I'm surprised Idina Menzel has not yet made an appearance on your list. There are plenty of iffy moments. The Tony's and the Oscars are just a few examples.
I dunno about all of you but the most recognizable role that she’s played (again, in my opinion) is Elfie in Wicked (the wicked witch of the west idk how to spell her name) You’re right, there are a lot of iffy moments for her but there were quite a few in more recent performances of Wicked. I know that she has since left that show so when I say recent I mean maybe the last ten times she preformed it. So that means if you just look at the soundtrack you won’t see it One of the biggest moments is the ending of Defying Gravity. It’s a really easy part to be flat on, and if you’re not flat then it takes a lot out of you. She is a diva for sure but there’s a lot that comes with that and it’s saddening to see the toll it’s taken on her voice
sour cream i’m not bragging. i was having trouble with it too. it was just an observation that people in my particular production were struggling with it, me included.
By the looks of it, she’s really holding tension in her jaw which is going to farce to sound to resonate at the back of the throat rather than in her soft pallet. The fact you can physically see the tension being held is what’s causing her to sound “strained” whereas on the recording it sounds more open and you can here she’s resonating in her soft pallet which is healthier for singers. One of the main reasons for held jaw tension can be nerves but obviously no one knows exactly why she’s got so much tension. It’s not terrible but if she just thought about her placement whilst belting this could’ve been an amazing performance.
Thank you so much for mentioning Elaine's note! I've been bothered by it ever since I first heard it as a kid, idk how they even let that be a part of the album. Like you can even see her giving it her all during that part in the documentary, I just don't get it
OK SO LOOK Here's my thing about that bit. I genuinely will overlook anything with Stritch but I'll ESPECIALLY give that a pass BECAUSE it's part of what has made her so iconic. She was bold and brassy and like an entire half-note flat right there and she clearly doesn't have the air for it and just gives out like 10 seconds in but she just DOESN'T GIVE A HECK and I think that's very Joanne of her! Not only did they "let it be a part of the album", they actually BOOSTED HER MIC for that because she was so outrageously audacious that they were kind of in awe of it. Sorry, not meaning to sound angry at all. :P Just wanted to throw that small defense in!
@@AustinNebbia That actually makes sense in that context, it does seem like a choice Joanne would make. Objectively it doesn't sound "right" but I get why it works at least in the world of the show
I have not seen or heard BatBoy and I don’t know Kaitlyn Hopkins, so don’t call me biased but there was literally nothing wrong with her vocals she sounded great. Her voice is very old broadway
I agree. I think the only qualm OP has about it is that the sustained notes are in her mix and not chest, which is a relatively new trend in musical theater (to chest EVERYTHING and hardly if ever mix) Her resonance/vowels/intonation were all good it was just mixed which I wish was appreciated more
5:41 YOU MEAN LITERALLY SO SHARP SHES LITERALLY SINGING A D, A WHOLE NOTE ABOVE. OMG I HATE IT JUST SS MUCH AS YOU DO HOW DID NO ONE RECOGNIZE THAT AND FIX IT
I had the same problem with the My Fair Lady revival! So many times, I felt that the pronunciation was too perfect. The background singers of “Wouldn’t It Be Loverly” made it sound like a karaoke track.
People lifting their eyebrows to hit high notes/belts must not understand that their forehead tension is just creating vocal tension!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS SO FRUSTRATING
Theres a difference between raising your eyebrows and furrowing your eyebrows. Raising your eyebrows helps you stay on pitch furrowing can create tension
when people with accents sing, they don’t sound like they have an accent. the only time you can hear an accent in a song is because it’s forced. take ella mai for example. when she sings she doesn’t have an accent.
Lilly and Macy I was about to agree with this but that’s only true if you’re singing in your native language or a language that has the same or a similar accent associated with it
I think the issue with some of these arent the singers themselves but just how the music is written because theres no way anyone could make those notes sound good nin some of those songs
Caitlynn Bunn I like it because he plays the character so well. He’s supposed to he kinda dopey and his voice reflects it perfectly. Granted his character is much more played out in the movie than the musical.
Now that's more like it. I saw the previous video and the lack of reasoning in some of the parts was what threw me off. This felt a lot more human and a lot less like a schoolyard bully :)
I know this is months old, but it just got recommended to me. NPH admits in his biography that was his worst performance, iirc its been awhile since I read it, but he really wanted to do company and when asked to do it he jumped, but due to commitments didn't rehearse at all and showed up a day or two before the performance. What we see in the video is an editors best effort to splice 4 or 5 different performances together that wasn't a complete train wreck. So what we see if the best out of multiple attempts.
I'd actually argue that people speaking cockney would tend to drop the "r", it would be something like "lufley" or "lufeley" but the film version of the song isn't exactly sung a great cockney accent to begin with. Not a cockney speaker myself so if someone here is I'd love to know as this is something that has irked me for years 😂 Loved the video though, very entertaining!
I mean I am a massive fan of the mamma Mia movies, the soundtracks, and Jeremy Irvine (he’s great in a lot of his other stuff) but based on this, he cannot sing. His singing in the movie was real cringey. Maybe it’s just the sound editing, but no thanks.
NicoleShortSkirtSinger! I'm dead. This whole video made me LOL and disturb my neighbors. I teach musical theatre and dubbed Laura Benanti BORE-Nanti. The role just seemed so ill-fitting and all those "posh" vowels and vocal posturing. You are a wise person in your assessments and a witty commentator as well
Okay but with being alive the vowels are super hard to work with and the notes in the key it’s set in is in a spot where it’s super fucking weird to sing in. Try belting alive.. it sounds like a cat is dying (no disrespect to Sondheim, I love his work but the vowel i is just so ugly)
the thing many people need to realize is these performers are singing ALL THE TIME because it’s their career and their voices aren’t always perfect because they’re using it so much
Elaine Stritch in Company is just so deliciously bad lol I laugh every time I hear it. Especially knowing how hard she was trying to get the note right. That ain’t it, chief!
Me and my mom saw dear Evan Hansen this past summer and it was AMAZING, but Evan couldn’t get the top note on waving through a window without transitioning to like a falsetto-ish voice, which took a hot second, but it was still the best production I’ve ever seen
THE BEGINNING HAS ME DEAD HONESTLY THAT WAS THE REACTION
Carrie Wood it is now a TikTok
“you’re *FLAT*”
AHHHHG, MEEEE
When he said "you can't even carry a tune" I was honestly shocked he didn't follow up with "even if it had handles!"
Every time i see that guy i want to smack him in the face with tuba he makes me so angry
♭
"You can't even carry a fucking note!"
that zoom on NPH’s eyes during being alive killed me
bertasu he’s normally a good singer. But this role just really wasn’t it
I love him but ooooof
Some were like “I don’t get why these are bad”
And others were just
“KILL IT WITH FIRE AHHHHHHH”
Being alive is not flattering for NPH’s voice to say the least.
I thought you were talking about just being alive in general 🤣🤣🤣
he sounds like kids in my high school choir lol
'Being Alive' is the name of the song he sings in this, for anyone thinking NPH's existence was the cause of his problems.
In that song, he reminds me of this one kid in my acting group who thinks he can sing but can't.
Raul esperanza was the best bobby for me personally
Y'all know that meme where it's like "they hated Jesus because he told the truth"? That's what this is.
Exactly
This needs to be pinned
ikr
👍 except we won't crucify you crapbag we love you
Lieutenant Thalia FACTS
The fact that Emma Watson’s performance in beauty and the beast isn’t on this list offends me on a personal level
That's because that can't even be called singing or harmonizing, that shit was just yelling with autotune.
Emelie Sylvén omg omg this is the best thing I’ve read, thank u for saying this
Why? She was really good. I still don’t get why everyone is saying she sounded terrible when her voice (autotuned or not) is amazingn
Part 3?
come watch my video lol
_Why would you post something so bold yet controversial_
I saw the Amélie cover and I was scared that you were about to clown on my girl pippa
gurl me too i was about to tHROW HANDS
Sis same! I got so scared
me too i was scared lolol
Yeah no they legally can't do that
Yes but they were technically still wrong throwing out Three Figs like that. Where's the pitchy? I literally can't find it.
no shade but nph is sounding like a first year vocal student at a liberal arts college
lostmybadger and not a good one
and yet somehow he gets picked as one of the director's favorites and gets cast in every show
He really is... but his acting WAS fantastic in that role, so I’ll let it slide... (maybe)
Can we pls pls talk about Amanda Seyfried's vibrato in the name of the game in mamma mia ,,, love her but siS
Amanda Seyfried sang Name of the Game?
Oh Wow It’s on the soundtrack of the first Mamma Mia and she sings it to Bill thinking he’s her father. You can find the deleted clip on here.
that badness is nothing compared to her vibrato in les mis 😖
@@madisongaliardo5747 the only reason i cant watch the movie seriously is that VIBRATO
@@madisongaliardo5747 LMFAO 💀
like if u were trained contemporaneously
🤣🤣
what
please link if u have the video
just search you’re flat it should come up lol
YOURE FLAT
Okay, but have you heard Celine Dions memory
It's so gross
I HATE IT
She's really an amazing singer, soo talented. I'm not really a fan, but her voice is great. I just don't really like the way she sang it?
Oof that was something else I’ll tell you that
I totally agree. It's hard to listen to
Tried to make it sexy
I'm surprised Idina Menzel has not yet made an appearance on your list. There are plenty of iffy moments. The Tony's and the Oscars are just a few examples.
bluecherry456 I don’t think crap bag wants to get decimated by frozen fanatics
The songs she sings absolutely destroy her voice
Megan have you heard her sing in the new frozen trailer? You could hear the years of vocal strain in her voice. It makes me sad :
Her last few high notes singing let it go on New Year’s Eve 😬😬😬😂
I dunno about all of you but
the most recognizable role that she’s played (again, in my opinion) is Elfie in Wicked (the wicked witch of the west idk how to spell her name)
You’re right, there are a lot of iffy moments for her but there were quite a few in more recent performances of Wicked. I know that she has since left that show so when I say recent I mean maybe the last ten times she preformed it. So that means if you just look at the soundtrack you won’t see it
One of the biggest moments is the ending of Defying Gravity. It’s a really easy part to be flat on, and if you’re not flat then it takes a lot out of you.
She is a diva for sure but there’s a lot that comes with that and it’s saddening to see the toll it’s taken on her voice
i’m still awaiting for JDs flat note in the recording of freeze your brain because that one is AWFUL
karl Roberts I love the song but that makes me cry
karl Roberts Where’s the flat note? (Not saying I disagree, I just haven’t heard the song in a while and I want to listen to it now haha)
I think they mean the "don't open a vein" part
What part are you talking about? I don’t notice any flat notes...
@@lindsayw.8842 nope, just listened to that part. didnt notice any flatness
i want a threequel but its only idina menzel
BOLD
Leave the queen out of this
Listen to always starting over👌👌👌especially her Tony’s performance
TEA
you’re so brave
Don’t you dare come for Elaine Stritch, her choice to truly pick a random note is part of the charm
Elaine Stritch was a national treasure and her ability to "fit" any note she wanted into any given chord was a talent that she and she alone possessed
The C6 THE C6 literally had me cringing. So off and so loud
the amelie one is... appalling
Zach Piper I am D I s G u S t E d
to be honest I thought he was supposed to sound that bad
before I watched the video I scrolled through the comments and saw this and I JUMPED
(my name is amelie lmao)
yA fLAT
he is supposed to sound bad in that song btw
I had to do a double-take because I didn’t recognize Nicole Scherzinger’s voice.........
This list: a whole lot more valid than the previous one
bro theyre opinions, theyre all valid. that last video had some gross vocal nonsense in it
Dude, the elaine stritch one get's me every time to the point where I've given up and choose to listen for it
my school did hello dolly a few years ago and literally NO ONE could get that “loooove”
no need to brag. it’s a high note, you shouldn’t assume that everyone can hit it
sour cream i’m not bragging. i was having trouble with it too. it was just an observation that people in my particular production were struggling with it, me included.
cosmiq-空 if they edited it then it would’ve had edit by it
@@sourcream2316 how tf was that bragging. They said nobody can fucking hit it
3:37 She just murdered one of the best songs in musical history
I could feel that strain in my throat 😭
Gurl wasn’t prepared that day
Nameless Pharaoh oh my god same, I could feel my voice on the verge of a voice craxk
And she’s a classically trained soprano, so it’s not like she doesn’t know how bad it sounded. I can’t imagine how disappointed she must have been
Good song- hella horrible show, Bit that's just my opinion
By the looks of it, she’s really holding tension in her jaw which is going to farce to sound to resonate at the back of the throat rather than in her soft pallet. The fact you can physically see the tension being held is what’s causing her to sound “strained” whereas on the recording it sounds more open and you can here she’s resonating in her soft pallet which is healthier for singers. One of the main reasons for held jaw tension can be nerves but obviously no one knows exactly why she’s got so much tension. It’s not terrible but if she just thought about her placement whilst belting this could’ve been an amazing performance.
Yami Yugi OMG YES I AGREE
Thank you so much for mentioning Elaine's note! I've been bothered by it ever since I first heard it as a kid, idk how they even let that be a part of the album. Like you can even see her giving it her all during that part in the documentary, I just don't get it
OK SO LOOK
Here's my thing about that bit. I genuinely will overlook anything with Stritch but I'll ESPECIALLY give that a pass BECAUSE it's part of what has made her so iconic. She was bold and brassy and like an entire half-note flat right there and she clearly doesn't have the air for it and just gives out like 10 seconds in but she just DOESN'T GIVE A HECK and I think that's very Joanne of her! Not only did they "let it be a part of the album", they actually BOOSTED HER MIC for that because she was so outrageously audacious that they were kind of in awe of it.
Sorry, not meaning to sound angry at all. :P Just wanted to throw that small defense in!
@@AustinNebbia That actually makes sense in that context, it does seem like a choice Joanne would make. Objectively it doesn't sound "right" but I get why it works at least in the world of the show
I have not seen or heard BatBoy and I don’t know Kaitlyn Hopkins, so don’t call me biased but there was literally nothing wrong with her vocals she sounded great. Her voice is very old broadway
Jmo I have seen it and I completely agree
honestly I loved her voice, I'm definitely gonna look into the musical
I really really really dig her voice!!!
I agree. I think the only qualm OP has about it is that the sustained notes are in her mix and not chest, which is a relatively new trend in musical theater (to chest EVERYTHING and hardly if ever mix)
Her resonance/vowels/intonation were all good it was just mixed which I wish was appreciated more
Kaitlyn is the director of the texas state musical theater program and she is the sweetest human ever
kaitlyn hopkins was my theatre teacher jfdhgjkl I kinda liked a lot of her in BatBoy but I wish she hadn't been directed to sound like that
OMG
You went to Texas State?
@@woodboys23 Yeah!
@@quinintheclouds That's my dream program! When did/do you graduate?
@@woodboys23 I actually just moved to California before graduating lmao
Love u NPH but imagine having the guts to sing that song after Kurt Hummel already did the damn thing smh
Was thinking this exactly
If I'm hounst I dont think kurt is a very good singer at all
@@niamhrtditchfield2348 i don't either tbh, but his performance in being alive was phenomenal imo
raul esparza version >>
@@hannahbuckles12 only valid answer
The top soprano in that hello dolly clip sounded like she was in pain. It was also painful to my ears.
I cant believe you missed out the original recording of Les Miserables "a little fall of rain", it is painful to listen to
What about it is painful to listen to for you? Not saying if I agree or not, just curious
OOF
Im not a fan of the style. But it is a style and you either like it ir you dont.
The first time I played it my mother said she genuinely couldn’t tell if it was a 3 year old or 93 year old singing
I actually really liked it
You actually blessed us with another one of these????
Thank you. More!!!
5:41 YOU MEAN LITERALLY SO SHARP SHES LITERALLY SINGING A D, A WHOLE NOTE ABOVE. OMG I HATE IT JUST SS MUCH AS YOU DO HOW DID NO ONE RECOGNIZE THAT AND FIX IT
This is why Raul Esparza's Being Alive will forever and always be my favorite (:
i wonder if i’ll ever have a notification squad
@crap bag you got back at us good this time, good for you🙏👏😘😊
i'll be your one man notification squad 😘
I got you fam 👌
Nope.
Andrew Rannells thanks andrew rannells
I had the same problem with the My Fair Lady revival! So many times, I felt that the pronunciation was too perfect. The background singers of “Wouldn’t It Be Loverly” made it sound like a karaoke track.
Also making Henry Higgins younger kind of defeats one the big points of the musical
The phrase "this really scrapes the butter right off my eggroll" is horrendous and honestly I'm here for it
I disagreed with the other video, but this... I can’t fault you, honestly
People lifting their eyebrows to hit high notes/belts must not understand that their forehead tension is just creating vocal tension!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS SO FRUSTRATING
Theres a difference between raising your eyebrows and furrowing your eyebrows. Raising your eyebrows helps you stay on pitch furrowing can create tension
Corinne Elaine you’re supposed to raise your eyebrows in replace of stretching your neck, which does create tension
Raising your eyebrows lifts your soft palate which creates more space and makes it easier to send out sound so it actually helps
if you lift your eyebrows as high as possible, yes, but lifting them a bit more than their usual height won’t hurt your voice lol
Ben Platt wants to know your location
6:38 I COULDNT BREATHE
ELAINE STRITCH ELAINE STRITCH ELAINE STRITCH
Nicole’s rendition of memory makes my throat hurt
Finally, my singing voice gets some goddamn representation
finally knowing me knowing you gets its dues
I’m watching this again and the laughs are inching dangerously close into vomit territory. Elaine Stritch Elaine Stritch Elaine Stritch
I totally agreed with Nicole’s one, she is MAGNIFICENT but that performance was not it
1:36
I don’t think it was the right music for him.
I love this series please continue
omg the abba section. COMEDIC GENIUS
3:40 GURL who let her go out and sing THAT song in THAT key on THAT day xD
when people with accents sing, they don’t sound like they have an accent. the only time you can hear an accent in a song is because it’s forced. take ella mai for example. when she sings she doesn’t have an accent.
Lilly and Macy I was about to agree with this but that’s only true if you’re singing in your native language or a language that has the same or a similar accent associated with it
Not all the time
everyone has an accent
Ummm. Lewis Capaldi?
That brEak in the cats one hahah
I finally approve of a sequel better than the original
(This part two vid vs part one)
I think the issue with some of these arent the singers themselves but just how the music is written because theres no way anyone could make those notes sound good nin some of those songs
I’m surprised you didn’t mention anything about the performance of “one day more” at the Tonys in 2014 😬
Meghan Davidson we don’t talk abt her
les mis fell off and that performance didn’t help
Have you seen the Raul Esparza Company? I think its vocally one of the best productions
Kaitlyn Hopkins trying to be Patti Lupone for 2 hours straight.
I often feel like Patti goes flat tbh
Wait where is that “your flat I was classically trained” video from BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT AND I DONT KNOW WHY
That Raul Julia song sounded eerily similarly to the “Eeeeeaaaaaa” meme
They cast NPH because of his name, rather than his talent. I'd much rather watch/listen to an exceptional unknown than an average celebrity.
NPH can sound good but not there.
4:20 that song always manages to give me chills when done RIGHT
kurt hummel's being alive is so much better i said what i said
That Patti Lupone part was hysterical 😂
NPH used maybe 1/10th of the energy needed for “Being Alive”
i’m a stinky head my favorite song from Amelie is Three Figs
wow what’s that like
Crap Bag lonely
Girl I’m right there with you
Musical Liam it’s so so good i don’t understand. my favorite parts of the song are the ones pointed out in the video lmao
Caitlynn Bunn I like it because he plays the character so well. He’s supposed to he kinda dopey and his voice reflects it perfectly. Granted his character is much more played out in the movie than the musical.
Now that's more like it. I saw the previous video and the lack of reasoning in some of the parts was what threw me off. This felt a lot more human and a lot less like a schoolyard bully :)
I know this is months old, but it just got recommended to me. NPH admits in his biography that was his worst performance, iirc its been awhile since I read it, but he really wanted to do company and when asked to do it he jumped, but due to commitments didn't rehearse at all and showed up a day or two before the performance. What we see in the video is an editors best effort to splice 4 or 5 different performances together that wasn't a complete train wreck. So what we see if the best out of multiple attempts.
Not only was the first video completely accurate and true, you're fucking hilarious. I love you and this series pls never stop.
I'd actually argue that people speaking cockney would tend to drop the "r", it would be something like "lufley" or "lufeley" but the film version of the song isn't exactly sung a great cockney accent to begin with. Not a cockney speaker myself so if someone here is I'd love to know as this is something that has irked me for years 😂 Loved the video though, very entertaining!
same! i would think that if they were going for a cockney sound, it would be something more like luv-leh
I mean I am a massive fan of the mamma Mia movies, the soundtracks, and Jeremy Irvine (he’s great in a lot of his other stuff) but based on this, he cannot sing. His singing in the movie was real cringey. Maybe it’s just the sound editing, but no thanks.
patti lupone is like my parents at every theatre production ive done and im NPH
NicoleShortSkirtSinger! I'm dead. This whole video made me LOL and disturb my neighbors. I teach musical theatre and dubbed Laura Benanti BORE-Nanti. The role just seemed so ill-fitting and all those "posh" vowels and vocal posturing. You are a wise person in your assessments and a witty commentator as well
the "you're flat"'s surprisingly went well with the song?? 😂
Okay but with being alive the vowels are super hard to work with and the notes in the key it’s set in is in a spot where it’s super fucking weird to sing in. Try belting alive.. it sounds like a cat is dying (no disrespect to Sondheim, I love his work but the vowel i is just so ugly)
i totally disagree, being alive is one of the most pleasant songs a tenor can sing
I cant believe you managed to make this with Donna and LBenanti and i somehow dont hate you
Ikr? But it thought it was more a dig at the background singers in Laura's case because her "loverly" sounded fine to me
Okay but why did Patty from diary of a wimpy kid kill it 10x harder on Memory..........
the thing many people need to realize is these performers are singing ALL THE TIME because it’s their career and their voices aren’t always perfect because they’re using it so much
"Sorry, I have to laugh."
"She's got a point. She's a legend, she's an icon, and she is the moment"
Elaine Stritch in Company is just so deliciously bad lol I laugh every time I hear it. Especially knowing how hard she was trying to get the note right. That ain’t it, chief!
i honestly choked at the elaine stritch part omg
The moment I saw the company recording came on screen at 6:39 my mind immediately started screaming “ELAINE STRITCH”
I felt that with the “loverly” that actually made me cringe so hard
GEMMA AND TIFFANY I CANT
Finally
The sequel I have been waiting for
Has finally come
i'm ready to get hurt again
YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIREEEEEE AAAA
i thought i was crazy when i heard pitch problems in musical recordings
Can we talk about people who have pretty voices but who have zero control of their vibrato and it’s at that point a run between like 2.2 notes
This whole video was "what the hell was even that" in a nutshell.
Move over endgame, this is the best part 2 we have always wanted.👏🙏
you can say idina menzel sucks for all i care but don’t you lay a finger on nph (ur right tho no hate i love you haha)
5:42 it's more than just sharp, because it is C sharp, a different note completely and kinda turns the chord into something else
If we’re not gonna talk about idina menzel at the tonys performing for “If/Then”...imma raise an eyebrow
please everyone LEAVE ELAINE STRITCH ALONE THE WOMAN IS NOT ONLY DEAD, BUT ONE OF THE BEST ACTRESSES IF NOT THE BEST ACTRESS OF HER AGE LET HER BE
Kaitlyn Hopkins is a wonderful lady and an amazing professor at Texas State, just want to put that out there.
I liked Nicole scherzingers rendition. Low key. Much more than well. Jhuds. But you didn’t hear that from me
Is Jennifer's full version even out?
Tamanna Das you can hear it in the trailer in the background. It’s very raspy in my opinion. And just not that amazing.
Me and my mom saw dear Evan Hansen this past summer and it was AMAZING, but Evan couldn’t get the top note on waving through a window without transitioning to like a falsetto-ish voice, which took a hot second, but it was still the best production I’ve ever seen
I know I know they’re all doing their best we should be nice but HAHAHAHAHAHHA
I have never heard a rendition of "Being Alive" that I have enjoyed.
3:28 iconic
The Uh-huh in Mamma Mia 2 is freaking hilarious
i’ve been annoyed by that Hello Dolly soprano for YEARS