I grow in living soil and I still need to learn ...but my biggest trick is 2 weeks of everyday foliar spray of Cal/Mag just before switching in Flower. I never see a deficiency again. Cheers
LED grown plants on average require much more magnesium than sun or HID grown plants. IMO this is why you hear so much more about cal-mag products than you did 5-10+ years ago.
Very real , I've noticed it affects different strains differently as well ! Really harsh on chemdawg , got so bad I junked my LEDs and switched back to CMH and the issue went away .
Ahh! No wonder. I thought I was going crazy. What have you done to supplement? "More Cal-Mag" in liquid form? Epsom Salt(Mag), Bone Meal(Cal), etc....? Thanks!
Running coco drip with RO water, I used to measure my cal mag but lately have just been adding a random glug from the bottle when I mix nutes in my 20 gallon bucket. Never had a hint of a cal mag problem, but maybe that's because my nutes (CNS 17) also have cal mag. My point, don't worry about it too much, but make sure there is at least some cal mag available at all times and you're good to go. BTW, I also stopped using PH up with amazing results, I just start at 6.2 and let the PH fall until I mix up the next batch of nutes, sometimes it falls to ~5.0 which the data says is way too acidic, but it works and the plants love it.
1:22 Despite being sometimes labeled as a ‘secondary nutrient’, calcium is actually at higher levels than phosphorus (P) in hydroponic feed solutions designed for vegetative cannabis and can be on a par during flowering.
I've only been grown for a few years this is my fourth year and just had the problem with cal-mag learn that mistake the hard way watch the beautiful beautiful stinky girl now I understand a little more why thank you
I wonder if he speaks in that radio voice all the time? He slips up every once in a while and speaks regularly. Would be awesome if he would tone down the wacky weatherman voice.
I only buy fertilizer that has calcium and magnesium in the mix. That decision has been a big help to me. I prefer to prevent rather than chase issues. Love the content you guys produce. Keep up the good work.
@@ScottyReal420 my plants are small with no bag appeal but as raggedy assed grower as I am they're still better than anything I paid for the past fifty years. Started this growing thing in September (Minnesota legalized effective 8/1/23), finished three photoperiod as my first grow and ran two autos that are now both in flower on my second. So far every seed I planted has germinated and prospered. The hardest thing about growing so far was replacing the laundry tub faucet to handle a reverse osmosis and add an electrical sub panel and a couple 20 amp circuits. My grows aren't perfect looking but they do their job thanks to the information that people like you put out there. I'm a late starter, did my first grow at 72 and am proof that anyone can do this.
@@AD270479 At 73 it's highly unlikely that I'll be able to remember what I meant seven minutes ago let alone seven months ago. I have been using the Coast of Maine line of soil and dry amendments since July and highly recommend that line.
Mycorrhizal Inoculant, oyster shell, crab meal, feather meal, azomite, kelp meal, humus, neem seed meal, biochar, worm castings, black gold, ocean forest, raw cane sugar, molasses powder, clay pebbles.. fementend activated yeast & compost tea cocktails then of course a couple other secret ingredients.. lol.. seems to work well for me.. im a midwest outdoor full sun guy.. :)
Calcium is used in conjunction with Nitrogen in Veg. After Veg Calcium isn’t used nearly as much by the plant. Magnesium is essentially a site multiplier for whatever stage of growth the plant is in, in veg it helps more leaves grow, in early flower it produces more bud nodes, as flowering continues helps produce more calyxes and more hairs per calyx and more resin glands as well. Magnesium to me is just as essential as NPK and actually more essential than N through the whole grow because Nitrogen is only required for the first half. Problem is that Companies always attach calcium to magnesium for some reason and what happens as flowering proceeds the plant needs more Magnesium but isn’t using the Calcium and the calcium builds up and becomes hard to break down and starts causing lockouts the more you use Cal-Mag to fix Mag deficiency in later flowering. You want a product that has calcium attached to nitrogen so when your done vegging your not adding not necessary nutrients. Similarly look for Magnesium attached to Phosphorus or Potassium for flowering to reduce calcium build up.
Calcium is essential all the through the grow and even more so in flower . Ever seen a tomato or pepper deficient in calcium during frutiing ? It becomes undeveloped undersized and blossom end rot. If the plant didn’t use a ton of calcium in flower that’s a site fire way to get bud rot
@@timpage5021 it absolutely isn’t. It’s way more heavy in Veg because it’s attached to the nitrogen use. Once you stop using nitrogen you don’t need nearly as much calcium. Some people use N through the whole grow, some people stop after the plant is done stretching and new leaf growth stops. Nitrogen isn’t necessary in late flower at all in my style of growing so that means I also need to drastically reduce calcium use or else it will build up. It’s an absolute fact the style I grow. If you grow like I do the cal-mag combo becomes a problem because I stop nitrogen use which lowers calcium intake requirements. Calcium is essential for the plant to process nitrogen, those 2 go hand in hand. If your using as much calcium in flower as you do in veg then your building up calcium because the plants uses it in like a 3/1 or 4/1 ratio with nitrogen if remember correctly.
@@deltaromeo5542 cut calcium out in flower and see what happens. You lack basic knowledge of nutrient requirements for fruiting plants. Cannabis , tomatoes , peppers and eggplant for example all require the same levels of nutrients for optimal plant health especially when fruiting . There’s a reason why all the top growers and big commercial facilities use line ups like Jacks , Masterblend , Athena , Front Row , because they all use calcium nitrate for their calcium and nitrogen source. Big Ag uses the same calcium based fertilizer to feed the world.
I add alot of oyster shell flower to my soil every time I amend it. It never burns the plants, and always allows proper nitrogen uptake. Leaves are all rich green, not yellowish, or too dark of green. If I see tips burning, I may add some liquid Cal Mag once a week during flowering. Only if the tips are burning though.
Next time you think you have a deficiency (assuming you're not running salt based liquid nutrients) consider that you may just be watering too much/too little and causing lockout If you are using liquid salt based nutes like the fox farm trio, you're likely not using their flushing agent correctly and have a lot of salt building up as well as PH issues
Take this from someone who has been involved in drug development for ion channel modulators: To make things a little clearer. The big problem with both is not that they are competing for the same negatively charged ions in the soil when it comes to absorption, because the neutral salt itself cannot be taken up. The problem is that most ion channels (which facilitate the uptake of these ions) are often not perfectly selective, since the selectivity filter and activation gate often allow multiple ions to pass through the same pore. The problem is that only both ions compete for the same channel. In return, the uptake is limited. It's exactly the same mechanism for many channels in all living organisms. This is the same problem you would have as a human if you took magnesium and calcium supplements at the same time.
@@branjosnow6244 The most practical approach would be to have the correct concentration of calcium and magnesium ions in the solution to begin with. In cases of deficiency, it would be most effective to supplement only the required ion using the same transporter.
I sure use a lot of cal mag. I just go with what my plants tell me and when the leaves twist and get spotty, I use a little and they turn around. I also use coco which eats a little calcium as times goes by. You have to account for the plant and the coco. I add prilled cal mag to Grow Dots and I have seen excellent results. Cal mag is for coco growers mostly. It is a quick fix for coco growers most of the time. Use some prilled slow release cal mag and you won't need any liquid. The plants takes what it needs.
I still have a full bottle of cal mag that I never used. When I first started 4 years ago that’s all you heard, need more cal mag. Learned rather quickly that wasn’t true. 👊🏼 💯
Prove it .. prove u have that bottle of cal mag predator! Lol What's up brotha I was looking thru the comments trying to learn some new stuff and seen ur name lol feels like when u bump into one of ur friends randomly at Walmart or somethin lol
In my home made mix i been finding cal-mag is great for my extended veg-cycle plants (>8weeks) in 5 gal bags. Otherwise its not needed. My compost is very heavy leaf litter and a nice chunk of pine needles. Stuff works miracles tho if you do notice a deficiency! I use Humboldts brand
@desmond5567 Nah, I let them dry before I grind them. The little bit of extra protein is good for the worms. Salmanella is not likely to survive passage through the bin nor do I consider it a risk in the soil anyway.
@desmond5567 I don't want to add it straight to the soil. The worms need the grit, I also add rock dust to ny bin. I do roast the crap out of the bones though, then grind them up and add them to the bin too.
Its better to soak the egg shells in a vinegar making a calcium carbonate solution, much easier for the plants to absorb. takes ages for eggs shells to break down in soil making Ca available.
I just joined the whole group of growdots yes i use cal mag with iron just 3ml a week recharge once a week my favorite plant i use lst i start week 3 to week week 7 trimming leaves that cover the other flowers i use auto flower only now use to grow the 6month plants and longer now just every 3 months i get to start something new. love you're shows you make everything easier to understand and I mean everything
I usually grow 4-6 plants of the same strain. I give them all the same nutrients but 1 or 2 usually gets cal mag deficient so i add it in recommended dosage and it doesn't seem to do anything. Its frustrating because thats the only issue i really have had so far. There is so much info online its hard to decide which route your taking.
I thought I had all kinds of deficiencies until I realized it was Pot-Bound in 9 days (pint pot stupid me). After I got rid of all my small pots and started going straight to 4gal, WOW what a health difference. I thought it was a watering problem, nitrogen problem, mag problem, virus. NOPE. POT SIZE was the answer. The roots grow so much faster than you think. Avoid that issue and go straight to 4-5gal when small.
thats interiesting. i actually do put them in pint pots as seedlings then transplant about 12-14 days in. its an intresting take, i wonder is this is the issue. so complicated biology lol :) @@brianbmk1720
wow i really appricate this information. thanks so much i shall give it a go.. i do use oraganics biobizz so im thinking now youve said it could br moore nitrogen issue rather than cal mag. im gunna increase the grow feed for the next go im thinking i usually go half but may need a little more :) @@fishy2939
What's up Scotty, huge fan of Recharge so I bought the biggest bag of Grow Dots I could at my local grow store. How would I use Grow Dots through all the transplants if they are time released? I usually start in plugs,, to 1 Gal then to final 5 Gal. ???
When using Grow Dots you don't want to up pot a lot, if you start in a solo cup with about 5 grams of grow dots the only time you'd wanna up pot is into your final pot with your Grow Dots already mixed in.
Every time I had a cal mag deficiency I used molasses ( 1/2 tsp molasses to 1 litre of water ) . Works every time. I have never bought "cal mag" from a gardening store ever .
Gypsum for calcium. Epsom salt for msgnesium. The led lights cause them to burn through magnesium. So once they go to flower i sdd 1tbsp epsom every 2 weeks. The gypsum i add 1 tbsp every otger week from the getgo. Gypsum is slso a soil conditioner, helps it not become one big chunk after topdressing gaia green. Adding these ive gotten better results for sure and i no longer use a synthetic csl mag just all organic everything
Hi all! SInce 1st of april, it is allowed to grow 3 plants in Germany, so I started a grow. Now, a question popped up: As I use rainwater to water my flowers, I wonder how much CalMag I need to use in my water. I guess, there is absolutely none in rainwater, so what would be the right amount? Is the amount given on the bottle calculated with tap water? And is there a time in flower, when I should stop giving calmag? Although I know, that my first grows will be far from perfect, I want to minimize mistakes and get the best result with small effort. One plant shows signs of Calcium deficiency as far as I could find out. This brought me to dig deeper into that topic. Thanks for help and keep on releasing that great and helpful content. Edit: btw, the plant showing these signs is an autoflowering one and now in week 2 of bloom as far as I can tell Greetings from Germany
Added it once to my Badazz OG cheese. I don’t even think it needed it it just went as routine and it got added with rhizhotonic at its early stage of life. In the stretch phase now been twisted to 12/12 for just over a week. Lots of stretching going on. It’s all a nice green colour. Plant is about 5 foot with a thick ass trunk. 1 out of 10 seeds the worst germy rates I’ve ever done. Just planted 25 Franco’s lemon cheese and them babies are already popping out them homes. yep I just chucked them in the dirt. No paper towel method just went straight from the pack to the dirt.
@Slimetimer I bought 20 seeds and only got 5 they have the worst time at popping's. Its a cheese mix strain that you have to try the Florida og compliments it well. Freebies are unreliable buy a packet and pop them.
So glad I found your channel. Love your content. Never heard of grow dots before. I ordered some. I am in week 4 of flower. Can I sprinkle some on the top of the soil?
This entire channel is an ad. for growdots /recharge, unfortunately . Not saying all the info is wrong or anything like this but his product is beginning to give me "chiropracter" vibes. I.e. cure _________with neck/back crack etc.
I add one cup of sweet dolomite food grade like in livestock feed (NO LEAD) per gallon to lucky dog off the rip indoors. Gonna have flowing point well by the fen at grow tested this spring. Think its high in calcium. Maybe even saline. The plants growing around it say so. Found nice pieces of bog wood to make pipes out of. Makes me wonder how much Ca and Mg the peat holds in it. One of the springs and one of the seeps where animals drink in the fen are favorite places to get plant water.
I mix in blended egg shells (powdered) along with powdered crab shell when I'm filling my pots. Then I use Epsom Salts to give some magnesium when I water. All with my other amendments of Dr. Earth. So far, no deficiencies of either. I also add in some DE from the very beginning.
Heat your egg shell up in a Pan before you crush them Raw egg shell need a loooooong time in earth to break down but if you heat them until they got brown dry but not dark
I find if you’d gonna throw anything on your plants just throw ph’d water on them with little recharge give them a break from just feed feed feed,I find my plants love just ph’d water n recharge once a week between feeds, this help dilute any feed that’s left from your last feed and let’s the plant use the fednutrition before you add more on the next feed concentrating nutes in your soil sometimes to a crazy high level check your run off weekly also and if it’s reading well high then U know to go lighter maybe water in between feedings should help keep soil ppm to a healthy level n avoid nut burn and lockout !!!
coconut water if needed and epsom. I throw around the idea of cows milk if I was in a bind but never tried it.I only use r.o. water too so ph is always 6.2 if you use vinegar for ph I wouldn't even think about milk or you might make school glue or something. Or too much milk would spoil your grow. But thinking fast and efficient and in a bind. Speaking in terms of reactive and not proactive 😊
First off your voice sounds exactly like one of my dearly departed friends so that was a nice little thing to hear. Now back on topic I’ve been using Cal med so I don’t know what’s the difference is with Cal Meg because I just bought a package off of Amazon it came with Bloom micro and cal med i’m assuming Cal med and Cal Meg are the same and I follow instructions. I’ve been feeding it weekly small amount but measured properly following label instructions. Now that you’ve described what the deficiency looks like I am not experiencing those so should I stop using it? I had a bumper harvest last year, which was my first year, using any nutrients additionally was made at largest harvest to date. My plants this year. Are coming in beautifully and don’t seem to be suffering. Any negative issues at the moment. So you have my question I guess is. Keep doing what I’m doing as it seems to be working or cut out the cal med and only use it if I see a deficiency popping up?
i grow autos in 3 gallon cloth pots and a 2x4 tent. dont have the right setup for photos unfortunately (space etc). cal mag is pretty much mandatory as soon as flowering starts. i use ocean forest soil. the first month all i need is ph'ed water, but with the first signs of flowering cal mag and other nutrients have to go in or the leaves start turning brown/yellow almost immediately.
Yeah Yodaman, you can do photos no problem in a 2x4. Lots of videos of it on YT. Little advice, see how high in your tent you can set your lights and measure about 18” below that as your max height for your plants. Then you’ll have a good idea on when you’ll need to flip to flower and stretch. Plants will generally stretch about double size but it is genetic dependent. If they get too big, just keep bending them down. Peace ✌️
I'm growing in coco & in my most recent nutrient batch I actually omitted calmag. I usually mix up about 5 gallons at a time and am late in flower. I was reading the bottle (probably should have started with that in the beginning haha) and it says only add it for the first few weeks of the plants life. I use gh flora series trio and the flora micro & flora bro actually already has both calcium & magnesium in it already. One of them in the exact same amount as the calmag (can't remember which) so it seems like overkill to me. I also cut out the floragro as there is also nitrogen in the micro. I've been wondering why my last few plants had never went through the senescence process. I'm hitting week 8 in 3 days and planned on taking it to week 10 so we shall see what happens.
@scotty real can I ask you a question, if you're running organic but also using cal/mag liquid with mollases in flower..... in the last 2 weeks of my photos, I am going to flush, when flushing should you also stop and cal mag too. I've found that most photos need a decent amount of cal mag. 10mg per gal for me.
I have a question I’ve been running dots recharge in promix. I had some issues in my last run but still had a great crop. My question was what possible added nutrients do you recommend adding like silica possibly? I’m not trying to feed I’m just trying to have a better outcome I’m running a viper spectra XS 1500 pro in a 32 x 32“ x63”. Tent
Silica is always a good addition, but you don't really need many supplements with Grow Dots. The best thing to do is to make sure your media is always moist.
I just watched a podcadt that said althought cal is a micro nutrient that the plsnt actully eats more cal than nitrogen at about 2 cal to 1 nitrogen so saying calcium is not needed is seeming off based on whats ive seen and what ive learned hands on, cal is very important and needs to b front loaded cause as u mentioned its bot moblie so once ur lacking it its hsrd to catch up again, i think cal is way underrated and is very important
Scotty like the show bro got thrips been hitting it crop defender it's organic and says u can spray it up to harvest i wouldn't but can these thrips jack me up just growing for fun but there autos about 26 inch high 8 weeks leaves taking a beating but flowers are fine your thoughts o 2x4 running 80 deg in home thats 78 lol how much light? Doing 18 6 thats
It will depend on how bad the thrips are and how bad you need that harvest. That spray will help keep them back but not get rid of them. you will want to clean real well before your next grow.
I use cal/mag every watering at 3ml/gal during the first half of vedg then 5-6 ml till 3rd week of flower then switch to mag/ sulphur for the rest of my grow at 5ml/gal
Me too, exactly! If folks simply over water, it could look like a lot of deficiencies too. Water logged roots dont absorb supplements, nutrients, or additives correctly
Calcium unlocks carbon in soil. A soil grower I was watching on a podcast recently pointed out that Calcium is basically a macronutrient for Cannabis. Now notice how I’m talking about Calcium, not CalMag. Magnesium is rarely deficient in soil with Cannabis growing in it. Calcium is often deficient. So when you’re adding CalMag you’re literally stuck with Mag AND Nitrogen if it’s Nitrate based. That, in my opinion, is what causes lockout. The amount of Calcium in CalMag is super unlikely to lockout unless you’re adding more than you should. And most of the issues will come from the N and Mg, not Ca. The biggest issue with Calcium feeding is that Calcium in organic setups isn’t easy to chelate. Gypsum is highly locked up as Calcium Sulphate. It takes a long time to fully break down and very little is released day to day. What I’ve been doing to fix these two issues is using Calcium Silicate and Magnesium Sulfate separately or at a 2:1 ratio. The other thing I do is pH down with Citric Acid or White Vinegar. Both create chelates of Cal and Mag. Calcium Citrate and Magnesium Citrate are easily absorbed by plants as well as the even more powerful chelate Calcium acetate and Magnesium acetate. This is what you want, calcium ions that are ready to be stripped from their bonds.
Honestly Im an organic grower so most is in my soil already but before I take my clones off of my mother's I like to add it in routine for a couple weeks as I want my calcium intake to be through the roof for healthier clones? Haven't done much experimenting with it just learned it's better for clones from what phd Harley Smith has talked about. Better understanding the nutrients on a molecular level and what they do and how they do it make it much easier to play around and have fun with them. But mostly only need more magnesium if any of the two but that's dealing with new varietys as well and I like to spray it on but you know just as well as I do that's a no go after week 3 of flower so sometimes yes it is needed 😊
Down to Earth is a great brand, but you can often find crushed oyster shells much cheaper at farm feed stores. It is sold as a chicken feed supplement to increase egg shell strength.
@@WisconsinEric worth mentioning that all the bigger cheaper bags from feed stores I've tried were much larger pieces/longer breakdown. I like that down to earth really makes it more of a powder than little rocks!
@@nordicwarrior9566 good call out, where in the plant it's occurring can also be important to help figure out what they dislike. My current grow (autos) looked great until the first week of flower and got hit hard by cal deficiency. I realized quickly a "water only" grow wasn't an option
I have always used calmag with synthetics in coco. First time I didn't when changing to Floramax nutes, manufacturer insisted it wasn't necessary . Now half my plants have magnesium deficiency .All fed exactly the same EC from same rez. So you can't win
100ppm / EC 0.2 was sufficient . never saw deficiency at that amount. total EC was about 1.2-1.5 that was running GH Flora series in rain or ro water @@Donkeykongington
@ScottyReaI420. I don't do anything special just 5-11-26 with magnesium sulfate and calcium nitrate add monopotassium at flip then back off add bring up potassium at end with potassium sulfate all in 5 gal fabric pots straight coco coir
I use that bone meal slow release and i will about that when it comes to flowering i tend to get allot of blockage and deficiencies, don't know if it's because the bone meal is not available right away but sounds like i might need more magnesium.
I've only ever seen one true deficiency - where you really need to add element missing - and that's nitrogen. Everything else 90% of the time is due to poor environment conditions, water regime, too much of certain element, that's blocking something else. Calcium bonds easily to just about anything, Phosphorus, Sulphur, locks out magnesium as well. And I've seen this way too often: since it's passive, and can only be uptaken through transportation/ moving water from the root zone, high humidity leads to calcium deficiency as well. And that's when the grower, not realising the underlying issue, starts adding Cal-Mag, and that's also when the true nightmare starts cause pretty soon everything else goes to sht Watch your plants, learn to recognise what they need. Stop blindly adding things just because it says so on the bottle
Yeah I've got cal mag lockout right now cause too much P but I knew it would most likely happen so was ready..was about to flip anyways so used the rest of my flower tent water in veg tent..lol a bit too hot.
Thanks... great job. I have been growing for a while now, both hydro and soil. I still battle with Cal/Mag issues. Mag more than Cal. Along with nitrogen these elements also seem to vary significantly between different cultivars. I enjoy variety, rarely run same twice. I guess not being able to get super dialed in is the price I have to pay. Part of the fun and still pulling some fairly dope bud. Thanks for the info. 👴
nutrients because calcium is a base which will lower the pH and lock out certain nutrients. Only happens when too much is used. That's how i understand.
i'm gonna get some real growers recharge to re-ammend some soil that I used in a previous indoor grow. I think i'll add some earthworm castings to it as well, and a couple other things. Any other recommendations besides recharge?
I re-use my ‘soil’ over and over…re-amended. It just seems to get better and better! I start with replacing 20% of it with wormcastings and a cup of Build-a-Soil’s ‘Craftblend’. Add some extra perlite and Recharge. My mix is Pro-Mix HP with some coco coir and bio-char. I sometimes add a cup of bagged cow manure and a cup of mushroom compost…sometimes my own compost… 🪴
@@toddkump9902 NIce, in addition to wormcastings, I use down to earth vegetable garden 4-4-4, and I do a water change in my fish tank with a gravel siphon and get up a ton of the organic decomposing fish poop and add that to everything, has been giving me vigourous happy growth. I did a couple grows without my fishtank poop and they were noticibly smaller in growth and color.
My autos are halfway through flower and im seeing heavy calcium deficiency, will it kill my plant before harvest? I have flushed my plants and added eggshells i ground into powder, but i also panick bought calmag, should i wait to see what the eggshells do or hit it with calmag too? I estimate about 5 weeks left till harvest if all goes well
I'd rather add calmag, than stuck with massive deficiency in mid flowering(cause that's exactly when signs will appear) where all the leaves and just getting dry and buds aren't growing much. Miss out callmag and your grow season goes to waste. Easily -70% of potential results.
OK what about with coco coir. I've had trouble when I drop the cal-mag so I essentially use it until harvest to prevent issues. I don't use coco specific nutrients.
If you coco is properly buffered you will not need it, but if it is not the coco will steal the calcium and magnesium and your plant won't get it. you will want to use it if you are using RO water too
How is GrowDots able to provide the different nutrients needed during the different stages of a veg/ flowering plant? If it sounds too good to believe, ....
the slow release technology starts realizing nutrients when they come in contact with moisture, the nutrients and made in to a prill that releases a nutrients in the correct amount based on temperature. The warm the media that quicker that nutrients release.
Hey scotty I asked on a live if there was any silica in recharge or grow dots and I think grambo told me no. Would it be reasonable to try to add that to it or should I try to find a source for silica for my girls. I did read that bamboo has high levels of silica so maybe try working that into the formula. Thanks for the great content and the knowledge everyday.
It unfortunately would not be an easy add to the recharge and when it comes to the grow dots there is only so much room in the formula so to add any thing requires things to be taken away to make room. I would suggest just finding a goo source of Silica like Silicium from Phive8 and add it to your water.
I’m 5 weeks completed in flowering and wanna know if I should completely discontinue my calcium + micro nutrient. I’m concerned because I’m using the flora pro series ca +micros which has a 14-0-0 npk. Need to cut nitrogen but not sure if it’s too early to cut ca+ micros yet ? I have no deficiencies or any toxicity . The leaves are just lighting up a bit as expected. Everything looks to be progressing nicely. I’m in coco with no amendments just synthetic hydro
I find that adding calmag, especially if I have to add a lot, I will start seeing slight N toxocity, maybe I should try some lime in my pot at the start
Im still a pretty new grower.. I've played with veg for well over a decade. But my brother in the house on probation or just with a fuckin warrant.. something was always either going wrong or spooking me where I got rid of it.. I finally picked it back up sadly right before I got off probation.. didn't work.. got rid of it.. but again about 2 months before I got off probation I started up again. Just one plant. Then 2. Now I'm back to one. But it's my third successful grow! Gorilla glue autoflower. Then apple fritter autoflower. Now THC snow reg but female. By far my first grow, the gorilla glue autoflower. Not even close. It was by far the best one. Out of 2 so far.. so... But omg it was incredible. Applebee's fritter was good stuff. But that glue had me glued and I'm a long time smoker. Can't wait to see my THC snow. But I'm definitely getting nire of that glue once this second job paycheck hits
It's all about your water calcium and magnesium are what makes water hard if you already have hard water you do not need it unless you're using coco then it's different because the coco buffers the cal mag even with hard water so you add it
I grow in living soil and I still need to learn ...but my biggest trick is 2 weeks of everyday foliar spray of Cal/Mag just before switching in Flower. I never see a deficiency again. Cheers
Foliar feeding is king
Spraying Ca is useless, cant be absorbed. Mg is absorbed due its atoms are way smaller.
Try to spray only Mg, anyway that Ca wont kill the plants
Really that's interesting I'm going to try that.
Can I use just the normal bottled nutrients Cal/Mag as foliar spray? Also have you ever seen it affect the soil if watering in organic living soil?
@@scrantondangler8068 yes and no
LED grown plants on average require much more magnesium than sun or HID grown plants. IMO this is why you hear so much more about cal-mag products than you did 5-10+ years ago.
Very real , I've noticed it affects different strains differently as well ! Really harsh on chemdawg , got so bad I junked my LEDs and switched back to CMH and the issue went away .
Ahh! No wonder. I thought I was going crazy. What have you done to supplement? "More Cal-Mag" in liquid form? Epsom Salt(Mag), Bone Meal(Cal), etc....? Thanks!
@@ImaOkie ahh ok I knew I liked growing with my sunsystem cmh The plants grew better I didn’t know y
All the videos before this said add cal mag routinely
What dies calcium or mag deficiency look like?
Running coco drip with RO water, I used to measure my cal mag but lately have just been adding a random glug from the bottle when I mix nutes in my 20 gallon bucket. Never had a hint of a cal mag problem, but maybe that's because my nutes (CNS 17) also have cal mag. My point, don't worry about it too much, but make sure there is at least some cal mag available at all times and you're good to go.
BTW, I also stopped using PH up with amazing results, I just start at 6.2 and let the PH fall until I mix up the next batch of nutes, sometimes it falls to ~5.0 which the data says is way too acidic, but it works and the plants love it.
Well duh ur trin to produce thc a
Was using water in the pH 5 range with also great results 👍 better lower than higher for sure
1:22 Despite being sometimes labeled as a ‘secondary nutrient’, calcium is actually at higher levels than phosphorus (P) in hydroponic feed solutions designed for vegetative cannabis and can be on a par during flowering.
Correct. Elemental calcium ~130ppm and element phosphorus around 50ppm.
Isn't magnesium supposed to be higher then calcium, I've heard 3 parts calcium and 5 parts magnesium
@@jivebeartv Other way around. 3:1 Ca:Mg. Most hydroponic recipes call for aroiund 150ppm Ca:50ppm Mg
I've only been grown for a few years this is my fourth year and just had the problem with cal-mag learn that mistake the hard way watch the beautiful beautiful stinky girl now I understand a little more why thank you
I wonder if he speaks in that radio voice all the time? He slips up every once in a while and speaks regularly. Would be awesome if he would tone down the wacky weatherman voice.
I immediately hear "damn son, where you found this" hahaha
He's always real..that's Scotty for ya
What weather channel do you watch? Lol
I reuse my potting soil and add cal-mag, humic acid, molasses, kelp extract, Alaska fish fertilizer. good stuff
I use to but I ran out and never bought it again, And my plants look great.😎👊🏾🌱
I only buy fertilizer that has calcium and magnesium in the mix. That decision has been a big help to me. I prefer to prevent rather than chase issues. Love the content you guys produce. Keep up the good work.
What kind of soil are you using? Never mind, you said fertilizer and not soil.
I like you style.
@@ScottyReal420 my plants are small with no bag appeal but as raggedy assed grower as I am they're still better than anything I paid for the past fifty years. Started this growing thing in September (Minnesota legalized effective 8/1/23), finished three photoperiod as my first grow and ran two autos that are now both in flower on my second. So far every seed I planted has germinated and prospered. The hardest thing about growing so far was replacing the laundry tub faucet to handle a reverse osmosis and add an electrical sub panel and a couple 20 amp circuits. My grows aren't perfect looking but they do their job thanks to the information that people like you put out there. I'm a late starter, did my first grow at 72 and am proof that anyone can do this.
@@StanMNdirt What are you on about? You put fertilizer IN soil. It's not a completely separate growing medium.
@@AD270479 At 73 it's highly unlikely that I'll be able to remember what I meant seven minutes ago let alone seven months ago. I have been using the Coast of Maine line of soil and dry amendments since July and highly recommend that line.
Love your short and concise videos.
Thankyou, it's always easier to grow the perfect garden when reminded of the Cal/mag principals
Mycorrhizal Inoculant, oyster shell, crab meal, feather meal, azomite, kelp meal, humus, neem seed meal, biochar, worm castings, black gold, ocean forest, raw cane sugar, molasses powder, clay pebbles.. fementend activated yeast & compost tea cocktails then of course a couple other secret ingredients.. lol.. seems to work well for me.. im a midwest outdoor full sun guy.. :)
Calcium is used in conjunction with Nitrogen in Veg. After Veg Calcium isn’t used nearly as much by the plant. Magnesium is essentially a site multiplier for whatever stage of growth the plant is in, in veg it helps more leaves grow, in early flower it produces more bud nodes, as flowering continues helps produce more calyxes and more hairs per calyx and more resin glands as well. Magnesium to me is just as essential as NPK and actually more essential than N through the whole grow because Nitrogen is only required for the first half. Problem is that Companies always attach calcium to magnesium for some reason and what happens as flowering proceeds the plant needs more Magnesium but isn’t using the Calcium and the calcium builds up and becomes hard to break down and starts causing lockouts the more you use Cal-Mag to fix Mag deficiency in later flowering. You want a product that has calcium attached to nitrogen so when your done vegging your not adding not necessary nutrients. Similarly look for Magnesium attached to Phosphorus or Potassium for flowering to reduce calcium build up.
Calcium is essential all the through the grow and even more so in flower .
Ever seen a tomato or pepper deficient in calcium during frutiing ? It becomes undeveloped undersized and blossom end rot.
If the plant didn’t use a ton of calcium in flower that’s a site fire way to get bud rot
@@timpage5021 it absolutely isn’t. It’s way more heavy in Veg because it’s attached to the nitrogen use. Once you stop using nitrogen you don’t need nearly as much calcium. Some people use N through the whole grow, some people stop after the plant is done stretching and new leaf growth stops. Nitrogen isn’t necessary in late flower at all in my style of growing so that means I also need to drastically reduce calcium use or else it will build up. It’s an absolute fact the style I grow. If you grow like I do the cal-mag combo becomes a problem because I stop nitrogen use which lowers calcium intake requirements. Calcium is essential for the plant to process nitrogen, those 2 go hand in hand. If your using as much calcium in flower as you do in veg then your building up calcium because the plants uses it in like a 3/1 or 4/1 ratio with nitrogen if remember correctly.
@@deltaromeo5542 cut calcium out in flower and see what happens.
You lack basic knowledge of nutrient requirements for fruiting plants.
Cannabis , tomatoes , peppers and eggplant for example all require the same levels of nutrients for optimal plant health especially when fruiting .
There’s a reason why all the top growers and big commercial facilities use line ups like Jacks , Masterblend , Athena , Front Row , because they all use calcium nitrate for their calcium and nitrogen source.
Big Ag uses the same calcium based fertilizer to feed the world.
Insightful and interesting. I'm gonna try this thanks.
@@deltaromeo5542 So, Epsom salt is better option ?
You are smart to be on team Recharge! That stuff is a must. It has always helped me.
he owns it
@@eviltvcompany well that was a good investment 🤑
Soft Water areas NEED to use CalMag... end ov!! We know what the primary and secondary nutrients are but CalMag is essential for SOFT WATER areas!
Good morning my man!!! Loving you an all that you do to get this info to your viewers. As always sending love from Bama❤❤❤
Hell yeah, Thank you!
From greene County al here brother...
@@brianmadison2977 Roll Tide
I add alot of oyster shell flower to my soil every time I amend it. It never burns the plants, and always allows proper nitrogen uptake. Leaves are all rich green, not yellowish, or too dark of green. If I see tips burning, I may add some liquid Cal Mag once a week during flowering. Only if the tips are burning though.
I occasionally have to add a little bit. It's nice being able to just pick up a bottle off my shelf and add to my feeding.
Next time you think you have a deficiency (assuming you're not running salt based liquid nutrients) consider that you may just be watering too much/too little and causing lockout
If you are using liquid salt based nutes like the fox farm trio, you're likely not using their flushing agent correctly and have a lot of salt building up as well as PH issues
Overwatering is #1 cause of major problems that growers bring on themselves.
truth
Water Board your plants to learn the Truth !!!!!!
Take this from someone who has been involved in drug development for ion channel modulators: To make things a little clearer. The big problem with both is not that they are competing for the same negatively charged ions in the soil when it comes to absorption, because the neutral salt itself cannot be taken up. The problem is that most ion channels (which facilitate the uptake of these ions) are often not perfectly selective, since the selectivity filter and activation gate often allow multiple ions to pass through the same pore. The problem is that only both ions compete for the same channel. In return, the uptake is limited. It's exactly the same mechanism for many channels in all living organisms. This is the same problem you would have as a human if you took magnesium and calcium supplements at the same time.
So do you mean, give calcium and magnesium on separate occasions and not together?
@@branjosnow6244 The most practical approach would be to have the correct concentration of calcium and magnesium ions in the solution to begin with. In cases of deficiency, it would be most effective to supplement only the required ion using the same transporter.
@@M.Taterra Ty 👍
I sure use a lot of cal mag. I just go with what my plants tell me and when the leaves twist and get spotty, I use a little and they turn around. I also use coco which eats a little calcium as times goes by. You have to account for the plant and the coco. I add prilled cal mag to Grow Dots and I have seen excellent results. Cal mag is for coco growers mostly. It is a quick fix for coco growers most of the time. Use some prilled slow release cal mag and you won't need any liquid. The plants takes what it needs.
What ppm of cal mag do you use?
Around wk 4 I water in Epsom salt. It helps in so many ways. It also is a preventive for multiple deficiency
How much a litre do you use.
@dewaynehill2127 please 🥺 share your secrets. 🙈🙉🙊🙏🏼
@@billyballsup2685 1tsp per gal
@@billyballsup26851 tablespoon per gallon
I add two teaspoons of Epsom salts dissolved in hot water added to 5 gallon bucket.
Egg shells and epsilon salts go into my compost teas , no problems so far the last three years
EPSILON SALT - hmmm - where can I get some?
I still have a full bottle of cal mag that I never used. When I first started 4 years ago that’s all you heard, need more cal mag. Learned rather quickly that wasn’t true. 👊🏼 💯
Prove it .. prove u have that bottle of cal mag predator! Lol What's up brotha I was looking thru the comments trying to learn some new stuff and seen ur name lol feels like when u bump into one of ur friends randomly at Walmart or somethin lol
In my home made mix i been finding cal-mag is great for my extended veg-cycle plants (>8weeks) in 5 gal bags. Otherwise its not needed. My compost is very heavy leaf litter and a nice chunk of pine needles. Stuff works miracles tho if you do notice a deficiency! I use Humboldts brand
the calcium in almonds is water soluble. 1/4 cup contains 87mg. easy to use crush them then soak in water then strain but not necessary.
The Alex Jones of cannabis 😂
I grind eggshells and sprinkle them into my worm bin, I started drying and grinding bones as well.
@desmond5567 Nah, I let them dry before I grind them. The little bit of extra protein is good for the worms. Salmanella is not likely to survive passage through the bin nor do I consider it a risk in the soil anyway.
@desmond5567 I don't want to add it straight to the soil. The worms need the grit, I also add rock dust to ny bin. I do roast the crap out of the bones though, then grind them up and add them to the bin too.
Its better to soak the egg shells in a vinegar making a calcium carbonate solution, much easier for the plants to absorb. takes ages for eggs shells to break down in soil making Ca available.
@@Nealjones85 You seem to be replying to a comment that you didn't bother to read. I don't add eggshells to the soil.
rofl "worm bin" i need to slow down on the smoke 😂😂😂, well at least it wasn't totally worthless information!
I just joined the whole group of growdots yes i use cal mag with iron just 3ml a week recharge once a week my favorite plant i use lst i start week 3 to week week 7 trimming leaves that cover the other flowers i use auto flower only now use to grow the 6month plants and longer now just every 3 months i get to start something new. love you're shows you make everything easier to understand and I mean everything
I do a feed, water, water, feed, water, water cycle and use 1-2 ml/G with every feeding. so far so good!
I usually grow 4-6 plants of the same strain. I give them all the same nutrients but 1 or 2 usually gets cal mag deficient so i add it in recommended dosage and it doesn't seem to do anything. Its frustrating because thats the only issue i really have had so far. There is so much info online its hard to decide which route your taking.
I thought I had all kinds of deficiencies until I realized it was Pot-Bound in 9 days (pint pot stupid me). After I got rid of all my small pots and started going straight to 4gal, WOW what a health difference. I thought it was a watering problem, nitrogen problem, mag problem, virus. NOPE. POT SIZE was the answer. The roots grow so much faster than you think. Avoid that issue and go straight to 4-5gal when small.
thats interiesting. i actually do put them in pint pots as seedlings then transplant about 12-14 days in. its an intresting take, i wonder is this is the issue. so complicated biology lol :)
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wow i really appricate this information. thanks so much i shall give it a go.. i do use oraganics biobizz so im thinking now youve said it could br moore nitrogen issue rather than cal mag. im gunna increase the grow feed for the next go im thinking i usually go half but may need a little more :) @@fishy2939
What's up Scotty, huge fan of Recharge so I bought the biggest bag of Grow Dots I could at my local grow store. How would I use Grow Dots through all the transplants if they are time released? I usually start in plugs,, to 1 Gal then to final 5 Gal. ???
When using Grow Dots you don't want to up pot a lot, if you start in a solo cup with about 5 grams of grow dots the only time you'd wanna up pot is into your final pot with your Grow Dots already mixed in.
Every time I had a cal mag deficiency I used molasses ( 1/2 tsp molasses to 1 litre of water ) .
Works every time.
I have never bought "cal mag" from a gardening store ever .
Certain strains need more calmag like Fire OG and im sure theres other nutes that work. Really like this video
I've been feeding calmag and silica and my plants are alot bigger and healthier then the last grow.
Gypsum for calcium. Epsom salt for msgnesium. The led lights cause them to burn through magnesium. So once they go to flower i sdd 1tbsp epsom every 2 weeks. The gypsum i add 1 tbsp every otger week from the getgo. Gypsum is slso a soil conditioner, helps it not become one big chunk after topdressing gaia green. Adding these ive gotten better results for sure and i no longer use a synthetic csl mag just all organic everything
How do you feed gypsum in water? 1 Gramm per liter? Tabelspoon is 5 gramm ?
Hi all! SInce 1st of april, it is allowed to grow 3 plants in Germany, so I started a grow. Now, a question popped up:
As I use rainwater to water my flowers, I wonder how much CalMag I need to use in my water. I guess, there is absolutely none in rainwater, so what would be the right amount?
Is the amount given on the bottle calculated with tap water? And is there a time in flower, when I should stop giving calmag?
Although I know, that my first grows will be far from perfect, I want to minimize mistakes and get the best result with small effort.
One plant shows signs of Calcium deficiency as far as I could find out. This brought me to dig deeper into that topic.
Thanks for help and keep on releasing that great and helpful content.
Edit: btw, the plant showing these signs is an autoflowering one and now in week 2 of bloom as far as I can tell
Greetings from Germany
Hallo ist vielleicht zu spät aber vielleicht hilft es ja doch .
Kauf dir ein preiswertes ec Meter und füge calmag bis zum ec von 0.5 hinzu .
Added it once to my Badazz OG cheese. I don’t even think it needed it it just went as routine and it got added with rhizhotonic at its early stage of life. In the stretch phase now been twisted to 12/12 for just over a week. Lots of stretching going on. It’s all a nice green colour. Plant is about 5 foot with a thick ass trunk. 1 out of 10 seeds the worst germy rates I’ve ever done. Just planted 25 Franco’s lemon cheese and them babies are already popping out them homes. yep I just chucked them in the dirt. No paper towel method just went straight from the pack to the dirt.
Had a weird looking Badass Og that didn't pop. Didn't bother me because it was a free one. 9 though uffda
@Slimetimer I bought 20 seeds and only got 5 they have the worst time at popping's. Its a cheese mix strain that you have to try the Florida og compliments it well. Freebies are unreliable buy a packet and pop them.
So glad I found your channel. Love your content. Never heard of grow dots before. I ordered some. I am in week 4 of flower. Can I sprinkle some on the top of the soil?
This entire channel is an ad. for growdots /recharge, unfortunately .
Not saying all the info is wrong or anything like this but his product is beginning to give me "chiropracter" vibes.
I.e. cure _________with neck/back crack etc.
Your voice gives my cat the zoomies😂
Its true though. I didnt add it and now i do and my plants look AMAZING! i use tabwater so its necessary!
I add one cup of sweet dolomite food grade like in livestock feed (NO LEAD) per gallon to lucky dog off the rip indoors. Gonna have flowing point well by the fen at grow tested this spring. Think its high in calcium. Maybe even saline. The plants growing around it say so. Found nice pieces of bog wood to make pipes out of. Makes me wonder how much Ca and Mg the peat holds in it. One of the springs and one of the seeps where animals drink in the fen are favorite places to get plant water.
I use epsom salt and milk. I think it works well.
I use CALiMAGic as a supplement in my hydroponic grow using RO water. Still new so no idea how it would go without but so far the grow has gone well.
Definitely a good thing to add when running RO
it is need for things like RO water
I mix in blended egg shells (powdered) along with powdered crab shell when I'm filling my pots. Then I use Epsom Salts to give some magnesium when I water. All with my other amendments of Dr. Earth. So far, no deficiencies of either. I also add in some DE from the very beginning.
Diatomaceous earth is a good natural source of silica too!
With Dr. Earth, mites, and flies became an issue . The end product was good . Issues went away with advanced neuts.
Heat your egg shell up in a Pan before you crush them
Raw egg shell need a loooooong time in earth to break down but if you heat them until they got brown dry but not dark
awesome video as always. my house has a limefilter installed, so i need to supplement calcium before watering my plants.
defiantly!
I find if you’d gonna throw anything on your plants just throw ph’d water on them with little recharge give them a break from just feed feed feed,I find my plants love just ph’d water n recharge once a week between feeds, this help dilute any feed that’s left from your last feed and let’s the plant use the fednutrition before you add more on the next feed concentrating nutes in your soil sometimes to a crazy high level check your run off weekly also and if it’s reading well high then U know to go lighter maybe water in between feedings should help keep soil ppm to a healthy level n avoid nut burn and lockout !!!
Is it true running LED lights will use more cal mag im on my first indoor run and I'm using cal mag every other feeding so far they're doing great
I have heard this but find it is strain deponent
Just stumbled onto your show! Im glad I did, great info Thanks
Haha I remember, I got blocked on Dude Grows for saying this.. how times have changed. Cheers mates Grow on
Cal-mag ? 1 tsp per gal , every other week in promix . I add a tsp . of epsom a couple times during veg .
coconut water if needed and epsom. I throw around the idea of cows milk if I was in a bind but never tried it.I only use r.o. water too so ph is always 6.2 if you use vinegar for ph I wouldn't even think about milk or you might make school glue or something. Or too much milk would spoil your grow. But thinking fast and efficient and in a bind. Speaking in terms of reactive and not proactive 😊
Interesting.
@@ScottyReal420cow/mag😅
"Our favorite plant"🤣🤣🤣 Way tow the line boss😉😉😉 Anyways I use eggshells and epsom salt to cover my bases to feed the deeds of "My Favorite Plant"😗😗😗
"toe" the line.
My plant is so sensitive, I have to walk on egg shells around them. They have PTSD from a previous grow, omg.
First off your voice sounds exactly like one of my dearly departed friends so that was a nice little thing to hear. Now back on topic I’ve been using Cal med so I don’t know what’s the difference is with Cal Meg because I just bought a package off of Amazon it came with Bloom micro and cal med i’m assuming Cal med and Cal Meg are the same and I follow instructions. I’ve been feeding it weekly small amount but measured properly following label instructions. Now that you’ve described what the deficiency looks like I am not experiencing those so should I stop using it? I had a bumper harvest last year, which was my first year, using any nutrients additionally was made at largest harvest to date. My plants this year. Are coming in beautifully and don’t seem to be suffering. Any negative issues at the moment. So you have my question I guess is. Keep doing what I’m doing as it seems to be working or cut out the cal med and only use it if I see a deficiency popping up?
i grow autos in 3 gallon cloth pots and a 2x4 tent. dont have the right setup for photos unfortunately (space etc). cal mag is pretty much mandatory as soon as flowering starts. i use ocean forest soil. the first month all i need is ph'ed water, but with the first signs of flowering cal mag and other nutrients have to go in or the leaves start turning brown/yellow almost immediately.
You don't need any extra space for photos, some people even pop seeds directly into 12/12 to keep them petite and then just increase density/quantity
Yeah Yodaman, you can do photos no problem in a 2x4. Lots of videos of it on YT.
Little advice, see how high in your tent you can set your lights and measure about 18” below that as your max height for your plants. Then you’ll have a good idea on when you’ll need to flip to flower and stretch. Plants will generally stretch about double size but it is genetic dependent. If they get too big, just keep bending them down.
Peace ✌️
I'm a rookie but I'm scrogging photos in my 4x2 and having a blast two plants at a time.
@@MinnesotaGrower just remember they'll stretch after you flip to flower!
@@nk-dw2hmmy net is only 8" above the pot so my first run stayed in the bottom third of the tent
I'm growing in coco & in my most recent nutrient batch I actually omitted calmag. I usually mix up about 5 gallons at a time and am late in flower. I was reading the bottle (probably should have started with that in the beginning haha) and it says only add it for the first few weeks of the plants life. I use gh flora series trio and the flora micro & flora bro actually already has both calcium & magnesium in it already. One of them in the exact same amount as the calmag (can't remember which) so it seems like overkill to me. I also cut out the floragro as there is also nitrogen in the micro. I've been wondering why my last few plants had never went through the senescence process. I'm hitting week 8 in 3 days and planned on taking it to week 10 so we shall see what happens.
@scotty real can I ask you a question, if you're running organic but also using cal/mag liquid with mollases in flower..... in the last 2 weeks of my photos, I am going to flush, when flushing should you also stop and cal mag too.
I've found that most photos need a decent amount of cal mag. 10mg per gal for me.
I have a question I’ve been running dots recharge in promix. I had some issues in my last run but still had a great crop. My question was what possible added nutrients do you recommend adding like silica possibly? I’m not trying to feed I’m just trying to have a better outcome I’m running a viper spectra XS 1500 pro in a 32 x 32“ x63”. Tent
Silica is always a good addition, but you don't really need many supplements with Grow Dots. The best thing to do is to make sure your media is always moist.
Ty im adding silica to my grow dots and recharge
foliar spraying with silicic acid is best. @@chrismorrison1925
Hey, just a thought, try getting a bigger light for that grow space. I run a 2x4 grow tent with 2 vipar spectra xs 2000's hope this helps.
I just watched a podcadt that said althought cal is a micro nutrient that the plsnt actully eats more cal than nitrogen at about 2 cal to 1 nitrogen so saying calcium is not needed is seeming off based on whats ive seen and what ive learned hands on, cal is very important and needs to b front loaded cause as u mentioned its bot moblie so once ur lacking it its hsrd to catch up again, i think cal is way underrated and is very important
Scotty like the show bro got thrips been hitting it crop defender it's organic and says u can spray it up to harvest i wouldn't but can these thrips jack me up just growing for fun but there autos about 26 inch high 8 weeks leaves taking a beating but flowers are fine your thoughts o 2x4 running 80 deg in home thats 78 lol how much light? Doing 18 6 thats
It will depend on how bad the thrips are and how bad you need that harvest. That spray will help keep them back but not get rid of them. you will want to clean real well before your next grow.
@@ScottyReal420 I'll get what I can and spray it down with bleach next time thanks scotty 👍
Growing organic myself fermented nettles use bout one once of ferment juice to gallon of water and spray .Seems to knock wee feckers down
I use cal/mag every watering at 3ml/gal during the first half of vedg then 5-6 ml till 3rd week of flower then switch to mag/ sulphur for the rest of my grow at 5ml/gal
Me too, exactly! If folks simply over water, it could look like a lot of deficiencies too. Water logged roots dont absorb supplements, nutrients, or additives correctly
Hey Scotty another good vid thanks sir. A question for the masses. Im going to run coco any advice for a first time? Thank you all.
Calcium unlocks carbon in soil. A soil grower I was watching on a podcast recently pointed out that Calcium is basically a macronutrient for Cannabis. Now notice how I’m talking about Calcium, not CalMag. Magnesium is rarely deficient in soil with Cannabis growing in it. Calcium is often deficient. So when you’re adding CalMag you’re literally stuck with Mag AND Nitrogen if it’s Nitrate based. That, in my opinion, is what causes lockout. The amount of Calcium in CalMag is super unlikely to lockout unless you’re adding more than you should. And most of the issues will come from the N and Mg, not Ca. The biggest issue with Calcium feeding is that Calcium in organic setups isn’t easy to chelate. Gypsum is highly locked up as Calcium Sulphate. It takes a long time to fully break down and very little is released day to day.
What I’ve been doing to fix these two issues is using Calcium Silicate and Magnesium Sulfate separately or at a 2:1 ratio. The other thing I do is pH down with Citric Acid or White Vinegar. Both create chelates of Cal and Mag. Calcium Citrate and Magnesium Citrate are easily absorbed by plants as well as the even more powerful chelate Calcium acetate and Magnesium acetate. This is what you want, calcium ions that are ready to be stripped from their bonds.
Thanks for sharing.
Honestly Im an organic grower so most is in my soil already but before I take my clones off of my mother's I like to add it in routine for a couple weeks as I want my calcium intake to be through the roof for healthier clones? Haven't done much experimenting with it just learned it's better for clones from what phd Harley Smith has talked about. Better understanding the nutrients on a molecular level and what they do and how they do it make it much easier to play around and have fun with them. But mostly only need more magnesium if any of the two but that's dealing with new varietys as well and I like to spray it on but you know just as well as I do that's a no go after week 3 of flower so sometimes yes it is needed 😊
@ScottyReaI420. Sound's good to me
this is a case of too much information making you stupid. LMAO
Crushed oyster shell from down to earth in my beds👍🏼👍🏼💚
Down to Earth is a great brand, but you can often find crushed oyster shells much cheaper at farm feed stores. It is sold as a chicken feed supplement to increase egg shell strength.
@@WisconsinEric worth mentioning that all the bigger cheaper bags from feed stores I've tried were much larger pieces/longer breakdown. I like that down to earth really makes it more of a powder than little rocks!
@@matthewherod1057 Excellent point. DTE is a great brand and the prices are very good.
But you don't want "super slow release" if you are battling calcium deficiency, you need it fixed quickly.
Try calcium acetate. Life changer.
I use a lot shimp heads and egg shells in my work farm never. Had a problem with cal or mag
always nice when you can use what is around you.
I'm a fisherman by trade.
Excellent video thank you.
Much appreciated information 🙏🏽
Little rust spots on the leaves is that a sign of a cal mag defecency
Often yea, you need to know ph and other parameters though
Could be light damage too
@@nordicwarrior9566 good call out, where in the plant it's occurring can also be important to help figure out what they dislike.
My current grow (autos) looked great until the first week of flower and got hit hard by cal deficiency. I realized quickly a "water only" grow wasn't an option
It doesn't necessarily mean a deficiency. It could be as the first reply mentioned a PH issue. So second the first reply.
I use cal-mag religiously in my dwc set up. I back off incrementally during flower.
I used it back in my DWC days also because of the RO water.
I have always used calmag with synthetics in coco. First time I didn't when changing to Floramax nutes, manufacturer insisted it wasn't necessary . Now half my plants have magnesium deficiency .All fed exactly the same EC from same rez. So you can't win
What ppm do you use of the calmag?
100ppm / EC 0.2 was sufficient . never saw deficiency at that amount. total EC was about 1.2-1.5
that was running GH Flora series in rain or ro water
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@@eggspanda2475 cool. Thanks!
1 tsp per gallon make sure PH 6.2 with coco coir
Thx as always bud! Any help for a new Gardner I much appreciated
Any time!
Coco requires a little calmag every feeding, regardless if your nutrients have it or not. Why not! Why wait for it to become too late.😉
I use calcium nitrate and magnesium sulfate with salt based fertilizer. No cal mag needed
@ScottyReaI420. I don't do anything special just 5-11-26 with magnesium sulfate and calcium nitrate add monopotassium at flip then back off add bring up potassium at end with potassium sulfate all in 5 gal fabric pots straight coco coir
I use that bone meal slow release and i will about that when it comes to flowering i tend to get allot of blockage and deficiencies, don't know if it's because the bone meal is not available right away but sounds like i might need more magnesium.
@ScottyReaI420. I'm down for any topics relating our favorite flower. I'm probably not as knowledgeable but I'm always up for a good conversation.
I only use cal mag when I want a darker leaf and I have never folier sprayed
I've only ever seen one true deficiency - where you really need to add element missing - and that's nitrogen. Everything else 90% of the time is due to poor environment conditions, water regime, too much of certain element, that's blocking something else.
Calcium bonds easily to just about anything, Phosphorus, Sulphur, locks out magnesium as well.
And I've seen this way too often: since it's passive, and can only be uptaken through transportation/ moving water from the root zone, high humidity leads to calcium deficiency as well.
And that's when the grower, not realising the underlying issue, starts adding Cal-Mag, and that's also when the true nightmare starts cause pretty soon everything else goes to sht
Watch your plants, learn to recognise what they need. Stop blindly adding things just because it says so on the bottle
Yeah I've got cal mag lockout right now cause too much P but I knew it would most likely happen so was ready..was about to flip anyways so used the rest of my flower tent water in veg tent..lol a bit too hot.
Hell yeah, thanks for sharing, and i agree don't just do things because your buddy or the bottle said so. Know what and why you are doing it!
Mr. Horticulture Smarty Pants ^
Please reference a RHD Chart hahahah for Optimum Humidity Levels Vs Leaf Temperature
Thanks... great job. I have been growing for a while now, both hydro and soil. I still battle with Cal/Mag issues. Mag more than Cal. Along with nitrogen these elements also seem to vary significantly between different cultivars. I enjoy variety, rarely run same twice. I guess not being able to get super dialed in is the price I have to pay. Part of the fun and still pulling some fairly dope bud. Thanks for the info. 👴
Yes I just started use cal-mag plants leafs started turning yellow then brown
PH below 6.5 and shouldn't be an issue, maybe dumping too much stuff is creating issues?
Yep, chuck call mag in the mix, plants are 👍
Cal mag is a must if ya go soilless,i.e. coco or rw
not necessarily, if you have a good buffered media and are using a a quality nutrient line you should not need it.
I always have issues how much to give. But i keep it to 350/450 ppm calmag and feed once every second week. Plants seem okay
nutrients because calcium is a base which will lower the pH and lock out certain nutrients. Only happens when too much is used. That's how i understand.
How do they get all these nutrients in nature
There are in the soil, and get replenished thought things decomposing and composting into microbiology and nutrition for the plants
i'm gonna get some real growers recharge to re-ammend some soil that I used in a previous indoor grow. I think i'll add some earthworm castings to it as well, and a couple other things. Any other recommendations besides recharge?
I re-use my ‘soil’ over and over…re-amended. It just seems to get better and better! I start with replacing 20% of it with wormcastings and a cup of Build-a-Soil’s ‘Craftblend’. Add some extra perlite and Recharge. My mix is Pro-Mix HP with some coco coir and bio-char. I sometimes add a cup of bagged cow manure and a cup of mushroom compost…sometimes my own compost… 🪴
Something in there to add aeration and help prevent compaction might be good like rice hulls or perlite.
@@toddkump9902 NIce, in addition to wormcastings, I use down to earth vegetable garden 4-4-4, and I do a water change in my fish tank with a gravel siphon and get up a ton of the organic decomposing fish poop and add that to everything, has been giving me vigourous happy growth. I did a couple grows without my fishtank poop and they were noticibly smaller in growth and color.
My autos are halfway through flower and im seeing heavy calcium deficiency, will it kill my plant before harvest? I have flushed my plants and added eggshells i ground into powder, but i also panick bought calmag, should i wait to see what the eggshells do or hit it with calmag too? I estimate about 5 weeks left till harvest if all goes well
I'd rather add calmag, than stuck with massive deficiency in mid flowering(cause that's exactly when signs will appear) where all the leaves and just getting dry and buds aren't growing much. Miss out callmag and your grow season goes to waste. Easily -70% of potential results.
OK what about with coco coir. I've had trouble when I drop the cal-mag so I essentially use it until harvest to prevent issues. I don't use coco specific nutrients.
If you coco is properly buffered you will not need it, but if it is not the coco will steal the calcium and magnesium and your plant won't get it. you will want to use it if you are using RO water too
How is GrowDots able to provide the different nutrients needed during the different stages of a veg/ flowering plant?
If it sounds too good to believe, ....
Cause it slowly dissolves its layers they've had similar products out for decades.
the slow release technology starts realizing nutrients when they come in contact with moisture, the nutrients and made in to a prill that releases a nutrients in the correct amount based on temperature. The warm the media that quicker that nutrients release.
@ScottyReal420 that sounds Wild. Must have took a long time to figure out the correct way to make it so its all on time
Hey scotty I asked on a live if there was any silica in recharge or grow dots and I think grambo told me no. Would it be reasonable to try to add that to it or should I try to find a source for silica for my girls. I did read that bamboo has high levels of silica so maybe try working that into the formula. Thanks for the great content and the knowledge everyday.
It unfortunately would not be an easy add to the recharge and when it comes to the grow dots there is only so much room in the formula so to add any thing requires things to be taken away to make room. I would suggest just finding a goo source of Silica like Silicium from Phive8 and add it to your water.
@@ScottyReal420I use Phive8 SiLicium. Works perfectly and no PH changes at all. Great show!!
I’m 5 weeks completed in flowering and wanna know if I should completely discontinue my calcium + micro nutrient. I’m concerned because I’m using the flora pro series ca +micros which has a 14-0-0 npk. Need to cut nitrogen but not sure if it’s too early to cut ca+ micros yet ? I have no deficiencies or any toxicity . The leaves are just lighting up a bit as expected. Everything looks to be progressing nicely. I’m in coco with no amendments just synthetic hydro
Great info, I just started using Grow Dots last Friday!!
Hope you like them!
How are they doing?
good just started using them.@@bustownbc2787
Would be curious to know how this would translate to deep water culture
I find that adding calmag, especially if I have to add a lot, I will start seeing slight N toxocity, maybe I should try some lime in my pot at the start
Im still a pretty new grower.. I've played with veg for well over a decade. But my brother in the house on probation or just with a fuckin warrant.. something was always either going wrong or spooking me where I got rid of it..
I finally picked it back up sadly right before I got off probation.. didn't work.. got rid of it.. but again about 2 months before I got off probation I started up again. Just one plant. Then 2. Now I'm back to one. But it's my third successful grow!
Gorilla glue autoflower. Then apple fritter autoflower. Now THC snow reg but female.
By far my first grow, the gorilla glue autoflower. Not even close. It was by far the best one. Out of 2 so far.. so... But omg it was incredible. Applebee's fritter was good stuff. But that glue had me glued and I'm a long time smoker.
Can't wait to see my THC snow. But I'm definitely getting nire of that glue once this second job paycheck hits
It's all about your water calcium and magnesium are what makes water hard if you already have hard water you do not need it unless you're using coco then it's different because the coco buffers the cal mag even with hard water so you add it
Sea 90 Ocean mineralizer has it all and in perfect balance. Why add just one or two micronutrients at a time when you need them all in unison.