to have a little more wiggle room up and down. 748 does . ball powders tend to be a little moody though.. temp sensitive for one. imr 4895 gives ya a nice full case.. something to check out if its easier to find. you'll like my video coming out tomorrow ... shooting that same bullet. that group I took was only from 30 yrds. but you can multiply that by three for a 100 yrd group. I think varget shoud work. take you time and work them up,... thanks for watching and good luck to ya

[@eadccomponents8897]

I reckon there was 100 ballistic scientists taking a good hard look at your powdercoated bullets. Phenomenal stuff! Thanks man. When I get fully setup here I'll post a video ;) Can't wait till tomorrow!

[@theeasternfront6436]

Elvis, how does the lee bullet run in your ARs? I keep thinking of buying the mold but the blunt nose gives me pause.

[@nycreloader]

The Eastern front I noticed Elvis did not respond. So I’ll answer.the blunt nose works great. I’ve shot thousands and thousands of them.

[@jarhead6153]

Elvis...I know the vid is a few years old, but what mold did you use...?

[@6Sally5]

Elvis I'm just about to order that Lee die. I'm casting my 9mm and .45acp, but haven't yet for my AR. Mostly, I'm concerned about leading and wanted to see how PC is working for you on .223. I do PC my pistol bullets. What Brinell hardness do you think you have with those? I only use range scrap, but have a bar of Linotype ready to mix in for rifle. Thanks!

[@elvisammo]

HEY Alan..... bhn around 22.. you'll be good with the linotype.. I don't see any leading. thanks for watching!

[@uMalice]

Have you tried a gloss clear powder coat? It seems to me a high gloss clear would be the best p.c. to try.

[@elvisammo]

hey James Sparks... I haven't tried it myself but, The folks i've talked to like it pretty good. they say it works good but not "as" good as the solid. That's the word!

[@vinceruland9236]

Hey Elvis, thanks for taking the time to make these videos and doing all the test work. One question, my 55grain mold is a gas check mold. If I powder coat my bullets, do I still need a gas check to run your load in this video?

[@elvisammo]

hey Vince ruland... no need to gas check them. the gas check design just kinda becomes a little boat tail design ... : )

[@stephenadams8584]

@@elvisammo hey , I’ve been trying to watch quite a few of your videos . I’ve got 10 lbs of 748 from a gun shop close out ($10.00/lb ) I’ve also got 2 MP-molds from cast boolits they’re 65 grn mold and 75 grn mold any suggestions on a good starting place for a ladder test with these 2 molds . I’ve got just about any other powder to try as well . I’ve stocked up ever since the Clintons lol. Any starting points and powder selection would be greatly appreciated. I also have lyman 225415 and ideal 224450 and the RCBS 60 molds that I look forward to working up to 22.9/23 of 748 . As a side note I watched one of your wheel weight videos 55 gallon drum fulls . I recently aquired 1250 lbs of wheel weights in 5 gallon buckets . Any easy way to sort the zinc out ? Are any of the stick on weights zinc ? Thank you for any information and help. Keep shooting straight and hope you have a blessed new year .

[@larrykool8637]

Ekvis. Quick question. You mention that you flare the cases. What are you using as a flaring die? I don't remember a flaring die coming with the Lee 223 set.

[@chevyfan34]

The sizing die flares the case mouth on the lee die

[@larrykool8637]

Thanks. I knew that once but, forgot.....must be getting old.....lol.

[@Springfield-eo8jl]

Larry Kool look into Lyman M Dies. They are designed for expanding case mouths and necks for cast lead bullets. If you all ready have a Lee universal flare die you can buy expander buttons from NOE molds. Cast lead bullets need a slight flare of the case mouth to ensure you're not shaving lead off.

[@24fathertime]

Hey, love the ford light blue, just coated some 22 cal lee bullets today, turned out awesome. I would really like to cast some purple ones, do you know if eastwood purple will coat like this, keep up the good video's

[@elvisammo]

yep eastwood has a purple that I hear works!!

[@eddaddio]

Hey Elvis, LOVE that lead base holder for your powder measure, maybe wrap it in duct tape to limit skin exposure. Great videos as always, Thanks!

[@marknice5480]

Or powder coat it