Faber-Castell Albrecht Dürer Watercolor Pencils!

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  • @queenria7
    @queenria7 5 місяців тому +10

    I use these too! I did my own lightfast test with them last year, together with the Polychromos. And the result for the Albrecht Duerers was... DISAPPOINTING! 😕 The good news first: I tested the ADs both dry and wet, next to each other, and the dry swatch faded the same as the water-activated swatch, there was no difference (only when the pigment is very very washed out does it fade slightly faster, but not much). The bad news: 3 stars in the ADs don't mean the same as 3 stars in the Polychromos! The AD stars seem to be "worth" less than the Polychromos stars, meaning they fade more and faster. Not cool. I also have the Albrecht Duerer Magnus, which are not manufactured anymore, unfortunately. And they were much more lightfast than the ADs! It's a shame they discontinued them.

    • @Art_by_Nicole
      @Art_by_Nicole 5 місяців тому +2

      That’s very interesting! How do you test lightfastness? I’m just curious 😄

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +3

      Thank you for sharing your experience with us! That's good to know! That reminds me, I actually did a few lightfast tests on these as well when I first got them! I swatched them dry and wet, covered half of each swatch, and hung them in a south facing window so they would get full sun for a few months. I didn't test every color, just a few where the lightfast ratings on the product differed from the results that the Colored Pencil Society of America got. There were a couple that were rated 3 stars that actually faded pretty quickly. I forgot about that, because it was a couple of years ago and I don't use those few pencils.

    • @queenria7
      @queenria7 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Art_by_Nicole I did it in a similar way as Shana describes here, except that I didn't cover half the swatch, instead I cut off half of the swatches and kept them in a drawer, then pulled them out and held them next to their counter part every time I checked. I left the swatches in the south facing window for several months, but I checked them every 2-3 weeks to see how they developed.

    • @queenria7
      @queenria7 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@CautionArtistatPlay Right! So you had the same experience as me: some 3-stars ones faded pretty quickly.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      @@queenria7 Yeah, it was pretty disappointing.

  • @WendiWells
    @WendiWells 5 місяців тому +4

    My favorite paper to use with watercolor/water-soluble pencils is mixed media paper! I use Museum Aquarelle, Albrecht Durer, Inktense, Neocolor 2, and Graphitint. Specifically, I enjoy the Strathmore 500 Series 90lb Mixed Media paper that comes in their hard-bound and softcover journals, as well as their wire-bound Visual Journals. I use these sketchbooks as my every day, everywhere sketchbooks. It also comes in sheets and rolls. The surface is vellum, smooth but not too textured (less textured than cold press but a little more than hot press). The paper is not too thick (so I don't feel too precious about sketching and playing) nor too thin to experiment on; it's a lovely warm white, and it’s 100% cotton at a fairly reasonable price point. It takes a beating with lots of water, lifting, layering, and some scrubbing, too! When I found this paper, I couldn’t return to cellulose mixed media! 😂 There’s a Heavyweight 500 Series 350lb Mixed Media Paper and a Mixed Media Board available, but I haven’t tried those yet. Thank you for this great video! ❤

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much for your suggestion, Wendi! I have been hearing good things about the Strathmore 500 series in these comments! I LOVE the Strathmore 400 series mixed media paper, I don't know if I have tried the 500 series yet, but now I'm going to have to! Thanks again!

  • @kymdalton7277
    @kymdalton7277 5 місяців тому +3

    Love the using the polys to put down first to repel....awesome tip

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I do this often with my watercolor products, colored pencils work great as a resist! The waxier ones, like Prismacolor, work even better for this!

  • @francinebrown1944
    @francinebrown1944 5 місяців тому +3

    Beautiful piece! Love the tip of using regular colored pencils underneath. Excited for your review.

  • @TheCassieProjects
    @TheCassieProjects 5 місяців тому +3

    Such a beautiful drawing! It was really fascinating seeing the whole process, seeing the light washes building. I have the intense pencils to and they are really quite amazing, I was amazed with the pigment! Thank you so much for the shout out!

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому

      You're welcome! Thank you for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Chopanflores
    @Chopanflores 5 місяців тому +2

    Hi! I love this pencils. In my personal experience my favorite paper for this pencils is the fabriano cold press natural white.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому

      Ooh! Thank you! I will definitely have to try these on that paper!

  • @almas.2530
    @almas.2530 5 місяців тому +4

    I love your drawing. I like these A. Dürer pencils very much and sometimes I combine them with Polychromos too. As for the paper, I find Canson Mix Media quite good and cheap, but my favorite is Arches 300 g hot pressed cotton.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you!! I think I am going to try it on my Arches next! It's one of my go-to papers for colored pencil and Inktense.

  • @carltanner9065
    @carltanner9065 2 місяці тому +1

    Just nabbed myself the full sets of AD's a few days back. I had a smaller set beforehand and was using that. I love the AD's, they're great to use in the hand and the colors are so vibrant. My smaller set, I will now use when I go out and do stuff whilst I'm wandering about, since it's the basic set of 12 pencils. Just the right size to be portable!!😊😊

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes! I like to use my smaller sets that way, too, after I have upgraded to a larger set! It's so convenient!

  • @juststartingover2735
    @juststartingover2735 4 місяці тому +1

    I love the Caran Dache palette because ot is so versatile having the smooth side and the rough side, and the size is just right.

  • @diannedupuis2960
    @diannedupuis2960 5 місяців тому +1

    Your videos are so full of detail that is so helpful and useful and your art is amazing. Well done and Thank you!

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you, Dianne! I'm so glad you enjoy my videos! I do my best to share as much information as I can! Thank you for watching! 🥰

  • @mcblakemore3423
    @mcblakemore3423 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this -- it was perfect timing for me because I had filled my online cart just this morning with the AD pencils and some hot-pressed paper but instead I thought I may go to Jerry's to shop in-person. After seeing your video, I may just stick with my large selection of Inktense.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому

      You are welcome! I'm glad I could help! These are very nice pencils, but I still love my Inktense more!

  • @annnoyez
    @annnoyez 4 місяці тому +2

    I use cold press archer and Caran d'ache watercolorpencils. Works great for me... I have a few Faber Castels bought in open stock but prefer Caran d'ache... ❤

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  4 місяці тому +2

      I have had my eye on the Caran d'ache for quite some time, and finally just bought a set recently! I am working on a piece with them now and will have a video out about them soon!

  • @brigitteitg
    @brigitteitg 5 місяців тому +2

    I really love the Albrecht Dürer pencils and have been using them for years. For design work I work on cardstock or cartridge paper with little water, but in those cases I need a light touch of colour only and don’t aim for saturation. When I use them in adult colouring books they are very vibrant after one or two water activated layers and a dry layer on top. I love that I can choose how much saturation I want, opposed to the Inktense (that I also love!) which are never subtle 😅 I assume it’s the paper that makes a big difference, but also the choice of colour as some pencils give a more vibrant result than others.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, I think the paper was the main issue here. But there were definitely colors that were more saturated than others, as with any art supply. It is nice when you are looking for subtlety. I think a part of it is that I am so used to Inktense where I don't have to fight as hard to build up the saturation I want. Lol

    • @annnoyez
      @annnoyez 4 місяці тому

      ​@CautionArtistatPlay I think it is always the paper that is the issue. Cheap watercolorpaper. And expensive pecils gives way more bad results than good wayercolorpaper and cheaper pencils. Especially with watercolor paint. I van use cheap watercolor paint on expensive watercolorpaper with good results. But even my schmincke watercolorpaint and for watercolorpaint struggles with cheap watercolorpaper. For me it is all in the paper. If I have to give advice to a beginning watercolorartist I say use good paper and chose student grade watercolorpaint. Of you like it upgrade your watercolorpaint as the pans get empty. And buy the more expensive artistgrade. A lot of people start with bot inexpensive materials and find watercolor not for them as they don't get the results they want. Or they see that a tutorial gives bad results... when they use once a good paper their eyes go open. And if I let them dig in my paint they find it so amusing... it is a pity a lot of students with talent quit because they are disappointed in the result. I warm them up again by using once my materials... 😂 even for kids it is important they use good materials when you see they are talented. Like my granddaughter fe. I have her some good sketchbooks and a few schmincke watercolors and when she is with me she can use my stuff. And now she is exploring all kind of media and he is hooked on watercolor. She tales good care of the materials because she understands it's expensive. But what is more beautiful than a child (she turns 10) that has a twinkle in her eyes and is concentrated on making a. Piece... ❤
      It's not because she is my granddaughter but I love watching those young kids who are talented exploring and enjoying an art media.. .
      Sorry for the rambling. I am not native English and can't find the exact words to make a shorter explanation 🙈
      Have all a pleasant day. ❤

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  4 місяці тому +1

      @annnoyez I wholeheartedly agree with you about the paper! Paper makes all the difference, not just with watercolor, but also colored pencil and other media as well. I have never really had an issue with the paper I was using, at least not to this extent, so that's why i was surprised! Sometimes, certain supplies just don't go well with certain paper. I will be trying them on my Arches paper next. I also love seeing young artists explore art supplies and seeing their face light up when they have found something they love! Thanks for watching and for adding to the conversation! Have a lovely day!

  • @ChantelleArts
    @ChantelleArts 5 місяців тому +1

    These look so good, might have to pick them up ☺☺

  • @GeekieGock
    @GeekieGock 5 місяців тому +2

    Huge fan of you, your art, your channel!!!
    I have had really great success with Strathmore 500 series, hot press paper, in ready cut sheets. I also love the texture of their 500 series cold press because it's smoother than others, but still just enough texture to make it fun lol...I personally prefer this to any other cotton paper I've tried, including Arches!
    Also, I haven't tried museum aquarelle (which I'm sure are awesome), but in addition to the 120 A.D. pencils, the mondeluz line by Kohinoor offers a really powerful punch of additional colors (with some dupes)... But these colors don't totally disappear when you water them down, like Derwent watercolor pencils do.
    I get a lot of enjoyment watching your pieces come together from that first mark you make on the page.. It's been very helpful seeing all the positives and even what you find to be any negatives of specific products .... unfortunately, there is no art supply store near me, so I can't test things out in that way. You're honest opinions are something I've come to rely on... And you've never steered me wrong!! Thanks for putting so much amazing energy into all you are doing here and sharing with us! Keep up the great work, Shana!! 🩵

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much! This comment made me feel so appreciated and seen! You have really made my day, and I'm so glad that you have found my videos to be helpful!
      I have tried a few of the Modeluz pencils and really enjoy them! I did a video on their set of greys. It was a lot of fun! I used to have more of them when I was in my teens, but I don't have many anymore. I have had my eyes on the Museum Aquarelle, and they might be the next investment. Not that I need any more pencils! Lol
      I will definitely have to give the strathmore 500 series a try! Thank you for the suggestion!
      Thank you for watching, I appreciate you! 🥰

    • @GeekieGock
      @GeekieGock 5 місяців тому

      @@CautionArtistatPlay you deserve to be and feel seen!!! I'm glad I could be a part of making your day! I find your videos to be helpful, satisfying, informative, fun, easy to watch and so much more!!! It is evident in all that you make, how much passion for your craft that you bring to the table!
      Watercolor pencils are so neat... You are definitely an expert! I know what you mean about not needing any more pencils lol... I'll probably get the museum aquarelle in the next year, unless I psych myself out on the price! I'm going to scope out your vid on the mondeluz gray tones (which I have lol), but I'll prob discover that I've already seen it 😂... Like you, I reach for the inktense the most, because of the vibrance!
      This piece came out so nice and I love that you included the polychromos for detail! I hope the Strathmore 500 series works for you!! Looking forward to seeing the next piece of art you make! 🩵

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much!! People like you are why I have this channel! I am so glad that you enjoy my content so much!! 😊

    • @GeekieGock
      @GeekieGock 5 місяців тому +1

      @@CautionArtistatPlay ❤️ I love it!

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому

      Thanks! That means a lot! 😊

  • @robyounce644
    @robyounce644 5 місяців тому +1

    Love it, great video thank you Shanna!!!

  • @Gypsisoul1111
    @Gypsisoul1111 5 місяців тому +1

    Oh hecky darn- I have these water color pencils too. And I also have hot and cold press Arches paper I bought 2 years ago! I haven’t used it all yet cuz I got side tracked by numerous sketch books 😂. I also love Lindsay and saw that video. Love your videos too.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      Lindsay is a treasure! Thank you so much for watching, I'm glad you enjoy my videos! 💖

  • @natlisan
    @natlisan 5 місяців тому +1

    I use these pencils on both Arches and Saunders Waterford! You have enough texture that you can do a couple layers before having to dissolve the pencil, you also don't get the lifting as easily.

  • @MichisCrafts80
    @MichisCrafts80 5 місяців тому +1

    I loved your video! I have the full set of albrecht durers and a 36 polychromos set. I Love using them together too. I use baohong academy hot pressed wcpaper, and the colors are super vibrant! I never wanted to use solvents with color pencils, so, i am trying to use them more as color pencils with water instead... still i am getting used to them. But i love them. But try cold pressed, they seem to work great as well. Lovelly video and painting.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much! I think I have some of that same paper! I will definitely give it a try! 🥰

  • @loveandlife4222
    @loveandlife4222 5 місяців тому +2

    Derwent Inktense is not watercolor. You can’t really compare it to the faber castell pencils. Inktense is ink. Faber castell is watercolor.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      Here is some information from the Derwent website FAQ's
      Q: "Is Derwent Inktense classed as an ink or watercolour product?"
      A: "It is classed as a watercolour product but it has different properties to a regular watercolour pencil, making it look like an ink."
      So, it's a watercolor product that looks like an ink, according to Derwent. They are different for sure, but both brands fall into the category of water-soluble colored pencils. Also, regular watercolors are more vibrant than the Albrecht Durer too, so either way, the Albrecht Durer were not coming out as saturated as I had hoped they would.
      www.derwentart.us/about/product-faqs/derwent-inktense-faqs/

  • @veggiechef39
    @veggiechef39 5 місяців тому +1

    Soooo pretty! I love hiw you combine color pencils with watercolor pencil. What is the paper you're using?

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I am using the Fluid 100 Hot Pressed Watercolor paper. I generally love this paper, just not with these pencils.

  • @joymiller9668
    @joymiller9668 5 місяців тому +1

    This still ended up being Beautiful.

  • @lozantoninocreations
    @lozantoninocreations 5 місяців тому +1

    I've seen Lindsay talk about sizing a few times and it blows my mind that paper can stop working. So you didn't have issues with Inktense? I only have old watercolour paper and want to learn how to draw properly with Inktense and do more than what I've done with them previously (simple things only and Disney colouring pages) and don't plan on buying new paper.
    I wonder about certain climates and if it makes a difference to the paper or if we are all screwed with our old paper.

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому

      I was mind blown when I heard her talk about it as well! I haven't noticed any issues with this paper and Inktense, but come to think if it, it's been a bit since I used Inktense on this block. I think my last Inktense piece was done on the cold press from the same company (with no issues), and the one before that was done on Arches Hot Press. However, my recent Graphitint piece was done on this paper, and I didn't have any issues with that, not that I recall anyway.
      There's a chance that climate can play a role, I live in the same state as Lindsay, so she and I will probably run into similar issues if that is the case. Either way, it's a bummer, especially if you like to stock up on your favorite paper!

  • @Art_by_Nicole
    @Art_by_Nicole 5 місяців тому +1

    As always, love your video! Would you consider doing a step-by-step tutorial? I still would love to learn art from you 😊
    I have watched videos about watercolour pencils, but..I don’t know…I don’t particularly like them. To me it looks ‘messy’. Maybe I like colours to be more bright? Don’t know exactly how to describe it.
    And…when I saw you using the white I was just thinking ‘oh nooo, that white is so crappy!’ And you said at the same moment 😂

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +1

      Haha! Yeah, I'm really picky about white pencils! I have to say, I think I definitely like Inktense better than regular watercolor pencils. They are more my speed as far as saturation and layering goes. So, I am still trying to get used to using regular watercolor pencils. But when I feel more comfortable, I will have to try and do a step by step tutorial! Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @Art_by_Nicole
      @Art_by_Nicole 5 місяців тому +1

      @@CautionArtistatPlay maybe that’s the problem; we’ve gotten used to Inktense. Maybe we are a bit spoiled 🤫😂
      I once tried watercolour pencils (Bruynzeel) but I felt a bit like a ten-year old doing craft 🫣
      And I so get what you mean with the white pencils. On your recommendation I use the Chinese white. Recently I’ve heard that the Staedler permanent white pencil is even better. I instantly thought ‘I have to tell Shana this’ 😂 Haven’t tried it yet but apparently you can draw or write with it on glass. On glass with a pencil😱

    • @Art_by_Nicole
      @Art_by_Nicole 5 місяців тому +1

      @@CautionArtistatPlay oh and the white from Faber castell can be a good use if I want to lighten the colour a bit. I tried the Chinese white on red to make pink, but the white was too opaque. 🧐🤣

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому

      😂😂😂 yeah, the faber-castell is good for mixing and lightening a color a bit!

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому

      @Art_by_Nicole you may be right! It's hard to compete with Inktense! Ooh, now I have another white I need to try! Lol. The soft white by Holbein is a show stopper too!

  • @joymiller9668
    @joymiller9668 5 місяців тому +1

    Sometimes I think the FaberCastell Albrecht Durer pencils and Markers look Brighter on Wood Pulp, I think it’s because they don’t sink into the Paper as much?…. Same goes for my cheaper brands.

  • @queenria7
    @queenria7 5 місяців тому +3

    Another thought on lightfastness: I'm on a German art forum where a nice person from Faber Castell is posting and we're able to ask questions. I asked last year about the lightfast testing and he said they test them dry, not activated with water. But like I said in my other comment, I didn't find any difference between the dry swatch and the water-activated swatch when I did my own lightfast test. So the difference in the stars, and difference in the results, even when the stars are the same as the Polychromos, must be due to the binder they use...

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому +3

      That is a very good point about the binder! Thank you for sharing the information from the company rep! That's good to know!

  • @teresamazotti1315
    @teresamazotti1315 5 місяців тому +2

    I had no idea that the sizing in paper could go bad!!

    • @CautionArtistatPlay
      @CautionArtistatPlay  5 місяців тому

      Neither did I until I heard Lindsay talking about it! It's crazy!!