I don't think its a surprise that Thieaudio puts out great tuning on great drivers, just a matter of looking to see if what they did matches what you prefer.
Great review as usual paul! These iems seems really good for what they are offering. But I do think that the package is excessively big for what it is offering and also I would have expected modular cable for the price. This is what I feel idk how other users feel 😅
Yep, the cable as I said is one people used to buy separately as it came with their older tribrids. Should they make a modular version of it? Yes, but its still a nice cable. Packaging is big for what is inside though.
Tough, Tony/Akros may have compared those two. I haven't heard Kato, but Hype2 has been gaining hype, more of a slow burning set rather than a lot of hype at the launch.
Paul, I noticed these on Dan's sound tests they really sounded great, particularly in comparison to the AFUL P5... no comparison in vocals, which is what i care about mostly. Nice review, lots of value, thanks. Still digging my Olina SEs so not hugely motivated to upgrade.
I will admit that the two AFUL sets I have tried have a sound that isn't quite my favorite. Thieaudio, Olina is much closer to what I like. Other people seem to dig P5 and P8, but yeah, don't chase AFUL hybrids if they sound a bit off to you.
Great Set! I was set on getting one of the Yumes, the EA500 or the Kara, now I'm not sure... Stage like you described the Hype 2 has is what I'm looking for. Which is the cheaper options you have reviewed that come somewhat close or have nicer than average stage arounds $150? So I can go check your reviews... Thanks
Yume 2 has a similar Sonion sound and I thought of that one as I was listening to Hype2. Both sets got the more natural sound, but Hype2 has the extension and slightly better general tuning. Yume 2 also ran into QC issues so it fell off the radar when sets started to fail. There isn't much around that does what Hype2 does on stage and I don't think I am the only one who said that. EA500 is good though, but I'd get their mod kit for an extra $10usd so you can tweak it.
Oh man, looks like these will be my first $300 set. Hopefully i can get a good deal later in 2024. With my Sonus, EA500, Hexa, S12 Pro, etc.. the likes of the Nova all the way to the EA1000/Chopin just don't seem like a big enough jump to warrant the cost. Depending on the what the market delivers in the $300 range in 2024, the Hype 2 looks like the one for me. Also looking forward to your Hype 4 review, if you plan on getting them!
Hey, I'm also thinking about getting the hype 2 as my first $ 300 set, currently i daily hexa and im looking for an upgrade, please let me know what you think about the hype 2 if u do get one.
For the last year or so I've been wanting a set like the Truthear Hexa but with more bass, based on the graph this might be that. Also I finally get to try a ThieAudio set.
Not yet, I think DaVinci was sent for a tour so still some weeks away. If I didn't have Dusk with EQ, I'd be more interested in the others but Dusk is fine if you can EQ the bass curve.
you mentioned Linsoul doesn't talk a lot about the Hype2 vocals magic... I think that is smart and intentional. They don't want to take marketing focus or sales from Hype 4 or 10, which have much greater profit margins. I'm guessing they make $50 more on a Hype 4 sale than a Hype 2 sale. Probably $400 more on a Hype 10 sale than a Hype2 sale. BAs don't cost very much.
Maybe, Hype 2 did fine. I think most of the marketing sheets are generic and rarely hit specifics as that will leave someone one. The more generic, the wider net of potential customers. Hades is playing out the opposite case, marketing to a very specific group.
I never heard P5, but I'd bet some money that Hype 2 is much better. I think the main complaint on P5 was the BA sound to it. I never heard it, read a couple reviews to see that it wasn't worth pursuing.
@@PaulWasabii I got it last year, compared with Blessing2, Timeless and Chopin and I still prefer it over all mentioned. Chopin is better tuned but has noticeable BA timbre and worst fit. P5 warm and relaxed stock tuning has better volume scaling, it does also support EQ better than Chopin who is capped in its technicalities. The Chopin BA timbre was obvious when switching to Blessing2 but B2 is too intense with the peak at the treble+ lack of bass.
$2-300 is the awkward range as no set is perfect. That is why you are seeing sets closer to $400, more drivers, more Sonions, more tuning. That is what happened with Hype4. I usually say spend less or spend more in that range for that reason. I would also wait, there are a couple hybrids coming out, DaVinci, Relentless, maybe others. I am listening to Elysian Pilgrim now. I am like everyone else, waiting to see the one that rules them all. There just isn't a clear leader in that range yet, but lately I have been rotating through Hydro, Dusk, and now Pilgrim. I haven't heard the others, Hype4, Zigaat pair, Pula/Sliivo/meyer sets. Too many hybrids coming in a short period of time.
Regardless of fit, I'd still take the S12 as I do love a good planar. It takes a lot of drivers to get you close to a planar. Fit is really tough and Thieaudio makes shells on the larger size in general. Sometimes it is just a little bit extra in the wrong place.
I shook mine as I had read that too. I don't know if it develops later or some rattled out of the box. I was certainly curious about it. Some chance they stepped up their QC after the initial feedback too. Mine is recent, I got it later than most people who pre-ordered and noticed the issue.
If you had to choose between the Hype 2, Quintet, and Simgot EA1000, any thoughts? Specifically keen on instrumental/movie/tv soundtracks, but vocals too, was curious on your thoughts!
Quintet is a bit of a technical specialist, I was one of the minority who hear the harsh part of it but its technically decent. Hype 2 vs EA1000 is tough for a non-obvious reason, I like my high quality DD with BA next to them. If you can deal with the Hype 2 midbass level, dipped a bit, but lower treble vs EA1000 which might sound warmer and a bit brighter. EA1000 is more lower focused, Hype 2 is more like a very nice hybrid, very nice from bass all they way up. Those two are tough, for soundtracks, I like the immersive sound on Hype 2.
Thanks for so much insight! I just got the Hexa and EM6L to try out today, I actually think I'm going to purchase the EA500LM due to the cost and how I hear it's gotten close to the EA1000, and then see how I like it before moving forward to maybe the Hype 2 (or possibly Hype 4 with a sale...). The EA500LM seems to be the best bang for the buck option right now from what I hear!@@PaulWasabii
Good review, what are the nozzles/ ear fit like. I bought a pair of s12's which i like but they were a pain to get a consistent fit due to not going far enough in ear.
Different fit issues, the nozzle isn't shallow but going to be a millimeter or so bigger than typical. Typical for Thieaudio though and hybrids that need more room. People will call them slightly chonky though and I think that goes for most of their hybrid/tribrids. But yeah, not the S12 issue and I know what you are talking about on that.
Depends on how you deal with the midbass dip with rock. Some people can't do it, sounds too thin. Hype 2 is a much safer tuning though. Hekili is a cool set but a lot more energetic than Hype 2
Hey man, I have S12 Pros and I love them. However, I'm looking for an upgrade around 300 bucks. I'm kinda lost. I want something more resolving, more accurate and with deep and wide stage. What would you suggest?
More resolving than the S12 isn't going to happen at $300. You might get more natural, less bright, but more resolving than a planar is much harder than you think. Try doubling your budget.
Thieaudio Monarch MkII and Hype 2 graph almost identically. It really looks ot me like Thieaudio wanted to offer the marketplace an inexpensive Monarch performance. *edit* nevermind, I see now in researching Hype2 (or Hype - 2 as is printed on the shell) that HBB said the exact same thing like four months ago... I just caught up to that video.
I think it can be best general, safe signature in that price range. If you are looking to max out details or technicals or want warmer, I think there are other alternatives. I think people call it safe, but I think it generally works for a large group who aren't looking for specific characteristics. The $200-$300usd range is tough, usually there is no single best, but one that has what you are looking for.
Hype 4 and 10 and just landing in people's hands now. I am hoping to borrow a 10 later. 4 should be the sweet spot on price and sound quality but not enough impressions out there yet.
Sorry, haven't heard them. Also haven't heard of anyone saying Hype 2 is better than SA6. I think Hype 2 is a nice, safe set but maybe not at the SA6 level
I never heard P5 but P5 reviews were mixed. Some people said the timbre is off, other problems. Hype 2 is a safer choice in that it doesn't have deal breaker problems. If I had P5, I wouldn't upgrade. At this point in the year where there are going to be a lot of releases, I'd wait until the end of the year and see if a better hybrid appears or Hype 2 goes on sale for 11-11.
@@PaulWasabii yes i'm waiting for 11.11 and hope the truthear nova launches in the meanwhile. seems like a cheaper blessing 2 dusk and i hope another good value offering. as it is the hype 2 os too expensive for me. (and a lot more expensive than the p5) Also the timeless II and kiwi ears melody can be good surprises. I'm actually looking for a more expensive/ better set that's a good allrounder.
I never heard Tea 2 so not sure. The graphs are kinda similar, but the midbass bump on Hype 2 sticks out and lack of 5k dip that you got on the Teas. Is that better? Depends on what you like
Its ok, that tucked bass shelf is neither good nor bad, it is your preference but in that style, the bass is quite good. Still not basshead by any means, but balanced.
Nice review. I like my OG Thieaudio Oracle and might consider adding these to my collection, as well...
I don't think its a surprise that Thieaudio puts out great tuning on great drivers, just a matter of looking to see if what they did matches what you prefer.
Great review as always. Those are very nice! Another set to consider.
Indeed, thank you
Great review as usual paul! These iems seems really good for what they are offering.
But I do think that the package is excessively big for what it is offering and also I would have expected modular cable for the price.
This is what I feel idk how other users feel
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Yep, the cable as I said is one people used to buy separately as it came with their older tribrids. Should they make a modular version of it? Yes, but its still a nice cable. Packaging is big for what is inside though.
Really enjoying your reviews. No hype (pun intended), full of data and yet also not too pedantic. Thanks for this!
Thank you
Great review as always 👏
Thanks again!
thank you for the detailed review! I am currently consider purchasing Hype 2 to compare with my own Moondrop Kato and enjoy some metal and rock music
Tough, Tony/Akros may have compared those two. I haven't heard Kato, but Hype2 has been gaining hype, more of a slow burning set rather than a lot of hype at the launch.
Paul, I noticed these on Dan's sound tests they really sounded great, particularly in comparison to the AFUL P5... no comparison in vocals, which is what i care about mostly. Nice review, lots of value, thanks. Still digging my Olina SEs so not hugely motivated to upgrade.
I will admit that the two AFUL sets I have tried have a sound that isn't quite my favorite. Thieaudio, Olina is much closer to what I like. Other people seem to dig P5 and P8, but yeah, don't chase AFUL hybrids if they sound a bit off to you.
Great Set! I was set on getting one of the Yumes, the EA500 or the Kara, now I'm not sure... Stage like you described the Hype 2 has is what I'm looking for. Which is the cheaper options you have reviewed that come somewhat close or have nicer than average stage arounds $150? So I can go check your reviews... Thanks
Yume 2 has a similar Sonion sound and I thought of that one as I was listening to Hype2. Both sets got the more natural sound, but Hype2 has the extension and slightly better general tuning. Yume 2 also ran into QC issues so it fell off the radar when sets started to fail. There isn't much around that does what Hype2 does on stage and I don't think I am the only one who said that. EA500 is good though, but I'd get their mod kit for an extra $10usd so you can tweak it.
Love your reviews. Thanks
nice tuning man. nice
Oh man, looks like these will be my first $300 set. Hopefully i can get a good deal later in 2024. With my Sonus, EA500, Hexa, S12 Pro, etc.. the likes of the Nova all the way to the EA1000/Chopin just don't seem like a big enough jump to warrant the cost. Depending on the what the market delivers in the $300 range in 2024, the Hype 2 looks like the one for me. Also looking forward to your Hype 4 review, if you plan on getting them!
Hey, I'm also thinking about getting the hype 2 as my first $ 300 set, currently i daily hexa and im looking for an upgrade, please let me know what you think about the hype 2 if u do get one.
Good review. The shell looks really nice too.
Yeah, maybe a bit chunky, but I don't think out of the ordinary for Thieaudio
For the last year or so I've been wanting a set like the Truthear Hexa but with more bass, based on the graph this might be that. Also I finally get to try a ThieAudio set.
Hype 2 is a nice one, really a slow burner in popularity. Hype 4 and 10 put another round of eyes on it, but Thieaudio can pick drivers and tune.
@@PaulWasabii I'm thinking about Hype4 honestly. Expensive but I think it'll give me what I want, especially with bass and resolution.
Hype!
Do know how it compares to the Penon Fan 2 which has a similar configuration.??
Sorry, never heard the Fan 2.
have you had the chance to listen to the latest $300 2DD+BA sets such as da vinci or ziigaat doscinco ? how do they compare with hype2 ?
Not yet, I think DaVinci was sent for a tour so still some weeks away. If I didn't have Dusk with EQ, I'd be more interested in the others but Dusk is fine if you can EQ the bass curve.
you mentioned Linsoul doesn't talk a lot about the Hype2 vocals magic... I think that is smart and intentional. They don't want to take marketing focus or sales from Hype 4 or 10, which have much greater profit margins. I'm guessing they make $50 more on a Hype 4 sale than a Hype 2 sale. Probably $400 more on a Hype 10 sale than a Hype2 sale. BAs don't cost very much.
Maybe, Hype 2 did fine. I think most of the marketing sheets are generic and rarely hit specifics as that will leave someone one. The more generic, the wider net of potential customers. Hades is playing out the opposite case, marketing to a very specific group.
I wonder how they compare to the Performer 5. Tuning wise they looks so refined.
I never heard P5, but I'd bet some money that Hype 2 is much better. I think the main complaint on P5 was the BA sound to it. I never heard it, read a couple reviews to see that it wasn't worth pursuing.
@@PaulWasabii I got it last year, compared with Blessing2, Timeless and Chopin and I still prefer it over all mentioned.
Chopin is better tuned but has noticeable BA timbre and worst fit.
P5 warm and relaxed stock tuning has better volume scaling, it does also support EQ better than Chopin who is capped in its technicalities.
The Chopin BA timbre was obvious when switching to Blessing2 but B2 is too intense with the peak at the treble+ lack of bass.
at this price point ($300 maximum) do you have another iem you prefer ? or maybe another that is 95% as good for half the price ?
$2-300 is the awkward range as no set is perfect. That is why you are seeing sets closer to $400, more drivers, more Sonions, more tuning. That is what happened with Hype4. I usually say spend less or spend more in that range for that reason. I would also wait, there are a couple hybrids coming out, DaVinci, Relentless, maybe others. I am listening to Elysian Pilgrim now. I am like everyone else, waiting to see the one that rules them all. There just isn't a clear leader in that range yet, but lately I have been rotating through Hydro, Dusk, and now Pilgrim. I haven't heard the others, Hype4, Zigaat pair, Pula/Sliivo/meyer sets. Too many hybrids coming in a short period of time.
@@PaulWasabii interesting, sonion equiped hybrids starts well under $200 (isn h30 at $130, gizaudio galileo at $80)
Sounds great to me. I blast the volumes and all iems for me are to Bright at my volumes .
I prefer the letshuoer s12 over the hype 2. Tried both and feel like the hype 2 are bad... and the fit is a torture
Regardless of fit, I'd still take the S12 as I do love a good planar. It takes a lot of drivers to get you close to a planar. Fit is really tough and Thieaudio makes shells on the larger size in general. Sometimes it is just a little bit extra in the wrong place.
QC issues (rattling inside shell), thoughts?
I shook mine as I had read that too. I don't know if it develops later or some rattled out of the box. I was certainly curious about it. Some chance they stepped up their QC after the initial feedback too. Mine is recent, I got it later than most people who pre-ordered and noticed the issue.
If you had to choose between the Hype 2, Quintet, and Simgot EA1000, any thoughts? Specifically keen on instrumental/movie/tv soundtracks, but vocals too, was curious on your thoughts!
Quintet is a bit of a technical specialist, I was one of the minority who hear the harsh part of it but its technically decent. Hype 2 vs EA1000 is tough for a non-obvious reason, I like my high quality DD with BA next to them. If you can deal with the Hype 2 midbass level, dipped a bit, but lower treble vs EA1000 which might sound warmer and a bit brighter. EA1000 is more lower focused, Hype 2 is more like a very nice hybrid, very nice from bass all they way up. Those two are tough, for soundtracks, I like the immersive sound on Hype 2.
Thanks for so much insight! I just got the Hexa and EM6L to try out today, I actually think I'm going to purchase the EA500LM due to the cost and how I hear it's gotten close to the EA1000, and then see how I like it before moving forward to maybe the Hype 2 (or possibly Hype 4 with a sale...). The EA500LM seems to be the best bang for the buck option right now from what I hear!@@PaulWasabii
great review! will you be checking out the monarch mk3 anytime soon?
Not planned, but I think Thieaudio does real solid sets. Might borrow a Monarch down the road though
Good review, what are the nozzles/ ear fit like. I bought a pair of s12's which i like but they were a pain to get a consistent fit due to not going far enough in ear.
Different fit issues, the nozzle isn't shallow but going to be a millimeter or so bigger than typical. Typical for Thieaudio though and hybrids that need more room. People will call them slightly chonky though and I think that goes for most of their hybrid/tribrids. But yeah, not the S12 issue and I know what you are talking about on that.
This or Canon 2?
Yeah, good question that I don't know the answer as I don't have a Canon 1 or 2.
Canon 2 has less punchy, less massive bass, that's all I can say from youtube reviews)
compared with Audio Hekili which one is more suitable for instrumental/rock genre?
Depends on how you deal with the midbass dip with rock. Some people can't do it, sounds too thin. Hype 2 is a much safer tuning though. Hekili is a cool set but a lot more energetic than Hype 2
Hey man, I have S12 Pros and I love them. However, I'm looking for an upgrade around 300 bucks. I'm kinda lost. I want something more resolving, more accurate and with deep and wide stage. What would you suggest?
More resolving than the S12 isn't going to happen at $300. You might get more natural, less bright, but more resolving than a planar is much harder than you think. Try doubling your budget.
Thieaudio Monarch MkII and Hype 2 graph almost identically. It really looks ot me like Thieaudio wanted to offer the marketplace an inexpensive Monarch performance.
*edit* nevermind, I see now in researching Hype2 (or Hype - 2 as is printed on the shell) that HBB said the exact same thing like four months ago... I just caught up to that video.
Best in this price range?
I think it can be best general, safe signature in that price range. If you are looking to max out details or technicals or want warmer, I think there are other alternatives. I think people call it safe, but I think it generally works for a large group who aren't looking for specific characteristics. The $200-$300usd range is tough, usually there is no single best, but one that has what you are looking for.
Any idea how does compare to Hype 4? I wonder which one to choose.
Hype 4 and 10 and just landing in people's hands now. I am hoping to borrow a 10 later. 4 should be the sweet spot on price and sound quality but not enough impressions out there yet.
I want a bass head iem can u recommend 2,3 iems for great bass
Two recent ones, Juzear Clear and KZ Castor. You'd have to look at their graphs and see which might be better for your music.
How is this vs sennheiser ie 600? Or dunu sa6 mk2?
Sorry, haven't heard them. Also haven't heard of anyone saying Hype 2 is better than SA6. I think Hype 2 is a nice, safe set but maybe not at the SA6 level
In your opinion is this worth the extra $ over the performer 5? And why.
I never heard P5 but P5 reviews were mixed. Some people said the timbre is off, other problems. Hype 2 is a safer choice in that it doesn't have deal breaker problems. If I had P5, I wouldn't upgrade. At this point in the year where there are going to be a lot of releases, I'd wait until the end of the year and see if a better hybrid appears or Hype 2 goes on sale for 11-11.
@@PaulWasabii yes i'm waiting for 11.11 and hope the truthear nova launches in the meanwhile. seems like a cheaper blessing 2 dusk and i hope another good value offering. as it is the hype 2 os too expensive for me. (and a lot more expensive than the p5) Also the timeless II and kiwi ears melody can be good surprises. I'm actually looking for a more expensive/ better set that's a good allrounder.
Are these 2 pin or MMCX?
2pin
does it rattle upon tapping?
Mine does not but I know why you asked. I don't know if it develops later but mine is fine
Better than mangird tea2?
I never heard Tea 2 so not sure. The graphs are kinda similar, but the midbass bump on Hype 2 sticks out and lack of 5k dip that you got on the Teas. Is that better? Depends on what you like
Thanks, your reviews are awesome
Does it rattle?
Mine didn't rattle but just mailed it to someone so will see shortly how it handled more travel
What aboth the bass
Its ok, that tucked bass shelf is neither good nor bad, it is your preference but in that style, the bass is quite good. Still not basshead by any means, but balanced.
Hype probably means hybrid performer but was abbreviated for marketing points.
Good catch. I like the set, but wish the name was different.
Josh valour should learn from you lmao
lol..he is doing fine